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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back All the Smoke. Two. We in the building

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Speaker 1: with some new merchant. And now y'all see it. You

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Speaker 1: don't see it, you see they see it. Man. We

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Speaker 1: want to welcome to the show one of the bright

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Speaker 1: young talents in the w n B A. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do this in two parts, Sabrina, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you announce your own last name because I

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Speaker 1: think it's the most mispronounced name in sports. No, you

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Speaker 1: still looked it up your school, school, your nest school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: went out there. Stop sucking up on it, damn it.

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Speaker 1: That's why I didn't want to because I wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: I was like, let me just tell half her tel

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Speaker 1: the world what it really is so we can we

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Speaker 1: can get off to a good stars. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: call your brain. That's fine, all right? Cool? So bar

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Speaker 1: are you girl? Want to Creek to be exact, shout

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Speaker 1: out the bay. Um, tell us about your upbringing. I

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Speaker 1: know you're really close knit family. Talk to us about

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Speaker 1: what life and one of Creek was like, Yeah, born

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Speaker 1: and raised, Um, love the bay. You know, the Warriors

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Speaker 1: always went to the games. Um. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: grew up with two brothers immigrant family. They all immigrated here,

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Speaker 1: so it was a grind like growing up. Um you know,

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Speaker 1: um Romania immigranted from Mania. Yeah, I came from Europe

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Speaker 1: and UM drop us off at the park half the time.

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Speaker 1: We'd play for ten hours a day and then go

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Speaker 1: to school and UM, yeah, so it's been great. Um,

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Speaker 1: I love the Bay. I always go back and UM, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're a twin. I got twins. I got identical thirteen

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Speaker 1: year old boys, but you're a you have a twin brother.

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Speaker 1: What's that dynamic like? Because I remember the twins like

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Speaker 1: having their own little language when they were little. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't even speak yet, but we'd have them on the

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Speaker 1: baby monitors and they'd be going back and forth laughing like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what the hell are they talking about? Did you guys

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Speaker 1: have any kind of special twins stuff? Absolutely? Um, I

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Speaker 1: mean he said that was his first word. My first

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Speaker 1: word was his name. His first word was my name.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, it's a whole different world. Like people really

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Speaker 1: don't get how close twins actually are, and we do

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Speaker 1: absolutely everything together. I probably wouldn't be where I am

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Speaker 1: today if it wasn't for him, because we got in

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Speaker 1: fist fights, we punched each other, beat each other's asses

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Speaker 1: pushed me to become, um, you know what I am

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Speaker 1: today and honestly still does it. How did you find

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Speaker 1: in love with the game. I was probably in like

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Speaker 1: third or four fourth grade and I was between tennis

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Speaker 1: and basketball and tennis you need a partner, and my

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Speaker 1: brothers would just like want to hoop. So I ended

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Speaker 1: then too. So from that age, like third fourth grade,

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Speaker 1: And so ever since then, I fell in love with

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Speaker 1: When did you? I know he wanted admit it, But

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Speaker 1: when did you pass your brother in hoping in high school?

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Speaker 1: It took me a little while know how mad i'd

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Speaker 1: She beat me a couple of times for a year.

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Speaker 1: That ship stopped quick. So he uses his strength like

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Speaker 1: gonna one way. Who did you idolize? Growing up? Um idolized?

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Speaker 1: Is idolized Steph for sure being from the Bay and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was because he didn't believe in stuff. I didn't

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Speaker 1: And I was the last old head there. I can't

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Speaker 1: not tell them why I was leaving. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: your career, you want to go somewhere, But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I loved um watching her at the point guard position.

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Speaker 1: Kobe with the Lakers for sure. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because we're playing in the league together and

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Speaker 1: it's like I remember being young and watching her and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, she's about twenty years older than I am. Right,

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Speaker 1: who would you say you're patting your game after? I

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Speaker 1: would say I really try and take a little bit everybody. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, it's like I try and take like ever

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Speaker 1: But then it's like, but I really like how Steve

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Speaker 1: that and then I would just take little things of

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch film on Luca donshek how he's able

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you say that because we just

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Speaker 1: have Roy Jones on the show Boxer. He said he

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Speaker 1: took something from all the grades listed, like twelve grades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it took one thing from all of them in But

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Speaker 1: it's what you could do with other sports too, Like

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Speaker 1: you an advantage. What do you remember was about high school?

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Speaker 1: A hundred and nineteen and nine. Yeah, I didn't lose

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Speaker 1: much school record points put in the basket. I guess

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Speaker 1: She said, how was high school? It was great? Um?

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Speaker 1: The hard part was I never lost. So when I

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is awful, and it was like seven. Um,

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Speaker 1: It was just it was fun and like youthful. And

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Speaker 1: Me and you both one of McDonald's What me and

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Speaker 1: you both wanted to McDonald's MVP. But she actually got

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Speaker 1: the trophy? I know, but what happening? What happened? So

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Speaker 1: Everybody knew it. He said I want m VP because

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Speaker 1: Crazy um Honestly, I went in super under the radar.

