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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: day Impure normal podcast network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The

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Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty five years, I've been on

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Speaker 1: a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 1: On each episode will discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 1: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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Speaker 1: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Often when

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Speaker 1: we hear stories of near death experiences, we meet someone

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Speaker 1: who is an author and it's really out there sharing

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Speaker 1: their message. Well, it's not so with our guest today.

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Speaker 1: Josh Lucian is the owner of Elegant Flooring in Roanoke, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: He found me on Facebook and just felt this gentle

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Speaker 1: nudge at his system that it was time to share

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Speaker 1: his story. Now, when we talk to Josh, you'll notice

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Speaker 1: that he seems very wise for a young man, and

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Speaker 1: he's also got some really interesting things to say about

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Speaker 1: So welcome, Josh, Welcome. I'm so happy to be here,

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Speaker 1: and I love your work and love everything you do,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to thank you for the message

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Speaker 1: share and it's opportunity to be here. Oh, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. You know, each episode really enlivens me and

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Speaker 1: I can talk about what I'm passionate about, and it

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Speaker 1: also helps me remember the big picture, because it's very

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Speaker 1: easy for us to forget the bigger picture anyways. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to be here, and I'm happy you

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Speaker 1: were here. So, Josh, you were telling me before that

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Speaker 1: you got some nudges from the universe, and if you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't mind, just tell us a little bit about you

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Speaker 1: and what you do. Yeah, I've run a construction company.

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Speaker 1: We focus on bathroom or models and kitchens. Um We've

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Speaker 1: been doing it for nine years now. The work is

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Speaker 1: literally a reward was in itself the nudge you were

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Speaker 1: talking about. This particular job I have allows me to

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Speaker 1: I get to have very close conversations with many people,

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Speaker 1: and that sometimes they share their beliefs with me and

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Speaker 1: things like that, and we we try to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: And it's one particular woman. Um. She was an elderly woman.

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Speaker 1: She lost her husband about six years ago, and she

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Speaker 1: focusing on what's gone. You're not focusing on what you

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Speaker 1: and all the love that you've shared is very much

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Speaker 1: looking for answers for this, and I've been reading a

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Speaker 1: book called Proof of Heaven, We Don't Die by Evan Alexander,

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Speaker 1: I've never read this book before. And she pulled it out,

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Speaker 1: though you've lost something, the loss is just looking at

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Speaker 1: see the new coming in that replaces exactly what we've lost.

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Speaker 1: It may not be exactly what you've lost, but you

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Speaker 1: still have the love. Everything is still there. It's just

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Speaker 1: I was six years old and we were me and

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Speaker 1: this thing that was calling for me with this beautiful,

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to describe. It's almost like your awareness

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Speaker 1: my mother's color changed. It was almost like I was

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Speaker 1: looking at her and there was a bubble around her,

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Speaker 1: a bubble around me, and a bubble around the doctor.

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Speaker 1: And these bubbles were flashing very fast. And as she

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Speaker 1: was interacting with him, I didn't hear, but by the

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Speaker 1: sounds of them communicating open their mouths, the bubbles merged

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Speaker 1: in and intertwined with one another and changed the color

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Speaker 1: of what she was. And I felt what she felt,

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Speaker 1: and it was horrible news. The doctor had told her

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Speaker 1: that your son is more than likely never going to

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Speaker 1: recover to live a normal life. This is very hard

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Speaker 1: because the memory itself brings up the pain of what

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Speaker 1: I felt. Then, as the doctor told us to her.

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Speaker 1: My mother collapsed in his arms and she said no, no,

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Speaker 1: She was in denial, and the doctor continued to tell

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Speaker 1: her that it may be all right. I've seen children recover,

449
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Speaker 1: but I've never seen anything like this without some injury

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Speaker 1: of some sort. I just wanted to prepare you for this,

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Speaker 1: the reality of may what happened. And a tear even

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Speaker 1: went down the doctor's eye because he had just told

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Speaker 1: the mother that her son was more than likely going

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Speaker 1: to be a vegetable, maybe never walked, brain dead, whatever

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Speaker 1: the case is, and that consumes her soul. And I

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Speaker 1: still fill the pain upon the memory of recalling this,

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Speaker 1: and it is the worst pain that you can imagine. Well,

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Speaker 1: as she was sitting there and the doctor left, she

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Speaker 1: got down on her knees. She grabbed my hand. She said, please, God,

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Speaker 1: do not take my only son from me. I'll never

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Speaker 1: forgive myself. The pain that I felt still sticks with

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Speaker 1: me to this day. I'm a strong guy and I

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Speaker 1: very rarely ever get emotional, but the pain was so

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Speaker 1: real to her. It was her prayer was my choice, Josh,

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Speaker 1: we need to take a break and we will come back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 1: and we're here with Josh Lucien as he shares his

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Speaker 1: near death experience and his wisdom for living life. Josh,

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Speaker 1: you left us last with your mom. What was it

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Speaker 1: that had you come back? The pain was so real

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00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: to her and her prayer was my choice and I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that at the time. The next thing I know,

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Speaker 1: there sinormal light fairies that I saw that we're making

483
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: the tree and everything that I wanted to be in

484
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: the other world. Now it's spun himself around my head

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Speaker 1: and I felt myself laying back in my body again.

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Speaker 1: And it was about a week after that, I woke

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Speaker 1: up from being in a coma. I had this funny

488
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: helmet on the house is like, what just happened? I

489
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: had no idea Next to the last thing I knew.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching a person feeling all this pain,

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Speaker 1: and the pain is the connection of love. They go

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00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: hand in hand. You can't truly love something if you

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Speaker 1: don't feel the pain of loss when they're gone. It's

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00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: just natural, accepted for what it is, absorb it, and

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Speaker 1: then use it to honor that love even more. You

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Speaker 1: can look at it from the sense of no ego.

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00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: It's our own selfishness that doesn't want to let this

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Speaker 1: person go from their life because we want them to

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Speaker 1: be there for us. But the reality is they're always

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Speaker 1: with us. At the power of thought, we can go

501
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: back to him whenever we want. And you come to

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Speaker 1: acceptance and know that you're always in the loving presence

503
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: of anybody who've ever lost, they're always with you. Honor

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Speaker 1: them with your life and with your heart because they

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00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: are a part of you. And that's the way you

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00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: feel you were connected to all that you love in

507
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: the world. That is that comes next, And if anybody

508
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: was looking back, they would only want you to be

509
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: loved and cherished and feel the divine love that they're

510
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Speaker 1: feeling at that particular moment that they knew you will

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Speaker 1: share one day when you were a child, I mean obviously,

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Speaker 1: well I'm guessing you must have been in tremendous pain

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Speaker 1: when you woke up. Oh yeah, I had a lot

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00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: of issues. Uh. Like I said, I was born left handed.

515
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: I became right handed afterwards. I had to wear this

516
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: funny helmet for about a month and a half. Even

517
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: so much is tapping my head could have killed me

518
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: at that point I should not have recovered. I was

519
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: literally a medical miracle of the fact that I survived

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00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: because this day I don't have any permanent injury. There's

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00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with me. In fact, I was put in

522
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Speaker 1: an LD class learning this tabled after all this for

523
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Speaker 1: about two years because I was still learning to operate

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Speaker 1: and I had to learn motor functions again and stuff

525
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and throughout it. They gave me an i Q test

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Speaker 1: and about the third grade, and I scored a hundred

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Speaker 1: forty eight, which, come to find out, it was the

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Speaker 1: highest in the whole school. And they said, how could

529
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Speaker 1: a kid that had a severe brain injury score so high,

530
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: and they said, apparently he's he already knows this stuff. Josh,

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Speaker 1: when you were young, did you remember that near death

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Speaker 1: experience or did it take a little while. I remembered it,

533
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: true and blue. I just didn't know how to explain it.

534
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: I told my mother about it. I told her about

535
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Speaker 1: the place I had seen, and a kid like way,

536
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: I had nothing to relate it to. I told her

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Speaker 1: about the beautiful woman and flying around the mountains, and

538
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, he was probably dreaming in a comma,

539
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, and they kind of shook it off like that.

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Speaker 1: Around the age of twelve, I told her that I

541
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: went somewhere when I passed. I actually went somewhere because

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: I physically felt the feeling of moving and being moved,

543
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: just like when you know, on a roller coaster, except

544
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: a thousand million times faster. I was going to a

545
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: to speed a light at one point. Yeah, I was

546
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: definitely being moved. And I explained all this to her

547
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: in such a way that she knew after I told

548
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: her what the doctor said. That was absolute confirmation because

549
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: she never shared what the doctor told her. She never

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Speaker 1: shared the prayer that she said in silent with anybody.

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Speaker 1: Once I told her that she knew that I was

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Speaker 1: still in that room while the e k G or

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Speaker 1: the brain monitor, I was in a vegetative state. I

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00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: should have had no senses. I shouldn't have been able

555
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: to dream. I shouldn't have been able to fathom anything whatsoever,

556
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Speaker 1: let alone have an experience that is exactly like real life,

557
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: but in a different set of senses that I don't

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Speaker 1: even have presently. So if my brain can do all

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Speaker 1: that while injured, it we're really not using but ten

560
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: percent and of our brain, like they say, because you

561
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: can only access the other ninety when you leave your body. Apparently, Josh,

562
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: how did this impact your mom? You blamed herself for

563
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: a while because she didn't watch me. She put her

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00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: faith and you know, somebody else to watch me. And

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00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: she always blamed yourself to that, and I told her,

566
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to blame yourself. In fact,

567
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: it's been one of the greatest gifts in my life.

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00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: There's a series of mirrors. I've come to accept that

569
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: life is a mirror in so many ways, and one

570
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: of the mirrors is is to see yourself doing compulsive

571
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: acts of things over and over. And for example, her

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00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: guilt is somewhere that our mind tends to go back

573
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: to because it's looking for something to blame other than

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: accept the responsibility for ourself and everything in our life.

575
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: And in doing so, all you're doing is passing the

576
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: buck to something else. You're not actually owning it. And

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00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: can we We can if we, if we have the

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00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: faith to know, and my life's experience, I could explain

579
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 1: to you doing some odd experiences, for example, anybody can

580
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: do this at home. I can prove to you that

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: your loving feelings have an effect on your material world

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00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: around you. You can take bananas from the same stalk

583
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: of bananas on one, focus all the love that you

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00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: have to offer to that banana. On the other, pluck

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00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: from the same one, focus all your negative feelings of

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00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: hate and anguish. Over the next three days, confirm each

587
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: day the love and the hate on different bananas, and

588
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: watch what happens to those bananas. I've done this test

589
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: over a hundred different times, and every time I've even

590
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: done it with a handicap, using a green green one

591
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: that I've projected hate onto and an older one that

592
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: I projected love onto. The green one still rotted, still

593
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: turned black, and if your thoughts can have an effect

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00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: on bananas to this degree, imagine what they do to

595
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: your own body. So be what it is you want

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00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: to be. Happiness love is our main pursuit, but we

597
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: have to do it in a way that we don't

598
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: take from others. Were accepting responsibilities for the role that

599
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: we play and our part and their part. You can't

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00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: blame anybody for anything in your life. Everybody is a

601
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: mirrored reflection of who you are. The people that surround

602
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: you are what define you. If you look to the

603
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: way people relate to people in their lives, you can

604
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: normally tell who they are using these mirrors as a

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00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: good judge of We are what we create, We are

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00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: what we love. And I have my own form of

607
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: meditation that I try to do every night to center myself,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm fully expressing myself to that

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00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it is which I love. How do you do that

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Speaker 1: your meditation? Can you share that with us? I've been

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00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: meditating since I was twelve, and I got into martial

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00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: arts and kung fu, and that's what first got me

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00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: into wanting to meditate. And that darkness that you have,

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00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: you experienced that every night right before you go to

615
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: sleep meditate and is no different than going to sleep,

616
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: except you're remaining just awake enough to still observe your thoughts,

617
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: your subconscious thoughts, your sole thoughts. You can put whatever

618
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: name or label you want behind it. There is another

619
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: mind at play, that is you. My ego was one

620
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to let go of. It was

621
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: always pushing its way in a meditation or a fear.

622
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: If you have a fear and meditation, it will project

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: itself and that's all your mind will think about. And

624
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: we're most people are fear based by nature. That's what

625
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: motivates a lot of people is fear, and it's the

626
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: natural will to survive and duty and responsibility. You have

627
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: to let all that go. Is literally as if you

628
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: were jumping into a black hole. All the man made

629
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: words and worries, all that stuff doesn't exist anymore. You're

630
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: just just going into the empty darkness of all that is,

631
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: and you have no expectation and nowhere to be. And

632
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: as soon as you shut yourself off to all that is,

633
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: then you observe your thoughts and I try any bit

634
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: of a thing that normally projects itself into my mind

635
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: is a picture, and those pictures have profound meaning to myself.

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00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: For example, before I meditate, I'll go into it with

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00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: a question in mind, but I won't ask the question meditation.

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00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: I'll physically say it before I meditate, because once I'm meditating,

639
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: if I apply any conscious thought whatsoever. It's like being

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: in a dream. The moment you realize you're in a dream,

641
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: you wake up because you just grab control of it.

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You have to completely let go

643
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: and be automatic, and sometimes focusing on your breath is

644
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: a very good way to do it. I found that

645
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: having a repeating binary sound, much like your heartbeat that's

646
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: in sync with your heartbeat. If you can sink your

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Speaker 1: own heartbeat to a binary beat, it works very good

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Speaker 1: because the same thing that keeps your heart beating, the

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Speaker 1: automatic motion of that, and the same thing that automatics

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Speaker 1: makes you breathe. You're being self automated. The moment that

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Speaker 1: you let go completely and you're paying attention to the

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Speaker 1: self automated aspect of your own body, that's when your

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Speaker 1: mind goes into this place where dreams become available, and

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Speaker 1: dreams are not only to help you in your present,

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Speaker 1: there to help you overcome fears and worries, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's things that you've experienced in the past and you

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Speaker 1: thought that you could do better, And it's your way

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Speaker 1: of letting go of regret and forgiving yourself so you

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Speaker 1: can love more fully and more holy. Doing so, I meditating,

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Speaker 1: once I'll let go of all this. I've seen some

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Speaker 1: very profound things and it has really helped me understand

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Speaker 1: a lot about myself more than anything, and doing so

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Speaker 1: by answering those questions. Once you fix your mind, everything

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Speaker 1: else just seems to fall in place. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any thoughts, Josh as to what the purpose of our

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Speaker 1: life here is. I think everybody else has their own

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Speaker 1: specific purpose. We're all doing exactly what we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be doing right now. God's will is exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Some people are performing processes that they don't even understand

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Speaker 1: that they're doing, and they're doing it completely automatic. The

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Speaker 1: only purpose that we're supposed to find is to really

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Speaker 1: enjoy the gifts that we've been given. If we're not

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Speaker 1: enjoying the gift, the same thing that allowed the Creator

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Speaker 1: to create us is what we should be embracing every

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Speaker 1: second that we're alive. And my attitude is love, happiness,

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Speaker 1: and the pursuit of I like a good Romans one

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Speaker 1: tin where it says all things in nature can clearly

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Speaker 1: be seen by the Creator, and nobody is with that excuse,

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Speaker 1: basically saying all you have to do is look in

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Speaker 1: nature to see the Creator, because it is seen everywhere

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Speaker 1: every time. For example, if you do a little research

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Speaker 1: into plant consciousness or something, you'll find that plants are

683
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Speaker 1: incredibly smart. A tomato plant, and no sooner than a

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Speaker 1: bug attacks that, let's say, as spider Mike comes along

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Speaker 1: air moone that attracts a carnivorous might to kill it. Now,

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Speaker 1: from an outside perspective, tomato plant doesn't know anything about bugs.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even have a brain in order to do this.

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Speaker 1: But this field of consciousness, God, if you want to

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Speaker 1: call it, it puts everything in the exact place where

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Speaker 1: it needs to be to perform its exact role. We'll

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Speaker 1: to Coast day dot com. Welcome back to Shades of

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Speaker 1: the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're with Josh Lucian. Josh,

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Speaker 1: you are just talking about the intelligence in nature. Plants

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Speaker 1: are incredibly smart. A tomato plant, and no sooner than

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Speaker 1: a bug attacks that, Let's say a spider MC comes

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Speaker 1: along and starts nibbling into it. This tomato plant releases

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Speaker 1: a pheromone that attracts a carnivorous might to kill it. Now,

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Speaker 1: from an outside perspective, tomato plant doesn't know anything about bugs.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even have a brain in order to do this.

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Speaker 1: But this field of consciousness, god, if you want to

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Speaker 1: call it, it puts everything in the exact place where

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Speaker 1: it needs to be to perform its exact role. And

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Speaker 1: that's why nature is so perfect. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: to learn from it. And we also have a lot

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Speaker 1: to learn from children, because children are the newest incarnations

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Speaker 1: and they have the most to teach us about ourselves.

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Speaker 1: They haven't seen or been brainwashed through the way people

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Speaker 1: have learned to accept that reality is they're outside the

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Speaker 1: box thinkers, and they only encompass love, and they only

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Speaker 1: want love. And if you really want to know what

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Speaker 1: life's purpose is, sit down with a child and they'll

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Speaker 1: show you really fast. Why did you get so smart here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, from the doctors thinking you might end up

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Speaker 1: a vegetable to being I read. I tend to read

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Speaker 1: a lot, but you know, I've come to a certain

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Speaker 1: point where I don't even read that much anymore. I

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Speaker 1: just look at things and I really listen with an

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Speaker 1: open heart, and I see that without being a scientist.

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Speaker 1: I followed quantum physics to try to figure out where

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Speaker 1: Schrodinger's cat is that you know, it's not until you

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Speaker 1: exactly observe something in a defined position that it has

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Speaker 1: any meaning whatsoever. In quantum physics, we're coming to a

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Speaker 1: day and age where science is going to prove that

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Speaker 1: we are so much more than you could ever imagine.

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Speaker 1: That reality is nothing but a group collective dream of

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Speaker 1: everybody working together. And if everybody in the world agreed

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Speaker 1: upon that love and happiness is what we were seeking,

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Speaker 1: we would see a world that would reflect love and happiness.

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Speaker 1: I think right now a lot of people are focusing

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Speaker 1: on the fact that money is having its way with

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Speaker 1: the direction of the planet, making all the money in

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Speaker 1: the world isn't always what's best for nature. If we

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Speaker 1: study nature and we see how it cooperates with itself,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't compete against itself at all. And for example,

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Speaker 1: they've done research on ivy plants. When it grows it

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Speaker 1: has spatial awareness. Another ivy plant will not grow over

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Speaker 1: another ivy plant because it will kill it and strangle

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Speaker 1: it in neither one will get that much light. They've

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Speaker 1: done the same research on birch trees that they don't

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Speaker 1: compete against each other, especially if they're born from the

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Speaker 1: same berthing tree. For example. Uh there's ted talks on

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Speaker 1: plant consciousness and the way water crystals form. For example,

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Speaker 1: dr Omoto done some research on water crystal formation and

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Speaker 1: just the thought and prayers put behind the thought of

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Speaker 1: water changes the way they crystallize. Now our body is

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Speaker 1: that water. And this is one of the most unique

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Speaker 1: things that I want to share with you that I've

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Speaker 1: seen in creation, just looking at nature, and it might

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Speaker 1: help a scientist out there. Everything around us is in

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Speaker 1: perfect proportions to everything that we are. Everything that surrounds

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Speaker 1: us is in perfect proportions to who we are. For example,

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Speaker 1: if you were to take the entire universe and break

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Speaker 1: it down hydrogen, carbon, every single element in a pie chart,

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Speaker 1: and then you were to compare that to Earth, you're

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Speaker 1: going to see the same similarities, but tween Earth and

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Speaker 1: the human body, and the human body is literally an aspect,

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Speaker 1: a mirrored reflection of all of creation. And just like

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Speaker 1: our bodies are water and the rest carbon, so is

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Speaker 1: our planet. You've left us something so empowering. You had

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Speaker 1: just brought up Dr Emoto, and I know of him

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Speaker 1: doing a rice experiment that you've heard me say on

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Speaker 1: the show before. But you have people all over Japan

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Speaker 1: take one pot of rice and divide it into two jars,

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Speaker 1: and in one room they place one jar, and people

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Speaker 1: would think negative thoughts and say negative words, and in

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Speaker 1: the other room all positive. And at the end of

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Speaker 1: the month, that rice that got the positive words was

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Speaker 1: like a golden color and smelled nutty, and the one

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Speaker 1: in the other room turned black exactly. And that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, the power of thought has so much more

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Speaker 1: power than we can ever imagine. And that's why I've

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Speaker 1: been waging a war against the news, because they try

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Speaker 1: to tell you what to think for yourself, teaching people

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Speaker 1: what to think. I'm teaching them how to think, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's more important because people can see things

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Speaker 1: clearly for what they are for themselves and how they

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Speaker 1: apply it. Dr Moe's research. I've done my own experiments.

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Speaker 1: Here's one that you can do as well. I'll share

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Speaker 1: with you. Take at least three people, take a coin.

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Speaker 1: Everybody agree on what side that coin is going to

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Speaker 1: flip over every time. So if you agree on heads,

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Speaker 1: everybody there agrees on heads. Now, if you have a skeptic,

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Speaker 1: this will not work because the skeptic will be the

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Speaker 1: negativity that blocks this experiment from happening. But if you

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Speaker 1: all truly believe it's going to flip over heads more

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Speaker 1: than fifty of the time, I don't care how many

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Speaker 1: times you do this, flip it over ten times. If

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Speaker 1: you agree ten times, it's going to be heads more

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Speaker 1: often than tails. As many times as you do this experiments,

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Speaker 1: it will be heads more often than tails. Oh that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I saw Dr Russell targ he's a physicist, and then

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Speaker 1: to the laser beam and he got into a lot

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Speaker 1: with consciousness and remote viewing, and it's a documentary that

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Speaker 1: they had a random number generator and same kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: People with enough positive intention could swing what this random

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Speaker 1: number generator did, so it was like ones and zeros,

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Speaker 1: and they could actually have it be more like the

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Speaker 1: ones showed up based on their intention. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You are connected to everything around you. Everybody is, and

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Speaker 1: that's why qualium entanglement. For example, we could take an

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Speaker 1: electron from an atom and stretch it off to the

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Speaker 1: other side of the universe. When we interact with that atom,

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Speaker 1: immediately some type of information is transferred all the way

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Speaker 1: to the other electron on the other side of the universe.

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Speaker 1: Is if they are together already. Now, that proves that

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Speaker 1: relativity is wrong. That proves that our modern understanding of

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Speaker 1: science with relativity is completely out the window. What that

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Speaker 1: does prove is everybody is connected and the only separation

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Speaker 1: of self is the illusion of what our senses are

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Speaker 1: telling us that we're separate from. But that's why nature

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Speaker 1: cooperates with itself. It doesn't use manmade labels and define

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Speaker 1: this tree or that tree, or this or that it sees.

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Speaker 1: Everything is just one working, one perfect process, and I

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Speaker 1: think we have a lot to learn from nature. It

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Speaker 1: really is a good teacher. I've looked a lot of

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Speaker 1: Indian beliefs and I really I like some of the

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Speaker 1: Hopi and In beliefs. They were really one with nature,

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Speaker 1: and they took great knowledge from nature and applied it

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Speaker 1: to their own culture very uniquely. Wow, Josh, just looking

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Speaker 1: at the time, it's about time to come to an

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Speaker 1: end the feeling that I have coming through me now,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you could just share a little bit about

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Speaker 1: this is somebody could be listening to this. Being twenty

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Speaker 1: years old, somebody could be listening right now and being

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Speaker 1: there's that sense of oh, I should have started the sooner.

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Speaker 1: It's too late for me. That's regret. And I've written

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Speaker 1: a lot of poetry about regret, and regret is only

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Speaker 1: the negative aspect you're focusing on. The negative aspect holding

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Speaker 1: yourself back. You're trying to talk yourself out of doing

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Speaker 1: something before you even give it a go. You'll find

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Speaker 1: out that every journey begins with a baby step. You've

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Speaker 1: never made it anywhere in life by not trying, and

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Speaker 1: as long as you continue to take those steps, the

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Speaker 1: more you apply yourself, the more results you're going to see.

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Speaker 1: This reality gives people exactly what they deserve. God's will

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Speaker 1: is happening, even sometime we may not understand it from

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Speaker 1: our point of view. You're playing the role that you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to play. Everybody is doing exactly what they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. If they are trying to change and they

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Speaker 1: want to change, then regret is not something that facilitates

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Speaker 1: change in a positive outlook. If you want change to

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Speaker 1: be in a positive outcome, surround homes yourself with positive people,

856
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: surround yourself with positive things, and you'll see positive results.

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Speaker 1: From this moment forward, we can change. We can. I

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Speaker 1: think we should all get out a couple of bananas

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Speaker 1: and see how powerful we are. And this can really

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Speaker 1: a bit. Oh, Josh, thanks so much. Do you join

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Speaker 1: And there's more than likely when one door shuts, another

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Speaker 1: always opens. Very good And if anyone's looking to get

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Speaker 1: Josh Lucien L you see I O N. Josh, thank

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Speaker 1: so much for hearing um everything I've witnessed as a child,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Josh Lucian, and thank you for

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