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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Help. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome to a radio only edition of One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: here on a Thursday. We are radio only because our

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Speaker 1: studio is being utilized for other purposes today, as we're

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Speaker 1: all too happy to share. Tell them why.

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Speaker 2: It's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got rookies coming through for Rookie Mini camp

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Speaker 1: and later this afternoon, while we would still be on

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Speaker 1: the air, they have to take their glamour shots.

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Speaker 2: Shall we say, all the pictures you see on the

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Speaker 2: keyon Coleman. He's standing there crossing his arms and doing.

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Speaker 1: The hype video poses on the storeboard for games.

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Speaker 2: They're doing that today in our studio, so yeah.

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Speaker 1: They gotta change. They need our green screen basically to

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Speaker 1: shoot all that jazz. So we're just sitting in our

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Speaker 1: bullpen here in our office doing a radio only edition

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Speaker 1: of the show here today, and uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got some stuff going on. I'm pretty happy about my

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Speaker 1: Nicks being up two oh, although by no means do

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Speaker 1: I feel that series is over, but I was pretty

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Speaker 1: happy last night. But Kale Bridges has made the trade worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: They gave up a lot for Mkale Bridges and he

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Speaker 1: has summarily ended both games with outstanding defense.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, Brownie is a

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Speaker 2: massive Knicks fan, like Steven A. Smith kind of mass.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I'm that ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You set your wife and dog out of the room

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Speaker 2: in the final.

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Speaker 1: I sent them upstairs because my dog gets freaked out

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Speaker 1: when I get excited, So, yes, you are exactly. My

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Speaker 2: So the Knicks pull this game out last night, and uh,

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Speaker 2: now it's it's the point where the Knicks. Nobody thought

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Speaker 2: the Knicks gonna win this series, absolutely nobody, now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because of what they did in the regular season the Knick.

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Speaker 2: The Celtics just lopped the Knicks, lumped.

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Speaker 1: Them up times, just yeah, and by a wide margin

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Speaker 1: in almost every game.

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Speaker 2: It was ugly. Well, then they get in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I just think, okay, here we go. You know, Knicks,

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Speaker 2: maybe they'll steal a game here there. Well, they steal

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Speaker 2: game one, and they did the almost the exact same

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Speaker 2: they get the lead, they battled back, the Celtics take

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt. The Celtics took their foot off the gas. Start,

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Speaker 2: you know, stop concentrating missing shots, which is you know

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Speaker 2: to me, for those guys, it's all about concentration. It's

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Speaker 2: not like you know anything else. So they take their

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Speaker 2: foot off the gas. It shows Nick's climb back into it.

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Speaker 2: And they've got the one thing you have to say

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Speaker 2: about Jalen Brunson, that guy is money at the end

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Speaker 2: of games. He is when the chips are down. Give

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Speaker 2: him your cards. You know, that guy's good. So they

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Speaker 2: they win both Now they win both games. Now, Brownie,

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Speaker 2: I think you're sitting here like me. Now it's like, uh, now.

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Speaker 1: They got a chance. They do have a chance because

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Speaker 1: Celtics have to win for the next five and that's

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Speaker 1: if it goes seven games.

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Speaker 2: That's right, they that's they gotta have. You're giving them

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Speaker 2: a chance now, that's basically what you're doing. The Knicks

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Speaker 2: just got to win two out of the next five.

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Speaker 2: Celtics got to win four out of the next five. Uh,

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Which you know, I'm still not putting past

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Speaker 1: them there. Do You never underestimate the heart of a champion,

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Speaker 1: and they are the defending champs. So we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. But it certainly has made this a lot

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Speaker 1: more fun. And the atmosphere in Madison Square Garden on

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Speaker 2: Bonnews that, you know what. I'll say this, I kind

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Speaker 2: of wish I was going. That's kind of I'm not

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Speaker 2: I watch it on my couch and i'm you know,

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Speaker 2: and I'm but man, man, I've been to the garden.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel it, you yes, through the television, you.

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Speaker 2: Can it is that the crowd show everybody, You're gonna

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Speaker 2: you're gonna recognize every third or fourth person in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna recognize.

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Speaker 1: Well, the court sided, they're all gonna be there, Ben Stiller,

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Speaker 2: John McEnroe, Sting, Yes, Spike, the whole group.

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Speaker 1: Because Sting was there too, it was like, oh, look

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Speaker 2: They're all gonna be there. That that it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And all the old knicks, you know, start sewing.

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Speaker 2: Carmelo, Bernard King not Carmelo? Is it Carmelo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, so all those guys will make the trip.

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Speaker 1: In Stefan Marbury jet. It's gonna be good. Now. You

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Speaker 2: That's going on Saturday at like two or noon something

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Speaker 2: like that. I didn't see the time. Yeah, Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: But looking forward to Oh it's Saturday. It's not tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: O yeah, Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Oh they get two days off, okay, and uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just yeah, that's one that may be the

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Speaker 2: game I want to see. I wish I could see.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's some good series going on right now.

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Speaker 1: I got you know, the NBA has got some pretty

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Speaker 2: So does hockey.

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Speaker 1: I mean regular season NBA I can you can take

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Speaker 1: I usually gravitate to the college hoops more after football

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Speaker 1: season's over, right, But these NBA playoff series both tight.

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Speaker 2: Both the sports, the NHL and the NBA have taken

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Speaker 2: it up a notch these playoffs. It's been fun. Oh,

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Got a lot of great moments,

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Speaker 2: a lot of great moments. Brunson's for the Knicks has

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Speaker 2: provided some of them.

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Speaker 2: The other series as well. Last night, though the Denver

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Speaker 2: Nuggets who got absolutely they got beaten like a tent

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, what you say. It was in the second

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Speaker 2: At one point in the second quarter, the OKC Thunder

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Speaker 2: had scored like sixty five, sixty seven points in the

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Speaker 2: They almost had them doubled when they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they scored eighty seven points in the first half?

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Speaker 2: Did the Thunder eighty seven points? And you know, the

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Speaker 2: just absolutely demoralized the Nuggets. That game was over early, early,

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't really the nail bier that the Knicks

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Speaker 1: It's entertaining. I'll say that they're nip and tuck because

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Speaker 1: they don't run away from anybody. Other teams run away

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Speaker 2: You don't even have to be a hoops lover, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good comp tian. Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And you get there's a lot of this too. Where

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Speaker 2: I used to I used to really bug me the

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Speaker 2: video replayduff. They didn't overdo it last night, but they

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Speaker 2: get in these tight games, it matters. I don't have

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Speaker 2: a problem with that, but they do it quick another time.

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Speaker 2: Most of them are last night, and I don't. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't the knixt game. Maybe it was where yes it was.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it was the Nuggets. And the guy got

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Speaker 2: other guys gave me an neil extra extra. They reviewed it,

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Speaker 2: gave it technical, give a technical foul, and there was

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Speaker 2: no And then you know, Brownie, you and I grew

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Speaker 2: I mean, I was an adult in the nineties. You know,

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Speaker 2: nineties NBA basketball is fights.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, last night in college.

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Speaker 2: You get a little extra extra shove under the basket.

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Speaker 2: They call the foul, they review it, give it technical.

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Speaker 2: Nobody needs to take a swing, you know, nobody needs

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Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, it's better. I mean, I not that

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Speaker 2: I you know, I had any problem with guys. Let's

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Speaker 2: it's it's not basketball. So I thought last night that

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Speaker 2: more often about this. The inst replay and replay review

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Speaker 2: that replay review in the NBA really gets in the way,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the reviews for the NBA even

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Speaker 2: And I like it that the guy comes out and

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Speaker 2: two feet oh. The NBA guys, yeah, yeah, they're like okay, they're.

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Speaker 1: Right at the scorer's table there, and.

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Speaker 2: That makes some sense to me. I like that when

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Speaker 2: it does take a minute, if they explain it to

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Speaker 2: me and they say what all was going on? Like oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: I get it, now let's go, And then they do

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Speaker 2: they like tweek the whistle forgive the guy the ball

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Speaker 2: And I've liked also the NFL's penchant for having the

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Speaker 2: now it was such a good I think this is

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Speaker 2: for some reason, while you're doing the play by play

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Speaker 2: on the radio, you'll see the official just slide the ball.

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Speaker 1: Now they're gonna use hawkeye technology to move it if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm just gonna put this out there.

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Speaker 1: out there. The Bills are big on this, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it's it's their overriding criteria, but that DNA

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Speaker 1: they talk about, they put it as high a priority

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Speaker 1: as you know, and they know there's enough guys out

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Speaker 1: there they can pick and choose. Get a guy that's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna work hard and be a good teammate and he

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Speaker 2: produces like you look at Jordan Palmer, his resume and

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Speaker 2: all the things that he was up against and in

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Speaker 2: the midst of in San Diego or LA for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Very good receiver, good quarterback, but he was third in

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Speaker 2: the pecking order. But he still put up numbers and

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Speaker 2: he's a great dude. Hey, you know what, let's give that,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's let's bring him in. We don't need

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Speaker 2: a guy who makes his top five listed quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: your guy's not on it. His guy's not on it.

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Speaker 2: You don't need a guy who won't show up to

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Speaker 2: practice because why because he only got six targets in

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Speaker 2: the game and not twelve. I'm you don't need that

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Speaker 2: and most of these and a guy like Mike Tollin

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Speaker 2: as well as anybody, you know what, give me a

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Speaker 2: guy with lesser talent, and the guys around him will

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Speaker 2: get better because they won't have to they won't have

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Speaker 2: to coddle their teammate, they won't have to be distracted

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Speaker 2: by his antics, by all those things that happened. That's

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I get Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on this, and you know he knows his

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Speaker 2: roster as well as anybody I think he's I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's afraid of losing pickings at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine ers. Speaking of wide receivers, forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers wide receiver DeMarcus Robinson facing a three game suspension

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Speaker 1: for violation of the NFL Substance Abuse Policy. This according

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Speaker 1: to a report from Matt Majoko from NBC Sports. I'm

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Speaker 1: still wondering, Steve, when's the Rashi Rice suspension coming down? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he obviously he missed the second half of the

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Speaker 1: season with a knee injury last season, but that's got

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Speaker 1: to come around too, I would think stemming from his

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Speaker 1: drag race seeing on I ten in Texas that caused

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Speaker 1: a car accident. Fortunately nobody got killed, but people were

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Speaker 1: injured and hospitalized as he and another car that he

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Speaker 1: owned were both driving at a high rate of.

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Speaker 2: Speed and there was a video.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so so when is that happening?

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Speaker 2: It's going well, that's got to because that I think

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Speaker 2: what Rashid Rice is doing because he plays for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to be cynical, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: have a lot of experience with this kind of event

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Speaker 2: with their players. They don't mind dealing with this kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff, and they're probably pushing this as far down

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Speaker 2: the road as they can possibly push it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: They it may not. They may have they might be

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Speaker 2: delaying the trial, the public hearings that. I'm sure they've

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Speaker 2: got a team of lawyers working over or Rashid Rice

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Speaker 2: has got a team of lawyers working overtime making sure

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Speaker 2: this takes forever, and maybe the other side will get

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Speaker 2: tired of it, just wait them out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's over a year ago. It was a

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Speaker 1: six car crash in March of twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: obviously didn't and sometimes it takes a full year before

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Speaker 1: the suspension hits. But I'm sorry, there's got to be

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Speaker 1: something there come twenty twenty five season. Absolutely, and maybe

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Speaker 1: we won't know until about August. Sometimes those are handed

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Speaker 1: down there. I remember when Marcel Darius got his one

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Speaker 1: game suspension for getting caught with synthetic marijuana and a

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Speaker 1: traffic stop. So maybe it happens in August when those

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Speaker 1: typically are handed down, Right, We'll have to wait.

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Speaker 2: And see maybe on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then finally the Dolphins released long snapper Blake Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: who we know is reed Ferguson's younger brother, Blake, appeared

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Speaker 1: in only five games last season as he landed on

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Speaker 1: the non football illness list. It was never made public

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Speaker 1: what his illness was, so hopefully he's okay to the

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Speaker 1: point where he can resume his NFL career, because you

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Speaker 1: don't like to see you don't like to see that. Like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we know injuries are a part of the game, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes injuries can be severe enough to cost you your

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Speaker 1: playing career, but you don't want to see a non

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Speaker 1: football illness lead to that. So we wish the best

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Speaker 1: of Blake Ferguson and hope he can get back on

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Speaker 1: an NFL roster sooner rather than later. So that's around

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Speaker 1: the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, Official Healthcare system of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Topic of discussion for you today, which

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Speaker 1: position group faces the most difficult roster decisions for the Bills?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe, as we already know, this is a

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Speaker 1: hard roster to make, and I think many people out

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Speaker 1: there are of the opinion that there are going to

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Speaker 1: be players on this roster right now that won't make

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Speaker 1: the fifty three that could absolutely be on a roster

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Speaker 1: somewhere else in the NFL. So, at what position group

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Speaker 1: do you see the most difficult roster decisions when it

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Speaker 1: comes time in August to reduce this thing down to

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Speaker 1: fifty three eight oh three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. Those are the

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Speaker 1: numbers to join us, and we do have open lines

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Speaker 1: for you at this moment, wide open for your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: For the next half hour, second hour of the show.

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Speaker 1: In our sweep around the AFC East, we're gonna check

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Speaker 1: in on the New York Jets and see what their

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Speaker 1: offseason has looked like, both in free agency and with

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Speaker 1: their most recent draft class. We did the Patriots yesterday,

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Speaker 1: have the Jets today, and we'll have Eric Allen joining

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Speaker 1: us from New York Jets dot Com to help us

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Speaker 1: out with that. But that's where it stands. You got

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Speaker 1: a position group that you think is gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: to whittle down come roster cut down time, you let

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Speaker 1: us know what that is. Aight, oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty the

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Speaker 1: numbers to join us your phone calls. Next Here on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: Back here on one Bills Live first grouts thee Fast

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Speaker 3: Thursday edition and speaking you and checking out which position

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Speaker 3: group you think face is the most difficult roster decisions.

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Speaker 1: You let us know what position group you think that is.

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Speaker 1: Eight h three zero five fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty those are the numbers to

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Speaker 1: join us. Got open lines for you there, and I'll

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Speaker 1: just say you know right off the bat, Steve, even

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Speaker 1: with the two suspended players, which will make decisions easier.

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Speaker 1: Defensive line is going to be a little tricky there,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of how many you're keeping. You've got

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Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, I get it. But

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Speaker 1: you also don't want talent capable of playing on an

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Speaker 1: NFL roster going away for nothing. You want to turn

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Speaker 1: it into an asset that can get you a return

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Speaker 1: if possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the D line is obviously one of the big

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Speaker 2: position groups we are going to be talking about, and

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Speaker 2: I think corners another one. You've got a ton of

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Speaker 2: young players with a smattering like look at Trey White's

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Speaker 2: also in that room, right, how important is he gonna

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Speaker 2: be when push comes to shove? You got two draft picks,

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Speaker 2: plus and plus all the guys that are.

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Speaker 1: There, Benford, Ingram Jackson, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The guys that have been there. So I'm I think

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Speaker 2: that may be as just as high on the list

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Speaker 2: as as the defensive line. I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 2: you go down the list, it's just a ton of guys.

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Speaker 1: I even talking about Brandon Codrington too. Like right, last

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Speaker 1: year's seventh round pick was on the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: All these guys are listed also as DB's let alone

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Speaker 2: safeties and all that guys like Cam Lewis to Corey Couch,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Codrington, Trey White, Taron Johnson, Dame Jackson, Uh, JaMarcus Ingram,

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Hardy, da Kwan Hardy, Benford, Uh. Just a ton

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Speaker 2: of dudes. And that's that's not even with the draft class.

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Speaker 2: The draft class. Obviously you got to throw in Max Harriston,

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Speaker 2: h Hancock, you know, and Dorian Strong. So there's three more. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you don't and I know it's easy for us

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Speaker 2: to say the guy's seventh round draft pick. You know,

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Speaker 2: those draft picks are they don't just throw those away

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Speaker 2: on a guy they don't think can make the team

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Speaker 2: or they don't want to make the team, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I think it's really gonna be tough at the

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Speaker 2: corner spot. The d line is an obvious choice as well,

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Speaker 2: because you got three draft picks and you got some

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Speaker 2: guys that have served you well and you should trust,

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Speaker 2: even if they are a little long in the tooth

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Speaker 2: or whatever whatever. I don't think it's any surprise that

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Speaker 2: also we're talking about two position groups on the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: Of the ball, like wide receiver is going to be

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Speaker 1: kind of tricky two because you drafted one, and look,

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Speaker 1: you're not beholden to a seventh round draft choice, but

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Speaker 1: you drafted one. You signed three in free agency, including

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore this past Monday. And you also have some

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Speaker 1: holdovers who were fringe roster players last year who all

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Speaker 1: got called up a time or two from the practice

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Speaker 1: squad and Jalen Virgil kJ Hamler, Tyrrell Shavers. So you

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Speaker 1: add that in and now you're talking three, six, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten receivers, and I think most people can handicap that

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Speaker 1: and come up with a top five, which means you

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Speaker 1: essentially have five other guys potentially battling for one spot.

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Speaker 1: If you carry six receivers on your fifty three. That's

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Speaker 1: some of those decisions might be cut and dry. But

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Speaker 1: when you get down to maybe the last two or three, well,

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Speaker 1: and for the one spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we always talk about how many are you

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Speaker 2: gonna keep? Are you gonna keep five on the active

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Speaker 2: game day or six?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Same with the D line, you're gonna keep nine? Are

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Speaker 2: you gonna keep ten like you did last year on

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Speaker 2: the roster? And then and then go from you know,

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Speaker 2: go from there on game day? Offensive line? Do you

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Speaker 2: go heavy at offensive line because you're that good there?

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Speaker 1: Well, offensive tackle is just gonna be a problem. It's

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Speaker 1: a real pro You have a ridiculous number of players

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Speaker 1: that are capable of playing, and then you even have

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Speaker 1: some young players behind them that, with a little seasoning

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Speaker 1: could become the very same thing.

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Speaker 2: You got five guys who can play and the forget

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Speaker 2: the Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown, you take them off

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Speaker 2: the page. You got Alec Anderson, who plays a ton

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Speaker 2: in your offense, not even as an offensive lineman. Then

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Speaker 2: you got Tyland Grabil, who coming out of camp last

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Speaker 2: year was your third tackle overall, and then Vandermark uh

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Speaker 2: and uh Tyland Grable and yeah, vander Mark those two guys.

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Speaker 2: So you got five guys, five guys on the roster

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Speaker 2: without any of the new pics. Well, and didn't even

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Speaker 2: mention Van p Granger Van prink Grainger, who is well,

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Speaker 2: he's a center.

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Speaker 1: Guard, but yeah, he's your backup there. But it's But

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Speaker 1: then you have Travis Clayton, the international player who was

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Speaker 1: on ir all last year. He's healthy now and ready

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Speaker 1: to roll. Does he factor into the tackle mix too

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Speaker 1: or do they move him inside to guard? Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: And then you've got the draft choice Chase Lunt, who's

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Speaker 1: six's eight and is and Brandon Bean said, is gonna

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Speaker 1: start lining up a tackle and then if they want

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Speaker 1: to cross train him a little bit at guard, they

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Speaker 1: may do that, but he's gonna They're gonna put him

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Speaker 1: in his position of comfort and see what he can

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Speaker 1: do there. And you know, Richard Garage was a player

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Speaker 1: that was on the practice squad last year as a

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Speaker 1: reserve tackle as well, So he's a guy that can

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Speaker 1: probably line up at guard too. But you see what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there. And look, some of those players have

649
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Speaker 1: more cachet than others. We all know that. But tell

650
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Speaker 1: me where you're putting all these guys, like, where are

651
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: you putting them all?

652
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Speaker 2: He got fifty three names that you can keep around,

653
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: and then everybody else is up for grass because even

654
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: if you do keep them on your practice squad, offensive

655
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: linemen don't last on the practice squad. There's just not enough, guys.

656
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: I told you this story. It's been a while since

657
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned this, but I talked to a high level

658
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: executive years ago, not that many years ago, and we're

659
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: talking about not only the international Games, but also expansion.

660
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: And he goes, he goes, we're very expansion is not

661
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Speaker 2: on the menu for the NFL. He goes, and I said, well,

662
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: why not? Got these cities like you think about it,

663
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: like London and Rome and Paris and Berlin. You know,

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Speaker 2: you can buy Upcelona all the Yeah, all these European

665
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: cities that are crazy for it, he goes. He goes, Yeah,

666
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: but there's not enough. There's not enough players that are

667
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: good enough to keep the game playing at a high

668
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Speaker 2: level without water, and we don't have enough offensive line.

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Speaker 2: He basically, he says, we don't have enough offensive linemen

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00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: well to go around for thirty six teams. We don't

671
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: have we don't have one hundred and twenty offensive linemen

672
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: on the planet who can play at the level we

673
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: need him to play at, you know, we just can't

674
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Speaker 2: do it. So that's been one of the things that has,

675
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, kept the lid on expansion is the league's

676
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: disbelief that there's enough good players out there. You don't

677
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: want them playing backyard beer league football and just label

678
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: it NFL. They want the level to play to stay high,

679
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: and there's just not enough good guys. So when you

680
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: get a team like Buffalo who's.

681
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 4: Like neck deep with five guys who could virtually start

682
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: for half the league anyway, the fifth one, that's you

683
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: got to hang in there.

684
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: You got to hang on to those guys.

685
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Speaker 1: Right, which means if you can't hang on to all

686
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: of them, you better try to move one in a

687
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: trade to at least get something back to help your

688
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: roster in the future, you know, some draft choice or something.

689
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: Because all you gotta do is pick up the phone

690
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: and call it. For instance, you got the Bears and

691
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: pick a name out of that Seattle You call those gms, Hey, listen,

692
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Speaker 2: I got a guy who can tackle, who can play,

693
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Speaker 2: he can start for you. What about it? Then you know,

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Speaker 2: see what they offer yeah, and then you said, well

695
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: I got it, I got a three from Chicago. What

696
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Speaker 2: are you gonna give me?

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Speaker 1: That's you?

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00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can, and that you know how valuable would

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Speaker 2: have a third round pick been this year. You know

700
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Speaker 2: it looks pretty nice. Yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn it over to the tweet sheet, brought to

702
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Speaker 1: you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

703
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, which position group faces the most

704
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Speaker 1: difficult roster decisions, and Charlie on the tweets sheet says

705
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: corner and not just who makes the fifty three. Cam

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Speaker 1: Lewis may get pushed by Hancock, and the long term

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Speaker 1: succession plan for Tarren Johnson may be at play there

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Speaker 1: as well. Dane is on the bubble. I think with

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Speaker 1: the Dorian Strong pick. They may also change numbers with

710
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Speaker 1: hybrid folks like Hoyt and Hancock in case they feel

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Speaker 1: there's still light at safety and or linebacker. Yeah. I

712
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Speaker 1: think Hoyt is gonna be a chess piece. He's gonna

713
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Speaker 1: move around a good deal, I believe, and not really

714
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Speaker 1: be a singular position player. There'll be times where they're

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Speaker 1: going to probably have him rush off the edge. There

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Speaker 1: may be times they have him drop out and cover,

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Speaker 1: and there may be times where he's running around at

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Speaker 1: the second level, you know, in a hybrid subpackage of sorts.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I think he is going to have a

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Speaker 1: multifaceted role. Hancock, what we've already been told is going

721
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Speaker 1: to serve its safety and Nickel. So he's kind of

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Speaker 1: doing what cam Lewis already does. And we talked about

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Speaker 1: this layering Steve the other day at the receiver position.

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Speaker 1: With the acquisitions they've made, you know, Keon, Coleman and

725
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Speaker 1: Palmer are your outside people, more can play outside. But

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Speaker 1: also it does a lot of the same things that

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir can do. So in many ways, it seems

728
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Speaker 1: like they've layered themselves too deep with skill sets in

729
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Speaker 1: a lot of areas, and I think you can make

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Speaker 1: the argument that they've done that on defense as well.

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Speaker 1: Hancock doubles what cam Lewis does. Taron, he's a Taron

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Speaker 1: Johnson candidate. And then even to the undrafteds that we're

733
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Speaker 1: expecting to come in. One of the reported undrafted is

734
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Speaker 1: it's Keanta Jenkins, a linebacker from Virginia Tech. But he

735
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Speaker 1: only goes about two hundred and fifteen pounds. He's got

736
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Speaker 1: hybrid safety written all over him. So is that something

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Speaker 1: that Taylor Rapp and Cole Bishop, you know? And then

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Speaker 1: this Keyanta Jenkins has he become part of the equation.

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Speaker 1: Does he challenge for any of those sub package three

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Speaker 1: safety big Nickel rolls. I don't know. We'll have to see,

741
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Speaker 1: but they seem to be layering the roster too deep.

742
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Speaker 2: I think that's a philosophical thing that they do, and

743
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense. I mean, think about it.

744
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: You need to economize and maximize, economize your talent and

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00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: maximize what they can do. So if you get a

746
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Speaker 2: guy like Jordan Hancock who can play special teams, he

747
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: can play outside corner, you can play earth safety, he

748
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: can play safety and inside corner, so he can do

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Speaker 2: three things for you and do them at a high level.

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Speaker 2: You can't. You can't let that guy get away. He's

751
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Speaker 2: on the roster and he's gonna be there for a

752
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: long He's gonna be here for five years. Get a

753
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Speaker 2: second contract because he can play slot corner, he can

754
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Speaker 2: play safety, and he can cover kicks. I mean, you can't.

755
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Speaker 2: You gotta have guys like that on your roster. And

756
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: the more guys you have like that on your roster,

757
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: the more injuries and suspensions and all that you can

758
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Speaker 2: stand and still play at a high level, you still

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Speaker 2: win games.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention he's cheap labor because he's on a

761
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Speaker 1: rookie contract as a fifth round draft choice, to add

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Speaker 1: that in as another part of the equation as well.

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Speaker 1: Got to take a break here, but still taking your

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Speaker 1: phone calls at eight h three zero five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or your comments

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet? Which position group faces the most

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Speaker 1: difficult roster decisions? You tell us next year on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by col Out of Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: steam casture with you and topic of discussion for you today,

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Speaker 1: which position group do you think faces the most difficult

772
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Speaker 1: roster decisions come August and we're kind of jumping down

773
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Speaker 1: the line here a little bit. We want to see

774
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Speaker 1: what they look like on the field, obviously, but man

775
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: oh man, I mean we were talking about it yesterday.

776
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Speaker 1: What's your finishing touch to put on the roster? People

777
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: didn't have much that much to add, which quarterback, which

778
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of begs which kind of begs the question, how

779
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: are you gonna be able to keep all the guys

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00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you'd like to keep, because that seems like a feudal pursuit. No,

781
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: and you can only keep fifty three.

