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Speaker 1: This is our lives, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's the twentieth of July twenty twenty two. Look

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Speaker 3: at the smirk on this zero to my left.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Look at him, can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Hi, everyone, it's Morning Combat episode whatever the fuck it is.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm one half of your

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Speaker 3: hosting duo. I join you from the Capitol of Estatus

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Speaker 3: Needles right here in Washington, DC, now BC. Let me

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Speaker 3: see if I can get this right. I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna try and dig into my bag of wrestling knowledge,

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Speaker 3: which is not a deep bag, but it has a

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Speaker 3: couple of gems inside, like the bag of porn. Is

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Speaker 3: the ripam shirt from the Hulk Hogan movie No Holds Barred.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Luke, And I'm I'm blown away because I've

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Speaker 4: worn this shirt like eighteen times on blown Away. You

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Speaker 4: pulled that, Luke. That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: That's like I remember because that movie came out. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I was definitely an eighties kid, when that

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Speaker 2: That was an eighties thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that was like appointment viewing in the theater.

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Speaker 4: Build your birthday party around it. That movie was so

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Speaker 4: It's one of the shittier movies of all time. It's

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Speaker 4: just like Ninja Turtles Part one, that was a thing.

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Speaker 3: So I saw Ninja Turtles Part one just down the

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Speaker 3: sold out first night with my dad and my brother.

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Speaker 4: How about Yeah, that's why I'm talking about Rob Thomas.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: How you doing BC King Connecticut? Which what's going on? Bro?

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Speaker 4: I'm Washington worn down? Luke. I had to have my

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Speaker 4: my back. Well, the crack to Luke, A lot of

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Speaker 4: so you know, hanging in there. But that's it's a joint.

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Speaker 3: I had to get up at five point fifteen this

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Speaker 3: morning to have a coughing fit and hawk up a

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Speaker 2: Well, that was terrible.

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Speaker 4: That's certainly on brand for MK. If you don't do

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Speaker 4: of this show? I mean, if you ain't dying, Luke,

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Speaker 4: are you really living? That's the question when it comes

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Speaker 4: to host of this show. But I'm glad you've recovered

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Speaker 4: from our argument pre show Luke about work ethic, all right,

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Speaker 4: because if you're not on my level at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, I'm cutting your ass.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I understand that you have a great deal of

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Speaker 4: But hey, if I don't fight for room service diaries,

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Speaker 2: Okay? No, No, I like it that you crack the

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Yeah, Hey, we got a show today.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna talk about this Diaz news, which is

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Speaker 3: Plus hello, Bellator has a very good card on Friday.

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Speaker 3: if it all happens according to schedule, Tom Aspinall should

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Speaker 3: be here about twelve forty five Eastern Standard time. He

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Speaker 4: out in hives, Luke, But I'm happy to challenge them

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Speaker 4: today Long Island Look and Corey two of the best,

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Speaker 4: this show is so great, Luke, I'm think moving forward

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Speaker 4: think want that?

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Speaker 2: I like cash better. Cash is nice.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you ever seen that scene in

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Speaker 4: Same way about Zack's ex wife, Shawne. It's like, how

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Speaker 3: You can see the merch there right there, Morning Coombat

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Speaker 4: How about our newest item, our pregame preview t shirt

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Speaker 3: Actually I really enjoyed it. That will be out soon,

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Speaker 4: It might not be until September. They're wrangling some dates

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Speaker 4: I mean like a lot of good shit on there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I think that was my intensity coming through your ear hole, Luke.

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Speaker 4: How about less than three books a day to invest

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Speaker 4: in your health? Okay, put the watermelon vape away, put

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know, Luke. You know we can

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Speaker 2: It before we began.

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Speaker 4: Including Edison, Miranda, Bretis Prescott. Yes, yes, uncle uncle. What's

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Speaker 4: Well he's going to be cleaning up down there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be a good time for him.

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Speaker 2: BC.

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Speaker 3: There is a lot to unpack here when you think

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Speaker 4: News that that nick that Nate Diaz excuse me, has

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Speaker 4: on his way out, Luke, in what balls this man

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Speaker 4: Can we start right there, Luke? Is that realistic? Is that?

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Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit torn on this one, which

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Speaker 3: Like like Ahead, Yeah, yeah, I mean, But BC, let

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Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that what I was told about

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Speaker 3: no foul. You weren't expected to win. But b C,

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Speaker 4: Yeah what harm? You said? No harm, no foul.

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Speaker 4: I'll get to that in a second. But there is

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Speaker 4: I started off by saying, look, just by saying yes

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it. But the thing that you specifically

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Speaker 4: But I think if you're Nate Z and you're that

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Speaker 4: I think he saw a proof of that Gilbert Burns

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Speaker 3: you know this kind of thing and I beat kobeeb

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Speaker 3: And because it was a street fight, I always took

432
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 3: that as Nate kind of being wink wink, nudge, nudge.

433
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: I know that's not true, but it's a great way

434
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 3: to self promote. Now I'm kind of wondering, like, I

435
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 3: get your point that Hamzat fought undisciplined against Burns. But dude,

436
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 3: I think Burns probably hits a lot harder than Nate

437
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: Diaz at one seventy.

438
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Speaker 2: Oh oh, you know what I mean.

439
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 3: Like, for all the flaws that he showed in that

440
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: fight and for all the undisciplined ways in which he fought,

441
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 3: he fought a guy. Yes, Gilberturns fought at one fifty

442
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,199
Speaker 3: five and one seventy, but I would call him a

443
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 3: much more natural one to seventy er. I it's I dude,

444
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, like again, it's not just lost.

445
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 3: He's risking here this fight. He is five rounds. He

446
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 3: could take a a career altering beating here. I don't

447
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: think that's out of the realm possibility, do you no?

448
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 4: And that's the scary part of it. But and that,

449
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, matches what you said earlier about like this

450
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 4: is on brand. This is what the hell this guy does.

451
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 4: He's always done that, so it's not that different to him.

452
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: But I don't rever remember something this weird again, you know,

453
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 4: the situation with the contract, the time between the fact

454
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: that we had such long public soap operas about who

455
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 4: was at fault and why this happened, and yet they

456
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 4: just said ale On, all right, Fitt, We'll do the

457
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 4: Chamaia fight. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So, Luke,

458
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 4: I got to bring up the other part of the

459
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 4: DS brother you know, experience, and granted, this other part

460
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 4: of it tends to circle around Nick in totality and

461
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 4: recentiors more than Nate, which is the bizarre sort of

462
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 4: antics inside the cage, although that's not completely out of

463
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: bounds for Nate to do something wacky. But you know,

464
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people are going, Okay, this is so

465
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: WWE right now to begin with Dana's basically Vince McMahon,

466
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: Nate is Brett hard Montreal screwjob. I've gotten a lot

467
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 4: of dms from fans going, BC, your old school wrestling

468
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 4: heart must be loving this. So in that sort of

469
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 4: pro wrestling veil of looking at it, Luke, a lot

470
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 4: of people are going, Okay, the ultimate Nate Diaz move

471
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: here or Diaz brother move would be to walk in,

472
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 4: flip off Dana White, Kate side lay down and get

473
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 4: tapped out right there and be like fuck off UFC. Now, Luke,

474
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll do that, And that's also like,

475
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 4: you know, they could. Couldn't they take him to court

476
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: for that? I mean that they could withhold this purse.

477
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: There's a lot of other sides to that, Luke, that

478
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: also just as f you to the game. But there's

479
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 4: a softer version of that. Do you remember when Nick

480
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 4: dz vot Yerson Silva and just kind of did Nick

481
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: Diaz stuff and lay down and kind of engage but

482
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: mostly didn't. Is there a scenario in which this could

483
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Speaker 4: turn into that type of fight if it's not Nate

484
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: Diaz flipping the bird and taking a fall and doing

485
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 4: a you know, breaking k fabe. Is there a scenario

486
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Speaker 4: where he goes in there and then just goes, ah,

487
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 4: f you guys, I'll coast to a decision loss. Or

488
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Speaker 4: is this not the opponent to even attempt that with?

489
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Speaker 3: I don't I've seen some folks being like, oh, is

490
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: he gonna go do the bob sap where the bell

491
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: rings and he immediately taps the ground. I don't foresee that.

492
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: I really don't take that seriously. I suppose anything could happen,

493
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Speaker 3: but I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect that. Or who's the boxer?

494
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: I forget who it was where they brought him out

495
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 3: to the ring, they announced him, and then as soon

496
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: as the bell rings, he just walked out right in

497
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: the midad.

498
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the guy fighting fa at Jagba.

499
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, so, I don't foresee that.

500
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Speaker 3: I foresee this Basically, Either Nate surprises I think a

501
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 3: lot of people myself and probably you included, and submits

502
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 3: him or knocks them out or something which is not

503
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Speaker 3: out of the Roman possibility but unlikely I think is

504
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 3: a very charitable way to put it. Or he just

505
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: takes a fucking beating. Man, I'm really kind of worried

506
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Speaker 3: about it. Dude, nay Diez is thirty seven years old. Man,

507
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: how many big fights do you think he honestly has left? Like,

508
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: let's talk about that for a second. How many big

509
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: fights does he really have left? This one? Probably after

510
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 3: this one, if he can get it, if the stars

511
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Speaker 3: a line or whatever. It seems like the Jake Paul fight,

512
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Speaker 3: is there potentially two of those then that thirty seven.

513
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 3: Now he might be like thirty eight thirty nine. By

514
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Speaker 3: that point, there's not a lot of time left for big.

515
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna get Connor again, whether it's at

516
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: the Lava Shack or or BKFC, like they'll fight a

517
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Speaker 4: third time. But I hear your point. This is a

518
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 4: diff this this brings the potential given. Okay, so if

519
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 4: the if the pro wrestling fu is out the window

520
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Speaker 4: and I both agree with you, I don't think he's

521
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Speaker 4: gonna be that recklessly unprofessional. Although a lot of people

522
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Speaker 4: would say, oh, justified and all that because of how

523
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: he was treated. You can argue that as well, but

524
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Speaker 4: it's more likely Luke, given his character, that he's gonna

525
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Speaker 4: go in there and just fight. Like you said, I mean, look,

526
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 4: the odds should be wide. This is a again, a

527
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Speaker 4: weird fight. The reality is Nate should be in the

528
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Speaker 4: senior division fighting other old fated names and they should

529
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 4: celebrate him on the way up. But they don't do that.

530
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Speaker 4: I get that, but that's what it should be. Is

531
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Speaker 4: there a scenario Luke where he can lose but not

532
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Speaker 4: f round but also not get physically dominated because I did. Look,

533
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, I didn't think that last round

534
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 4: Raley against Edwards was was like possible in that scenario.

535
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna lose a one sided fight

536
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 4: in which he may be on the verge of getting

537
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: stopped due to cuts and damage, and although he took

538
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: you know, damage in that fight, he he hung around

539
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 4: and then he was fresh as shit in the final round.

540
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: It like if he pours out what's left to avoid

541
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Speaker 4: getting dominated, and let me like put that in the

542
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: right frame of mind. Whether you think is he may

543
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Speaker 4: have taken his foot off the gas against Anderson Silva

544
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Speaker 4: in that last minute sort of special fight they created,

545
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: or you believe like I do, that Silva just poured

546
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 4: out whatever was left to avoid getting handled and to

547
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: keep himself kind of in that fight. Is there enough

548
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: legend lef left in Nate to pour that out and

549
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 4: use every ounce of what he has to avoid getting

550
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: beat up, Luke? Or is it just is it it's

551
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 4: just different against a guy like this. I know I'm

552
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: kind of asking the same question twice, but but I

553
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to under.

554
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: That scenario where Nate loses but handles himself well enough

555
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 3: where he does didn't get like exceptionally beat up or

556
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: something like that. Yeah, it's possible, but dude, let's just

557
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: talk about the realistic one here. The realistic one you're

558
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: talking about A guy Nate Diaz was a one to

559
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: fifty five or who's now at one seventy. Tamaiva is

560
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: a guy who's probably better at one seventy, but can

561
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: fight quite ably at one eighty five. And he has

562
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, modern control, significantly better wrestling, better athleticism, a

563
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: certain kind of in physical intensity and drive. He probably

564
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: has pretty good submission defense as well. You know, the

565
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: likeliest outcome here is that he puts a fucking beating

566
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: on Nate Daz, and a bad one at that. That's

567
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: the likeliest outcome that what will happen. Your guess is

568
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: as good as mine. But i am I'm like I'm

569
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: saying this, I want to be very clear about this.

570
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: I'm actually a little bit worried about it. I'm a

571
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 3: little bit worried about how ugly this could potentially get. Now,

572
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: if they goes in there and subs him, dude, that

573
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: would be one of the most legendary fucking performances in

574
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: UFC history. To be quite honest with you, that that's

575
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Speaker 3: really what it would be. It would be his historic

576
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: for him to stick it to them in that way.

577
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: But the likelihood of that is not high. The likelihood

578
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: of that is very, very low. And that's what gives

579
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: me some concern.

580
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: All right, you know this ahead, Ok, yeah, you asked

581
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 4: me a question. Let's do it.

582
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: All right, Well, here's the thing. Fifteen years later, it's

583
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: ending like this, you know. And to me, if it

584
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: ends like this fifteen years later, it probably should have

585
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: ended a lot sooner, where both parties basically can't stand

586
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: the other.

587
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: One and one.

588
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: Nate's got whatever his designs are and UFC's got whatever

589
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: their designs are, and now they're just having this ugly

590
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: departure which God only knows what path it will take,

591
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: but probably not a pretty one whichever path it is.

592
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: I have to say, like this should be like a

593
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: wake up call for a lot of the fighters. Listen,

594
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: there are guys who have a relationship with UFC and

595
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: then when they're done, they continue to have one your Ladell's,

596
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: your Forced Griffins, in particular, you're Matt Hughes's.

597
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: Those things are real and they matter.

598
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: But like throughout UFC history, Nate Diaz is not new

599
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: in the sense that there are the Frank Shamrocks and

600
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: the Tim Sylvia's, and you points all of the ones.

601
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: Look at Anderson Silva, one of the maybe the best

602
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: fighter ever look at the departure he had. Now they

603
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: were a little bit kinder to him obviously on the

604
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 3: way out the door, but they didn't really roll out

605
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: the red carpet for him. There wasn't that kind of

606
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: a thing, this kind of acrimony. You know, I wonder

607
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: what lesson you take from this BC. I wonder, after

608
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: fifteen years of the Nate Diaz experience, why it's ending

609
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: with a bang potentially but so poorly in terms of

610
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 3: the relationship between the fighter and the promoter.

611
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: What do you infer from that?

612
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's like even you know, I always talk about

613
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: the have and have nots in the fighter paid discussion

614
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: and the one percent. Once they reach that one percent,

615
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 4: they have no motivation left to ruin it for themselves

616
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: and just they just want to live in that one

617
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: percent and take the money they can get behind the

618
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: scenes and all that. So we always look at it

619
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: as okay, if you can sell that covers up sins.

620
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: Why were we saying, yeah, year should jump Josh Emmett

621
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: in the title, because you can sell. It's a different

622
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: type of marketing claim. This is a situation where somebody

623
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: can sell and yet again they almossed three consecutive years

624
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: after their commercial prime, after beating Connor and fighting Connor

625
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: in an amazing two fight series, he just went away.

626
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: So I think what this does show you is even

627
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: if you can sell and there's times where the company

628
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: can work with you on almost an even level in

629
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: terms of of helping you and helping them, you're still not,

630
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: you know, in the family. But that doesn't really prove

631
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: that point. You can still be kicked out of the family.

632
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: You're still you know, it's still not a blood packed

633
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 4: But like the Daz, this have never really been UFC family.

634
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: So in this regard, Luke, you can't learn Like okay,

635
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: you can learn just in the idea of things that

636
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: you should already be learning by reading the headlines, which is,

637
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: you know, Dana White given that big ass bag to

638
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: the milk boys and basically saying fu fighters, and then

639
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: you know the next day the whole insight on that

640
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: whole court filing and UH or not court filing, but

641
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: you know, the the boosters and the money being raised

642
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: to sort of legally with the UH to fight against

643
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: the potential of unionization and fighter rights. So you should

644
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: already learned all this if you were a fighter but

645
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: at the same time, Luke, the Nate's situation is just

646
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: so unique to begin with. I mean, like his communication

647
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: with the company at certain times in the last five

648
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: years just just completely fell apart, like completely, like nobody

649
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: talking to each other. So it's hard because he never

650
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: because it's been you know, in the Diaz's DNA to

651
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: be lone wolfs and sort of these guys that just

652
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: do things their own way. And credit to both brothers

653
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: they have, but I can't, dude, there's no comparison unless

654
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: you go to Brett Hart versus freaking Sean Michaels in

655
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: the Survivor series that time or whatever in Montreal, like,

656
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: and there's no comparison in modern combat sports where I

657
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: can remember something like this being like this the fear

658
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: we have mixed with how Nate's been handled. So yeah,

659
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: what should other fighters learn? Like you gotta be fighting

660
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 4: for yourself, man, you know what I mean? Like, I'm

661
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: glad that Nate to some degree at least is wanting

662
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: this and welcoming this, because when Nick came back and

663
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: last fought, we heard the postfight interview, it sounded sad

664
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: like you didn't want to be there. This is the

665
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: opposite of that. But this is such a fuck you

666
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: from the UFC that is just ridiculous, Luke. And it

667
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: gives a crazy opportunity for Nate, who's already been getting

668
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: that hero love the past, you know, year and a

669
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: half in his return coming back against Edwards, and I

670
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: love seeing that. How do you think Nate should handle

671
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: this the build of this fight, because, Luke, you don't

672
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: get down on this pro wrestling shit. Nate's not a

673
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 4: huge trash talker unless you provoke him. But how do

674
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: you think he will go out pr wise? And do

675
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 4: you think he should kind of be burning the ship

676
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: down with him as he's getting off of it.

677
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, if the last chapter ends up being,

678
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: however unlikely, I may view it. If it ends up

679
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: being that he submits or knocks out Shamaiah, I mean

680
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: that would be I mean, you want to talk about

681
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: the legend of Nate Diaz. I don't know what on

682
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: earth would be like to make the fair base love you.

683
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: That would be probably top of the list I can

684
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: I cannot think of anything bigger than that.

685
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: They put him. They would put him on the Mount

686
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: Rushmore of most beloved fighters by fans of all time.

687
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 4: That probably includes Chuck Ladell, Randy Cotur, you know, like

688
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: Anderson at the very top. I mean like it would be,

689
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: it would be. We would never have seen an equivalent

690
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: of that too, Luke, although Randy de Katour had some

691
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: of those few moments, but they weren't as blatant, you

692
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

693
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean honestly to me, like Nate Diaz will

694
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: probably you know, we'll see what happens with this fight,

695
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: he'll get out of it. I do think he'll eventually

696
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: fight Jake Paul and make probably good money. Maybe two

697
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: of those fights will have to see. But the lesson

698
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I take from all of this is that, yeah, there

699
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: is a cost in MMA too. Like you were saying,

700
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: you have to advocate for yourself. I actually I agree.

701
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: But this is why a lot of fighters don't, right

702
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: they This is why they don't because there actually is

703
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: a cost to it. You know, Francis Andnganu may finally

704
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: get a chance to work around it. But these contracts

705
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: since twenty seventeen where they put sunset clauses in was

706
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: only a function of the response to the law lawsuit

707
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: and some of the bad press they were getting.

708
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: So that helped them, but short of that, he would

709
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: be basically stuck.

710
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: Nate Diaz having to have all the acrimony that he's

711
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: had with a promoter from for various points in his

712
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: career to this day where he has to go out

713
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: fighting this fucking boogeyman on his way out the door,

714
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: whether he requested it or not. Or you know, look

715
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: at Randy Gator, who has been basically iced out of

716
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: UFC history, or Frank Shamrock or Tim Sylvia and the

717
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: list goes on and on and on. From there, you

718
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: want to take care of yourself in separation to the brand.

719
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: There's going to be a tax to pay. There is

720
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: no free lunch, and the.

721
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: Question is how big is the tax and how much

722
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: does it affect your future from there on. I guess

723
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: we'll have to see what the answer to that is.

724
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: But you can see why fighters cozy up to the brand.

725
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: You can see why they're Stockholm syndrome, because only a

726
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: few can actually make use of cozying up to the brand,

727
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: and sometimes.

728
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: They can make good use of that.

729
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: But the reality is it's very safe relative to the

730
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: riskiness of the waters where you go out on your own,

731
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: because even the mighty Nate Diaz, who in his last

732
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: fight is headlining without a title, is still getting shown

733
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: the door in one of the ugliest ways I think

734
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in all of MMA, and it's.

735
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: It is in some way similar to like what you

736
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: and I could go through. You know, you can be

737
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: a company man because you suddenly work for a big company,

738
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: but you also got to be a you know, protector

739
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: of what you're trying to do there. But yeah, the risk,

740
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: the risk is high, and that's why you don't see

741
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 4: guys do it more. Because if you're the opposite of that,

742
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: if you're a DC and you stay with the family,

743
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: you could have a job for life. You could be

744
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: an ambassador, a broadcaster, a trainer in the PI. I mean,

745
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: you could be part of the family forever. So it's

746
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: certainly not for everybody. There is a way to become

747
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: that one percent and then ride that gravy train and

748
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: look back and say all the hard work and blood,

749
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: sweat and tears was worth it. But it is nero

750
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: that hallway at the end, and it is hard to

751
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: get in there. Luke maybe in a close on this,

752
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: but let's compare balls, at least in a fair way

753
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: when Randy Catur was the heavyweight champion yet amid his

754
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: own own you know, battle with the company, and then

755
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: comes back at that agent fights brock Lesler. That was

756
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: just some kind of balls although it wasn't his exit

757
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: with the company, it was there's some similarities. There is

758
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: this a more ballsier move what Nate's doing compared to

759
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: what Randy did.

760
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, significantly. I mean brock had the title.

761
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: CHAMAIAV has nothing, right, I mean he's got a lot

762
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: of cash.

763
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: Randy had the title. Randy had the title, So.

764
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: What am I saying? But it was for the title.

765
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: It was there was a belt on the line, right,

766
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: This was a big bout and that was the time

767
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: ESPN was really leaning into it. Before ESPN ever really

768
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: leaned into it, there was there was big stakes involved

769
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: and brock Lesner was the biggest name in the sport.

770
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: Now Tamaiah was one of the biggest ones. But I

771
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: would actually argue Nadez might be more popular. They're both

772
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: pretty admirable. And then of course, you know, Randy was

773
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: fighting a guy much bigger than him, although you know,

774
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: Nate is I think fighting.

775
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: A guy probably naturally larger and stronger than him.

776
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: Too, But dude, this is you know, look at the

777
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: odds from the original Randy and Brock fi. I bet

778
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: you these are much wider than those. I mean, I

779
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: think that kind of tells you. Nate has asked for

780
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: probably arguably the most difficult exit imaginable short of a

781
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: title shot against Kumaru, and even this one might be

782
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: more difficult depending on style, matchups and everything. This is

783
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: a hard fight to win. It's going to be a

784
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: rough exit, and even if he gets the dub, he's probably.

785
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: Not going to get it very easily.

786
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: I have a good, enormous, enormous respect for what he

787
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: is attempting here.

788
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: And I'm shocked this is the pay per view main event.

789
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: I'm actually happy because I think there's there's much more

790
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 4: room for non title pay per view five round main

791
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: events that are just great matchups. You know, remember Rashod

792
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 4: versus Rampage as a perfect example of that. And I

793
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: love to see this, But I'm shocked that they're giving

794
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: Nate pay per view status here. I'm shocked that they're

795
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: giving this fight, which we have, you know, I mean,

796
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: it could look really bad in the end, five round

797
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: pay per view status. I mean it's the ultimate ringing

798
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: of what they feel is left of Diaz's brand on

799
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: the way out to get the most of it. But

800
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 4: it also puts in the show case. Okay, if we're

801
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: going to use this matchup as a company for the

802
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: reason why we're making it to rub off a guy

803
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: leaving and put it on a guy risen dude, giving

804
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: Hamzat Chimaya of a non title pay per view main

805
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: event before he ever fought for the title against Nay

806
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: Diaz kind of tells you what they believe they can

807
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: do with him moving forward, Luke, No question about.

808
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: That, No question about that at all. All right, let's

809
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: move on to the second part of the topic, or

810
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: actually topic number two. These were initially going to be paired.

811
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Now they're going to be a little bit separate. So

812
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: Al Jamain Sterling. It looks like this was originally reported

813
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: by I think Kevin and e Oli of Yahoo's Sports.

814
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: They were originally going to put it at UFC two

815
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: seventy nine. Now it's going to be to eighty, which

816
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: will be October twenty second in Abu Dhabi. Al Jamain

817
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: Sterling is going to defend his bantamway title against TJ.

818
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: Dillashaw.

819
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: The main event, of course, will be Charles Olivera taking

820
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: on Islam Makhachev.

821
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: Now BC, I saw some consternation.

822
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: About Sterling kind of always being in co main events,

823
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: and I understand that. I thought, especially after his fight

824
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: against Yahan, where he moved a lot of people wrong,

825
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: that he deserved to be, you know, taken, just respected

826
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: a lot more, given a little bit more, not just

827
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: verbally with saying nice things, but treated a little bit

828
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: differently by the promotion and by the fan base and

829
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: by the media as well. Here he is still in

830
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: the comin event role. However, let me give you a

831
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: little bit of a nugget. I have it on pretty

832
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: decent authority that, for example, I saw some folks battering

833
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: Izzy because that's what folks love to do in the

834
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: MMA fan base. That UFC two seventy six didn't sell

835
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: about four hundred k. My understanding is there isn't a

836
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: pay per view this year that has sold more than

837
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: four hundred k, which means no headliner has done that.

838
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: And Sterling certainly is an incredibly decorated and very very

839
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: good champion, but hasn't proven to be a sales draw

840
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: in that way. Certainly not over the one p fifty

841
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: five guys who would be bigger anyway, so they would

842
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: get that slot. Plus it's for a title, so I

843
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: kind of understand it. So your reaction to Sterling versus

844
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: Dilla Shaw October twenty second, Comaine.

845
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 4: My reaction, first of all, is this is one damn

846
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: fine doubleheader atop this card. I mean, Luke, you know,

847
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: these are two of the best fights I want to

848
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: see right now in the entire sport. So to your

849
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: point about maybe them not giving out Joe the boost

850
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: that he deserves, and I think a lot of us

851
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: in the media and critical fans came back around if, however,

852
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: we dogged him of his handling of that d Q,

853
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: the way he went back and straight up beat Yan

854
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: and the rematch and is now your champion. Yeah, he

855
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: deserves a chance to stretch out and be who he

856
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: could be and find out how big his brand could be.

857
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: So if there was gonna be a matchup where it

858
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: would make sense to give him that pay per view

859
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: headlining role fighting the former champion and Dila Shaw, I

860
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: would think would be that, But I don't. But this

861
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: being one more time a comin event at the same time, Luke,

862
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem to me as as like a backhanded slap.

863
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: I mean, Mahachev is in Abu Dhabi for a reason

864
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: in terms of trying to capitalize on that fan base

865
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: and that fight as the main event it is, it

866
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 4: just feels a little bit more prestigious to me, even

867
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: with former champion Dillashaw coming back in there. There's just

868
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: a there's a feeling for me in that main event

869
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 4: that we could you know, storyline wise, this could be

870
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 4: the dawn of Habib two point zero, Habib's you know,

871
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: protege taking over, or it could just be another amazing

872
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: stamp on the all action passport of Charles Olivera. So

873
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm okay that they're loading this up for the fans.

874
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean, these are two main events, you know, for

875
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: the price of want here, and I'm so damn fired

876
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: up for this fight Sterling versus Dilla. Shaw I got questions,

877
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: as whatever anybody about TJ's age and injury. It's been

878
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 4: a while since he beat san Jagan in that disputed fight.

879
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: But this is this is great gives men be great theater, Luke,

880
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: this is great matchmaking. This is a great night at

881
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: the Fights you know, the fan of me, very giddy

882
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: right now, talk me down, Luke, try to shit on,

883
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: try to shit on my Taichi palace.

884
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Please, seriously, if I had to ask you give me

885
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: a UFC card where you put the two best title

886
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: fights imaginable together, this would I'm not saying this is

887
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: the only answer, but this would be one of the

888
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: top answers, the very best at one fifty five in

889
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: this case, Charles Olavera, the reborn version against this guy

890
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: who's been on an incredible run in Islam, Makachev at

891
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: one fifty five. Okay, that's the one you could do.

892
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: And then the guys in charge of bansamway, the existing

893
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: champion and the former champion who, by the way, never

894
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: had the title taken from him other than by administrative policy,

895
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: not by actually what happened in the cage. Those are

896
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: the two you're going to pair together. It does there's

897
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: not many pairings you could do better than that. That

898
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: is one of the more optimal ones that could even

899
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: permutations that could even exist. And in the case of

900
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: a guy like al Jabn Sterling for folks who might

901
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: be upset that he is constantly in co main event roles,

902
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: I understand it. I get the notion that he's entitled

903
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: to respect, but I also get the idea that the

904
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: UFC is not selling pay per views this year in

905
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: the way that folks might have naturally assumed, or they

906
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: were during the pandemic, the bigger stages.

907
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Of the pandemic anyway.

908
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: And so you put this in the co main event

909
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: role against a guy like dill Shaw, who does have

910
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: some popularity, who does bring some controversy, who I think

911
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: if a guy Exterling can beat him, it raises his

912
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: profile even more. You put him on a card, whether

913
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: it's this one to fifty five, just assassins above him.

914
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: This is a great, great scenario. This is what you

915
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: want is this is the This is the wagyu beef

916
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: cooked medium rare right here delivered to you. If you're

917
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: a fight fan, and these two fights hold seriously, and I.

918
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Mean this genuinely.

919
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: I don't even give a flying fuck what comes before it.

920
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: These two fights alone are worth the price of admission.

921
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: They're the very best in many cases that MMA even

922
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: has to offer. The complaints here should, in my judgment,

923
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: be fairly minimal.

924
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 4: Looks like you can even put local government propaganda films

925
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: on the undercard. I'm okay with that. Give me these two.

926
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: In fact, Luke, let's be fair here. You know, I'd

927
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: sort of thrown out the idea last show. Should there

928
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: be majors? Are there major pay per views in the UFC?

929
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: I think this kind of cements what is now kind

930
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: of becoming a thing every fall going to Abu Dhabi.

931
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: Obviously during the pandemic there were key parts where that

932
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: was the only and they stayed there for a while.

933
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: But you want to talk about majors right now? International

934
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: Fight Week, first weekend of July, the December Vegas card,

935
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: which used to be New Year's Eve. Now I like

936
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: it a little bit better. Second weekend in December, Madison

937
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: Square Garden in November. But Luke, put this one right there.

938
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: Put this one right there. That's your fourth major Abu Dhabi.

939
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: This main and comaane mixed together. That's as major as

940
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 4: it gets in Luke. When we talk about great old

941
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: guy wins, right or old fighter wins. When we talk

942
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: about you know, thirty four year old Devison Figuredo coming

943
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: back to stop the guy who just stopped him in

944
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: Moreno and winning the title back. When we talk about

945
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: you know Glover teshera winning Michael bisbeing winning TJ. Dillshaw

946
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: comes back and wins the belt against this version of

947
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: al Jabiner Sterling in this fight. I know there are

948
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 4: legitimate reasons to use the words peds Luke when you're

949
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: talking about this guy over history. Yes, there's legitimate reasons.

950
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: But that'd be some heroic shit for a guy who

951
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: gets looked at as a villain. And I think he

952
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: likes that, by the way, But dude, that's some hero

953
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: move right there, Luke. Okay, that'd be a win, brother,

954
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: That'd be a big ass win.

955
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: I think either way, it's a huge win for a

956
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: guy like Sterling. This would be you know, you've beaten

957
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: Sandhagen Yan and then Dila Shaw. Jesus, that is an

958
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: incredible run through what it would do for your brand

959
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: and everything else in credibility. Then on top of it,

960
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: if you're if you're Dila Shaw, to have never lost

961
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: the title, had the PD stuff, you have to lose

962
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: two years of your career. You come back at thirty five,

963
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: you have a grueling fight against Sandhagen, and then you

964
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: go and you beat Sterling in.

965
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: Back to back fights.

966
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: We mean insane levels of redemption and either way, Dude,

967
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: I know that that Henry Sujudo is out there calling

968
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: for the Volkanovsky fight, which I have less than zero

969
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: interest in. But I do have a shit ton of

970
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: interest in the winner of this fight taking on triple seed.

971
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: I think Sahudo versus Dila Shaw one thirty five or

972
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: Sahudo versus Sterling obviously at one thirty five, those are

973
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: the fights I care a lot about, and I think

974
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: he's competitive in both.

975
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: Do you agree?

976
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree with that. I love that matchmaking.

977
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: I think we've all agree on this cringe of shit. Yeah,

978
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: he wants to do big things to hudo, like fight

979
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: Connor or fight you know, uh, the Volkanowski as you mentioned,

980
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: But him against any of these elite bandam weights Luke

981
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 4: right now, or even the old guy bandam weights, like

982
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: I want to see it. I want to see he

983
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: Andry s who'll come back and fight three times in

984
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: a year. I mean, he's great for this division. He's

985
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 4: a great fighter who has done some all time stuff. Luke.

986
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: It is hard to exactly at this point because the

987
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: batch has been small to try to frame history around it,

988
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: you know. But yet he's also a two division champion,

989
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: whether you like it or not. And uh, dude, I

990
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: could sit here and just read off matchups in multiple weights.

991
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: I want to see this guy in. But if the

992
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: UFC is smart, which they seem to be, they're gonna

993
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: make him come back and earn it the hard way

994
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: at VANDAM weight if he does want to Luke, so

995
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: yeah him against him against Yeah, I'm him Againstill show

996
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 4: would be insane theater. Lukeme on, poor Luke. I.

997
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: You know what I don't like when like.

998
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: When like like you know, housewives and soccer moms, you know,

999
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: when they're like driving or they're at the supermarket or

1000
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: whatever and like or a party outside in the summer

1001
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: and then like pour some Sugar on It comes on

1002
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: by def Leppard, right, and they're just like, ah, this

1003
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 4: was my song back when I was loose and free, Luke.

1004
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: And then they're just like you know, and they're just

1005
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: like normal, like well put together, well moraled moms who

1006
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: just lose it all in the moment when they hear

1007
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: that opening guitar riff Luke in that one handed drum beat,

1008
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 4: and then you know, they sing the chorus wildly and

1009
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: outwardly Luke, they have no idea what they're actually in

1010
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: Figy welcoming onto them, Luke, do you know what I mean?

1011
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: No?

1012
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I had a much longer point, Luke.

1013
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: We would have gone down some roads, got off a

1014
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: couple of exits, took a detour, and come back. But

1015
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 4: you know what, it would have slayed if you didn't

1016
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: know sell it your way would a slay. I'm telling

1017
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: you what I'm telling you. It was perilous. I was.

1018
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: I was tiptoeing, Luke. I could have fell in at

1019
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: any point, but I think it would have slayed. Just

1020
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm thinking Next next MK, Doc Luke,

1021
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: what about.

1022
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: Which is apparently never getting made?

1023
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: If we can get Doc seven in production, if we

1024
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: can get Jake to get paid to do it? Here

1025
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: a lot of by the way, like Magic Johnson on

1026
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: the ninety one Lakers when he told management, if you

1027
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: go sign Terry Teegle from the Warriors, I'll pay for

1028
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: his salary out of my deal because he wanted to

1029
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: win so bad. I did tell Showtime, I'll pay for

1030
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 4: Jake's hours to build the stock.

1031
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you say that. Actually I don't want them

1032
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: to take my money, But yes, they how.

1033
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 4: About Doc seven. A lot of people making runs at

1034
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 4: that mic these days, at that stage, Luke, just just

1035
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: going up and taking their swing. I just I was

1036
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: watching snippets of Andrew Schultz's comedy special. It was fantastic, Luke.

1037
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: A lot of people making that transition these days, like

1038
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 4: NBA players making rap albums in the nineties. Right, what

1039
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: about your boy BC? Just just putting together like a

1040
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: tight ten, right, like a tight ass ten something.

1041
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: I can work with a business card. As I understand

1042
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: it is, you got to have a tight five ten.

1043
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: You can't do ten, you could maybe do five.

1044
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: I'm ambitious. I'm ambitious, Luke. And what if I just say,

1045
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't know what it's gonna look like.

1046
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: It could it could be set on fire, It could

1047
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 4: be you know, it could be like like Heraldo opening

1048
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: the vault. You know, capone there and there's nothing.

1049
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: Luke.

1050
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 4: I may have nothing for this game, but do I

1051
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: have the balls to try it one time?

1052
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 5: Luke?

1053
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1054
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 5: Do you know?

1055
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: Luke, I'm a gun slinger at the end of the day.

1056
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, that's why I wear this wild head

1057
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: of hair. Luke I only get one one trip around

1058
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: this globe. All right, don't underestimate, don't ever, Luke, don't

1059
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: ever fucking underestimate me at any point, Luke, I will

1060
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 4: I will cut I will slice your throat.

1061
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: Luke.

1062
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a little much, but you know I understand

1063
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: your enthusiasm. All right, let's go to topic number three, BC.

1064
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: How about the fights this weekend? How about the fights

1065
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: this weekend? The UFC is back in London with a

1066
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: heavyweight main event, one of the most consequential ones in

1067
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: some time. If you thought Cyril Gone was gonna be

1068
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: the next heavyweight champion like I did, well you were wrong,

1069
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: although he could still be one. There's another gentleman from

1070
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: the Liverpool side of things who is knocking on that door,

1071
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: Tom Aspinall, who will be the hometown guy, so to speak.

1072
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Were take it on Curtis Blades BC, We'll start there.

1073
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: How high are you on Tom Aspinall? And what would

1074
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: you say if he goes out there and not just

1075
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 3: beats Curtis Blades, but like beats him like a drum,

1076
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: like makes it look easy?

1077
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: What would you say?

1078
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: I'd say I was wrong? First of all? How high

1079
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: am I?

1080
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 5: Right?

1081
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: Now, Luke, well, that's probably an another topic to debate

1082
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: at any point. How high am I on Tom Aspinall,

1083
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: though a lot higher than I originally was. You know,

1084
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 4: I thought that was gonna be the night he got

1085
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 4: humbled against Alexander Volkov where we go, Okay, bright guy

1086
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: for the future, Love the youth and energy that him

1087
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: and ty Too Ivasa bring to this division. But you know,

1088
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 4: not of that ILK yet, Luke. He he may be

1089
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: of that ILK right frickin' now. So it's not just

1090
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: how quickly he submitted Volkoff and passed that test. It

1091
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: is retroactively going back and kind of picking apart what

1092
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: I missed and I thought, Luke. Actually, Tom Aspinall said

1093
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: it best this week at the media day ahead of

1094
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 4: this fight at the O two in London, which is

1095
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: a you know, obvious big deal locally they slayed just

1096
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: a few months ago last time they were there with

1097
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: with Molly Meatball and Patty and all that and Tom Aspinall,

1098
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: but he said, you know what separates me is my speed,

1099
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: but my in the moment decision making, and certainly these

1100
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: are topics. We'd love to talk about him, and we

1101
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: have him on later in the show today people, so

1102
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: don't miss out on this. But Luke, there is sort

1103
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: of this under the layer intangible side to him that

1104
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: that that there's an IQ that's that's not your average

1105
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: Barrett heavyweight in there, and you mix that with being

1106
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 4: six or five and being quicker than he looks and

1107
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: you know, having a heart and desire and all that. No,

1108
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: he hasn't answered every single question. We're gonna have him, No,

1109
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: but there's there's something more special underneath those houses, handmade

1110
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: tattoos there, Luke, then maybe even my casual naked eye

1111
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: could realize. So if he goes out there and has

1112
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 4: the same level of one sided success again, it's a

1113
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: guy that nobody does unless you have through the roof

1114
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: next level and Ghanu Derek Lewis level power, which is

1115
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: Curtis Blades, who is the class of the He's gonna

1116
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: go He's gonna end up be in the class of

1117
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: this division for a decade. Curtis Blades, he's that good.

1118
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll ever get over the hump,

1119
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 4: I hope, but he's that good. He makes him look

1120
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: like he made Volkov look like Luke, Dude, I'm gonna

1121
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 4: restructure the title picture and who I want to see

1122
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: fight for the belt next, Like, this guy's coming the

1123
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: hell on, Luke. And while Tui Vasa got there with

1124
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: balls and the right matchup and the right punch at

1125
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: the right time, this guy is ahead of his time

1126
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 4: in terms of the experience he actually has, with the

1127
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: skill that he's flaunting and showing. I can't wait to

1128
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 4: see how good he actually is, Luke. And I'm happy

1129
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: to say that up to this point at least I

1130
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: was wrong. And now I want to find out where

1131
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: does that extend. Where's the limits to what this guy

1132
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: can do it? Because if somebody's gonna make you look

1133
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 4: bad for five rounds Curtis plays, he'll do that. He'll

1134
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: do that to you, Luke. Yes, this is this is

1135
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: this is a great ass fight come Saturday afternoon. I'm

1136
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: fired up.

1137
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: I'll say this.

1138
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: I you know, in talking to some folks in the

1139
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: British MMA side of things, you get a real clear

1140
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: sense that the departure of Bisping has created a well

1141
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he has a competitive fighter, Obviously he's

1142
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: still commentating and still quite active. But in terms of

1143
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: like that fighter that could lead the market since the

1144
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: departure of Michael Bisping. There just really hasn't exactly been that.

1145
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: Darn Till was kind of that guy for a little while,

1146
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 3: but that hasn't really worked out. And there's a ton

1147
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: of very good fighters like you're Arnold Allen's for example,

1148
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: but he hasn't quite fully gotten there yet either, even

1149
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: though he's done very well for himself. There are I

1150
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: think a lot of hopes, a lot of fingers crossed,

1151
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: a lot of knocks on woods or knocking on wood

1152
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: that Aspinall is that guy that Aspinall could actually be

1153
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: that guy who can be the torch bearer for that market,

1154
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: the very best one that they have potentially a champion,

1155
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: the one that that you know, the UK could really

1156
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: rally around. To me, you know, Aspaitall, when you hear

1157
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 3: him talk, he's like, I don't really want to be rushed.

1158
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: I want to take my time. I want to work

1159
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 3: on this, I want to work on that. But dude,

1160
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: the reality is this Gon had his shot against Francis.

1161
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: I do think he'll beat taitoy Vasa, which kind of

1162
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: keeps him relevant. But you know, you know, I think

1163
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: if you beat Curtis Blades, which of course he may not,

1164
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: but let's say he does. If you beat Curtis Blades,

1165
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 3: you probably should fight for a title. There's not many

1166
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: guys above Curtis Blades, right Like, Curtis Blades, given his

1167
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: style matchup, could very well beat Gon, not on the

1168
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: feet necessarily, but what we saw with his with Gon's

1169
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: ground game against Francis, why couldn't Curtis Blades do that.

1170
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: He could easily do something like that, at least relative

1171
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: to what Francis's grappling abilities are. I'm going to say

1172
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 3: of the two, Curtis Blades is a significantly better wrestler

1173
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: than Francis and Gon who and can maintain top control.

1174
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: We've seen that, so you would imagine like I would

1175
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: probably favor Curtis Blades to win that one depending on

1176
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: how we fought. If you can beat Curtis Blades now

1177
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: and what I think will be his fifteenth MMA fight, dude,

1178
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna push him to the front of the line,

1179
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: whether he's ready or not, or whether he wants that

1180
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: opportunity or not. To me, what this is about is

1181
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 3: the UFC really really really.

1182
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: Wants the next Michael Bisping.

1183
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: Tom aspinall looks BC looks like he could be that

1184
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: we'll have to see on Saturday.

1185
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is getting exciting, and it's like, what is

1186
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 4: the potent if he blows through Blades And by the way,

1187
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: maybe the real I've always loved Blades. I think he's

1188
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: gonna fight for a title. I think he can be

1189
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 4: a champion. I don't know if it'll work out for him.

1190
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: We'll see. But there's like.

1191
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 4: An elite version of Blades, when the confidence, when everything's right,

1192
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 4: when everything's right, there's a version of Blades's the striker

1193
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: Luke that you know, he's not as dangerous on the

1194
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 4: feet as he is on the ground in terms of

1195
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: controlling a fight and winning it. But when he believes

1196
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 4: in that offense. Now there's times he's gone in there

1197
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: and the times we've seen him get finished viciously. You know,

1198
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 4: he may have walked into that night believing in that offense,

1199
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 4: but there is a he can't always be consistent with it,

1200
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: but if he can activate that next level, you know,

1201
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: this is again, like you said, as hard of a

1202
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: matchup in this division as you can find. So that's

1203
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: why you have to reorder your title picture. If Aspinall

1204
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: blows through blades, and what's the worst case scenario that

1205
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: they give him steepe at like Wembley Arena. That might

1206
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: be the worst case scenario, Luke, you know what I mean,

1207
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 4: because we don't really know as John gonna come back

1208
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 4: and fight Stepe for the interim or is the UFC

1209
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 4: just saying, well, we've waited this long. If we have

1210
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 4: to wait a few more months and do Johnson gano

1211
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 4: in a damn you know, Las Vegas Dome, I mean,

1212
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 4: that's a that's a massive fight, dude. You could see

1213
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 4: something like aspinag on the steep A level after this.

1214
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: There's no one else to fight after this. If he

1215
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: wins it, there's no you know, there's no one else

1216
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: unless unless tuy Vasa Upset's gone, there's nobody else.

1217
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: Luke.

1218
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the John Jones factor is sort of looming

1219
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 3: out there, right, like what if he First of all,

1220
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: I don't even if he's ever gonna come back. I mean,

1221
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: they keep saying he's gonna come back.

1222
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: He might.

1223
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: I guess we'll see, but even then we'll have to

1224
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: see what he looks like. But okay, but at least

1225
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: in theory, you have to take that possibility seriously, you

1226
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: have to at least consider that he could come back.

1227
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, dude, Like, you know, I think,

1228
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: if I want to be very clear here, Blades is

1229
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: a very very good fighter there. If Aspodall loses, this

1230
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: is hardly him blowing up the dreams of the UK

1231
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: market having their Michael Bisping two point zero because this

1232
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 3: would be just his fifteenth UFC or fifteenth MMA fight.

1233
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: You know, he has time to get better. I still

1234
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: am very high on Tom Aspinall win or lose. I

1235
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: just feel like if he wins, he's gonna get fast tracked.

1236
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: And that's the beginning end of that story. But I

1237
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: forgot what was gonna say. Oh yeah, but John Jones.

1238
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: John Jones is kind of that one out there where

1239
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: you're like, how does he slot in at any time?

1240
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: And what's it gonna be and and everything else out there.

1241
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: But dude, Curtis Blaze, we're not really talking about him BC.

1242
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Curtis Blades. Okay, he lost to Derek Lewis,

1243
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: and you know, he lost ve badly to Derek Lewis,

1244
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 3: But in general, man, he beats everyone who isn't a champion.

1245
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 3: In general, in general, that's who he beats. This is

1246
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: a hell of a test for Tom Aspinall. That's why

1247
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: I think it's so consequential. If you can beat Curtis

1248
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 3: Blaze and you can do it soundly, there's nothing really left.

1249
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: That's it. You're you're ready to go.

1250
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: Look, do you believe when you talk about what makes

1251
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: Aspinall special? That was hitting his own word, saying the

1252
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: decision making I can you know, I can think quicker

1253
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: than people and just be there and it helps when

1254
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 4: you're six five jacked and also quick at that size.

1255
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 4: So he's got a lot going for him. But do

1256
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: you see that that there's It does kind of make

1257
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 4: it hard to put a ceiling on him because there's

1258
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: that extra sprinkle magic on him. Like I don't know

1259
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: how to fully put it into words.

1260
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 5: But.

1261
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: I got I got to ask this.

1262
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 3: I got to ask this earlier in the week by someone

1263
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: and their basic point was like, what is it about it?

1264
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, it's He's not like Volkanovsky in

1265
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 3: the sense that you know, Volkanovsky went three rounds against Aldo,

1266
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: he went fifteen rounds against Holloway. He went one of

1267
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: those of the However, many I think the rticified go

1268
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 3: the distance.

1269
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, I.

1270
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: Can't remember anymore, but you know, you get the idea,

1271
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: like these fights have gone long, so there's a ton

1272
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: of tape on him, and at that point you can

1273
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: begin to like pinpoint exactly what's happening with aspinall this

1274
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: fucker has seen the second round in the UFC once,

1275
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: has never seen the third round. Ever, there's not a

1276
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: ton of tapes. So you're at your question, I think

1277
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 3: is actually really well intentioned.

1278
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: You're right.

1279
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: The athleticism is big. I'll read his stats on Friday.

1280
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: They're mind bogglingly good, Like you cannot fucking believe how

1281
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: good they are. But the better point is, like, hey,

1282
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: the fact that he makes short work of everyone is

1283
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: sort of one. The accumulation of that is kind of big.

1284
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: But you're right, it is the decision making, dude. He

1285
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: makes great choices. He makes great choices from a game

1286
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 3: planning standpoint. He makes great choices in the middle of

1287
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: a fight, and then he's got the athleticism to bring

1288
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: that to bear.

1289
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: So the fight's really calm bite i q hi.

1290
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 4: He fights, it's not like he fights really calm. Okay,

1291
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: that's accurate to say, you know, for a fighter with

1292
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: what six UFC fights, like you said, never been past

1293
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: the second round. But it's like it's not like a

1294
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: misplaced over confident. It's just like, I'm really comfortable in here,

1295
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Luke, And I know that

1296
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: that it's like, okay, that's what that's anyone on the

1297
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: elite level. But he seems really, really, really comfortable in there,

1298
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: is really what I'm saying. So when you have also

1299
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: speed advantages and you can make those quick decisions, he

1300
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: doesn't look worried at all about what's coming at him,

1301
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: and I think that's allowed him to make some of

1302
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: these quick endings. But uh, like anyone else, love to

1303
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: see him in a five round banger and see what's

1304
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: really under the hood, Luke. But you know the interviews,

1305
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: I think he's in a humble spot. You're right. You

1306
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 4: would think somebody with the sixth success he had and

1307
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: how close he seems to be from really cashing in

1308
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: on that success, might say, if it, let's get John

1309
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Jones next, Let's get Francis next, let you know, f

1310
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: everybody else. But like no, he's really like, no, I'm

1311
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: the one who knows I need more work and I'm

1312
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna

1313
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 4: get there. It's like, damn, that's that's maturity, Luke. But

1314
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: it's like different. It's like I know there's a secret,

1315
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,479
Speaker 4: and I know it and you guys will find it out,

1316
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: but like I don't care to tell you about it.

1317
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: Just watch, you know, on the balls Cardce, Do you

1318
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: have any strong feelings? It was supposed to be Darren

1319
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: till he's now out Curtis, Chris Curtis takes his place.

1320
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: Jack Hermanson versus Chris Curtis. It's a fine fight. It's

1321
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: actually a really cool storyline, especially for Curtis, who won

1322
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: on the Contender series, didn't get a contract nearly or

1323
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: did retire, kind of came back, had some ho hump

1324
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: performances in PFL, and has been on a pretty decent

1325
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: run in UFC against Jack her Manson, who tasted the top,

1326
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: found himself wanting but still wants to do relevant work.

1327
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: Do you have a strong opinion about this one?

1328
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: Entertainment wise, I'm into it. I don't think her Manson's

1329
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 4: completely done either in terms of you know, putting Win

1330
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 4: Street together and doing some stuff He's been underrated at times.

1331
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: He's had some rough endings, but this is a good

1332
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: fight as well for him. You know, you got to

1333
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: like his chances more. But yeah, Luke, I'm romote, romantically

1334
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: engaged into the into the Curtis action opportunity storyline just

1335
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: the same. So I like that bit of theater and

1336
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 4: I think that it's it's another piece of fruit in

1337
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 4: this basket. You know you're gonna get the Patty pimblet

1338
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: fan reaction and is the guy for real? And can

1339
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: Jordan Levitt expose him? Or do we have something here?

1340
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: Just the same with Molly meat Pall. I mean there's intention, Luke,

1341
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 4: of aspinall, which you're right in saying. Everyone seems to

1342
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: look through the bunch and say, Okay, this guy has

1343
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: the quickest path potentially to a title, to become a thing.

1344
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: But they keep putting Patty and Molly their little life

1345
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: podcast around him, Luke and in orbit, And I know

1346
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 4: there's other storylines, and there's Paul Craig and there's Gustus

1347
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: and all that, but uh, all together, I'm really excited.

1348
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 4: And it's an afternoon East Coast time start, So what

1349
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: is it? Luke? Three pm? The main is it.

1350
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me, but I

1351
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: believe that's right.

1352
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: How good does that feel, Luke? You know those West

1353
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: Coast people that brag about watching the NFL and their

1354
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: pajamas when they wake up, you know, and we're like,

1355
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 4: we have no idea what you're talking about. I got

1356
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 4: to go to church first, and you know, mow the

1357
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: lawn and you know, I got a lot going on

1358
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 4: before that. Don't want I want to I want to

1359
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: live a life, Luke, where the fights are on in

1360
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 4: the afternoon. How do we get there? I have to move,

1361
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: is that what you're saying.

1362
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: I think you have to move? Yeah, BC. So let's

1363
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: talk about this one very quickly.

1364
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: The clothes on the fight night card Patty Pimblet taken

1365
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: on Jordan Levitt. Jordan Levitt, I think ten in one

1366
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: in UFC Patty Pimblet with two fights in uf seen undefeated.

1367
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: Pimblet makes a big splash. The fans love him, in

1368
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: particularly the UK fans think very highly of him. He's

1369
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: got a unique look, he's got a unique way of talking.

1370
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 3: He does have a pretty good ground game. He has

1371
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: a lot of good experience from Cage Warriors, but he

1372
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: gets he gets his bell rung a lot. His defensive

1373
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: striking a bit of an issue. Jordan Levitt not so

1374
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: much a threat in that ballpark a grappler.

1375
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Do you like this matchmaking?

1376
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: I actually do, because this is one where Pimblet could lose,

1377
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: but also one where you could see him with the

1378
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: right intensity easily winning. In other words, you don't have

1379
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: to worry about Pimblets striking so much in this one.

1380
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: It's a grappling focused kind of fight, and Levitt is

1381
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: actually good enough to win, but he's not so much

1382
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: a threat that it's like, oh, well, what's Pimblet really

1383
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: going to do here? It's pretty competitive for those reasons.

1384
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: I kind of like it.

1385
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: What about you?

1386
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good matchmaking, and we have

1387
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 4: to just understand what the UFC really has with Patty,

1388
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, forget Aspinov's title, you know, aspirations

1389
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: and possibilities, which would be the face of the UK

1390
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 4: movement at the moment, Like you mentioned, this guy could

1391
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: just lap that in terms of the star potential. But yeah,

1392
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm with you and a lot of people of what

1393
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: I've seen, I'm certainly not convinced it is great theater, Luke,

1394
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily so far in left field like O'Malley's

1395
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: character at the moment where the forty three and a

1396
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 4: nine tens year old me is just like, I don't

1397
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 4: get it. That's cool, go ahead, I get Patty. I

1398
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 4: don't love it, but I'm entertained, Luke, I don't always

1399
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: love it, but I'm pretty entertained. I mean, he can

1400
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: fight in terms of the motor in him and the

1401
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 4: want to go out there and do it. This is

1402
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: that right challenge. You can't push him too fast, too quick,

1403
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: you do. Look, we say this is the UFC, this

1404
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 4: is the big leagues. Everybody, you know, you get the

1405
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: same harsh treatment a brock listener. You're getting Frank car

1406
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 4: or Frank Meher. I'm sorry on your first fight, but

1407
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 4: that's not the case anymore. You can, you know, slow

1408
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: down the match making a bit. And you know, I

1409
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: think we saw that with O'Malley the last few fights,

1410
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: regardless of the reasoning behind it. And the question is when, Luke,

1411
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: when does Patty get figured out and can he get

1412
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 4: some wins that he you know that he almost doesn't

1413
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: deserve to keep that momentum going like, how far can

1414
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 4: he go?

1415
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 2: Luke?

1416
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: Is he a wolf in sheep's clothing in terms of

1417
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 4: his vulnerabilities? Does you know what I mean?

1418
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: Like?

1419
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: Is this just that catnip to get the the old

1420
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: guys sitting on the porch, you and me to go, oh,

1421
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: that guy's not not for real. But let's tune in

1422
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 4: and watch the next seven times he tries to show

1423
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: us whether he is like it, if there's a little

1424
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: bit of a crazy sly fox in his act in

1425
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: that regard, Look it works, it works.

1426
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1427
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: I tend to think that the UFC is you know,

1428
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: they gave him contracts at several points, or give him

1429
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: UFC offers at several points in his career, and he

1430
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 3: declined them. And I think this is the third time

1431
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: he finally did sign with him, which was the right call.

1432
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: I think he needed to get more experience and he

1433
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: did and everyone comes along in the way that they did,

1434
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: and by the time he made the UFC again, the look,

1435
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 3: the talk, the way, it kind of caught on fire,

1436
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: certainly over in the UK, and I guess UFC US

1437
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: fans love him as well.

1438
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: But the slow rolling.

1439
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: Of the matchmaking tells you exactly what the UFC makes

1440
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: of him, which is that they're not exactly sure what

1441
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: they have or what it's going to really turn into.

1442
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: However, this one is.

1443
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 3: Like I'll say this, it's bad if Patty loses this one, because,

1444
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, this is not like some striker who's

1445
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 3: got a good takedown defence that's going to really put

1446
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: it on him in a way where his deficiencies that

1447
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: are known would show up. And I've talked about this

1448
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: before soren Bach who beat him in Cage Warriors and

1449
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 3: beat him with the grappling basically over the course of

1450
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: five rounds, who went on to Bellatore, kind of showed

1451
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: that even with the grappling there are some limits. But

1452
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: this is one that is certainly winnable for him. But

1453
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: if you can't beat a guy who is not so

1454
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: much a dynamic threat on the feet, does have good grappling,

1455
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: but that's supposed to be your you know, your base,

1456
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: that would be a real bad sign.

1457
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: I think.

1458
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna say this is a do or

1459
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: die contest. I think you she's trying to get as

1460
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: much out of him as they can. But and again,

1461
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: if you're Patty, you have to love the matchmaking. You

1462
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: got a guy who will accommodate you in all likelihood

1463
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 3: in the grappling department. But if you can't beat that guy,

1464
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, you're not probably not going to go very far. Also,

1465
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: I have to ask you, BC, where are you on

1466
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: the Molly McCann versus Hannah Goldie matchup?

1467
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: That's why written all over.

1468
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: Eas he might not be surprised. Look got pretty deep

1469
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 4: in that one. And I will tell you this. You know,

1470
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 4: we do have a recurring Wednesday storyline special segment where

1471
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 4: BC announces is super sloppy special of the week, and

1472
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 4: that would be this Luke, It's gonna be interesting because look,

1473
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: you know, I was a little skeptical on meet Paull

1474
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: Molly in the beginning too, and I think she's really

1475
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 4: kind of putting it together. And she just had her

1476
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: knockout winning her last fight. Given the the setting and

1477
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 4: you know in the UK and the placement gout on television,

1478
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 4: I mean it was massive. I think she's the better

1479
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 4: fighter here against Hannah Goldie, who's typically been a prelim

1480
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 4: fighter and has you know, had some up downs. Although Luke,

1481
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 4: I do call her the Sean Shirk of the women's

1482
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 4: straweight division. You're gonna have to agree with that, Luke.

1483
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

1484
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 4: She's a physical tank, Luke. She'll go in there and

1485
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 4: brawl too, but she's a physical tank, you know. I

1486
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: think Molly Cannon should win this. I don't think it'll

1487
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 4: be easy, but I think this could end up being

1488
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: a fun ass fight, Luke, for all the reasons you

1489
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 4: would believe. I mean, you know, with crazy transitions and

1490
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 4: dramatic twists and turns. So I want you to be

1491
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: aware of this, and I want you to be ready, Luke,

1492
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: this is going to be entertaining.

1493
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: Where are you on the return of Gustafson A and

1494
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: his return to two oh five as he takes on

1495
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: krill Off. I have to say, people, I'm like, reasonably

1496
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: high on it. I guess I'm kind of interested, but

1497
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: not that high.

1498
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: No, Luke, No, I don't. I think I'd love to

1499
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 4: God bless you. I'd love for it to be proven wrong, Luke.

1500
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 4: And I'm certainly not a hater at Alexander Guvson. Dude,

1501
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times I rewatched the

1502
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 4: Cormier fight, Luke that no one talks about how great

1503
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 4: that fight was. Great, all right, love me some gusts,

1504
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 4: but he hasn't convinced me, you know, the one off

1505
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 4: at heavyweight or the comeback from the original retirement that

1506
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to say that there's still not something

1507
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: left in there. I mean he is only like thirty five, Luke.

1508
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 4: There could be something left in there. I just haven't

1509
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 4: seen the motivation, the right motivation, I guess, is what

1510
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I haven't seen that spark. I don't know

1511
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 4: why he's doing it. Could just be, you know, that's

1512
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 4: who he is, scratch the itch. I'm not sure. I

1513
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: haven't looked that deeply into it, but from what I

1514
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 4: have seen, I don't there's a tough matchup, Luke come

1515
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: back down to two o five. I mean really ever since.

1516
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he's been the same since the second

1517
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 4: Jones fight, you know where I think he came into

1518
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 4: it and we probably over over pumped up his value

1519
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 4: because we were just excited that that rematch became possible,

1520
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 4: even with the last minute city change and all that.

1521
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 4: But you go back and watch it, like, you know, yeah,

1522
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 4: that was not just the beginning of the end. That's

1523
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 4: kind of who he's been for a while Luke. So

1524
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: if Gus can re hit that spark, then this could

1525
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 4: be a great matchup. But I kind of feel like

1526
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 4: one way traffic's coming, Luke, and I don't want to

1527
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 4: see that. I don't want to see that.

1528
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: Okay, we shall see.

1529
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: And then last Paul Craig versus Vulcan Uzdemir opens the

1530
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 3: making really fun fight. Yeah, I totally agree. Why do

1531
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: you like it so much?

1532
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: Uh? Look, Paul Craig's probably gonna do Paul Craig things

1533
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: and get dropped early and almost stopped and then rally

1534
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: to get a submission win. And Luke as dangerous as

1535
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: Vulcan Ozsdamir is, and he is, this is the perfect

1536
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 4: type opponent to have that type of finish against. There

1537
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 4: really is, you know. And on the flip side, if

1538
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: you're Craig and you're gonna keep taking some of that

1539
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: unnecessary damage before setting up what you do best, is

1540
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: the wrong guy to f around with, Luke, whether you're

1541
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 4: in the octagon or in a Fort lauder Dell bar Luke,

1542
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: never forget that exchange, right, you know, Vulcan's not the

1543
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: same stock right now that he was when he kind

1544
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: of got fast tracked to a title because there was

1545
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 4: no one else a title shot because there was no

1546
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 4: one else available at that moment. But he still could

1547
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 4: thump Luke. So this is a good ass fight, man.

1548
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 4: And how many more does Paul Craig have to win

1549
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 4: before he gets some like, you know, push into that

1550
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: title picture Luke?

1551
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: Uh, probably a lot, Probably a lot, because you know,

1552
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: he's got some pretty amazing wins on his record, but

1553
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: there are a lot of them are like you know,

1554
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 3: victory from the jaws of defeat.

1555
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: He is five oh and one in the last six,

1556
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: five oh and one Luke.

1557
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, I mean, maybe maybe not too far,

1558
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I feel like there's a lot

1559
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 3: of other guys who, you know, we still have the

1560
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: Smith versus on Kalia fight coming up. Rackets is kind

1561
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 3: of still out there although he was injured. You got

1562
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: Yon Glover, Micro. I mean, there's a lot of guys

1563
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: ahead of him, you know, sort of.

1564
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm not pushing this the topic because

1565
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 4: I think he has huge chance of you know, becoming

1566
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: the next champion. I love Paul Craig's game, but five

1567
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 4: oh on one in his last six, and there's a

1568
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,919
Speaker 4: few mixture of like decent names and old names like Showgun.

1569
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 4: But like he did just finish Kreelaw in the first round, Luke,

1570
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: so it's gonna be hard to keep him out if

1571
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 4: he keeps winning, right. A guy to watch, which makes

1572
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 4: this fight even more interesting. A guy to watch in

1573
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: the larger picture.

1574
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: Agreed.

1575
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: Agreed, And certainly you know something of an Mma unicorn

1576
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: in the way that he firs.

1577
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: It's really a special guy. I like Paul Craig a lot.

1578
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to topic number four because the

1579
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 3: UFC London fights will naturally be on Saturday. On Friday,

1580
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: you get Bellator to eighty three BC and in your

1581
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: main event, I got to tell you this is a

1582
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 3: big fight for Douglas Lima. Douglas Lima has been on

1583
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: a terrible losing streak, the worst of his career, I

1584
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 3: would say, and he does not have an easy fight next.

1585
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: Jason Jackson, the ass kicking Machine is his known nickname,

1586
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 3: who has been fighting at one to seventy five for

1587
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: a few times. But we are guy. Rashad Evans has

1588
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: been high on Jason Jackson for a really long time.

1589
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 2: BC.

1590
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: Douglas Lima did an interview with MMA Junkies Danny Sigora saying,

1591
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, like, have I lost a step? Am I

1592
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 3: too old? Like he has really begin to grapple with

1593
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 3: frankly existential questions. Is it a case where he is

1594
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: too old? Has he lost a step? What has gone wrong?

1595
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: And what does he face against Jason Jackson?

1596
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean three fights losing streak obviously all title

1597
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 4: or fairly damn high elite matchups. It's tough, Luke, this

1598
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 4: is the right type of matchmaking to find it. To

1599
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 4: find out that question. It also, obviously, given the status

1600
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 4: of where Jackson is in the rankings, would allow a

1601
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: what is he a three time former champion, Luke or

1602
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: two time?

1603
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 2: It could be three? Right, Yeah, I'm not sure. I

1604
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: have to double check that, but several times, I.

1605
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: Mean, he would be right back in the mix. You

1606
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 4: beat a guy like Jackson at this point, So you

1607
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 4: have to look at that losing streak and say, I mean, look,

1608
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 4: he's not young. He's been in some tough ass fights.

1609
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of his biggest wins are tough

1610
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: ass fights. Was it the rest of the competition catching

1611
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 4: up to him just as he slowed down a bit?

1612
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 4: I remember the first fight with Rory, that was a

1613
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: hell of a fun fight, Luke. Or was it just

1614
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: you know, wrong matchup, wrong time? Okay, so he thought

1615
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: Musasi the first one, the size differential, kind of daring

1616
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 4: to be great. You get what would happen there? The

1617
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 4: second one, Luke, it looks so good. But most recently

1618
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 4: against MVP in the split decision loss, would you argue

1619
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: that he for the first time showed how he can

1620
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 4: sustain the fact that he's getting old and it's slipping

1621
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: away naturally physically by leaning on his wrestling and making

1622
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 4: that a different kind of fight for big stretches, Luke.

1623
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he did have a rally in him, and

1624
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 4: he did have a focus on efficiency and saying, Okay,

1625
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: this is what I can bring to this moment right here,

1626
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 4: this is my best chance to win because you know,

1627
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: the old stalker and leg striker and just walk you down.

1628
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: And you know he may not be able to be

1629
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 4: that guy anymore against some of these more elite guys.

1630
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna, you know, rip him for the

1631
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 4: Amasov lost, Luke to lose the title, but it was

1632
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 4: it was one side of his shit. It was way

1633
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 4: more one side than I thought it would be. I like,

1634
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 4: at least the spirit against MVP. Did that show you,

1635
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 4: like Arlavsky like, sometimes you see these guys delaying the inevitable,

1636
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 4: finding another sunset before walking away.

1637
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 3: I have concerns, not that he he couldn't win this fight.

1638
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: I do think it is winnable because Jason Jackson is

1639
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: talented and he's big for the weight class.

1640
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: But you know the.

1641
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Douglas Lima has enough in enough areas

1642
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 3: of the game if he mixes it up, Like we

1643
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: talked about le Jiang Lang in his fight against Muslim Salakov,

1644
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 3: where he was targeting the head, body, and legs all equally,

1645
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 3: which is not right or wrong per se, but it

1646
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: was very right for him in that particular context. It

1647
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: was a really smart application of strategy. I think if

1648
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: you see something in the sense of Lima doing a

1649
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 3: little bit of wrestling, doing some clinching fighting at distance,

1650
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 3: you know, mixing a lot of different offensive elements in there,

1651
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: and not letting Jason Jackson settle. Yeah, I do think

1652
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: he can actually win this contest. So there is a

1653
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 3: potential out there, but I think the signs are bad. Man,

1654
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: Like he beats Michael Page in May, of twenty nineteen

1655
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: venom Page and he looked like that was one of

1656
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 3: his best wins. And then he had a really strong

1657
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: win against Rory McDonald. But then he fought Musase and

1658
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 3: looked very languid. And then you're right about the Amazon fight.

1659
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: Amasov just kind of, I want to say, ran over

1660
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: him but didn't have that much trouble. And then the

1661
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: Michael Page won, Page is better, and then Lima's on

1662
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 3: the downside, and so even tho it was a bit

1663
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: of a third round or rally or whatever it was.

1664
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: Look at the top position, yeah, I mean, look at

1665
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: the fight he's putting on that video right now, Louis.

1666
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1667
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: But to drop that way that he did, I am

1668
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 3: glad that he was confronting the existential questions. I think

1669
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 3: that is actually good, not denying it, not pretending it's

1670
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: not a role, it's real, confronting it. I think that

1671
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: part is very good. On the other hand, the question

1672
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: is too little, too late. I always talk about it, man,

1673
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 3: like you know, whether it's your title or the end

1674
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 3: of your career, it's going to happen, and it might

1675
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: happen sooner than you think. And so for a fighter

1676
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 3: you have to be really kind of candid about that.

1677
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate his candor. It is winnable. This fight will

1678
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 3: tell us Jason Jackson. I'm gonna for folks who don't

1679
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: watch a lot of Bellator, let me just sort of

1680
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 3: warn you Jason Jackson is not an easy fight, dude,

1681
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: not an easy fight at all. This is a really

1682
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: tough one. So the good news for Douglas Lima fans

1683
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: is if he beats a guy like Jason Jackson, that's

1684
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 3: that's a great sign. And losing it is not the

1685
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: end of the world, but it would be four in

1686
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: a row at that point. And I also want to

1687
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 3: remind folks he made his MMA debut, his pro debut

1688
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: all the way back in July of two thousand and six.

1689
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 3: My man's been fighting for a long time. He's been

1690
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 3: in Beltre since twenty eleven. You know, there's a lot

1691
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 3: of miles on him, and these weren't a lot of

1692
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 3: easy fights either. There's a lot that has happened in

1693
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: his career up to this point. So what I would

1694
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: say is, you know, fairly fairly consequential doings here in

1695
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 3: this main event on Friday night in belt from Tacoma, Washington.

1696
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 4: I wonder if you know what, we'll get into this

1697
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: more when we preview this fight the ex's and o's

1698
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 4: on Friday, Luke, and we'll be all over CBS Sports HQ.

1699
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure getting ready for this the way and special

1700
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 4: all that, But you know, I wonder if if for

1701
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 4: Lima you do focus on a potential ground attack here, Luca,

1702
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 4: do you do vote you do really try to time

1703
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: your shots and really try to offset the amount of

1704
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 4: time you're going on even terms on the feet against

1705
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: a younger, aggressive guy. Is there an avenue here for that?

1706
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw logan story when an interim

1707
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 4: title right by by doing that to MVP, whether we

1708
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 4: agreed with the scoring or not, Luke, that may be

1709
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 4: the best avenue against a Jason Jackson who is an

1710
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 4: ass kicking machine, Luke, because it could go bad for

1711
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 4: him if this turns into an action fight. I believe

1712
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: he's got to kind of avoid that.

1713
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: The issue for Limas I agree that the ground has

1714
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: definitely need needs to be a critical component of this fight.

1715
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: The issue for Lima, and this is why it's been

1716
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: a bad sign, is he's just looked a little lifeless yeah,

1717
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, and you know this from boxing. What's the

1718
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 3: number one sign when someone is done in boxing is

1719
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: when they get hit and don't throw back, you know.

1720
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: And there was a little bit of that happening in

1721
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 3: some of these fights where he was just kind of

1722
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 3: getting hit or taken down, and you know, he was

1723
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: kind of fighting it off. But there wasn't like, you know,

1724
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 3: this extreme urgency that you see from someone like Izzy,

1725
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: who is you know, in the smack middle of his

1726
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: prime or something like that. It was just kind of like,

1727
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: you know, I'll all fight it off, I'll kind of

1728
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: hold on, but you know, accepting of certain things. That's

1729
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: a bad So we'll see if he can reverse it.

1730
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: But it's certainly in play also in this card BC.

1731
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 3: He might get a title shot off this. I think

1732
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: he's riting number three right now in the belt or

1733
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 3: lightweight division or no lightwaight or I'll look at the lightweight. Yes, yes,

1734
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm out of my mind here. For some reason, I

1735
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 3: was thinking it was bantamweight. No, it's lightweight. Usman nimber

1736
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 3: Goamdov taken on Chris Gonzalez. Kris Gonzalaz, by the way

1737
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 3: wrestling stand at himself Usman number gamdov BC he is.

1738
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this guy's gonna be champion. I don't

1739
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: know when. I don't know when, but would you share

1740
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: my enthusiasm. This guy's got Beltholder written all over him.

1741
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 4: You know my box of Russian hammers, Luke that I

1742
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: have to bring out often in this discussion, and just

1743
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 4: you know, his is of the squiggly shaped with the

1744
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 4: nice paint job on it, because he's not only of

1745
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 4: that Russian hammer contingency and representing, but there's a lot

1746
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: to love about his complete game. I think his first

1747
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 4: couple of fights in Beltorff really showcased that. I mean,

1748
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 4: you're you're Beam's cousin and your first name is Usman.

1749
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: I mean, like you know in you also can back

1750
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: up the wrestling you know Dagistan reputation. But yet Luke,

1751
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: it's a lot of his sort of plus ability to

1752
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 4: take fight, you know, to to suddenly it's checkmate and

1753
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 4: the fight's over, to take you there. There's something special,

1754
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 4: you know, win here. You you can't keep him away

1755
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 4: from a title shot. I mean, Luke, one day he's

1756
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 4: gonna fight AJ McKee for a title in one of

1757
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 4: these divisions. And it's gonna be a fan friggintastic fight.

1758
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 4: I think you know that there's.

1759
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: Something it's like for folks who haven't watched a lot

1760
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: of belt or like, what is he good at? Well?

1761
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: The answer is probably everything. Everything. He can strike his

1762
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: ass off in ways Habib never could. I don't know

1763
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: if he has the Habib level ground game, but his

1764
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 3: ground game is excellent, decision making is great, athleticism is

1765
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 3: where it needs to be. Coaching is obviously, you know,

1766
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: pretty fucking good.

1767
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: Dude.

1768
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 3: That guy is gonna wear a belt or belt and

1769
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna wear it for as long as he wants.

1770
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: He is so talented. It's shocking how good he is.

1771
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 3: And I gotta say the card overall, people are sleeping

1772
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 3: on it. The main event may or may not grab you.

1773
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, but this fight number gonna made off.

1774
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: Gonzales is on it. Lorenz Larkin is back on this card.

1775
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: How about this one. Sydney Outlaw a top prospect or

1776
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 3: top contender, I should say, taking on to Fiqu Musayev.

1777
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: Is on this one.

1778
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: Romero Cots a top prospect I mean frequently. Dalton Rosta's

1779
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: on this card, Gadziy Robotanov, who's a fucking another one

1780
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 3: of your hammers is on this card, taken on Bobby King.

1781
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: Farraaldo versus Iniguez is on this card, dude. This one

1782
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 3: is filled with these up and coming interesting guys that

1783
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: you really should be paying attention to.

1784
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, Bobby King is always always makes

1785
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 4: fun fights. All Hawaiian there, Luke, But Sydney outlaw getting

1786
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 4: co main event status in here, Luke, I think tells

1787
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: you that you know, there's certainly something there. He's put

1788
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: together some good wins. This is a tough fight, and

1789
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 4: this is a great opportunity and the same division as Zusmann,

1790
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 4: r Maaga Metov, who's gonna fight before him. You know

1791
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: that that he's got big potential here with Belator. So

1792
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 4: you like to see some of the I mean, look,

1793
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: you if you're belatoorf the standpoint of like the homegrown

1794
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 4: idea or you know, having Amasov become the champion then

1795
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 4: called become the champion. Guys that that really you know,

1796
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 4: they may have been in other organizations, but you know,

1797
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 4: not major ones making monster headlines. They've come through the

1798
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 4: Bellator way here. These names, you know, I mean, we

1799
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 4: just saw Cody Law lost lose. He's gonna have to

1800
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 4: bounce back. But these names are coming through, and Aaron

1801
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 4: Pico is still around Luke and he's still going to

1802
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 4: be coming on and eventually fighting for a title soon.

1803
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 4: I wonder if Outlaw is fashioning himself to be in

1804
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 4: that group, Luca, do you have you seen enough to

1805
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 4: see that that that this is a guy who could

1806
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 4: be something.

1807
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tofique Musaiev is like real good, that's real good.

1808
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, he definitely sitting in the Outlaw

1809
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 3: is definitely worthy of your respect. But this is not

1810
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: an easy fight, and I want to remind folks Rooman

1811
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 3: Ferraldo's on this card as well. Seven to zero guy

1812
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: taking on Luis innigez b. See Ferraaldo is a high

1813
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: light machine on the feet and don't believe me, put

1814
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 3: his name into YouTube, put his name into whatever search

1815
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 3: or social media channel you prefer, and watch the fights

1816
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: that come up. This guy is as exciting a striker

1817
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: as they come for guys who have less than ten

1818
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 3: fights in MMA.

1819
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: He is incredible in that.

1820
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: He's knocking mofos out. I mean, he's just knocking people

1821
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 4: of the fuck out lit.

1822
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so this is one of those cards where by

1823
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 3: by the way, women's flyweight fight Vida Artega taken off

1824
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 3: Vanessa Porto as well. I would make a case that

1825
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: obviously the main event carries a lot of significance for

1826
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: Bellator in their division. Certainly Sidney Outlaws worthy of respect,

1827
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 3: and you got number made on the main card. In

1828
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 3: that sense, it's better also Lorenz Larkin on the main card.

1829
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: But this prelim card in terms of having a bunch

1830
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: of interesting names, you know, depending on your preference of

1831
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: what you care about, it might be actually more interesting

1832
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 3: than the main card, which of course will be free

1833
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: on YouTube or Pluto TV. There's a lot to like

1834
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 3: on this card. From the Emerald Queen Casino and Hotel

1835
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 3: in Tacoma, Washington, BC. Have you been to Tacoma, Washington.

1836
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 4: I've never been, Luke, Washington State is right up there

1837
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 4: on my must you know. You know I'm a big

1838
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 4: nature guy, Luke. They got rainforests, they got alpine looking peaks,

1839
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 4: they got ocean. I'm in that, you know, I'm not

1840
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 4: gonna be out in kiesa territory over at Eggers meets

1841
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: Luke taking down that Lan Jeger like you did. But

1842
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 4: I am looking forward to head up you know all

1843
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 4: those national you know, North Cascades National Park, Luke, I

1844
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 4: want to see that shit. Have you been to that state?

1845
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 5: No?

1846
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: So the Pacific Northwest has eluded me. I've actually never

1847
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: been to I've been to a lot of places in

1848
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 3: the world. I've never been to Oregon or Washington State.

1849
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 3: I am I'm sleeping on that big time.

1850
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, why don't you save the next trip that was

1851
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 4: scheduled for Metagine and head on over to like, you know, Seattle, Luke.

1852
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's the difference.

1853
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: As wonderful as Seattle is, the US dollar right now

1854
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: is so fucking strong. It's like four and a half

1855
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: to one on the Colombian peso, which means you can

1856
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 3: go to Columbia and live like a goddamn king.

1857
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 4: Oh like like like steak dinners all that, like for

1858
01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 4: breakfast route Luke.

1859
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 3: Right, Like literally it would be hard to spend one

1860
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 3: hundred dollars in a day. It would be actually kind

1861
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 3: of hard.

1862
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 4: Wow. And that what about like massages and like pampering

1863
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 4: and that kind of stuff. That's cheap too, dude.

1864
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: So so you could go to the beach, and there's

1865
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: these ladies that come by and they give massages. They

1866
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 3: just walk around doing it, and they always combined to

1867
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: like ooh mucho tension, massaie, massaie.

1868
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: Those are like five dollars, They're like five dollars.

1869
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 4: Oh wow, dude, Robert Kraft could clean up down there, Luke,

1870
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: it's awful. That's awful.

1871
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: That's just yeah.

1872
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 3: Okay, well he'd have to clean up because he'd be busy,

1873
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: if you know what I'm saying, Uh thinking gross there, Okay,

1874
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: BC Topic five will do some quick hitters. Volkanovsky is

1875
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,919
Speaker 3: sort of responding to what's happening in the Featherway division.

1876
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: He's asking, like, you know what, Rodriguez were an interim

1877
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 3: title be a possibility. Dana White says he likes it,

1878
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: he doesn't hate it, But then vocally mmy Hour says,

1879
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:57,879
Speaker 3: I don't.

1880
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: Mind the idea.

1881
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: While I'm sitting here, I won't read the rest of

1882
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 3: the quote because we don't really need to. But do

1883
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 3: you like the we talked about this? Dana White seems

1884
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 3: to like it. Volkanovsky doesn't seem to mind it. It's

1885
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: the right fight to make. As we said before, the

1886
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 3: winner would then take in pay per viewpoints heading into

1887
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: any unification with Volkanovsky BC hard not.

1888
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 4: To like it, and josh Amman doesn't get screwed. Where

1889
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 4: do I sign up? Look, let's do this thing right now.

1890
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's a grave frick and fight

1891
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 4: on top of that, so yes, please, thank you. Move on.

1892
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 3: Frankie Edgar reveals his desired opponent for his retirement fight.

1893
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: First of all, before you can get to this, let

1894
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 3: me just say I'm glad that he is contemplating retirement.

1895
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: My man has taken. First of all, he's done in

1896
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 3: an amazing amount. He will go in the UFC Hall

1897
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 3: of Fame. I have very little doubt about that. I'm

1898
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: sure you probably agree. Was beloved in ways in his

1899
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: peak that I don't think current fans would really understand.

1900
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 4: Dude stayed relevant at an age at a weight class

1901
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 4: that he's going down in wait the second half of

1902
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 4: his career. I mean, that's wild.

1903
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: In three weight classes, won a title one fifty five,

1904
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 3: It was relevant at one forty five, and fought for

1905
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 3: a title, and was relevant at one thirty five at

1906
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: least for a little while, with pretty important fights.

1907
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Speaker 2: I mean he was. Do I remember when he fought Tyson.

1908
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Speaker 2: I think it was Tyson.

1909
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Speaker 3: Griffin was his UFC debut, and that was the time

1910
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Speaker 3: when Tyson Griffin was kind of at like, you know,

1911
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 3: it was a very good fighter, and I was like,

1912
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Speaker 3: I don't know who this scrub is from. You know,

1913
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Speaker 3: Tom's driven New Jersey. Tyson Griffin's gonna beat his ass.

1914
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Speaker 3: And then Frankieger went in there and fucking gave it

1915
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Speaker 3: to him, and I was like, whoa, who is this guy?

1916
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Speaker 2: Amazing? Right? All right? But Frankie talked to Britte Komodo

1917
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Speaker 2: from ESPN. Here's what he said.

1918
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Speaker 3: Quote, Honestly, I'm never one to call out anybody or

1919
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Speaker 3: pick anybody. I usually at the UFC and Ali who's

1920
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Speaker 3: his manager?

1921
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Speaker 2: Figure that out.

1922
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Speaker 3: But I'll say a name just because it's more of

1923
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 3: a legacy fight, and I know he's got a fight

1924
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Speaker 3: coming up and everything, and who knows how it can

1925
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: happen and go down. But I think Domini Cruz, he

1926
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: was a champion at one thirty five when I was

1927
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Speaker 3: a champion at one fifty five, still both pretty much

1928
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Speaker 3: top of the division.

1929
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Speaker 2: I think that could be an interesting fight.

1930
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Speaker 5: BC.

1931
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Speaker 2: Do you agree, Uh?

1932
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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, this is what This is how old guys

1933
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 4: should be fighting each other. Get mister Faber involved in

1934
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 4: one of these again if he's interested, Yes, Luke, it's

1935
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 4: great match making. I don't want to see Frankie against

1936
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 4: a hammer. I thought, you know, maybe he should have

1937
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: walked away after that last fight. But if he wants

1938
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 4: one more against another name, he could soak up the moment.

1939
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 4: You could have a reason to get in great shape,

1940
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 4: and you know it's a matchup where you don't, at

1941
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 4: least on paper, suspect him to take a ton of damage.

1942
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 4: He ended up requesting Luke to the UFC per Aaron

1943
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 4: Bronstead that this fight would take place at MSG UFC

1944
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 4: two eighty one. So that's basically Frankie's backyard there outside

1945
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 4: of Jersey. So that's the type of legend that you

1946
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 4: would like to see be given the red carpet on

1947
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 4: the way out. In ways, as you like to often mention,

1948
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 4: which is true, it doesn't happen in this promotion, Luke.

1949
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 4: They don't do that shit, all right.

1950
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 3: I don't, But to get a retirement fight at MSG

1951
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 3: would be big, and I hope he gets it, and

1952
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 3: I hope that that's the end of it, because he's

1953
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 3: had a great, great career.

1954
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: All right.

1955
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: Lastly we'll end on this one. We spoke to Hassim

1956
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 3: Rockman Junior. I think everyone and their brother did, but

1957
01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 3: we were one of them.

1958
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 5: And h b C.

1959
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I'm gonna say this, if you

1960
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 3: didn't know their names and you just knew who X

1961
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: fighter was, let's say it's Jake Paul his record and

1962
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: the record of the guys that he beat, and then

1963
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: the why fighter has seen rockbund and all the guys

1964
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: he beat in his record. If you didn't know their names,

1965
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: you just knew them as X and Y, you would

1966
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 3: never ever pick X to beat why. You would never

1967
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 3: do it. It wouldn't make any sense. So there's a

1968
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 3: big question of like, has Jake Paul bitten off more

1969
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 3: than he can chew? Rockmun Junior spoke to us and

1970
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 3: certainly believes that. And you had asked him about some

1971
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: of his details on sparring Jake Paul and what he learned.

1972
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: We got a couple of audio clips. This is what

1973
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 3: he told us about sparring Jake Paul.

1974
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 6: I learned that he doesn't know like his trainers, the

1975
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 6: people that are doing this fom they don't tell him

1976
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 6: that they're.

1977
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 5: Asking people not to knock this guy out. He's in

1978
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 5: his head.

1979
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 6: He's convinced that these Sparnge sessions are real fights because

1980
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 6: he doesn't have an amateur background, so he doesn't have

1981
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 6: amateur fight experience.

1982
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 5: So when he gets in there to ro, he's treating

1983
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 5: it like it's a real fight.

1984
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 6: And you know, the pro such as myself and other

1985
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 6: people that inspired him, we're being.

1986
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 5: Told, Okay, don't don't turn out, Paul, don't knock this

1987
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 5: guy out. Don't piss him off, or it's gonna be

1988
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 5: hard to get you paid. He's not gonna come off

1989
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 5: the money.

1990
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 6: With that being said, that's a that's a super handicap

1991
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 6: to me and for him to have built this false bravado,

1992
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 6: false confidence only gonna be a detriment to healthy six.

1993
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 5: He's gonna be in trouble.

1994
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: What did you think?

1995
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 3: But the look on my face was not the way

1996
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 3: I was feeling. I looked like I was, you know,

1997
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 3: pissed off at the d m V or something.

1998
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 4: But what he had to say, uh, look after our

1999
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: interview with him, and you can obviously check it out

2000
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 4: at YouTube dot com, Slash Morning Combat in full along

2001
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 4: with our Lukes chat with Jake Paul. At the end

2002
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 4: of that interview with that seam Junior, I'm like, Oh,

2003
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: he's gonna win this fight by knockout, and look at

2004
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 4: the end of the day, that's what I love about

2005
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 4: this matchup. I know this wasn't the plan match you

2006
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 4: and I weren't all that excited for Tommy Fury, especially

2007
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 4: if Tyson couldn't travel and be by his side and

2008
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 4: play up the sort of circus of it. Well, it

2009
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 4: turns out none of the Furies can travel at the moment,

2010
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 4: or at least they say this is a way better fight.

2011
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 4: Because here's the bottom line, the best thing I could

2012
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 4: tell you about why you should order this August sixth,

2013
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 4: Although Showtimes not telling me to say this, but the

2014
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 4: fan in me is Luke, and the fan of me

2015
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 4: is saying this. I'm not sure if this is trap

2016
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 4: fight City and Jake's gonna not only take the first

2017
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: owl but get stopped, or if this actually is given

2018
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: some of the vulnerabilities and inconsistencies of Rockman Junior, the

2019
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: perfect matchup for Jake to look great and pass a

2020
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 4: big test. The truth may end up being in the middle,

2021
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 4: and if it is, we may end up getting a

2022
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 4: very entertaining, dramatic fight, Luke, with a lot to fight

2023
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 4: for for both seriously, in terms of keeping the train moving,

2024
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 4: I mean, Rockman Junior's career was just not being talked about.

2025
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 4: He just lost his first pro bout to Tommy Morrison's

2026
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 4: kid and got stopped and guessed out. So for him

2027
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 4: to now get to turn this around, have this opportunity,

2028
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 4: he's such a wildcard that I gotta see it. Luke,

2029
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 4: I don't really know. I don't really know who's telling

2030
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 4: the truth about the sparring. I don't really know, And

2031
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 4: I like that it's refreshing.

2032
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 3: Fair enough, and to that point, there's you know, there's

2033
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: not red flags in the sense of Jake. We all

2034
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: know he's got limited experience and limited abilities as a boxer,

2035
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,839
Speaker 3: and we know that on paper, which I indicated on paper,

2036
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: Rockman Junior's resume is much better. But we also saw

2037
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 3: the presser BC in Mason Square Garden where his own

2038
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 3: dad kind of aired him out. So we asked him

2039
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: about that.

2040
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 6: Here's what he said, Yes, absolutely, and that's what he

2041
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 6: said at the conference, you know, where he said that

2042
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 6: I've been underprepared for my fights, I did this.

2043
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 5: Fights that I've won by first, with a lot of

2044
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 5: fights that I won by first, I knockout where I

2045
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 5: could have.

2046
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 6: Been in better shape or I could have ended that fight,

2047
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 6: uh in even more emphatic fashion.

2048
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 5: With that being said, I think that you know.

2049
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 6: Having an honest person in your corner is the best

2050
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 6: thing because I know, when it comes down to it,

2051
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 6: he's gonna be honest.

2052
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 5: He's going to let me know what's going on. He said,

2053
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 5: let me know what I need to do, and if

2054
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 5: I listen, I'll come out on top.

2055
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 3: There you have it, So that again August six, Showtime

2056
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: pay per view. I got to tell you, if you're

2057
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 3: not interested in Jake Paul, then you know you're not

2058
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 3: interested in Jake Paul. But if you are at all

2059
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 3: curious about what his actual boxing ability is, this is,

2060
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 3: by a million miles the best time to figure out

2061
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 3: what he's got. This is it for all the red

2062
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 3: flags and the short notice and the wait which will

2063
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 3: complicate matters. B See, I think you would agree we've

2064
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 3: never had a better test case to see it, because

2065
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: even with the Fury fight, I don't think it would

2066
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 3: have told you this one at least in theory stands

2067
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 3: a much better chance of telling us where Jake Paul

2068
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 3: is on this.

2069
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 4: Shne absolutely, look if Jake's gonna go to six and oh,

2070
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to earn it, I mean he's gonna

2071
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: have to legitimately earn it with the opposition in front

2072
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 4: of him, or so we think. So that's the intrigue.

2073
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 4: I did mention Luke in that interview. I got dead

2074
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 4: wronged preemptively by a ton of people. I'd said, this

2075
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 4: is the first time Jake's fighting a real fighter. Obviously

2076
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 4: I met real professional boxer. No disrespect to the fighting

2077
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 4: heart of one Ben Askron or Tyren Woodley or Ann

2078
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:27,799
Speaker 4: Eason Gibb or Nate Robinson. Luke right, kmi Z KLF

2079
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 4: is going to rock you.

2080
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, okay BC.

2081
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 3: I want to remind folks we are a nominee for

2082
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 3: the Best Sports Podcast and Best Male Hosted Podcast category

2083
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 3: in the People's Choice Podcast Awards. We appreciate all you

2084
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: guys for all you do for us, of course, and

2085
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 3: we hope you enjoy the show enough to nominate us

2086
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: to advance to the final round. To nominate Morning Combat,

2087
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 3: go to Podcast Awards dot Com or you can scan

2088
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 3: the QR code on your screen, but it's Podcast Awards

2089
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Speaker 3: dot Com slash app slash sign up and toggle down

2090
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 3: to the sports category. The whole process takes less than

2091
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 3: sixty secon see we've included a link at the top

2092
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 3: of the episode description as.

2093
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we don't have to appre we don't

2094
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 4: have to always nail this, but this allows us to

2095
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 4: do some of the fun bs that we're that we

2096
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 4: love to do and involve you. So I'd love to

2097
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 4: have a live show in NYC, Luke, So do support

2098
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 4: us in ways like this, maybe we can get something

2099
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: like that off the ground. Thank you uh for with

2100
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 4: respect to your IA favorite, Luke. We are the team

2101
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 4: alpha male in this in this space, in this division,

2102
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 4: and I think that's why we're up for Best Male

2103
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Podcasts with all male viewers.

2104
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Who would be the Dwayne Ludwig in.

2105
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 4: That in that case, who the guy who gets to bang?

2106
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: All right?

2107
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 3: We see we may have to pause in the middle

2108
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 3: of fan subs. It depends how fast they go because

2109
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Speaker 3: we are expected to get Tom aspinall live in about

2110
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Speaker 3: ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: But for now we can we can always go back

2112
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 2: and finish. But let's let's go to the fan subs.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, Morning Combat at gmail dot com. You can

2114
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 4: send in your artwork. Mikey Mormile will sift through them

2115
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 4: and here's the best of the best. We call it

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01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 4: fan submission.

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Speaker 2: You've got mal fewers were yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: All right. Let's start out with Michael. He says, I

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01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 4: found Luke's classmates cushion elosand I'm sorry, Luke's classmates custom

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Speaker 4: elosand just like BC said, they wear Avia's with a sharpie. Yeah, Louke,

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Speaker 4: what the hell I mean, Craig el I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I honestly, I mean, I'm so glad that I'm wrong,

2123
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 3: because it makes for parody and the funniest ways. But

2124
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 3: I could have if you had told me on like

2125
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 3: in a deposition where I was, you know, hand on

2126
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 3: the Bible kind of thing under oath, I would have

2127
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,600
Speaker 3: told you I saw some Elos in seventh grade. I

2128
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: must be out of my fucking mind.

2129
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 4: Did you have some bullshit basketball shoes at that age?

2130
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 4: Like voights or like, dude, tell you.

2131
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 3: I've told just before. So my parents were divorced, right,

2132
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: and you know, Chakra that I turned out the way

2133
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 3: that I did. But uh wow, so I have two

2134
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 3: stories about this. I have two story worries about this.

2135
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 3: One I've told you before. My dad bought us the

2136
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 3: Rebox pumps, and this was the kind when Reebok had

2137
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 3: like the little basketball, like the orange basketball on the

2138
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 3: top of the shoe.

2139
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and my mom.

2140
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 3: So my brother got him and brought it home from

2141
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 3: from my dad, and my mom made us take it back.

2142
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 3: I never got to wear them one time. I was

2143
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 3: so fucking pissed.

2144
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: That was once.

2145
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 3: The other one was my peak because I got injured

2146
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 3: that year. But my peak was I remember, I've been

2147
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: this height since I was fourteen years old, so I

2148
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 3: had a huge advantage of everyone, and I was on

2149
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: the It was my eighth grade year. I was on

2150
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: the basketball team, and my mom refused to go along

2151
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: with the team. Like you know, the team was like

2152
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: buy shoes at large, and everyone pays their thing, and

2153
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 3: we were all going to get these like sick Nike

2154
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 3: air you know, basketball shoes, and my mom made me

2155
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: buy like these brand new, fucking ugly ass This was

2156
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 3: like the mid nineties too, so you can imagine the

2157
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 3: color patterns New Balance basketball shoes.

2158
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: God, that were just the fucking.

2159
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 4: First new Balance is great for running shoes for people

2160
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 4: our age, Luke, but that is not what you want

2161
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 4: to be wearing.

2162
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: I know, and it sucks now, dude, because now that

2163
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm old enough, I've been buying Jordan's the last few

2164
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 3: years and wearing them like, you know, a middle aged

2165
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: fucking crisis kind of guy.

2166
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

2167
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 3: But the truth is I can't wear him anymore because

2168
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: the toebox is so narrow it's sucking up my feet.

2169
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: So now I have to go back and wear ugly shoes.

2170
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 2: So at the point I could have.

2171
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: Worn cool shoes, I never got to wear cool shoes

2172
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 3: my life shuits.

2173
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 4: I had a couple of dark years in middle score

2174
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 4: where we had no money as a family and had

2175
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 4: to wear the La gears and get made fun of. Luke.

2176
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I've been there with you. I know that I know

2177
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 4: that pain a lot.

2178
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 5: Luke.

2179
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you wear the British night Dimo cells.

2180
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 4: With a dimontab technology. I've had all the bullshit ones

2181
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 4: before I finally could get a good pair. Actually, you

2182
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 4: know what the first shoe I had was that I

2183
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 4: thought was cool? Wash Well, I had the Converse Magics.

2184
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 4: Remember those those low ones you had in the early nineties,

2185
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 4: and then I had the Reebok street ball ones that

2186
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 4: Sinbad was in the commercial four You remember those? No,

2187
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 4: oh those were those were pretty good.

2188
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 3: I actually I have one more very quickly when I

2189
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 3: was in like fifth grade and my mom was like

2190
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 3: real broken, like I don't know what was happening with

2191
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 3: child support, Like my mom had no money. I had

2192
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 3: to wear a shoe like straight up from like you know,

2193
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: like pay less shoes or whatever. Yeah, I had to

2194
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: wear a shoe called the winner shoe. I'm like, dude,

2195
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 3: if you have a shoe called you're a loser, Like

2196
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 3: automatically you're a loser. So, dude, I've never I've like

2197
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 3: literally I have been fucked on shoe wear my whole life.

2198
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 2: It sucks, dude, It sucks, dude.

2199
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 4: People don't realize that age. When we were in middle school,

2200
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 4: you were judged by it.

2201
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: You were judged by it big time.

2202
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 4: You were in a in a in your social class

2203
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 4: because of the kind of of shoe you had, I mean,

2204
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 4: lame people whose parents could get them Jordan's Luke, they

2205
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 4: had a moment in the sunshine.

2206
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, they don't understand how easy they had it.

2207
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 3: Those of us who had to navigate the minefield of

2208
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,600
Speaker 3: the winter shoes and British Night diamondsalls we had some

2209
01:37:58,800 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 3: character built in.

2210
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 4: Wonder why my toes look like this? You know what

2211
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 4: I mean? Come on, no hard earned journey to get here?

2212
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 2: All right?

2213
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 4: This is from Lee. He says, good morning. I wish

2214
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 4: to formally apply to be a model for your MK merch.

2215
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 4: I feel I meet the very specific criteria. Wash dad check,

2216
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: sleep deprived, check prematurely bald, check low te some good,

2217
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 4: some bad tattoos? Check strong in the weight room relative

2218
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 4: to my level of washedness. Check. Admirer of bbls and

2219
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 4: follows a disproportionately high number of female fighters on Instagram.

2220
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 4: All check. I'm a total free rider, however, and I'm

2221
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 4: willing to pay for the shipping of the gear ps.

2222
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 4: What popularity content do we have to rig contest? I

2223
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 4: think he meant to say to get Luke and BC

2224
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 4: to travel to the UK. Luke, I did say, that's

2225
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: our next show goal, right, fifteen five thousand, five thousand

2226
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 4: live fans in the UK. That's my next goal for

2227
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 4: the show.

2228
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: All right, that would be that would be amazing.

2229
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think about this bloke? Tempt Luke

2230
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 4: to wear our merch as a model. And is he

2231
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 4: strong as shit as he thinks it's least?

2232
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't quite see how many plates he has on.

2233
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 3: Let's see one two, I can't quite see because my glass.

2234
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Let's see one, two, three, four. And then it looks

2235
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 3: like he has the thirty fives on, which only a

2236
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 3: weirdo puts on his U thing. So these aren't straight

2237
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 3: up deadlift this. It looks to me like a block pole.

2238
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 3: So he's got it slightly off the ground.

2239
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 4: But if it's that medium tank top, fairly.

2240
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: Well, right, yeah, I gotta say.

2241
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 3: And also the mechanics here look for the most part,

2242
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 3: pretty good, folks. Like the top of his back is

2243
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 3: round it, which is true, but that doesn't matter. What

2244
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 3: only matters is if the lumbar part of the back

2245
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 3: is rounded.

2246
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: He's got a mixed grip, he's got a nice Yeah,

2247
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. It's pretty good.

2248
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 4: We got shout out to r J dunkeldob or we

2249
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 4: got MK power lifting shirts on the site. Now this

2250
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 4: is great, Luke.

2251
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say. In general, if this is what

2252
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 3: he's pulling, sleep deprived, he's okay because when I'm sleep deprived.

2253
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,480
Speaker 3: I can barely do ten minutes on the treadmill.

2254
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 4: Yes, or sixty minutes on the MK.

2255
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, yeah, exactly before I'm turned into you know.

2256
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 4: Before you get angry and you've suddenly threatened that you'll

2257
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 4: have another job. All right, Look this from Scott. He says,

2258
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 4: the fights on Saturday water Park on Sunday, make a

2259
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 4: donk data clothing line because y'all have some dad's out here.

2260
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 4: Repin also, can't watch your podcast while my sons are

2261
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 4: in the room because y'all got the potty bocas. Luke,

2262
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 4: this is Scott. Can you zoom in on his cable

2263
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 4: management or life management here.

2264
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 3: Luke, Well, he's got the he's got the television stand

2265
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 3: that I do like. He's like the substitute teacher and

2266
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,799
Speaker 3: he's just gonna plug in some movie on the VCR

2267
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 3: for the day, which is kind of strange. But the

2268
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 3: kid room looks pretty good. And uh, is there another

2269
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 3: TV in the back that the kid is watching?

2270
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 4: I think so, but that would also be his child. Look,

2271
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 4: you can be polite.

2272
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 2: You know it's his daughter. It may not be maybe

2273
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: he's still that kid from the grocery. I don't know.

2274
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 4: And here's him at the water park on Sunday. Luke

2275
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 4: rep still repping MK by the.

2276
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 2: Way, yeah he's got that flat brimmed.

2277
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 4: Oh God, pour some sugar on this guy, Luke in

2278
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 4: the name of love. Yes, yes, all right, yes, okay, great,

2279
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 4: Thank you, Scott Luke. Will you address his offer that

2280
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 4: his kids can't watch the show because of the language

2281
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 4: you choose to use.

2282
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 3: I would say it's also your language. I think it's

2283
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 3: fair you make jokes about you know that and all

2284
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 3: that you know, I mean you do a little bit

2285
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 3: of that too.

2286
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 4: All right, I'm trying to clean up Luke. Okay, starting now.

2287
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 4: Thank you. This is from mush Mustache Dad. He says,

2288
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,440
Speaker 4: if BBC was a metal.

2289
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 7: Maestro Black Black Liver Society, Luke, I look kind of

2290
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 7: cool as a Jack Zach Wilde.

2291
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, who's on tour by the way with one

2292
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 3: of my favorite bands? Uh well, actually no, well one

2293
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 3: and a half my favorite bands. I'm not a huge

2294
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 3: Anthrax guy, but they're on tour with Anthrax by Black

2295
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 3: Living's Society and also shots to Jamie Joss who I'm

2296
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: good I'm like boys with from Hate Breed.

2297
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 2: He's also on that tour as well.

2298
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 4: Wow, are you as big of a fan as I

2299
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 4: am of the No More Tears Ozzie album, which Zach

2300
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 4: Wilde had a tour to four son Luke.

2301
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 3: So you know what's funny about that. You know who

2302
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 3: is like a giant Zach wildfan is my wife?

2303
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 2: My wife. Wow, Zach Wilde loves black label society. I

2304
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: like him. Okay, I like him.

2305
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I definitely don't hate him at all, but I

2306
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 3: don't love him quite like some of the more diehards

2307
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 3: out there.

2308
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean he's he's incredible. I've seen him in

2309
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 4: concert before, Luke. He's incredible. He was doing like Van

2310
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 4: Halen teases. I mean it was incredible.

2311
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 2: No, he can play. I mean, say whatever you want

2312
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: about him. That dude can play. He can play his

2313
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 2: ass off. Yeah, dude.

2314
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 4: I by the way I saw it, last time I

2315
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 4: saw Ozzy and concert was probably like two and it

2316
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 4: even felt like we kend at Bernie's during that, Luke,

2317
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 4: it did. I mean, he still brought it, but it

2318
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 4: did feel a little bit.

2319
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just vicodin and skin at this point.

2320
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's still out there doing it.

2321
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 4: Oh. Luke. You know who is here? Not not tom

2322
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 4: Asminal yet but Appy Luke David Appleton, fresh from France. Luke,

2323
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 4: fresh out of the jam cell, I think, he says, Hi, guys,

2324
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 4: I thought I'd take a break from painting myself as

2325
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 4: a sex pest and send in a more normal fan

2326
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 4: sub so here I am with the kids. Yes, alarmingly,

2327
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 4: I have children. We were on holiday in the north

2328
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: of France rocking the MK gear. My kids refused to

2329
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 4: wear MK merched for the photos, labeling it T shirts

2330
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 4: to Boomer, even Brian should be able to pronounce that

2331
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 4: and translate that yours wholesomely. It's Appy David Appleton. PS.

2332
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 4: I just actually got recognized in Paris the other day.

2333
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 4: Don't know if they recognized me specifically for the MK shirt,

2334
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 4: but a couple definitely pointed at it and smiled appreciatively.

2335
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 4: You're taking over the world, boys, Luke in the to

2336
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 4: catch your predator circles. We're huge. Apparently this is great, right, I.

2337
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Know, it's like when you got recognized, I mean, like,

2338
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 2: my what the like? What you do exactly?

2339
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 4: H Look, you know Appy is also a girl dad

2340
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 4: like you and the lake Kobe Bryant, Luke, So do

2341
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 4: you do you see like the the truth come out

2342
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 4: of him in these at home moments.

2343
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Hard to say if he was a if he was

2344
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 3: a real well, I won't say that, but you know,

2345
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I want to know what

2346
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,759
Speaker 3: fucking nineteen twenties Russian roller coaster he's on that's covered

2347
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 3: in rust.

2348
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 4: I think he's on the pirate ship. Look, if you

2349
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 4: put me on the pirate ship at this age, I

2350
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 4: will throw up instantly.

2351
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 3: Okay, what was the last time you were on a

2352
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 3: like a real batshit crazy roller coaster?

2353
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 4: I went to Uh, there's a there's a small park

2354
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 4: in Connecticut across from ESPN called Lake Compounds, but they

2355
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 4: do have a pretty well renowned Boulder Dash coaster. It's wooden,

2356
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 4: but it's fast and rickety as shit. I remember when

2357
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 4: I would work at ESPN and then we would go

2358
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 4: once a year to the party at that park. I

2359
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 4: could handle it at ESPN family that yes, Mikey, Mikey

2360
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 4: up there, Mikey Mormons. I can handle it, Luke, but

2361
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 4: it would hurt, but I do it all right, dude.

2362
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 4: I brought my wife and I brought the kids. Last

2363
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 4: summer to this park and I did that, and dude,

2364
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 4: I I when I say, it fucked me up, like

2365
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 4: I was crippled the rest of the day, bending over,

2366
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 4: ready to throw up, like all parts of my body aching, Like,

2367
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 4: Luke it, dude, it's not fair. I mean, I get

2368
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 4: a two beer hangover still, so it's still not fair there.

2369
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 4: But Luke, it's really not fair. It's really not It's

2370
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 4: just not like.

2371
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy.

2372
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 3: It's fucking crazy due when my in laws from Columbia

2373
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 3: come here, it's the only thing they want to do.

2374
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 3: I think they do have theme parks in Columbia in

2375
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 3: some places, but they're not that great. So like six

2376
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,560
Speaker 3: Flags here which is not far from my house, or

2377
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 3: there's King's Dominion down ninety five just north good part, yeah, part,

2378
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 3: so they always want to go there. Here's a little

2379
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 3: pop quiz. I didn't realize it's either. Do you know

2380
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: how they say roller coaster in Spanish? Have you ever

2381
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: heard this? No, I'm going to fuck the words up

2382
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 3: because my Spanish blows tanyas Russias Russian mountains, that's what

2383
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 3: they call them. They don't call him roller coaster, they

2384
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 3: call him Russian mountains. They are addicted to going to

2385
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 3: six Flags, and shit, I have to go several times

2386
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 3: a year as a consequence.

2387
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Luke shout out to Appy and the family there,

2388
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 4: But I really wish I could go on rides. It's

2389
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 4: it sucks so bad. It sucks. I wish there was

2390
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 4: like a pill you could take.

2391
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 5: Is there?

2392
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 4: Maybe I can man up? How about that?

2393
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: Yes? Whatever Ozzy Osbourne has been taking for the last.

2394
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,759
Speaker 4: Thirty Yes, Okay, I can snore Heroin through my eyes,

2395
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 4: is what you're saying. Okay, great, finally we have danger

2396
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 4: mouse sliding in. He says, Hey, BC, I'm back like

2397
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 4: a jilted lover. After the production team passed over my

2398
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 4: Margaritaville art last week, I did see this on read it.

2399
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 2: I think luc it was.

2400
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,600
Speaker 4: Pretty good and they broke my month's long streak of

2401
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: fan subs. Well, I can't take it out on them.

2402
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 4: I've tried. They just censor it, so you bitches are

2403
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 4: getting it instead. So let's talk about this so called

2404
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 4: relationship you have with Luke.

2405
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Hugging Luke, no hugging Michael.

2406
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 3: Look at this, Lucas When VC just dives straight in

2407
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,879
Speaker 3: for the manhug with a relative stranger.

2408
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: Dude, that is so fucking fuck?

2409
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 5: Is it me?

2410
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 2: Is a my deodor at? What is it? BC?

2411
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, Luke well if they will have to

2412
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 4: dig deeper on the next MK doc.

2413
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,600
Speaker 2: If that is, dude, I didn't even put two or

2414
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: two together. That is so fucking I have offered for us.

2415
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 4: To go to MK couple's therapy for the doc and

2416
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 4: you have not taken me up on that. The next

2417
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 4: one from Danger Mouse, he says, time now for me

2418
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 4: to be the voice of the Morning Combat chat room

2419
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 4: and make their feelings known about a certain social media

2420
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 4: presence who's been receiving a lot of attention recently. Luke

2421
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 4: is probably not going to like this one, which means

2422
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 4: he will really hate the dirty version that I suspect

2423
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 4: will only make it to the production team's private chat.

2424
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 4: Let's see what he's saying.

2425
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 2: Here, Luke, can you blow it up? I can't see it.

2426
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: That is blown up.

2427
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 4: It says Morning Combat twenty twenty. On top, there's the

2428
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 4: meme of you playing.

2429
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 3: Drug Actually, so take twenty five talk about Jake Paul

2430
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 3: or take twenty five no in twenty twenty and then

2431
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two I'm interviewing the guy.

2432
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Oh that's like Rain's World, Luke, Look

2433
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: at first of.

2434
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 3: All, very funny, it's very fine. I'm not mad at

2435
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 3: it at all. Listen, guys, I would like to do

2436
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 3: good things at showtime. I'm trying to be a good soldier.

2437
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 3: It comes with talking to Jake Paul. I had a

2438
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 3: short conversation with him. It is lampoonable.

2439
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind that. But your boy is trying to

2440
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 2: be a good soldier.

2441
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, keep it up, you're doing great. Uh he's

2442
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 4: got one more on the same subject. Apparently this danger mouse.

2443
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 2: Luke. Hey, let's see, all right, you know what.

2444
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 4: Look this isn't dead wrong, but you know, we do

2445
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 4: stay accountable even in fan subs.

2446
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 3: Luke, Yes, listen, they know they have a right to

2447
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 3: roast us, and they should. By the way, is that

2448
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 3: Gavin and Gwen in the back there?

2449
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 4: It is?

2450
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 2: It is. What's Gavin's last name from Bush Rosedale? Rosedale?

2451
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 2: That's its Dale? Yeah right, yeah, dude. Remember in high

2452
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: school every chick wanted to bang him? Remember that?

2453
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 4: Oh? Hell yeah, I think I did two for a

2454
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 4: hot second there. Look they were hot. They had a minute.

2455
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 4: I think the thing about them is they didn't have

2456
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 4: a sustainability of great albums, but they had at least

2457
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 4: what I would consider five like top tier radio tracks

2458
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:20,759
Speaker 4: like rock everything.

2459
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 2: Zen and Glycerine are the two biggest ones.

2460
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, yes, there's like three other you know, Machine

2461
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 4: had Long Island, Luke Offering, there's like, I think there's

2462
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 4: at least five, and they're like three of those. At

2463
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 4: least three of those five Luke are like top tier

2464
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 4: nineties radio rock songs, you know what I mean.

2465
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 2: Like Jess, I agree with that.

2466
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 3: They had two albums that like that one album, I

2467
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 3: forget what the name of it was, sixteen Stones that hell, yeah,

2468
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 3: that one was.

2469
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I cannot overstate how big that album was.

2470
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 2: Here fucking I liked it.

2471
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 4: So I liked Live more than them, But I think

2472
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 4: in hindsight, I should have switched that Luke.

2473
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 3: So Live had the good two albums, culminating in Throwing Copper. Yes,

2474
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 3: but they had an album after that where one of

2475
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 3: the Eric's one of the songs was this puke Stinks

2476
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 3: like Beer and it was the worst.

2477
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 4: Fucking So you're talking about the Secret Somadi album, which

2478
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: had the hit that no one talks about which was

2479
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 4: great called turn my head. Yeah that was you know

2480
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 4: I had that, I had that one tool.

2481
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 2: Okay, you would agree.

2482
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 3: Throwing copper though, that's peak live, right, That's like that's

2483
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: APEX Live.

2484
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 4: Dude, that that's peak nineties. Like you know, I'm not

2485
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 4: like like Wallflowers bringing down the horse. I'm not here

2486
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 4: to tell you live throwing copper is a five star

2487
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 4: go out and buy tomorrow. But it's peak fucking nineties. Luke.

2488
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, what did the nineties feel like?

2489
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,640
Speaker 4: It sound like? And I'll throw that up there that

2490
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 4: that you know, that's my life, Luke.

2491
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 2: All right, so you see, let's let's talk about this

2492
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 2: out loud.

2493
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 3: We have a choice to make here. We're waiting on

2494
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 3: tom aspinall if they could give us an update in

2495
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 3: the chat. We don't have them yet. In fact, they

2496
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 3: wrote still no sign of him, which is always a

2497
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 3: good call. You know how this goes, b Se. We've

2498
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 3: been doing fighter interviews for a long time. Sometimes they

2499
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 3: show up, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they get the time

2500
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 3: zone right, sometimes they don't. Uh so they're talking to

2501
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 3: the PR lady, how long do you want to wait?

2502
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 3: That's the question you have to ask herself.

2503
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 4: Are you saying that you don't want to wait for

2504
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 4: your life to be over? Luke? Yeah, I think we're

2505
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 4: It looks like we're still getting him, Luke. I mean

2506
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 4: she had two babies, Luke. One was six months, one

2507
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 4: was three. Okay, The War of forty four, Yeah, I

2508
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 4: mean I'll wait, Luke, because no one likes fhilling. Look,

2509
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 4: I got to talk to you about something here. It's

2510
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 4: not the Thor movie review, which was way way over

2511
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 4: the top, Luke.

2512
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if you like that movie, it's a Garan.

2513
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm all out there, Okay. I've had

2514
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 4: people in our MK universe who I know are cool,

2515
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 4: be like Luke was wrong.

2516
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 5: That was a pretty damn good movie.

2517
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 3: That movie is terrible and anyone who likes it is

2518
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 3: off off the list of anyone whose opinion you should

2519
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 3: ever take seriously.

2520
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 4: And I did want to shout out just Joel Luke,

2521
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 4: He's not you know, he sent us those T shirts.

2522
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 4: I wore one during our use Rock Mind interview. Our

2523
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 4: staff was overjoyed shout out to just Joel of Okella, Florida,

2524
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 4: that guy Luke is a Mick mashup. DJ mixed Master, Luke. Okay,

2525
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 4: right there, he's mixed art for a living. But here's

2526
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 4: what I wanted to talk to you about. All Right,

2527
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 4: my wife's away, so I've been doing the mister mom

2528
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 4: thing and it's you know, dude, we don't we don't

2529
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 4: deserve them, Luke. They are the most organized, incredible people

2530
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 4: of all time. And me trying to fill you know,

2531
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 4: missus Campbell's shoes here as a debacle. But I did

2532
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 4: get some great time with the boys, with the bros. Dude,

2533
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: we watched we crunched like five straight episodes of The

2534
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 4: Obi Wan Show last night. I had only previously seen

2535
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 4: the debut episode. Dude, this is this is gold. Well, Luke,

2536
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 4: this is gold. Dude, this is really good.

2537
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's unpack this a little bit.

2538
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 4: Please.

2539
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 3: Where do you rank that season, which I think might

2540
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 3: be the only one, But where do you rank it

2541
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 3: relative to first season of Mandalorian?

2542
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 2: I like it better and high.

2543
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's always debatable, dude. I loved the man,

2544
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 4: loved the Mandalorian. Okay, I really liked Rebels the cartoon.

2545
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 4: I didn't go too deep on the other cartoon. Look,

2546
01:52:58,080 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 4: although I hear it's great, but you know, I don't

2547
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 4: know if I like that shit. But Luke and I

2548
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 4: didn't watch the Uh what's that? What's that other Mandalorian

2549
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 4: who has a show?

2550
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Book of Boba Fett. I didn't.

2551
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 4: I didn't watch that yet. The reviews are bad, but

2552
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 4: I will eventually. Luke, I was blown away at how

2553
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 4: good this was. Dude, are you serious? Like the young

2554
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 4: Leayo was amazing. I mean, dude, Vader, I mean, come on,

2555
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 4: I was kind of like marking out here.

2556
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: So here's what I would say.

2557
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 3: I didn't see a Book of Boba Fett, but I'm

2558
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 3: sure it's trash because even people who like Star Wars

2559
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 3: didn't like it all that much.

2560
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put it last.

2561
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 3: Mandalorian is clearly the best television show that Disney Plus

2562
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 3: has made relative to Star Wars, at least live action.

2563
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 3: I've not seen enough of the cartoons. I'm gonna put

2564
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 3: this one in the middle. And the reason why I'm

2565
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 3: saying that is because I do think there are certain

2566
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 3: episodes or parts of episodes that are actually really cool

2567
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 3: and really good. I did not hate it, but I

2568
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 3: don't think you can look past like that scene in

2569
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 3: one of those episode one or two where Flea is

2570
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 3: like chasing Lea and it's the most low budget piece

2571
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 3: of shit fucking scene you've ever seen in your own Like,

2572
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 3: was this show expensive or cheap to produce? I can't

2573
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 3: tell because where it looks nice and they actually did

2574
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 3: a good job with like the character development with the

2575
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 3: third sister all in fine.

2576
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 4: I've never seen high, bigger highs or lower lows in cinematography, Luke.

2577
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 4: And you know me, I normally don't harp on that

2578
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 4: until nineteen seventeen came out and I had a you know,

2579
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 4: cinematic orgasm over and over, Luke. But there are moments

2580
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 4: like the fire scene with Vader on one side and

2581
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 4: Obi Wan and the other that where it's the shots,

2582
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 4: the shadow and the reflection in the Vader.

2583
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just those were good. Yeah, it's like.

2584
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 4: It's amazing, and you're right, there are other scenes where

2585
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 4: it's just like, but I don't think it. I don't

2586
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 4: think that's enough of a fat, flat tire, Luke. And

2587
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 4: I also was nervous that they were gonna be too

2588
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 4: aggressive and telling the storyline of what happened in that

2589
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 4: gap between you know episodes three and four in the

2590
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 4: in the normal Star Wars line, you know of a timeline,

2591
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 4: and I think even though they actually were really aggressive,

2592
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 4: it worked. Like I want to hate this whole lay

2593
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 4: of thing, but I can't. It's really good, Luke.

2594
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 3: Again, didn't hate it, didn't hate it. But I think

2595
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 3: Mandalorian is leagues above it, leagues of them.

2596
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 4: Maybe you are just a hater. Maybe that's it, Luke.

2597
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I think. I think.

2598
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: I think the world is filled with a lot of

2599
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 3: simpletons who let their kid like romanticism cloud their judgment

2600
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 3: about what is actually good and what is actually not.

2601
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 2: Dude, that New Thorn movie is bad. It is bad.

2602
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 2: It is not good at all.

2603
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 3: A couple of decent action scenes, the GNR you know

2604
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 3: stuff is you know, can't go wrong with GNR.

2605
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 2: Christian Bale amazing. Everything else about that movie is garbage.

2606
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 3: And I don't think people actually watch very good movies

2607
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 3: enough to know what a very good movie looks like

2608
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 3: and what the fuck.

2609
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 4: That is due to me? All all, all these superhero

2610
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: movies are bullshit, Luke. I was entertained by that one.

2611
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 4: Maybe I should watch them more. Okay, maybe I'll get

2612
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 4: back to you what I'll say.

2613
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: If you like that one, you will love Thor Ragnarok,

2614
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 3: which was, by the way, the same director made both

2615
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 3: of those, which is kind of weird because you've got

2616
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 3: that one right, and they went really long. But like

2617
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 3: the Thor movies in general, like Thor, Dark World, and Ship,

2618
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 3: I didn't love. I didn't hate, but I didn't love

2619
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 3: all that much. But there are definitely better Thor movies.

2620
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 4: Everybody was like, BC, you gotta watch Deadpool. That's gonna

2621
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 4: be your your entry into this. That's your your type

2622
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: of superhero movie. I tried, Luke. I was like twenty

2623
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 4: minutes in and I was like, this blows. I'm out

2624
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 4: of here, Luke. All right, I was out of there.

2625
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 4: I never came back.

2626
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 2: Where are you on Spider Man?

2627
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't touch that shit either, Okay, Luke, I.

2628
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 2: Think Spider Man is a little overrated, but I do

2629
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: like Spider Man.

2630
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 4: I don't touch you know, No, I'm not really into

2631
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 4: any of that stuff, you know, I got a harsher. No,

2632
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

2633
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2634
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 4: I didn't even watch those Batman ones until we did

2635
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 4: for that extra credit homework. It was really good, but

2636
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 4: you know, I also don't chase that stuff either, Luke.

2637
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 4: Oh wait, we were chasing this came out?

2638
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 3: What's the war movie you haven't seen yet? Where I

2639
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 3: lost my fucking mind? Do you remember, oh run?

2640
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you've seen Saving

2641
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: Private Ryan, right.

2642
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 4: Okay, but don't forget that was my That was my

2643
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 4: early pandemic project, which led to a lot of drinking

2644
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 4: and a little bit of depression. So maybe that was

2645
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 4: the best route. But I ended up watching all of them.

2646
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 3: Remember, no, there was we talked about it recently. There

2647
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 3: was one you, oh, black Hawk Down. You haven't seen, right, right,

2648
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 3: I have.

2649
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 4: Not seen that. You're saying that's in the pantheon. I

2650
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 4: need to instantly add it, and.

2651
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how Okay, it's definitely very very

2652
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 3: good already, it's I mean, I'm not going to call

2653
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 3: it a top five war movie.

2654
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that.

2655
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 3: But like, if you want to say you've seen some

2656
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 3: of the better war movies, you have to have at

2657
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 3: least judged Black Hawk Down. It's a true story. It's

2658
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: a true story.

2659
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 4: By the way, I like the hurt Locker a lot

2660
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 4: more than most people. I thought that was great.

2661
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 2: Hurt Locker's very good. Hurt Locker's really good.

2662
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 4: You know it's it's yeah. I mean the best are

2663
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 4: probably the you know, Deer Hunter Apocalypse.

2664
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 2: Now, you know what I'm saying, what do we got, Corey?

2665
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,640
Speaker 2: Talk to me, Corey?

2666
01:57:58,640 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 4: Why don't you just be honest?

2667
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 2: Are they gonna get them? Or what's the deal? Okay?

2668
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean, because we you know, we're trying to keep

2669
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 3: this ship afloat, and the audience is going to be

2670
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 3: checking out here pretty soon, and I wouldn't blame them.

2671
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 4: So we're like a ship of fools.

2672
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 2: You know, Cinderella is going to turn back into a

2673
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 2: pumpkin here here fairly fairly soon. Uh BC.

2674
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: I did finish two shows recently. I finished season three,

2675
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 3: Season three of The Umbrella Academy.

2676
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: Have you seen those?

2677
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 4: Still? Have not seen that? You did recommend that in

2678
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 4: the past.

2679
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 3: Yes, Season three is a little weird but decent, decent.

2680
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 3: And then what was the other one I finished recently?

2681
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 3: I was watching it with my wife. Oh, The Boys

2682
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:47,720
Speaker 3: season four? I think whatever the latest one was? That

2683
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 3: one is very good. I love the Boys. The Boys

2684
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 3: is like, so I didn't realize this due let me

2685
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 3: pitch this to you real quickly, and everyone kind of

2686
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 3: tells it wrong until I heard this from someone else.

2687
01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 3: The guy who wrote the original for the Boys actually

2688
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 3: hates superheroes and thinks the whole thing is phony and

2689
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 3: bullshit and that this idea that they would ever be

2690
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 3: like bastions of morality and good faith is completely the

2691
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 3: opposite of what it actually is. So he writes into

2692
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 3: these characters not just the opposite of what you might imagine,

2693
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 3: but like real depravity, mendacity, you know, sinister, backstabbing, fucking

2694
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 3: thin skinned, every character flaw you could imagine they have.

2695
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 3: And to me, it works, dude, it completely works.

2696
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 4: And not just spending a day at the Malco office. Right,

2697
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 4: I will look out for Long Island. Luke just gave

2698
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 4: a double throw down on that. Luke that that is

2699
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 4: a great show.

2700
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 2: The Boys.

2701
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 4: All right, I'll you know, look, I'll try your your shit.

2702
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll stay, but I'll try it

2703
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 4: for sure.

2704
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: It's gory though.

2705
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 4: It's gory, all right, I mean, you know if gory

2706
01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 4: is artie, I can, you know, I can.

2707
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: It's a little gory.

2708
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 3: I mean there's a scene where one guy jumps into

2709
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 3: another guy's dick and then explodes.

2710
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. So just going to point that out,

2711
02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 2: we'll probably get demonetized.

2712
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 3: Now.

2713
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 4: I believe we're close to getting tom aspinall here, Luke.

2714
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 3: I don't know how close we actually are, you know,

2715
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm actually skeptical that we're going to get him at

2716
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 3: this point.

2717
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be beyond brand on par with

2718
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 4: your history in terms of This.

2719
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 3: Is why from the beginning of this show, when we

2720
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 3: created it in twenty nineteen, this is why I was like,

2721
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 3: I really don't want to do We can do interviews,

2722
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 3: but I don't want to do him as part of

2723
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 3: the show. It's because it's actually and I tried to

2724
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 3: them in a hour as well. Like Aeriel makes it

2725
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 3: look a lot easier than it is, it is extremely

2726
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,960
Speaker 3: difficult to coordinate this stuff in ways that most people

2727
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:45,720
Speaker 3: cannot imagine.

2728
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 4: So well, our team has tried hard, Luke. If we

2729
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 4: get it, we get it all right, shout out how

2730
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 4: much longer you want to wait?

2731
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 2: Look? I can do this all day, I know, but

2732
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 2: we shouldn't though. That's the thing, you know, this, this is.

2733
02:00:58,920 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 5: What I do.

2734
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 4: Look a lot of people speculating that, you know, I

2735
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 4: let things go a little bit too far that the

2736
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 4: black shoe polish is coming back, Luke, and I don't

2737
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 4: did you die again? No, I've been going full on

2738
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 4: gread to my wife's Detrick. Yeah, she doesn't like it.

2739
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 4: She's like holding that stuff. Luke, You're not that old.

2740
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

2741
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 4: So I'm at a crossroads right now, Luke.

2742
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 3: Okay, has your wife ever commented on how I look

2743
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 3: grayer than Gandalf?

2744
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,200
Speaker 4: Maybe a couple of times. But she, you know, from

2745
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 4: a distance, she seems to like you.

2746
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 2: Luke.

2747
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 4: You know you're my business partner, you're my editorial husband.

2748
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, speaking to which we were.

2749
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 3: You know, we still haven't gotten the families together for

2750
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 3: some complicated reasons. Are we gonna get them together in

2751
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two?

2752
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 2: Yes? I think so.

2753
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Luke, it's I'm bringing I'm

2754
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 3: bringing my fam up, I think for because my birthday

2755
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 3: is the day before the Jake Paul fight. Yeah, I've

2756
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 3: still got a bunch of friends from when I lived

2757
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 3: in New York who are still there. I think I'm

2758
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 3: gonna bring the tukester and wow, it's up to New

2759
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 3: York work on that Friday.

2760
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2761
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 4: Wow, maybe you guys can you know, look around at

2762
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 4: potential rentals or you know, for sale opportunities, Luke, No.

2763
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 2: New York is prohibitively expensive.

2764
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean you know there's Jersey and ct as well

2765
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 4: in this tri state yacht. You know what I mean.

2766
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're like, you can buy the nice one,

2767
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 3: or you can go get these rusted old pieces of shit.

2768
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 2: You can go and get them. Well, why would I

2769
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 2: want those? Why would I want those? You know what

2770
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying?

2771
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 4: Look, will you be seeing any concerts this summer?

2772
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:36,640
Speaker 3: So yes, I My wife bought the tickets in twenty nineteen,

2773
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 3: before the pandemic. I'm going to see, actually, the week

2774
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 3: of the Jake Paul fight, I'm going to see Rage

2775
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 3: against the Machine and.

2776
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 2: The Jewels.

2777
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 4: Okay, that's there. I hear there that Rage on this

2778
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 4: comeback have have been very good, Luke, That's what I hear.

2779
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I guess there's a bunch of people who

2780
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 3: are confused about their politics, not realizing that they have

2781
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 3: always been this way, which is kind of funny, but

2782
02:02:58,720 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 3: either way, I don't care.

2783
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm going to go see them here in d C.

2784
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 3: And let's see what else I was supposed to see

2785
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 3: Dying Fetus when they came to Baltimore.

2786
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,160
Speaker 2: I missed it. I'm going to try and catch them.

2787
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 2: Maybe this show.

2788
02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 3: Oh and you know what, I might go to that

2789
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 3: Hate Breed show as well. When Hate Breed comes with

2790
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 3: Anthrax and Black Label Society.

2791
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. PR just canceled it. Dude, did

2792
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 2: I call it? Or did I fucking call it? How

2793
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 2: did you know? You know?

2794
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,080
Speaker 4: Pessimism wins, Luke? Okay in this in this instance, for

2795
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 4: you take your victory, lab I told you it was

2796
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 4: all gonna fall apart BC.

2797
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 2: This is a dude, this is what. There's many reasons

2798
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 2: why I don't like doing fighter interviews. This is one

2799
02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 2: of them.

2800
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 4: I give them. I give our staff a credit for

2801
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 4: being for trying to jump through hoops for that and

2802
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 4: shout out to u FCPR if it didn't work out.

2803
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 4: It didn't work out, but we were I enjoy I

2804
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 4: enjoy working with those folks a lot, Luke.

2805
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 2: I wanted you to know that.

2806
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I agree, I hold Let me shout to

2807
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 3: the mulcastaff and to Mikey and everyone else on the

2808
02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 3: staff who tried to make it happen.

2809
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:00,080
Speaker 2: I know you did work hard. To get it. It

2810
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 2: didn't work out, but fellas and I warned you three

2811
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 2: years ago this is what happens.

2812
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 4: Just want to point well, Luke, let's close with this is.

2813
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 4: I know we haven't really you know, breached the subject

2814
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 4: of divorce since Doc two was a great storyline, though, Luke,

2815
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 4: you know you and I are getting along really well lately,

2816
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 4: but shout out to Jesus and Merrill. They got divorced.

2817
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 2: Luke, Oh dude, I hope you know.

2818
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 4: Did you you know suddenly look at our union and say, man,

2819
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,320
Speaker 4: how strong is this really?

2820
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Well, we are eventually going

2821
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: to try and kill each other.

2822
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 3: I do think that's true. But we have to worry

2823
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 3: about getting Jesus and Marrow's success levels before we can

2824
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 3: worry about Like, those guys are so wildly successful, they're

2825
02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 3: probably like, Yo, fuck that guy. You'll fuck that guy.

2826
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 3: I think you and I looked in the mirror, We're like,

2827
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 3: we're two fucking losers.

2828
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 2: Who you know? This life raft needs a couple of

2829
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:54,560
Speaker 2: people to make it float, you know what I'm saying.

2830
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 4: So if it comes down to it and the boat

2831
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 4: is sinking, I'll stay with you on that raft.

2832
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, I'll stay on that. Right, we'll drown together.

2833
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 3: B See, we'll drown together. That's a really more of

2834
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 3: a way of putting things.

2835
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Hey, want to.

2836
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,880
Speaker 3: Remind folks, we've got merch Morningcombat dot Store. We do

2837
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 3: have fighter interviews, just not when we're.

2838
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 2: Supposed to have them.

2839
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:17,000
Speaker 3: You can get those YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat

2840
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 3: Showtime label that pays Showtime dot Com thirty day free trophy.

2841
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 2: Like it, you can keep it. If not, you can

2842
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 2: bounce b.

2843
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 3: See any final thoughts here as we lingered with the

2844
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 3: audience unnecessary.

2845
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Morningcombat dot Store for our merch. Check that out.

2846
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 4: And if you lingered and you like this type of free,

2847
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, to be fair, some people still want

2848
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:38,080
Speaker 4: room service diaries one point oh, because they just want

2849
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 4: to hear us bullshit.

2850
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Maybe one day we'll bring it

2851
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 2: back in.

2852
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,480
Speaker 4: You know, I'd like to bring Happy Hour back Luke

2853
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:47,320
Speaker 4: on this show, or we just you know, no script

2854
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 4: and we just go just go.

2855
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 2: I just don't drink like that anymore.

2856
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 4: No, no, do you have to drink, Luke. You're just

2857
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 4: having a conversation with another man.

2858
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, but if I asked you to hang out.

2859
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:00,200
Speaker 2: You always tell me no.

2860
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 4: God, what kind of marriage do you think?

2861
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 5: This is? Luke?

2862
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 4: All right, I have but sorry, I'm tired. I have

2863
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 4: to watch to wash my hair. I come on, this

2864
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 4: is so weird.

2865
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 2: Let's call it a day.

2866
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 3: Let's call it a day for the Malka crew and

2867
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:17,240
Speaker 3: everyone at CBS Sports who tried to help us get

2868
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 3: this done and it didn't work. Thank you for making

2869
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 3: it happen or doing your best anyway, for Malka, for

2870
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 3: showtime for CBS Sports. There he is, that's the King

2871
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 3: of Connecticut, Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. We will join

2872
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 3: you on Friday for a full weekend preview of fights.

2873
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 3: Until then, may all of your games be loyal.