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Speaker 1: All the other players were like Yukon UM, Stanford, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: fact that she could have went out of high school. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think just the how everybody was talking about and

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Speaker 1: would have been dope. That had been cool. Yeah. There's

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Speaker 1: That's how they do football, right, Yeah, that's crazy. Um.

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be like everyone else. Everyone was committing

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Speaker 1: with the funding from Niagive, Oregan is so dope. People

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Speaker 1: and it's such a yes. It's like having Phil Knight

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Speaker 1: the student athletes. They're like everything is about sports. So

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Speaker 1: it turned out to be, you know, great experience. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to not be a sneaker head being a yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the one of the kind of hard.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hard too many you're considered the goat

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Speaker 1: like with you know, fandom and and just moving along

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Speaker 1: my third game in the season and it was like

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00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: it was so anticipated, like this season and then be

428
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, I'm out. And then all of last year

429
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: it was like I was playing on like a wooden

430
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: leg and it and it hurt, and then it's like

431
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: then you see the people switch like, oh, she's not

432
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: really good, she's not and then it's like, Okay, this

433
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: is really like I just have to focus on me.

434
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I have to get right and then everything else will

435
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: take care of itself. I mean, you locked in first

436
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: game back. So with the mamba jersey on game winner Barclays,

437
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: what's going on, I just had to set the tone.

438
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: Let me know, let it be. No, I know y'all

439
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: probably got first game back game winner. Yeah. I honestly

440
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: jumped about it the night before. I really did. Yeah,

441
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: I really did. That's no bullshit, Like I really was like,

442
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a game winner if it gets to

443
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: that point tomorrow. And so right when coach was drawn

444
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: up to play, like I was just smiling. I was like, oh, yeah,

445
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: here it is. And so it was cool. It was

446
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: like my family was there, was able to watch me

447
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: for the first time since college because of the bubble season,

448
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: and so it was it was rewarding to be able

449
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: to have done that at home in front of a

450
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: crowd for the first time and kind of just like

451
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: a pat on the back for like what I had

452
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: endured the Dimanda j you walking in there? Oh yeah,

453
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: I put it on and I like to don't forget

454
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: represent at all times. What was your thoughts on your

455
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: first taste of the playoffs. It was really it was

456
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: intense and I love it. I love the whole whole

457
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: different level and regnization. Yeah, it was. It's like you're

458
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: not resting, you know, ever you're playing forty if you

459
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: have to. There's no you know, you don't have tomorrow

460
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, I'll play better today. It's it's like,

461
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, now they changed it though. Now there's it's

462
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: a three game series for for all the teams instead

463
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: of a one and done. Um that first round yeah, yeah,

464
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: so the last teams get a three series, which is cool.

465
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: But I like the pressure of like, this is it, Yeah,

466
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: this is it one and done and every possession counts. Yeah,

467
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: every possession, every basket, every turnover. Like it felt like

468
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: March madness, which was fun because I hadn't felt that

469
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: since my junior year. So I was like, oh, this

470
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: is exciting, another level of the game. How are you

471
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: getting ready for the new season? Um, I just deadlifted

472
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: two pounds yesterday, so I probably pulled both hands trains hurt.

473
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm pulling a handstrain thinking about it. I don't know

474
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: if it's the back, I don't know what. Um. Yeah,

475
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get bulletproof for that, but um really,

476
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: the main part of it is physically like getting really strong,

477
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable, confident, and then hooping as well, getting like

478
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: being able to work on the things that I wasn't

479
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: able to last offseason when I was just able to rehab.

480
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I I feel like it's going to

481
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: be a good one. Where do you feel like you're

482
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: at healthwise, I'm I'd say, yeah, so I have three

483
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: more months to the last is like conditioning and then

484
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: like being able to shoot and work out when I'm

485
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: really tired, like the end of the game stuff. So

486
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: other than that though, shot feels really good. And yeah,

487
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: it's like riding a bike for you give us a

488
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: give us an average day, average day in l A.

489
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: You say you're training in the off seat and somewhere

490
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: does it start? Win? Does it in? Usually nine am

491
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: is like court time. So I go like nine to

492
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: nine thirty as of now, just because I have three

493
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: months to kind of build up, and then I go

494
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: to PT rehab for two and a half hour. Let

495
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: me on a little bit. Let let's break it down

496
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: for all the youngsters who are watching. So, what kind

497
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: of stuff are you working on on the court. So

498
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: now it's more repetition, so it's more like spot shots

499
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: off the move, um touches around the basket. So the

500
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: duration is shorter, but it's more intense and harder. Game speed,

501
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: game speed, to just build up the endurance to be

502
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: able to go like a two hour session is like

503
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: simulated game. So that's where I'm at now for the

504
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: next probably three weeks, and then we'll go into the

505
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: next phase. Um so doing that, and then I go

506
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: two and a half hours of strength PT rehab, which

507
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: is like lifting, massage and band work, core arms, tedious ship.

508
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: You gotta do stuff you don't like like you love it. Yeah,

509
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: all the little things rolling out, the worst everything. So

510
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: usually two and a half hours of that, and then

511
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll either have another PT session or I'll go back

512
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: home and do like ride the bike or do some

513
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of like cardio with less impact, and then hot tub,

514
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: cold tub norma tech watch the NBA games that are

515
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: on TV. It's a pro do was just add a

516
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: joint to it. That's a pro day. Yeah, we're gonna

517
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: talk about our brother Kobe now, um, you know we

518
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: we we love hearing stories about him on this on

519
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: this show. Obviously he meant some mean to both of us,

520
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: and and you had a very special bond with him. Um,

521
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: talk to us about when you first met him, what

522
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: that was like? Yeah that was who? When was that? Um?

523
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: Three years ago? I would say three years ago. He

524
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: and Gig and some of her teammates came to my game.

525
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: We played at USC So we played here and our

526
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: coaches were like, oh, there's going to be a surprise. Um,

527
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: we didn't know what. Like, I hadn't had a relationship

528
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: with him before that. We just like followed each other

529
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And so I'm like all right, and I'm

530
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: out there shooting with like, you know, an hour and

531
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: a half before the game starts, not a lot of

532
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: people out there. And then they walk in and I

533
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: was like, is this the surprise? Because there's nothing else

534
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: tops this, so this has to be the surprise. And

535
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: he can't, Like he watched the whole game, came to

536
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: talk to our team after in the locker, room. That's

537
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: when we like exchange numbers, talked, and then ever since

538
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: then it was like workout. You know, I helped coach

539
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, GI's team with him. So ever since then,

540
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: it was like we just clicked and became really good friends.

541
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: He put you through workouts, details and saying yes. But

542
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: it was not as much shooting as you think. It's

543
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: almost little to no shooting. Well, he worked my twins out.

544
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: Of my twins for their birthday, we took a surprise

545
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: out Orange County. He worked him out very little shooting,

546
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: you know. It was it was like fundamental. It was

547
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: literally like you had a ball and it was like alright,

548
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: pivot off your toe for like ten minutes, let it

549
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: get tired, and like back like back pivot for pivots,

550
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: side pivot, like all these pivots. I'm like, are we

551
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: gonna shoot? It wasn't about that. It was all a

552
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: little It was the little things, and it was cool

553
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: because like all gis teammates were doing we're doing them

554
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and we're doing them really well. And I was like,

555
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: this is this is when he practiced that team. Not

556
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: to cut you off. He practiced that team. I think

557
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: he told me, like because That's how we were. Obviously

558
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: we were close, but and then we'd always see each

559
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: other because I was coaching twins, he's coaching ge I'm like,

560
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, how often do you know do you guys

561
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: practice like six days a week? You know? I got

562
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: these girls run They're trying with their eyes closed. I'm like,

563
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: what the funk coke? Like? You kid me? Like? And

564
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: he was not playing it in no, he was not playing.

565
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: And it was long practices. It was like two and

566
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: a half hours, like, and they showed up, happy, excited

567
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: everything day they left it. I love that best advice

568
00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: he gave you. Real sharpness comes without effort, Real sharpness

569
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: comes with that effort. Yeah. Yeah, And he told me

570
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: that we were like walking out of the gym. He

571
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: had a little bag on his back with the balls

572
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: that he carried and was just like and just told

573
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: me that and then like walked away. I was like,

574
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: leave you with that, okay, but Jim, Yeah, And then

575
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: the whole time I was like, Okay, this is what

576
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: he stands for, like put in the work, and then

577
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: when you're out there, it's like, oh it looks so easy.

578
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: It comes so after it's like, yeah, because you put

579
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: the work in the scenes. Yeah, where were you at

580
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: when you heard the news We're about to play Oregon State.

581
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah in the locker room. Uh, probably like literally thirty

582
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: minutes to tip off. Yeah, in the locker room. Um.

583
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: And it was like do I play? Do I not play?

584
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Because I like I don't even remember that day. And

585
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm I didn't warm up, but

586
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play. And we met. We

587
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: had not beaten Oregon State at Oregon State, so it

588
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: was like a huge game for US ESPN game. Um.

589
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: And I don't remember the game, but we won, so

590
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: that was good. I think I did decent, But I

591
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: was not there somewhere else. Yeah, I was not there

592
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: to you spoke with the memorial service, Um, what was

593
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: that like? It was like I was nervous, I was emotional,

594
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Like it was it was awesome to see how many

595
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: people were there that were touched and had some story

596
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: about him, like all the like half the whole NBA

597
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: was there. To be able to see all like friends

598
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: and family and everyone that really came together was it

599
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: was really cool. But I mean it was hard and

600
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: to the fact that I had a game special that

601
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: day as well, there were two very special things obviously, Yeah,

602
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: and so you know, going up there, I was like,

603
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like the youngest player, your person to

604
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: come up here. I was like nervous, emotional, and it

605
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: was just like I have to just do I have

606
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: to just speak, and it's like, don't worry about everyone

607
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: else that's here. It's like you're just talking to them.

608
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: And that's what my agent told me. And I was like,

609
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: so I like that and that. I think that helped

610
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: a lot and kind of calm down a lot of

611
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: my fears. Michael Jordan's speech, I thought it was something

612
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: that was needed. I wasn't expecting it. Um, you know,

613
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: obviously Kobe was our Jordan's, but we saw Jordan two

614
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: and to see that kind of compassion and love and

615
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: the kind of relationship you have with code, how did

616
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: that strike you? Yeah? I was interested to see how

617
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: his speech was going to go. And I heard that

618
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: he was going to be up there because yet it

619
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: was that kind of like little brother mentorship. And it's

620
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: hard when and you guys know, when you're playing against

621
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: these players, it's like you idolize them. Then it's also

622
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: like I want to kick your ass. So it's hard,

623
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: but it was just this level of like respect between

624
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: the two and for him to be able to go

625
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: up there and he cried and you know the meme

626
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: of that, he said it was going to be a

627
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: meme and just you know, to be able to you know,

628
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: see how how much it hurt him, but how much

629
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: he meant to him was. You know, we all feel

630
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: it now when we watch all these players that are

631
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: doing his moves and stuff like, that's really what he

632
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: was to all of us and to your guys kids

633
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: and you know all of that. To see to see

634
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: m J though, that's what it's different. That really touched me, Bro,

635
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you know how we

636
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: all feel about him, but to see m J. Everybody

637
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: wondered the relationship, but to see him actually show his

638
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: real feelings and how he felt about Cold, I think

639
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: everybody needed to hear that, you know what I mean.

640
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Everybody in the world needs to like a little brother

641
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: shit like you knowing Kobe, you know what I mean,

642
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: Like you don't picture but only like only Mike could

643
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: say some ship like that, you know what I mean.

644
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: And so just to have that in true Mamba fashion,

645
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you spoke at the memorial, then went

646
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: back and became the first not just woman but n

647
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: C double a player to have two thousand points, a

648
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: thousand assists, and a thousand rebounds that night. What was

649
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: that twenty four hour span? Like that's crazy? Well, I

650
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: literally spoke, got on plane. Yes, okay, that's how treat.

651
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: That was the only way I get back to the game.

652
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Donor ed Milidus, I'm still friends with him. He let u,

653
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: He let me hop on, hop on the plane, get there, speak,

654
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: um literally fly. I didn't even like warm up, none

655
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: of that fly fly back um. And I think it

656
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: hit me like later on. It didn't hit me like

657
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: right when I was speaking, but like before the game

658
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and stuff like I threw up the entire like three

659
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: hours leading up to the game and for like the

660
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: week after, like I probably had lost like ten pounds.

661
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: So I think it was like I didn't warm up,

662
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: I didn't stretch. I had just put my jersey on

663
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, I'm just gonna go play, and

664
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: so um, A lot of people were talking like are

665
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: you gonna get ten rebounds? Are you gonna because I

666
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: think I needed nine, And I was like it's gonna

667
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: happen on this day because it's it's supposed to have

668
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: and to be like it was, you know, it was

669
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: meant to be, and so to be able to do

670
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: that on like to and that ended up being my

671
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: twenty six and last and the addition of the two,

672
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: it was just it was like you couldn't write it

673
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: any better. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing. You've developed a

674
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: solid friendship with Vanessa and the girls right now. Can

675
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: you speak to that a little bit? I mean, I see,

676
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, to see smiles on their face at all

677
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: is amazing. But you know we see you in pictures

678
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: every once in a while and you hanging out with

679
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the girls now, So how's that? Yeah, it's amazing. I mean,

680
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was so close to Cob and g

681
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: and I didn't want, you know that to get in

682
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: the way of like me not being there for Natalia

683
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: and for the little ones and for Vanessa, and so

684
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: I love the relationship and friendship we have. You know,

685
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: we talk all the time, and um, just being able

686
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: to be there and be there for them, They're there

687
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: for me, um, laugh with them, cry whatever it is.

688
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: You know. Um, it's just so important and what she's

689
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: doing for her kids, is you know, hats off And

690
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't think really a superwoman's superpowers and I don't

691
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: think she also, you know, gets a lot of credit

692
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: for for that because she is one amazing human being.

693
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: Let's shoutout Vanessa. Um building a brand. You found a

694
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: way to do that. Um, we see you when Stay

695
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Farm commercials the CP how that situation come about? Yeah,

696
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: that was really cool. It was my first one. Actually,

697
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: I think it was like one of my first aired

698
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: commercials too, So, um, I was a little nervous, but

699
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: it was cool. It was like my first time having

700
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: to shoot on a commercial and like make a shot.

701
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: And is that more pressure than a big game to

702
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: you a little bit? Yeah, because do I have to

703
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: like make it? And they're like, well no, we could

704
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: like you know, make it go in And I was

705
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: like no, like yeah, I can't break this. Um. So

706
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was awesome. And to still be

707
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: able to see it like playing and people reaching out.

708
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: Stars are crazy. Yeah, they're on every single commercial. It

709
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those commercials. Shooting with Chris another guy, well,

710
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: y'all crying laughing the whole time. Yeah, he's funny. He's funny.

711
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: But we were able to work out after like we

712
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: had like an eight hour shoot day and then he

713
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: was going to the gym and so we had to

714
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: talk before. I was like, I'd love to work out.

715
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: So we ended up working out like two hours after

716
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: that finished at like eleven PM, and I was like,

717
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: this is dope. Yeah. I mean, he's one of the

718
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: great greats of all time. You know, he a neighbor

719
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: of mine and our kids are good friends. So he

720
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: flies to twins out to Phoenix to see But Chris

721
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: is a dope dude. I know, you guys have developed

722
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: a friendship and he's you know, supported you at games

723
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: and stuff with it, like becoming friends with CP. Yeah,

724
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yeah, I mean being able to work out

725
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: with him and see what he does and then you know,

726
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: jumping in on drills, shooting drills, all these things, and

727
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: then you know, now seeing him being one of the best,

728
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, point guards the league's gonna end up seeing

729
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: is is really cool because that's the way that he

730
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: masters his craft, like through his practice, and so I

731
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: was really able to witness that, and yeah, it's nice

732
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: to see him come out support Although I don't know

733
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: who he's rooting for, Phoenix or US when we were

734
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: in Phoenix, but I think he's room for me, so

735
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: but the other team it happens. Yes, So twenty four

736
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you lead the league in Jersey sales. Slam Magazine labeled

737
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: you know pressure the next Queen of New York. When

738
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: you hear stuff like that, you know a girl from

739
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Wanat Creek, California, what kind of stuff starts going through

740
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: your mind. I don't think I'm gonna really process it

741
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: until I'm done playing. I think it's going to be

742
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: one of those things. But it's cool, like but I

743
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: just have so much more that I want to do

744
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: and accomplished, and I feel like I haven't even scratched

745
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: the surface yet. So I'm really just focusing on, you know,

746
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: the controllables and and I know what kind of sounds cliche,

747
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: but I'm really like that. So we're about only what

748
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: you control is a good thing. But the title the

749
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: next Queen of Band? Why I gotta be just sound dope?

750
00:37:53,520 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: That sound dope dope. You can stay modest as you won't. Um.

751
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: You also work with our brother k D and Rich

752
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: over there boardroom. What's that experience? Like? I love because

753
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: when we played, it wasn't so much about business and basketball,

754
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's just let's hope and then go have phone.

755
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: We're done. Now there's so much attention to detail about

756
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: saving your money and building your own individual brand. Obviously

757
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: teaming up with you know, one of the greatest we've

758
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: ever seen, and then rich as a beautiful genius mind.

759
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: What's it been like working with those two over there.

760
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: It's been amazing. But you know, you're you're right. It's

761
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: like when you're younger and back when you guys played,

762
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: it was just basketball. It wasn't as much like branding

763
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: and investing and figuring out, you know, your brand partners

764
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: and how they have to align with your brand, and

765
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: so now it's it's really evolved, and I kind of

766
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: think I was just thrown into the fire, you know, graduating,

767
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: joining you know, the league number one pick, and it's

768
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: like you're getting all these brands, you know, thrown at you,

769
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: and it's like figuring out, like, Okay, what do I

770
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: want to do, who do I want to partner with?

771
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: And so being able to you know, align with boardroom

772
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: and Kevin being in York and just being able to

773
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: stop by the office and pick his brain and figure

774
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: out all right, we should invest here and here and

775
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: this is why. And also yeah, they're they're really good

776
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: and Riches honestly one of the best that I've been

777
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: able to like witness. Ye talk us about your relationship

778
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry. You mentioned it earlier, you know, being

779
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: a one of Creek girl and and growing up and

780
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: stuff is out that way, which your relationship with him,

781
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: Like I've watched him since I was and when he

782
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: came into the league and so um, you know when

783
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: I was finally able to meet him and then was

784
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: in college and you know, I almost signed with Curry

785
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Rand because of him and our relationship and being able

786
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: to you know, open gym and go to his games

787
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: and have that relationship where I can just pick up

788
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: the phone and call him. You know, when he called

789
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: me right when I got hurt and you know, helped

790
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: me out because he had ankle injuries early on in

791
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: his career too. So um, I mean, what he's doing

792
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: for the game is something you know, we might not

793
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: see him any more times from players and so it's

794
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: it's really cool and I'm just proud of him for

795
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: the player and for the person that he is now,

796
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: he's like the you can create a superstar, Like he's

797
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the one, you know what I mean, Like he's the one,

798
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: and and to be able to handle the pressure and

799
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: continue to live the right way. I mean, obviously Lebron

800
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: did it too, but Steph's kind of like the no

801
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: tattoo the Golden Boy. Yeah, I mean he got tattooed. Yeah.

802
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: They just they're hitting smaller here and yeah they're small

803
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: and hidden. Man shout out the baby face by face.

804
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it is. Yeah. Who are your top

805
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: five players right now today that you tune into male

806
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: or female besides Matt Yeah, are you guys included? Keep

807
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: us out? Keep us out? Uma? Male, male or female?

808
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: Like if there's any o g s you've been to

809
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: Dina Trrossi earlier or NBA guys, who are you checking

810
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: out right now? Oh? So they're still they have to

811
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: be playing. Oh just in general general, this is the

812
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: most controversial questions more. I mean, m J Kobe Kevin

813
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: shocks up there. Um, Diana Trossi is gonna end up

814
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: being probably top five all time, Sue Bird is gonna

815
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: end up being in the in the top five all time.

816
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: So that's my that's my answers, Curry. I mean, actually

817
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: about my favorite female player of all time. We just

818
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: had on the show Don Staley. What do you know

819
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: about Don Staley? Well, obviously we haven't played each other

820
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: in college, so we kind of passed that one. But

821
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: she coached me um a year at USA Basketball, and

822
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I liked I just like her demeanor. She's like quiet

823
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: similar really yeah, she's like quiet, but like very to

824
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the point elite at what she does. Was a great

825
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: player and an even better coach now at what she's doing.

826
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: And so I want to keep like picking her brain

827
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: because she played that point guard position, um in the

828
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Olympic and um, so I'm hopefully going to be able

829
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: to get a better relationship with her. Yeah, best live

830
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: game you've seen. Oh that's a good one. That's a

831
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: good one, you think, rich, Yeah, that's that's a Do

832
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: we believe playoffs? Did you? Oracle? Yeah? And I had

833
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: those court side seats because we're like three per quarters.

834
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: People don't get it. Yes, Oh Billy smelled like Tree. Honestly,

835
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: one of those games when I was younger had to

836
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: be like on just bedrins like all those guys. I

837
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, um predictions were at the halfway point

838
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: in the NBA season. Some teams are still kind of

839
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: find their footing. But who do you see in the

840
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: fine else the Warriors and the Nets. Yeah, a dark

841
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: horse pick outside of those two teams, I would say

842
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: it could be Chicago. Like Chicago, that's a dark Going

843
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: back to Cobe, I think he really shined the light

844
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: on female sports. Um obviously through g and Um the

845
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: growth that's kind of taken on since he's kind of

846
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: put his foot in there, and then it's kind of

847
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: along with the same rise of you kind of coming

848
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: into the w n b A. Do you feel, like

849
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: you said in college, your game started two thousand people

850
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: of game, now it's eleven thousand. Do you feel just

851
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: a growing support behind your guys game these days? I do.

852
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: I definitely do, And it definitely started with him, and

853
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the NBA is really starting

854
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: to transition. I think it's also like these guys are

855
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: starting to have daughters and have sisters, and it's like

856
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Stu got a whole flock of them. Yeah, you know, andball,

857
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: But I think it's important to see, like, you know,

858
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: having those NBA players come to the games with their

859
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: daughters and you know, showing them that it is possible

860
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: to be an elite athlete in play. And he did it,

861
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, just by showing up and and you know,

862
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: representing us and vouching for us, wearing the w n

863
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: b A sweatshirts all the time. And now it's like

864
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: you see football players wearing them and everyone wants them.

865
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: So it's cool to see how he changed that. And

866
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I think it's still changing. There's still so much, you know,

867
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: that needs to be done, but I think it's cool seeing,

868
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: you know, people in power start seeing the appreciation. I

869
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: think a lot of obviously, I think it brought new

870
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: eyes to it, but I think a lot of us

871
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: supported it, but we just didn't support it publicly. And

872
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: not that we're hiding it, but it just wasn't like yeah,

873
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: because I've always watched v NBA, but I just never

874
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think now that like you said, people

875
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: are speaking on it and really showing support is what

876
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of move the needle could? You guys have support,

877
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: But I think him, obviously his presence helps. But then

878
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: like you said, people just and rep in the brand.

879
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's how it grows. So I think we

880
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: got our w n b A s which was last

881
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: year right to do a great job of keeping us

882
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: engaged with the w n B A and the w

883
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: b A players. But Kobe rubbed off on everybody. We

884
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: all got a part of the play and we all

885
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: love the game, and like Don Stanley say, it's basketball

886
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: regards if you man, a man wanted us basketball, so

887
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: we all have the same feeling about the game. Yeah, no,

888
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's and it's the media plays such a

889
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: big part in that too, you know. It's it's we'll

890
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: do something and then someone in the NBA will do

891
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: something similar, but it's like they get all the recognition

892
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: and we don't. And it's like we put up the

893
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: same numbers or even better. And so it was cool

894
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: to see like he didn't do it for the fame

895
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: or he didn't do it to be talked about, but

896
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: he shut a lot of people up about it because

897
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: he showed like, no, this is important and this is

898
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: where I'm going to invest my time in. And I

899
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: think it shut up a lot of haters and kind

900
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: of I was like, oh, yeah, he's right, Like we

901
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: should be paying more attention to this. We understand it

902
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: different though, because we understand what you'll go through. Yeah,

903
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the preparation, you know what I'm saying, being away from

904
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: your family. These as like we understand that party, you

905
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's important to us that

906
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: we look y'all looked at its equal as the NBA

907
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: and the power of social media, how you view it,

908
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know it's powerful. Um, I'm really

909
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: a low key person, so I don't love putting up

910
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff on social media. I know it's

911
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: kind of part of the new age with like do

912
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: your sons have Yeah, you know, so it's like seven Instagram.

913
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: But with that said, you do speak your mind on

914
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: important issues when you need be do. That's one thing

915
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I love about. Yeah, I do. I'll talk to my

916
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: ship when I have to. But yeah, no, it's powerful

917
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: and I think now it's like, you know, when I

918
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: was younger, we didn't we weren't able to really see

919
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: what NBA players are. Like, I wasn't able to see

920
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: what you guys were doing. I was able to see

921
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: what guys are doing on the court when I was

922
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: at the games, but like I wasn't able to be like, Okay,

923
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: this is what he's doing today or whatever. So sometimes

924
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: it's like I try to make sure, like there's a

925
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: seven year old that's watched my Instagram right now, and

926
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: like what do they see? And it's like, all right,

927
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm battling an injury. How am I saying? Positive? What

928
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: am I doing? And you don't really realize sometimes that

929
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: really can change someone's life with what they're dealing with.

930
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: So I really try and you know, stay mindful of

931
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: like I'm a low key person, but also like I

932
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: want to do the best I can and reach people

933
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: in places like Europe and Asia like places that I

934
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: might not be able to like actually be there. And

935
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: then you have to play basketball, like they look up

936
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: to you, and anything you go through, they just correlated

937
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: to their life with the situation that they're dealing with.

938
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: It might even be basketball. Yeah, you know what I

939
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: mean by saying, you get through this ankle injury, and

940
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: it encouraged me to get through what I was going

941
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: through at the time, you know what I mean? That

942
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: means a lot to a lot of people. Can this

943
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Parker talk about her for a second? Is she coming back?

944
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Have you guys heard? Because I would trying to get

945
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: her on the show. She keeps now that you want

946
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: to ring at the crib? We never do you guys,

947
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: do you want to ring? You could go back for

948
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: another year, or you can finish your career on I

949
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: was pushed out the league. What is I think it's fifteen? Ye, yeah,

950
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean she's got what two rings? I would probably

951
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: right off on that high horse, especially because business after

952
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: basketball has already started, you know what I mean. And

953
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: that's what you know. What's fun for me was, you know,

954
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: life after basketball had started before I was finished playing,

955
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: So when the transition I made, it was smooth, you

956
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But obviously each person is different.

957
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: But she's doing her I think obviously she's doing a

958
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: great job outside the space, It's it's cool, and I

959
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: think the hard part is like the competitive nature and

960
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: you of like, I'm still healthy, I can still play,

961
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: and I think that's going to be interesting. But to

962
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: see what she's doing on the court but also off

963
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: the court and just being able to represent the w

964
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: n b A but also a woman on you know,

965
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: on ESPN, on all these shows. It's cool. And I've

966
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: gotten to know her a little bit, you know, through

967
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: Vanessa and through the league and so I'm excited to

968
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: see what she does, but super proud and happy for

969
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: her winning UM back in Chicago and her in her hometown.

970
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: Vicky Hammo was real close to becoming at first NBA

971
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: woman's coach, but she's in in Vegas. Now give me

972
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: your thoughts on her big Am, Yeah, I was. I

973
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: was ready to see her make that jump in the

974
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: n B A. UM. You know, I know it's political,

975
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: I know I know how it works and um, but

976
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you know, I think she said it best.

977
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: The door is not closed. I think you know that

978
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: that door will that will be open, and she might

979
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: be the first one to be able to knock it

980
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: down and we'll get that job. I think she's respected

981
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: through the league, you know, coaching the G League and

982
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: being under pop for for so long. But I think

983
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: it's great for the league to have our league, to

984
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: have someone you know, who's played in it, coached at

985
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: the highest level and then be able to come back

986
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: and kind of like pay it forward for the next

987
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: generation of of players who's wanting to do something similar.

988
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Is I'm excited to see what she does in big

989
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: is just not when they play right right, all right,

990
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: coming down to the end quick hitters. So first thing

991
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: to come to mind, Shoot, you're welcome to the w

992
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: n B. A A moment was I think I got

993
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: my block shot to like my shot block to like

994
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: the third row. Remember who it might have been, Liz Cambidge. Yeah,

995
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, yeah, I gotta get a

996
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: little floater in now I can't make it all the

997
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: way to the basket. That's funny. You Ascar Robinson and

998
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook on the team and the three on three game, right,

999
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: who owns points, rebounds and assists. You can only choose

1000
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: one Peach Mine's assists. Okay, so you're gonna lead in assists.

1001
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: I would say Russell will be easy. Russ I work

1002
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: out with his brother. I got the point. You said,

1003
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: points of Russ and the rebounds would be Oscar. Solid question.

1004
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: The funniest thing that's happened to you recently? That's a

1005
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: good question. No one ever asked that. Yeah, no one

1006
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: ever asks a crazy The funniest thing that's happened to

1007
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: me recently? My brother be saying some funny ships. I

1008
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: mean today, like I was doing pushed ups at PT

1009
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: and he was over there making some comments about how

1010
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I was looking weak and don't make me laugh while

1011
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm doing push ups please, So I would just say that,

1012
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: are you guys so you got still close? As he

1013
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: out here right now? He comes Yeah, he comes out.

1014
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: He just graduated. But yeah, we're we're always really close,

1015
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: even though you twins. He's a big bro. No, he's

1016
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: a little I'm older, but he's like six six so big.

1017
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: He's big. Yeah, so he that was always a year

1018
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: older than me. But I'm a big brother. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1019
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm big broyeh know, he's but he's like you know,

1020
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: when you're like twenty three years four years old. It's

1021
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: like he's so immature still yeah, the time, he can't

1022
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: take the time at the moment right now, I'm like,

1023
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: are you're a child still? Five dinner guests that are alive?

1024
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: Five dinner guests? Can they be my friends at your table?

1025
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: It's my table code? Gee for sure? Um Obama? Nice,

1026
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: um my mom. And then I would say, Tom Brady,

1027
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: that's twelve to have five greatest female athletes up all

1028
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: the time. Excuse me, Oh that's hard. Serena Williams. Have

1029
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: you seen King Richard? No, not yet, but I heard

1030
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 1: it's really good. Really will I would like this really fine?

1031
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I was trying. Yeah, I can do it really good.

1032
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: What gives you whole different perspective on their father becose

1033
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: growing up? Okay, I heard that, so I would say

1034
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: Serena honestly, Naomi, A sock is going to be yes,

1035
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: especially um yeah, And then I think basketball bias. I'm

1036
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: going to go with like Diana, Um, I feel like

1037
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm missing some other sports, so I'm trying to think

1038
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: about track track soccer. Um. I'm going with those three

1039
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: because I don't want to say I don't want to

1040
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: miss out on someone that I know is there? Yeah? Yeah?

1041
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: What's three artists? Songs? Are you having your rotation right now?

1042
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: Are you listening to break his new album that's Jack

1043
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Jack Star. Yeah, I still listen to but I'm on

1044
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: the shuffle of like twenty like top hits, so it's

1045
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: like him pop smoke, um a sap, like just whatever

1046
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: whatever is getting me going for my workouts. Three shows

1047
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: you currently binge watch? I'm literally not watching any show NBA, TV, ESPN. Yes,

1048
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: I love it. If you could have a guest on

1049
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: our show, who would it be? But before you answer it,

1050
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: but you have to help us get your answer on

1051
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: this show. And I got good with answering that question.

1052
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: I used to struggle with it at first. I would

1053
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: say they're a good ring level m second, I think

1054
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: Steve Nash. We have Steven we had Okay, that was remote?

1055
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah did you was it good? And I love Steve

1056
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Nash because he's one of the only people on this

1057
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: earth that still has George Floyd as his profile and

1058
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: his profile pick on his Instagram. Oh yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: he does? You know? That was my guy? I love that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So not Steve Nash is canceled. Yeah, we had him already.

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Speaker 1: Give us somebody else and I have to help, so

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Speaker 1: I have to know them. There you going all right?

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Speaker 1: Let me think? All right, Naomi Oskker God, I love

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Speaker 1: her too. We'll take her ding ding ding first press

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Speaker 1: conference for George Floyd, Her and Carday were in the

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Speaker 1: audience and nobody knew and they just stood there regular

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Speaker 1: like everybody else, no security and that, and it was

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Speaker 1: like three thousand people out there and they were just

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Speaker 1: standing there like regular people. So shout out to her. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we would love to have her on the show. Cardy

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Speaker 1: just dropped a new album too, I got an album coming,

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Speaker 1: got picked it up. Check them out. Well before you

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Speaker 1: get going, we wanted to give you a little you

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Speaker 1: got to smoke. We gotta see what mom, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. We appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck, get healthy. We want to see you

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Speaker 1: all the way healthy next year. We feel good when

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Speaker 1: we see the grates and all the smoker we've seen

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Speaker 1: Draymond and the rest of those guys wear to the game.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you in it, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, So I can repost it. Reposted that. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a wrap, Sabrina Unesco, I did it. You can

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Speaker 1: catch this on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the I Heart

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Speaker 1: platform Black Effects. We'll see you all next week. And

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Speaker 1: this is all a smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime