1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Thank you, stephen A Smith. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: This is Rashan McDonald and I'm the host of money 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Making Conversations dot Com. I recognized that we all have 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: different definitions of success. For you, it may be the 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine is helping people wake up 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: very best life. Please leave with your gifts. My guests 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: on money Making Conversation dot Com this week are stephen 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: A Smith, host of ESPN's first Take Swords Center with 16 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: stephen A Smith and ESPN plus stephen A's World, Marianna 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: van Zella discussing her new national geographic show Traffic with 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Marianna Vanzella. Robert Brads will be breaking down his New 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Day fitness challenge program. Earnest and Barbara Smiles, founders of 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: a face shield that allows your smile to shine. Visit 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation dot com. Right now listen to my podcast. 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: I am Rushan McDonald. Happy New Year. It's very special 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: guests I have on the show today. His name is 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith. Will start right there before we get 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: started with my interview with Steven name Smith. Let's look 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: at this early media snapshot of one as listen. Steven 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: An Smith will continue his host his popular ESPN First 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Take Money through Friday. Then Steven A. Smith will also 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: hosts a weekly Wednesday ESPN NBA show called Sports Tender 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: with steven A. Smith. It premiers January six. Stevens also 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: hosts a daily half hour ESPN plus talk show, Stephen 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: AG's World. It premiers on January level and airs Monday, Tuesday, 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday. Because The Sports Center with steven A. 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Smith airs on Wednesday. Steven N. Smith will continue his 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: recurring role as Brick on the popular ABC soap opera 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: General Hospital. It airs January twelve and thirteen. Steven N. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Smith and co producing an HBCU docuseries on the North 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Carolina Central University basketball team, which stay fallowed spokesperson the 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: NBA superstar Chris Paul That premiers January fift and Steven A. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Smith Stephen A. Smith, the speller mispan his name, is 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: starting a highly anticipated family theme animated wrestling movie called Rumble. 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: The release date is made fourteen. Yes, he is very busy, 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: please working the money making conversation Stephen A. Smith. It's 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: going on, man, How you doing? Stephen? And I leave 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: anything out? First of all, you know, I don't even know, man, 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm so busy. I can't even answer that question definitively 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: because things are just happening for me. And you know, 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: through the grace of God and a lot of good 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: things happening to me for me and you know, my 50 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: inner circle, my family and my friends and my loved ones, 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: which obviously includes you as well, things have been going 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: incredibly well. So I'm happy about that. And you know, 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: we just move along and see how things go moving 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: into the future. Well, you know, when when I listened 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: that schedule, you know you're doing first take. Let's let's 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: look at that first week of January, January four first 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: take Monday through Friday, then Wednesday, January six, is gonna 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: premieer your next show, new show Sports Teler with Steven A. Smith, 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: which is the NBA centric show, and then the following 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: week the premier of steven A's World. Tell us about 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: stephen A's World. Well, stephen A's World is a new 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: show that's gonna be on ESPN Plus. And as you 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: articulated earlier, the only reason that it's not gonna be 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: five days a week is because I have to do 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: the Sports in It with Steven and a Smith show 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: on ESPN every Wednesday, not every Wednesday, but most Wednesdays. 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: So because of that, is gonna be Monday, Tuesday, Thursday 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: and Fridays. And the reason why I'm so incredibly excited 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: about that is number one, Um, it's pulling it's my show. 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: It's pulling me away from the big format. It's not 71 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: that I don't enjoy it, but you know, a lot 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: of times you have to depend on others, you know, 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: in terms of being on air, because again, the debate 74 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: involves not just you but the person that you're debating 75 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and beyond this is my show, this is me and 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: not only am I the host of the show, but 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm also going to be the executive producer of the show. 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: And I have my own production company which is Mr. 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: S a S Productions, and that's going to be co 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: producing it as well. Um and as you well know 81 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: because you're my right hand man. Uh, it's something that 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: is very incredibly important to me in terms of showing 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: my production chops as it pertains to content, and beyond 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: just knowing just showing showcasing what I know how to do, 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: in terms of knowing how to generate and create content 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: that I think that the public would be interested in seeing. 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is that it's not just 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: in the world of sports. It's beyond. Yes, I can 89 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: create sports content for ESPN Plus or what have you, 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: but there are things that I can do for Walt 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: Disney as well, along with others. Because I've got the 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of contract where obviously, as an employee of ESPN 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: and Walt Disney, you know they're gonna get first looked 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: at it at anything, but in the event that they 95 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: decide to move in a different direction or what have you, 96 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I have the freedom to venture beyond that, to go 97 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: to other folks to really show that I can create 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: content for different venues and different genres and things of 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that nature. So I'm incredibly excited about it. Um efty 100 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: three years of age. So you know, I didn't want 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: to have my career complete, the continue and dependent on 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: me being in front of the camera. I wanted to 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: step behind the camera and showcase what I could do 104 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: in that regard as well. And that's what I'm gonna 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do here. Okay, a lot of 106 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: information you gave me, stephen A, but I still don't 107 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: know what Stephen AG's world is. What steven a world 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: is a half hour talk show, Uh, it's a half 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: our talk show is essentially where you're gonna still see 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: my takes, open and common closing comments. But I want 111 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: to bring a bit of levity to the situation. I 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: wanted to show the lighthearted side of me because my 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: ultimate aspiration is to show that I could host the 114 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: late night show. Uh, similar to what Arsenio Hall did, 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: the Great Johnny Corstins, Jay Lenos, David Letterman is Jimmy 116 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Kimmel's Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Gobel, all of these guys a 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: tremendous respect and admiration for what they do. Uh is 118 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: something that I want to do moving ahead in the future, 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: um for the foreseeable future. I don't know how soon 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: that will happen, but I'm confident that I'll be able 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: to showcase what I can do in that regard and 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: that opportunities will be created moving forward into the future 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: in regards to that. So it's gonna be a half 124 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: hour talk show. I'm gonna give you my takes, but 125 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna see me bring Stephen a baby, Stephen as 126 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: that makes you just be love doctor when I you know, 127 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I sto from Martin Lawrence because that's one of my 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: all time favorite comedians and I religiously watched the show 129 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: Mark and every chance I get. I've seen practically every 130 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: single episode all the years that he was on, and 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: one of my favorite all time episodes was when he 132 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: played the Love Doctor, you know, where he gave relationship 133 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: advice and things of that nature. So things like that, 134 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: just to have a lot of fun, laughter and bring 135 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: a bit of levity to the situation, It's something that 136 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I want to do. And you know, of course I'm 137 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: gonna be interviews are gonna be incorporated into the show 138 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: as well. But I want people to come on the 139 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: show to know that I'm bringing them there to celebrate them, 140 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Celebrate what they wanted, what they're doing, celebrate their accomplishments, 141 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: celebrate the visions that they have for themselves moving into 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the future and beyond. These are all the kind of 143 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: things that I'm thinking about, and that's what I'm excited 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: about looking forward to when it comes to my own show, 145 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: because I think that even though people have seen that 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: side of me Rashaan, they haven't seen enough of it, 147 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: and I'm anxious to show it. Why Why has baby 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: stephen A become a phenomenon? Uh? I give ESPN social 149 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: media folks all the credit in the world, because essentially, 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: what they've done is they've team takes that I've been 151 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: I've given, whether it's on Sports Center or whether it's 152 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: on first take, and what they've done is they've super 153 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: imposed the baby faced stephen A and you alter the 154 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: voice a little bit, and all of a sudden, you 155 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: see this baby version of stephen A. You know, given 156 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the same takes that I gave on first take. So 157 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: it's their brilliance, their creativity. I gotta give them all 158 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: the credit in the world. My social media guy, Brendan Kaminski, Uh, 159 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: he definitely spearheaded that Mike foss wooll be working on 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: my new show along with yourself. Uh, he had a 161 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: lot to do with that as well. I take no 162 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: credit in doing that. Whatso if I give them all 163 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: the credit in the world for their brilliance and their creativity, 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: they deserve a lot of credit for coming up with 165 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: that because it's absolutely hysterical and everybody loves it. I'm 166 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: laughing because of the fact that you know, they've done 167 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: it on a lot of people, stephen A. That's why 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: I gotta bring it. But it just went over the top. 169 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: It just blew up in social media with you. Wasn't 170 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: because first of all, when I when I'm looking at you, 171 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: now I can see the baby stephen A, and it 172 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: really does look like a smaller version of you, but animated, agitated, 173 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: agitated like hyper so well, they didn't fake the animated part, 174 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, that was definitely me. They just attached the 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: baby face to it and altered the voice. But that 176 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: that animation, that definitely was me. And that's always been me. 177 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: A lot of times people get upset and it's not 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: even for the things that I say. It's the way 179 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: that I say it, but I quickly remind them in 180 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: people who know me well quickly remind folks he's always 181 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: been that way. That's the way he talks. You know. 182 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm mellow and I'm cool. I'm doing an interview. 183 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: Certainly by mental what have you, calls for a more 184 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: cerebral approach to things. But when you're talking sports, you're excited, 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: you're animated, you're enthused, you're emotionally invested. And so as 186 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: a result of that, I try to bring that to 187 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: the airwaves because that's what people expect. It More importantly, 188 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: that's who I am. I'm not faking who I am 189 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination, because I think that 190 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: the death now in this business is to come across 191 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: in authentic. So I do everything that I can to 192 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm consistently who I am right whatever 193 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: that makes me. And that doesn't mean I'm one dimensional, 194 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: because there's multidimensions to me. But nevertheless, everything that you 195 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: see from me is a part or an element of 196 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: who I am, from the time I was born to 197 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: me being fifty three years of age right now. Now, 198 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: now let's talk about producing. Because you're an HBCU grad 199 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: and you and I have been fortunate the last couple 200 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: of years to be you're the brand ambassador HBCU Week 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: and stephen A. You've you've We've been part of registering 202 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: on this spot over two thousand students to attend HB. 203 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: She used and raised over eleven million dollars in scholarships 204 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: for students to attend. HBC used, how do you feel 205 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: about that? Man? That's pretty powerful. Well, I'm incredibly proud, um, 206 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: so you know, and I'm humbled. I'm humbled that I 207 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: could find a way to have that kind of impact. 208 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: But to be quite honest with you, Rashawn, I'm also humbled, uh, 209 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: primarily by people like yourself. Um, you know, who's the 210 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Who's the brain you know, basically you're the brain child 211 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: behind all of this, and I think it's important that 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: our audience, that your audience knows this. I wasn't thinking 213 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: about being a brand ambassador. I've always been happy to 214 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: give back of the promise that I made to my 215 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: late coach Clarence Big House Games from Whist the sale 216 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: of State, was that I would never forget and that 217 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: I would always get back because that's all he ever 218 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: asked of me. He never asked to think of me 219 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: other than to never forget my alma mater and always 220 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: contribute to my alma mater and HBC used overall as 221 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: much as I possibly could. That's all he ever asked 222 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: me in return. And I'm it a vow to him 223 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: a long time ago that that's exactly what I would do. 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: And so for me living up to my promise to 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: him is a very very big deal. Um. And obviously 226 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I've tried and I've strived to do that, but in 227 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: terms of HBCU week, I never saw that coming. A 228 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: guy by the name of Rashad mcdonna rolled up on 229 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: me and said, listen, man, I think you should do this. 230 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: Here is the plan, this is what kind of impact 231 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: I think you can have. This is what I need 232 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: from you in order to do this. And so I 233 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: think one of the things that it's incredibly important for 234 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: folks on the come up to recognize and even those 235 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: who have made it, uh, in case they don't learn 236 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: a lesson, never refrain from giving credit to those who 237 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: deserve it. If you're confident enough in yourself and what 238 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: you bring to the table, you don't have to deny 239 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the alkalais and the adulation and others so richly deserved. 240 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: And so when it comes to HBCU week, yes I 241 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: am the brand ambassador. Yes my name has been attached 242 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: to it. As a result of that, eleven point four 243 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: million scholarships and been in leve point four million and 244 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: scholar chips have been given out. All of that is true, 245 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: but none of that would have happened if you didn't 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: bring it to me. You were the one who brought 247 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: it to me. You were the one who asked me 248 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: to do it. You would have one to who employed 249 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: me that this was a good thing. And you gotta 250 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: remember you're also the one that is still the confidence 251 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: to me, because I was saying me, I would have 252 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: that kind I mean, damn, I work, what's the big deal? 253 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: I mean sure, And like Stephen as telling you, just 254 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: listen to me, I'm telling you trust me on this, 255 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: and so I listened to you, and that it happened 256 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: from that. So I'm incredibly grateful to you. I'm incredibly 257 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: grateful to my sister Carmen, who's an educator, my sister Linda, 258 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: who's an educator, who also were behind the scenes encouraging 259 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: me to do it. You've got people like that in 260 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: your life that have a vision for you that you 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: don't see for yourself, but you trust them enough to 262 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: listen to them. Um, just because you did doesn't mean 263 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: that they don't deserve credit for what you ultimately receive 264 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: actulation for. And so I just want to thank you. 265 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: I want to thank my two sisters, Linda and common Um, 266 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and I want to thank obviously everybody else Ashton Cooper 267 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: and Earl and Ellis who are Mayor PERSICKI and Delaware 268 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Uh Senator Coon and others. I just can't thank everybody 269 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: enough for their involvement in it, because it was certainly 270 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: a collective effort that made this successful, regardless of my 271 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: face being attached. And my man David Robins, that's right. 