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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Buck Sexton Show. We have our

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Speaker 2: friend Ned Ryan with us. He is the founder and

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Speaker 2: CEO of American Majority. We're gonna talk to Ned about

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Speaker 2: the state of play going into the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 2: How we're doing with the tactics of getting votes in

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Speaker 2: the places we need them when we need them there,

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Speaker 2: how we're doing on the messaging battle, and just always

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Speaker 2: feeling about politics in general. Right now. We've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of things to talk to mister Ned about, sir.

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Speaker 2: Always good to see you, my friend. Tell me tell

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Speaker 2: me this, what is your biggest concern right now? I'm

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Speaker 2: not asking about a primary candidate anything else. For the

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Speaker 2: GOP heading into the Biden reelection effort right now, trying

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Speaker 2: to oppose him. What's your biggest point of concern? What

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Speaker 2: makes you think, guys, we got to wake up here.

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Speaker 1: I think the first thing, Buck, as soon as I

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Speaker 1: saw the Biden you know, announcement for reelection. Right now,

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Speaker 1: if you were to ask me, who do I put

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Speaker 1: the odds on favorite to win reelection. It's Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris. As horrifying as that thought is that

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Speaker 1: we have Grandpa Dementia and Harpy Harris as the nominees

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Speaker 1: running for reelection right now in April of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I have to tell you, I would give

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Speaker 1: them the nod because I think the Democrats are far

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Speaker 1: we're kind of getting caught up a little spun up

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Speaker 1: about is that Trump is a descantis. I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you, and I'm saying this in some ways a

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Speaker 1: little bit to kind of grab people's attention. I don't

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Speaker 1: care who the nominee is. I really don't, because I

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Speaker 1: think we're getting lost in that. First of all, we

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Speaker 1: an America First candidate as the Republican nominee in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Rejoice in that fact. But we had better

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Speaker 1: figure out how we become better at our ballot collecting machine.

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Speaker 1: And buck I've been hammering on this for a while.

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Speaker 1: In fact, American Majority has made it one of our

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Speaker 1: to candidates, to anybody that will listen, really explaining what

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Speaker 1: where Democrats have realized it's not really about votes, it's

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Speaker 1: not persuading people, it's about how do we collect ballots,

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Speaker 1: more ballots than they do than Republicans. And I've explained

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Speaker 1: have a model on what we should be doing in

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Speaker 1: every presidential battleground state and it's called Florida. And let

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Speaker 1: me explain a little bit about what Florida has done

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Speaker 1: very very well, especially over the last five years the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party in Florida to give people hope, but to

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Speaker 1: also highlight what we should be doing. Over the last

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Speaker 1: five years, the Republican Party in Florida went from being

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Speaker 1: That's a seven hundred thousand swing in five years. How

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Speaker 1: did that happen? Because they committed about two to three

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Speaker 1: Now we're up seven seven hundred thousand, swing up four

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Speaker 1: because of some of that, I don't think Florida's a

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Speaker 1: seven election cycles, they've actually committed to an absentee ballot

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Speaker 1: absentee ballots returned in Arizona, you would have won secretary

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Speaker 1: but nobody took the time to actually fund an absentee

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Speaker 1: every statewide. And so my message right now is, don't

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Speaker 1: figure that one out, Buck, I think we're just having

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Speaker 2: Is the DNC small harder than the RNC? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is there machinery just more efficient and better functioning than ours.

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Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, since Obama and Organizing

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Speaker 1: this absentee ballot chase program really well. In fact, someone's

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Speaker 1: programs alone in Arizona. All outside groups, right, not state party,

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Speaker 2: I think great, And just I think this is I

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Speaker 2: want to learn this too, right, I mean you look

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Speaker 2: we say like outside groups, right, I mean take us

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Speaker 2: the DNC is just kind of a thing that's there

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Speaker 2: as the Democrat apparatus. Where are the centers of power,

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Speaker 2: like what actually matters for Democrats to win elections? And

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Speaker 2: I mean in terms of the electoral tactics and get

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of it is that the candidates themselves,

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Speaker 1: about the fact book really quick. Josh Shapiro and Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: is that? Because Democrats have figured out it's really not

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Speaker 1: It's about understanding, have we seeded the field with enough

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Speaker 1: Buck is they have gone in and they've gotten a

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Speaker 1: have not done that. In Florida. We've done it fairly well.

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Speaker 1: We've done kind of the push. We've pushed people to

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Speaker 1: So I think it's incumbent upon outside groups and obviously

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Speaker 1: a state GOP. We have to make sure we facilitate

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Speaker 1: programs in a very robust way. And I've told the

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Speaker 1: other folks that are involved it has to probably start

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Speaker 2: Now, is it fair to say that you know, you work,

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Speaker 2: you know, as cee of American Majority, you're doing the

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Speaker 2: the GOP, Conservatism, et cetera. Are you completely to write?

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Speaker 2: Are you out gunned at least just by the sheer

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Speaker 2: not all of them are fun to buy sorrows. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Well, I have to tell you, in fact, my new

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Speaker 1: I think that I think the right needs to really

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Speaker 1: less than ten million into absentee ball chase. The left

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Speaker 1: how they spend their nonprofit money. And again, if you

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they did this legally, but Mark

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Speaker 1: four hundred plus million into presidential battleground states into blue

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Speaker 1: one example. It's obviously a significant one. But you realize

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Speaker 1: some of this other stuff. They're doing law fair, they're

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Speaker 1: doing investigative journalism, they're doing Floyer request, they're doing a

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Speaker 1: we use our nonprofit money much much better, and until

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Speaker 1: I think outgunned pretty significantly.

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Speaker 2: the about the zucker Bucks issue. You know, people will

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Speaker 2: refer to this, Well, what actually happened there? I know

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Speaker 1: all going to go break for a Republican, you would

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Speaker 1: have won the state auditors race, and you would have

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Speaker 1: beaten Keith Ellison in the Attorney General's race. The numbers

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Speaker 1: are there. It can be done. So I want to

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Speaker 1: give people hope and knowing, hey, if you do the

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Speaker 1: right things, we could we actually have some pretty good

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Speaker 1: victories next year. But simply hoping, simply wishing for that

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Speaker 1: is not going to actually get it done. We're going

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Speaker 1: to have to be seriously focused on and this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing, raising money to make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: doing the voter registration, working on doing absentee ballot chase.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot of hard work and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to have to actually

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Speaker 1: buy into that philosophy on our site. And the good

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Speaker 1: news is buck wherever I've gone out and trained on

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Speaker 1: this this year, i'd say ninety nine percent of people

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Speaker 1: agreeing saying we need to do this. We're going to

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Speaker 1: commit to it, and we're going to do everything that

448
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Speaker 1: we can to make sure this happens in our state.

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Speaker 1: So I'm optimistic if we do the right things, we

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Speaker 1: can win. But there's a lot of ground, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that need to be done between April and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and actually achieving that next fall in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. So we got a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do, but it can be.

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Speaker 2: Done and need When we come back, can I ask

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Speaker 2: you to tell everybody about your Virginian You've been on

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Speaker 2: the forefront of some of the political battles there, including

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Speaker 2: some of the school issues. Glenn Youngkin, I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: much in a while. I want a full I want

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Speaker 2: a full NED report card on Youngkin. And also I

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let's start with young kin. You know

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Speaker 2: I was all excited. I was on the for Virginians.

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Speaker 2: I was certainly given high fives for Youngkins, big, big

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Speaker 2: win and we needed a little bit of a boost

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Speaker 2: at for twenty twenty And how's he done, ned, I mean,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, is he a possible presidential contender.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna run in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty realistic that right now you've got

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Speaker 1: two heavyweights. I would argue one super heavyweight with Trump

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Speaker 1: and another heavyweight with DeSantis, and the polls reflect that

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, Youngkin's been doing a really good job in

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Speaker 1: here Virginia, especially considering he doesn't have the state Senate.

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Speaker 1: He's got the House of Delegates fifty two to forty

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Speaker 1: eight majority, he doesn't have the state Senate. But he's

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Speaker 1: been able to achieve some good things on a host

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Speaker 1: of fronts, and he's he and Jason Millais and win

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Speaker 1: some series have been doing his best they can without

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Speaker 1: having the full political power needed to achieve some of

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Speaker 1: these policy goals. But Glenn Youngkin right now, and I

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Speaker 1: think part of this might be part of the reason

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Speaker 1: buck that he's kind of foregoing a presidential I want

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Speaker 1: to remind people this year in Virginia, we have every

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Speaker 1: state Senate race, and we have every House of Delegate race,

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Speaker 1: And if Glenn Youngkin wants to be able to have

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Speaker 1: that last year of his governorship to achieve some policy things,

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Speaker 1: he's going to actually need to have the state Senate

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a battle Royale. The maps

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Speaker 1: are going to be really tough buck for us to

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Speaker 1: get to a twenty twenty tie right now it's twenty

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Speaker 1: one to nineteen, actually twenty two eighteen. For us to

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Speaker 1: get to a twenty two tie for Winston to have

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Speaker 1: the tie breaking vote is going to be an incredible

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Speaker 1: achievements can be very hard, So I think Glenn's focused

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Speaker 1: on that. We're going to be focused as well on

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Speaker 1: maybe adding a seat or two to the House of

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Speaker 1: Delegates majority. But if you were to ask me, and

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him, I don't really have that

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Speaker 1: connection with Youngkin, But if if I were to guess,

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Speaker 1: I would say he's going to be putting a lot

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Speaker 1: of time and resources into trying to get keep the

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Speaker 1: majority in the House of Delegates, hopefully get to at

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Speaker 1: least a twenty twenty tie in the state Senate so

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Speaker 1: he can have one year to really achieve some of

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Speaker 1: these policy goals that he really wants to achieve.

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Speaker 2: So so far, I mean it sounds to me like

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put words in your mouth. What's

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Speaker 2: the letter grade?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would say, given what he's been able to do,

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Speaker 1: there's been a couple maybe I would quibble with. I'd

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Speaker 1: give him a solid A minus.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, it sounds a minus or

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Speaker 2: B plus territory that's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, for somebody

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Speaker 1: who was in what is most assuredly a purple state,

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Speaker 1: he's he's been doing a really good job on what

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Speaker 1: he has the ability to do. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: So I think Glenn Youngkin has a future in Republican politics.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's twenty twenty four, but maybe it's.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's after that.

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Speaker 2: Is Virginia in play for Republican in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 1: Maybe? And the reason I say that buck is a lot.

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Speaker 2: I could say maybe, but you keep going.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, think about it, Glenn Younkin. Really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had Terry mcculluff throw them all kinds of gifts

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Speaker 1: coming down the home stretch. A lot of people really

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Speaker 1: woke up those last thirty forty days and said we

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Speaker 1: can win Virginia young can only win by what about

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Speaker 1: two points, So even then we kind of caught them

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Speaker 1: by surprise. I think there's going to be like kind

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Speaker 1: of goes back to and I don't want to sound

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Speaker 1: like a broken record. If the work is done to

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Speaker 1: actually do voter registration and absentee ballot chase in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: which is a little harder than some other states because

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Speaker 1: we don't register by party in Virginia. If we do

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Speaker 1: those things, I have every reason to believe that we

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Speaker 1: can make Virginia really competitive in twenty twenty four. But

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Speaker 1: it's are we going to invest the time and money

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Speaker 1: into the functional aspects that will make it.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the Virginia GOP, then is it is

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Speaker 2: in a maybe better than average place, because like the Penncil,

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Speaker 2: from what I understand from my Pennsylvania friends, for example,

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Speaker 2: the Democrat the Democrat machine in Pennsylvania is just kicking

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Speaker 2: the ass of the Republican machine in Pennsylvania in every

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Speaker 2: possible way, have them outplay and outfunded, outthought. And I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a big deal. Right, this isn't This

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Speaker 2: isn't like Rhode Island. You know, this is Pennsylvania. It's

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Speaker 2: an important battleground state. Virginia is in a little better

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Speaker 2: like how would you gauge that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Does sound like really? I mean yes, because of

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Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin, But you have to understand most state parties

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Speaker 1: are have no funding, they have no ability to actually

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Speaker 1: perform a lot of these things. I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: say I'm a fan of the Virginia GOP folks. I

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Speaker 1: think they're doing the best they can considering their limited finances.

