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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Kyler Versus Baker Part two,

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Speaker 1: the good Friends matchup for the second time. Can Kyler

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Speaker 1: improved to two and oh or will Baker draw even?

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Speaker 1: We'll also put the Browns defense under the microscope. Just

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Speaker 1: what away to Kyler and Company on Sunday. But first,

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Speaker 1: Roster moves, Upon Roster moves, It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode

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Speaker 1: four eighty one, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one handed catch in a

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Speaker 1: touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. By

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Speaker 1: the way, MJ, this is why we live in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five degrees and sunny. When the team hit the

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Speaker 1: practice field Wednesday morning, it was perfect. I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: you know, going back to August, all the rain we

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Speaker 1: very breaking, I should say, but there's been one or

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. We're still hot on Halloween. So

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Speaker 1: but you really have to enjoy the mornings and evenings

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Speaker 1: do like the early practice time. And we're not focusing

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Speaker 1: on how Roland Cardinals going to play at a ten

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Speaker 1: o'clock kick in this case, it's going to be at

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Speaker 1: So Cardinals and Cleveland Browns, that is the matchup here

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Speaker 1: in week six. But before we dissect which is obviously

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Speaker 1: the number one storyline, and that is Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. A lot of moves made ahead of practice

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Where do you want to begin? I don't

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Speaker 1: if you will, But is there something that stood out?

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Speaker 1: Because I got a whole list here of what the

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Speaker 1: team has done. Well, let's let everyone know that, according

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Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury, Chandler Jones will not play this week,

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Speaker 1: not expected to, and he called it a stretch because

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Speaker 1: he's been placed on the reserve COVID nineteen list. The

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Speaker 1: any other news was Rodney Hudson, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: He played a lot against the forty nine ers filling

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Speaker 1: And then you look without number fifty five, more reps

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Events Joseph, who will address the media on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and we'll really dissect the defense versus the Cleveland Brown's

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Speaker 1: All right, before you get into some of the transactions.

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Speaker 1: I do think it was interesting when Kingsbury was asked

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Speaker 1: about Richard Rodgers. You know, I always think, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a complex offense. Now he's played in a couple

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to being back and stronger next year. End tweets.

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Speaker 1: We wish Max Williams well. We hope that means he

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Speaker 1: got a nice cushion, if you will, on the rest

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Speaker 1: of the division outside of the Rams to where and

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Speaker 1: we know it's going to happen at some point, Mja.

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Speaker 1: It might be this week, it might be next week

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Speaker 1: against the Texans. There is going to be that game

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Speaker 1: where we're going to be left scratching our head saying,

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Speaker 1: how did this happen? It happens every year. Now Again,

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Speaker 1: I do think the focus is on one game at

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Speaker 1: a time, but you just and you can't plan it.

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Speaker 1: They'll talk about and maybe really it's after the bye

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Speaker 1: week because under Kingsbury they haven't played very well in

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Speaker 1: the bye week, and with Kingsbury they haven't had a

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Speaker 1: great record in a month of December. So but this

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Speaker 1: is a different team. They have more town, they're more advanced,

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Speaker 1: so it's hard to go back and compare. But they're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose the game here. But you got to avoid

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Speaker 1: losing streaks. So if you happen to lose it, The

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Speaker 1: Browns very talented team. You got the Texans coming up,

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Speaker 1: and then you gotta play two games in five days.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have the Packers here, so take care of

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Speaker 1: business on the road again and then try to scratch

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Speaker 1: out some home wins. Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All Right, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals offense, what are they looking at this week?

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Speaker 1: With a Cleveland Browns defense that's on Sunday against the

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Speaker 1: Chargers allowed almost five hundred yards of offense, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: first downs, and they had just one takeaway. Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: passed for almost four hundred yards. He had five total touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: That was Sunday. But if you look big picture at

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Speaker 1: the Browns, this year, fourth best defense in the league.