272 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: And of course David rob Its my boss at espn UM, 273 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: who's who's the greatest boss that I've ever had. He's 274 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: tyrannical about winning, make a mistake about it. That's who 275 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: he is. He is about winning at all courts, anything 276 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: he touches. Uh. He's is just ultra ultra determined for 277 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: it to be successful. And and he deserves credit, and 278 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Norby Williamson deserves credit because if they did not give. 279 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: Norby Williamson is an executive VP at ESPN. Dave Roberts 280 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is a senior VP at ESPN. If they did not 281 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: give the okay for us to do the show for 282 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: HBCU week Live from Delaware State, it would have never happened. 283 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: And so it's incredibly important to remember people realize. Sometimes 284 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: people don't realize that I'm not the boss. You know 285 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: at ESPN. They are. And when I went and asked 286 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: them to do first take from that locale, they literally 287 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: said yes, in two seconds, Yes, it is the two 288 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: seconds and I'm telling you what the pop seconds it 289 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: was very amazing. There's another HBCU project, Doctorseries that I 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: mentioned in your opening credits, or the NBA Superstar Chris 291 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: paul Uh talked us about that. It seems like a 292 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: natural participation being that you played basketball in Winston Salem State, 293 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: it is an HBCU school, and you went to school 294 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: in the state of North Carolina. Talk about this this 295 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: premier on ESPN Plus. Well, I'm not at liberty to 296 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: get into it right now. CP three and his brother 297 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: want me to wait until there with me to to 298 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: really get into it. And what I can tell you 299 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: is that It's a project essentially that's going highlight of 300 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: particular school and a couple of athletes from no school, 301 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: and it's going to highlight a particular basketball program and 302 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: just basically highlighting some of the challenges UH you know 303 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: that that HBCU programs face. UM I was called by 304 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: them and ESPN and asked to be an executive producer 305 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: on this particular project, which I was obviously incredibly honored 306 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to do. UM CP three is somebody that I respect 307 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: and admire a great deal. UM I think he does. 308 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: He's a fabulous basketball player and somebody that I think 309 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: is a future Hall of Famer because he's one of 310 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: the great quintessential point guards to have ever played the 311 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: game of basketball. But what a lot of people don't 312 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: realize is that as fiery as he is on the court, 313 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: he's just as as as enthusiastic and tenacious about contributing 314 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: UH to various communities, various African American communities throughout this 315 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,119 Speaker 1: country and certain causes that would help elevate the profile 316 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: of of of African Americans in this nation, particularly as 317 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: it pertains to HBC using beyond. So he deserves an 318 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: incredible amount of credit and to be the great basketball 319 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: player that he is, combined with being the president of 320 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: the player NBA Players Association, Uh, combined with his philanthropy 321 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: and what have you. Uh, He's just one of the 322 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: true true role models. And even though I have to 323 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: sit up there and cover the sport of the NBA 324 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: and call it like you know, I will um and 325 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: call it like I see it. Uh, it just doesn't 326 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: take away from the fact that this is a guy Um, 327 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: that I have incredible, incredible admiration for Um, and I'm 328 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: honored to be working with him on this project and 329 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: on it that I was asked to be an executive. 330 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: So let's talk about something you can talk about, Dough. 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: You're acting acting Brick on the popular ABC soap opera 332 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: General Hospital Premiers episodes premier January. Trust Man, you know 333 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: sometimes you called me man. You get so excited going 334 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to do your tapers of General Hospital. Man that really, 335 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: first of all, you grew up watching soap problems. Let's 336 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: talk about that the biggest thing. That was the biggest 337 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: thing for me. You know, I don't consider myself an actor. 338 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: They say otherwise, they think that I'm pretty damn good. 339 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Frank Valentine, Uh, for the executive producer for General Hospital. 340 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: They brought me on and like two thousand and sixteen 341 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: or seventeen, and they asked me to make an appearance 342 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: as a character named Brick. I did show up in 343 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: General Hospital in two thousand and seven. It was like 344 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: a ten second scene or whatever, and that was all. 345 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: But this is years later and Frank Uh the General 346 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Hospital asked me to come on and play a surveillance 347 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: expert named Brick. And obviously I've been watching the soap 348 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: since I was eight years old. So the star of 349 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: the show, which is Maurice Bernard, who has become a 350 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: very dear friend of mine. Um and he's he plays 351 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: the character Sonny Corinthos in General Hospital. I'm his sibilance expert. 352 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: He's the head of the mob. I'm his surveillance expert. 353 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: And so I did one scene with him and he 354 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: looked at me and said, whoa. He said, you're a natural. 355 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Then executive producer right downstairs in the middle of the 356 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: scene and he said you you've never done this before. 357 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: I said no, sir. He said, would you have time 358 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: to do this in the future, And I said why? 359 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: He said, I want to make this a recurrent world, 360 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: we want to create this character for you because they 361 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: liked it that much, and so I immediately jumped at it. 362 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: I was incredibly, incredibly honored um and ever since then 363 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: they've had me on. I went from having three lines 364 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: to the very next time I appeared, they gave me 365 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: forty lines, and ever since then, there's been thirty forty 366 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: fifty lines spanning two or three shows or what have you, 367 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: that I've been doing. And you know, for me, I 368 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: always try to tell folks my number won't focus is 369 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: to make sure I don't forget my lines, because when 370 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: you do that, you mess it up for everybody else 371 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: because if they remember their lines with the union workers 372 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: and the time they spend doing all of this stuff, 373 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: they've got to do it over and stuff like that. 374 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: So you gotta make sure you're on top of your game. 375 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: But ultimately, I have a lot of fun on. I've 376 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: grown to really really love it, and now I am 377 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: interested in acting more and more because here's the thing 378 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: that I've grown to appreciate about these wonderful actors that 379 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I've run across. First of all, Maurice Bernard, like I 380 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: told you for General Hospital, of the guy that plays 381 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Victor Newman on Young and ar Restless. Eric Braden. He's 382 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: one of my dear, dear friends. He met he and 383 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: I met years ago. Ever since then, we're in separable. 384 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: We talk all the time. We have lunch or dinner 385 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: every single time I'm in Los Angeles and what have you. 386 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: And I actually introduced him and Maurice Bernard, the two 387 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: biggest soap opera stars. They had only met one another 388 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: once crossing path. They had never sat down and broke bread. 389 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: And I actually took the two of them out to 390 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: dinner years ago so they could meet and break bread. 391 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: And both of them are my friends. And I can't 392 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: say enough about them in a kind of advice that 393 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: they've given me about acting, knowing that I wasn't necessarily 394 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: trying to be an actor, but if you're gonna do it, 395 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: damn it, try to do it right. And who's better 396 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to learn from than two of the best that I've 397 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: ever done it in soap operas. And so you know, 398 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: I remember that and the advice. You know, because Denzel 399 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: is a huge basketball fan, Denzel Washington, and I ran 400 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: across him, and I run across him a lot of 401 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: Laker games. At one time we had the pleasure of 402 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: hanging out one evening and I asked him about the work. 403 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: One time when I interviewed me, he called into my 404 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: radio show and he said, the final product is for 405 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: the fans. I'm about the work, the process, the grind, 406 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: the day in and day out, meticulous, tedious work that 407 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: you have to put into perfect your craft. And the 408 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: reason why that resonated with me so profoundly, Rashauna, is 409 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: because that's what I attached to all my work. Everybody 410 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: right now is celebrating Stephen as World coming on ESPN Plus, 411 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: or they're talking about my sports and it was Stephen A. 412 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Smith the NBA Show, or they're looking forward to the 413 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: new year, or it would first take. All I think 414 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: about is going day to day and making sure that 415 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I do everything that I can to deliver to the 416 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: audience what their expectations are of me and to exceed 417 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: those expectations. And I let everyone else judge the final product, 418 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: because once that's finished, I gotta work the next day. 419 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't have the luxury of sitting around and celebrating 420 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: what I've accomplished when I got worked to do to 421 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: make sure that I deliver the audience. What's been promoted. Now, 422 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: we thought we would be celebrating this movie in the 423 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: month of January, but because of COVID and eighteen they 424 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: released rechanged the release date to May fourteen. And this 425 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: is an animated movie called Rumbles and You basically playing 426 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: yourself or sports analysts of Sports Cast and at the 427 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: w w E is one of the producers of this 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: project along with Paramount Animation. Now that steven A you 429 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: know I've seen this one, I'm just tell you'all some 430 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: about stephen A. Stephen A is one of the most 431 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: talented people I've met in this business. But also he 432 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: tends to not understand how talent he is. And that's 433 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: not the insult, because he will give you a hundred percent. 434 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because just like he 435 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: was shocked when it came down to General Hospital, said, wow, 436 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I always telling me it' funny. I don't believe there. 437 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe every sewan you keep saying I'm funny. 438 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: One of the funniest people I met, now rumble. When 439 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: I saw the traiload on that I was blown away, 440 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: and I should you said that that that that works 441 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: for you? I go man, it's outstanding. And so let's 442 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: talk about how your character in Rumble Groom every time 443 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: you went into a looping of the movie. Well, it's 444 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: voiceover work, and so what happens is is that you know, 445 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: people usually want you to do what they see you 446 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: do on television. And my whole point is, you know, 447 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: one of the things that I learned from the voiceover 448 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: work is that your cadence, your tenor all of those 449 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: different things, just like you do in television, there's a 450 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: time and a place for everything. There's a time to 451 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: raise your voice, there's a time to lower it. There's 452 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: a time to say nothing and just use your facial expressions. 453 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: You know, is there's a time and a place to 454 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: utilize all of these uh things that are available to 455 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: you and are at your disposal. And so the same 456 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: as applicable to when you're doing voice over work. They 457 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: might want you to do X, Y and Z. But 458 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: if you have a feel for the character, the more 459 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: you have a feel for the character, the more you're 460 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: asking you the more you're asking of yourself to deliver 461 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: in certain different things. You know, you might be called 462 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: upon to be a bit more animated. Some instances may 463 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: call may call you the dollar back. And so you 464 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: have producers, executive producers and the like. They have an 465 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: idea what they want, but when they call you, you 466 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: also got to remind them that you're somewhat of the expert. Like, 467 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: for example, if you were asking me to just be 468 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: the actor on on on on the General Hospital, well 469 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: you can. I can defer to the executive producer all 470 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: day every day because that's what they do. But to 471 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: voice over work. You asked me to come on and 472 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: to be a sports announcer US for Broadcastle, Well that's 473 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: what I do every day. So when you came to 474 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: me and asked me to give this line to that line, 475 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that doesn't work here. That may not 476 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: work here because that's not practical. This is what we do. 477 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: And they defer to my level of expertise because I'm 478 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: the one that does it every day. And so you're 479 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: learning what they want and what they need, but you're 480 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: also applying your expertise to the equations. So you're giving 481 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: them a fear for what this role is supposed to be. 482 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: And in order to do that, you have to go 483 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: on the folks trust. You have to visualize things for 484 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: them as well, and when you're able to do that 485 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: with voice over, and then you're able to do that 486 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: on a soap problem, all of a sudden, you go 487 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: back to your regularly, daily, regular daily job and you're saying, Okay, 488 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: these are things that you can apply to whatever you're 489 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: doing every day because they have this vision, but you 490 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: have this vision as well, and you're the one doing it. 491 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Plus you're in tune with your audience, etcetera, etcetera. That's 492 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: what you're trying to bring to the table, and that's 493 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: what I've been blessed and fortunate to be able to do. 494 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: And you're doing a fantastic and closing Um, stephen A. Smith. 495 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: That has become a pretty famous name, Stephen, especially to 496 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: stephen A Park. Where did that start? The stephen A 497 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Smith Park? I got left back UM in the third grade. 498 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: I had a first grade reading level. I had dyslexia. 499 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: Didn't know it until later on in life, believe it 500 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: or not, UM, but I could not comprehend what I 501 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: was reading, so I got left back in the third grade. 502 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: In June, I went to summer school. July and August 503 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: I completed my summer courses and as a result, I 504 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: was promoted back to my right grade, the fourth grade. 505 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: By that September, I went through the fourth grade and 506 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I got left back again. This time I was held 507 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: back the whole year because I still had a first 508 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: grade level. And I was ridicute, because you you can 509 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: imagine how cruel kids can be, and I was ridicute, 510 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: excessively laughed at. I was so embarrassed. I didn't come 511 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: out of my mother's house for a couple of weeks. 512 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: It was, you know, I saw my dad in the backyard, 513 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, looking at my mom and saying that, you know, 514 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: there's not much hope for him. He doesn't have that 515 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: level of intellect and all of this other stuff. And 516 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: I remember that and I just said never again. And 517 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: I remember my mother refusing to go along with that 518 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: motor thinking. He said, he just needed to work hard, 519 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: he just needed to do his work, He just needed 520 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: to focus, not be distracted, etcetera, etcetera. And she got 521 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: me a tutor. Plus I had a family friend, Plus 522 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I had my sister Linda, who were all collaborating with 523 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: my mother to teach me how to read better. And 524 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: it was all spearheaded by my mother's diligence and her 525 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: commitment and her love to me. So as a result 526 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: old of that, when I entered the journalism field, I 527 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: decided to enter the journalism field, and I had a 528 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: byeline for the first time. I remember stephen A because 529 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I used to hate my name because my mother used 530 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: to call me Stephen, not Stephen, and and and and 531 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: and she used especially when she loves mad at me 532 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: over something. And so I hated my name at the 533 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: time because of how it was spelled. It wasn't spelled 534 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: with a V. It was spelled with a pH, and 535 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: I hated that. And so as a result of it, 536 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: once I once I got to college and I was 537 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: an honorable student um, and I had my byeline for 538 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: the first time. It was the tribute to her, stephen A. Smith, 539 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: because that was me saying thank you, mommy, I love you, 540 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: and you were right all along. My name. Ain't that bad, 541 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: It's okay. And it's a tribute to her. And that's 542 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: the only reason why I had the A in the 543 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: middle of my byeline, stephen A. Smith. It was because 544 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: my name is Steven Anthony Smith. And she used to 545 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: say Stephen or Steven or Stephen Anthony whenever she was 546 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: upset with me, and that's why they liked my name. 547 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: So once I finally was succeeding, and not only succeeding, 548 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: but in the field of journalism, and I had a byeline. 549 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: The byeline was a tribute to honor heart awesome brother, Stephen. 550 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: And you never failed to, uh not emotionally uplift me. 551 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: You're motivational, but in part I'm happy and part of 552 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: this ride. Man. All right, this is you know, this 553 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: is a half hours went by real fast, and uh, 554 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: I wanna thank you for coming on money making conversation. 555 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I'll be seeing you in a couple of weeks, not 556 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: even a couple a couple of weeks. Well, well, I 557 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: want to thank you. You've been an incredible help. I'm 558 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: proud to be working with you. I'm proud to have 559 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: you as my ace. Uh. You know you're gonna be 560 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: executive producing my show alongside me. You're my number two 561 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: or you're my business manager, and you're somebody that I 562 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: trust and and have a profound level of respect and 563 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: love for our set. Everything that you've done for me, 564 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, I still want you to change that laugh 565 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: and I'd like you to get rid of that damn beard. 566 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: It's so thick. You know what I'm saying, Shave it 567 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: up just a little bit. I don't know. I don't 568 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: know why you got on a three piece suit with 569 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: your jacket closed while you're talking to me while I'm 570 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: on vacation. But that's Michellan, that's who you are. So 571 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, knock yourself out. There's only one you, my brother. 572 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: I understand it. I get it, and I'm cool with it. 573 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Man. We talked so with Steven. Let 574 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: you it's finally here, the season of celebration, and no 575 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: matter how you celebrate with family and friends, whether you're 576 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: preparing for reys magos or Karamu lighting the Manura, are 577 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: going to midnight mass, Coals has just what you need 578 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: to make those traditions special. Plus you'll find gifts for 579 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: all your loved ones. 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That's O T 608 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: T E R dot Ai. We'll be right back with 609 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: more from Marsan McDonald and Money Making Conversations Don't touch 610 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: that dot Hi. I am Rashan McDonald, host of Money 611 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. The Cafe Mocha Swag Award is 612 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: a celebration of black men making a difference in our 613 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: community by empowering others to reach their life goals. They 614 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: can be civic leaders, people in business, activists, celebrities and 615 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: everyday day. It's the Cafe Mocha Swag Award. Honor read 616 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: this weekend Kevin blood Sell Don't limit your Dreams. Kevin 617 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: is a two time who Do Awards winner for Best 618 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Bobeque and Los Angeles Blessed. So has become a top 619 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: television personality and food star. He has grown his business 620 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: from the streets of Compton, California into an international empire, 621 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: from Libra in Hollywood to Crown Casino and mail Burne Australia. 622 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't give to be blessed I'm blessed, so I give. 623 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: It's not no secret recipe that this you know, it 624 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: has to come from your heart. It's more of the 625 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: good things that outweighed the bad things, and God has 626 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: put me in position to help like that. The Captain 627 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: over Squag Award represents men who have strength, whose wisdom 628 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: is assertive, and who is genuine in their spirit. Welcome 629 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: back to money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. 630 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: My next guest is Marianna Venzeller. She's an award winning 631 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: investigative journalists. She's the co founder of Muck Media and 632 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: the host of Executives executive producer of Trafficking with Marianna Vanzeller. 633 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: She wanted to do point a War for fusion investigation 634 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Death by Fentonal when she tracted pharmaceutical and clandestine sources 635 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: of the Daily Deadly Opiard for her port Rape on 636 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: the Reservation, you see received the prestigious Living Stain Award 637 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: for Young Journalists and a documentary on prescription joke abuse 638 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: and peel trafficking the Oxy Cockton, Oxy Coach and Conton Express. 639 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: We're honored to have on the show because she was 640 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: honored by the Peaboardy Award. She's on the show to 641 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: talk about the show that airs every Wednesday on National 642 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Geographic Traffic It with Marianna Benzella. Please welcome to money 643 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: making conversation. She scares me, but I respect her. Marianna 644 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: ben Zella, how are you doing there? Kind great or so? 645 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having First of all, let's 646 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: talk about this show that you know. Your background tells 647 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: the story. Your your your investigative reporter. And I'm gonna 648 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: just tell you my little history about people who are 649 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: respect like they're Christianna and poor of a CNN. I'm 650 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: a big fan of her. In fact, my daughter's name 651 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: comes from her. And so when I look at investigative reporters, 652 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: I look at that type of person who goes behind 653 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: the scenes. The story is sometimes bigger than their own safety, Okay, 654 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: and I look at it like you, how did you 655 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: get into that? And what mindset drives you for a 656 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: series like that? There's appears of National Geographic. Absolutely, I 657 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: can tell you how it all started, and it started 658 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: pretty early on when I was twelve years old. Essentially, 659 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: I used to watch the night news show with my 660 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: family growing up in Portugal and I've listened to these 661 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: anchors on Portuguese television talk about what was happening all 662 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: around the world with so much knowledge. I had no 663 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: idea they were reading from a teleprompter. But that was 664 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: when I decided, Okay, this is it. I want to 665 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: be a journalist because I want to travel around the 666 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: world and gain all this knowledge about the world. And 667 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: so it's sort of launched me into my quest, which 668 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: wasn't always easy as coming to the United States and 669 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: doing journalism here. Now this series, Uh, you know, you 670 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: have a company. I mentioned it in the in the 671 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: title Muck Media. What exactly is MUK Media? Well, Monkey 672 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: is a much Media is a media production company. We 673 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: do everything from documentaries, docuseeries and uh we've you know, 674 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: produced a bunch of couple of award winning documentaries recently 675 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: which I'm really proud of. And now we have this 676 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: new series on National Geographic Channel which I'm not only 677 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: the host but also the executive producer, which cares a 678 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: lot of weight. I'm very familiar with the power and 679 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: executive producer. You know the bottom line, you know the 680 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: creative line, and your decision maker. But more importantly, you're 681 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: the talent, the lead talent. Now you mentioned that you're married, 682 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at these titles. Let's go through some 683 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: of the storylines. Illegal firearms that sounds dangerous, Steroids you 684 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: can get by with that, lottery's camps, cocaine that sounds dangerous, 685 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: counterfeit currency that sounds dangerous, fentonel that can be dangerous, 686 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Tiger trade that sounds dangerous. Okay, how does he take 687 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: all this responsibility within himself? And that's the world that 688 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: you live in. Did you operate out of because it 689 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: is dangerous though, correct it is. I've been covering black 690 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: market for over fifteen years, almost my entire career as 691 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: a journalist, and the reason why mainly is because I 692 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: realized very early on that we know so much about 693 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: the legal economy, the formal economy. You know that we 694 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: have television stations, magazines, organizations devoted to analyzing all the 695 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: twists and turns and up and downs, all the ideas, 696 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: everything that happens in the formal economy. And yet this 697 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: informal economy, these black and gray markets, actually make up 698 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: for half of the global economy, and we know so 699 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: very little about them. So I saw this sort of 700 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to do a whole show wherein each episode we 701 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: explore these black markets and we see who what we 702 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: can learn from them and who also who are the operators? 703 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: Who are these traffickers and smugglers. Do you can see 704 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: yourself courageous. I'm not comfortable with patting myself in the 705 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: back like this, but I will tell you one thing. 706 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: I think in a battle in my head between fear 707 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: and curiosity, curiosity ton to win always and sometimes that's 708 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: not such a good thing, but mostly it's sort of 709 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: where it's in my favor. Well, when you say that 710 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: our readings of extra information about in a different commercials 711 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: of interviews, you say that sometimes you feel being a 712 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: female can be an advantage in the type of stories 713 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: that you're pursuing, Explain that, Yeah, absolutely, I've learned that 714 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: also early on in my career. I think that women 715 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: are seen as less threatening, especially in sort of a 716 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: male dominated world such as black markets around the world. Um, 717 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: I also think that in so many of the places 718 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: that I've been, I've been told that I've been the 719 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: only woman who ever stepped But in those locations such 720 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: as undisclosed cocaine and uh, you know, meth labs, drug 721 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: labs around the world, So I think there's a novelty 722 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: aspect to that as well. That's sort of disarming for 723 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: the people that I'm interviewing. And I also think and 724 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I think perhaps this is the most important reason why 725 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: I think women tend to be more empathetic. They turn 726 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: and tend to sort of, uh, you know, relates to 727 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: the world around on them with more empathy and less judgment. 728 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: And I think that goes a long way in the 729 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: way that I approach my journalism and the reason to 730 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: why I gain access into these worlds because I make 731 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: it very clear from the start that even when I'm 732 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: talking to people that I you know, that are part 733 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: of these cartels or these criminal organizations, that I am 734 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: there to listen to their stories. And of course I 735 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: do not condone what they do, but ultimately my job 736 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: is to listen to their stories. So I'm there to 737 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: listen and not judge. Well, you know, you the word cartail, 738 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, drug dealers. You know a lot of people 739 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: don't walk away for those conversations. How do you from 740 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: a mindset standpoint, because you're US an actual national geographic 741 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: you're going under that, so that helps you maybe calm 742 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: them down that you're not coming in there from a 743 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: ded age, and but they are still suspicious. You're talking 744 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: about people who really want to survive and know they 745 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: have a short term of success. How do you rationalize 746 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: because because you're a different person, understand this, I'm coming 747 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: from a person that I would never do what you 748 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: can do because you're special, you're unique talent that can 749 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: be doing an interview in a very violent and potentially 750 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: dangerous situation and potential life during this situation and remain calm. 751 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: That's very important because you can't exhibit inequalities. There's something's wrong. 752 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: If they saw your nervous or saw you sweating, that 753 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: could signal that this can be something that you're not saying. 754 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: It is gonna happen. It may go differently. How do 755 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: you break down those different steps? Securing the story, then 756 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: proceeding through the process of securing the interview, and then 757 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: protecting their identity because that's equally important to your survival. Absolutely, 758 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: so so much happens before we actually hit the groat. 759 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: You know so much. Uh, making sure that you know 760 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: that we are we're the safest, that we're minimizing the 761 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: risks at every turn. Um, you know, because ultimately no 762 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: story is worth the life of absolutely, but once we 763 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: do get there, and and then there's also so much 764 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: that happens for it to sort of convince people to 765 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: allow us into their worlds and to give us access 766 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: into these black markets. And I think you mentioned it, 767 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: and it is the biggest fear that almost everybody has 768 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: when operating in these markets is the fact that they 769 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: want to absolutely make sure that we're not law enforcement. 770 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: That's always the biggest fear. So there's all these underground 771 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: what I call these underground first dates, which is these 772 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: moments where sometimes they want to meet the whole team. 773 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just me but with no cameras, no audio, nothing, uh, 774 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: just to meet me and to make sure that I 775 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: am in fact who I say I am, which is 776 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: a journalism I'm not law enforcement. So that takes Usually 777 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: there's drinks involved and there's a lot of conversation, just 778 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 1: again to make sure that we can trust each other. 779 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: And then actually the most important thing to make sure 780 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: that I that myself and my team say safe is 781 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: that we have to be able to trust to treat 782 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: people with trust and respect. And if we treat people 783 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: trust and respect, usually they treat us with trust and respect. 784 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: That so if I were to show up and if 785 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I was of this and suspicious, and if I showed 786 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: up with you know, a big group of bodyguards and 787 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: security with with guns or whatnot, or with even with 788 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: a body flat jack, any of that, I'm essentially giving 789 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: them the message that I don't trust them and I 790 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with them, so with them. So, I 791 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: think one of the most important things, and really the 792 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: key is to show them that, after all this time 793 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: that we spent talking before we even bring our cameras, 794 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: that I am here to listen to your stories and 795 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: I trust you and I respect you, and and that 796 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: goes such a long way. Okay, here's something interesting here. 797 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: I got the fact that you want to get the story. 798 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: Why do they want to tell you their story? Yeah, 799 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think it's a combination of factors. 800 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: I think ego places along role in it. You know, 801 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: these are people that are some of the best in 802 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: the business. Is what they do. You know, the best 803 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: cocaine chemists, the best person at making fake US dollars, 804 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: the best um sentinel rapper, whatever it is. And sometimes 805 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: many times they at least don't even know what they do. 806 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: So we give them an opportunity by this guy disguising 807 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: their faces, changing their identities, even changing their voices at times, 808 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: to be able to talk to us and tell us 809 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: what they love to do and what they're so passionate 810 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: about or what they're so good at doing. Secondly, I 811 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: think it's impunity, you know, and a lot of these 812 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: parts of the world, they've been able to operate for 813 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: so long with complete impunity. They don't really see you 814 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: down silent speaking to National Geographic And then I think lastly, 815 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: it's this very human quality that we all want to 816 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: be understood. They know full well that as traffickers, as criminals, 817 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: are as outlaws, they are considered to be the bad 818 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: guys in our society, and a lot of times they 819 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: go into those businesses because of a lack of opportunity, 820 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: and we give them a chance to tell us their 821 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: stories and to perhaps be even for just a little 822 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: bit to be understood. Well, you know, when I look 823 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: at it, when I look at some of the storylines 824 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: on the subject title illegal firearms, I understand that impact 825 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: a lottery stamps, you know, people mislay cocaine, uh the 826 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: counterfeit currency. That scares to me the most because that 827 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: can that can bring down um an economy. You know, 828 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: you don't know this money just being flown out to Fenton. 