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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and

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Speaker 1: I'm Mila Hill.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello there. If you guys are just joining us, this

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Speaker 1: is a very special episode. We are in a different

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Speaker 1: room because you're entering the tribe chat. How are you

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Speaker 1: feeling today, my love? I feel good.

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Speaker 2: I like our little new setup. It feels it feels

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Speaker 2: like more like us.

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Speaker 1: I've been advocating for this setup since the beginning of

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Speaker 1: since we got the sign.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just I know that it can be

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Speaker 2: a pain in the ass, and I have no I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Going to do it. It's inconvenient.

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Speaker 2: Some one else is gonna have to do it.

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Speaker 1: We're we're in the living room of our studio, but

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Speaker 1: the light is so sexy and it is more us.

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Speaker 1: That's why we got the light. We're like some nighttime bitches,

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Speaker 1: hence the night fairy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited because you guys today we are joined

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Speaker 2: by a real witch. You heard it. If you triggered,

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Speaker 2: good keep listening. We know you get really triggered by

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Speaker 2: the word witch. That's why we keep saying it over

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Speaker 2: and over and over for the last six years, but

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Speaker 2: we are joined today by me and Magic, the head

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Speaker 2: witch in charge, the founder of the Witch School. Best

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Speaker 2: selling author. Your book is called Intuition, Into which I

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Speaker 2: love the love and I've been I've been following you,

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Speaker 2: and I love, love, love your page. I just love

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Speaker 2: what you represent, I love what you share. I love

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Speaker 2: how you've tapped into magic and are sharing it with

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Speaker 2: the world, because I think the world of magic gets

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Speaker 2: such a bad rap, and especially the word witch, like

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Speaker 2: that is a word. I think that me and Mila

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Speaker 2: didn't realize how so much negative connotation until really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think we always knew, but then, like we do retreats,

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Speaker 2: and so we would say that word, and I remember

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Speaker 2: a few girls being really triggered by that word, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why does that upset you so much? So

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Speaker 2: I commend you for going balls to the wall with that.

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Speaker 2: I have indeed, Yes, So, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to be here, and me two both,

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Speaker 1: it's so nice to have you. I'm excited. I always

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Speaker 1: really get excited when we get other witches on the show,

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Speaker 1: because I think you're right now a lot of women

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Speaker 1: are comfortable in like claiming that or saying that, And

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Speaker 1: even you and I have had our we've had our

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Speaker 1: own like.

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Speaker 2: Back and forth about journey to the word witch.

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Speaker 1: If you've been listening for like the last six years,

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Speaker 1: there was a time where we would only say like

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Speaker 1: secretly which or there'd be time and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like witches like not that kind like everybody

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Speaker 1: keep calm, we believe in God. And then finally we're

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Speaker 1: just like we're wishes. And I kind of fuck with

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Speaker 1: it just because I like the I like that it

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Speaker 1: triggers people. I like that it makes people uncomfortable because

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Speaker 1: I just what about it makes you uncomfortable with like

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Speaker 1: the harnessing of energy, the harnessing of power. And it's

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Speaker 1: so uh like Walt Disney of us to be spooked

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Speaker 1: out by it to this day as an adult, So like,

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Speaker 1: tell us what has been your journey with your witch?

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Speaker 1: Which has been your witch journey not only with the

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Speaker 1: word but with your own magic?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's long and the word you know, it's

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Speaker 3: so the reason why we're triggered by it is because

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Speaker 3: of our programming, is because of the patriarchy, is because

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Speaker 3: of organized religion. The word means wise, It comes from

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Speaker 3: Old German. It's the same where we get the word wisdom, wizard, wicked, wicka.

