1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hole on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to our Chiefs game preview edition of the Giant 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Suttle podcast. John Smoke with you big show coming your 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: way today. Dori Jackson joins me first to preview the Chiefs, 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: but more importantly talk about the Giants defense and himself. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: It's it's a good interview, not just game preview stuff, 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: with a lot of the good stuff in there as well. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Then you have Adam Tysher joining, Lance Meadow and Paul 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the Tino he covers the Chiefs for ESPN. And then 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: we have Joe Judge joining the Voice of the Giants 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: Bob Papa. But first, The Giants Little Podcast can be 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: found on the Giants Mobile app, at Giants dot com, 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: slash Podcast, and on all your favorite podcast platforms. Find 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: the subscribe. If you're on Apple Podcast, please leave a 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: five star positive review. If you know friends that are 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Giant fans, tell about the podcast. We love to have 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: you on board. All right, let's go to our first 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: guest or. Dorri Jackson joined me to talk about Giants 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs and how he's improved in the defense so far 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: this year and what the defense did so right against 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Carolina last week. Jory, thanks so much for being with us, man. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having all right. I want to 24 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: look back to last week very quickly, when you guys 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: sat down looked at the tape against Carolina. What are 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: some of the things you think you did better in 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: that game then you did maybe a couple of the 28 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: previous ones that ended up in better results. I think 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: just having a h a lot of fun out there 30 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: and sharing each other on and letting that field. When 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: somebody made a play, the next person wanted to make 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: a play. So I think building off that and just 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,279 Speaker 1: trying to be consistent and understanding that. I mean throughout 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: the course of the game, maybe ups and downs, maybe 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: three and hours, maybe short field changes and uh, just 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: think about it. Another opportunity to play and get better 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: and to perform and you know, try to display yourself 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and who you want to be. So I think that's 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: what we did better last week. One thing coach Judge 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: talked about and also Patrick Graham last week, how you 41 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: guys worked a lot on some of the more fundamental 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: parts of coverage in practice and in zone in terms 43 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: of getting the right depth eyes on the quarterback, breaking 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: on the bullets, and on the air. And you guys 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: played almost exclusively zone against Carolina. You had some man 46 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: in there, but it was a lot of own How 47 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: do you think that manifested himself in terms of how 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: you executed that zone defense on game day? Think about 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: communication and everybody coming together and trying to be on 50 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: the same page and not just having ten people or 51 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: eight people on the same page. You need all eleven 52 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: and then everybody just doing their job, understanding that the 53 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: guy next someone a brother. We do their jobs. So 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: I think that helped out a lot um just about 55 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: communicating and understanding, all right, this is what we're seeing, 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: how do you see it? And then if we can 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: have a conversation about that and I understand, all right, 58 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: well they're seeing like this, Well this is a troublesome 59 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: for you. This might be better if I help you 60 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: do this. So just trying to be there for each 61 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: other to help you shout out all right. So let's 62 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: now talk about this week. Unfortunately, you lost one of 63 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: your leaders, Jabrol Peppers in that game with the knee injury. 64 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I know you have other leaders in your group. You know, 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Logan Ryan's a great leader, but you know, since I've 66 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: been here, Jabbra has always had just that effervescent energy 67 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: where you feel him when he walks in a room. Right, So, 68 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: how are you guys gonna move forward now without him 69 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: being there with you on the practice field and of 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: course in your meeting rooms during the week. I think, 71 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: just trying to be there for him. I understand that, 72 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, him doing all that he's done, not just 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: for the position group or the defense, but as the 74 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: team in general. UM, just try to be there for 75 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: him and play for him, you know, saying the way 76 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: we try to do for Blake or or road Darius. 77 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: The guys on the defensive end, you know that we 78 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, appreciate a lot so UM, I think you know, 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: from that aspect, just try to make them proud and 80 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: make them proud as an example of all the guys 81 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: that are hurt on defense, you know, UM, just trying 82 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: to make them proud and black o men they're happy 83 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: and see us succeed because at the end of the day, 84 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: I mean, there's still a part of this team, and 85 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: there's still a part of us, and I feel like 86 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: that's how we're gonna have to go about it. Is 87 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: this what a guy like Julian Love. You know, you 88 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate having a Swiss army knife like that in 89 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: the team where he can do a little bit of 90 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: all the types of things that that pep can do 91 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: on the field. Obviously different players, but Love can step 92 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: in and do those same sorts of things that he 93 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: can just be there waiting and now the opportunities there 94 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: for him. Now you appreciate that a lot. I mean 95 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: some people might take it for granted. I say, oh, 96 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: you need to learn how to just do one thing 97 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: or do this, But having somebody gonna do uh, multiple 98 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: of things and do them, well, um, it's good to 99 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: have because you never know the situation where it may be, 100 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: or even if you're in that situation. He's able to 101 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: give you insight of oh man, when I play, this 102 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: is what I see, this is what I do. So 103 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: I think having somebody that is able to be a 104 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Swiss armor knife and do different things is great for 105 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: not just a team, but for you as a player 106 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: in general because he can help you out. You know, 107 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: we talked this offseas when you got here. How Patrick 108 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: Graham is not made a mystery of it. His scheme. 109 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: We we can change a lot. It could be a 110 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: little complicated. How in it are you right now? Are 111 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: you now fully instinct? You totally get everything, it's ingrained 112 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: in you, and now you're just reacting. Where are you 113 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: in terms of being just in this system? I think 114 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of both. I mean, obviously 115 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: you gotta go out there and react and have instinct, 116 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: but at the same time take the instant bits then 117 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: that the coaches are giving you. Because um, everything is 118 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: evolved and everything is changed. It's just like you're playing 119 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: a game. You might see something the first quarter, second quarter, 120 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: you might get the same look, and then by time 121 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: half time coming some different. So now it's like here, 122 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I gotta adjust. And I feel like that's just about 123 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: the weeks um as you're going about defense and the 124 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: schemes and everything. It's just about adjusting and having that 125 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: mentally prepared. I think that's why. Uh, you know, PG 126 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: trusts us to do that and we just try to 127 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: go out there and execute. Are you enjoying playing the system? 128 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Is it fun for you? Like? Yeah, I have fun 129 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: and enjoy it. Man, great coming in the building. Uh, 130 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: you know happy, you know, seeing everybody be on the 131 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: talk to him, not just the players, but the coaches 132 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: as well, and just building that bond with them and 133 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: just trying to keep improving and get better and understanding that, Um, 134 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: we're just trying to showcase and be the best that 135 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: we can be and each week just get better and 136 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: try to be one and all. Now you've been asked 137 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: to move inside a little bit too. What has that 138 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: experience been like? Uh, it was cool. I will say 139 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: it was a challenge, but it was fun at the 140 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: same time because, um, we talked about well close it 141 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: was funny because I always talked about getting out of 142 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: my comfort zone and I feel like it helped me, 143 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, as as a player. And uh, coach Byrne's 144 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: birthday was the other day, and he talked about getting 145 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone and just me coming here 146 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: was getting out of my comfort zone doing different things 147 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: on whatever the team that asked me to do. Go 148 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: out there and play some special teams, Uh, maybe go 149 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: out there for the corner and when this part return 150 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: and trying to block. So I was just trying to 151 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: get out of my comfort zone. So being able to 152 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: play on the inside and do different things, just help 153 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: me as a player and help me understand, you know, 154 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: the game a little bit more and get different aspect 155 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: because log used to playing inside and you know, you 156 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: got Pep, you got durn A, you got Jay love 157 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you've got all these guys who've 158 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: been in the inside playing inside. So every time I'm 159 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: asking or have a questions, they say, they see me 160 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: do something, why would you do it like this? Or 161 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: they do something, why did you play like that? So 162 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just great to be able to 163 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: talk and communicate amost each other. Awesome. What was the 164 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: most challenging park going inside? Is it the two way 165 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: go without the sideline there? Is it having to be 166 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more physical and the run support being 167 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: in the slot? What was the biggest challenge for you 168 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: going in there? I think the biggest child. I think 169 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: understanding the different splits and the landmarks and different things 170 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: in that nature. I feel like Darnay Homes help me 171 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: out a lot with that, you know, And when you 172 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: say that, when you say different sports, and that can 173 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: sometimes telegraph the type of route they're gonna run. Right, 174 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, so certain spirits you can indicate they might 175 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: it could be this route, but you you just anticipate, 176 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: you don't guess, and so you just go out there 177 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: and play so and just having out awareness and understand that, Okay, 178 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: if he does this them, or if he does this 179 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: them and may lead to this and um, you know, 180 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and I would say Darnay helped me. I was out 181 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and then talking with Chep and Pettis and 182 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, having to go against these receivers and understand like, okay, 183 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: like why do you do like this? And why are 184 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: you playing like this? And what makes you do this? 185 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: If I'm doing this? And I feel like, I mean, 186 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: that's just a the great thing about football, just being 187 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: able to go against somebody and then help you out 188 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: and you help them out and then just keep building 189 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and keep getting better. So I think, and I wouldn't 190 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: say I mean it was a challenge, but it was. 191 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: It was one that I wanted to accept and have 192 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: fun with. One of the reasons that want John here 193 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Dory but starts talking about all this great stuff with 194 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: you and the Giants, was that decide you and Logan 195 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: are probably the two pre eminent chiefs ex F. It's 196 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: on the Stepen you guys have a lot of experience 197 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: playing them. I think I went back three games two 198 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Does that sound right to you? So 199 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: talk and talk to me. What is it like going 200 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: against Patrick Mahomes, Tyree Hill, Travis Kelsey and all the 201 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: other real dangerous monsters they have in that offensive. Um, 202 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: it's ah, I would say a pleasure because you don't 203 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: understand the opportunity and that presents itself. You don't understand 204 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: the magnitude of the people are going against and to 205 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: be able to you know, playing and compete. I mean, 206 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: it's feels like it's just all about competing. So the 207 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: first time we played them seventeen, um, came back nineteen, 208 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: playing them twice, UM, and I feel like it's just 209 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: always something new, something different. But at the end of 210 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the day, it's still the game within the game, and 211 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: you're just going out there and compete and trying to 212 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: have fun and trying to win your matchups you know, 213 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: every rep. You know, understanding like I said, it's gonna 214 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: be ups and down start the game, but trying to 215 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: win more than you lose. And um, yeah, it's just 216 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure. This fun, you know, to go against 217 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:08,359 Speaker 1: a hot powered offense against talented receivers, tight ends, running backs, quarterback, 218 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's it's 219 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure, you know, to be able to go 220 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: against a hot power office like that. I know you 221 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: guys don't pay attention to the outside noise, and you're 222 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: smart not to do it. But the big theme on 223 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: TV this week has been what's wrong with the Chiefs? Like, 224 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: what's the problem with the Chiefs? What's going on? That's 225 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: the guy that watches the tape. You know what Chiefs 226 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: looks like? You know what the Chiefs this year looks like. 227 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything even wrong with the Chiefs? Or is 228 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: just a couple of plays here and there aren't going 229 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: their way? Yeah, that's nothing wrong with the Chiefs. The 230 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs as the Chiefs. You know, one player may go 231 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: their way and then next you know they're they're up 232 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: about forty points. I mean, as you see, it's one 233 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: of those offenses where they talk about turn the switch 234 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: on or whatever may be. It just may some plays 235 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: may didn't go their way and other teams may capitalize. 236 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: But when the players do go their way, I mean, 237 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: you see, it's a different results. So, UM, I don't 238 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: think anything is wrong with the chiefs. The chiefs are 239 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: still the chiefs and can get after you. Now I'm 240 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: with you. Man. A couple more things. Their speed, How 241 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: does that stress specifically a secondary when you've got two 242 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: guys in hill and hard men who are four three 243 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: guys can run past anyone. How does that affect how 244 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: you guys have to approach what they do? Um? Just 245 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: being you know, technical sound, fundamental sound, and knowing where 246 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: your landmarks aren't, where your help is. Um. I feel 247 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: like that's the the biggest thing, knowing where your help 248 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: is and knowing the stress of what you're doing. So 249 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: if you're out there, I understand exactly. So whatever the call, 250 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe understand Okay, well this is gonna be the route 251 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: that's toughest on me, so try to take it right 252 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: out route and then play everything else. UM. So I 253 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: think and I think film study. UM, just going out there, 254 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: putting the reps and getting comfortable and understanding. Once you 255 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: you've put in the work and you've got this the 256 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: workers already put in, there's no need to you know, 257 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: be stressed, UM, to have any fear, have any doubt 258 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: because you put all the work in and now it's 259 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: just game day and you put all that stress in, 260 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: that fear or whatever it may be that you may 261 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: have during the week of practice and trying to stretch 262 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: yourself like Okay, I need to do this, I need 263 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: to get like this, and then when game times come, 264 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: just go out there and strap it up and play. 265 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: And what makes them dangerous to me? When I watch him? 266 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, you have the speed of wide receiver, then 267 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: you have Kelsey and then almost operate on two different 268 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: levels of the defense. Right, So if you worry about 269 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: the deep stuff, then what Kelsey's gonna kill you in 270 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: that intermediate range? Right? So how do you Is there 271 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: a way to cover both those at the same time, 272 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: or do you at some point kind of have to 273 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: pick your poison a little bit? Oh, I think it's 274 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: a little bit about picking up poison and just been 275 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: on top of your game. I think of it's like 276 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: playing like a Kevin Durant basketball. It's like, all right, 277 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you know he might go for he can shoot you 278 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: for sixty seventy points, but and then you're trying to 279 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: minimize and scoring as much as possible and do whatever 280 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: you can. You know, that's a hot part offense. In 281 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: order to score that many, they can take fifty shots, right, yeah, 282 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: just you just gotta keep going back to the drawing 283 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: board and trying to stop him. Man, I feel like, 284 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: you know with that, with that offense, that's a hot 285 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: power they are. It's like, all right, you know they're 286 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: gonna make place. You understand that, but don't beat yourself up. 287 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Don't get too hard on yourself. Just get back the 288 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: next play and just try to make him earn it. 289 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like, I mean, that's how you have 290 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: to try to go about the game. Understand that they're 291 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna make their plays. They'renna get their yards, they're going 292 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: to get a first down, they're gonna convert this, they're 293 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna convert that. But you gotta go out there and 294 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: strap it up the next play and keep competing. And 295 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: they make a lot of the big plays with off 296 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: schedule stuff, right mahome scrambles. You know that first initial 297 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: routes like nothing for that. It's like the second and 298 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: third play after the first route tree that they're gonna 299 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: get you on. Right, So are you just telling you 300 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: guys all telling yourselves in that defensive huddle before you 301 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: get on the field, covered the extra three seconds, covered 302 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: the extra four seconds, because that's when they're gonna get you. Right. Yeah, 303 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: you just work on plaster because you know, once he 304 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: gets out of the pocket, or even he's not out 305 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: of the pocket, he might just do that little side, 306 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: the little side of gallop that he does, do that 307 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: backpedal and sling the ball up. Um, just gotta be 308 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: on your man, and and and plaster because when you 309 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: don't or you see you know the film, I'm like, 310 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: like you said, they say, what's wrong with the cheese 311 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: when you look at the film, somebody don't plaster there. Man, 312 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: that's a cast that he might go for like ten 313 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: and may take it off for forty yards. You're rolling 314 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: right across his body left forty yards exactly. Crazy stuff. Yeah, 315 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: it does what I try to do them at a man. Absolutely, turnovers, 316 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: that's been a big problem for them this year. Turnovers 317 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: fascinating because I think a lot of them, a lot 318 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: of it's luck. Right the ball gets knocked in the 319 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: air and you can get it. You know. Other times 320 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: he forces things that aren't there. But as a defense, 321 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: is there something you guys can do well to help 322 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: force those types of plays that you can turn into takeaways. Um, 323 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I think what we can do or when the opportunities 324 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: present themselves, UM, just take advantage of them. Um. You 325 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: know that's what good football teams do. You know, they 326 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: take advantage of other people's You know, mistakes are bad football. 