829 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: All steroids. Now, steroids seems to be a drug that 830 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: somebody wants to take it, unlike cocaine. How does that 831 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: How does that impact people in general steroid use? Yeah, 832 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: it's incredible, you know, it was of all of those, 833 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: I think it's the one that I knew on one 834 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: of the ones that I knew the least amount about it. 835 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: And what I hadn't realized and we came to discover it, 836 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: it's reporting in this episode was that it's truly all 837 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: around us. And I used to think that people doing 838 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: steroids where either you know, athletes are doing it eagerly, 839 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: or it was being done in gyms but sort of 840 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: in the seeing secret locations or bodybuilding competitions. But what 841 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: I didn't realize is that we spoke to suburban moms 842 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: we're taking steroids, teenagers still in high school who are 843 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: taking steroids. It is a it's become sort of a 844 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: phenomen I know that is happening all around us. We 845 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: filmed with a steroids dealer who was going from Jim 846 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: to jim selling steroids inside locker rooms in the gym. 847 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: We filmed him also as he went to a parking 848 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: lot to meet a dad whose kids go to the 849 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: same school as his kids, and we saw a steroid 850 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: deal happening right out in the open um. You know, 851 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: they weren't even trying to hide it. So it's it 852 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: was a lot more widespread than I initially knew it. 853 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: Wass I measue this because you're saying that, So if 854 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: somebody is dealing in steroids, will they get the same 855 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: uh police attention as somebody dealing in crack or cocaine 856 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: they do? You know, it's complicated. Um, it's sort of 857 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of a gray market about how much 858 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: you can't sell. You're not supposed to sell it without prescription. Uh, 859 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to require it without prescription. Um. But 860 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: it's a lot more of a gray market than it 861 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: is let's say, fens and though you know which is 862 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: well stay this drug in America. So there is a 863 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: little bit of a grain market. And in fact, one 864 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: of the main car characters in our film is a 865 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: guy called Tony Huge who not only has sort of 866 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: a hidden underground lab where he's making a lot of 867 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 1: these performance enhancing drugs. He's also administering it on himself 868 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: out in the open. We didn't have to disguise his 869 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: identity at all. He was very much having the open. 870 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: We also saw him and minister some of the drugs 871 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: he makes to another to a kid who was entering 872 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: a bodybuilding competition. And so it's a little bit of 873 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: a grave market. But but you know, there are have 874 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: been criminal cases and there are law enforcement agents. He's 875 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: all around the country looking into these uh you know, 876 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: steroid illegal stele of steroid networks. Now that the one 877 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: one of the subject matter that jumped out because during Netflix, 878 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: UH came to the docu sus Tiger King. You know, 879 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: just I guess walked us down a line of like 880 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: disbelief and uh soap opera mockery. But amongst all that 881 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: was a heavy dose of reality that tigers UH be 882 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: used of being trained and being sold and being killed 883 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: when they felt there was no need to keep them 884 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: a lab because they were more costly. It would be 885 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: much cheaper to kill him than to keep them alive. 886 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: Talk about the tiger trade, UH format that you get 887 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: why how did they come about. Yeah, So we started 888 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: filming exactly year, the last November October actually of last year, 889 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: so it was before Tiger King came out. And I 890 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: was happy to see when Tiger King came out because 891 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: although I do think it's focused made me on the 892 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: wild characters in this you know, tiger world here in 893 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: the United States, um our documentary is more about the 894 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: plight of the tigers worldwide. I do think it's somehow 895 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: shun a light on this very important topic, which is 896 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: the plight of tigers around the world. So what we 897 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: came to realize when with our documentary, and one of 898 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: the biggest reasons why we wanted to do this documentary 899 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: to start with, is that there are so actually more 900 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: tigers in captivity in the United States than they are 901 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: in the wild in the entire world. So when we 902 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: read that, we realized immediately, Okay, this is it. We 903 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: have to do. Make that statement. When you make that statement, 904 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: how do they know how that's a number? There's crazy 905 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: to mean somebody is more captivity than is in the Wow, 906 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: that seems like that's a trackable number. Are they just 907 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: assuming that No, it's a sort of somewhat trackable. The 908 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: problem is that there is not a lot of enough 909 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: rules and regulations in the United States and enough oversight 910 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: tigers in the United States. But it is estimated that 911 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: there are around ten thousand, if not more tigers in 912 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: the US, usually in sort of you know, roadside zoos 913 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: and people's family homes, um, people who own them for 914 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: whatever reason because they want to own a wild tiger, wildcats. 915 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: But in the wild there's only thirty five hundred to 916 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: four thousand tigers left, and it is there's a very 917 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: high chance and we spoke to several experts to tild 918 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: us that within our lifetimes we will not be able 919 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: to see there will not be any more tigers left 920 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: in the wild. And partly we have part of a 921 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: responsibility as to why this is happening, we as Americans. Wow. 922 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: So with that being said, when you go through these 923 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: different process I've mentioned several different subject matters that you're 924 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 1: pursuing for this series. That's own National Girl and Draft 925 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: Geographic Unit. There's everyone is they called traffic It hosted 926 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: by you, an executive deduced by you, um, which one 927 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: of them popped off and went, like you said, steroids 928 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: kind of caught you off guard because, like me, I'm 929 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: just thinking somebody out there popping up. And then you 930 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: mentioned and I know when my daughter had knee surgery, 931 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: they gave us steriarts, you know, so it is it 932 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: is that minister for different use you know, and things 933 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: like that when you're recovering. Okay, but when you see 934 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: the illegal firearms, I get that. But the things that 935 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: jumped out to me was the lottery scams and the 936 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: counterfeit currency scared me because that's money that's flowing around 937 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: it sppoped be valid money, but obviously they figured out 938 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: a system and they can get away with us. So 939 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: long would eventually make a call, they may not get called. 940 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: So Talk walked me through the lottery scam subject matter 941 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: and then also the counterfeit currency subject matter. Yeah, a 942 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of Scam was one of the first episodes we filmed, 943 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: and to me, it was a really important one to 944 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: make and still one of my favorite ones. And I 945 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: think probably because we have all sort of received those 946 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: phone calls where somebody says that you've won have you 947 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: shopped at Walmart recently, Well, you won a big prize, 948 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: and to you want of Mercedes Benz for example, and 949 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: all you have to do in order to receive that 950 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz is you have to pay two thousand dollars 951 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,479 Speaker 1: in taxes or five dollars for the transportation fee, and 952 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: or they'll call you and say that you owe money 953 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: to view electric company and they're coming and switching off 954 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: your electricity if you don't pay what you oh, and 955 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people fall for this um. I had 956 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: a friend here in Los Angeles who recently fell for 957 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: this and paid a lot of money to be supposed 958 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: of the electricity company that was fake. And so I 959 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: really wanted to find out who is it, who are 960 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: the people on the other side of these phone calls. 961 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,959 Speaker 1: So we travel to Jamaica, which has sort of become 962 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,919 Speaker 1: the front lines, ground zero of scamming around the world 963 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: for these what are called lottery scams. And it was 964 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: fascinating to meet the people on the other side of 965 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: the land the line and figure out why they do 966 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: what they do, how much money they're making, how easy 967 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: it is or difficult it is for them to scam, 968 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: and how they get their money. Their hands on these 969 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: lead lists with all the names of Americans and phone numbers, 970 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: So that was a fascinating uh journey and one of 971 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: my favorites for sure. And then on the other side, 972 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to counterfeit money, it is actually the 973 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: second oldest profession in the world. It's uh making faith 974 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: us dollar or fake dollars, fake money in general. And 975 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: it turns out that over sixty of the fake dollars 976 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 1: that are in circulation all around the world are made 977 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: in Beru. So when we read that and we realized 978 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 1: this is such a good and important story for us 979 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: to do, to head over to Peru to Lima and 980 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: meet with They're only a handful of families mostly. It's 981 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: a family network, family bus that operate in these very 982 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: having the open sometimes in these printing shops essentially printing 983 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: thak u s dollars and then finishing each single one 984 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: by hand to make them look exactly like the real deal. Wow, 985 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: you know I would go. Let me go back to 986 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: the Lodder's gam. I I know, I got a call 987 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: and uh and I'm I'm spoke to the guys. Been 988 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: through that done, but been that done? That about our 989 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: own money to the U. S government, And I mean 990 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: shook me up. And the only thing really helped me. 991 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: I called my accountant and said hey, call this person. 992 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,479 Speaker 1: This person is saying that owe money. Otherwise I could 993 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: have been a victim if I didn't have those resources. 994 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: Because I'm just on this interview. I just gotta let 995 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, you know, to be why was somebody to 996 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: do that? Well, if you get that call, they can 997 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: sound very authentic. And nobody wants to go to jail, 998 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: want no, especially nobody wants to owe the government. And 999 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't know if you don't owe the government. 1000 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: So if somebody tell me you can remit a problem, 1001 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: if you don't do it, you can go away if 1002 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: you take care of it right now. You take care 1003 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: of it right now. And so what might be five 1004 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: hunt all, make five hunt all? They may have done 1005 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: a hundred times, so you know that's how they make 1006 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: their money. You know, it might not be a It 1007 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: might have got just five hundred or thousand. Imagine if 1008 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: they got a thousand times. And that's that's what they're 1009 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: working on. That rotation number there, that that allows you 1010 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: to get up there, to be able to build momentum 1011 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: to scam people. And so I just want to thank you. 1012 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 1: I want, I wanted you one of my favorite people. 1013 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: I've been waiting all day to interview, because I you know, 1014 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: you're courageous, your hero. And then, like I said, a 1015 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of people can't do what you do and you 1016 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: accept that, you know and accept that you're you're a 1017 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 1: special person. From that standpoint, I'm just telling you from fact. 1018 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've been in this business a long time 1019 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: and to see your story. I am a fan. You know. 1020 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: I love the work you've done. We talked more, which 1021 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: was fantastic. When I saw that, I fell in love 1022 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: with you even or because I mean, you can you 1023 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: can tell a story from compassion, You can tell a 1024 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: story from from dangerous situations that even life threatening to you. 1025 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: But throughout all your calm and that's what you're doing 1026 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 1: is and if you calm your fluent and don't stop, 1027 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: and I hope for hope, you know, in the future 1028 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: I can bring you on my show and talk about 1029 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: other future projects. But every Wednesday on National Geographic is 1030 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: your show? Anything else? Before you wrap up? Oh no, 1031 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for 1032 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: all those kind words, and I love to be If 1033 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: if this is how are you going to talk about me? 1034 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call on this show all the time. Happen 1035 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: so I really appreciate Now you're fantastic to show it 1036 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: fantastic and again I'll do my best to promoting on 1037 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 1: all different levels of my social media and digital platforms. 1038 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: But more importantly, you know is the year of the 1039 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: female and you are leading away my friend. Okay, so 1040 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: sweet to Sean. Thank you so much. 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He 1065 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 1: is a celebrity fitness trainer, ordained minister, former ballet dancer 1066 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: Something I could Never do, wellness expert, motivational speaker, founder 1067 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: and owner Braced Life Studios, and founder of the Day 1068 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: Challenge weldness program. He's known in the Finnish community as 1069 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: the Mind, Body, Soul connector. He's been seeing on Good 1070 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: Morning in America, The View, The Food Network, Shape Magazine, 1071 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: Self Magazine, New York Daily News, Bloomberg Business and b 1072 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: et dot com. But he's walking the money making conversation again. 1073 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: My man, is that time of the year, y'all, First 1074 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: of the year, New Year, Get that weight off Robert Braces. 1075 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: But you know I had your last year. I had 1076 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: to bring you back for that day talent and talk 1077 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: to us. Oh, thank you so much for having me 1078 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: back on especially at the beginning of the year when 1079 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: we know so many people are thinking about their wellness, 1080 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: thinking about you know, how to elevate their mind, body 1081 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: and soul. So this is the perfect time. So it's 1082 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: good to be back. Well, I missed you. I was 1083 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: in New York last the first quarter last year. Came 1084 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: by this shop over Maulberry Street, right about their clamhouse 1085 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: up there. How has COVID affected the fitness game man, 1086 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: because we all were shocked. You know, we were shut 1087 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: down for two weeks, but you had to come out 1088 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: of that. How did it a New Yorker steel that's 1089 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: what you're based in New York City? And so how 1090 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: each state has different rules for COVID eighteen. So how 1091 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: has that affected your business? Well, Listen, it was devastating 1092 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: for us in the beginning because we had spent the 1093 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: probably six months getting ready for a big launch in March, 1094 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: and right when we were ready to kind of relaudnch 1095 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: our brand um in the new studio, we got asked 1096 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: to shut down. So we were shut down for six months, 1097 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: and that has affected a lot of the fitness businesses 1098 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: in New York, especially the small operators UM and so 1099 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: it's decimated a lot of businesses, you know. UM. But 1100 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, one of my phrases that I 1101 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: use a lot is looked plans change, but purposes permanents. Right, 1102 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: So even though plans change, the your purpose, the deep 1103 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: soul level, passionate purpose that you live by, that's permanent. 1104 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,479 Speaker 1: And so my purpose is always to encourage uplift others, 1105 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: help them make that mind, body and soul connection. And 1106 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: so we found new ways to do that. We've created 1107 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: a new app, the Brace Life, and uh that's going 1108 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: to be free to everybody in January, right, free to everybody. 1109 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: You get your motivated, it should need, get your workouts, 1110 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: you get your talent. Helps us really and help me specifically, 1111 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: really focus in on what my true purpose is. And look, 1112 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: we're still here, our gym is still survived, and so 1113 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: people are still coming, people want to work out, people 1114 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: are seeking us out. So you know we've been we've 1115 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: been blessed well day. That's the key people seeking you 1116 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: out because you can promote. It's like you're having a 1117 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: great hamburger, nobody is there to buy it. Okay, there's 1118 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: no cases a great workout program. Talk about this the app, 1119 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go back to the twenty day program. 1120 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: But let's tell us about the app. So when I 1121 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: get the word app is free? Is downloadable? Is their 1122 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: name for the app. The app is called the Brace Life. 1123 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: All they need to do is go to the brace 1124 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: life dot com the brace life dot com and listen. 1125 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: This is the first daily lifestyle wellness app with personalized 1126 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: data tracking to empower your mind, body and soul lifestyle practice. Right. 1127 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: So a lot of people talk about, you know, fitness 1128 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: sometimes usually one or two dimensional. You got your workouts, 1129 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: you've got nutrition, You've got your workouts, maybe you have 1130 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: your your meditation. But what we're trying to do, especially 1131 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: during this time, Look, one thing covid n Things taught 1132 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: us is that we can't wait to start living our 1133 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: best lives. Right. We need to do it today in 1134 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: every interaction, in every word spoken, and every action and reaction. 1135 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: And so this app is designed to really help people 1136 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: make that mind, body and soul connection right. The mind 1137 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: being the intelligent problem solving part of you the body obviously, 1138 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: the physical aspect of who you are and your soul 1139 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: where you feel joy, peace, love, gratitude, right, and so 1140 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: with through workouts, meditations, and there's a lot of motivational 1141 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: inspiration that people are going to get in this app 1142 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: and it's going to help them really launch their year 1143 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: in a healthy, positive way. So we're giving you everything 1144 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: including life workouts with my team, live workouts with me 1145 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: and so honestly, you know, what's happened this year for 1146 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: me personally has really helped me focus and decide what 1147 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: do I really have to give and what is this 1148 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Mormon asking me to give? And how can I deliver that? 1149 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: And that's how the Brace life app came about. So 1150 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, just joined go to the Brace life dot com. 1151 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I've got you covered for your whole January and it's different. 1152 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: It's not just a regular workout mapp. You really will 1153 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: connect your mind, your body, and your soul. Days why 1154 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight days? Okay, twenty eight days a signature program 1155 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: that can't put us on the map, so to refresh people. 1156 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: This is the program that a comedian came and asked 1157 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: me if I could get him in shape in in 1158 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: thirty days and get six pack abbs in thirty days. 1159 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: And I just said, yes, comedian, you see a comedian. Yeah, 1160 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: he was a comedian. Mark Marco, he's a filmmaker and 1161 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: he does these different projects, right, these insane projects. He 1162 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: went to all Starbucks in Manhattan Island in a day. 1163 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: And so his next insane project was, look, these fitness 1164 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: magazines say that you can get six back adds in 1165 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: thirty days. Can that really be done? And so he 1166 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: came to me and I said, sure, we can do 1167 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: it in thirty days, and we ended up doing it. 1168 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: And this was back in two thousand eleven, and that 1169 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: video he posted it on an obscure platform and that platform, 1170 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: it got a million views, right, sorry, two thousand got 1171 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: a million views, And so people started seeking me out 1172 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: and since then, the Challenges has become a signature program 1173 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: where we transform people's bodies in twenty eight days UM 1174 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: and so uh, it's it's an intense program that that 1175 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: is the most intense program that we offer. But it 1176 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: comes with a meal plan. It comes with UM specific 1177 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: cardio protocols designed to really strip down body, flat flat 1178 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: and mold your body within a short period of time. 1179 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it's talk about that first program. 1180 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Let's let's slow you back down, you know, because you 1181 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,919 Speaker 1: know thirty days and you have a person who says 1182 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: he wants it done, but really doing it for arterior motives. 1183 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: She's doing it for radio project or a doctorseries. So 1184 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: what were the frustrations in the process and what were 1185 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the uplifting moments for you in that process? Are working 1186 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: with a person there's the first time you did this 1187 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: type of program, which is because a signature part of 1188 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: your program. So now you know what the bumps in 1189 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the road are in this particular program where people will 1190 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: push back, what the pushback was in the initial program 1191 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: with him. I think the pushback. The one thing that 1192 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I remember working with market and and has shown itself 1193 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in subsequent clients and projects, is that people think it's 1194 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: um People try to oversimplify it. There is a lot 1195 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: of science and there is a lot of dedication that 1196 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: you have to put in to make this work right. 1197 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: And so it's not just a matter of well, I'm 1198 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: going to cut a few meals here and there getting 1199 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: people to see the look. You can have what you want, 1200 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: it's right here, right, but you have to go through 1201 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: steps A, B, C, and D in this order to 1202 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 1: get there right. And so I think initially, Mike, where 1203 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: I had to grow is learning to communicate that in 1204 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: a way that is encouraging and uplifting and inspiring and 1205 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: so um in terms. So that was one of the challenges. Right, 1206 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,919 Speaker 1: everybody wants what does it? Everybody wants to go to heaven, 1207 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: but nobody wants to die, right. Everybody wants to abs 1208 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: but nobody wants to do the work right. So so 1209 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it's getting people through that process and helping people to 1210 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: connect and visualize their goals and how they see themselves 1211 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: with the work that they're putting in every single day. 1212 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: And once you make that connection, then that's like rocket fuel. Right, 1213 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: They're like, Oh, I want to be here. I can 1214 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: see myself there, and in order to get there, all 1215 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: I gotta do is these steps every single day and 1216 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: stay focused on what's right in front of me. That's 1217 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: where it becomes inspiring. And you know, Mark went on 1218 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and yet an incredible transformation. It's one of the most 1219 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: dramatic transformations we've better had. And so you know, he's 1220 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: just been one of those people who's always supported our 1221 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: program and that we ended up one of the highlights. Uh. 1222 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: The program ended up being turned into an infomercial, and 1223 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: so we were flown out to l A. We're on 1224 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: a sound stage, uh build for the twenty eight day challenge, 1225 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 1: and Mark, who was there at the beginning, was there 1226 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: one of those you know, big moments were graduations because 1227 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: you know it's great. One thing I liked about that 1228 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: whole stories when I talk about people who come on 1229 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: my show, and I talked about the purpose of money 1230 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 1: making conversation being ready and not shine away from a challenge. 1231 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: Like you said, there was something you've never done before, 1232 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: but it was presented to you. You felt that you 1233 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,439 Speaker 1: could pull it off without proper planning, but you knew 1234 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: that you knew your brain and you knew what your 1235 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: brain is based upon, and so a lot of people 1236 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: shy away from That's what I always tell people. Let's 1237 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: walking out in the dark without a flashlight, but your 1238 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: flashlight was that your brand was on sound footing and 1239 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: you knew how to accomplish the test. Talk about when 1240 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: people are presenting you with ideas and how people shouldn't 1241 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: shot away from that, and how he was able to 1242 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: overcome that doubt when this project was presented. Uh, I 1243 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: think that you know, everything that you do in life 1244 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: is preparation. And when opportunities or challenges like that are 1245 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: presented for me, you know, part of my background is 1246 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm spiritual. I was a minister for many years. For me, 1247 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: it's um, you know, God saying to me, it's time 1248 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: for you to be scrapped. It's time for you to 1249 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: be uncomfortable. And that's where the blessings really come from. 1250 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: And look, you might not be successful in every single one, 1251 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 1: right Listen, if you haven't failed enough, it means you 1252 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: haven't been trying hard enough, right, But you're gonna fail 1253 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 1: us some things that you're gonna learn through those failures. 1254 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, when those opportunities are presented, 1255 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: it's it's just like an opening a door to the gateway. 1256 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to come from that. You 1257 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's behind that door. And so so long 1258 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: as you can stay true to your core beliefs, true 1259 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: to your integrity, true to the trajectory that you see 1260 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: yourself on. Right, when these opportunities present themselves, um, it's 1261 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: it's time for me. It's always represented as an open door, 1262 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 1: a time to step up and discover something new. And 1263 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: if I had not stepped up, really a huge part 1264 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of what has helped my personal brand and my gym 1265 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: be successful, I would never have I would never have 1266 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: been introduced to And that's really important. And now, now, 1267 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: when I came by your studio when I was in 1268 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: New York, and I would look at the one let 1269 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: you notice right now, Robert, I'd be in New York 1270 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: two weeks a month starting you January eight. So you 1271 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: definitely need to take this old body and kind of like, 1272 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about my old body, because that's a lot 1273 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: of This is the first of the year and we 1274 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: all want to get in shape immediately, you know, But 1275 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: there's a process, Like I've learned that. Like I'm moving 1276 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: into a new building and I found myself going up 1277 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 1: and down steps and my knees started talking to me. 1278 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: That means that my knees will say, okay, you you 1279 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: look like you're in shape or show, but your knees 1280 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 1: are not prepared for going up and down these steps. 1281 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about doing the process right with your program 1282 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: in general, and not trying to overextend the physical capability 1283 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: that your body is not prepared to undertake. Yes, you, 1284 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: this is really important, and I'm glad you asked this 1285 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: question because sometimes when people like me come on a show, 1286 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: it can seem like and I've just talked about a 1287 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight day program, right, so it can seem like 1288 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you're just gonna go hard and you're gonna smash your body. 1289 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: That's definitely not where we come from. Right. My background, 1290 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: as you know, it was a professional dancers that was 1291 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: in school. I was an athlete, and so one of 1292 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the main things that we focus on is doing things 1293 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: with the right form and the right technique. Right, Because 1294 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: if you do things with the right form and you 1295 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 1: may take a little more longer on the beginning end, right, 1296 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 1: your body is going to adapt to proper form and 1297 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 1: it's going to accelerate your results. Whereas if you just 1298 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 1: bang away at your body and you're not listening to 1299 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: your body, it can exacerbate any injuries. Um and it 1300 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: can and it can ultimately take you longer to get 1301 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to where you want to be. So you talk about 1302 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: your old body, right, there's no old bodies. Your body 1303 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: has a lot of wisdom in it. Your body has 1304 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: been through a lot of things. I know that you 1305 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,680 Speaker 1: work out. You can set at me on that well, 1306 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: on my knees. Well, listen, your knees be talking to you, 1307 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: because they've got something to say some places, right. So 1308 01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: so since in some places there's a wisdom of the right. 1309 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: So what do I mean by that is that your 1310 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: your body has a muscle memory, right, and so the 1311 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: more that you train it in the right way, the 1312 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: more that is going to adapt and respond. Right. And 1313 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 1: so it's just a matter of doing things in the 1314 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: right way over time and your body will change and respond. 1315 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: What I say to my clients is gentle uh uh, 1316 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: gentle pressure applied relentlessly, right, little general pressure applied relentlessly, 1317 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: and your body is going to change and physically, but 1318 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,480 Speaker 1: again too scientifical technical. There's this thing called specific adaptation 1319 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 1: to imposed demand. If you um impose a demand on 1320 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 1: your body specifically and over time, your body will specifically 1321 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: adapt to meet that demand. And that is how it 1322 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: will change and mold to be the body that you 1323 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: want it to be. And that's when your serotonin goes up, 1324 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: your dolphins go up, you get the jo or you 1325 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: get the stress relief. In addition to your body changing, 1326 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: that's what makes it a whole mind, body, and soul experience. Okay, 1327 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: that that give away the whole program. But what are 1328 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: some of the major steps, Like, you know, I do 1329 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: a little light workout, I do walking, I do some cardio, 1330 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 1: I do so you know, do the core. What are 1331 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the dynamics of the twenty day program? You did say 1332 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: there's a meal plan associated because like you said, you 1333 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 1: can't go out there w b tees Burgers and try 1334 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: to do a twenty day program at the same time. 1335 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Let's go and get that right. So right, so how 1336 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: does this start and how does it end in that 1337 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: twenty day period? Okay, so there are for instance, if 1338 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: you go once somewhere at there are four signature workouts, right, 1339 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: and they're designed to be done one after the other. 1340 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: So we start you off with a dynamic warm up. 1341 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: We teach you the principles in the in the course 1342 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 1: before you even start, we show you the principles of 1343 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: how to move your body as a principal I called 1344 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: fierce form. So how to move your body in the 1345 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: right posture in the right way so that you accelerate 1346 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 1: your results and get everything that we've talked about. And 1347 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,280 Speaker 1: also how to engage your core engaging your core in 1348 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: the right way means that over time you're going to 1349 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,560 Speaker 1: be able to do more explosive movements faster. So we 1350 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: progress the movements and the workorkouts in a certain way. 1351 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,680 Speaker 1: And so there's the four basic ones. But then as 1352 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: we go we'll be doing live workouts as well, so 1353 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 1: people will be able to join in for free, especially 1354 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: in January. The live workouts that are going to add 1355 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: to those four. They see workouts and you'll see we 1356 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: build up your core, we build up your form, then 1357 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: we build up your power, then we build up your durance, 1358 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,600 Speaker 1: then we build up your own athletic ability, and it 1359 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: just slowly, slowly rises like this. And so within either 1360 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 1: twenty eight calendar days or twenty eight actual workouts, those 1361 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: are the two versions, you get a whole body transformation. 1362 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 1: And what we've added it Listen, But I want people 1363 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: to understand is the challenge we've done all day, every day, 1364 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: and we've get We've gotten results many, many, many times, 1365 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: especially in this year. We want people to connect their 1366 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: mind to what they're doing. And this is the reason 1367 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: why people are coming off COVID nineteen. There's a lot 1368 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: of anxiety, there's a lot of depressing a lot of 1369 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 1: people going through many different things. Everybody has a different 1370 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: life story. When you move your body, the thing to 1371 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 1: understand is that it produces something called serotonin, which is 1372 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 1: which increases your joy, increases endolphins, which takes the edge 1373 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 1: off of the physical markers of stress. And especially for 1374 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people in black communities, you know, the 1375 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: markers of stress are affecting us in terms of arthritis, 1376 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: um in terms of inflammation in our jointing, in our 1377 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 1: arteries which can lead to heart problems, which can lead 1378 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: to diabetes, affecting our aggestive issues. Right, And so when 1379 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: you move, you get more serotonin tone which gives you 1380 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: more joy, You get more endolphins, which takes the edge 1381 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: of your stress. There's even a hormone called endo cannabinoids, 1382 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 1: and it increases your bliss, It helps you think more clearly, 1383 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,120 Speaker 1: increases the executive functioning of your brain. So in addition 1384 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,640 Speaker 1: to a changed body, you're getting a changed mind. And 1385 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: in addition to a changed mind, you're getting feelings of 1386 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:22,839 Speaker 1: of of joy, of peace. It actually increases the love hormones, 1387 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 1: so your ability to bond with other people. So those 1388 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: those feelings of joy and peace, love, those are spiritual 1389 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: soul level qualities. So you change your body, you elevate 1390 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 1: your mind, and you refresh your soul. So I want 1391 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: people to get the body change. Everybody wants to be snatched. 1392 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be looking good with their shirt off 1393 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 1: or in a swimsuit. Right, we got you no problem 1394 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: all day, every day. And in addition to that, we 1395 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: want to give you that elevated experience. You know, rob 1396 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: we all got the bathroom pose. You know what I'm saying. 1397 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: We look at that mirror. You're trying to get the 1398 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 1: bathroom pose out of the bathroom. Right, You're trying to 1399 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: get let me know, you know that look I'm talking about, Robert. 1400 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 1: We can turn left, turn right, that's right, this is 1401 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: look right here, this is to look right there. It's 1402 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 1: like that good for about five minutes. They walk out 1403 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,560 Speaker 1: of there, and the bathroom pools stays in the bathroom. 1404 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: You're trying to get the bathroom post into the general 1405 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: public with this day program and doing such a way 1406 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 1: that you don't have to scooping. That's the bathroom post. 1407 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Come on. Now, I'm a proponent of it. I'm an 1408 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 1: advocate of it. I've been doing it all my life. 1409 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: But this is one your brace life studio. I'm with 1410 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: the mind body, so connector Robert, Brace Robert. It's the 1411 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: first of the year. The first quarter is always that 1412 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save money, I'm gonna I'm gonna want to 1413 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 1: live a better life. I'm gonna I'm actually keep to 1414 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 1: my resolutions. A fine up. That's why we want to 1415 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: always want to bring you on the first of the year. 1416 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,560 Speaker 1: This is this is gonna becoming like our annual our relationship, 1417 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: you know every year. Man, get a roll in twenty 1418 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: eight days. You start in January and February Black History money. 1419 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 1: If you are African America, you can be motivated to 1420 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: say I prepared to celebrate you Black History Month as 1421 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 1: a celebration because you've achieved your first major goal of 1422 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: the year, the twenty eight day talent. Now, how do 1423 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: you sustain that desire? Robert? How do you sustain that 1424 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: you In your last comment, just Um explained something that 1425 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: people need to know about sustaining it right. Listen again, 1426 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: don't want to get too technical, but you've got to 1427 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,839 Speaker 1: connect your long term goals to something bigger than yourself 1428 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: or to your bigger life goal. Right, and what I mean, 1429 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 1: is you just talked about Black History months right doing 1430 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: something that we're all going to be celebrating, and that 1431 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 1: is bigger than us right as it is. And look, 1432 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 1: there is still more work to be done in this arena. 1433 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 1: We've got for me in my house, and I've got 1434 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 1: my daughters I've got to raise and I've got to 1435 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: help them be more focused. I've got to I've got 1436 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 1: to help them see the love in themselves and love 1437 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: themselves so who they are too, beautiful black girls. And 1438 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: so I need to be strong and available. And so 1439 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: because I need to be strong and available, I need 1440 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: physically to be where I need to be so that 1441 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I can give them the attention that they need, with 1442 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 1: the energy that they need, so that I can be 1443 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: there for my wife, be there for my kids. And 1444 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: that is that's that's a belief right in the center 1445 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: of my being. And so I make that the reason 1446 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: why I work on my body. And we have got 1447 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: to connect to the higher goals in our lives. Yes, 1448 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: it's been shown that when people go for just merely 1449 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: short goals, after you reach the goal, there's a little 1450 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: bit of a depression to go and then it's like, 1451 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: what's next, and many many programs say, Okay, you've got 1452 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: to go onto maintenance. But maintenance maintenance is who wants 1453 01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 1: to just maintain? Right? People want to excel, people, people 1454 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: want to grow, people want to elevate. I don't want 1455 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 1: to spend my life maintaining, right, and so what we're 1456 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 1: going to do is connect with a higher goal. Right. 1457 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: So I want to be there for my kids to 1458 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: do this work that I do, which I consider an 1459 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 1: extent ministry, right, So I need to be strong for that. 1460 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: So everybody's going to figure out what is your big why? 1461 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 1: What is the big why? Um that you need to 1462 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 1: take care of your body to make sure that you're strong, 1463 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 1: to make sure that your mental strength is where it 1464 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: needs to be, and you're at peace in your soul. Right, 1465 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 1: So that's how you keep it going long term. And 1466 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: then if you want to do a twenty eight day, 1467 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: you smash it for twenty eight days. Then you go 1468 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 1: back to your lifestyle, a lifestyle regiment. And then as 1469 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: you want to move from a lifestyle regiment to look 1470 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: for an adventure, maybe you want to go on a hike, 1471 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe you want to climb it. Then then you do that. 1472 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 1: But your prime goal your prime purpose is always connected 1473 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,640 Speaker 1: to why you're moving your body and why you're exercising. 1474 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 1: It's going to be elevated and that's one of the 1475 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 1: things we talked about. We can know at the beginning 1476 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: of the end of you. I talked about your studio 1477 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: on one one thirty two Mallberry Street down a little 1478 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: place I visited and peep through little door, so I 1479 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 1: saw I saw a studio. It's not a big studio, 1480 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: so a studio that how many people can get in 1481 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: your studio? And with people coming out of COVID, you know, 1482 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 1: with the vaccine coming out, look, I expect people at 1483 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter to start start coming 1484 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,719 Speaker 1: into studios starting to be reminded that they can interact, 1485 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 1: talk about your studio size and the location and what 1486 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: benefits of coming to your studio. Will half of people 1487 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 1: who attend? Okay, So yeah, we've got I mean, for 1488 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 1: a Boutich studio, it's a decent size. We've got square 1489 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: feet and you know what what in typical times we 1490 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 1: can have a capacity of fifty people, but during COVID 1491 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: we've produced that to sixty. Right, Well, the building has 1492 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 1: the rum as a capacity fifty people, right but during 1493 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 1: COVID the maximum occupancy is sixteen. But we've gone further one. 1494 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: We are we've passed our health inspection and we've gotten 1495 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 1: a grade in terms of our COVID cleanliness. And so 1496 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: we're trying to limit the amount of people in the 1497 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:24,599 Speaker 1: studio to just three to five clients will for the trainer, right, um, 1498 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 1: so that there's enough space between everybody. Everybody feels safe. Um. 1499 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 1: And look, we can have sixteen people in the studio, 1500 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: but we just want to go Look, if if we're 1501 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 1: talking about helping people be well, then we need to 1502 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,600 Speaker 1: go above and beyond that when people are in our 1503 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: environment that they are well and so, um and so 1504 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 1: and so. Yeah, people are coming back already. We've even 1505 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,720 Speaker 1: at the end part of this year. People are in 1506 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 1: the studio working out, maintaining the distance, wearing the masks, 1507 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 1: getting in shape, and we're going to continue. They need 1508 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 1: to do that. And we've been one of the luckiest 1509 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Gusts of especially she has a black owned business. Take 1510 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: that as a badge of one of for my team, 1511 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: for our clients and for everybody who's um, you know, 1512 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 1: come through the studio. Well, I'm talking to Robert Braids 1513 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna see me this year. Okay, Robert, 1514 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: you see me. J You know, like I said, j 1515 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: W eight, I be up there because when I get 1516 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 1: off studio. Hey, man, ain't too many things you can 1517 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,760 Speaker 1: do now with COVID. So one of the things that 1518 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: I know I have to do is come see you. Now. 1519 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,839 Speaker 1: Now with me coming up there, what type of schedule 1520 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 1: would you put me on? You know, how would you 1521 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 1: introduce me to your studio at one mall Berry Street. 1522 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: One of the first things is we're gonna take you 1523 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 1: through the whole process, right, Um, you come in, you 1524 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and again it's all mine, buddy. So so you're you're introduced, 1525 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 1: You get a juice shop which is designed to make 1526 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: you more a lout, but also at the same time 1527 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: open your heart and lungs so that your oxygen is 1528 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 1: moving through your body better. Then we'll test you. I 1529 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 1: will make sure that the movements that we're going to 1530 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,719 Speaker 1: do are specific to you, right, and then we'll build 1531 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 1: your program, building your core, building your legs. After that 1532 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: the focused meditation that will help you connect with your 1533 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 1: goals and everything that we talked about. So we we 1534 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 1: put on these noise canceling headphones, so you cancel out 1535 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: all the noise around you. You go through this meditation 1536 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: and you connect mm hmm with those goals that we 1537 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. And then at the end you 1538 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: get another juice shut again to um alive in your 1539 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 1: sense and make your focus for the day. And then 1540 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 1: we give you spinach extract, which is a natural way 1541 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 1: for you to control your appetite. It's one of the 1542 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: most natural things that you can do to help you 1543 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 1: gain control of your appetite, especially for sugars and carbs. Okay, 1544 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: And so you're going to get the whole treatment, right, 1545 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 1: So let's go get real about this. Okay, I'm coming 1546 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: up there. January eight. Okay, Robert, Okay, so I would 1547 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: believe as you about in the studio January nine. Okay, 1548 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you open on Saturdays, right, okay, Okay, cool, and so 1549 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,479 Speaker 1: can make that make that happen for you? Yeah, okay, cool, 1550 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be serious. You know, Like I said, 1551 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm a guinea pig, but you know 1552 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a guinea pig for myself because I 1553 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,640 Speaker 1: need to. You know, I'll tell you something. You know, 1554 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: when I was like in the eighties. You know, I 1555 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 1: taught aerobics, you know, and I taught it, and so 1556 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 1: so I know the the whole motivational with the first 1557 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 1: of the year. I always know that people joined the 1558 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 1: class at the top of the month, and as you 1559 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 1: go through the month, they started dropping off, and then 1560 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,000 Speaker 1: you started zero again almost you know, because you start 1561 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 1: with thirty with ten. That's usually I happened at the 1562 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 1: top of the month, the first of the year. I mean, 1563 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you can't even you don't have enough spaces. People who 1564 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: sign up there. Everybody want to get motivated, and so 1565 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,680 Speaker 1: I noticed I know that process, and so so when 1566 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 1: me going up there and talking to you, this was 1567 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: a perfect interview for me because I know I'm going 1568 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: up there. I know that I might have free time, 1569 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 1: and so so January eight is when I'm gonna come 1570 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: up there. So January night, let's schedule my first session 1571 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: with you, and and let's get on the phone with 1572 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times, because I want to tell everybody 1573 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 1: this is a real commitment to to Brace life studios. 1574 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,600 Speaker 1: And we started to January nine, and I'll do with 1575 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,919 Speaker 1: some post we do we probably do some photos online 1576 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: and saying I'm at the studio started my first day 1577 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 1: of the twenty eight day challenge. Now here's my whole thing. Like, see, 1578 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 1: I'll be in New York January eight through the twenty second. Okay, 1579 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 1: then I'll go down and I'll be back into my 1580 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 1: office location in Atlanta. Can I still do the twenty 1581 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,440 Speaker 1: eight day challenge even though I'm not with you? Yeah? Absolutely, 1582 01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 1: And this is this is why we created this app. 1583 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: And I think what you're proposing is awesome, especially in January, 1584 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,840 Speaker 1: because I think we're gonna do a lot of good 1585 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 1: with this because while you're in Atlanta, we've got the apps, 1586 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 1: the workouts on the app prerecorded, and they're gonna be 1587 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: able to do live workouts as well, some with me, 1588 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: some with my team. Right, So if they go on 1589 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 1: to the brace life dot com and just get their 1590 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: name on that list, they're gonna and we start posting 1591 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 1: together and they see your progress. Um, Yeah, they can 1592 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 1: do it whether and you can do it whether you're 1593 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: in the studio with me or whether you're in another 1594 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,839 Speaker 1: city somewhere else. And we can also do remote sessions 1595 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 1: too if we want to give you know, if we 1596 01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 1: want to share, um, what we're going through with people 1597 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 1: because we do train a lot of our clients, especially 1598 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 1: during COVID remotely. Well, this is awesome. Like I said, Robert, 1599 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show again, the Brace 1600 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Life Studios. I'm making a commitment to you because I 1601 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 1: believe in you. And it's not so much about it's 1602 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: being twenty eight days. I just believe in your program. 1603 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 1: I believe in your authenticity. I believe in the fact 1604 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that you are a man, committed African American entrepreneur and 1605 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,680 Speaker 1: that survived COVID and survived COVID and we know how 1606 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: for six center those small businesses in America I be 1607 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,560 Speaker 1: shut down due to COVID and then and then and 1608 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: travesties is called to our economic flow, especially in the 1609 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,800 Speaker 1: restaurant and the fielding live entertainment business. But you're in 1610 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,479 Speaker 1: that business of being able to health and wellness, personalized fitness, 1611 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 1: and I need it. I've never had anybody trained me 1612 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 1: in my life. So at the age of sixty two, 1613 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm allowing myself to put into your hands, my friend 1614 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: and uh and and I do that with a smile 1615 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 1: on my face. And I'm excited to get into this program. 1616 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not doing it just to do a documentary 1617 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: on on a good living. I'm doing it because I 1618 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,559 Speaker 1: want to feel good about myself and that's what your program, 1619 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,200 Speaker 1: I feel would do for me. And uh any closing 1620 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 1: remarks on where they need to go to find out 1621 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: about your app and put that website out for the 1622 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,680 Speaker 1: last time, Robert, Yeah, sure, Well, thank you for this 1623 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: and thank you for trusting me. I look forward to 1624 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 1: the night. If you want to join, go to the 1625 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Brace be our a c life dot com sign up. 1626 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 1: It's free for January, right, So everything that we talked 1627 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,440 Speaker 1: about here, you're gonna get the workouts, to meditations, the motivation, 1628 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 1: the daily journal, you know, everything that we've talked about here. 1629 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 1: So the Brace Life dunt come and I'll see you 1630 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: that well, I see you on January nine, because we've 1631 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: talked prior to that because I really want to change 1632 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: my life and I feel the day challenge will change 1633 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: my life in the right direction for one and onwards. 1634 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm dedicating putting you in my hands. Brace 1635 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 1: Life Stales'll take care of you, man, We will take 1636 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 1: care of you for sure. I'm looking forward to that. Man. 1637 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna be exciting because of the fact that I 1638 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,960 Speaker 1: like you. I like you, I like your personality, man, 1639 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 1: And like I said, this is the second year in 1640 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 1: a row that we've talked about your program. You know, 1641 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 1: I was in Earnest because I came by your place 1642 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 1: and so you know something. So I've been inspired by 1643 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,640 Speaker 1: your conversation, been inspired by your brand, and so this 1644 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,320 Speaker 1: time I will get in and sit down, we're talking. 1645 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 1: I just want to go through an earnest program at 1646 01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,640 Speaker 1: my age to be able to understand my body a 1647 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,600 Speaker 1: little bit more. I feel like I understand it, but 1648 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 1: I've never understood it through a workout program. And this 1649 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: workout program I think, I feel would benefit me and 1650 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 1: also for my staff and my family and the and 1651 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,600 Speaker 1: the goals I have set for myself in one I 1652 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: need to be a I need to set a standard, 1653 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 1: and I think and I feel, the challenge would do 1654 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 1: the transformation for me both mind, body and spirit. Which 1655 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,599 Speaker 1: is so that you do. And you are the connector, 1656 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: my man, So you keep connecting, You're gonna connect me, right, 1657 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Well, I look thoughts said that. 1658 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's been great start the year, 1659 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 1: and I'm excited. Okay, cool, we'll talk to you We'll 1660 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: be right back with more from Rochelle McDonald and money 1661 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,639 Speaker 1: making conversations. Don't touch that doubt. Look to your children's 1662 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 1: eyes to see the true magic of a forest. It's 1663 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 1: a storybook world for them. You look and see a tree. 1664 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,559 Speaker 1: They see the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms 1665 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,720 Speaker 1: outstretched to the sky. They see treasuring pebbles. They see 1666 01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 1: a windy path that could lead to adventure, and they 1667 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 1: see you. They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? 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I 1689 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,320 Speaker 1: am Ra Sean McDonald hosts of Money Making Conversation dot com. 1690 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,200 Speaker 1: The Cafe Moocha Swagg Award is a celebration of black 1691 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,240 Speaker 1: men making a difference in our community by empowering others 1692 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,719 Speaker 1: to reach their life goals. They can be civic leaders, 1693 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 1: people in business, activists, celebrities, and everyday dance. The Cafe 1694 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 1: Mocha Swagg Award honor read this week is Maul and Evans. 1695 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 1: He is more than a farmer athlete, a farmer Stafford 1696 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,600 Speaker 1: University football and track star in twent team. Marla was 1697 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 1: named CEO of Next qu This investor creates and accelerates 1698 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 1: frontier tech companies. Emphasizing the digital, health and financial tech, 1699 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 1: including the HBCU Founders Program, is what makes for successful entrepreneurs. 1700 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 1: And we just want to flip that light and say, look, 1701 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 1: you can do this as well. You've you've proven you 1702 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 1: have that desire and that will. Now just make sure 1703 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,439 Speaker 1: get the resources that can help that girl. And that's 1704 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 1: what we're due to the HBC Founders Program. The Captain 1705 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 1: Morka Square Award represents men who have strength, whose wisdom 1706 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: is assertive, and who is genuine in their spirit. Welcome 1707 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,839 Speaker 1: back to money making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. 1708 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 1: My next guest is Barbara Furlow Smiles and Earnest Smiles. 1709 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 1: She is the lead Strategist, Global head of Employment, Research 1710 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Group and Diversity Engagement at Facebook. Now. Outside of her 1711 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 1: role in Facebook and operating Smiles Chill, Barbara's found a 1712 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 1: BT consultant, LLC and co found of a nonprofit globu 1713 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Smiles Health, which is focused on sustainable health and providing 1714 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,799 Speaker 1: people with the basic needs of living around the globe, 1715 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,599 Speaker 1: one community and smile at a time. Now. Smiles Shields 1716 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,040 Speaker 1: is a family owned and operating company founded about Barbara 1717 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:51,120 Speaker 1: and her husband muscle bound Earnest smiles. The smiles seals 1718 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 1: of major ardor for the categories of children luxury, be dazzled, 1719 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,800 Speaker 1: and name customization. Please work into the money making to 1720 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 1: please work with the money making. Laughing, so please working 1721 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: the money making a conversation Ernest and Barbara Furlow smiles. 1722 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,200 Speaker 1: How y'all doing. We're doing an amazing rush. Thank you 1723 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,600 Speaker 1: so much for having us. Like I said, man, I've 1724 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 1: been looking forward to this interview. I've been counting down 1725 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 1: the clock toll to this time. So I'm happy to 1726 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 1: be here. My wife and I. Well, first of all, 1727 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, I want to thank everybody who are who 1728 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,639 Speaker 1: are challenging themselves. When I look at what you guys 1729 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: are doing, you challenge yourself to understand that we're in 1730 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,439 Speaker 1: the pandemic. When you see the stock market is flying 1731 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,599 Speaker 1: off the charts. You don't have to be the person 1732 01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 1: that's been laid off. Other person who's in the line 1733 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,080 Speaker 1: saying waiting for somebody to hand out. And I'm not 1734 01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: saying that negatively, but we have to be smart about 1735 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,440 Speaker 1: it because somehow in this pandemic, when we see unemployment 1736 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 1: we see food lines. Somebody's making money and somebody's out 1737 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 1: there going to Costco. Amazon stock is on fire because 1738 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,479 Speaker 1: old line. Just on the Cyber Monday it was twelve 1739 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 1: point seven billion dollars and sales on Black Friday there 1740 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: was over nine billion dollars in sales. So there has 1741 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 1: to be a sense that there is economic positivity in 1742 01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,600 Speaker 1: play right now. So the whole concept of what you 1743 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,320 Speaker 1: guys are doing with the shields are right in line 1744 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,479 Speaker 1: with what we're dealing with with the pandemic. Now, tell 1745 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 1: us about how the concept came about. And I know 1746 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 1: it's the first time coming on money making conversations. Please, 1747 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,880 Speaker 1: we are this about everything you've done. I'm not here 1748 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,680 Speaker 1: to do blasting your thing. I just want you to 1749 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 1: tell your story is a power couple because Earnest you 1750 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 1: have your shield on, and Barbara you got your shield on. 1751 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,559 Speaker 1: And the reason I love it I can see your smiles. 1752 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,559 Speaker 1: And then here's the thing about YouTube, y'all y'all tied 1753 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: it to your last names. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. So 1754 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,640 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna Earnest talk. That's my man, Benless he might, 1755 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,759 Speaker 1: he might, got I got you cover. Rush well be honest, 1756 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,799 Speaker 1: this product, just if I must span it was actually 1757 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 1: shot down in an NBA Graham. I go to Syracuse 1758 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 1: University finishing up my last two classes, and it was 1759 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,640 Speaker 1: developed during the last semester, and I actually brought it 1760 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,240 Speaker 1: to an NBA group and say, I have this great 1761 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:16,400 Speaker 1: idea about these customized shields, and they were like, well, 1762 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work because we have to wear masks. 1763 01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: I said, you don't understand what I'm saying. I have 1764 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 1: this great idea about designing customized shields for customers to have, 1765 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,479 Speaker 1: and it was declined. But I said, you know what, 1766 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna make these shields, and I'm gonna prove 1767 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: to you that you don't have to listen to what 1768 01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,760 Speaker 1: any other group says. If you believe in it and 1769 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: you know there's a market, just push yourself through right now, 1770 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,760 Speaker 1: because I I love that. Then, Barbara, I don't you 1771 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 1: want to comment on that, because that's somebody told him, no, 1772 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and quite frankly, I don't 1773 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 1: think he hears that word right. So, so tell us 1774 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,040 Speaker 1: about the whole process of you know, because it's trademark 1775 01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: and we know and and all that stuff. And so 1776 01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 1: talk about of the process of developing a product. Yes, 1777 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,680 Speaker 1: so Ernest came home like he normally does, with a 1778 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,280 Speaker 1: brilliant idea. That's what we do. We support each other. 1779 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 1: And the first initial shield was a Dodger shield. So 1780 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 1: you see this, you see the makeup in the in 1781 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,680 Speaker 1: the flyingness, right. So I was like, we gotta take 1782 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,880 Speaker 1: it to another level. So one of the things we 1783 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 1: initially thought of was creating different collections. So you see 1784 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 1: here laying around the shield, um dazzled, we have luxury, um, 1785 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 1: et cetera. Now this is right, I means I can 1786 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 1: contact you and it's made to order. Correct. Yeah, so 1787 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 1: we have a website. Okay, okay, now I'm gonna I'm 1788 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna help some people because, like something, some of this 1789 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 1: place back on podcast too, so it's all the only 1790 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 1: of course, it plays off on video and on YouTube. 1791 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: Now there are two things she has to shield and 1792 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 1: on the outside of the shield it's a smile and 1793 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: then inside there's a band that holds the seal the place. 1794 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,800 Speaker 1: They strategically allowed you to put the logo branding on 1795 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: that as well. Who came up with that idea the 1796 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 1: double brand logo that double branding. Yeah that was yep. 1797 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: Can you hear me, Rush, I can hear that? Okay, Cool? Now, 1798 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,839 Speaker 1: who came up with the idea of the double pect 1799 01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:32,760 Speaker 1: the double branding of the logos? Oh? I did? Um. 1800 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 1: What I thought about was and when even when I 1801 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 1: saw the first Dodger one, I said, I'm gonna take 1802 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,679 Speaker 1: this back to Detroit, Michigan. And I'm explaining I'm from Detroit. 1803 01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,960 Speaker 1: We used to wear a name but belt buckles. And 1804 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,599 Speaker 1: I said, I said, man, I bet people would love 1805 01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 1: to have a Fay shield just like the buckle. If 1806 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,080 Speaker 1: you look at the black band, it's nothing but a 1807 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 1: belt when with your what's your what's your name on it? 1808 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 1: And I do stinking back to back to that time, 1809 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,800 Speaker 1: and I said, we were we went crazy for these, right, 1810 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,280 Speaker 1: I said, I know this will work on a face shield. 1811 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,640 Speaker 1: And this is what you see with both what we 1812 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: both have on at the present moment. Okay, Cool, Let 1813 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,880 Speaker 1: me ask you this the process of making a customize 1814 01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 1: what is is it? A number of hours? Is a 1815 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,559 Speaker 1: number of days? So let me just take for attention 1816 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 1: to the shield that you have for I'm looking at 1817 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 1: two different shields because on your sheild Barbera. You have 1818 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,200 Speaker 1: bedazzle around the trimp. You have a big dazzle trimp. Okay, now, 1819 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,719 Speaker 1: earnest on your shield. It's clean. It's a very clear screen. 1820 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,080 Speaker 1: You can see their eyes, their nose, beautiful smiles and 1821 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 1: which I missed with masks. I missed that because I 1822 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,280 Speaker 1: like to encourage people with a smile that guess what, 1823 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 1: we're into this together. We're gonna get through this together. 1824 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,759 Speaker 1: When you wear a mask, you can't do that, okay, 1825 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,799 Speaker 1: but the sill allows you to smile at the person's 1826 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,800 Speaker 1: saying hello. You know, look up, beat when you're going 1827 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,760 Speaker 1: in the grocery store, look up when you come out 1828 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 1: of home depot. Life is not that bad, you know, 1829 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mad at white people. White people 1830 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't be mad at me. You know, this is important 1831 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 1: when the in the in the in the world that 1832 01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,120 Speaker 1: we live in now, when you see so much anger, 1833 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 1: so much hay, so much doubt, people afraid of so 1834 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,240 Speaker 1: much bad media that's put in social media, that's putting 1835 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 1: the digital world. So with that said, the numb bidazzo, 1836 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,560 Speaker 1: how long does it take trim and how does it 1837 01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:28,240 Speaker 1: take them do the bidazzo trip Barbara. Yeah, so it 1838 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 1: takes pretty much for hours. Well, let's let's make sure 1839 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,680 Speaker 1: we get that fully correct. That's her like orders of 1840 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: twenty and thirty. We can make one of one or 1841 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 1: more of the shields and approximately. Honestly, if I call 1842 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,880 Speaker 1: right now said make me a money making conversations, I 1843 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 1: get you one of thirty minutes with my staff. See, 1844 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,600 Speaker 1: that's what I gotta do. I gotta give me a 1845 01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 1: money making conversation. So I could I need to have 1846 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,280 Speaker 1: that wait till I make that ship because you know, 1847 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on social media. You know, I'm 1848 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,640 Speaker 1: let all my million, my million followers know about this 1849 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 1: because first of all, first of all, the entrepreneurs, now, okay, 1850 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,879 Speaker 1: on the ernest, what do you do with your your 1851 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,519 Speaker 1: your forty hour week or your entrepreneurs side other than 1852 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,559 Speaker 1: the shields? And also, I'm gonna ask you that because 1853 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: I want to let everybody to know that I watch 1854 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 1: your people. If you want to be successful, take that 1855 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hours as you could every day, learn to 1856 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 1: take advantage of every hour. It seems that you guys 1857 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:34,040 Speaker 1: follow that motto. Well, let me say first rush that 1858 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,439 Speaker 1: there is no forty hour week for us yes, there 1859 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: really is. Our Our week runs congrueing, meaning they all 1860 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 1: blame all the days blending together. We we work off 1861 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 1: for goals, meaning you know, the days just are there 1862 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 1: to set our goals. And what we do is we 1863 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 1: live off of what is the goal for the week. 1864 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 1: Meaning if my goal is something that requires me to 1865 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 1: work another twelve hours, I'm working the whole twelve hours, right, 1866 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,320 Speaker 1: So there's no such thing gas at the eight hour mark. 1867 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm shutting it down at four o'clock. I wake up 1868 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 1: at three in the morning and say I still got 1869 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,800 Speaker 1: some emails and saying I'm sending my emails. So I'm based. 1870 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,160 Speaker 1: I based my week off a task, not not off 1871 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 1: of off of the day. So when you understand that 1872 01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 1: the entrepreneur, there should never be an eight to four 1873 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,639 Speaker 1: set clock because then that would mean you just limited yourself. 1874 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,720 Speaker 1: And if Rush call for money making conversations and want 1875 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,560 Speaker 1: you to come on the show, you say, Rush, I 1876 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,599 Speaker 1: can't make it because I'm off at four o'clock. Right, 1877 01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,120 Speaker 1: So he Rush called me rushing here two in the 1878 01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,160 Speaker 1: morning on the show. I'm getting on the show. That's 1879 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,360 Speaker 1: what I like about you, sir, Thank you very But 1880 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,160 Speaker 1: now Barbara I I know I got hercules over that 1881 01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,439 Speaker 1: to you right, no hercules over you know you know 1882 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 1: he got what you know something there is a deal 1883 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 1: because when you came on before she was in the job, 1884 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,479 Speaker 1: you know he was up. I'm gready for this interview. 1885 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,920 Speaker 1: And I see you know you you're married to Bunny. Okay, 1886 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't come home and not be happy 1887 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: to see each other. And that's important because you know, 1888 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 1: God has blessed y'all with a clear understanding that why 1889 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,840 Speaker 1: I produce a sad day with a happy day is better? Okay? 1890 01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,840 Speaker 1: And so now now the pidazzle one, that pidazzle trim 1891 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 1: that you put up on, what is that trim made 1892 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,760 Speaker 1: of or what is what is creating that pidazzle? No? Yeah, 1893 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,360 Speaker 1: so it's called when you go on our website, you 1894 01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,920 Speaker 1: can add this to any shield. It's blinged around the shield. Um, 1895 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,439 Speaker 1: it's really what it is from. He said, he's from Detroit. 1896 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 1: Where are you from? I'm from Los Angeles. So they 1897 01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:49,160 Speaker 1: called me Hollywood. So you see that's Hollywood together. I 1898 01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,320 Speaker 1: got the Motor City. I got Hollywood. No, no, no, no, 1899 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 1: no see see he no, I've been in Detroit many times. 1900 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:56,600 Speaker 1: Me and Steve Barber used to go up there and 1901 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 1: do comedy shows and all that stuff up at the Fox. Then, 1902 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,439 Speaker 1: so I know about dressing. So when you start talking 1903 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 1: about Detroit, I know exactly what you're talking about. I 1904 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 1: lived in l A for fifteen years, so I knew 1905 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about, Blake. So I got a 1906 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,519 Speaker 1: strong mix of both of your conversation. Now, when we 1907 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 1: started introducing the brand, okay, of course, like you said, 1908 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,360 Speaker 1: the NBA thought this wasn't a good idea. How did 1909 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,080 Speaker 1: you start introducing it on social media? Did you shoot videos? 1910 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 1: How did you guys start introducing the brand? Yeah, I'll 1911 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 1: take that. I actually work at Facebook and Instagram, the 1912 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,720 Speaker 1: number one social media company, and what we see in 1913 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 1: particular COVID nineteen talk about the pivot, So we give 1914 01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 1: it it to purely social media e commerce UM, and 1915 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,560 Speaker 1: we utilize our social media platform. We have amazing photographer 1916 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,479 Speaker 1: and designers where we took some shots of people in 1917 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:56,080 Speaker 1: the shield UM and we created organically the following on 1918 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,559 Speaker 1: Instagram what we also did. I'm also getting my NBA, 1919 01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,320 Speaker 1: you see, lay I wanted to shout that out, so 1920 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 1: he's not the only NBA in the house, UM, And 1921 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,479 Speaker 1: what we did was we bypass all the traditional ways 1922 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 1: and go to market, right, so you have your market 1923 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 1: analysis that takes years, UM, and we said, why don't 1924 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 1: we try the social media out and so we had 1925 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 1: the direct to consumer interaction with our customers that let 1926 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,320 Speaker 1: us know that we were onto something. UM and Rush. 1927 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:29,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to also mention you talked about being trademark. 1928 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,160 Speaker 1: So one of the early signs that this was going 1929 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,640 Speaker 1: to be successful. When we were in the process of 1930 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 1: getting trademark, there were over ten thousand applications from Mask 1931 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 1: and Shields. But when you talked about other people making money, 1932 01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, many people saw this as an opportunity and 1933 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:51,519 Speaker 1: many people that don't look like us. And I agree, 1934 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 1: and I go to you know, that's what I'm happy 1935 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,760 Speaker 1: about it because I have some friends, you know, they've 1936 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 1: been very successful with masks okay, and I've helped them 1937 01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:02,760 Speaker 1: in drop the information in my newsletter and dropped it 1938 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 1: on my social media. Because that's that's why I created 1939 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,519 Speaker 1: money making conversations. And so when I when I look 1940 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:12,400 Speaker 1: at African American's clearly understanding the pivot, clearly understanding that, 1941 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,880 Speaker 1: and this is this is why I'm excited about it. 1942 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,960 Speaker 1: And that's just because of the fact that there's a 1943 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,040 Speaker 1: vaccine coming out and black people don't want to take it. 1944 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,679 Speaker 1: They don't trust the system, you know what I'm saying, 1945 01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 1: And so I think it's time that in order force 1946 01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:29,400 Speaker 1: to create trust, we gotta move you guys face to 1947 01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 1: the front of the line. You know what I'm saying 1948 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,200 Speaker 1: is that's more than just me taking a photo with 1949 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,880 Speaker 1: myself on it. I want to take a photo with 1950 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,200 Speaker 1: YouTube to post on social media talking about as a 1951 01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 1: black couple that have invented you know, these shields and 1952 01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,800 Speaker 1: you can buy from them online. So that's way more 1953 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 1: important than anything because that because that's gonna encourage black participation. 1954 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,600 Speaker 1: Blacks and say, I supported blacks may even take the 1955 01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,479 Speaker 1: vaccine because we understand that we don't want to begin pigs. 1956 01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,000 Speaker 1: But you know, also we want to be able to 1957 01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,840 Speaker 1: participate in the support system of profitability. And that's what 1958 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,679 Speaker 1: you guys are doing with the shield. Look, it's a health, 1959 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:16,840 Speaker 1: it's your health. It's for safety. COVID nineteen. Safety largely 1960 01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,000 Speaker 1: to create social distance. To me, it creates a various 1961 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,840 Speaker 1: social experience to me. I think that in the end 1962 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,599 Speaker 1: that's gonna be honest. You can still eat, you can 1963 01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,760 Speaker 1: still you can still do uh a straw, you can 1964 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 1: do a lot of things where this shield here. And 1965 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:35,839 Speaker 1: that's what your kid. So all that was taken in consideration, Earnest, 1966 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:40,400 Speaker 1: when you really started thinking about this whole process. Oh yeah, absolutely. 1967 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:43,880 Speaker 1: We we thought about, like you said, the social experience 1968 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,240 Speaker 1: and that, like you said, we're gonna be going through 1969 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 1: COVID in and out for the next couple of years. Yes, 1970 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 1: so we we recognize that. And our goal as entrepreneurs 1971 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,320 Speaker 1: was to embrace it, not to act as if it 1972 01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,439 Speaker 1: didn't exist, or to go into shale of fear. And 1973 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,040 Speaker 1: and that's and and I'm gonna be honest, My wife 1974 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,639 Speaker 1: and I we we did go to an initial phase 1975 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,439 Speaker 1: of fear. And I want the audience to know that 1976 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 1: fear is okay in the beginning. But you got a 1977 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 1: short time. I I have a window of fear, and 1978 01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,559 Speaker 1: that's probably two weeks to figure out how scared I'm 1979 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,519 Speaker 1: gonna be. And after that, I gotta come up. I 1980 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,800 Speaker 1: gotta come out of there with some with a plan, 1981 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,960 Speaker 1: you know. And my wife developed and Garrett Webster from 1982 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 1: South Africa, the four Epps. You wanta tell them about 1983 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 1: the four elms. Yeah, so we talked about the silent 1984 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,599 Speaker 1: fear where Ernest was talking about for the other four 1985 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,640 Speaker 1: fps that we talked about is focused focus. Once you 1986 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,479 Speaker 1: get out of fear, focus on how do you lean 1987 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,800 Speaker 1: in and answer the call and where you're in right, 1988 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,920 Speaker 1: how do you lean into and meet the moment where 1989 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:50,120 Speaker 1: it is. And then the faith, the faith whatever anybody practices, 1990 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,240 Speaker 1: there's some faith that you have to know that you're 1991 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna get through this. There's some faith you know that 1992 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,640 Speaker 1: you will have the answers um and that you can 1993 01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:02,920 Speaker 1: prosper We have a win in per mentality of prosperity 1994 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:06,200 Speaker 1: and abundance, and so we were speaking out we were 1995 01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 1: a money magnet where an opportunity magnet. A lot of 1996 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 1: people were like f We did not speak, never sat 1997 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,240 Speaker 1: because we knew that twenty was gonna be prosperous for 1998 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 1: us UM. And then we talked about family. So we're 1999 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:24,200 Speaker 1: family owned business. We knew that we had to stick 2000 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,120 Speaker 1: together during this tumultuous time and why not use this 2001 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: opportunity to build something beautiful together and the last piece 2002 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,840 Speaker 1: of future, what's our future outlook of this? So to 2003 01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,360 Speaker 1: be quite honest with you. We've only been in business 2004 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,160 Speaker 1: with small shops for four months and we've seen the 2005 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,160 Speaker 1: uber growth and so when you talk about the future 2006 01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:47,200 Speaker 1: of it, we started to attract like minded individuals and 2007 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:51,800 Speaker 1: do partnerships. So for partnering with Sydney Jackson, who has 2008 01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 1: a pageant beauty line, we're also partnering us. She's Miss 2009 01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,800 Speaker 1: teen DC USA, Sydney Jackson, we are past Computing Life. 2010 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:06,760 Speaker 1: We're also partnering with Samawives from Atlanta Housewives. He's gonna 2011 01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:11,360 Speaker 1: come out with a mask and shield combination, which is exciting. 2012 01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:15,479 Speaker 1: And then in Instagram and fluencer Toy Hardy, who's also 2013 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,960 Speaker 1: coming out with a shield and mask. So we were 2014 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 1: in the beginning. We saw this opportunity and there are 2015 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are now understanding that we're 2016 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna be in this for some time. Well, that's why 2017 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,679 Speaker 1: I wanted to help promote YouTube. You know what I'm saying, 2018 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,479 Speaker 1: You know, I because I can easily put that shield 2019 01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,479 Speaker 1: over my face money making conversation and I want that, 2020 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But also like last week, a 2021 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I had the a couple of 2022 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 1: HBCU grad They created a clowns clause and uh and 2023 01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,160 Speaker 1: I posted the picture of them too, and their two 2024 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 1: children blew up. You know they created clowns clause. And 2025 01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,599 Speaker 1: so I know the value of support. Where African Americans 2026 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:57,000 Speaker 1: know that they are creating this product that they could 2027 01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 1: support it is not somebody modeling the prob and that's 2028 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,479 Speaker 1: what I would be. I'll be modeling the product that 2029 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,400 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know where it was who created it. And 2030 01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,639 Speaker 1: so I want you guys to take a real nice 2031 01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 1: photo and probably already got it. I was just trying 2032 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:21,920 Speaker 1: to be professial. I just try to be professive, you know, right, 2033 01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,559 Speaker 1: you know, get it to Samantha. And so let's let's 2034 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,840 Speaker 1: get it up. Let's listen, let's let's build y'all brand 2035 01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,800 Speaker 1: Let's build his branding. And and my I've created money 2036 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,760 Speaker 1: making conversations. It ain't about me making money. It's about 2037 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,960 Speaker 1: be sharing your stories, about giving your platform that's free 2038 01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,280 Speaker 1: that I've been blessed with to be able to have 2039 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,920 Speaker 1: interviews you guys been trusted me to tell your story, 2040 01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,800 Speaker 1: to share your story to my fan base. And in 2041 01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:50,000 Speaker 1: the end, the titling my show is money making conversation. 2042 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:51,760 Speaker 1: So if you come on my show and make a 2043 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,120 Speaker 1: little money. Then guess where the conversation is real good 2044 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,240 Speaker 1: and that's what we like. We love the partnership well 2045 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,839 Speaker 1: just like this, not even a partnership, but their partnership 2046 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 1: is you came on the show, You've done your job. 2047 01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 1: Our relationship is about me just showing you some tricks 2048 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,880 Speaker 1: and marketing and branding using the tentacles did I put 2049 01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 1: out there and I've created you know also, but I 2050 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,200 Speaker 1: want to market you too, okay, on my on my 2051 01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,880 Speaker 1: platform with a link to click to buy your problem. 2052 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 1: And that's what I want to do. I do it 2053 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,800 Speaker 1: on my Facebook page. I gotta do the eight hundred 2054 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,960 Speaker 1: thousand followers on my Facebook page. I want to put 2055 01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,439 Speaker 1: you guys on Monday, on a Monday post before Christmas. 2056 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 1: So we want to turn this around real quick. Okay, 2057 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:38,560 Speaker 1: you know my man uhdel, he's my program director. Samantha 2058 01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 1: is my uh excuse me, is my executive producer money 2059 01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,599 Speaker 1: making conversations. So we're gonna get this together. But more importantly, 2060 01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,599 Speaker 1: it's not so much what you do outside your brand, 2061 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 1: because again, Earnest, you explain, Look your entrepreneurs, Okay, you're 2062 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,000 Speaker 1: not eight to five, Your dreamers with a goal and 2063 01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,519 Speaker 1: the purpose. And I just noticed, you know, underneath that 2064 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,760 Speaker 1: here you got a little cold turn that going there. 2065 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,160 Speaker 1: I just noticed he gotta turtle boy. I'm so mad 2066 01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:08,479 Speaker 1: at you. You know, I'm to take this going brand 2067 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,600 Speaker 1: of term Necker is that man. I'll be saying, this 2068 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:13,560 Speaker 1: is Hugo boss man, this is this is one of 2069 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,479 Speaker 1: my go to man, Hugo Boss kind of guy. Man. 2070 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,680 Speaker 1: I just didn't put the jacket. I didn't want to 2071 01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,639 Speaker 1: what we do, but I got the Hugo Boys jacket. 2072 01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,080 Speaker 1: And on top of this, you know it's right here 2073 01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,240 Speaker 1: because you know I love turtlenext man. I love that's 2074 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,800 Speaker 1: one of my favorites because because the mask. See that's 2075 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,240 Speaker 1: what he has to mask, so I can look through 2076 01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:35,880 Speaker 1: the man, I can look at the man that does 2077 01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:44,040 Speaker 1: he have a turn nick? Yeah, you know that's the 2078 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:48,240 Speaker 1: cool thing. But he modeling. He just certain I didn't 2079 01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,200 Speaker 1: tell that to the game man. I'll take showtime like 2080 01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 1: right now, because he just showed me he could flip 2081 01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 1: the face up to a lot of people do that. 2082 01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,880 Speaker 1: They have to take the entire shield off their faith 2083 01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,720 Speaker 1: and lift this up right here. See that's all we 2084 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 1: we we you know we we can set them up 2085 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 1: there for a minute, have a conversation or sip or 2086 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,760 Speaker 1: have a little food and everything would be great. And 2087 01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,599 Speaker 1: then emergency dropping back down. Somebody come by coffee looking crazy. Yeah, 2088 01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 1: back down with that shield. Back up, baby, get back. Absolutely, 2089 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 1: So tell everybody to get barber. You know they can 2090 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,200 Speaker 1: reach you guys through social through your website. So we 2091 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 1: got this. And again, like I said, we're gonna get 2092 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,479 Speaker 1: everything else time. Don't to my social media and let 2093 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,360 Speaker 1: the let your blackness shine on my social media. Okay, 2094 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate that our I G is Smiles, So s 2095 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,640 Speaker 1: M I E L S shield S h I E 2096 01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,439 Speaker 1: L d um that's O I G. And then our 2097 01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 1: website is Smiles shield dot com. Where you go in, 2098 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,599 Speaker 1: you customize, you be dazzle. We have some pre made 2099 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,880 Speaker 1: um easy fast shipping. Customers are super happy. Well I'm happy, 2100 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, the happiness your perfect couple for what your 2101 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 1: brand is selling. And uh, I'm just I'm just fortunate 2102 01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,639 Speaker 1: that I was at the end of the day, y'all 2103 01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:11,120 Speaker 1: put smile on my face. Yeah, we love that. We 2104 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,400 Speaker 1: We got a gift box coming for you to rush. 2105 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,679 Speaker 1: Make sure you know I'm making you a special rush 2106 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:21,040 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations gift box. Okay, cool, well, I appreciate that. 2107 01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that making that happen. And uh again, thank 2108 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,400 Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversations and again get 2109 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 1: those photos before Christmas. You can go to my Facebook 2110 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,559 Speaker 1: page like Actshaw mcdal like I got like seven hundred 2111 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,639 Speaker 1: and a thousand followers or something like that. Every Monday 2112 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:41,120 Speaker 1: I put in the PM, I put a entrepreneur or 2113 01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 1: somebody on my show, and that just there's a motivational 2114 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,439 Speaker 1: quote tied to them. Okay, and I want to do 2115 01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,200 Speaker 1: the same for you too, and your smile shields and 2116 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,720 Speaker 1: brand your entrepreneur skills that uh you know, this is 2117 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,920 Speaker 1: a black lives matter from an entrepreneurial standpoint, and we're 2118 01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. 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