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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with

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Speaker 2: your two special guests for you tonight. The first is

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Speaker 2: Margie K. Violent Wisdom, her author co partner will join

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Speaker 2: us at the half this hour. Then both of them

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Speaker 2: join us for phone calls with you next hour. Margie

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Speaker 2: is a licensed private investigator in Missouri. She's a veteran

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Speaker 2: paranormal investigator, writer, and filmmaker. Margie is a remote viewer

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Speaker 2: has helped solve more than seventy missing person, theft and

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Speaker 2: homicide cases for law enforcement and private investigators worldwide. She's

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Speaker 2: the co author of the Vocata research A Haunted House. Margie,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, George. I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 2: It is a great time. And when did this all

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Speaker 2: happen for you? When did you get involved in this

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Speaker 2: kind of research?

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Speaker 3: Well, it started when I was a child and I

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Speaker 3: was having paranormal experiences and I wanted to know what

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Speaker 3: was going on. So I was off to the library

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Speaker 3: and studying because that's what we did back then. There

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Speaker 3: was no internet, and so right around the age of eleven,

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Speaker 3: I saw my first disembodied head at hanging at the

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Speaker 3: foot of my bed, and that got my attention.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved with law enforcement?

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually got involved with that because I had

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Speaker 3: a group of attorneys who used to see me for

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Speaker 3: private readings doing psychic work, and one of them had

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Speaker 3: a niece who disappeared and she called me one evening.

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Speaker 3: I'd never really done anything like that, and she said,

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Speaker 3: my niece is gone. She didn't come home from the

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Speaker 3: bus stop, and I need help. So I remote viewed

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Speaker 3: and I discovered a new way of doing it by

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Speaker 3: sending my eteric body out through my solar plexus, and

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Speaker 3: I just followed this line. I found the girl. She'd

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Speaker 3: been kidnapped. She was in a shed, and I directed

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Speaker 3: them to that location. They found her alive. She was

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Speaker 3: actually being sold in the morning for the sum of

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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars and they were able to save her.

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Speaker 2: Good for you, Good for you. We're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking a lot about that today. And how did you

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Speaker 2: team up with Violet to write the book How to

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Speaker 2: Research a Haunted House.

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Speaker 3: Well, Violet and I have been colleagues for several years.

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Speaker 3: She works for me, She works at the NX Network.

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Speaker 3: And she's also a professional researcher who's written fifty books

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Speaker 3: about houses, historic homes. And one day I just had

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Speaker 3: this idea about how to research your haunted house, and

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, what better house would be the

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Speaker 3: subject for this book, And that was my home when

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Speaker 3: I was a teenager in Springfield, Missouri. It was it's

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Speaker 3: probably still today the most haunted house I've ever investigated

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Speaker 3: or lived in. And so that is the subject of

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Speaker 3: the book.

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Speaker 2: Tragically, Margie, it was a plane headed to the Springfield

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Speaker 2: Branson Airport today and yes, you went down unbelievable in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: It is unbelievable. It's a terrible tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Now these cases, in most states, don't you have to

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Speaker 2: disclose if the house is haunted before you sell it?

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Speaker 3: Actually you don't. Violet looked that up and she found

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Speaker 3: there's only a couple of states where you have to disclose.

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Speaker 3: So and Missouri my home state, and yours. I believe

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Speaker 3: at one time you do not so and and in fact,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to tell anyone that someone was murdered

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Speaker 3: in your house. If it's more than like three years.

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Speaker 3: You have to ask Violet about that.

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Speaker 2: To be sure, unless you've got a great deal, would

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Speaker 2: you buy a house where somebody was killed?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I've I've pretty much

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Speaker 3: had my fill of hauntings right now, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Now. How do you determine if a house is haunted?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's my part. The first thing I do

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Speaker 3: is I remote view the site before I go there.

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Speaker 3: So if somebody wants help with a home that they're

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Speaker 3: having a lot of problems with, I will remote you

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Speaker 3: first to see what I'm getting into, and you know,

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Speaker 3: if there's more than one entity, if it is a

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Speaker 3: human or non human, and then I'll make a decision

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Speaker 3: if I want to go approach that or not. And

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Speaker 3: one of the nice things about doing that, which is

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Speaker 3: also a little bit scary at times, the entities or

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Speaker 3: the spirits seem to know that I'm coming, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of times they will leave before we even arrive

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Speaker 3: at the house in person, so you know. And then

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Speaker 3: some of them, though, are kind of stubborn, Some of

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Speaker 3: them just need to be nudged a little bit untild

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Speaker 3: that they've passed on because they may not know that

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Speaker 3: they've passed on. It could be all manner of things

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, Marjorie, how do they

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Speaker 2: How do we know what the spirits want?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they always want something. So it's a good idea

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Speaker 3: to have a psychic on your team if you are

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Speaker 3: a paranormal investigation team, because they might be able to

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Speaker 3: figure that out and communicate with the dead to find

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Speaker 3: out why they're there. But there are some clues for

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Speaker 3: a team that does not have a psychic or someone

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Speaker 3: who owns the house and they want to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I look for is where

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Speaker 3: is that spirit hanging out? Is it the same location,

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Speaker 3: Is it a bedroom that might have been their favorite?

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Speaker 3: Is it the kitchen? A lot of times people will

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Speaker 3: see a parcel or a full bodied apparition, and if

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Speaker 3: it's a woman and she's wearing an apron and she's

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen all the time, that's a clue that

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Speaker 3: that is a former occupant. And there's some other things

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Speaker 3: that you can look for, like children's toys being played

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Speaker 3: with might be a child ghost, you know, just things

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Speaker 3: like that that you want to, you know, make note

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Speaker 3: of cigar smoke, cigarette smoke things like that. Those are

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Speaker 3: pretty typical hints that it's a person who actually used

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Speaker 3: to live in the house. And in fact, I would

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Speaker 3: say ninety eighty to ninety percent of the houses that

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Speaker 3: are haunted are by people who lived in the house originally,

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Speaker 3: and most of those cases they are the ones who

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Speaker 3: built the house, so they're very attached to it. People

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Speaker 3: become very very attached to homes, and especially you notice

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Speaker 3: with older people. My grandmother, for instance, did not want

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Speaker 3: to leave her house, and so I moved in with her.

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Speaker 3: This is some time ago, but I moved in with

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Speaker 3: her so that she wouldn't have to leave her home

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Speaker 3: and they then three days after she passed, we saw

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Speaker 3: her in the kitchen in her favorite spot, doing the

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Speaker 3: New York Times crossword puzzle on the table where she

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Speaker 3: used to do that.

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Speaker 2: What are the percents, Margie? Have people who live in

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Speaker 2: the house and they summon you up and they just

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Speaker 2: want help, as opposed to people who are trying to

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Speaker 2: sell their house and they think it's haunted.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say the percentage wise, probably eighty percent

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Speaker 3: are people who are already in a home and they

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Speaker 3: want to stay there. They just want to get rid

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Speaker 3: of the pesky spirits?

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Speaker 2: Are they scared?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they are. Sometimes we get this spirit that's really

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Speaker 3: negative or evil, and there's very serious about wanting people

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Speaker 3: to get out of their house, and they will start

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Speaker 3: acting up. They're do a polar guysed activity, throwing things,

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Speaker 3: turning lights off and on, and that's a much more

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Speaker 3: difficult situation. I just did a case where the whole

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Speaker 3: family was so frightened that they ran screaming out of

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Speaker 3: the home at three o'clock in the morning and left

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Speaker 2: Wow's what tell me this. If the individual before he

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Speaker 2: or she died was benevolent, was nice, and then they die,

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Speaker 2: what kind of a spirit do they become? Are they

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Speaker 2: still nice or they evil? Nice?

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Speaker 3: They keep the same personality. So that's another thing that

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Speaker 3: a person can do, as far as Reacher Research is concerned,

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Speaker 3: is ask the neighbors, ask people who may know something

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Speaker 3: about the previous owners, and check you see what kind

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Speaker 3: of a person they were, because they're going to be

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Speaker 3: the same when they cross over. I mean, every time

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Speaker 3: I've looked at this or contacted spirits, that is the case.

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Speaker 2: What has been some of the most difficult cases you've encountered.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, well, the house that we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about tonight, that's the subject of the book, The Springfield House.

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Speaker 3: That one is, Oh gosh, so many things going on

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Speaker 3: there that even as a fourteen and fifteen year old,

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Speaker 3: I had done so much research to find out why

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Speaker 3: it was haunted and how to get rid of the spirits.

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Speaker 3: That at that time, of course I wasn't very experienced,

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Speaker 3: and we had things happening, of course, doors slamming, water

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Speaker 3: coming on by itself in the upstairs bathroom, in the

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Speaker 3: tub and the sink. They were both very, very old.

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Speaker 3: The house was built believe in the late eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 3: and you know, original fixtures and everything. And my mother

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Speaker 3: was actually blamed my brother, my poor little brother, for

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Speaker 3: turning the water on all the time and flooding things.

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Speaker 3: And finally one day she was walking by the bathroom

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Speaker 3: when all of us were at school, and she watched

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Speaker 3: the knob turn on the sink turn and full blast,

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Speaker 3: just blasting water everywhere. Things like that, and had something

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Speaker 3: stomping up and down the stairs. So there were multiple

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Speaker 3: spirits in there.

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