327 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: UM learned that in the past. So is that something 328 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: that drove you guys nuts on in the year because 329 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: you're the whole defense that opportunities one plays like that 330 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: and you just, for whatever reason, weren't making them. Yeah, 331 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: I just gotta capitalize on the understanding that, man, they 332 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: don't they don't come often, and so when they do come, 333 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: someone are gifts like oh man, I can't believe it, 334 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and you just have to capitalize on them. I think 335 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: that's one of the things. You don't want to force 336 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: or stress anything, but just be like a sound, fundamentally 337 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: sound playing position, doing your job and understanding that that 338 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: play comes your way or you see the look, man, 339 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: just make the play and that comes your way. Final question, 340 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: give the fans just a glimpse as a player, what 341 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like in that atmosphere in that stadium 342 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: against that team on a Monday night. It's gonna be 343 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: coold weather. What is it like playing in that environment 344 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: for a player? Man, it's exciting. Last time I was 345 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: there for a night game was two seventeen. We played 346 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: him in the playoffs. I think it was a wild 347 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: card game, right, yeah, it was, it was. It was 348 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: off the chain. I would saying, it's a great experience. Um, 349 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: it's a great time. Um, it's gonna be fun, um exciting. 350 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: And man, if you're gonna be there, put some warm 351 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: clothes off because you're gonna be sitting in the cold. 352 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: And some blue clothes too, right yeah, put that blue 353 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: ont just put that Giants on the Johnny Fans travel well, Dory, 354 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: We appreciate it, man, thanks a lot. Best to luck 355 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: on Monday night appreciation. Take care. That's Giants quarterback of 356 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson. Don't miss out on the return of New 357 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: York Giants football. Season is now on their way, but 358 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: there are still time to secure your season tickets and 359 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: root on your Giants right here and Metlive Stadium speak 360 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: with its Giants ticket representative now and become a season 361 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: ticket member by calling eight n YG Now. We're joined 362 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: by Adam Tisher. He had a chance to talk to 363 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: Paul Deatino and Lance Meadow. He covers the Chiefs for ESPN. 364 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: After two straight home games, the Giants head back on 365 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: the road for a Monday night showdown with the Chiefs 366 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: and to get more into Kansas City and what to 367 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: expect out of Anti reading company. In week eight, we 368 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: are now joined by Adam Tisher, ESPN, NFL Nation reporter 369 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. Adam, you got Lance Meadow and Paul 370 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: to Tino here. Greatly appreciate the time today. How's everything 371 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: on your end? God, how are you guys doing today? 372 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: We're doing very well and looking forward to this Monday 373 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: night game. And I never thought that we'd start off 374 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: this conversation. Adam entering week eight talking about the Chiefs 375 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: at three and four, considering how well they've been playing 376 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: over the last few years. But you look at the numbers, 377 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: my goodness. They lead the NFL with seventeen takeaways, tied 378 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: for the worst turnover differential in the NFL at minus ten. 379 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: They're moving the football. The offensive numbers show it, Adam, 380 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: the eye test shows it. I don't need to convince you, 381 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: so how much are the turnovers the main reason behind 382 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: why that's not matching? The point total end also the 383 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: result of these games, well, hey, it's the Chiefs had 384 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: a better turnover ratio, they'd have a better record, There's 385 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: no doubt, because you know, up until last week in Tennessee, 386 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: they had been when when they hadn't been turning it over, 387 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: they've been scoring points. I mean, they still were scoring 388 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: points at a pretty high rate despite the turnovers. But 389 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: last week in Tennessee they couldn't. They turned it over 390 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: three times, but they could have not turned it over 391 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: at all, and they still wouldn't have won that game. 392 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: So you know that last week was kind of a 393 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: its own special deal. And uh, you know, the Chiefs 394 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: probably they're not they're not going anywhere without fixing this 395 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: turnover froblem. They're not good enough on defense to overcome 396 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Uh basically, I think it's sixteen turnovers in the last 397 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: five games. They're they're just not good enough five defense 398 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: to overcome that. So the Chiefs are gonna have to 399 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: put up a big number every week in order to 400 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: win a game. And last week they were held to 401 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: a field goal, so clearly not good enough. So you know, 402 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: it's just one of those deals where they're gonna have 403 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: to figure this out. If they're going to get serious 404 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: about this season, Adam, there's no doubt that turnover ratio 405 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: is the number one statistic that's going to swing a 406 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: win or a loss either way. But we all know 407 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: on the football field, the game starts in the trenches. 408 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: And this Kansas City offensive line, which was totally rebuilt 409 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: after they were embarrassed by Tampa Bay in the Super Bowl, 410 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: just has not come together this year. Why do you 411 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: suppose they're having so many problems? Well, that's that's a 412 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: pretty long story. Um. You know, they've actually played well 413 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: with the three interior positions. It's to tackle. They've had 414 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem. They replaced their right 415 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: tackle a couple of weeks ago. Uh, Mike Grammers will 416 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: make his third Star of the season at right tackle, 417 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: or they benched the other guy, Lucas yang Um. Their 418 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: left tackle, Orlando Brown has still trying to establish himself 419 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: as a left tackle. It's not going really well. Um. 420 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: You know, Pat Mahomes hasn't helped things, and he tends 421 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: to drift in the pocket and that that's caused some 422 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: problems as well. So the Chiefs have a lot to 423 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: figure out here. The coordination between the quarterback and the 424 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: offensive line just hasn't been there. So you know, it's 425 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy that the opponents are not opponents aren't 426 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: blitzing the Chiefs. They just that's been a problem that 427 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes has picked that apart over the years, the 428 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: teams have quit blitzing the Chiefs. There Um, the Chiefs 429 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: of forty four dropped backs against Tennessee last week. The 430 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee blitzed one time, and yet the Titan's got pressure 431 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: on eighteen of those drop backs. So that that tells 432 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: you a little bit about where it's things are for 433 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: the Chiefs with their with their past protection, it's just 434 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: not it's not sinking upright. So the season, teams are 435 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: blitzing the Chiefs just thirteen percent at the time, but 436 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: they're getting pressure thirty six percent of the time. So 437 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: things aren't adding up to the Chiefs that way, and 438 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: that that's probably job one. They're gonna have to figure 439 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: that out on offense before they they're gonna stop the 440 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: turnover problem and get this thing turned around. Adam. When 441 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: we talk about the Chiefs offense, we always focus on 442 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the talent around Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, and Tyreek 443 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: Hills certainly have been delivering over the last few years, 444 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: But if you're pointing out the fact that teams are 445 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: not blitzing them, I'm curious your perspective as to the 446 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: necessity of a third and fourth option perhaps developing and 447 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: producing more consistently. Because I know a lot of people 448 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: talked about McCole Hardman maybe this could be a breakout year, 449 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: and then Byron Pringle, I think we've seen flashes, but 450 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily if I would view him as 451 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: a guy that's putting fear in opposing defenses. So how 452 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: imperative is it if defenses are not going to be 453 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: aggressive towards Mahomes that somebody not named Hill and Kelsey 454 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: starts to step up more consistently. Yeah, that's that is 455 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: a big thing that the Chiefs are gonna need that 456 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: as well, and that's why they sign Josh Gordon a 457 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He hasn't played a lot yet. 458 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: He's played some, but it's not been a consistent thing 459 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: for sure, And that's not that that's a surprise because 460 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: he got here so late in the middle of the season, 461 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: so he's still figuring out exactly what to do. But 462 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: um that that was the idea behind Josh Gordon because 463 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: none of the other receivers the Chiefs have have given 464 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: uh the the have have proved they can be a 465 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: consistent number two receivers. So the hope for the Chiefs 466 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: is that Gordon can be that guy. We'll see if 467 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: he develops into it. Of course, Edwards a layer with 468 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: the knee injury that impacts the running games significantly. And 469 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: when you consider their lead running back is out of 470 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: the lineup and the offensive line has a necessarily done 471 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: it's job, I think that tells you why the ground 472 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: attack has been sporadic at best. Yeah, they've been behind 473 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: a lot and they've I think, as any Reid usually is, 474 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: he's too quick. He's been too quick to give up 475 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: on the running game. I mean that can you know 476 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: that can be a quarterback's best friend that you know, 477 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: particularly one is not playing as well as he has before. 478 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: So I think the Chiefs that that's something that could 479 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: help the Chiefs is being a little more patient with 480 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: the run game. And Clyde Rosa won't play on Sunday, 481 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: but I feel like there are other backs and Darryl 482 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Williams in particular, are capable of doing what they would 483 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: normally get from Edwards Hilaire m Darry Williams had a 484 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: nice game a couple of weeks ago in Washington and 485 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: has sort of been a nice all purpose back. You know, 486 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: they don't Chiefs don't have to take him off the field. 487 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: He can play short yardage, goal line, third downs, regular 488 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: down and distance, whatever you want. He's uh, he can 489 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: handle that. So I feel like the Chiefs need to 490 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: ride him a little more that uh, he's capable of 491 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: taking pressure off a struggling an offensive line's struggling to 492 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: pass protect and a quarterback who's had his problems of late. Adam. 493 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested that you mentioned him because I thought that McKinnon, 494 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: over the earlier part of his career with Minnesota and 495 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco, had been a reliable target in the passing 496 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: game out of the backfield. But that doesn't seem to 497 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: be what Kansas City's doing with him. No. I mean 498 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: they're using him some, and uh, you know, he's he's 499 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: uh when they've gotten in the ball. It's been more 500 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: often this year as a receiver than uh, as a 501 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: you know, than as a runner um. So uh, you know, 502 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: there there is that. You know, he plays a little 503 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: bit of a role, but and again it's more of 504 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: as a receiver than as a runner. But um, you know, 505 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: not a huge role. You know that he was kind 506 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: of the third back until Everett's a lawyer got hurt. 507 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Um he played, uh played some in Everard Hilayer's absence, 508 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: but it's been mainly Ara Williams and um, I expect 509 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: that to continue as long as Edwards Hilaire is out 510 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: that it will be more Williams than McKinnon. We're talking 511 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: without Adam Tisher, who covers the Chiefs or espn Adam. 512 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: We talked about the turnovers on offense and when your 513 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: offense keeps that up, it's a big problem when your 514 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: defense can't get off the field. And this seems to 515 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: be the combination right now for Kansas City. I know 516 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: they've had Chris Jones, they've had Frank Clark in and 517 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: out of the lineup. There's been obviously issues in terms 518 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: of stopping the run. A lot of problems. But if 519 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: you get best assess what exactly is plaguing this defense 520 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: right now, what would you put your finger on. Well, 521 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: I'll start off by saying that there is nothing this 522 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: defense is doing consistently well. Nothing. Um, there's not one 523 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: thing they can take some week to week where they 524 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: can say, Okay, we're gonna do this well and we 525 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: know it so we can build around that. I mean, 526 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: they they're they're across the board been bad, whether whether 527 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: it's red zone, third down, rush in the quarterback, run, defense, 528 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: coverage down the field, I mean, everything's been bad. They've 529 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: blown a lot of coverages, they've had trouble lining up 530 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: on time in certain plays. I mean it's just been 531 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: a UM, it's been a just complete disaster on defense. UM. 532 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: Having said that, if there's one thing that the Chiefs 533 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: have to fix, I can't see them improving significantly on 534 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: defense without this that's improving their pass rush. They are 535 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: tied for last in the league with only eight sacks. 