WEBVTT - Harold Varner III 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.200 Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:16.959 to it. Good do, good do. They's getting down to 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.720 do it, good do it. We asked the questions you 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.200 always want to know, but no one ever asked. Let's 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.840 cut to it. You ain't heard them about it? Then 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:40.479 we're about to let you know. It's all. I love 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.839 that movie, the second one. I like the second one 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.239 better than the first one. I just do. I know, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:46.800 I can't really tell you why. I don't like the 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.520 one with Wesley Snips. I like the one with What's 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.920 what's his name? Oh yeah, I didn't like. Yeah. Hey, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.400 we're back in the studio. Cut to its. Steve Man, 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.840 how's it going, Bro's going good? You know, it's going 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.840 real good. I'm I'm excited um for the day because 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.440 we got a really cool guest. But then also, you know, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.280 just how the stars A line man was out playing 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.319 golf the other day, right, So we're playing golf, and 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.800 I'm I'm pretty I wouldn't go on the tour and 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.720 say I'm a pretty good golfer because I'm not. Um 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.640 but I can if I hit the bar, if I 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.120 get moving, yeah, if I if I get if I 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.959 get my coat, if I get my driver on it 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:38.080 and go, I can hit about two range. I just 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.479 smack it, but I gotta slice. I'm trying to get 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.360 rid of so bang. I hit that thing about it 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:50.440 goes about to fifty. Of course I'm playing that. The 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.160 eighteen and nine is real narrow. So they're they're playing 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.560 right next to each other. Boom, So I veer right. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.880 I gotta slice veers right. So I'm probably a huney 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.240 yards from the green. I'm just on the other hole. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.600 I'm on the ninth hole. I'll tell you when that happens. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.840 So I got a honey yards to the green, ninth 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.840 on the ninth hole, on the right next to him. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:17.519 So I played with um. I don't like playing with 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.120 the standard white ball because I struggle tom to find 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.120 it this early morning. I don't care if his afternoon. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.240 I'm on the struggle bus. So I played. I played 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.880 with a lot of different color balls, and so I 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.120 played with a red one, which is red as my 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.600 favorite color. So I'm playing it. Hit it so it's 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.040 on the other one and playing with my boy Joe, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.800 and so I'm like, Joe said, I got you all right, 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.280 So I'm going over park. I'm going over, and there 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.760 as a gentleman on the ninth hole as well, but 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.880 I'm on eight team, so I'm interfairing to his game. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.080 So I take my time and I make sure I 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.200 can go after he hits. I'm looking for this red 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.239 ball on this green, green fairway so it's not hard 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.720 to miss, and I'm like, where's my ball? So I 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.919 go over and then this guy's looking at me very 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.240 in my mind, I'm going, damn, he's gonna want to 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:18.120 go do this whole like yeah. So I've had guys 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.440 approached me. Hey man, you sign my golf ball whatever, right, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.280 So I'm going on there and I'm like oh and 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.320 he so he as he's going, he goes, hey, did 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:38.600 you hit a red ball? Yeah? Did you hit the 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.800 red ball? Oh? No? No, So I'm like, okay. He 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.200 was like, oh, is this your ball? Yeah? So he 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.480 found it. No, he didn't find my ball. This song 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.160 Ago takes my ball. Oh he stole it. He stolen 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.840 He picked my ball up. He said, red ball. He 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.480 looked up said no. He said, Lord, thank you for 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.080 this red callaway ball. You're giving me that I have 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.680 not hit that that I did not purchase, but I'll 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:08.160 take it right, takes the ball, puts it in his bag. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.720 So when I approach him, I said, yeah, bro, you 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.760 got my ball. He is now looking at me as 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.200 if I'm going to beat him up, and I'm still 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.600 probably about thirty yards away from So we're like having 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.320 this loud talking this in conversation. He put his ball 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.039 in his bag and he's staring at me pulling my 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.400 ball out of his bag. So he's caught. He's caught 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.719 still in my ball, red handed with the red ball. Yes, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.520 and so he goes, hey, did you hit the red ball? 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.760 So my reply to it, what did you did you 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.960 not play with the red ball? Well, here's what makes 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:50.120 it even classier. Day and't half later, take my boys 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.400 to play golf. They want to hit the driving range. Dad, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.920 you played without this the other day. Can you all right? 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.600 Let's go pull up? So I got deuced six years old, 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.680 I got Boston years old. Pull up, We part. I 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.039 get out of my car. Guess who is putting his 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:13.200 bag into his trump red ball thief? Yes, he looks 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:22.080 at me, singers sticky fingers and I just giggle. He goes, hey, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.120 how you doing? I said, take any balls like me? 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.599 He looked at me, got in his car and Doocey goes, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.160 is that the guy who took your balls? I said, yep, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:40.599 that is him. He goes, he better drive off. Soho, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.320 who's our guest? We've got Harold Varner. He's a p 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.560 G A tour member since two thousand and sixteen. He's 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.760 a native of Gaston in North Carolina. He went to 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.200 college at East Carolina University and he's a member of 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:59.719 Brand Jordan's Are you about to take a partner? Get 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.240 ice up segments? So there are random questions. Of course, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.000 you have no idea what's coming up? Not one may 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.480 or may not be follow ups, right, and so Smithie 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:09.920 go ahead and give him the first one. All right, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.000 So let's start one off with an easy one. Um, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:18.080 longest flight you've ever taken? Fourteen hours through Australia. How 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.680 was it? I slept for twelve hours, slept through all 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:25.719 my food, everything? Okay, coach business, first class. I don't 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.560 know what I was on. What is one item you 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:37.480 refuse to share? Oh? My putter? I don't like anyone 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.839 touching my gamer putter. That's my thing, Like, because I 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:47.520 think people put bad omens and stuff. Let me superstitious. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.360 I'm not superstitious. I just if it's the one I'm 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:55.000 putting with. Like, let me how many putters do you have? Probably? Like, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.520 but everyone comes and takes them, but they don't mess 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.680 with them one playing with I'm pretty about Okay, we'll 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.120 talk about that later. Now, So here's a good one. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.880 Now you ready listening. I'm loud and cleary. Would you 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:17.440 rather be a hobbit or an elf for two hours? Why? 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.240 Because of the movie Elfie. I would love to run 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.400 around the mall and be a freaking elf, especially a 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:29.520 black health what's going on? That's a great answer. I 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.960 like that, all right? What is what was in your 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.320 high school locker? I don't know. I didn't my senior year. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.280 I didn't go to it. I'm about the year before. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.080 I mean you were in I forgot my uh my key, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.040 my little code combination. Yeah, so they can't and cut 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.960 it off and I didn't get it on hold from 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:57.200 any homework things. No, No, lockers in high school don't 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:02.760 have chained locks like their generally attached to the locker war. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.280 So it's not a locker you're talking about. Well, I 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.480 know you went to school in Gastonia, so that changes. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.640 You had to buy a five dollar lock and you 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.880 had to code to it and you had to buy 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:19.200 from Yeah, generally there are it's like combination, the little 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:23.680 handle to lift it up. Yeah, no, I had like 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.400 a no, but they had to use the cutters get 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.680 them off. I just forgot my combination. I just I 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.280 didn't I leave my books in my car. I didn't. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.720 School wasn't my thing. We'll just say because the easy 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.480 answer you donna say easy to you. I hear it coming. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.439 He didn't had nothing books. I made it though, you did? 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:48.000 You passed with a sixty two. Hey, I got that pass. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:53.800 That's all. Yeah, alright, so hey, appreciate you coming on 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.720 to the show. Um, let's let's let's just get into 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.000 it and really, you know, just tell us who Harold 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.280 Larnery is. You know, what's your what was your upbringing? Like? Yeah? 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.080 So I um, I was born in Akron, Ohio. I 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:11.880 lived there for six years, moved to gaston in North Carolina, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.080 and I just grew up there and then went to 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.000 East Carolina. Obviously I had had an awesome upbringing. I 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.920 had too awesome parents. Um I grew up playing at 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.280 a local municipal course that it's still around. I think 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.920 a couple of my friends are going to go play 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.720 there today. So it's uh, just super well rounded, you know, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.040 just playing I couldn't play any other sports. I wasn't 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.280 tall enough, it wasn't big enough. So golf became, you know, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.080 a place for me where I just I could get 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.520 better and I knew I could play in college, so 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.120 it was just kind of a no brainer in that aspect. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.640 And then I just obviously when you get to college 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.880 and you start getting better, you're like, you're looking at 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.000 the big picture. I want to play against the best 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:56.000 in the world as many times as I can. So yeah, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.640 that's just a fast version. Um. I had a guy 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.120 named Bruce Sutter gave me lessons when I turned sixteen, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.960 so that was my first real lesson. Um So he 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.080 taught me, taught me how to be a professional at 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.920 a early age, but also taught me how to swing 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.000 the golf club. How do how does Harold operate when 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.559 it comes to hitting the golf ball? Um So he's 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.199 a great mentor to me. And then when I went 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.920 to school. I had a coach named prest Fall who's 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:26.760 now at NC State. Um, just awesome, guy. Let's go 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.400 back though, you're talking about sixteen. You know, when you're 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:35.160 sixteen years old, you see all that stuff. But you 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.199 you were introduced to golf. Yeah what age? Because you're 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:45.280 twenty nine years old. So born in n Gastonia is 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.679 roughly about twenty three twenty three minutes, so roughly I 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.280 think it's about twenty something miles from the city of Charlotte. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.240 Was Charlotte. A lot of people think Charlotte is the 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.880 capital of North Carolina, but Raleigh is, which is about 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.360 two and a half three hours to and on how 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.880 fast you're driving all that stuff. Charlotte is not a 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.960 booming city in nineteen ninety. They don't even have a 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.280 professional football team. They don't have a professional baseball team. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.240 It had to be pretty much a unique situation to 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.439 see a young black man walking on a public golf 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:22.040 course hungry to learn how to play golf. Yeah, for sure. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.760 So my dad when we lived in Ohio, he um, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.160 he got me the Fisher Price clubs is like a blue, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.320 little plastic two thing and had the yellow clubs that 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.400 went in and so start off of that when I 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.680 was two, and then when I turned five, I got 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.040 one real golf club. It was a six iron. It 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.520 was cut down. Um, super cool, you know. I just 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.800 I guess I don't really remember it, but I've seen 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.080 pictures of just like always had a golf club, always 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.560 just hitting in my grandparents yard they had They lived 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.800 on about sixteen acres, so, um, I was always hitting 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.800 balls over the garden, messing around. And then when we 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:01.200 moved to Gastonia, Um, they had this local golf course 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.160 called Guests Room and this one. And then my dad 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.719 always played golf, so like I would either hang out 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.280 with my dad go play with him after he played 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.840 with his friends called the Parbusters who are in Charlotte, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.319 but they play, they play all around. Um, so that's 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.400 how I really, you know, my dad just just tag 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:22.280 along with my dad. So when I turned seven, they 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.840 had this, Uh, I mean it was the coolest thing. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.079 This is how this is why all sports need to 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.720 go towards is from June one until September one, Monday 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.560 through Friday, for a hundred bucks, I could go to 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.840 Guests Room and this one whenever as long as we 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.080 were walking. Yeah, and they had a grill in there. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.760 So these old men that my dad played with would 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.760 like leave me lunch money, or like my dad would 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.760 give me lunch money, you know. So I just hung 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.720 out of the golf course the whole time. And then 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.040 when I turned turned nine, I played my first tournament 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.920 they had, you know, I just played in a a group 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.480 and I was like, yeah, you know whatever. So I 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.160 got a full set of clubs, and so I got 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.240 addicted to it without like my parents pushing me, you know. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.640 It was just like and there were other kids out there, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.920 so you had a place where you could always like, oh, man, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:08.840 I know him from there, you know. And then you 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.839 grow up though, because like some of the kids go 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.280 on vacation and stuff, and I would like just go 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.599 play golf, and these old men would I'd be on 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.120 the punt green, but you want to play. I'm like, yeah, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.880 hell yeah, I want to play. You know, let's go. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.400 So they would let me tag along, and so I 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.800 just I was very spoiled and didn't even know it. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.680 Like any time that a man, grown man will take 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.920 a kid for that long, for four hours, you're gonna 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.880 learn something, You're gonna pick up something. And I didn't 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.400 even know I was receiving that information, you know. So 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.840 it's uh, I was super fortunate. Golf's not that accessible 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.560 right now. I don't think any sport is, to be 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:49.880 honest with you, UM, So that's that's sort of the 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.880 difference I think is accessibility and anything in life. If 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.640 you want to do something, you need to be around 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.040 the person that's either doing that or be able to 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.040 go do it on your own time. And right now 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.760 we don't. I mean, especially during COVID, we don't have 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.680 We don't have that. That's really cool. Yeah, So I 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.360 mean we're struggling with that. Since you bring up the 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.360 race thing, I think we're struggling with that just having 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.960 parents in their lives, you know, or just someone in 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.800 their lives that cares, you know. Um. The most recent 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.920 thing I've seen is, um, I'm guessing everyone's seen The 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:30.160 Last Dance, you know. Yeah, unbelievable. The coolest part for 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.520 me wasn't I think it was episode eight where Gusts 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.040 comes in there. You know, his dad had died, he's 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.680 won five times, and m J is still looking for 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.480 a mental still looking for someone to be in their lives. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.400 So I just kinda That's what stuck out to me 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.920 is that if I was if I won five times, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.000 I would be that male fi, I'd be the male figure, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.240 I'd be the guy. But no, he's still searching, still 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.680 wanting to be better, and still wanting to learn something 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.800 from someone who's been through the you know, been through it, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.720 And uh, I think that's so cool. Like I still 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.280 ask my dad questions. You know, there's there's that, there's 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.520 that with m J. There was that whole but I 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.680 won't even go back. You mentioned the Parbusters. Tell us 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.280 a little bit more about that. I mean you not 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.280 only did you have your dad, but you got this 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.000 group of men and what were they African American as well, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.760 So you got this group with the they probably probably 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.600 having them little nickel bets, a little dollar bets, brainies, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.000 all that stuff. What memories do you have of those, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.880 not even just from a golf perspective, but what are 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.440 some of the things maybe some of those intangibles or 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.520 some of those things they they instilled in you. Um, 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.320 once again, they gave me play. They would go play, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.960 so like obviously I get a little bit older, I 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.160 get a little bit better. They would carry me to 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.000 wherever they were playing, so I I'd play for the Carbusters, 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.320 you know, like in these team events, and I would 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.640 be on their team and we play, and you know, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.600 they would they would get all lit up. And when 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.600 I got old enough, when I got my permit, I 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.240 drive him back home, you know, like where they've be 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.200 in Greenville, South Carolina. You know, they drive me down. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.840 They'd be so early, i'd be sleep but on the 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.000 way back, I would drive back, you know. And I 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.200 didn't really think about it. But ten years later, I'm 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.360 playing the Mini Tours. I'm driving ten hours to play 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.560 a Monday qualifier or something. It was nothing. It was like, dude, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.240 I've done this, like you got You got taught by 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.480 the old school folks. So with teaching you, yeah, you 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.400 want to play this game, but you got to grind 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:25.040 it through. You know, write day, I want the championship, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.160 but not this stuff, the little stuff. But to play 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.840 in the regular season, no rest me. They don't want 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.320 to play. And they were teaching you to get to 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.080 the playoffs and to get to the championship, to get 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.440 the winning parade. You gotta grind it through the regular season. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.240 You gotta play the good teams and the easy teams, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.320 but they're preparing you for that getting up early. Right. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:53.440 It was awesome, right, yeah, it was. So they're still rounds. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.560 They still the guys that that took that I hung 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.920 out with. They're real old out so it kind of 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.760 it's unfortunate sometimes when I like see them because they're 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.600 like they're playing from so far up, you know, they're 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.880 getting old. Like I mean, I know I'm getting old too, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.880 but like it's weird when like they used to play 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.640 the same teas as me. You know, it's like now 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.760 it's like we're gonna play two teas up. You know, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.320 the same thing with my dad, you know, he's like 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.560 moving up tea boxes. So it's just, uh it's good. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.399 So I don't get to play with them much. But 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.560 something I do every uh every year around Christmas, I 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.159 take all my pro friends are like really good friends 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.639 that play really good golf, and I get the Parbusters 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.159 and one of my friends will play with the Parbusters 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.359 and we do it every year and then we have 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.000 like a little cook out at my parents house afterwards. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:41.520 It's just super appreciative of them. But like they the 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.520 best part that like I see like real good athletes, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.560 like real sports like basketball and football. They don't want 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.280 anything in return, you know, they never hey can you 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.560 do this? Can you no? Like perfect example, when I 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.560 come back for the Wells Farga, I don't. They don't 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.879 ever ask for tickets. They're coming you and uh. I 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.800 just hope that every kid has that opportunity to have 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.119 someone that genuinely cares about their well being, you know. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.920 Um So, yeah, you were talking about my upbringing that 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.119 I was When I mean spoiled, I mean it in 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.680 a way that I was full because they always gave 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.840 me an opportunity act just to be able to do 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.720 what I wanted to play golf, Oh you want to 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.960 play down here? Just roll with us, you know whatever 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.280 that might be. Um So, yeah, the Powerbusters are still 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.679 around and and the coolest thing is like if you 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.879 were playing and some white guy wanted to play with us, no, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.880 come on, like everyone was welcome. You know. It's like 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.400 that's just how I was brought. I used to hate 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.840 it as a kid when my dad did it, but 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.000 we'd go play and I just wanted to fly around 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.480 there and he if if there were two people on 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.600 the pudding green, my dad would inviute him every time 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.200 he still does it to this day. And I when 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.360 I he first started doing as a kid, I was like, damn, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.560 let's just play man, come on, and he's like no, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.159 So I'd meet the people and I still you know 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.520 one guy that I met at the city, he's on 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.400 we called the city or the Muni, but it's called 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.760 the Top of Creek now, but we are. He's now 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.879 on my board and my foundation. Yeah, and he's just 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.440 a really good, really good friend. So it's, uh, it's 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.800 crazy how it comes full circle when you get older. Yeah, 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.880 That's that's that's really who I am. That's like, I've 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.280 been around older people a lot of my life and 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.119 I just either ask questions or they put me in 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.360 position to learn my own lesson. 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A brother, cut to a 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:23.879 podcast dot com. Let's talk ball, the ball that you play, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:30.280 the sports as you play. My first question, Bro, I now, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.040 I see I was watching and I see all these 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:37.760 guys with this big old black book in their back 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.920 pocket and I and I believe that's the score card. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.040 And I play golf. I'm not very good, you know, 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:49.520 But how did God do guys ever cheat on that 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.280 score card? Because when nobody I mean, I know you're 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.920 on camera, but they cut off to your lot? Right Man? 0:20:56.000 --> 0:21:00.560 Do people really cheat? And I'm not saying don't want to. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:05.240 I don't tell them anybody, But I'm just talking about 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.960 when I played golf with some of my folks right 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.560 at all there's some gray areas. It's just no, that 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.880 was a five, Bro, I counted seven. I drove there 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.560 was a five. I think growing up there there was 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.760 things like that. I think, like in the high school 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:27.080 golf for people they just want to play so good, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.760 they wanted they're trying to get college scholarships. You know, 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.560 it's just this number real quick. I just I'm gonna 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.440 go ahead and tell you though, I never really pay 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.040 attention to anyone else, So you're not looking at anybody 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.080 else and keeping score on score card. No, that's what. 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:48.080 But some people correct, I think that. I think your 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.760 job if you're playing with someone is to protect the field. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.920 I protect myself. I'm focused on my never protected to field. 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.680 On the PGA tour, I'm gonna go with a hard no. Okay, yeah, 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.119 but like growing up, whatever it took, type things like 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:12.840 your sheet. No, no, you know correct, you're gonna be 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:18.960 coming back. Are there any unwritten rules that you have broken? Yeah, 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:24.240 before I turned pro um, I'm name dropping. Only cares 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:30.480 for the US Open in Rockville, Maryland. And behind every 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.840 hole there's a three ft Like say, I'm putting this 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.280 way towards you, but three ft behind the hole, you're 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.960 not supposed to walk behind it. You're not supposed to 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.359 walk in the line. No. No, Like if I'm putting 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.520