782
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Speaker 2: Knowing that too, but we also know that when you

783
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Speaker 2: get into training camp and some guys are gonna blossom

784
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: and some guys are gonna wilt, So you're not gonna

785
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: have the roster you think you do. There's gonna Back

786
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: in the old days, there was always every training camp,

787
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: there was always the guy, the veteran that everybody loves,

788
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: some surprise cut because of the youth that comes in

789
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: and the energy they bring to it. And they're better

790
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: than you think they're gonna be. And other guys aren't

791
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Speaker 2: as good. They don't bounce back like you thought they would.

792
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: They they didn't train hard enough, they didn't they just

793
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 2: showed up to camp not ready, or they just don't

794
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Speaker 2: have anymore. We call it what you will. That's what

795
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to sit and watch now in training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think this roster from what we saw yesterday in

797
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 2: our show Brownie. Yeah, let's let's go to training camp.

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Speaker 1: With these guys, right, you touched on quarterback there, What

799
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Speaker 1: do we what do we think about the roster decisions there?

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Speaker 1: Behind Josh because you have four on the roster. Bouschelle

801
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: is probably your practice squad quarterback. I don't see him challenging.

802
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: So now you're down to Trubisky and White.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said yesterday, if they're both here and

804
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: they have a role, they're gonna play behind Josh for

805
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: the team's sake. You you do what's best for the

806
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: team economically. If Trubisky's making too big a nut, you

807
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: put him on the practice squad and you bring Tom

808
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: White Mike White up.

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00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making almost twice as much money as White.

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Speaker 2: So you put Trubisky on the practice squad, save the

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Speaker 2: three point two million, and you put Mike White on

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Speaker 2: the active roster. Because Trubisky is still in the room,

813
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: he's still practicing, he's still helping Josh get ready. But

814
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Speaker 2: you saved the money. Now, if that's going to cause

815
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Speaker 2: a problem, Mitch, Trubisky's free to be unemployed that kind

816
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah, and maybe there is some interest or

817
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: you and if Josh wants the guy around, well then

818
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: you can talk about Okay, he can be the guy

819
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: that's up on game day and he can make his

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Speaker 2: three point two, and Mike White will be the practice

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Speaker 2: squad guy making you know, a couple of hundred grand.

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Speaker 1: Well he's not making peanuts. I think he's over a million.

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Speaker 2: Well he won't be making that on the practice squad though. No. No,

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Speaker 2: So that's that's the issue. So I think you handle

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00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: that and let well, let's just be honest. Here's how

826
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Speaker 2: the conversation goes, Josh, how do you want it to be?

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Speaker 2: And he said, well, I need this guy and this

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Speaker 2: guy in the room. They go, okay, there's your quarterback room, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: I guess, Josh. I mean I was kind of cutting

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Speaker 1: it this way yesterday because I think that White at

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Speaker 1: this point is probably the more talented player. Trubisky is

833
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: probably more valuable in the quarterback room to help Josh

834
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Speaker 1: get ready for a game and an opponent. How each

835
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: of them does as a scout team quarterback, I'm not

836
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: going to pretend to know, because we're not privity to

837
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: that portion of practice. That to me is the decision.

838
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: What do you value more for the sake of the team.

839
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Speaker 1: What is better for the team the guy that might

840
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: have to step on the field for a game or

841
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: two and perform, or the guy that gets the guy

842
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: that plays almost all the games ready to perform. That's

843
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: not an easy answer. I don't think well.

844
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Speaker 2: I think most teams go with get your guy ready. Yeah,

845
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: and you coach your guy to stay there, to stay

846
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: in the game. You coach him to get down, don't

847
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: take the hit, don't dive in. The only time you're

848
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: going to run it is on a quarterback. Sneak all

849
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: of that stuff, you know, don't we need you, don't

850
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: risk yourself. You got to take advantage of the rules

851
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: that are there to protect you. And then you have

852
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: the other guys in the room help him. And that's

853
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: that's how it needs to be, because, if let's face it,

854
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: the stupidest criticism of a head coach these days is well,

855
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: he can't win it with it. You know, he can't

856
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: win it now that he doesn't have a quarterback. Yeah,

857
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: that's exactly right, That is right. He can't win You

858
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: name like Mike Tomlin. You hear people going, well, he

859
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: did ever since Roethlisberger retired. They can't get to the

860
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They are Yeah, that's the way it works.

861
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: That's what where would Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, and Cincinnati

862
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: b without those four one of those four guys, where

863
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: would they be? The Bills would still have not made

864
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So that's just the way it is. So

865
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: if that guy goes down, you know, you may, you

866
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: may make a go of it, but man, oh man,

867
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: it's like think about the Eagle. When they went Nick

868
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: Foles was again, but he the only reason Nick Foles

869
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: was there was because he was great for Carson Wentz.

870
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: And when Foles left after he got that had won

871
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, they took off or yeah, Wentz, wins

872
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: went went downhill.

873
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: They got rid of him.

874
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 2: So that backup quarterback of Foles and all those guys

875
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: and all these guys that are in there, like Don

876
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Struck and all these guys with Dan Marino had his guy,

877
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Roger Staubach had his guy. You know, Elway had Kobiak,

878
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly had Frank you know, all these really good

879
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks had a guy. You know, you can remember those

880
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: guys that are like, yeah he was, they were together

881
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: all the time. I I'll never forget I was watching

882
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 2: Dan Marino early in his career. There was a time out,

883
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: and this was in the Miami Dolphins. He came over

884
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: to the sideline and Don this, Don Shula is standing

885
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: there and Don Struck and Marino. Don Shula was standing

886
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: three feet away with his arms crossed, mouth closed, listening,

887
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: and Don Strock and Dan Marino were standing face to

888
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: face and they're pointing to the field. Just the two

889
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: of them are talking. It's nobody else, not the offensive coordinator,

890
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: not the all time winning as head coach in NFL history. No,

891
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: it was Marino and his boy talking. That's how it works.

892
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: That's how it works. So it's important. And if the

893
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: guy can play, to me, it's just a bonus. Who cares.

894
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't even want to see that. I don't even

895
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: want to know if the guy can play, you know,

896
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: but if he gets our guy, So if he comes

897
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: off and and it's and it's cut the deck time

898
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: he wants to look into a guy's face, say hey,

899
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: here's what I'm seeing. We remember what we talked about. Yeah,

900
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: I remember that. Go with this and d da da

901
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: da da. He goes, yeah, all right, go That's why

902
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: you get a guy like Doug Peterson in that Super

903
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: Bowl and Nick Foles comes over and Doug Peterson's a quarterback.

904
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Foles goes, hey, you want Philly Philly. Peterson hesitates for

905
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: and goes, yeah, let's do that. Philly Philly go and

906
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: there and history's made. You need a guy that knows

907
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: what he's doing and a head coach who's ahead, who's

908
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback. It's a little bit, you know, it's a

909
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: little help in that moment. Yeah, doesn't always work that way.

910
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we

911
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: come back, our number two is gonna begin with a

912
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: look around the AFC East. The Jets are up now.

913
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at the offseason they have

914
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: had thus far, both in free agency and in the draft.

915
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: And we're gonna do that with Jets VP of News

916
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Strategy from New York Jets dot Com, Eric Allen. He's

917
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna be joining us when we return. Here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health. It's Buffalo

919
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio.

920
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, here we are our number two on a Thursday.

922
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you radio only version of

923
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: the show today, and um gonna spin around the AFC East.

924
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: We began the journey yesterday in New England. We go

925
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: south now to Jets Country and joining us to help

926
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: us take an overarching look at the off season that

927
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: the Jets have put together as New York Jets Vice

928
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: president of News Strategy from New York Jets Dot commentary

929
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: Allen joining us on the show, and yeah, I gotta say,

930
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: like you know, everybody's offseason is busy. We see roster

931
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: turnover of about twenty five to thirty percent, but there

932
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: was a different feel to the turnover here because of

933
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: the new head coach in the form of Aaron Glenn,

934
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: and he made no bones about bringing the right kind

935
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: of people into the building. So why don't we start

936
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: there just with the type of person in the form

937
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: of players that he was looking to add to this

938
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: Jets roster.

939
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 5: Hey, Brownie and Steve. Great to be with you guys again.

940
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 5: I would say that I would go back to the

941
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 5: league meetings in Palm Beach in late March when Aaron

942
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 5: Glenn addressed the media and said that we are going

943
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 5: to be moving in silence, and that was by design. Obviously.

944
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: Glenn comes in part of a dramatic rebound Yeah, a

945
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: dramatic build with the Detroit Lions there under Dan Campbell,

946
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 5: and he gets higher than the offseason. But for the Jets,

947
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: what they wanted to do was the emphasis throughout the

948
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 5: off season was get young. I think right now had

949
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 5: in a rookie mini camp. They got about five or

950
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 5: six guys on this roster at thirty years old. So

951
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 5: I think opening day, once you get there, this is

952
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 5: going to be one of the youngest rosters in the

953
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 5: National Football League. They signed fifteen free agents. Three of

954
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: those guys are projected starters. That's quarterback Justin Fields. He

955
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 5: re signed Jamie Sherwood, and also Andre Cisco comes over

956
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 5: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Only a couple of those guys

957
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 5: got multi year deals. Fields got a two year deal himself.

958
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 5: And then the offseason continued, obviously with Draft weekend, where

959
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: the Jets got younger with their seven person draft class.

960
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 5: So I think what they're looking for is, hey, we

961
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 5: got to build the culture here and we're all going

962
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 5: to do it with youth.

963
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's the real overwriting story for

964
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: people like on our side of it, who are watching

965
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: the Jets, you know, as closely as you do a

966
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: division rival. Aaron Glenn is really the guy that is

967
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: the driving force. He and we you know, we heard

968
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: about the mass retirement asked for by the Jets front office.

969
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: It's got to be a very different building, not just

970
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: because you have a new head coach, but because of

971
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: that event that happened as well. Can you kind of

972
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: describe the atmosphere there and the vibe that's coming out

973
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: of the building now that so much of a reset

974
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: has already happened.

975
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's good energy, Steve. I mean, bottom line,

976
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: there was voluntary packages offer employees here and listen, I

977
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 5: think what the Jets want is they want an organization

978
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 5: on both sides where hey, people are pumped to be here,

979
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 5: and you do having a new direction on the football

980
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: side with not only Aaron Glenn, but Darren Mugi comes

981
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 5: over from Denver Broncos. But I think that for the

982
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 5: Jets right now. Aaron Glenn nineteen ninety four first round

983
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 5: pick for this team. He plays here until two thousand

984
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: and one, fifteen seasons in the National Football League, forty

985
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 5: one interceptions. He came back as a scout in twenty

986
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: twelve and thirteen, so he's a scout a couple of

987
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 5: seasons and then he worked under Sean Payton and New Orleans.

988
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: Dan Campbell hires him over in Detroit, and he's authentic,

989
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 5: he's direct, He's going to be able to relate very

990
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 5: well with his players. And also the messaging here is

991
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 5: I think throughout the building is permeating, is that hey, listen,

992
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: we want everybody on board going in the right direction.

993
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: What can we make eric of the defense and what

994
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: we should expect from a scheme perspective. Steve Wilks is

995
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator, and I mean he's a guy

996
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: that even has familiarity with Sean McDermott from their days

997
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: together in Carolina. Should we anticipate a change and a

998
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: shift there? So for the incumbents and the holdovers on

999
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: the roster on the defensive side of the ball, there's

1000
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: going to be a new learning curve here. How different

1001
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: is this defensive scheme going to be to the one

1002
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: they played last season?

1003
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: Well, the one thing that Glenn and said, Brownie is

1004
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: we're going to match our system to our personnel. So

1005
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 5: many times we've seen it over the years where guys

1006
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 5: come in and say, hey, this is my system. I

1007
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 5: don't think that Aaron is going to be that way

1008
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 5: on either side of the football. So they're going to

1009
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 5: match up their scheme with the personnel they have. But

1010
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: that being said, there is one commonality that extends with

1011
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn and Steve Wilt. Those guys like to bring

1012
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 5: the pressure. They like the blitz the quarterback. Where the

1013
00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 5: Jets defensively have to get better is stopping the run.

1014
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 5: They thought that was a huge retaining by keeping Jamie Sherwood,

1015
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 5: one of the NFL's brightest young linebackers in house, so

1016
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 5: he didn't really reach the market. They were able to

1017
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: resign him, and he's the quarterback of the defense on

1018
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: the inside. You still had pieces here. You have Sherwood

1019
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 5: and Quincy Williams. You go off the level. You got

1020
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: Quinn Williams, will McDonald flourished in the second season with

1021
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 5: more than ten sacks. You get Jermaine Johnson coming back

1022
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 5: off the Achilles. Then you go back to the secondary.

1023
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner's here. You picked up Brandon Stevens and free

1024
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 5: agency and they drafted a young corner back out of

1025
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 5: Florida State and a z Thomas that they really like.

1026
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: In the third round, with that. With all that being said,

1027
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: the Jets are going to put an emphasis on stopping

1028
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: the run and also bringing pressure. And those guys Wilkes

1029
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: and Glenn throughout their careers day Blitz.

1030
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have. We talked about, you know, the roster

1031
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: and he said, all the new free agents with a

1032
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: bunch a couple of guys less than a handful that

1033
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: may start different defensive philosophy. The staff is different all

1034
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: throughout the building. The head coach obviously, the GMO manager

1035
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: is different. What was there anything about this past few

1036
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: years of the Jets that that Aaron Glenn has mentioned

1037
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: that he says, Yeah, they've done this good. We're not

1038
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: going to change this too much. Or is it man

1039
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: top to bottom They're going to rinch through and change

1040
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 2: just about everything because the Jets were not non competitive.

1041
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: They used to struggle to win games. Give us an

1042
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: idea of some of the things that maybe won't change

1043
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: in that building that they liked when they got there.

1044
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great point is that there are pieces

1045
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: here and a mood. He said after the recent draft

1046
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: that hey, listen, I like where my roster is at

1047
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: now on an offensive side of the ball, to the Jets.

1048
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: It all comes back to the quarterback piece, and Justin

1049
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 5: Fields is going to have an opportunity eleventh overall selection

1050
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: back in twenty twenty one. This is going to be

1051
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 5: his third NFL team and season and last year in Pittsburgh.

1052
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy goes four and two. He protected

1053
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 5: the football, that was a problem early in his career,

1054
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 5: and Field is going to have the opportunity to play quarterback.

1055
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: Why mentioned him here with the Jets is that there

1056
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 5: were pieces along the offensive line when these guys got here.

1057
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 5: So going from left to right. Olu Fashnu was drafted

1058
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 5: in the first round out of Penn State. Last April,

1059
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: he signed John Simpson. The previous regime signed John Simpson

1060
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: a free agency. He had a really good year at

1061
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: the left guard position. At the center position, you got

1062
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 5: Joe Tipman, a former early round draft pick, and you

1063
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: also signed Josh Myers in free agency. He's going to

1064
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 5: give you some depth and he started most of the

1065
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 5: last four years for the Green Bay Packers at that

1066
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 5: center position. Right guard, you got Elijah Vera Tucker where

1067
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: he's played all over the line, but the Jets want

1068
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: to make him a guard, so that kind of led

1069
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 5: into the draft, and you kind of saw where the

1070
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 5: Jets philosophy was that Okay, previous regime they took a

1071
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 5: tackle in the first round. Last year, well, the Jets

1072
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: come back in a new regime and they take a

1073
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Speaker 5: tackle on the opposite side. So there are pieces up

1074
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 5: front along the offensive line. And I do think that

1075
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Speaker 5: both those guys recognized when they walked into the door, Hey, listen,

1076
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: we do have some pieces that we can build on.

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Speaker 5: You can go an outside and talk about Garrett Wilson

1078
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 5: and Brief Hall is a guy who I think is

1079
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 5: going to benefit this year for more of a commitment

1080
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 5: to the run. And then we go to the opposite

1081
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: side of the ball. Sauce Gardner probably did not play

1082
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Speaker 5: as well as he did his first two seasons, excuse me,

1083
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 5: But Darren Glenn comes in and he's got a staff

1084
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 5: that is going to be focusing on development throughout and

1085
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 5: you're gonna hear that with guys like Wilkes and Chris

1086
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 5: Harris and guys who played in the league like drey Blive.

1087
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Speaker 5: So I think they came in here Steve and was like, Okay,

1088
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 5: there are good players here. There are good pieces we

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 5: have to add to it and we have to set

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Speaker 5: the culture right.

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Speaker 1: And with that in mind, Eric, I'm kinda I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about the youth that's on this roster, as you've outlined,

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Speaker 1: new head coach and Aaron Glenn wants to establish a

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Speaker 1: culture and at the same time, I imagine with a roster

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Speaker 1: that young, he wanted to have his staff that could

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Speaker 1: actually develop players and make them better, which is something

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Speaker 1: that I think we can all agree has been missing

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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis from the Jets organization. Players get there,

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01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: they're super talented, but they don't always get better and

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: ascend and become even better players after they get there.

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Speaker 1: There are some, but it's not a universal thing across

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: the board with their roster, and maybe Sauce Gardner's the

1103
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: most recent example he had kind of a regressive season

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Speaker 1: last year. Is is Aaron Glenn got that pretty high

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Speaker 1: on his priority list to emphasize with his coaching staff

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Speaker 1: player development to make this young roster better as soon

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Speaker 1: as possible.

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Speaker 5: And most recent stop, as you guys know what Detroit was,

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Speaker 5: what did they do there? They drafted and developed and

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Speaker 5: those guys continue to get better, and last year, I

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 5: would argue was one of Glenn's best coaching jobs in

1112
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: all because it was a mass unit and defensively and

1113
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 5: they were still going out there towards the end. Obviously

1114
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 5: they took their lumps, but Aaron kept on getting new

1115
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 5: people in there, and they talk about the standards as

1116
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 5: far as what they had on the defensive side of

1117
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 5: the ball, and the trade mark of Glenn's defenses in

1118
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 5: Detroit where they were going to stop the run, they're

1119
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 5: going to pressure the quarterback, and they're going to take

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Speaker 5: the ball away. But he's really pumped off Brownie about

1121
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: his staff. He brings over Tanner Angstrand from Detroit, who

1122
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 5: was a passing game coordinator under Ben Johnson. I thought

1123
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Speaker 5: to Ben Johnson about him at league meetings. He said,

1124
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 5: this guy was involved in everything we did on the

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Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. You bring in Wilts is

1126
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 5: a guy who not only has tremendous experience in the

1127
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball, but he also is going

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 5: to be a great resource because he's got that head

1129
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 5: coaching experience. And then finals, finally, special teams. Chris Banjo

1130
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 5: is a guy who was most recently in Don Bern.

1131
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 5: He brings a lot of juice to the table, so

1132
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Speaker 5: I mean, for Aaron, it was super important to get

1133
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 5: the right guys in here on his staff because he

1134
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 5: said it from the gate that you cannot be afraid

1135
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Speaker 5: of playing young players is a young man's game.

1136
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Speaker 2: What was the rhetorica the Jeffs from the Jets front

1137
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: office and staff going into the draft, and now they

1138
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: got three offensive players five defensive players in this draft

1139
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: and what how has the reaction been to their draft afterwards?

1140
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Speaker 5: Well, we're going to see these guys out there on

1141
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 5: the field this weekend for the first time. It's Ricky

1142
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: mini camp, much like you guys are having in Western

1143
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 5: New York. But listen, are my Mambu young guy who

1144
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: really is draft I think was elevated big time by

1145
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 5: what he did in Indianapolis. I mean, you're talking about

1146
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 5: a six four, three hundred and thirty pounds plus athlete

1147
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 5: was running the forty in less than five seconds. And

1148
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 5: for Glenn, it's not just like what kind of numbers

1149
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 5: are you putting up there in terms of being a

1150
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 5: workout warrior, but what kind of mentality do you have?

1151
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 5: And this kid plays nasty and that's what they're going

1152
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 5: to try to establish up front. If you go back

1153
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 5: to last year. Obviously these guys weren't there. But again,

1154
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: the Jets were last in the National Football League in

1155
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 5: rush attempts and that's not going to happen again with

1156
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Speaker 5: these guys now. So Brownie, what happened was entering the draft,

1157
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 5: most people were saying, okay, up come, it could come

1158
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 5: down to ultimately armand Mambou out of Missouri or maybe

1159
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 5: a tight end like Tyler Warren out of Time State. Well,

1160
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 5: we get the draft weekend and it was interesting because

1161
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 5: lovel out of Michigan was actually the first Titan who

1162
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 5: came off the board. Was that was ten after ten overall,

1163
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 5: after the Jets took Membu and then war On went

1164
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 5: fourteenth to Indianapolis. But the Jets were very happy. I

1165
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 5: will tell you this that at the forty second pick

1166
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 5: in the second round, when you're waiting ten picks, you're

1167
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 5: still able to get Mason Taylor, the most productive tight

1168
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 5: end in LSU history. Also good blood lines, being Jason

1169
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 5: Taylor's son. As you guys know, he's a guy. Could

1170
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 5: he could be one of Justin Field's top weapons from

1171
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 5: the get go. We'll let's see what happens. And then

1172
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Speaker 5: Arian Smith, they took a guy in the third round

1173
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 5: who in the fourth round. Excuse me, it was a flyer.

1174
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 5: I mean he's a burner. He needs some drops. Issues

1175
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: at Georgia last year, but he's going to come in

1176
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 5: and you've got to have to count for him with

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01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 5: your safeties because he can take a top off the defense.

1178
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Speaker 5: And another thing he's going to bring is going to

1179
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Speaker 5: provide special teams value. Then you've got four defensive players.

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Speaker 5: I think a guy to watch out for here early

1181
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 5: for the Jets is Melchi Moore out of Alabama. He

1182
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 5: played five seasons for the Crimson Tide, played all over

1183
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 5: that secondary the Jets, like I mentioned before, they signed

1184
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 5: Cisco on free agency, a ball hawking type dude who

1185
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 5: struggled with the Jaguars that overall, I would say that

1186
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: Jaguars secondary, you know, they had some issues last year,

1187
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 5: but when you go back and look at tape Francisco

1188
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, he's the guys very rangy

1189
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 5: and Glenn wants his guys to find the ball. But

1190
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 5: getting back to Melchi Moore, heady ball player who will

1191
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 5: come up and stop the run. So I'm going to

1192
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 5: be interested to see how he develops. Throughout the offseason

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Speaker 5: into training camp.

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Speaker 1: All right, so last one here, as willing as Aaron

1195
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Speaker 1: Glenn is to play young players, are we anticipating that

1196
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Speaker 1: Membo has a very good chance to be the starting

1197
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: right tackle? And then how would you handicap Mason Taylor's

1198
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: chances of being tight end one, knowing you still have

1199
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Speaker 1: Jeremy RUCKERD on the roster.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, well, we'll have to see how they use

1201
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 5: their personnel. But you guys know that in Detroit oftentimes

1202
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 5: you're using multiple personnel stots. And look at the way

1203
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 5: Laporta came into the league. And I'm not saying Mason

1204
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 5: Taylor is going to be a Laporta, but he's a

1205
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 5: guy's really good in space. I would imagine he's going

1206
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 5: to get decent playing time right off the bat. And

1207
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Speaker 5: then you talked about Membo, He's going to have every

1208
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 5: opportunity to win that right tackle spot. Your the seventh

1209
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 5: overall pick. You know you signed Shoots or quarter four

1210
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 5: who played one game with the Patriots last season, but

1211
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 5: he's got a ton of starting experience from his days

1212
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 5: back with Pittsburgh. But yeah, it would be no surprise

1213
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Speaker 5: at all to see Membo out there opening day at

1214
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Speaker 5: right tackle.

1215
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: All right, ea, thanks for the update on the offseason

1216
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: that the Jets have put together. We'll catch up with

1217
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: you as we get closer to training camp in the

1218
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Speaker 1: regular season.

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Speaker 5: Man, Thanks Eric, Thanks boy.

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Speaker 1: That's Eric Allen, uh, New York Jets, vice President of

1221
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: Strategy and Content over there at New York Jets dot Com.

1222
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: Does great work over there for the Jets side of things.

1223
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: And look, the draft class wasn't huge for them. Only

1224
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: seven players they were busy in free agent in free agency,

1225
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: not a lot of giant names though, Steve outside of

1226
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Brandon Stevens is the cast off from Baltimore,

1227
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: the corner and he might start for the Jets opposite

1228
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner unless you know their third round pick, as

1229
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: Thomas has anything to say about it out of Florida State.

1230
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: And then after that, it's it's largely one year contract guys.

1231
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: Everybody else signed one year deals in free agency. Tyler Johnson,

1232
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, even the kicker Austin McNamara, and some defensive linemen.

1233
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Speaker 2: So well that we've seen this before, Ronnie, that's what

1234
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: the Bills did when they got in here. When you're

1235
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 2: when you're changing everything over. And I asked Eric Allen

1236
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: about it. Think about over one hundred people being offered retirement,

1237
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: uh and some of a lot of them taking it. Yeah.

1238
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: And the Jets building, right, So the.

1239
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: Building you're talking about a complete reset of the culture

1240
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: and the vibe and the personnel, the people you see

1241
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 2: in day to day completely changed in that building.

1242
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: And so.

1243
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 2: Coming in with a GM Luji from Denver signing those

1244
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: it's something that Brandon Bean started and we noticed it

1245
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: and now a lot of teams are doing it. Sign

1246
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: these guys to one year deals, these guys that want

1247
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: to have them a lot longer career than just one year.

1248
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a bunch of highly motivated players to

1249
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 2: come out and let's reset this thing and get started

1250
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: off on the right foot. I like the I like it.

1251
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to say it's it seems like

1252
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: the right course of action, right.

1253
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: But there were big names that went out the door

1254
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: like Hassan Reddick, d J Reid, Tyler, Conklin, Morgan, Moses,

1255
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas, uh Brandon Eckles, Davante Adams. I mean,

1256
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: those were all names we came to know with the

1257
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: Bills facing that team twice a year, and he just

1258
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: swept him right out the door and started over. Yeah,

1259
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: I mean, this young team's gonna take some lumpers.

1260
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, they got young because of those guys going out

1261
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: the door. Yes, I mean Davante Adams and those guys.

1262
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean Davante was there for a cough cup of coffee.

1263
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: He was there for the season. So i'm it's not

1264
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: like those guys were and it's not like those guys

1265
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: were in house household names who grew up in the

1266
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 2: franchise and you were these legendary players for the franchise.

1267
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: Oh and they also released forgot about.

1268
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 2: The players, no questions. Some of are really good C. J. Mosley,

1269
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: some of them are really good players. But man, o'man,

1270
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: you know that this is a team that needed a reset,

1271
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 2: and Aaron Glenn has really giving it to them. I

1272
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: love the idea of not only rinsing out the locker

1273
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: room's roster, but also the staff inside the building. You

1274
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: and I have always talked about what a different animal

1275
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: it is to play for New York over there, you know.

1276
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, and so i'm I think they're just going

1277
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: about it in the right way. Now, we said that.

1278
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: We said these same things about Joe Douglas about four

1279
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: or five years ago. He was killing it in the Dread.

1280
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: They were doing all the right things picking up players,

1281
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: and they did get some a lot of good players.

1282
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, players development was a problem.

1283
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: They couldn't find the quarterback they thought they did was

1284
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Speaker 2: when we went started going down the black hole of

1285
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and you know, it never worked out. So

1286
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: but that crew with Robert Salah started out on this

1287
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: road too. They started out and they looked extremely good

1288
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,520
Speaker 2: for a hot minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think player development was still an elusive

1290
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: thing for that organization. So I'm very curious. That's why

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: I asked Eric, you know, where is it on the

1292
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: priority list for Aaron Glenn Because if you're gonna have

1293
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: a team this young and you want to get good,

1294
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: you better have coaches that know how to make players

1295
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: better in this league. And that's easier said than done.

1296
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: And you can argue that the Jets have wandered in

1297
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: the abyss of non player development for the better part

1298
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: of the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: One of the things good teams with good player development

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 2: do is they do their best to be a sounding

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: board and a foundation for what these guys do away

1302
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: from the building. Most of these guys will work hard

1303
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: enough and do every all the little things inside this building.

1304
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: You know, they'll come over, they'll go to meetings, they'll

1305
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: show up on time, they'll work out, they'll lift, they'll

1306
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 2: practice hard, they'll be good teammates. They'll they'll go to

1307
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: you know, they'll get treatments for their injuries and stuff.

1308
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: They'll you know, get to know the stat the whole thing.

1309
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: The problem is when they leave this building, they have

1310
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: to have something. You have to have something that they

1311
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: carry with them to make sure that when they're not

1312
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 2: in the building they're not blowing all the progress they

1313
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: have made during a work day. The team has to

1314
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 2: kind of understand why these guys are with their where

1315
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: they came from, what makes them tick, so that when

1316
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: they go away from the building, you've given them something

1317
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: that's going to keep them coming back and keep them

1318
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: in the mindset they had in the building. There, gonna

1319
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: work hard, they're gonna eat right, they're gonna do all

1320
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: the right things, get enough sleep, put football at a

1321
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: high priority when they're outside the building. I think that's

1322
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: some teams have yet to embrace that. You know, they

1323
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: turn these guys once they get done with their work date.

1324
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: It's a little bit like getting out of school. And

1325
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: good football players are good football players twenty four hours

1326
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: a day, seven days a week. They're always that way.

1327
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: You don't think about when when the work day is over,

1328
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: when you get to go home, you don't think about

1329
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: it like going out on recess. You can do whatever

1330
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: you want now, or you're out of school. You can

1331
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: go down and hang out on the street street. You

1332
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: know that some of them do that. Some of them

1333
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: go out and they find all the trouble they can

1334
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: find because they've got their responsibilities done for the day.

1335
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: You can't get better with that mentality. You can't outtrain

1336
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: your diet.

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1338
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: So some of these guys struggle with that. And I

1339
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 2: think teams with good development give these guys a message

1340
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 2: that sticks with them outside the building.

1341
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: And we saw it change here and it changed quickly,

1342
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: so it's not like it can't be done with a

1343
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: new regime. We'll see if Aaron Glenn can pull it

1344
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: off with the Jets down there in New Jersey. Got

1345
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: to take a break here. But when we come back,

1346
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: we resume our conversation with you as we were asking

1347
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: which position group for the Bills faces the most difficult

1348
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: roster decisions? Eight three five point fifty one eighty eight

1349
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty the number to jump on board.

1350
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: We're back with more of your comments. Next here on

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01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, persented by to Lot of Health. It's

1352
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio talking back to One Bill's five Chris

1353
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: brown Steed task, go with you, tamic a discussion for

1354
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: you today, Which position group on the Bills do you

1355
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: think faces the most difficult roster decisions when we get

1356
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: to the end of August. No, we're kind of jumping

1357
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: over OTAs and training camp a bit here, but you

1358
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: look at this roster, how it's constructed, it's gonna be

1359
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: some very difficult decisions when it comes time to cut

1360
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: this roster down to fifty three, even before we've seen

1361
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: them perform on the field. Just on paper alone, it

1362
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: looks pretty challenging in a good way because it is

1363
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: riddled with talent. But you let us know what you think.

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: At eight three oh five fifty one eighty eight five

1365
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty. We've also discussed the AFC East

1366
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: and the off season as we make our way through

1367
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: the division to the Patriots yesterday, the Jets today, we'll

1368
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: do the Dolphins tomorrow. And speaking of the Dolphins, we

1369
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: have Jimmy in Miami waiting for us. What do you

1370
01:15:59,240 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: got for us? Jimmy?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Yeah, you know, I heard you talking about

1372
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 6: the Dolphins and you I think you've had Omar Kelly

1373
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 6: on before. He's a writer for the Heralds. He's really good.

1374
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 6: But he was saying, remember when Vic Fangio was there,

1375
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 6: he was the defensive coordinator in twenty twenty three. Fangio

1376
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 6: said he had a problem keeping his players out of

1377
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 6: South Beach and that was a major problem for him.

1378
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 6: Now it could have been three or four defensive players,

1379
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 6: I don't know. He didn't name names. But they got

1380
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 6: a real problem with culture in that locker room. Like

1381
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 6: players show up late for meetings. McDaniel finds them, they

1382
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 6: keep coming in late. They don't they don't have a

1383
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 6: strong personality in that locker room like a Josh Allen

1384
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 6: or a Dion Dawkins that can get one of these

1385
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 6: guys and say, look here's the way we do things

1386
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 6: on this team. You got to show up on time

1387
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,679
Speaker 6: for meetings. Is the way we want to do things

1388
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 6: so we can win. I mean, and then when you

1389
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 6: see what Tyreek Hill did last year in the last

1390
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 6: game of the season when they needed him to be

1391
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 6: there for them, because I mean, they had an outside

1392
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 6: chance to get in the playoffs. And the guy in

1393
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter doesn't want to come in and play,

1394
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 6: and Jalen Ramsey goes over and he says, what do

1395
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 6: you mean you want to play? You don't want to

1396
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 6: You don't want to go in on the fourth quarter.

1397
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 6: He told McDaniel he didn't want to go in. I mean,

1398
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 6: that's the kind of culture that they have. And I

1399
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 6: think McDaniel, I think, like you say, everything's going to

1400
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 6: implode this year because McDaniel's a good offensive coordinator, but

1401
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 6: he just he doesn't have the strong personality that where

1402
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 6: he can corral some of these guys and say, look,

1403
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 6: I mean, this is the way we got to do

1404
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 6: things if you guys want to win, and you know

1405
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 6: you can. People can complain about the Bills, and I

1406
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 6: do too, But one thing about the Bills, I'll tell

1407
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 6: you the culture on the team is super strong, and

1408
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 6: I think when they have a problem with a player,

1409
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 6: you never hear about it because they sit the guy

1410
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 6: down and they say, look, here's the way it's got

1411
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 6: to be. You want to be on this team, you

1412
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 6: want to win. This is the way we do things.

1413
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 6: And Miami just doesn't hand that. And I'm with you.

1414
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 6: I think they're going to implode this year. I think

1415
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 6: if they win six or seven games this year, it's

1416
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 6: going to be a lot. And Kelly was saying that

1417
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 6: Nacdaniel and Career the general manager. I mean, they're really

1418
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 6: coaching for their jobs this year. They don't do it

1419
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 6: getting in the playoffs, they're probably going to be gone.

1420
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank yeah, thanks for the call, Jimmy. I

1421
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's a pretty good assessment and I see

1422
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: a lot of it the same way for Miami. And

1423
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: you could look up and down their roster right now

1424
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: as it's currently constituted, and you would be hard pressed

1425
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: to find a proven leader there. The name that came

1426
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: up for me was Zach Seeler, the defensive tackle who's

1427
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: a very good player for them and really kind of

1428
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: had to hold down the Ford after they decided not

1429
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: to keep Christian Wilkins and instead throw a ton of

1430
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: money at players like Jalen Ramsey, and now they're looking

1431
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: to move Jalen Ramsey a year later, and Christian Wilkins

1432
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: is playing somewhere else. So Steiler, I think is a

1433
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: leadership type player. But besides him, you'd be hard pressed

1434
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: to find a true leader on this football team. Obviously,

1435
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: your quarterback needs to be a leader to some degree,

1436
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: but I don't sense that Tua is a guy that

1437
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: necessarily commands the room per se. And even a grizzled

1438
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: veteran that's respected like a Tehran Armstead, isn't there anymore.

1439
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: He retired, So they are really devoid of leadership in

1440
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: the locker room. Like you hear coach McDermott say all

1441
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: the time, player driven leadership that is sorely absent there.

1442
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: And if there was ever a head coach that needed it,

1443
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's Mike McDaniel.

1444
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 2: They have a reputation, they've been criticized for being soft.

1445
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 2: Their offense is a fin offense. It's a quick release offense.

1446
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: Is built around the skills of their players, and you

1447
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: should they should be I mean, that's the West way

1448
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,919
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be done. But it's not a physical offense.

1449
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 2: They don't have a reputation of having grit, and the

1450
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: way and the rhetoric coming out of Miami, they couldn't

1451
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: hide it. I mean, as much as you would like to,

1452
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio got fired after one year because they didn't

1453
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: like hard coaching.

1454
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think he was disappointed that he was

1455
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: let go.

1456
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like those guys that he didn't like the

1457
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: way they played.

1458
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: He went to Philadelphia, had some dogs on that team

1459
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: from a national championship squad at Georgia who were coached hard,

1460
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, in college and then just matriculated to the NFL.

1461
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: So hard coaching from Fangio was just old hat for them. Yeah, Okay,

1462
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:53,480
Speaker 1: hard coaching.

1463
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: Went and they went at all. They don't go eight

1464
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: to nine, you know, they.

1465
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: So seeing what Fangio did with that group, you know,

1466
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: it kind of validates him, it really and invalidates the

1467
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: players on the Dolphins.

1468
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: Pust some egg on the on the face of the

1469
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: roster of the Dolphins. They got called, they got labeled

1470
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: as soft. The guy they said they didn't want as

1471
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator goes over and coordinates the World championship.

1472
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's a slap in the face. Uh,

1473
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: kudos to Mike McDaniel, the head coach, for bringing Fangio in.

1474
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: But you got rid of the wrong entity. You should

1475
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 2: have kept the coordinator and got rid of the players

1476
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: didn't like being coached. Yeah, you'd have been better off.

1477
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: You couldn't have been worse. I mean, you could have

1478
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: been worse, like I could have lost more games, but

1479
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,759
Speaker 2: you you were at a losing record anyway.

1480
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: But Jimmy outlined it, like, you have players coming late

1481
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: to meetings, McDaniel would find them, nothing would change. Yeah,

1482
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: it's not good.

1483
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: If you're gonna do that, you gotta suspend players are fine,

1484
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 2: or get them if they start being late for meetings.

1485
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of things that are possible for an

1486
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: NFL team. One, they can have him start being regularly

1487
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: drug tested. Excuse me, well, you can have them drug

1488
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: tested regularly. You can have them you can obviously find

1489
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: and suspend them. But if they start showing up late

1490
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: for meetings, it's a tailtale sign something's not right. The

1491
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: coach has to do something. The only way you can

1492
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: do it is two ways. One the pocketbook. Two, bench them,

1493
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: deactivate them for the game. You got to do something.

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: You can't allow guys not to be on time for

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Speaker 2: their workday. And if you're doing that and it's not

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: and it's chronic, it's ahead.

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Speaker 1: And then it can become contagious.

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Speaker 2: It's the head coaching problem. Well, the young guys learn

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Speaker 2: it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not good either. Uh eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: five fifty the numbers to get on board. Want to

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Speaker 1: jump back on the tweet sheet here to get some

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01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: of your thoughts on position groups for the bills that

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01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: you think will face the most difficult roster decisions. Eric

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01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: on the tweets sheet says, defensive tackle ed is the

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: undisputed number one. Then after that it's a bunch of

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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: whe don't know how good or bad everyone will be.

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01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Obviously the rotation helps everyone's chance of making the team,

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01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: but I don't think we'd be surprised if anyone else didn't,

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01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: aside from probably TJ. Sanders. Well that might be a

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01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: little bit extreme, Eric, but I get where you're coming

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01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 1: from because I think on the high end you're probably

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01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: looking at ten defensive linemen on the high end. Now,

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: what's that breakdown? Is it five ends and four dts

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01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: or is it five DT's and four ends. And if

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: you're if you're electing to go short at DT, if

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01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: you only keep nine, that's tough because you got two

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01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: draft choices there in the second and fourth round and

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01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: Walker and Sanders ed Oliver Daekwon Jones.

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01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: You've got eight defensive ends and tackles combined on the

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01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: roster right now without the draft picks.

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: And look, the two suspensions make it easy at the

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,480
Speaker 1: outset of the season because that's two to less positions

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: that veterans are taking up.

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Speaker 2: But they do come back, that's right. Don't forget Joy

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: Boss on this squad. He's not suspended, and that's where

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: the rotation starts right there, and then everybody falls away

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: from that. Then it's Mike hoyt ogin Joby. You can,

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01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: you know, take your pick about how you want to

1531
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: slice and dice this. Rousseau's obviously going to be there, Solomon,

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, it's careening towards a number of ten.

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01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Land and like you want, I mean, and

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: the two suspensions certainly alleviate some of the decision making.

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01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: You know, you just you take Hoyt and ogin Joeby

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01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: out of the equation, and you plug into Walker and

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01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: Jackson the two draft choices, and then you still have

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: to make a decision on Dwayne Carter, Jovon Solomon. To

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01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: your point, you know, Zion Loge was a practice squad

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: guy then got called up. He was a little up

1541
01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: and down on the roster, off the roster. Guys like that,

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01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to make this roster.

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01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: And again, you know a guy like Zion log he's

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01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: twenty two years only six six, three fourteen out of Georgia,

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01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: so he's been around some big moments. Yeah, and you

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: got to give the guy a chance to develop, which

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01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: this club is doing.

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01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: Nick also says defensive line, both inter, ear and edge

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: can make a case for keeping six at each spot.

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: It's silver lining one. Each spot has a suspension, so

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: he can kick the can down the road a bit. Yeah,

1552
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: but only for six weeks. And look, some things can

1553
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: come up. You can have a guy suffer an injury

1554
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: and then he's not available. Maybe you move him to

1555
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: IR for a month, and when you bring one of

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01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the suspended guys back. So there are ways around it,

1557
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: but you're not hoping for injuries, that's for sure. So

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01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 1: sloth nos Ball says, the secondary bunch of things that

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01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: will need to be sorted out, there's three versatile utility

1560
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: guys with Ingram, Hancock and Lewis. Possibly all three make it,

1561
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: but it'll be tough. Then on the boundary, Tray and

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01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: Dane are probably competing for one spot. Trey is likely

1563
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 1: the better corner, but Dane offers more on special teams

1564
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: than Hamlin and Forrest very well, maybe competing for one

1565
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: safety spot. Hamlin as the experience gives you a stable floor,

1566
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: but Forrest offers much more athleticism and upside. And then

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: still Codrington and Daikwon Hardy and how both of those

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01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: players factor into the return game.

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01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get those veterans in there. Like I say, Tredevius,

1570
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: why he's a perfect example if he's not if he's

1571
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna play a role and gonna be active on game day,

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: he's got to play a role which doesn't include planes

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01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: corner in a lot of cases. Right, So if you

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01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: got a guy like Tredevius, he might be the better corner,

1575
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: but he's not gonna give you enough on game day

1576
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: because he's not gonna play corner he's gonna play special teams.

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01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means, you know, means your.

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01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 2: Draft pick gets it.

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01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people might be

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01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 1: surprised to hear that. But you could get to a

1581
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: place where Trey White and Dan Jackson are competing for

1582
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe one of the last corner spots on the roster.

1583
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: It could shake out that way.

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01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: Potentially you get a guy like Jordan Hancock, who who's

1585
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 2: better covering kicks than Trey is. Then you got to

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: you got a tough thing to do, then, you know, yeah,

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01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: put you can put not easy. Yeah, you could throw

1588
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: Trey on the practice quality if he'll do that for you.

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01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Who knows?

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Speaker 1: Break time for us? Here some final thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: tweetcheet when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steeds asker with you,

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: and some final thoughts on the tweet sheet in terms

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01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: of the position group on the Bills roster that might

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01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: have the most difficult roster decisions to make when they

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: trim it down to fifty three in late August, Andrews

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01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 1: says safety, because who's gonna stay healthy. That position's been

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: hit hard by injuries in the past. Can they stay healthy?

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01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: That is the question TM four Sports Corner. I think

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01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: trying to balance the vets they brought back plus the

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01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: ones they drafted will be difficult. I'd assume special teams

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01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: plays a big role, but that group is one of

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01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: the most I'm interested in in seeing how it plays out.

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01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: Jordan says, it's gotta be wide receiver. No one has

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01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: approven number one. Not a lot of time either, Josh

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01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: in the offseason and the new guys. There's a lot

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: of competition there so and then Mark says, defensive line

1609
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies and many older and injury prone. Also,

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01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the two suspended at the beginning of the season will

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01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: be sorted out as well.

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01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it always pops up. Somebody says, well, we

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01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: need a number one. I'm like, I don't know. They

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01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: took thirty million dollars in dead cap money last year

1615
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 2: to move their one off their one off the roster

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: and did pretty well. So yeah, I'm not worried about

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01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: a number one.

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Rookie Mini camp tomorrow, Steve and the Jersey numbers have

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01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: been assigned to the rookies, are you ready, Let's go.

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01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: Harston wears thirty one, Hancock will wear thirty seven, Dorian

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01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Strong forty three, Chase Lun seventy seven, Cayden Pray there

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01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: eighty one, Hawes is gonna wear eighty five, and then

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01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman Jackson ninety four, Walker ninety six, Sanders

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: ninety eight. All right, get them written in your program.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow at one