WEBVTT - Draft Show: 2018 Review & Who to Watch in 2019 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:05.880 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.720 on the our war room for in center news and 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:13.000 draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.600 at the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikiel Elliott, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.560 and now your hosts Dame Brugler, David Hellman and Brian 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.800 brought us well. Well, well, welcome back to the Draft 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.880 Show here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. As the Big 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.200 Boys guy says, you've got Brian brought us here along 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.120 want scouting buddies. Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Hey, Brian, gentlemen, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.440 welcome back. I've got to get you off the road 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.240 for a little bit and uh talk a little since 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:43.720 we have a bye week here. It's kind of a 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.080 tradition that we have here with the Draft Show of 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.159 putting something out for you just kind of gets you 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.720 some names, some thoughts. You know, the Cowboys are in 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.440 a situation right now where we've we've you know, they've 0:00:55.440 --> 0:01:00.200 made a trade. Yeah, so now it's really about you know, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.080 no first round pick, But that doesn't deter what we 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.120 do on the Draft Show because now, to me, guys, 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.440 it's about really having to dig in you know, not 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.480 that the Draft Show doesn't dig in, but it's now 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.600 it's about really digging in and and and and and 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:21.000 finding names and you know, thinking of creative ways to 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.759 get back in, take the players there in the second 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.040 round or whatever you have to do. I think this 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.480 is gonna be honestly, I think it's gonna make the 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.720 draft show him better. I think it's gonna make us 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.520 tougher to have to come up with with a lot 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.479 of different names, a lot of different ideas. But that's 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.640 what the Draft show is all about. Yeah, I right 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.800 about that, David him, Well, it's I think I agree 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.920 with the premise of what you're saying. But basically, you 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.199 just gotta rethrink your strategy. Yeah, you gotta reading because 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:47.680 you know what, this is the third or fourth year 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.560 we've done the bye week Draft Show, and you know, 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.200 you look back at last year and then you talk 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.960 about big time prospects for next year. But this year 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.840 that's Amari Cooper now, and you spent that first round pick, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.960 and so it's your whole strategy. I mean, are you 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.280 still thinking about wide receiver as a need? Probably not, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.919 probably not early? What is a need? What is what 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.679 can you realistically get with your second and third round picks. Yeah, 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.959 where's the class deep? Because of all of a sudden, 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.760 that's even more important than it usually is. Uh. If 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.400 you can't use a first round pick on a guy, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.840 so uh, it turned my whole world upside down. And 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.960 I'm excited change the way we think about it. Yeah, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.760 I'm excited about because to me it I just want 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.120 I want to be tougher. I want to make you know, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:30.960 I want the draft show. So you're gonna do like 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.080 eight hundred names like Dane now or Yeah, you know 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.239 that's what I want to do. We're starting already. Yeah, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.200 he and I've already we've already started cracking us. By 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.440 the way, there's a defensive tackle Alabama. Well do you 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.840 like this guy at Houston? This guy at Alabama is 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.400 better Quinnon William Yes, yeah, yeah, if you like, If 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:51.320 you like Oliver trust, so, how are we gonna get him? Yeah? 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.880 That's well, you know you got to talk about these cats. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.680 We will. Yeah, we know. To me, if you ask me, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.760 I think the draft is even more important now for 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.920 the Cowboys. Yeah, you cannot miss on these second and 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.000 third round picks. You can't. Absolutely when draft weekend comes 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.600 around and listen, nothing's changes for the Cowboys. Scouts changes 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.320 and keep great players. I mean, does end changed for us? 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.440 Because when you know you trade for a Maori Cooper, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.440 you know part of that goes back to your value 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.200 in two thousand? Uh was it fifteen? Yeah, they knew 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.079 they had no shot out of Maury Cooper, you know that, right, right, So, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.600 but they still did their due diligence and that played 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.440 into you know, now him being a Cowboy. So they're 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.360 still doing no due diligence on all these players. And 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.080 you ever know they might have a top ten pick 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.280 on a player that falls to pick twenty seven, maybe 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.280 you think about moving up. You'll get him a Noah 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.080 fan from Iowa. Tight end, you know, one of these guys. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.560 So look at him, look at We'll be talking about 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.480 is he Is he better than George Kittle? He's in 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.400 He's an Evin Ingram type. You know, he's more of 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.560 a wide out than a Cowboys don't want him. Cowboys 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.760 don't want to get him out here. You want to 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.200 around DAC with guys that can play. Yeah, no a 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:07.440 fan can play. Yeah. So I'm tight Ends aren't bad man, 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.480 don't be looking at me. I mean, I mean I was. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.680 I was watching some tight ends with him today. I'm 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.960 just making a joke about how cowboys need their tight 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.160 ends to block I know you're right about that. Hey. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.839 By the way, guys, I want to also welcome on 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.800 board once again our friends at Miller at Miller lte Man. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.760 You know that they're always going to be a sponsor 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.680 the Draft Show and we do appreciate them. And as also, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.039 I also want to say I appreciate Kent Garrison for 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.480 once again getting us on board. Kent, and we're doing 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.400 all right today. They're start doing great. Great to be 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.560 back for ever year of exciting draft. Well that's it. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.360 And if we have to as we go along in 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.000 the Draft Show, if we take some calls, I just 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.400 ask you one thing, Please be nice to Kent, you know, 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.920 if we take the calls eight eight eight eight five 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.200 five two two ninety seven. Again we're from the SWBC 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.080 Mortgage Studios. As always, guys and gals, we're doing great 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.360 out there. If you're new to the Draft Show, welcome. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.200 We were so happy to have you with you with 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.360 us here and and as you can tell, we're all 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.479 very excited about talking about the draft, and here we 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.440 are in the end of October. By the time we 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.440 get this thing really cranking here in January, this will 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.640 be full on get ready for twice a week likely on. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.120 Still we're going twice a week without a first round pick, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.520 you know what. And that's and thank Derek Eagleton for that. Yeah, 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.560 thank you. Okay, listen, I just wanna, Okay, I'm gonna 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.560 go back. I'm gonna go back a little bit here 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.960 in this draft. I'm gonna go back in the last 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.280 draft we had, and there were some guys that we 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.200 talked about, and I want to give everybody an opportunity 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.880 to maybe talk about a guy or two that they 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.800 you know, that we kind of thought, hey, this guy, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.760 we really really like this guy, and either A he's 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.359 playing well and you know, or B he's a guy that, 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.160 you know what, we kind of need to see. Maybe 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.880 I was a little bit too high on him. Maybe 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.360 I felt like that this was a guy that uh, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.880 you know, that that I saw saw opportunity to grab 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.719 and that he was going to be a difference maker. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.919 And and you know, and I'm gonna run I'll just 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.279 I'll run through a couple of guys and if I could. Yeah, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.279 I think that we talk about guys at the top 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.520 of the board. And I know, Dane, you were really 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.039 really high on se Quon Barkley. You were really high 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.320 on a top five player in this draw, absolutely top 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.960 five player in the job. How about Denzel Award, another 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.200 top five player in this Okay, there you go. Yeah, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.719 Now we're kind of talking about little players, nice little players. Okay, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.720 these that's the top of the draft right there. So 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.800 you know, I think the Browns and John Dorsey have 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.160 been vindicated a little bit. Bradley Chubb's come on, That's 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.680 what I was gonna ask. I was gonna get to. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.800 I was gonna get to Bradley Chubb and what we 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.040 talked to so far fifteen solo tackle, six and a 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.040 half sacks, Yeah, and I think those six of those 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.400 sacks have come in the last two three weeks. Yeah. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.280 So he's the Broncos moving to sam linebacker in their scheme, 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.120 and so there's a little bit of a transition there, 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.080 and he's he's coming around. He's playing better the last 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.359 few weeks. But Denzel Award, and I said, I remember 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.520 sitting here when the pick was made on our draft show, coverage, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.400 and there's some questions about it if they were really 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.480 gonna take him. Yeah, well many because everybody was thinking 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.680 he was gonna take Chup at the moment they drafted him. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.120 He was the best corner on the Browns roster. Yeah, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.920 and he's played like it. He's had play. He is 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.560 absolutely played like that. Then, is not just the three interceptions, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.960 but just also the coverage. Uh, you know what he's 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.040 doing on a snapped to snap basis. He is ready 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.680 right right away, which is exactly what they needed. And 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.240 to me, I think he is. He's right in that 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.640 conversation to be a front runner for the defensive Rookie 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.880 of the Year. Yeah, and that well, that's and obviously, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.520 you know, credit to credit to the Cowboys and not 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.880 that we were I don't. I wouldn't say we were 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.080 wrong about Layden vander Esh but I also think it's 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.920 fair to say we questioned had some questions about Lady. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.320 I want to get to that too as well. No, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.360 and we absolutely can't. My point being, I think the 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 three names that are going around for defensive Rookie of 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.440 the Year. You hear Ward a lot, yeah, Derwin James 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.440 a lot. Ye, another guy we love. That's exactly who 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.640 I'm gonna get to as we go down the sport Chubb. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.840 It's coming on. But you know, people, and Layton vander 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.440 Esch has played at a level like that, but he's 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.240 not getting interceptions, which is how you win awards like that, 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.840 which that just shows how impressive Denzel Ward has been 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.440 that he's managed to do that, you know, halfway through 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.960 his rookie season. All right, let's talk a little bit 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.880 about Laton vander Oh, I'll tell you what. Then let's 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.120 let's talk excuse me with Derwyn Derwin James. Now, see 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.680 Derwyn James gets all the way down to seventeen with 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.960 the with the Los Angeles Chargers there, and I think 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.040 we were still I was, I was a I know, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.760 at least they didn't pass on him. Its true, you're right, Yeah, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.040 you're right, You're right, they didn't pass on him. Yeah no, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.320 But but it could have been a trade up situation 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.240 could have been. Okay, now compare the two who's who 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.120 would have? Who do you think? Who do you think 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.000 just crystal ball this thing? Well, but you get to 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.680 also include, okay, would you rather have Layton Van Dress 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:39.040 and Michael Gallop that's yeah, and that's I'm not I'm 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.839 not going to even attempt to criticize our second guest speak. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.240 I love Derwin James, and he's playing like the guy 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.520 that we thought he was. But the Cowboys appear to 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.199 have an heir to Sean Lee. He's already playing. That's 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.280 more important than anything right now. He's already playing like it. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.880 The safeties have not been great this year for the Cowboys. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.240 They've given up two or three play touchdowns, but they 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.280 have not crippled this defense. I mean, the defense is 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.959 still top ten in the league. Guys got three and 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:14.680 a half sacks, which James yeah, yeah, no, he's got two. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.600 He's a stud. Yeah, but I'm just saying it. But 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.160 you've got it, Okay, you're saying they made the right choice. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.400 I really think they did. By not giving up something 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.200 and going up a couple of spots, they did the 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.320 right choice. And it's fun. It's fun that we're doing 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.160 this now because if we if we did this in 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.240 week two, we'd be like, oh, Michael Gallup, was that 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.000 a good call? But his arrow is trending upward. He 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.440 played very well against the Red School. I'm gonna get 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.079 to that so it's hard to sit here right now 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.800 and really question it. Even if Derwin James is good. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.760 The Cowboys, I think are fine. They shouldn't have, you know, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.720 any buyer's remorse there. But you look at a team 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.800 like the Bucks who took dat and you know what, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.720 I give you full credit because you were not on 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.000 the Vita Vea train. Well I'm not. You know, it's 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.360 still early, but still, you know, Okay, if I'm gonna, 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.400 if I'm gonna take a defensive tackle that early, he 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.280 better give me some pass rush value. And I just 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.280 don't see Vita Vea doing that. And he struggled to 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.040 get on the field. Ye, but yeah, I thought that 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.640 was the perfect landing spot for Derwin James, and they 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.840 went with the big defensive tackle, and I think the 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.280 Bucks are having a little bit of buyer's remorse now. Yeah, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.719 I think you're right about that too. Guys want to 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.600 talk about two we go down the board here? Okay, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.400 here's here's where's a little bit of a sticking point 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.280 for us on the draft show was between DJ Moore 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.760 and then Calvin Ridley. Yeah, and I mean presidents of 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.160 the DJ Moore fan club, right, yeah, Oh, I no 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.160 trust me. I was. I was helping you guys get 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.640 along the road of doing that. They were I think 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.839 eleven and fourteen on my board, so I thought both 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.120 were top fifteen picks. Yeah, I was a fan of Buck. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.280 Calvin Ridley was eleven. DJ Moore was fourteen, So I 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.080 had it flipped. But how much? And it just goes 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.400 to show and not criticizing players, so to speak, But 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.280 like fit is so important. Oh yeah, Calvin Ridley is 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.720 stepping in as the third receiver in one of the 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.080 most explosive offenses in the NFL, with twenty seven receptions 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.800 for three ninety six and six touchdowns, three of which 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.839 can him in one game. And then DJ Moore you 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.679 got I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey's a nice player, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:10.040 but you got Cam Newton and then so I think 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.800 there's a little more a little more attention being paid 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.960 to DJ Moore. But yeah, I think thirteen catches for 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.640 one hundred and ninety one yards I believe, Yeah, had 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.200 a costly fumble in one game if I remember right too. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.040 All right, here we go, the guy's going down in 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.000 the first round. Do we over evaluate Marcus Davenport with 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.520 the Saints. No, I think it's just gonna take time 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.360 with him. I mean, he coming from UTSA, he would 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.400 like I don't think he was worth what the Saints 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.640 gave up to get him. I mean because yeah, two 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.520 first round picks basically, yeah, But I still I think 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.520 Davenport was a top fifteen pick in that draft. So 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.079 I had no problem with where he went. But it's 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.240 going to take some time because he's still figuring things 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.040 out how to use his hand. If you see flashes 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.240 with the Saints, it's just it's not all there yet. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.360 But I think, you know, by year two, it will 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.400 be much closer than how we see things through you know, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.960 the first half of the season, which and well, again 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.400 it circumstances or everything though, because when you give up 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.840 that kind of capital to get a guy, you probably 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.320 expect a little bit more than that. But I don't 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.079 know how really, It's just it's unfair to the player, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.800 which and we talked for four months about how raw 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.400 he is. Yeah, and so he's got he got two 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.240 sacks through six games. I mean, I don't five tackles. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.560 I mean, that's not good. But yeah, they pay him 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.679 to get sacks, right, I'm just what I'm saying though 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.440 he has more sacks than him right now, Yeah, that 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.959 ain't great. That ain't great. How about Shot Penny at 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.560 Seattle at one twenty seven. That was a head scratcher 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:32.880 when the move was made. You know, it just we 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.640 I don't think anybody thought he was a first round 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.200 pick in this room. No, Brian y'all had him in 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.240 the third, third round, Yeah, exactly. And I don't know, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.560 I mean, injuries have been an issue with him. Chris 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.240 Carson's playing better in Seattle. I don't know. It just 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.360 that was a confusing pick. Then it's a confusing pick now. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.920 I think that's another team that would like a do 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.000 over there. How about how about Kevin Bryant from Jacksonville. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.400 Didn't see a lot of him when we played the 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.120 Jags a couple weeks ago. Tackles, Yeah, and I think 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.120 that's more of a case of that they got a 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.599 good defensive line. But he's part of the rotation. No, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.120 he's not getting enough snaps to really maximize what he's 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.280 what he can do. But yeah, that's another guy that's 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.319 gonna need some time. Second round. Darius Leonard, Oh, I 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.040 knew you were going to bring him up. I think 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.679 he's definitely one of the player fifty four tackles and 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.400 four sacks, those of fifty four solo tackles. Him and 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.880 Frank Ragnow are the two players that I think have 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.680 far exceeded my expectations based on what they showed in 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.000 college and how we projected them forward. Credit to them 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.920 because they're playing much better than I thought they could. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.960 And Darius Leonard, he's right there in the mix to 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.240 be defensive Rookie of the Year with what he's been 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.160 so important for that Colts defense. You know, we talk 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.840 about uh Eberflus with defensive coordinator up there, former Cowboys assistant, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.920 how important the middle linebacker is to that defense. And 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.320 he stepped in from day one and he's played a 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.240 huge part for Annapolis. So I think they didn't have 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.680 him high enough the third round. Yeah, you loved him though, 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.120 I know, and I had him in the third round, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.360 and I talked about him a lot and I had 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.160 him in the third Nuns just a coward move on 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.200 my part. Happy, Oh, I don't be so hard herself. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.600 How about this? How about this next guy? Then? Karen Johnson, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.000 the running back from you, talked about him as a 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.880 potential first round. Guy gave him a late first early 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:26.000 second round grade. Here you go, he's outplayed every running 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.360 back in front of him as a four sequon. Yeah, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.680 sixty nine carries for four hundred and forty four yards, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.920 one touchdown, fifteen receptions for eighty nine yards for him. Sorry, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.160 the Lions killed it, I thought him in the second 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.040 and then DeShawn Hand in the fourth. Yeah, DeShawn in hand. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.560 I gave him a second round grade. I'd love DeShawn 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.920 Hand and he's playing outstanding as a rookie. Just a 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.920 steal in the fourth round. DeShawn Hand almost beat the 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.240 Cowboys on his own. Yeah, he was the guy that 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.600 strap stripped back on that play. Yeah, and then carry on, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.840 Johnson only getting nine carries in that game. It was 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.080 a miracle that they're finally smarten though. He got twenty 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.320 plus touches for the first time against Miami. Yeah, so 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.120 they're doing that. They're finally smarten enough and realize, I mean, yes, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.560 you have Matt Stafford, You've got targets to throw to 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.440 give you your running game a little bit of help, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.160 and they're not gonna let you down. I got some 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.040 guys going down here. Ronald Jones at Tampa Bay two 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.240 thirty eight, and I was way high on Ronald Joe. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.040 I liked him a lot. And how could you not 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.920 be with the USC tape that he put together, you know, 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.040 I just as a player, he's a fun guy to watch. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:29.360 I mean, if you look at it, I had him 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:34.000 above carry on Johnson? Am I wrong? And you know 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.680 I'm so dialed in on the Cowboys? But like he's 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.080 been a healthy scratch for at least a game or two, right, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.640 he hasn't been good. His numbers are seventeen carries for 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.440 forty five yards. Some guys they're not ready to be professionals, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.480 and I think that's the case Jones. It's not like 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.760 he's not not talented. Of course, he's talented, but he 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.640 has to adapt to a more professional demeanor and do 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.640 what the coaches ask of him, and so far he 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.360 just hasn't been able to do that. How about this guy, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.640 Harold Landry. I was hoping you were gonna bring him 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.320 up because we're gonna get to see him when the 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.880 seven tackles one sack for the you know, and here's 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.360 a guy if you look at again, how my board 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.280 was facing. I had hint I had Chubb, Landry and 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.640 Davenport as my right end guys. And that's the order 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.880 I had, I believe. I remember saying I would take 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.400 him at nineteen, which I mean he fell away further 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.320 than that. Actually, yeah he did. He fell all the 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:28.040 way down to sixteen tackles in a sack. I think 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.880 he actually well, yeah, seven solos one sack is what 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.200 he's got so far. I had chubbed Davenport and then Landry, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.320 but I still thought Landry was a top fifteen caliber player. Yeah, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.960 so he's gonna be. Isn't interesting to watch him and 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.200 see how he develops throughout the season because curious how 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.960 he fell as far as he did. The guy the 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.640 tackles here in Dallas have struggled, So yeah, something to 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.400 watch A guy, A guy who I was high on 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.880 was this Dante Pettis out of Washington. I know you 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.280 had your concerns about him, Dane, but see, and that 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.040 was a perfect example of a guy that went to 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.360 the deal situation. The ideal law offense. Uh now hasn't 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.280 really played all that well well, and I'm part of 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.080 that's his quarterback going down season ending injury, Garoppolo, So 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.040 you know that that obviously hurts, but I thought he 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.000 went to a good situation. I think he's he's set 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.359 up well to have some success in San Francisco. Okay, 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.679 all this now, where do you feel like with Connor Williams. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.400 How do you feel like Connor Williams is in relation 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.520 to what the what we've kind of talked about so 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.200 far these guys, and I mean, people want he pretty 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.320 much just been flatline right now? Or is it? Uh? 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.440 I think he's been fine. I don't want you probably, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.280 I guess you're not going to rave about him. Right 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.120 He's not gonna make the Pro Bowl as a rookie. 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.720 But again, you know, go back and listen to what 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.360 we said about the guy. I think everything that's happening 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.879 is pretty much in line with y'all's scouting report. Like 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.119 he struggles with power, he's got to adapt to the 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.200 strength of the NFL game. But and I'll I'll say 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.600 this till I'm blue in the face. He's played well 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.320 more often than he's played BADR was playing a new 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.400 position too. Yeah that and yeah, I mean he's moving 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.840 inside and somebody, uh it was probably I think it 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.199 was on my show. Derek was like, well, you know, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.800 he's not picking it up as quick as Zack Martin is, Like, well, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.080 let's pick six, pick sixteen, verse pick fifty, different player 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.719 though too different player with as far as the power 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.560 of stuff, and that the top of that twenty fourteen 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.960 draft is something else. I don't know how often y'all 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.640 go back and look at that, but Zack Martin would 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.440 have been drafted higher in what was already a loaded draft. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:32.360 Was Becke Buckham and Aaron Donald Jawn. Yeah. Yeah, that's 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.400 a nice collection and talent. But I mean, am I wrong? 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.880 Like I'm not disappointed in the Connor Williams pick at all. No, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.760 not at all, not at all. I'm gonna go through. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.920 I'm gonna bounce into the third round real quick. Here. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.720