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Speaker 1: They are number two against the run. They rank eleventh

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Speaker 1: in scoring, but they only have three takeaways, two hundred

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Speaker 1: options and one fumble recovery. They cover the field, they

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Speaker 1: just don't get a lot of footballs and get the

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Speaker 1: offense back onto the football field. But this is a

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Speaker 1: formidable defense that the Cardinals will be playing on Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it all starts with number ninety five Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: and then they got Milique Jackson, number ninety seven, Maligue McDowell,

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Speaker 1: and then Jadeveon Clowney did not play last week. And

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Speaker 1: then you start looking at some of their backups, Andrew

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Speaker 1: big Billings and then Tyreek McKinley. Some of these in

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Speaker 1: our household names that have bounced around. I want to

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Speaker 1: say McDowell. It was a draft pick of the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: So that's where it all starts. And then you know

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Speaker 1: they don't have really household name linebackers. They didn't use

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Speaker 1: a high pick on Jeremiah Oh, I'm gonna go Jeremiah Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go with oh cal second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Yes out another day we talked about him. So it

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Speaker 1: was I believe he was on your top forty. Correct,

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Speaker 1: that's correct, good memory. And then you look at the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Ward, I know Nusom's dealing with an injury. He's

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Speaker 1: a rookie. And then they got Greedy Williams that was

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Speaker 1: a hype draft pick. And Troy Hill he's more of

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Speaker 1: a slot guy. We remember him with the rams. He

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Speaker 1: had to pick six in Week sixteen. John Johnson the

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Speaker 1: third they I mean again because they play in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: May not know these household names, but they're really good

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Speaker 1: when it comes to stopping the run. Pressure in the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And now it's a matter of how many guys in

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Speaker 1: that secondary healthy can the Cardinals get enough time to

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Speaker 1: throw the football down the field. Ward dealing with a

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Speaker 1: neck injury, Newsome calf, Greedy Williams shoulder. So that's your

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Speaker 1: top three or three of your four cornerbacks that you

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Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on. And Greedy Williams suffered

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Speaker 1: the shoulder injury on Sunday. Ward suffer the neck injury

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Newsome did not play. In fact, he's been

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Speaker 1: inactive the past two games. Have to wait and see

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Speaker 1: if he is available this week, but it is a

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Speaker 1: banged up secondary. And to your point, if Kyle Murray

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Speaker 1: has time to throw the football, how does the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns defense handle a DeAndre Hopkins, aj Green, Christian Kirk,

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, Chase Edmunds, James Connor will figure out the

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Speaker 1: tight end position. Even if the Browns are completely healthy

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, that's still a tall task. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: again I'm a little surprised because you know, we know

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Speaker 1: that Miles Garrett can get to the quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's sitting with with seven sacks right now. You would

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Speaker 1: have thought at some point they would get some tip

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Speaker 1: balls or some interceptions, and they haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: do that. And that's got to be disappointing from them

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Speaker 1: because you know, well, I guess they give up forty

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Speaker 1: seven points last week, so they got to go back

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Speaker 1: to the drawing board. But I'm a little surprised when

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Speaker 1: you have a guy like Myles Garrett and when he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney and you know, Denzel Awards a really good player,

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Speaker 1: that you're not getting more turnovers seven sacks. Leading tackler

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Speaker 1: on the team is Miles Garretts and he is himself

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Speaker 1: dealing with his own injuries, knee and ankle issues. But

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Speaker 1: you're looking at one guy on that defensive front, and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are very familiar with Jadavian Clowney. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Kyle the Murray knows firsthand how dangerous he can be,

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Speaker 1: especially if you throw him the football he can return

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Speaker 1: it for a pick six. Good play by Clowney dropping

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Speaker 1: into coverage way back when when he was with the

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Speaker 1: Seattle I think he learned his lesson on that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: although it did happen earlier this season, though this time