536 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: They are right near the bottom in pass rush win 537 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: rate about thirty. UM. This has to get better, you 538 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: know that. I don't see the Chiefs get going anywhere 539 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: with this defense unless they can put more heat on 540 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it's just been, um, totally ineffective as 541 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: a as as a group. They're they're just in ability 542 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: to do that has really killed the Chiefs. They've given 543 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: up a lot of third longs because they just can't 544 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback. It's uh, um, they played 545 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: against a series of good quarterbacks and uh guys have 546 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: been beating them because the Chiefs aren't aren't getting them 547 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: off his spot, they aren't affecting him at all. And 548 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: so you know, the Chiefs have paid a lot of 549 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: money to Frank Clark and Chris Jones to rush the quarterback, 550 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: and between the two of them, they have um two 551 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: sacks all season long. Clark has none, and both of 552 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: them had missed some time because of injuries, so it's 553 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: not like they've been in the lineup every week. But still, 554 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are expecting more from both those guys and 555 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: from some of their complimentary players too, and it just 556 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: hasn't been there. They've they've just been totally ineffective with 557 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: the pass rush. I gave you the numbers earlier last 558 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: in the league in sacks, one of the last lowest 559 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: teams in pass rush win rate, and even at that, 560 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't tell you how ineffective they've been. They've just 561 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: been uh, totally Stone basically had a lot of past attempts. Well, 562 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, the worst plot about that, Adam. It's not 563 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: just that they're ineffective getting after the quarterback, but Steve 564 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Spagnolo the defense, a coordinator who we have so much 565 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: respect for. I don't know a person in football who 566 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: doesn't love this guy and marvel at his defensive creativity. 567 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: I remember with the two thousand seventeen Giants, all right, 568 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: they had Vernon and Pierre Paul, and they still only 569 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: had twenty seven sacks that year. And that defense got 570 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: shredded to the tune of a team that finished three 571 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: and thirteen, and they gave up a lot of leads 572 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter simply because no matter how creative 573 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: he was, they couldn't get to the quarterback. The Chiefs 574 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: this year a blitzing over thirty percent of the time, 575 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: top six in the league in blitz percentage, and they 576 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: still can't get home, which means your secondary is going 577 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: to be left out to dry. I don't know what 578 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Spags can do. Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree. It's 579 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: it's not all on him. I think he's uh, you know, 580 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: got at handedness, but it's a lot of guys just 581 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: not playing well. And uh, you know, last week in Tennessee, 582 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: the game plan was to um stop Derrick Henry. Don't 583 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: let Derrick Henry beat you. And that's what the Chiefs did. 584 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean they stopped Derrick Henry twenty nine carries eighty 585 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: six yards, less than three yards of carry. But um, 586 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: that didn't matter. That the Chiefs could not pressure Ryan 587 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: tan Hill, a high quality NFL quarterback, and he basically 588 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: had time whenever he wanted. He just sat back there 589 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: and and and could pick and choose what he wanted 590 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: to do, and he put the ball right on the money. 591 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: And you know, the Chiefs were unable to cover one 592 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: on one. That was sort of you know, they carried 593 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: out Spagnola's um his game plan that they played it 594 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: like they were supposed to. I mean, they stopped Derrick Henry, 595 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: but they couldn't get the rest of it done. And 596 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's my point about the Chiefs defensively. They're 597 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: not good enough to stop everything opponent brings. They they've 598 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: got so much weakness they can maybe say, hey, listen, listen, 599 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: this week, this is what we're going to prevent. But um, 600 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a hope and a prayer with all the 601 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: other stuff that that a team might bring. So you know, 602 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: depending on what the Giants bring on Sunday on Monday Night. Uh, 603 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs did have success in one game 604 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: against one opponent defensively, and it was against Washington with 605 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback a couple of weeks ago. Other than that, 606 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: it's been a total mess for the Chiefs when they've 607 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: brought up against a team with a quality quarterback and 608 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: some quality weapons. Adam, before we let you go, whenever 609 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: there is a trip to Kansas City for any team, 610 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: we have to bring up the atmosphere of Arrowheads Stadium 611 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: was actually reading. The Chiefs have never lost three straight 612 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: home games with Patrick Mahomes is their quarterback. They're on 613 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: a two game skid at home this year, and a 614 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of that contributes to a lot of the factors 615 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: we talked about. Given the fact that this team has 616 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: been on the road the last two weeks, what are 617 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you expecting on Monday night in terms of how much 618 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: the home crowd it may play a significant role given 619 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: how much they're itching for a w at home. Well, 620 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: it's um you know, if the Chiefs play decently, least 621 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: to start the game, UM near the crowd will be 622 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: into it. And no the Chiefs will get some boost 623 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: from that, I'm sure, but hey, there's a lot of 624 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: frustrated fans. It did not expect this or sign up 625 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: for this. So if things go badly, you know, we've 626 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: seen some booze at Arrowhead this year, and I would 627 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: expect that the crowd would would turn on the Chiefs 628 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: if things don't go their way. And I'll say this, Um, 629 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, Arrowhead is can be a home field advantage 630 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, but you know, under Andy Reid, the 631 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Chiefs have been I would argue that they've been a 632 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: better team on the road for whatever reason, than they 633 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: have at home. Their record might not be as good 634 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: on the road as at home, but it's probably pretty close, 635 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, I just think the Chiefs have 636 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: been a better road game. I can't road team. I 637 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: can't put my finger on it, but over the years, 638 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: at least since Andy Reid has been here, that's been 639 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: the case. So again, not that Arrowhead can't be an 640 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: intimidating place for opponents, but uh um, it's not. It's 641 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: not been a place where opponents haven't done well either. Adam, 642 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to overlook special teams because if I 643 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: do Jeff Eagles will never forgive me. Hartman and Pringle 644 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: are doing a great job on kickoff and punt returns. 645 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: We know about Butcker, uh, Townsend's a terrific punter. It 646 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: seems to me that that's the one unit that the 647 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs don't have to polish up at all. They've been 648 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: playing very well. Coverage units have also been good. Yeah, 649 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: they've done a very good job. But you know the 650 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: problem is they're not They're not They're turning it over 651 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: so much. They don't punt much, you know, and uh 652 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: so seriously, I mean, you know, you look at the Chiefs. 653 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: They've hardly punted at all this year. And uh they 654 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: had a game against Silly a couple of weeks ago 655 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: where neither team punted. You know, that's how bad the 656 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: defense was in that game. How much the offense has dominated. 657 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: So Chiefs scored a touchdown on every one of their possessions, 658 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: not just they didn't just score, they scored a touchdown 659 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: and every one of the possessions except the ones that 660 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: ended in turnovers. That's kind of where the Chiefs are 661 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: that she So, Yeah, the Chiefs have done a nice 662 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: job at times on special teams, but it hasn't made 663 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: much of a difference. They they're so weak in some 664 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: of the other areas that it's just, uh, it's render 665 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: there there, it's kind of a moot point. There. He 666 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: is Adam Tisher who covers the Chiefs for ESPN. Adam 667 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: looking forward to the Monday night game. Greatly appreciate the 668 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: time of the inside. Thanks so much, Thanks Adam. Hey, 669 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: good stuff, guys. That's Adam Tisher from ESPN again covers 670 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. 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Speak 678 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: with the Giant Sweet representative now by calling eight at 679 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: eight n yg our final interviews with the head coach 680 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: of the Giants, Joe Judge, who spoke to Bob Papa 681 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: as always, were joined by the head coach of the 682 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: New York Giants, Joe Joe Tonight here in Kansas City, 683 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: taken on the Chiefs team. A talented team, a team 684 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of respect for with 685 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: them having gone to the last two Super Bowls. Uh, 686 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: they've struggled a little bit this year, but they're still 687 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: dangerous obviously when you watch mahomes and and look at 688 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: them what they do offensively. What are some of the 689 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: dues and don'ts that you have to adhere to in 690 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: this game. Well, I think you start off number one 691 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: with you you can't get beat deep, and that's something 692 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: they do every game. They find a way to get 693 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: a guy behind the safety or over a corner. You've 694 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: got to be very conscious on every play not to 695 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: get beat deep because it could be a short pattern, 696 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: it turns into scramble and they extended going vertically down 697 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: the field or they're gonna take their shots. Calculate throughout 698 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: the game. But you talk about the first things, you 699 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: can't get beat deep, and then number two, you gotta 700 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: play with good discipline and play through the duration of 701 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the play. There's it's gonna be a lot of loose 702 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: plays and scrambles it's just how this guy plays extremely 703 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: talented and you've got to play the entire play through. 704 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: You can't assume it's over because the receiver throttles or 705 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: shuts it down, because all of a sudden, they'll turn 706 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: it right back on when they realize the place calling 707 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: themselves coach, they've lost two in a row at home, 708 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: which is uh fe in terror tory for them. Primetime 709 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: game um talk about like the first five to seven 710 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: minutes of this game and really just trying to make 711 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: sure you get it stabilized and then sort of drag 712 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: it out a little bit. Well, first off, we expect 713 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: their best football. We expect everybody's best football, but we 714 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: definitely expect their best football. And look, I've been in 715 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: there a couple of times on different teams, and you 716 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: play these guys at night, specifically on Monday night, they're 717 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: gonna be out there juice and ready to go when 718 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: the lights come on. These guys play their best. They're 719 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: very very talented. It's a very prideful group as well, 720 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: so they're very conscious with what the outside world saying. 721 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: They'll come out. You know, writer role as a team 722 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: when you go out there in these situations you've got 723 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: to go ahead and just function throughout the week to 724 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: prepare for what you're gonna see in the game, and 725 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: whether that's the noise or the elements. We've been fortunate 726 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: this week to have some win and some rain things 727 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: that help us prepare. But in terms of the first 728 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: few minutes, you gotta let the adrenaline settle down, and 729 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you don't do anything 730 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: to hurt yourself schematically by having a miscommunication or a 731 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: busted assignments. You've got to take the adrenaline out of 732 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: it a little bit. And then as the game goes 733 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: on with this team, you've just got to go on 734 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: and understand it's always a sixty minute game with these guys. 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter if you have three scores, that's three 736 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: plays away from tying you. These guys are a very 737 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: good team. It's gonna be a sixty minute game regardless. 738 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: So we've been preparing our guys all week to go 739 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: in there at that mindset of whatever it takes with 740 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: a grind this thing out. It's gonna take everybody sixty 741 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: minutes or more. The need Coach Mahomes can make a 742 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: lot of off schedule plays. Um talk about the discipline 743 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: that your back end needs to play within this football game. 744 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: When he did when he does break, contain because he's 745 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: gonna throw it from any angle. So it starts really 746 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: upfront before you even get to the back end, so 747 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: that the rush lanes are critical to make sure you 748 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: can contain and keep him in the pocket. It's easier 749 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: said than done, but when he escapes, you've got to 750 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: make sure that you know you can go ahead and 751 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: lose that ground again to recapture and getting back inside 752 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: where your helps coming from. It's important not to run 753 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: by the passer on the edge, important not to open 754 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: up the internal lanes where he pulls a ball down 755 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot and wrenches runs vertically of the field. But 756 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: then it ties into the back end in terms of 757 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: just vision on your man and understanding that you've got 758 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: to look at your man down the field and play 759 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: through your man. His eyes and his hands come to 760 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: tell you when the ball is coming. But if you 761 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: get in the habit of looking at your man, turnaround, 762 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: swinging your head and peeking with the quarterbacks, that that's 763 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: when they counter back and make a lot of plays 764 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: and guys loser receivers laid down the field. You just 765 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: have to have discipline and know who you're covering. Russia's 766 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: rush cover guys, cover other side of the ball. Um. 767 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have Sterling Shepard back in the lineup. You 768 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: hope to have had him last week. You didn't, but 769 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: you still put twenty points up on the board last week. 770 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: Just talk about having him back and what you've seen 771 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: out of your offense as far as the growth considering 772 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: the fact that you've had to play a lot of 773 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: people up front, well, I think the moving parts we've 774 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 1: had offensively between the you know, big zen of skill 775 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: players have been encouraging because we're developing a large part 776 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: of the team and bring guys along, you know, to 777 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: be able to go out there last week and have 778 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: production were a lot of different guys that was important 779 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: for us. Having Sterling back in a lot this week 780 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: obviously adds an element to the game that you know, 781 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: he brings a lot of juice and experience and playmaking. 782 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure we're still taking get the ball 783 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: in his direction and let him go ahead and make plays. 784 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: That being said, it's gonna take more than one person. 785 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Everyone's gotta step up and make plays. We gotta make 786 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: sure we catch the ball secured, and we gotta get 787 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 1: vertical and make play in space. And that was something 788 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: we did last week to extend some plays and gain 789 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: some yards. We have to be able to do that 790 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: tonight and go out there and extend rise by converting 791 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: on third down, finishing in the right area, but taking 792 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: our opportunities for shouts when they come our way. Yeah, 793 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones played with a lot of poise last week. 794 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, everyone talks about the catch that he made 795 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: and all that other stuff, but it was a play 796 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: before that where he uses time with his legs, gets 797 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: out in space and then dumps it off to Booker 798 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: and you wind up getting a really positive play. Is 799 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: that some of the growth that you've seen in him 800 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: as a player, just understanding all that and then making 801 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: a big play happen by doing a smart thing. Yeah. Absolutely. 802 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: And we talked to our guys all time, and specifically Daniel, 803 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: but hey, take the profit, take what the defense is 804 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: given to you. We don't have to force a play. 805 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: We don't have to force it down the field all 806 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: the time. We've got good runners with the ball unerneath, 807 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: with the backs the tight ends in certain situations, just 808 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: take the profit. When they give you something, go ahead 809 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: and take it. And he did a good job on 810 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: that play that extended out to play as a third 811 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: down a longer situation. He recognized that Book slipped off 812 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: was open, just gave one ahead and gave him the ball. 813 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: Let Book make a play with his legs. As other 814 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: times as well, he's made. Some of the best plays 815 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: he's made this year were throwaways to avoid sacks, puts 816 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: a long yard situation when he decided to pull the 817 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: ball down and just take the quick profit for a 818 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: couple of yards and put us in a better situation 819 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: ahead of the sticks. So with the quarterbacks about facilitating 820 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: the offense and decisions you make, Arnold was the ones 821 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: you recognize on a statute a lot of times as 822 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: the ones you make that keeps your team out of 823 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: a bad situation. Final question, Um, you're going against Andy Reid, 824 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: who's gonna be a Hall of Famer. You've competed against 825 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,479 Speaker 1: him many times before. You probably were still in high 826 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: school when he was first named head coach of the 827 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles area that you grow up and just give 828 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: us a sentence or two on what your feelings are 829 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: toward Andy Reid. Well, I was in high school when 830 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: he first became the head coach of the Eagles, and UM, 831 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: a lot of respect your hand. Guy. I have a 832 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for how he is as a coach, 833 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: but even more so as a person and the way 834 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: he handles his team, compares his team. You know, this 835 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: team is one of the best us in the league 836 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: every year, not by accident, but by how he's assembled 837 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: the players around it with very great amount of talent, 838 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: but also that fit when he wants to do schematically 839 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: all three sides of the ball. You know, I think 840 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: when you talk about Andy as a coach, this is 841 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: the best offensive coordinator in the world and bonds the 842 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: offense quarter I got you on that, and he does 843 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: a great job. He really doesn't. Him and Andy worked 844 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: together on this. But when I think about Andy specifically, 845 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: it's this guy does a better job. But I think 846 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: anybody else in the world of identifying what you're in, 847 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: figuring out your game plan and making adjustments, and when 848 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: you play the Chiefs or any team, that's Andy Reid. 849 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: You have to understand that there's gonna be a game 850 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: plan in the first half that's gonna emerge, and then 851 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: there's going to be the adjustments that come in towards 852 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the second quarter and through the second 853 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: half that they're gonna find what you're doing and they're 854 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: gonna make adjustments. They're gonna put you in a position 855 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: that you have to adjust as well. So you've got 856 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: to anticipate some of his answers, and that comes from 857 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: really through studying people in the past of what they've 858 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: done through different things manners, own blitz, pressure, drop for coverage, 859 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, how's his answer has been in 860 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: the past, And when you study people enough, you figure 861 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: out that there's tendencies in terms of what they go 862 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: to within a comfort zone. But it's always unique to 863 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: who you have available on how they're trying to match 864 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: up your personnel. So you have to identify how he's 865 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: mismatched people in the past, and maybe you know, replicate 866 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: some of the skill sets of your players or scheme 867 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: wise what you're doing. But you just know that he's 868 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna be very, very invent if he's gonna pull some 869 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: kind of rankle out that you have not seen. There's 870 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 1: gonna be several things, especially in the red area that 871 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: there's no way of finding it on tape because they've 872 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: never ran before, and it may be a familiar scheme 873 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: that looks completely different when you initially see it, and 874 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: you've got to be ready to go out there and 875 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: play with your eyes, play your keys, play with good 876 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, just concepts and make the play. But in 877 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: terms of you know, coach read you know, I think 878 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: everyone in the league has a tremendous amount of respect 879 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: for him and what he's done as a coach, while 880 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: he's done for players, and what he's done for the 881 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: game football. Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Good 882 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: luck tonight. Thank you. The Joe Judge Interview is brought 883 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: to you by Hackensack Maridy in health keep getting better. 884 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: More of bud Light Giants game day after this time 885 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: out on the w f AN Giants Radio Network driven 886 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: by the Hes Toy Truck. 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