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Speaker 1: But this is of some concern. If we're not going

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Speaker 1: to have really strong state gops, we better figure out

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Speaker 1: outside groups that are going to be very robustly funded

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Speaker 1: to be able to do some of those functions. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's doing fine. I would

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Speaker 1: give it definitely not as good a great as Glenn Youngkin,

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Speaker 1: but it's hanging in there. It's just it's a very

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Speaker 1: hard job. Look to run a state GOP in many

589
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Speaker 1: parts thanks to McCain, fine gold, but it's just it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to do and do it effectively. And I

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Speaker 1: would argue probably of the fifty state gops there's maybe

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Speaker 1: ten that are actually well enough funded to do effective work. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's come back in a second, ned too

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Speaker 2: What do they need to change? What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: Well? I think they've got some of the right people

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Speaker 1: on board. Buck Obviously Susie Wiles. Susie Wiles is really

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Speaker 1: running the show for Trump. You know, I'm Susie and

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Speaker 1: I had our differences, to be honest about the RNC

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Speaker 1: chair race. I was essentially running Harmei Dellon's whip team

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Speaker 1: getting her reelected, getting her slate, trying to get them elected.

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Speaker 1: The other two lost. It is what it is. Still

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Speaker 1: a big fan of Susie's because I think what's the

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Speaker 1: important thing that people need to understand about what Trump

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Speaker 1: has done. Susie Wiles and her Florida team that ran

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Speaker 1: the absentee ballot chase program that know exactly what they're

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Speaker 1: doing on that front, are essentially running the Trump campaign,

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Speaker 1: and so that should get people hope that the people

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. I think one of the interesting dynamics

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Speaker 1: he's going to be successful. I do not think there

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Speaker 1: can be a lot of big donors behind Trump. Is

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Speaker 1: going to be Trump and the small dollars donor base

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Speaker 1: against some of the donor class in the primary. I

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Speaker 1: give the nod to Donald Trump that he's going to

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Speaker 1: be able to pull it out. And I think some

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Speaker 1: of the donor class will come back to him in

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Speaker 1: the general, or they'll fund outside groups that will be

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Speaker 1: a benefit to him. You know, I have to tell you,

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Speaker 1: I think the Trump campaign is doing everything that it

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Speaker 1: needs to do right now. They know they're the front runner,

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Speaker 1: they know that they are really that eight hundred pound

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Speaker 1: guerrilla and quite frankly, Donald Trump knows how to use

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Speaker 1: that power and that ability to go after who he

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Speaker 1: perceives to be some of his biggest opponents. And I

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Speaker 1: think he's been extremely effective if you look at the

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Speaker 1: poll numbers. So not over yet, but you know, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of good things that are actually happening

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Speaker 1: with the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 2: Who do we have to win in order to win

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Speaker 2: the White House in twenty twenty four that we didn't

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty right, I mean that's where that would be.

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Speaker 2: That would be urban women if it see Okay, But

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Speaker 2: so that's interest. I talked to Ryan Grodowski about this

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Speaker 2: recently too, and I was, I like to ask the

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Speaker 2: people who know, right, because this is like when you know,

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Speaker 2: when I was in the CIA, You know, you get

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Speaker 2: the smartest silence you ken and room. You ask them

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Speaker 2: three of them the same question, you're gonna get three variations.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be rooted in the reality, but three variations

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Speaker 2: of what they think are you know what they assess?

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Speaker 2: And I sit here, I'm just like, how ned does

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Speaker 2: Trump win suburban women? I mean, in all honesty, I

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Speaker 2: asked the question because I if someone put that, someone

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Speaker 2: told me the way way, Oh, you don't want to

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Speaker 2: know it? Ryan said, no chance, Ryan said it's totally screwed.

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Speaker 1: So well, so no, I think there's some ways. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is it's a hard sell to suburban white women.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things that he's going

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Speaker 1: to have to do that. He can do one. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to find a vice presidential candidate that appeals

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Speaker 1: to them. I'm proposing Kim Reynolds, the governor of Island.