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Speaker 1: he didn't see the linebacker across the middle, so and

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Speaker 1: that's tough. There's a lot of quarterbacks that kind of

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Speaker 1: not tunnel vision, but sometimes you don't always see that

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Speaker 1: guy drop in or move, and it's a good read

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Speaker 1: by the linebacker watching the quarterback's eyes. Clowney baited him

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Speaker 1: because he knew exactly what he was going to do

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Speaker 1: and he timed his jump perfectly. And you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised about Clowney because you know, the reports

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Speaker 1: were clearly he's a guy that was asking for a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. He's bounced around for a couple of

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Speaker 1: different franchises, but the reports are he's got bone on bone.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much he does practice during

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Speaker 1: the week, but it's something that it's lingering him. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can play every single snap, So

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Speaker 1: when he's in there, maybe it's an opportunity where you

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Speaker 1: want to run to his side. He's got physical attributes,

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Speaker 1: he's tough, but again, he just can't go from sideline

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Speaker 1: to sideline. DJ Humphries was asked this week about Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett and Dadavian Cloudey and he said, what you see

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Speaker 1: on film is what they are. Quote. I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to get out there and get after them.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at left tackle DJ Humphries's one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the game and defensive end Miles Garrett. Do

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Speaker 1: they move him around or is that the matchup to

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Speaker 1: pay attention to as far as protecting the edge and

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Speaker 1: making sure Garrett does not get into the backfield. Well,

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Speaker 1: in the perfect scenario, they like to use Garrett on

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Speaker 1: the right side and Clowny on the left side, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they won't switch it around. You know,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals feel comfortable with Calvin Beejamant right right right tackles,

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Speaker 1: So again I have to go back and look and

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Speaker 1: there are times that you know, Miles Garrett can stand up.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he's got his hand the

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Speaker 1: dirt all the time. So he's a guy that can

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Speaker 1: do it. I'm not saying he's going to drop back

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Speaker 1: into coverage because we always used to get upset with advance.

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Speaker 1: Why is Chandler dropping back and coverage. Well, they have

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Speaker 1: a call, so something happens, then they got it covered.

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Speaker 1: So again I'll have to find out they move them around.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like he just puts his hand in

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Speaker 1: the dirt because he can get an advantage on the

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Speaker 1: tackle by just you know, bull rushing. But we know

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Speaker 1: Humphries has gone against a lot of good pass rushers

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Speaker 1: in this league over the years. Excited about that matchup

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Speaker 1: because those are matchups that define a player not just

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Speaker 1: each week, but for an entire season and your career.

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Speaker 1: And DJ Humphries certainly welcomes those challenges. Well, we talked

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Speaker 1: about it last week, Trent Williams against Chandler Jones. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why Trent Williams is the highest paid

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Speaker 1: left tackle in football and Chandler Jones at some point

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Speaker 1: was the highest paid outside linebacker. Same situation here, Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett against DJ Humphries. Miles Garrett was the first overall

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Speaker 1: picking the draft. So and that's one thing that the

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Speaker 1: Browns have done it They've had a lot of top

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Speaker 1: five and top ten picks, and it's not just the

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Speaker 1: first round. They've gotten good players in the second and

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Speaker 1: third round. You look at Garrett and he was one

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Speaker 1: of those players preseason that was peg to be defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year based off what he had done

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Speaker 1: the year prior. Seven sacks leading the Browns and tackle.

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Speaker 1: So he's well on his way if he can stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: To me, that becomes the focal point of the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: offensive line, making sure they protect Kyler Murray, make sure

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Speaker 1: they have running room for a Chase Edmonds or James Connor,

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Speaker 1: but making sure Miles Garrett does not disrupt the offense

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Speaker 1: because by himself, much like an Aaron Donald when we

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Speaker 1: talked about that game going into the Rams, there are

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Speaker 1: certain players in this league, m Jay where they can

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Speaker 1: even though it is a team game, but individually they

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Speaker 1: can wreck a lot of havoc. Yeah, and that's why

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Speaker 1: when teams build rosters quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher, corner.

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Speaker 1: That's that's where you building now. In other sports you

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Speaker 1: build up the middle. Clearly, the Cardinals built up the middle,

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Speaker 1: bringing in Colins Simmons and bringing back Hicks and then

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson on the offensive side of the ball. So

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals offensive line really gonna need to focus on

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Speaker 1: their individual matchups and also maybe some protection perhaps depending

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Speaker 1: on how quickly Garrett gets off or they have some

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Speaker 1: trouble with him. It's not slights on Humphreys or Beacham.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you do need a little help. But Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: Mallike Jackson, Malik McDowell, and Tadavian Clowney. Those are your

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Speaker 1: four defensive lineman that have done a lot of the

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Speaker 1: work for the Cleveland Browns this season. Some question marks

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Speaker 1: at the linebacker position, but as we talked about, in

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Speaker 1: that secondary, some big time names with some big time injuries,

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Speaker 1: and right now you just don't know what to expect

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Speaker 1: from that secondary outside of you know some guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, Greedy Williams, Award, he's been he's been good

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Speaker 1: this season. Both Williams and Ward both three passes defense.

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Speaker 1: And you brought up Troy Hill from the Rams, John

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Speaker 1: Johnston from the Rams as well, so there are some

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Speaker 1: familiarity with a couple of those players that the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: can look back at film and say, all right, how

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Speaker 1: did they attack us? And how can we attack them

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Speaker 1: from a wide receiver? For Sam Now, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this driving in today case Keenum is a backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback there, I wonder is he given any a little

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Speaker 1: you know, traits or information hot about the quote air

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Speaker 1: rate when they try to spread teams out. Again, It's

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Speaker 1: been a while, but he did play for Kingsbury concepts,

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Speaker 1: but I do think year three we're not seen as

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Speaker 1: much as that, although maybe we see more of it

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Speaker 1: now because Max Williams is not on the football field

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Speaker 1: as Cliff Kingsbury rivert back to what he knows and

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Speaker 1: tried to figure if that might be sustainable for a

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Speaker 1: week or two or however long until defenses adjust and

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Speaker 1: it's aboup to the coaching staff to make the adjustments

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Speaker 1: to the adjustments another thing. And he did it last

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Speaker 1: week with Sean Harlow bringing an extra linement. I mean

634
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Speaker 1: nothing against Darl Daniels. They want him to be more consistent.

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Speaker 1: Demetrius Harris can do a little bit of both. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if Richard Rodgers, and then we know Ross Travis

637
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Speaker 1: is more of a pass catching tight end. But if

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Speaker 1: I got to assume Harlow is going to be active,

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Speaker 1: just based on numbers, and so they can use an

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Speaker 1: extra lineman instead of but they also want to go

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Speaker 1: with loving personnel, so that would be Daniels or you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much Rodgers would play, but it

643
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: just happened. They gotta address three three tight ends in

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Speaker 1: this game just because of special teams and other stuff.

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Speaker 1: So but I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in

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Speaker 1: an extra lineman like they did sixty one times last

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Speaker 1: year with Josh Stones, and we did see that a

648
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Speaker 1: little bit on Sunday with Sean Harlow coming in. Earlier

649
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Speaker 1: in the season, with Max Garcia coming in, Josh Jones

650
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Speaker 1: was the big guy. We always would hear his name

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Speaker 1: get announced. Number seventy nine is now eligible. You heard

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Speaker 1: that year or weekend and week out. It now it's

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Speaker 1: become Max Garcia and Sean Harlow. But it does offer

654
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Speaker 1: and also maybe I don't who knows, maybe can Sean

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Speaker 1: Harlowe catch the ball? I mean, you're you're eligible as

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Speaker 1: an additional offensive lineman. But you are eligible to catch

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Speaker 1: the ball, Well, you're asking him because I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much they blitz. I mean, obviously it's down in distance.

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Speaker 1: But if you're bringing him in there, you're he's asked

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Speaker 1: to protect. So you can get a little bit more time,

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Speaker 1: go through your progressions and worst case scenario, you know,

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Speaker 1: drop the ball off to a screen pass. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As we look at this Week six matchup from the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offense perspective, as far as what they're gonna matched

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Speaker 1: up against, as far as the Browns defense, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about defensively, this Browns team very good against the run.

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Speaker 1: They allow just about seventy five yards a game and

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Speaker 1: less than three and a half yards a carry. But

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Speaker 1: if you can start and we always talk about stop

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Speaker 1: the run, stop the run, which we're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: lot on Thursday, but if this can be the game

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Speaker 1: that Chase said, and James Connor can get going and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, how is it the

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Speaker 1: past sets up the run as we've seen, where you

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Speaker 1: get out to a lead that you can go back

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Speaker 1: to the run, or does Kingsbury, do something out of

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Speaker 1: the Norman, maybe try to establish the run early on

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Speaker 1: good question. I mean just based on where they are

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Speaker 1: with the offense, and I think you are not in

681
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Speaker 1: agreement is sustainable. Now they're gonna run into some coordinator.

682
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Speaker 1: It's going to spend the entire week at the office

683
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna try to come up with the game plan.

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Speaker 1: But I think you just gotta, you know, stick to

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Speaker 1: your eleven twelve personnel and then sprinkling ten personnel. But

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Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of I Candy two backs in

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Speaker 1: the backfield together. Rondel Moore is in motion where he's

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Speaker 1: almost a guy that Kylie goes through his progression, doesn't

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Speaker 1: see anything, he can throw the ball in the flat.

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Speaker 1: I just believe they're gonna stay with their offense. But

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Speaker 1: I do think based on matchup, down and distance, we

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Speaker 1: could see them go four wide. And then you can

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Speaker 1: also have Chase Evans or Connor in the game as

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Speaker 1: that fifth guy, whether in motion or they're lining up

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Speaker 1: next to a Murray, to be that safety net if

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna come after him. Obviously, when you open up

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Speaker 1: the edges when you have ten personnel, the eye candy

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Speaker 1: of a Rondel Moore, who led the team in rushing

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Speaker 1: last week out of the backfield, and that little swing

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Speaker 1: pass which was a pass but on the stat sheet

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Speaker 1: it was listed as a run because the ball was

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Speaker 1: thrown behind the line of scrimmage. But that, all of

703
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Speaker 1: a sudden now has to be accounted for. And you

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Speaker 1: always point to, hey, don't forget about Kyle the murray,

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Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, it's hey, don't forget

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Speaker 1: about Rondel Moore. As far as being a weapon in

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Speaker 1: the running game. Yeah, And I know fans out there

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Speaker 1: they want to see more of them, get more reps now. Again,

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Speaker 1: he had a great twenty eighteen, but he's had some

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Speaker 1: injuries a long season. I like the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll see more of Antoine Wesley. He's a big,

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Speaker 1: physical receiver right now. You know he's number five. He

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Speaker 1: is playing on teams, so you know there's enough balls

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Speaker 1: that spread around. But clearly, you know, Aj Green only

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Speaker 1: had one catch two weeks ago, Christian Kirk only had

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Speaker 1: one catch, so and we knew Hop got involved, and

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Speaker 1: I thought it was important to get involved at least

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. And obviously towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the game, the third and fourth quarter. So I don't

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't change a lot. It's just my curiosities.

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Speaker 1: My antenna is going up. What does eleven personnel look

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Speaker 1: like without Max Williams? What tight end do you plug

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Speaker 1: in to replace a Max Williams? And is it more

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Speaker 1: of a blocker? Because we saw Max Williams line up

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Speaker 1: a lot as a wide receiver stand up in the slot.

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Speaker 1: Even though that was quote unquote ten personnel or eleven personnel,

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Speaker 1: it was still five wide at times, but you had

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Speaker 1: a tight end on the football field. And yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of question marks. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns are wondering as well. You do

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Speaker 1: have a lot of weapons. It's just how do you

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Speaker 1: It would go back to that puzzle analogy. You lose

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Speaker 1: a piece, it's it's now gone, it's missing, So you

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Speaker 1: can't go find another one to fit that exact part

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Speaker 1: of the puzzle to complete it. You have to find

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Speaker 1: something kind of similar. And that's what the Cardinals need

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Speaker 1: to work on this week. Yeah, and you know when

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Speaker 1: you look at Richard Rogers, I mean again, he's We'll

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Speaker 1: see if he's active, because he's got to get accommented

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Speaker 1: to the offense, and we'll see if he's on teams.

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Speaker 1: But I would think he possibly can take a lesser

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Speaker 1: role to what Max Williams did. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's gonna come in here and be Max Williams.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but based on his physicality, the

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Speaker 1: billy that he can catch the ball is blocking. You

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Speaker 1: know Darrell Daniels, he made a great catch in the

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Speaker 1: end zone a couple of years ago, and I think

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Speaker 1: if he can get open and over the middle, I

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Speaker 1: think Kylier trusts him enough, But I think if you

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Speaker 1: move maybe the next couple of weeks, Richard Rogers could

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Speaker 1: play a similar role, but not the same impact that

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Speaker 1: when Max Williams was on the field. Rogers is going

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Speaker 1: to have to prove that he is better than to

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Speaker 1: be Treas Harris. What if he dressed three though, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying as far as playing time within the offense,

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Speaker 1: Max Williams went down, it was Harris who got those snaps. Yes,

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Speaker 1: now Daniels was unavailable, but what and Travis is more

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Speaker 1: of a pass catching tight end, So I understand what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, but I think they're gonna have to dress

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Speaker 1: three just because and they all could play like twenty

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Speaker 1: three twenty four snaps. We're not gonna get the fifty

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Speaker 1: forty five snaps at Max Williams. You can spurt it

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Speaker 1: around a little bit more evenly, trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: because Max Williams did everything well and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you're looking at what you have and like, well,

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Speaker 1: this guy is good at this area, but not as

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Speaker 1: good as that exact back and forth and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we can't find just one piece, maybe collectively. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm the emphasis on the eleventh personnel. He was so

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Speaker 1: important in that offense. It's really unfortunate, but that is

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Speaker 1: where this team is at the moment, and hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: you know it's long term, but next year, who knows

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Speaker 1: what happens. But we're focused on this week and this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and really it's the first one that he's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got that short i R where you've

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Speaker 1: got to be out for three weeks. Hopefully that's a

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Speaker 1: Zeke Turner. I don't know how severe or the shoulder is,

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Speaker 1: but we know Max is not coming back, and that's

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Speaker 1: the first one and you see it around the league

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Speaker 1: and you know, luckily didn't have that one of those

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Speaker 1: guys in training camp go down for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: So it's part of the physicality of the game. And

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Speaker 1: we always talk about, you know, at the end, if

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Speaker 1: you're playing in late December, well in January. Sometimes you've

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Speaker 1: got to be lucky, and that comes to being healthy.

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Speaker 1: We often say that Kingsbury this season needs to prove

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Speaker 1: that he can adjust when defenses stop what they're doing offensively.

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Speaker 1: The years on the Cardinals. Now it's on Kingsbury to

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Speaker 1: adjust to an injury, and not just any injury, but

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Speaker 1: a huge injury. And we'll go back to when Christian

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Speaker 1: Kirk missed those three four games and season number one,

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Speaker 1: we did see Kingsbury adjusting. The offense looked much much

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Speaker 1: better than the first couple of games, certainly much better

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Speaker 1: than that game against the Lions in Week one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's this entire game. It's a chess match, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is what we do, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you stop us. All right, now we need to figure

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Speaker 1: out something else. And it's gonna be interesting in that

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Speaker 1: first quarter, maybe that entire first half. How much cat

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Speaker 1: and mouse if you will, with what the Browns do defensively,

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Speaker 1: and they're well coached from Stefanski to their offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: to the defensive quarter. I want to say is Joe

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00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: would and their special teams coach. So they're very similar

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals staff. There's a lot of experience there.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they moved on from Freddie Kitchens and his staff,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they're they're well coached, and they have

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Speaker 1: a lot of experience, and you know, Joe Wood kind

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Speaker 1: of reminds me of Vans shows. It has been around forever,

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Speaker 1: so there's nothing really he hasn't seen. Now it's a

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Speaker 1: matter of how do they attack the Cardinals, including quarterback

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. One oh five is the kickoff on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yes it's a road game, Yes it's in Cleveland, but

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Speaker 1: it is that late window on Sunday afternoon. So eight

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Speaker 1: thirty am pregame coverage begins Week six Cardinals and the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals remain undefeated and go to four and

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Speaker 1: zero on the road, which certainly would be a first

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Speaker 1: in a long long time as far as starting the

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Speaker 1: season with four straight Road wins before we close on

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Speaker 1: out And in this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Monday probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals need to

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Speaker 1: remind everyone. Episode four of Cardinals Folk Tales. Drafting Jake

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Speaker 1: is available on Wednesday, and depending on when you might

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Speaker 1: catch this episode of Cardinals Cover two could be uploaded

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Speaker 1: as we speak YouTube dot com slash az Cardinals a

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Speaker 1: look back at the selection of former ASU quarterback Jake

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Speaker 1: Plumber in nineteen ninety seven. One we know Plumber was

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Speaker 1: asleep when he was drafted. That never happens anymore. And

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Speaker 1: then you will realize that back then, which is before

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Speaker 1: I had arrived in town. But then that ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: ninety six, ninety seven year for a SU they were

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Speaker 1: the team in this market. It was Arizona States ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals in terms of football, and Jake

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Speaker 1: Plumber was very, very popular and everyone wanted Plumber in

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Speaker 1: a Cardinals uniform. Yeah, and you know it's just the

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Speaker 1: stars aligned. I want to say. They were at the Biltmore.

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Speaker 1: That's where the Dave done when pump Plumber was taking

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Speaker 1: a nap, So that's where they rented. They rented a

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Speaker 1: rumors suite at the Biltmore and Dave Dunn was the

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Speaker 1: agent and Jake was taking a nap. Now, the thing is, gosh,

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Speaker 1: who was a quarterback? The Niners had interest in Jake,

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Speaker 1: they did, and I'm taking a quarterback in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I can't remember his name. It's not a

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Speaker 1: household name anymore. Remember, Yeah, Jim Drunken Miller was Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: very good. Well that's probably the Bay Area. I do

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Speaker 1: remember that because there was a lot of discussion. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I do remember this. And he thought, you know, Jake

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Speaker 1: the snake, you know a little bit of Joe Montana

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Speaker 1: where you know, it wasn't the biggest guy, but he's

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Speaker 1: wired and he can make all the throws. Yeah. That

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Speaker 1: So the nine Ers and the Cardinals were thrilled that

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Speaker 1: he was there, and it just made so much sense.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they're trying to get his stadium, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it all worked out by basically beating the Washington football

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Speaker 1: team on that Sunday. But yeah, it was. It made sense.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately or unfortunately for Jake, they wanted him to

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Speaker 1: compete for the starting job and he's like, I'm not competing,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it was, was it Jeff Blake

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Speaker 1: came in. I do remember Jeff Blake being because that

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Speaker 1: would have been, but I don't remember the years that

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Speaker 1: would have been when Denny Green Josh McCown but they

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Speaker 1: wanted him to compete with Jeff Blake and he's like no,

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Speaker 1: and he went to Chicago. It was snowing, and then

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Speaker 1: he went back to Denver and he signed with the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: So Jake Plummer great college career at Arizona State, dude,

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Speaker 1: and then at with the Arizona Cardinals. Don't forge yet.

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Speaker 1: It was Jake Plummer as the quarterback that led the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals pass the Cowboys to win the first playoff game

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Speaker 1: as an arrow is on a Cardinal and the addition

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Speaker 1: to winning that game against Washington that allowed that stadium

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Speaker 1: vote to pass and what we have now as far

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Speaker 1: as State Farm Stadium is concerned in Glendale. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to say that was the first Cardinals playoff winning

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Speaker 1: like forty five or fifty years. Um. I was on

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Speaker 1: that team plane. I was coming back from Dallas, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or going to both both, And when we're landing, there's

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Speaker 1: five thousand people at the airport and it's it's dark

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Speaker 1: out it's it was just fascinating, like, oh wow, it

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Speaker 1: was only five thousand, but you know, it was the

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Speaker 1: fact that, you know, the Cardinals had arrived and I

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00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: think I've told you the story before. The Dallas Morning

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Speaker 1: News the next day said there's a new a new

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Speaker 1: team in the NFC East and it's the Cardinals, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, they finally knocked off the Cowboys. It

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Speaker 1: was it was great and then unfortunately went to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and got pounded. Don't that's that's that's that's taking the

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Speaker 1: story too far. We're just focusing on the beginning. They

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Speaker 1: are pumping in crowd noise, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to it's like fingers on a chalkboard here because

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: we turned the ball over quickly and a game got

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Speaker 1: out of reach. Basically, let's just focus on what Jake

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Speaker 1: Plummer did. No he's I'm a big fan of Jake Plumber.

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Speaker 1: How it all began drafting Jake Episode four Cardinal's Folk

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Speaker 1: Tales available on Wednesday. I got another story about Jake.

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Speaker 1: Right here we go story time. I love story time

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Speaker 1: with Mike j Okay. So we're leaving. I'm leaving the facility,

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Speaker 1: and Jake lived in our two Key and I live

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Speaker 1: in our two Ki. I didn't have the same place

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Speaker 1: he did, but I lived in Tuke. And so we're

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Speaker 1: driving over the overpass on Warner Road and we're getting

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Speaker 1: close to the exit out of fifty first Street and

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Speaker 1: Jake reruns this lady and and I'm like, I hope

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00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: he's okay, you know, And so he pulls over. I

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00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: pull over and he goes, this never happened, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. I'm like, no, whiplash, nothing.

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Speaker 1: So it was just funny that I was there and

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Speaker 1: of all people, he just I don't know if she

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00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: stopped in her hurry. But it was interesting because I

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Speaker 1: see here Jake getting out of the car and I'm like, oh,

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00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I'm good, don't don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: So I had a really good relationship with him, and

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Speaker 1: a couple of other times I would leave to go

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Speaker 1: to Flagstaff on a Sunday night, and for some reason

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Speaker 1: I was able to run at him and Pat Tillman,

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Speaker 1: and he asked me if you want to follow us,

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Speaker 1: and I said, nah, you guys are gonna go too

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Speaker 1: fast for me. Jake Plummer a wonderful person first, foremost

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Speaker 1: and yes, big deal at Arizona States and with the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and how he became a Cardinal is the

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Speaker 1: subjects of episode four of Cardinals Folk Tales. Go to

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Azy Cardinals, YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: as Cardinals and on that note, we will put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition. Cardinals cover too, partentied by Hunday

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Speaker 1: probably of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amandro for Mike Drecky, I'm Greig

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Speaker 1: Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time you're on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.