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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January fourteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now a guy who was once actually photographed getting

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Speaker 1: that though. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by the

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Speaker 1: Coming up, We've got a big show today as urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer Watch continues. Nothing official from the Jaguars as of yet,

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Speaker 1: but plenty of media reports and photographs at certain air

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Speaker 1: fields of a certain former college head coach in town today.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss it all coming up. Talk of facilities upgrades

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Speaker 1: as part of that. Part of the reporting today involved

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Speaker 1: in Urban Meyer's uh conversations with the Jaguars could be

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Speaker 1: of facilities upgrades, staffing reports who could be on the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. And then we have a second hour of

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the network at five o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman in with us. And a lot going on

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Speaker 1: around Jacksonville today and a lot of it has to

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Speaker 1: do with a former bowling green Utah, Florida, Ohio state

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Speaker 1: head coach. You mean the guy that's one everywhere, has

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Speaker 1: been everywhere. Yeah, that's pretty good, right. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: one of the most successful college coaches of all time,

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Speaker 1: as record supports that. And UH, when you're an organization

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Speaker 1: that has not been able to change the culture and

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Speaker 1: become a winner, then you try to find somebody that

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Speaker 1: can change that culture. And does urban Meyer fit that billing. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have, I think with the head coach, great

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green that was JP. It was Bowling Green right

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Speaker 1: for heaven sake, and winning there and then goes to

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Speaker 1: he's had great success and and I hope he can

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Speaker 1: Let's hope. So obviously with the media reports today and

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Speaker 1: the cameras following around. He's around the building and from

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Speaker 1: the last reports the negotiations continue, but uh, he's around.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. Well, I mean, nothing's done until it's done.

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Speaker 1: You know, the inks you gotta get get dry. But

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Speaker 1: he's not here for no reason. So it's not a

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Speaker 1: joy ride today. Yeah, you know. But then again, like

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Speaker 1: And and it's so I think there will be I

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Speaker 1: Thirty two is a head coach the third best winning

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Speaker 1: because you're winning. After that point, I gotta win. And

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Speaker 1: the c s I companies. You know, the College to

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Speaker 1: on a day that is not quite official yet, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: He is really big on that part of it. When

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Speaker 1: down in. Yeah. I think in a perfect world, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: he'd like to have all of those traits of und

645
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can rank them however you want to,

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Speaker 1: And some people would view that armed talent is more

647
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Speaker 1: important than anything at the NFL level, But you know,

648
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: that's an argument for an entire show. But with urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer and his past health concerns, Uh, have you ever

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Speaker 1: heard or do you know of any concern that he

651
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Speaker 1: would have returning to the game and at the pro level,

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Speaker 1: which many view is being even maybe more high stressed

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Speaker 1: than the college game. Yeah. No, I think that's a

654
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Speaker 1: really valid concern because we've seen how he he lives

655
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Speaker 1: or dies with the wins and losses, and obviously the

656
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: pro game is different. I mean in in a pro season,

657
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: if you happen to get to twelve and four, that's

658
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: a very successful year, going three and one each quarter,

659
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Speaker 1: and so I will I do believe that would be

660
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: a bit of an adjustment. He's never really experienced, uh,

661
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: losing at a high level, and so it can drag

662
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: him down. Now hopefully he's been able to manage that

663
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: and do those things. But I think he has to

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Speaker 1: come into the Jacksonville situation knowing that he is going

665
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Speaker 1: to experience a little adversity and that he'll map out

666
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Speaker 1: a way to help the Jaguars work around that. But

667
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: I do believe the health concerns that we all may

668
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Speaker 1: have about him in the stress level is something that

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Speaker 1: we have to worry about. It I think is one

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: of maybe the negative factors that skeptics will have with

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00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: urban Meyer joining the franchise Bucky Brooks with us NFL

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Speaker 1: network analyst, and that that's why it had to be

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Speaker 1: for urban Meyer, if this thing gets done, it has

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Speaker 1: to be the perfect scenario for him. That he could

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Speaker 1: basically pick where where was the best set up for

676
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: him or he could have just sat in the Fox

677
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Speaker 1: analysts chair for another three or four years and done

678
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Speaker 1: whatever he wanted to do. So that's part of the reason.

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Speaker 1: I think why is the health part. But having the

680
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: football organization a clean slate of sorts. We talked about

681
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: this before, Bucky having that opportunity a clean slate organization.

682
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that often in the NFL where it's

683
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: a true clean slate, So it seems like this was

684
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I think this gives him the clote,

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00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: the best opportunity to run what he's always familiar with,

686
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: which is running a program that is very similar to

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Speaker 1: Florida and Ohio State. Meaning he's at the top, he's

688
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: the czar. He has the opportunity to really reshape the

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00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: franchise the way that he sees fit. Uh some of

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: the things that we will eventually find out about him.

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00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: Big on the sports performance piece, big on the nutrition piece,

692
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: big on mental performance, and doing all the things to

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Speaker 1: make sure that the players are in the right space

694
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to being a level competitors, and so

695
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: it's important for him to have that. Now. It will

696
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: be a bit of an adjustment because unlike college, you're

697
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: not recruiting, and so the way that you acquire and

698
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: develop players different. But I think his experience at Bowling

699
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: Green and Utah will help him with that because this

700
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: will be more of a developmental program. It will be

701
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: one that I think will skew a little younger based

702
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: on the roster that they have and the players that

703
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: they bring in, and so the development piece will be big.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this to the skeptics and the

705
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Speaker 1: naysayers who talk about US coaches not being able to

706
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Speaker 1: get it done, I'm gonna bring out Jim Harbaugh's immediate

707
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: success in San Francisco. Jim Harbaugh took over a team

708
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of a lockout where he didn't have

709
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: an off season program, and that year, right away they

710
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. I'm not saying the Jabbars are

711
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: in a situation like that, but it has been done.

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00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Matt Rule and what they're doing in Carolina when you're

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: rebuilding the culture, the winds didn't necessarily come, but the

714
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: culture has changed and they were extremely competitive. I think

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you have experience and success doing these rebuilds

716
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: multiple times, you have a tried and true formula that works.

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00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I think it's just about him implementing his plan and

718
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: getting everybody to follow suit. And Bucky you talk about

719
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: how you cannot recruit at the pro level, but which

720
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: obviously makes the position of general manager so very important

721
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: because that's the guy that's doing the recruiting for you.

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: He's identifying who are going to be the a lest

723
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: type of players. There's been rumors about about who might

724
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: fill that position if, in fact or a Meyer is hired. Uh,

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: what do you see in that in that role for

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00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: the general manager? What type of traits were they that

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00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: person have to have to be able to work with

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: an urban Meyer. Well, I think the first thing he

729
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: needs to have is he needs to have enough NFL

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00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: experience to understand the workings of how you acquire talent,

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Speaker 1: how you draft talent, how you understand and manipulate the

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: waiver y and transactions and all of those things. I

733
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Speaker 1: think it also needs to be a forward thinking football mind,

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Speaker 1: meaning they understand today's athlete, they understand how to get

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00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: young guys ready to go, and I think they also

736
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: have to work in lockstep in terms of a developmental

737
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: plan where you're not only getting young guys going, but

738
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: you're giving them opportunities to play. We saw how that

739
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: played out last year, and we saw the amount of

740
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: young players they got onto the field. But can you

741
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: get young guys onto the field and help them have

742
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: a media success. We saw Pete Carroll take his experience

743
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: from USC and have that in Seattle where they run

744
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: a bit of a collegiate program with the NFL sauce

745
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: on top. I think Urban has to create a situation

746
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: like that, and he has to have a right hand

747
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,040
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748
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Speaker 1: been to Pete Carroll. Alright, Bucky, if if if Urban

749
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Speaker 1: is in fact named the head coach, who do you

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Speaker 1: the draft, if in fact they take one, which is

752
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: still not a done deal. Oh, I think it's a doneee.

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00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is a guy. I think people

754
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: are going to talk about justin fields, but I think

755
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence exhibits all the qualities that he wants in

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Trevor Lawrence has always been a winner, going

757
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758
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: was able to do it Clemson. He is tough, he's competitive.

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Speaker 1: I think this spring we saw his leadership ability kind

760
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: of really come front when he was really involved in

761
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,040
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762
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Speaker 1: I think he is the right guy to be the

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and I think he has the right stuff

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Speaker 1: to be Urban Meyers quarterback in Jacksonville. And so I

766
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: think the excitement that is brimming and brewing in Jacksonville

767
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: is about getting the ultimate QB one to go with

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Speaker 1: a head coach who certainly has a track record for

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Speaker 1: being able to be successful. You know how you can

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00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: tell Bucky's excited, Logs because he's wearing that Jaguar shirt today.

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Speaker 1: Nice shirt. Well ready man, ready, Loggs knows it's been

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Speaker 1: a long time coming. Man telling them win some games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is indeed, Bucky appreciate your time, man on short notice,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again. Suit. I'm sure, for sure, Man,

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Speaker 1: be good. Logs to be good JP. Bucky Brooks out

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Speaker 1: Jaguars as of yet, but the reports happen in the

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00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: building and in town. Of course, the photos you've seen

858
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: on social media today of him stepping off a private

859
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: jet and being escorted in an automobile through the garage

860
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: doors and the loading dock here at the stadium earlier today,

861
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: that means he is in the building. The negotiations continue,

862
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: last we have seen, and if anything breaks in the

863
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: next hour fifteen minutes, we will bring it to you

864
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. Interesting stuff from Bucky there.

865
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: He's got some great insight as a former scout and

866
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: has been with the NFL Network for a number of

867
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: years now, and um, you know he's he's bullish on

868
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and has been for the last to the

869
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars, at least for the last year so well.

870
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: I look. I I think that there's good reason for that.

871
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: And the big reason, obviously is that he's had great

872
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: success at the college level and and at different levels

873
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: of the college level. And uh and that's a real positive.

874
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: So the greatest chance or the greatest ability to forecast

875
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: somebody's success is to look at past success. And he's

876
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: had great success in football at the collegiate level. And

877
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: can he take it to the pro game? If you

878
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: get the right players, he can be wildly successful. Tony

879
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Vaselli you might have heard of him. He's with us now,

880
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: prud of the Jaguars Left Tackle Hall of Fame finalists.

881
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: The vote coming up next week. A lot going on

882
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of days around the Jacksonville Jaguars. Today

883
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: is one of those big days on social media, Tony.

884
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's following what is going on. Nothing official from the team,

885
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: but he is in the building and negotiations continue. That

886
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: means it's on the doorstep. It feels like Tony, Yeah,

887
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a hard time believing that this

888
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: thing won't get done at this point. I mean, it

889
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocking if I mean, we've come this far

890
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: and they have this much water under the bridge. I think,

891
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, you can't say it's a done deal till

892
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: it's it's finished. But it looks like er Meyer is

893
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the the next head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

894
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: And listen, there's a lot of things you love about this.

895
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a firm believer that the head coaching

896
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: position is a leadership position more than an next and

897
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: no position. Um. And if you look at his track record,

898
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: while it's in the in college, no doubt about it. Um,

899
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: his leadership is off this charge and he has his

900
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: had success everywhere and people talk about, well, yeah, it's

901
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: easy to have success in Florida. Ohiuse state because you

902
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: get all the players that you want. Um. While that's true,

903
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: you still have to lead them and put them in

904
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: a position to win. But you can go back to

905
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: Utah undefeated, Um, success there, bowling green success there, or

906
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: you're not getting the best players. Um. And So I

907
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: think he is a leader. I think he's the right um.

908
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, has that makeup and that you're looking for.

909
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: And and but there's questions to Jeff brought it up

910
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: being going college to pro that's a transition. Some people

911
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: do right, So I don't, well, you don't know until

912
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: he actually does it. Obviously, all the reports out there

913
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: about health and stuff something like, I'm sure he's fully

914
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: aware of it's his health, that's something you just got

915
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: to um be aware of. But does that mean he

916
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: can't coach. No, there's a lot of head coaches in

917
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: this league, trust me, that have underlying health stuff going on.

918
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: So UM, I think overall it's a pretty exciting UM higher.

919
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: It's a splash higher um. It's gonna get a lot

920
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: of attention, and it's one of those things that, boy,

921
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: you just hope And I think this is what Shod

922
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: probably saying. I'm gonna go hire a guy who's one

923
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: before it knows what it looks like. UM is a

924
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: one everywhere he's been and as a bona fide leader

925
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: and see if he can that can translate to the NFL,

926
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: can translate to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, we'll see UM.

927
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Nothing officially yet from the team, but yeah, the negotiations continue.

928
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: And it is he's one of the all time great

929
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: college coaches, Tony And that's the thing. I mean, he's

930
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: the third best winning percentage in big time major college

931
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: ball ever behind Newton Rockney and Frank Lahy. I mean,

932
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: the guy has won, and he's won it four different,

933
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: really distinctly different places in college. So he's been able

934
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: to build those programs in in different places, in different ways,

935
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: with different people, and that tells you a whole lot. Yeah,

936
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: the dude's a winner. I mean, I mean, just look

937
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: at the numbers. I mean, you could and you hear reports, well,

938
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: he's not well liked or it's this or that. I mean,

939
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never met the man. So in

940
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: my book, you get the benefit of the doubt behind

941
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: met each other, and um and and and we'll figure that.

942
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: You figure that out what kind of relationship you have

943
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: with individuals. But set all that asign he wins, and

944
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: he's won everywhere. Now it's it's is it different from

945
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: the NFL to the pros? Yes, Is he gonna win

946
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: at the clip that he did in college? I hope so,

947
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: highly doubtful. The NFL is a different game because you

948
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: don't wake up and you have better talent than you

949
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: know teams on your schedule. It's not like that. But

950
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: he's won in big games. He's one in BCS. He

951
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: went through the playoffs. I mean, every every challenge has

952
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: been put in front of the Urban Meyers. From a

953
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: football standpoint, he's been wildly successful. And like I said

954
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: a second ago, you just the reason you hire him,

955
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: it's because you were betting the house that it translates

956
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: where he did in college to the NFL Tony. I

957
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt that that when urban Meyer

958
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: would walk in front of a team, a pro team,

959
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: this team, that there would be instant credibility just because

960
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: of what he's been able to accomplish all of his

961
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: previous stops. And it doesn't matter if he hasn't played

962
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: or won a game at the pro level. And I

963
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: think that's obviously a big battle, is being able to

964
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: have credibility in front of a football team. Now you

965
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: obviously have to do things to to maintain that going forward,

966
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: but I think that's a big part of it. And

967
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: with that being said, the next step obviously, if you

968
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: hire in fact, then the ink is drive with urban Meyer.

969
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: The next step obviously he's finding the manager. And obviously

970
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: that is critically important to any coaches success at the

971
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: National Football League level, you know, and I think it's

972
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: probably gonna be I don't want to say more important

973
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: because Urban obviously you know, he's procured players at the

974
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: call from high school of college and you've got to

975
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: do the work and be organizing all that um. But

976
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you're the right person because listen,

977
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Urban is gonna be running the show. I mean, let's

978
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: don't make no let's not make you know, let's make

979
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: no bones about it. I mean, he doesn't take this

980
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: job unless it's clear that he is in charge of

981
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: the football side. And so you have to find the

982
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: right GM who understands his role and says, hey, listen,

983
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: my job is to make Urban great. My job is

984
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: to manage the rest of the building so he focuses

985
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: on football and everything else, and to make him great,

986
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: and to find the players that fit the systems that

987
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: that whoever his offensive cortinator is gonna be, whoever his

988
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators. You find the right people, and you have

989
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: to do it in a in a manner that's colaborate.

990
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: So it's really important that GM has leadership in like

991
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: the way I would say best, because I think this

992
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 1: is what is it is, really servant leadership. Your job

993
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: is to make sure Urban has the tools that he

994
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: needs and to make sure it's the type of players

995
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: he wants to fit the scheme and to manage all

996
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: this stuff around him. So, um, you gotta find the

997
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: right guy, and uh, it'll be interesting. My guess is

998
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: Urban's gonna weigh in on that. I mean, they're probably

999
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: gonna unless there's something going on that we don't know about,

1000
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: or maybe they take one of the guys they've already interviewed,

1001
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: um and make them the GM. But it's definitely something

1002
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: that I would bet a lot of money Jeff that

1003
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: Urban is weighing it heavily on who the GM is

1004
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: and the reports today Tony that Trent Ballky has been

1005
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: involved in the process. That has been at least reported

1006
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: today but a couple of different outlets. So we'll see

1007
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: what the days ahead hold in that regard. I know

1008
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: what the days ahead hold for you. How nervous are

1009
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: you for the vote this year? The Hall of Fame

1010
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: votes coming up next week? Yeah, if I'm being honest,

1011
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about it because it's know, you know,

1012
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: you get remember, Jeff, as a player, you have that

1013
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: internal clock, like you know, when training camp starts, you

1014
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: start getting like feel lousy because you know camp stuff coming,

1015
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: and then you get in the regular season. Your body

1016
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: is a tune to when the game's gonna be played. Well,

1017
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: this is the fifth year I've done this, and so

1018
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: the last four like you get used to the like

1019
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: the cadence of what happens, Like you fly to the

1020
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you do all the work up and then

1021
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: the nerve starts kicking in as you get closer to

1022
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: the Saturday before, um Super Bowl. And so this year

1023
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: it's completely different. I think they're voting h five days

1024
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: from now. I'm not mistaken, and and so it's not

1025
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: that I've I'm very aware, but it's not top of

1026
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: mind because I'm used to, like I really start thinking

1027
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: about when I get to the super Bowl. So um,

1028
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: outside of people like u JP bringing up and asking me,

1029
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one of those things that this

1030
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: is the fifth year I've been in this position. I

1031
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: obviously hope I make it. I mean, my goodness, um

1032
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: more than any I mean as much as anything. But

1033
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: I have no control over they're gonna vote. I don't

1034
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: even know when they're telling us. I don't know how

1035
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: they're telling us. The hell of famous let us know

1036
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: that at all I don't know if I'm getting calls,

1037
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, the nineteenth night. I don't know if they're

1038
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: waiting until the week of the Super Bowl to tell us.

1039
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: Unless you get JP, you probably know more than I

1040
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: do at that about I don't. That's That's why I

1041
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: was interested in your take on it. But I know

1042
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: it's different this year in the COVID world. So all

1043
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: that now, you final thought here with you, Tony. You

1044
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: got a game this weekend on Westwood. What do you got? Yeah,

1045
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: I got I'm doing the uh, in my opinion, the

1046
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: best game in the weekend. Um and because as the

1047
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: most I think it's the greatest storyline around the Saints

1048
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. I mean, you have Drew Bradies is

1049
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: probably retiring, and you have the greatest quarterback of all

1050
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: time who is defying Father Time and Tom Brady. So

1051
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah. I fly out in New Orleans on on Saturday.

1052
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: That's the Sunday game, and I'm looking forward to it.

1053
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Cannot wait to watch those two teams play. I mean,

1054
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: the Saints beat them twice, um second time handidly beat

1055
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: them pretty easily. Um. But the Buccaneers are playing really

1056
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: good football right now. Offensively that Saints defense is good. Uh,

1057
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how Drew Brees did. I

1058
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: didn't think he looked great last week. Um, you can

1059
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: tell he's you know, father time is catching up with

1060
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, unlike Tom Rading's beating them off. But I

1061
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: can't wait to do it, just to see those two

1062
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: guys go at it. Um, two good, really good head

1063
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: coaches on the offensive side of the ball. And Bruce

1064
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: arians Sean Payton got two good defenses, you know what

1065
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's done and Todd Bowls for the Buccaneers, I

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Speaker 1: mean some of the better defenses. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: fabulous matchup with a lot of them storylines. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: since it's gonna be a fabulous matchup, give us a prediction.

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Speaker 1: Who you who you think is gonna win? Boy, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I just get a sense that I think the Bucks

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Speaker 1: are gonna pull it off. And that makes no I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the last two games, you'd say, well,

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Speaker 1: why are you saying that? I mean the Staints have

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Speaker 1: dominated them. Um, I think I think the Bucketeers are

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Speaker 1: playing better and better each week. I think of offensively, Um,

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Speaker 1: they're really explosive and I just I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: many I don't know how many points the Saints can

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Speaker 1: put up on the board against that Bucks defense. So

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Speaker 1: um to say that though I picked him the last time,

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Speaker 1: I picked the Bucks to be in the last matchup

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Speaker 1: because I thought they were pointing well and the Saints

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: blew them out. So I think it's a close game.

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Speaker 1: But if I had the bet, probably lead towards the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, Um, thanks for your time, short notice.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, and and and whenever this is final, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll do more shows like this. So we're waiting.

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Speaker 1: We'll all wait and see. It's like waiting for the

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Speaker 1: you know, remember when they choose the new pope in

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Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, you wait for the white smoke to

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Speaker 1: come out of the Vatican. I think we're all waiting

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Speaker 1: for the white smoke right now. I have a good one, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli prior to the Jaguars left tackle out of here.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is a fun day and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun week for him. Hopefully hopefully that

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Speaker 1: vote comes through for him next week. That would be nice.

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Speaker 1: He look, uh, I got firsthand experienced to to go

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Speaker 1: against Tony, and I don't think there's any question because

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Speaker 1: I went against a lot of other guys that are

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and played that played left tackle,

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Speaker 1: and Tony, I think it is better than just about

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Speaker 1: every one of them, to be perfectly honest with you,

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Speaker 1: So it would be a tragedy for him not to

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Speaker 1: get in. But there are a lot of really good

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Speaker 1: players on that list, JP. I mean, it's it's hard

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Speaker 1: to argue, uh that that some of these other guys

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Speaker 1: on the list don't deserve to get in as well.

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Speaker 1: And that's the great thing is that you're in the

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Speaker 1: conversation and and clearly all these guys are great players.

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Speaker 1: They are and let's just hopefully we can put that

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Speaker 1: to bed five days from now and you know, enjoy

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: it with him and move on about our lives here now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, today it's Urban Meyer Watch. He is in

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Speaker 1: the building, he is negotiating, and that there's nothing official

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Speaker 1: yet from the Jacksonville Jaguars organization. We've seen the photos

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Speaker 1: and the video work following him around town all day

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Speaker 1: to day after his arrival, so we'll see. And coming up,

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Speaker 1: we've got an hour on the Jaguars Radio Network and

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Speaker 1: the hour of Jaguar's Happy Hour, and if anything breaks

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Speaker 1: in that sixty minute period, we'll bring it to you

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Speaker 1: live right here on this program. A lot of excited

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Speaker 1: folks today logs and rightly so. Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: that it's a good reason because you're talking about bringing

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Speaker 1: one of the most successful coaches of all time at

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: the collegiate level into your your team, and your team

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Speaker 1: hasn't experienced a lot of winning. So the first thought is,

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Speaker 1: this team is gonna win now. They got they got

1127
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: a coach, they're gonna get a quarterback, and things are

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Speaker 1: going to be different. And hope is a beautiful thing, Jake,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is indeed, and we're back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: The Network Hour begins after this. This is Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: presented by the c s I Companies on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network.