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Speaker 3: All of those words are from the same origin and

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Speaker 3: they meant one who sees, one who knows, one with wisdom.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting what you said about harnessing

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Speaker 3: the power is because wisdom comes from a myriad of

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Speaker 3: different things. There's yogaic wisdom, and Buddhist wisdom, and indigenous

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Speaker 3: wisdom and the ancient the oldest forms of wisdom are

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Speaker 3: really just knowing the plants, the cycles and seasons, how

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Speaker 3: to work with the earth and the weather in order

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Speaker 3: to make food grow, in order to you know, one

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Speaker 3: of the big reasons why witches and healers were demonized

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Speaker 3: by the church is because you could use plants for

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Speaker 3: you could be really sovereign. And so you know, we're

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Speaker 3: triggered by the word because the media, like you said,

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Speaker 3: has really created this green faced, wardy nosed, scary image

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Speaker 3: of what witches are. But back in the day, which

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Speaker 3: is were just the healers. They were the doctors of

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Speaker 3: your village, of your tribe. And so my personal journey

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Speaker 3: with it, I was kind of the same way people

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Speaker 3: would say, Oh, you're super witchy, and you know, I

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Speaker 3: have like wild hair and I often have twigs stuck

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Speaker 3: in it because I spend a lot of time in nature,

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Speaker 3: and so people would say, oh, you're so witchy, and

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, no, no, no, I'm a wizard like

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Speaker 3: Harry Potter. You know, I'm not a witch. And I

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Speaker 3: didn't resonate with it either because of all of these

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Speaker 3: negative associations that we hold with it. But ultimately I

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Speaker 3: experienced just such an awakening remembering that it is about wisdom,

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Speaker 3: and wisdom is just the lessons that you've learned throughout

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Speaker 3: your lifetime and how you inform your behaviors as an

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Speaker 3: embodiment of those lessons. So you know, when you have

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Speaker 3: a bad feeling about a guy that you're dating, but

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Speaker 3: you've had a bad feeling before and you kept dating

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Speaker 3: him and then he cheated on you, wisdom is what

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Speaker 3: separates that act and continuing to ignore your intuition and

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Speaker 3: as I like to call it, or listening and saying,

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Speaker 3: you know what, the last time I had a feeling

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Speaker 3: like this, I shouldn't have ignored the red flag, And

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Speaker 3: this time I'm going to listen, and I'm gonna take

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Speaker 3: better care of myself, and I'm gonna honor who I am.

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Speaker 3: That's all wisdom is, and we've forgotten the wisdom of

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Speaker 3: the ancient ways in our modern day. None of us

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Speaker 3: know how to grow food, or like fix our own clothes,

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Speaker 3: or any build a fire, you know, kill an animal,

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Speaker 3: even though so many of us eat them. And so

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Speaker 3: I think wisdom is such an important thing to reclaim

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Speaker 3: and to bring home to the reverence that it deserves.

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Speaker 3: And for me, it was about nature and finding I

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Speaker 3: wasn't raised in organized religion, and nature was always the temple,

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Speaker 3: but that kind of went unsaid. It wasn't really explicitly

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Speaker 3: lot of time in nature as a family. And for me,

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Speaker 3: I realized that when I started understanding God and we

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Speaker 3: were mentioning this person earlier. I had this boyfriend who

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Speaker 3: was really Christian when I was young, and he had

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Speaker 3: this dialogue with God, with the Holy Father because he

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Speaker 3: didn't have a father.

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Speaker 2: Figure in it life.

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Speaker 3: And I thought that was so fascinating and so interesting

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Speaker 3: that he could always, you know, pick up the phone

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Speaker 3: and talk to God and God was so masculine, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, where is the mother in God? Where's

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Speaker 3: the feminine in God? If we all come out of

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Speaker 3: wombs and pussies, how is there no feminine aspect of God?

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Speaker 3: And so I really wanted to discover that for myself

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Speaker 3: and learn what that meant. And I found her in nature.

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Speaker 3: I found this voice. I found someone that would answer

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Speaker 3: and that would respond to me all the time. And

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Speaker 3: so that really set me down a path of goddess worship,

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Speaker 3: finding my own inner goddess, balancing my own inner masculine.

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Speaker 3: Who's the warrior and the protector and the provider inside

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Speaker 3: of me? And who's the creative muse and the receptive,

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Speaker 3: sensual sexual queen energy? And how do I bring those

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Speaker 3: two archetypes into harmony? And that was how I found

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Speaker 3: the Greatest Magical Powers.

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