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Speaker 2: She's actually a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's actually in a lot of people have called

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Speaker 1: her the Ron DeSantis of the Midwest. I mean, some

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Speaker 1: people are going to have that perspective. She's very good.

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Speaker 1: I think that would mitigate some of that. For Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to go after some of these

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Speaker 1: issues that appeal to suburban moms. I think the transgender issue,

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Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, in women's sports and high school

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Speaker 1: women's sports can help him. So I think there's some

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a tough sell, Buck, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think we've got to be realistic. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a hard sell. So that then the question becomes,

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Speaker 1: how do you build out your voter base. How do

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Speaker 1: you get enough ballots out there to maybe overcome some

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Speaker 1: of that, Because you know it's going to be it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a hard sell in those battleground stays

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Speaker 1: of those suburban white white women. It is, we should

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Speaker 1: be realistic about it. So how do we mitigate that?

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Speaker 1: How do we overcome it?

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Speaker 2: What about white working class voters who came over for

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Speaker 2: Trump in twenty sixteen and may have sat out in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, even you know the one. I've seen some

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Speaker 2: data to suggest that they didn't necessarily go Biden, but

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Speaker 2: there were some stay homes. And look this we're speaking

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Speaker 2: very broad terms, but you know, the America First message

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Speaker 2: of changing the way we do trade with particularly China,

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Speaker 2: but just in general and bringing back manufacturing. You know

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Speaker 2: in Ross belt states, that really seemed to resonate. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, it doesn't seem to me that resonated the

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Speaker 2: same way in twenty twenty. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I haven't looked. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 1: you the numbers off the top of my head, but

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Speaker 1: I know there were a lot of people that voted

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Speaker 1: Obama in twenty twelve voted Trump in twenty sixteen in

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Speaker 1: that Upper Roust Belt. I think it comes down to

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Speaker 1: I'm sounded like a broken record.

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Speaker 2: Bucket guess, let me guess, get ballot chase and getting

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Speaker 2: the votes out and get.

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Speaker 1: A ballot like this is the thing, Like I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: this can be done if we can get to these

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Speaker 1: people and say I need you to request about or

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Speaker 1: the other thing too that I'm I'm also training people

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Speaker 1: on is please get it out of your head that

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Speaker 1: election day is the only aspect of election season. Here

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Speaker 1: in Virginia, we start voting six day, six weeks out,

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Speaker 1: So you need to start voting at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: election season, not on election day, because if you really

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Speaker 1: like your candidate, you're gonna literally save them four times

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Speaker 1: the money that they're going to spend if you don't

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Speaker 1: vote early on text calls, door knocks. Yeah, it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where the outreach was not what it

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Speaker 1: should have been. This is why I was so frustrated

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Speaker 1: about the RNC race. To be completely honest, Buck in January,

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Speaker 1: the RNC was miserable failed completely on the voter outreach

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Speaker 1: that it should have done, could have done. And if

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Speaker 1: some of those components are not there and you're not

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Speaker 1: as focused as you should be, this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: People that should be your voters stay home because you

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Speaker 1: haven't hit them enough times to get them to the polls.

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Speaker 1: So I have to tell you if we do not

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Speaker 1: if we are not firing on all cylinders next year.

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Speaker 1: In regards to outreach, registration, ballot request election season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're up against it. It can be done. But well,

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Speaker 1: I'm now you're really getting me frustrated about the R

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Speaker 1: and C and and those folks that are running it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm going to ignore them and we're

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Speaker 1: going to do the best we can without them.

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Speaker 2: How does I mean you've been talking about these things.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's it's it's it's interesting to hear about.

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Speaker 2: I think people are curious, Like we say, do do

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Speaker 2: ballot chase?

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Speaker 1: Like what? What?

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Speaker 2: How does this actually work? Like if I put you

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Speaker 2: in charge of getting the absentee ballot thing done in

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, like Wisconsin, right, that will

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Speaker 2: be an important state. How does that work? What do

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Speaker 2: you do?

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Speaker 1: So I'll use Virginia as an examples some of that

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but just to explain a little bit, So you

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Speaker 1: request a ballot, an absentee ballot up to twelve days

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Speaker 1: before the election, right, So what we're going to be

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Speaker 1: doing is getting people to We're going to push them

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Speaker 1: to request a ballot all the way up until the deadline.

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Speaker 2: We know that I really I really want this, Like Stelley,

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Speaker 2: how do you put. What are you doing? You're sending

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Speaker 2: out emails? Hey, guys register for an absent yam.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, we'll find We'll find the people that

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Speaker 1: have either been traditional ballot requests or people that will

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Speaker 1: will actually model that we think our potential, and we'll

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Speaker 1: mail them. We'll probably mail them a ballot absentee ballot

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Speaker 1: request form in some of the state center races we're

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Speaker 1: in to get that form into their hands. To encourage them,

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Speaker 1: you need to fill this out and send it in.

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Speaker 1: Once they get in, the mail will probab fill up

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Speaker 1: with a peer to peer text. We'll probably fill up

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Speaker 1: with a phone call. The idea being we want to

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Speaker 1: expand our universe of ballots to get them in there,

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Speaker 1: and then once they're in the greater universe, we know

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Speaker 1: where they're at. Right, we know that somebody at this

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Speaker 1: address has a ballot, and it literally becomes a series

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Speaker 1: of harassments. Book. I mean that it's not rocket science.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you know who's requested about where they're at,

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Speaker 1: you call them, you text them, you knock on the door.

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Speaker 1: Here in Virginia, we can actually ballot harvest. I fully

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Speaker 1: intend to, within all legal limits, be able to do that,

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Speaker 1: and we will do that. So it becomes a series

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Speaker 1: of harassments to say, we want your ballot. You have

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Speaker 1: a ballot, let's return that ballot, and let's get it

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Speaker 1: in before you know the deadline.

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Speaker 2: So what are the like for Virginia. I know it's

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Speaker 2: different state to state, but ballot harvesting, can you just

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Speaker 2: can you have somebody you know who works for American Majority?

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Speaker 2: Can you have somebody just go to like, you know,

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Speaker 2: a big apartment.

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Speaker 1: We're harvesting here. I'm sorry, Yeah, churches were actually harvesting here.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, it's one of those things that I

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Speaker 1: want to have a conversation with some of these churches

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Speaker 1: and go, hey, it's legal, you can do it. We

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Speaker 1: should be doing it by all means legal where its

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Speaker 1: been decided in the state. This is a legal approach

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Speaker 1: to actually how you vote and collect ballots. We should

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Speaker 1: do everything. Yeah you can, I mean, buck, how do

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Speaker 1: you think we have the House of Representatives? And what otherwise?

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Speaker 1: Was a absolutely complete miserable year. California Republicans and New

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Speaker 1: York Republicans decided, hey, it's legal to harvest, it's legal

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Speaker 1: to do all these things. We're going to actually do

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Speaker 1: all of that. That's in many ways why we have

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Speaker 1: the US House of Representatives, because California and New York

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Speaker 1: Republicans decided these are the rules of the game. We're

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Speaker 1: going to play the game by these rules. There you go.

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Speaker 1: I am going to hopefully and we'll see and again,

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Speaker 1: this is what I hope to do. Get as many

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Speaker 1: churches as possible to actually ballot harvest here in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting. Well, ned, please save the country and help

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Speaker 2: us win the next election. Okay, can you work on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying, man, it's going to be It is going

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Speaker 1: to be hard. And I hope that enough people understand

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of hard work. It can be done.

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Speaker 1: The Republic's in the balance book, and that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: so focused on this stuff. Between now and twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Let's put in the hard work. Let's see if we

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Speaker 1: got a shot at restore in the Republic, because that's

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Speaker 1: what's really at stake in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: People want to help out at American Majority, where should

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Speaker 2: they go?

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Speaker 1: Go to Americamajority dot org. That's our website. You can

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Speaker 1: request a training, you can become involved with us. They

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Speaker 1: can always follow me on Twitter at ned Ryan. They

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Speaker 1: can see some of the stuff I'm pushing out and

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Speaker 1: talking about. So Americanmajority dot org is a great place

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Speaker 1: for them to check out with all the resources and

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Speaker 1: how they can engage with us.

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Speaker 2: Ed Ryan one of the best in the business. Sir,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for hanging out. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks book