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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the our war room for in center news and

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Speaker 1: draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Ezikiel Elliott,

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Speaker 1: and now your hosts Dame Brugler, David Hellman and Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us well. Well, well, welcome back to the Draft

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Speaker 1: Show here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. As the Big

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Speaker 1: Boys guy says, you've got Brian brought us here along

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Speaker 1: want scouting buddies. Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Hey, Brian, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I've got to get you off the road

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Speaker 1: for a little bit and uh talk a little since

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Speaker 1: we have a bye week here. It's kind of a

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Speaker 1: tradition that we have here with the Draft Show of

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Speaker 1: putting something out for you just kind of gets you

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Speaker 1: some names, some thoughts. You know, the Cowboys are in

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Speaker 1: a situation right now where we've we've you know, they've

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Speaker 1: made a trade. Yeah, so now it's really about you know,

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Speaker 1: no first round pick, But that doesn't deter what we

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Speaker 1: do on the Draft Show because now, to me, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's about really having to dig in you know, not

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Speaker 1: that the Draft Show doesn't dig in, but it's now

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Speaker 1: it's about really digging in and and and and and

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Speaker 1: finding names and you know, thinking of creative ways to

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Speaker 1: get back in, take the players there in the second

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Speaker 1: round or whatever you have to do. I think this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be honestly, I think it's gonna make the

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Speaker 1: draft show him better. I think it's gonna make us

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Speaker 1: tougher to have to come up with with a lot

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Speaker 1: of different names, a lot of different ideas. But that's

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Speaker 1: what the Draft show is all about. Yeah, I right

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Speaker 1: about that, David him, Well, it's I think I agree

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Speaker 1: with the premise of what you're saying. But basically, you

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Speaker 1: just gotta rethrink your strategy. Yeah, you gotta reading because

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Speaker 1: you know what, this is the third or fourth year

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Speaker 1: we've done the bye week Draft Show, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you look back at last year and then you talk

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Speaker 1: about big time prospects for next year. But this year

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Speaker 1: that's Amari Cooper now, and you spent that first round pick,

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Speaker 1: and so it's your whole strategy. I mean, are you

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Speaker 1: still thinking about wide receiver as a need? Probably not,

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Speaker 1: probably not early? What is a need? What is what

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Speaker 1: can you realistically get with your second and third round picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where's the class deep? Because of all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: that's even more important than it usually is. Uh. If

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Speaker 1: you can't use a first round pick on a guy,

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Speaker 1: so uh, it turned my whole world upside down. And

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Speaker 1: I'm excited change the way we think about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about because to me it I just want

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Speaker 1: I want to be tougher. I want to make you know,

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Speaker 1: I want the draft show. So you're gonna do like

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Speaker 1: eight hundred names like Dane now or Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. We're starting already. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he and I've already we've already started cracking us. By

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Speaker 1: the way, there's a defensive tackle Alabama. Well do you

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Speaker 1: like this guy at Houston? This guy at Alabama is

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Speaker 1: better Quinnon William Yes, yeah, yeah, if you like, If

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Speaker 1: you like Oliver trust, so, how are we gonna get him? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's well, you know you got to talk about these cats.

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Speaker 1: We will. Yeah, we know. To me, if you ask me,

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Speaker 1: I think the draft is even more important now for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, you cannot miss on these second and

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Speaker 1: and keep great players. I mean, does end changed for us?

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Speaker 1: Because when you know you trade for a Maori Cooper,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand? Uh was it fifteen? Yeah, they knew

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Speaker 1: they had no shot out of Maury Cooper, you know that, right, right, So,

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Speaker 1: but they still did their due diligence and that played

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Speaker 1: still doing no due diligence on all these players. And

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Speaker 1: you ever know they might have a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: on a player that falls to pick twenty seven, maybe

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Speaker 1: you think about moving up. You'll get him a Noah

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Speaker 1: just making a joke about how cowboys need their tight

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Speaker 1: once again getting us on board. Kent, and we're doing

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Speaker 1: back for ever year of exciting draft. Well that's it.

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Speaker 1: out there. If you're new to the Draft Show, welcome.

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Speaker 1: We were so happy to have you with you with

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Speaker 1: us here and and as you can tell, we're all

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Speaker 1: very excited about talking about the draft, and here we

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Speaker 1: Still we're going twice a week without a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: It's coming on. But you know, people, and Layton vander

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Speaker 1: about Laton vander Oh, I'll tell you what. Then let's

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Speaker 1: just crystal ball this thing? Well, but you get to

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Speaker 1: also include, okay, would you rather have Layton Van Dress

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Speaker 1: I love Derwin James, and he's playing like the guy

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Speaker 1: that we thought he was. But the Cowboys appear to

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Speaker 1: have an heir to Sean Lee. He's already playing. That's

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Speaker 1: more important than anything right now. He's already playing like it.

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Speaker 1: The safeties have not been great this year for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: They've given up two or three play touchdowns, but they

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Speaker 1: have not crippled this defense. I mean, the defense is

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Speaker 1: still top ten in the league. Guys got three and

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Speaker 1: a half sacks, which James yeah, yeah, no, he's got two.

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Speaker 1: He's a stud. Yeah, but I'm just saying it. But

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Speaker 1: you've got it, Okay, you're saying they made the right choice.

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Speaker 1: I really think they did. By not giving up something

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Speaker 1: week two, we'd be like, oh, Michael Gallup, was that

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Speaker 1: to that so it's hard to sit here right now

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Speaker 1: and really question it. Even if Derwin James is good.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys, I think are fine. They shouldn't have, you know,

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Speaker 1: any buyer's remorse there. But you look at a team

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Speaker 1: like the Bucks who took dat and you know what,

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Speaker 1: gonna need some time. Second round. Darius Leonard, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: How about this? How about this next guy? Then? Karen Johnson,

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Speaker 1: How do you feel like Connor Williams is in relation

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Speaker 1: nine yards, one touchdown. They need to get him the

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Speaker 1: ball more, don't they? David. I mean if I if

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Speaker 1: like I said, if we'd had this show three weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: I would have been like, does he deserve the ball more?

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Speaker 1: Like he? You know, uh, miscus against Carolina, missqu against

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Speaker 1: Giants on what could have been a big gain. So

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Speaker 1: it was a rough start for him. But this is

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Speaker 1: could be big for him. Yeah. Well, wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: historically one of the positions it takes the longest to

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Speaker 1: not used to facing six foot corners who run faster

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Speaker 1: than you. Right, you know how many of those guys

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Speaker 1: did Michael Gallant face in the Mountain West, And so

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Speaker 1: takes time. What if Marie Cooper did as a as

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Speaker 1: mean Odell Beckham did it his rookie It's not normal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, look at twenty seventeen, the three wide

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams, and John Ross. None of the three. Check them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: check this out, guys. I'd actually did a deep dive

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Speaker 1: on this for a column I wrote about the Cooper trade.

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Speaker 1: I went back and looked every receiver drafted since twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: I looked at their production. I just I just said

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Speaker 1: an arbitrary baseline of like sixty catches a thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two receivers drafted, forty nine of them

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Speaker 1: have hit that mark at some point in their career.

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Speaker 1: Only thirty one did it within the first two years

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Speaker 1: Of those thirty one, thirteen of them were first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I think four of them were second round picks, and

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Speaker 1: only three of them were third round picks. Like the

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Speaker 1: the first round and the odds that you're getting that

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Speaker 1: have the number of receivers that were actually hiking in

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Speaker 1: the first round? Twenty nine? So thirteen of twenty nine

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Speaker 1: thirteen of twenty, not even half, and then in the

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Speaker 1: second round it's like four out of thirty. I think,

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Speaker 1: so if you're the cowboy, then in the third round

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Speaker 1: it's three out of forty or something. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: so that you need the cowboys. You're looking at this, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at those You're looking at those

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Speaker 1: statistics and saying which I think, Yeah, so it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprising that if Gallup needs time to do that.

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Speaker 1: But then on top of that, we've heard Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: say at fifty times this week. Is that's why they

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Speaker 1: were interested in Amari Cooper is in their mind at least.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to that too, but we gotta we

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Speaker 1: got to see him do it. But they're hopefully he

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Speaker 1: doesn't need that learning curve because he's already done it,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to even to Dane's point, you draft a

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Speaker 1: guy in the first round, there's still only a forty

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Speaker 1: percent chance that he actually does what you want him to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that. We're gonna get into some wide

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Speaker 1: receivers here at the end. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: some guys to look at. Okay, just a real quick

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Speaker 1: here too, before we get out of here for a

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Speaker 1: break for real quick. I just want to point out

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Speaker 1: some guys. The Houston Texans took that key Ki Kuti

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Speaker 1: fourth round, one oh three. I think I was really

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Speaker 1: him right. He was a slot only guy who was

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Speaker 1: playing wellness lot for Houston. I mean, yeah, they're not

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Speaker 1: using him the way he would be used here. No

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Speaker 1: where he was taken go into the fifth round. Maurice Hurst,

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Speaker 1: has it really played very well in Oakland? You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about him, I had anybody in. I said,

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Speaker 1: it's so hard to evaluate anything going on with Oakland

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Speaker 1: right now. Chaquem Griffin another one in Seattle. Only three tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. Yeah, And I talk about then I go in,

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Speaker 1: maybe a guy that JENNARDA. Avery, the kid from Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I kind of had him as a guy. I had

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Speaker 1: him in that mix of linebackers with with with let's

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Speaker 1: see Smith, Edmonds, Griffin, Jefferson Warner, and then let me

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Speaker 1: look in the inside, let me look at inside backers.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Vander Esh, Jewel, Avery, Leonard were the guys

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Speaker 1: I kind of had there. They're all kind of everybody's

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Speaker 1: Avery can discussion is fascinating to me because I gave

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Speaker 1: him a fifth round grade. I was law on him,

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Speaker 1: and I went back, and he's playing well for the Browns.

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Speaker 1: I went back and read my report and I was, Okay,

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Speaker 1: wrote better than you talk about him. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: I nailed him. My report, I thought was exactly what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing with Cleveland the So I thought the evaluation

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Speaker 1: you know, because I mean I was groomed all along

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Speaker 1: that you know, top one hundred, pick those me to

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Speaker 1: be your starters first three rounds. Sure, but Avery, because

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Speaker 1: he's not a starter for the Browns. No, he's coming

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Speaker 1: off the bench as a nickel rusher. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's and that's what he's I mean, So I think

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Speaker 1: that's probably what he's always going to be because he's

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Speaker 1: not a very good run defender. I don't like him

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Speaker 1: So I thought I got my evaluation right on him.

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Speaker 1: It's the valuation that I thought, that's where I was off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that's sometimes that happens to you though.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that's I've written. I've written players before

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is not a fourth round I

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Speaker 1: Hearne for another year, Herns for another year. Hard to imagine.

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00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams has not no, he no, hard to imagine that. Um,

634
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: who am I? Deante Thompson's a free agent? Yeah? Uh,

635
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Lance Lenore, Cedric Wilson got hurt. Wilson got hurt in

636
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: the in the preseason. That's a good catch game. So yeah,

637
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: So to me, I'm just kind of looking at this

638
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: some some people probably say, oh, we'll quarterback, but you

639
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: know you got Mike White. We've talked about Mike White

640
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: a bunch. Let's I mean, we don't have to spend

641
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot of time the decision to trade for Cooper. Yeah,

642
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's or starter in twenty nineteen. Yeah, I mean

643
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I don't I don't disagree with

644
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: you there. I don't know what else you would do. Okay,

645
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: but that's am I right? With the first two? Then

646
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: where do you way receive? Like you need depth? Put three,

647
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: I put it three. You put it at three. I

648
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: put it three, I put I put put tight in

649
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: safety and all right? And then wide receiver? Where three?

650
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Where was wide receiver before the Amari Cooper trade. One. Yeah, one,

651
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: So now adding Amark Cooper is only knocked it down

652
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: to three then for you. Yeah, okay, now, let me'll

653
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: tell me this again. In your top thirty two, you

654
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: have one wide receiver? Am I right about that? You

655
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: have two? A J. Brown's number twenty ole mis ole

656
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: miss and then Hollywood Browns thirty two. Okay, which don't

657
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: ask what the natural question is because we're gonna get

658
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: to that and okay, but okay, defensive tackle worries me

659
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: because David Irving, who knows. I think David Irman's gone.

660
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, well, okay, that's a starter. Right.

661
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: Are you gonna pay to Marcus Lawrence? I think they are.

662
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah. I give them a little bit

663
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: of help with a guy in the middle who's gonna

664
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: take some pressure off on him on the edge. That

665
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: might be your second round. Guy. I hate to say this,

666
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: and this is this is a thing the Cowboys are

667
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: going to have to figure out. But like, I'm curious

668
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: about the center position. But that is not that is

669
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: that is a great point and you don't even think

670
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: about because Travis Frederick for so many years has just

671
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: lined up and played Joe Looney's under contract for next year.

672
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: That's right, but it's I mean, you got to think

673
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: about that. And I hate to say it because I'm

674
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: pulling for Travis Frederick and that's it's not fair what

675
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: happened to him. But that's the reality. Yeah, Um, okay, well,

676
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: which okay, Dana, real quick, Davis. Everybody's a periscope right now.

677
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys. Everybody's firing questions in there

678
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: on periscope and if you say any I know I

679
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: will thank you though for doing this. Thank you for

680
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: playing along with us. We appreciate that, Aaron says, and

681
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: guests in big time here. Aaron says, you know, free

682
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: agency in the draft go hand in hand. How could

683
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: you see the Cowboys spending what looks to be their

684
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: biggest windfall in free agency money in a long time

685
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: ahead of the draft And obvious, I mean that's gonna

686
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: affect what you do obviously. Yeah, we could this be

687
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: when you go out and you get you take care

688
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: of my safety position with Earl Thomas sixty seven projected

689
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: sixty five ish sixty seven ish million dollars, fourteen of

690
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: it is now going to Amari Cooper, right, I really

691
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I can't. I hope the Cowboys extend to Marcus Lawrence.

692
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: I think they think he deserves it. I think he's

693
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: he's too good playing the run and there in the past. No,

694
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: he's been, he's become a leader. So no, that's absolutely

695
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: half of your cap space accounted for with those two players.

696
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: But you could get a safety earl Thomas. I mean

697
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that sounds expensive to me. It's gonna be interesting coming

698
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: off the broken leg. I think he'll be fine. No,

699
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: I I I'm saying. I know what you're saying. In

700
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: terms of paying him. You know, it's the same contract.

701
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that you were thinking, uh in a trade in

702
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: terms of the extension, yeah, or you know, is it

703
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: reset now? And I could see this guy coming in

704
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: here for like signing a three year deal, you know,

705
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, and just yeah, I think you can get

706
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: ready for that. Get ready for that. I think I

707
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: think that's coming. Can't time stamp this for me? Please? Well? Hey,

708
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: I go back and listen to all the shows. Yeah

709
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: you do, I do. I went back and listen to

710
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: eighteen hours or driving. Brian re listens to our shows

711
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: while he works out, just to give you that mental image. Well,

712
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Okay, um, okay, we talked about tight end.

713
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: That's let's let's bank some tight ends here. I'm glad. Okay, Well,

714
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: that is obviously going to be a question question. Thank you, Chris.

715
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: He says tight end candidates to get excited about. But

716
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: before Dane does that, yeah, I just want to point

717
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: out tight end is not a position at second round.

718
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't translate quickly, it does it. What's Mike Giseki

719
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: doing right now? Squat? I think it's like seventeen catches

720
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: your seventeen? No way he did? Yeah, No, seventeen catch, absolutely,

721
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: it does. I think he does. That's so that's no. No.

722
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: I looked up the numbers. I looked I thought I

723
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: looked up the numbers on looked up in Pro Football Reference.

724
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: That's I thought it was. It's thirteen seventeen somewhere. He's

725
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: got double digit catches. He's not light in the world

726
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: on unless he's rushing the ball for thirteen times or

727
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: something like that. I thought for some reason I looked

728
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: him up and they're probably right. I hope I am,

729
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: because I don't want to embarrass myself. Twelve twelve catches

730
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty two yards. Okay, Okay, he's

731
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: not light in the world on fire, which no, neither

732
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: is Dallas Garter r Hurst. Maybe, and I want to

733
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: hear these names, but maybe that's a position where you

734
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: could spend a little money in free agency and just

735
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: get a veteran guy that knows what he's doing. Anyway,

736
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: you need James Hannah, I need I don't even know.

737
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I can't even think of a name. But just bring

738
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: me a veteran guy who's capable of starting. Okay, this

739
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: tight end, the senior class is very underwhelming at tight end,

740
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: so you're gonna need some help from the underclassman guy Missouri,

741
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: and that there's a lot of underclassmen that we're gonna

742
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: be talking about. Noah Fans the top guy I mentioned him, Yeah,

743
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: right right, possible first round pick. He's in that Evan

744
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: ingram mold. He'll give you a little bit as a blocker,

745
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: but really you want him on the outside using as

746
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: an athleticism as a receiver. That's that's where you want him.

747
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a possible top thirty two guy. Cayton

748
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Smith is the best all around blocker the Stanford tight

749
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: end he can now cringing. Well, yeah, I know, you

750
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, and yeah, it was a

751
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: guy we talked about. Don't don't write off Dalton shows. No,

752
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just not. But I just know that

753
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: our fans out there are going, oh god, Stanford brought us.

754
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: You know, we went down on that road. Remember zach

755
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Ertz went to Stanford two Yeah, sure, no, that's absolutely right. Uh.

756
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: He Cayton Smith is to me the best all around

757
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: tight end with what he can do block end, what

758
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: he can do as a receiver down the seam. Uh,

759
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: he's a guy to keep an eye on. Mitchell Wilcox

760
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: from South Florida who we watched really athletic tight end,

761
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: strong hands, works the middle of the field. Well, uh

762
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: needs some work as a blocker, but I watched him

763
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: with you though. You're right about that. This guy does

764
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: work the middle of field pretty well. He does. I

765
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 1: like he's the guy that moves the chains. He does

766
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: six four two forty six is what he is. Um

767
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Irv Smith from Alabama, he is, he is. He the

768
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: son of the great Irv Smith that played Yes Notre Dame.

769
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: Yes he is Okay, yes, Bloodlins, that goes. I'm now

770
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: real old. Yes, scouted his dad when Patrick's certain watch

771
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: him playing. That makes me feel old. Patrick's his son,

772
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: his son, His son's a corner Atbama. Yeah he spurns.

773
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: He spurned LSU. Yeah, oh did he? Yeah we'll find

774
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: out about that. And yeah next week from Saturday. Another

775
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: guy from Iowa, t J. Hawkinson, retard sophomore. He's that

776
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: George kittle mold where he's gonna get after you as

777
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: a blocker. But he's also a pretty capable receiver as well.

778
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: So I was got two guys and they feature both

779
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: prominently in that offense. So, Chuck, I think I was

780
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: playing Penn State this weekend in Happy Valley. Check out

781
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: that game to see Hawkinson. Hawkinson's what thirty number eight,

782
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: number thirty eight and no offense eighty seven. So check

783
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: those two guys. So you say fenn is the first

784
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: rounder and then the and then Hawk. Yeah, I mean

785
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: he's somewhere in that second maybe probably, I mean and

786
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: only rising. I mean the more I see him him,

787
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: the more I'm like, Okay, this guy, like the Missouri

788
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: kid I didn't have as a first or second. It's

789
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: Albert and it's a crazy last name. Folks. They call

790
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: him Albert. Oh yeah, Alberto. They asked you so he

791
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: could laughing. No, No, he doesn't know it either though.

792
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: And if somebody out there knows how to pronounce and

793
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: you know how to pronounce, take a stab at it,

794
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: dan ol boom wog boom, Yeah, the boom Alberto, that's

795
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: what Alberto. And then you mentioned Mitchell Wilcox is another one. Yeah,

796
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: and for the for the Texas Faithful or the State

797
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: of Texas faithful, Jay Sternberger. Yeah, he's he's a leaner guy,

798
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: but really good after the catch. Just that's the South

799
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Carolina safety he dragged for, you know, twenty five yards. Um.

800
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's the guy who transferred from Kansas. He's

801
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: getting better and better. He's more of a rocked up

802
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: receiver than a true in line tight end, but he's

803
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: in that mix in terms of the underclassman that can

804
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: really help this tight end class. Eighty three percent of

805
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: our fans listeners on the pot on the app say

806
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: that our first pick should be a tight end. Seventeen

807
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: percent say safety. There are no votes for any See

808
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: this is what we what do we start the draft? Show?

809
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Last year talking about guards. Right starts about guards. What

810
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: did it win? Yeah? Yeah, get ready, folks, we'll see

811
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: talking about two first rounders to go get Quinton Nelson,

812
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: good player. Which this goes back to another which thing?

813
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: Did you have another percentage for second position? There? Safety

814
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: was at seventeen? And then we got some smart folks

815
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: out there. That's what people want to hear about when okay,

816
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: good job folks. Question from Ivan really get into the

817
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: heart of the matter here, got to make your hay

818
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: and rounds two and three. He wants to know what

819
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: are the deepest positions you know at the top For that,

820
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to say right now with it is early.

821
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: We don't know the underclassmen are going to come out.

822
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: That changed everything and that'll push guys. I think we

823
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: just generally talk about the most the strongest position potentially

824
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: with Andrew classman, defensive tackle is the first one easy

825
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: my top thirty two boards. There you go. Literally had

826
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: happened last year though, didn't it? Another question where we

827
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: like not all these guys were chure leading. We're trying

828
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: to We're trying to get what I'm saying. I'm talking

829
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: these guys. Ron Payne kicked our ass like three days.

830
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: No doubt about defensive defensive line this year is gonna

831
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: be stronger than we've had the last few years. Tackle

832
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, well, I include the pass rushers. I saw

833
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: that kid from Alabama, Quinn Willims, number ninety two is

834
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy. Okay, yeah, you start right there. He's not lying.

835
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh good, he is not lying. At Oliver is a freak.

836
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean you could play him that. He is not.

837
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: He is not. He is not. It's unfair to compare

838
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: him to Aaron Donald. He's not Aaron Donald. No, what

839
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: about what about Sue? That's the other one. I hear

840
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Speaker 1: the two Oliver and Sue. Oh no, no, no, no,

841
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: small small Yeah, what's two hundred seventy pounds there? Yeah,

842
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: at Oliver he during the summer he was too se

843
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Speaker 1: twenty six to two seventy eight. Yeah, you put him

844
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: on the nose. Yeah, but by the combine he'll be

845
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: up to two eighty five probably. But he's not gonna

846
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Speaker 1: be a three hundred pound guy. That's not who do

847
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: some questions about how fast he really is though? Does

848
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: he He doesn't? He plays really quick, really show like

849
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, At Oliver, At Oliver I come on here

850
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: and it's like and so he's seeing good. By the

851
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: way this SPOSA kid can play. I'm just telling you,

852
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on record say kid can play. I

853
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: will say this with you're not gonna fall. So you know,

854
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: the last how many years I've been doing this, it

855
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: does happen from time to time where my number one

856
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: player in the preseason or like you know, year before,

857
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: all the way through Miles Garrett heart he was my

858
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: number one player as soon as the twenty and seventeen

859
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Speaker 1: draft ended, Miles Garrett or ten and sixteen draft. Miles

860
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Garrett is my number one player for the two and

861
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: seventeen draft. This year, I think it's gonna be the

862
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: same thing with Nick Bosa. I will say that Quinnin

863
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Williams has a chance to compete for that him and

864
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. If Herbert's in this draft, how about how

865
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: about a defensive tackle going one overall? It's not that

866
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: far fast. Okay, Okay, but since yeah wilkomes Okay, who

867
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: he thinks gonna projection? Raiders or Giants? Giants? Yeah, I

868
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: mean giants. Forty Niners are gonna have a strong quarterback.

869
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: Donate a quarterback. Well, okay, that's another question, because if

870
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's not in this draft, good chance we don't

871
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 1: see a quarterback top ten. There you go, and Justin

872
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Herbert's gonna look And there's a chatter lately about it. Yeah,

873
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: he has no idea whether he's coming or going. At

874
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: this time last year, Sam Darnold's staying him play the

875
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: day he pitched pitching around pretty well, he was the

876
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: top quarterback. Plus, y um, Dan's just very mad. Shut up,

877
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: shut a bull man scout. Sorry us. He's a best

878
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: that's so cavalier over the years. But no, Justin Herbert,

879
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: he's his situations different. You know, Darnold looked around that

880
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: locker room at the end of last year and it's like, okay,

881
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: why am I coming back? Yeah, the offensive line's terrible,

882
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: all my weapons are moving on. It's a young team,

883
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and he made the right choice for him with Herbert.

884
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: It's not that way. He's got a lot of guys

885
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: coming back at Oregon. Plus, his little brother is gonna

886
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: be a true freshman. He's a Eugene kid. I think

887
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: he's a big part of him wants to see Oregon

888
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: be a very productive team. A very successful team in

889
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. There's a good chance that Justin Herbert

890
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: goes back. And if that happens, then again, we're talking

891
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: about a quarterback class where your top quarterback is going

892
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: to be maybe walk from Missouri. So he wants nothing

893
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to do with the Giants. You would start that, wouldn't you.

894
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, why, Okay, that's dumb though, like that, Oh,

895
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if he goes back, if he goes

896
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: back to school, it's not because he doesn't want to

897
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: thin Matt Matt Leiner had been the first overall pick

898
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: in the draft of his class probably and he went

899
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: back senior year, right, and he got picked tenth. You

900
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: can't say that first. I'm just throwing it out there.

901
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I don't think Justin Herbert

902
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: cares at all whether he's a first pick or he's

903
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: going high. He knows that. I don't think he cares.

904
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Take out a big insurance policy and he'll be just

905
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: fine for a senior year. Right. But the twenty twenty

906
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: draft clas class, which if things don't work out here,

907
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys could be interested there. You go to it from Alabama,

908
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about Justin Herbert, that twenty twenty draft class

909
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: is going to be loaded with quarterbacks, not this draft class,

910
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: depending on what Justin Herbert does. All right, and that's

911
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: I'm derailing it. But that right, there's why Dak Dak

912
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Prescott will be your quarterback. Not that one of the reasons. Absolutely,

913
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: Not that the Cowboys are pulling the plug on that

914
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: in or do I think they should. But he's under contract.

915
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: You can ride that thing out. And if you are

916
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: convinced you need a quarterback in twenty twenty, I like

917
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: your odds a lot better based just based on the

918
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: way it's stacked. And if it didn't work out, good

919
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: chance you were in a draft position to go get one.

920
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. One more question, Yeah, yeah, I do

921
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: from Adam. Thank you, Adam, appreciate you. Does the level

922
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: of play of the offensive tackles on this team concern

923
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: you to the point that you we didn't talk about

924
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: that as a need? Well, I don't. What are you

925
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: raising your eyes for. I'm interested to hear your answer

926
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: to that. That's say what they've struggled, and I think

927
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do technique, but I

928
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: think the I think the right tackle has struggled the

929
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: most because of because of a technique switch. I think

930
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: that's I think that's No, I think that's been a

931
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: big problem. So he was playing at a very high

932
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: level at the end of the year, and you don't worry.

933
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: You don't worry about him as a talent. No, I don't.

934
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I don't. You don't envision a scenario where tackle will

935
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: be a top five need for this team in the

936
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: next year's draft. I don't think so. The thing with

937
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, I don't think he has a back problem,

938
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: but I think he's got stiffness because of his back problem. Yeah,

939
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's robbed him of some

940
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: of his flexibility, some of his core strength and power

941
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: that he used to have. But no, I'm you know what,

942
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: trusts me. The New York Giants would love to have

943
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: either one of these offensive tackles right now. That's and

944
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: a lot of teams would. But by the day, I

945
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: think they're better than Yeah, I think you need to

946
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: figure out there could very well be a change at

947
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Here with that, I think

948
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: that I would, I would go with that. So, Okay,

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00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna go We're gonna go a little longer today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break right now. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: I want to get in some names with Dane Burglar

952
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Speaker 1: that some guys that we need to look. I know,

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Speaker 1: we did a little bit on the Twitter of the

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Speaker 1: I want you to we asked the question about defensive

1027
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: tackles as potentially as part of a need. You said

1028
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: it is one of the deepest positions. Let's kind of

1029
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: start there. It kind of kind of walk us through

1030
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: some names, and I know we again we're not talking

1031
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: about you want to mention the first round names, but

1032
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of go through a list of guys that we

1033
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of need to keep an eye on. Well, we

1034
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: talked about Quinn and Williams and Oliver already. Yeah, those

1035
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: two men are bad. They're gonna be off off the

1036
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: board in top five. And then you've got Jeffrey Simmons

1037
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Speaker 1: from Mississippi State, who is just couldn't block him the

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Speaker 1: other day against He's a grown man. Yeah, but off

1039
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: the field stuff, maybe something there, some off the field

1040
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: stuff that could be an issue. Maybe get him the

1041
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: second round. I love how you thought. I how can

1042
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Speaker 1: I get into the Cowboys? Yeah, exactly, go ahead. Clemson's

1043
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: got a pair of guys Dexter Lawrence and um, who's

1044
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: the other guy one forgetting Wilkins Christian Wilkins. Thank you.

1045
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins is more of the undersized, penetrating, get up field.

1046
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: He's got that flexibility, he's got the voter plays well

1047
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: versus run because of those chase skills. Dexter Lawrence is

1048
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: more of the big body, you know, plug the gaps,

1049
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: gonna hold up double teams, that kind of thing. And

1050
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: that's that's for me. Dexter Lawrence. I understand why some

1051
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: people think he's a top ten pick, but again for me,

1052
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: if you don't have past rush value and Dexter Lawrence doesn't,

1053
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: that's why I don't want you in a top twenty.

1054
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: But that will be an interesting one. Uh. Other defensive

1055
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: tackles talked about rake Uan Davis from Alabama, Derek Brown Auburn. Uh,

1056
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: SEC's a loaded Yeah, that's what I thought the SEC traditionally,

1057
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Jean kin Law from South Carolina. There we go. Draymond

1058
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Jones from Ohio State's uh. He's kind of the at

1059
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: Oliver Light, you know, not not quite on Oliver's level,

1060
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: but he's the guy in the middle of late first round.

1061
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: You can probably get uh in that type of players.

1062
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: So defensive tackle, if the juniors come out like we

1063
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: expect them too, it's gonna be a loaded position. It's

1064
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: gonna be loaded, so it'd be pretty deep there. Yeah,

1065
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: and well, and that's the thing. If you're the Cowboys,

1066
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: You're okay, defensive tackle one's gonna get pushed down the board. No, absolutely,

1067
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: do you monitor that and see, Okay, is it time

1068
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: to pounce? Yeah, get a guy you really like it?

1069
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: How can I Yeah, let's we're gonna talk a lot

1070
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: about trying to get back into the first right. Oh no,

1071
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: we're absolutely. I mean when we get the strategy time, Yeah,

1072
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out a way to get

1073
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: up in there. We didn't call me a coward for

1074
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: not one. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't like I don't

1075
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: have as many assets, so I'm willing to get crazy

1076
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, go all in to help help out. Yeah,

1077
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: I mean if we signed Earl Thomas, yeah, then yeah,

1078
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: it takes care of one of your needs. Right, Maybe

1079
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: we get a tight end too, and then I'm like, yeah,

1080
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: let's trade up and get this pass rusher with on

1081
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: that um the position we kind of we hinted on

1082
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit about wide receiver. We didn't feel like

1083
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: that there was there was most most of those guys

1084
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: are bottom of the well, not most of but a

1085
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: couple in the bottom of the first round. Well, and

1086
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: you and I watched him, Yeah, a lot of people

1087
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: really like uh Nikkil Harry from Arizona State. Well, I

1088
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: think he's a huge, but he's slow. That's it. He

1089
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: struggles so slow to uncover. Yeah. I got to see

1090
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: him in person this year Washington they played They played

1091
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: Washington while it was a great experience, but Washington Secondary

1092
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: absolutely blanketed him like he couldn't do anything. And that's

1093
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: the thing is he's he's a big guy. He's really

1094
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: good in contested situations. He's got strong hands, physical, he'll

1095
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: do some things after the catch just because he's so

1096
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: big and physical. But he's not going to create space. No,

1097
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: he's not. That's a big red flag. Yeah, I didn't,

1098
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was watching him. I didn't see some

1099
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: They tried him with some double move stuff and he

1100
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: didn't even have the quickness to kind of you know

1101
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: where they were like the corner was like, okay, keep moving,

1102
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: keep trying. You know. It didn't It didn't affect him

1103
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: at all. He's also he was also facing one of

1104
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: the best corners in the nation, Byron Murphrey, who yeah

1105
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: tought fifteen pick. Yeah. But Riley Ridley Calvin's little brother,

1106
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: the junior at Georgia, who another they're talking about double

1107
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: moves that he's a really clean route runner. Yeah, he's

1108
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: not a burst player. You know, his speed. He doesn't

1109
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: have the burst that Calvin does, but he's a little bigger,

1110
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: a little more physical, and so there's a trade off.

1111
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: There's not a he's not as smooth as Calvin is

1112
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: running routes. I mean he's a you know, he's a

1113
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: detailed route runner. Yeah, you know, he's one of the

1114
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: better route runners I think for a college player. Calvin

1115
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: was just on a different level, there's no question. Yeah

1116
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: the missisissip Mississippi kids. Uh with a J. Brown? And

1117
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: then yeah, you like Brown better than Medcalf, don't you?

1118
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I do? I mean Metcalf. I get why people like him.

1119
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: He's he's a physical freak. He's huge and he can run,

1120
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: but he's not very technically sound with his routes. He

1121
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: had some drops and yeah you watched him. Yeah, would

1122
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: you think put my Brown right? ORDN Like, I like

1123
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: Brown better than Madcalf because because I thought Brown could

1124
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: come out of the slot and play better. You know,

1125
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: but that's a big question with Brown is he's only

1126
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: in the slot. This guy, well, yeah, Medcalf's like six four,

1127
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: two thirty. He's huge, And it's I'm saying and you're

1128
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: and you're saying it really you know, you talk about

1129
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: these the Arizona say it takes these guys time to

1130
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: get going. Yeah, you know, and you wonder why the

1131
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: cowboy dak is holding on the body is because you

1132
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: got guys that can't get down the field right now,

1133
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a problem. I know we don't love these rankings,

1134
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: but I see a lot of football factories and then

1135
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I see Buffalo. Yeah, Anthony Johns, Anthony, Yeah, talk about

1136
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: him a little bit. That was might be a tell

1137
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: me more guy, maybe well maybe not if maybe not

1138
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: can sell more now. Jadeveon Clowney's cousin, guy came a

1139
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: big basketball player in high school. Um, you know, I

1140
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: had some academic issues with the two different jucos and then, uh,

1141
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: he thought he was going to Oklahoma State that fell

1142
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: through Buffalo. And why does this sound like a problem. Well,

1143
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: it's academics, that's okay. Like he thought he was going

1144
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State and then like his one final credit

1145
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: would it transfer something like that? Um, And so I

1146
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: did a big story on him on the athletic you

1147
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: can check it out, and he wound up at Buffalo

1148
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: is the only school that kind of had a scholarship

1149
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: left for him yea. And so he ends up at

1150
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo and he kind of blew up with Tyree Jackson

1151
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback there. Uh not the fact I worry about

1152
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: the speed. He's not the fastest guy. I get. It

1153
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: seems to be a theme with the guys we're talking

1154
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Oklhoma State tends to have those guys right in that

1155
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's kind of emo that we've known the last

1156
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: didn't didn't mention James Washington at the top of the show. Yeah,

1157
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: he's off to a pretty nice start for Pittsburgh. He

1158
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: went to a pretty good situation where he's not he's

1159
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: not expected to be the guy, right, so he can

1160
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: even the number two guys three. Yeah, but some of

1161
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: these other receivers JJ are saying, a white side from

1162
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: Stanford like him a lot. He's kind of like a

1163
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: Mike Evans light. You know, he's not quite the athlete

1164
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans is, but when you're that size, you

1165
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: have the basketball background, and he plays like a basketball

1166
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: power forward with the way can box out, high point

1167
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: come down with the football. Like the South Carolina receivers

1168
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: with Brian Edwards and Deebo Samuel, both those guys were

1169
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: future NFL players. And then Texas they've got two guys

1170
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: with little Jordan Humphrey and Colin Johnson. Yes, two tall

1171
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: trees that in high school I played at. He played

1172
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: at a south Lake Carol. He is fun to watch. Yeah,

1173
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: it's fun. Yeah, this games on radio. All right. Let's

1174
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: but the all these wide receivers, I don't think any

1175
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: of them are top twenty guys, you know. I think

1176
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: they're between twenty and sixty. Yeah, you know, so I

1177
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: think there's good value. That's great. It's a bad thing

1178
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: we all know. But okay, trying to would you've been reaching?

1179
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: Would you maybe been reaching for a guy if you

1180
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: took one at fourteen? He took one, absolutely took one

1181
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: of my opinion, yes, yeah, no question from what we've

1182
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: seen right now, Like I love Hollywood Brown. Yeah, he

1183
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: is electric. Watched absolutely. Yeah. But he's one hundred and

1184
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: seventy pounds. Yeah, I mean you worry about durability. Can

1185
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: he hold up? I mean, okay, maybe he gets like

1186
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: that guy in Jacksonville. Maybe he gets to one eighty. Yeah, okay, great,

1187
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: But how many one hundred and eighty pound receivers are

1188
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: there in the NFL? Who are playing at a high

1189
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: level consistently. It's just it's hard to do that guy

1190
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh. Maybe how how big you see Brown? Yeah,

1191
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: he's bigger than that. I'd say's closer one ninety. Okay,

1192
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking D D. D. Westbrook's doing

1193
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: some things he's not. I mean, he's hit and miss.

1194
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I think of the

1195
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: investment was about fourth round. Yeah, yeah, exactly because of

1196
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: the say it some off the field he does so.

1197
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: And I included Hollywood Brown at number thirty two on

1198
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: my board, so I think he is in the you know,

1199
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: he's in that first round conversation, but not a guy

1200
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: that I'm taking top twenty. None of these wide receivers

1201
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: are at this point basically what the Cowboys fans feel

1202
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot better about this past week. Well, and this

1203
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: is not sugarcoat. I mean, this guy's looked at this stuff, right,

1204
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: And I've looked at these receivers supposed to the top

1205
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: ones you've seen, and I and I and I and

1206
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm not He's right. I know I've seen

1207
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: some of the top I mean the kid I liked

1208
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: the best, honestly, was the guy that I watched today

1209
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: was the kids g from Ridley. Yeah, I wouldn't not

1210
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: be surprised if you know April comes around Riley, Ridley's

1211
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver one for me. Yeah, but again, not a

1212
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: guy that you're talking top twenty now. Yeah, I'm certain

1213
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tow the company line and I'm bumblings.

1214
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Don't do that. I'm bum though. We don't have a

1215
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: first round pick, but like I feel good and what

1216
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: will McClay is pretty good at this, we would say, right. Yeah,

1217
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: the scouts have been in town recently to have their

1218
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, their first meetings since they started going out

1219
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: on the road. I don't think that's a coincidence that

1220
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: they did this deal. After that they sat down and said,

1221
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: we're really going to find a guy that's better than

1222
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: this in the first round of the draft. Yeah. Not, Okay,

1223
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: can take a couple of minutes, stay and give me

1224
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: some safeties. If we looked at some safeties, the top

1225
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: one's easy, that's deontape. Okay. This is again if you

1226
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: don't say a lot of Alabama names today, Yeah, I know,

1227
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: I know Thompson. Thompson is a good player. The number

1228
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: fourteen six two one. This guy's a good he's probably

1229
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: the best ball hawk Nick sabans had an Alabama. Yeah,

1230
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: this is legitimate. This guy will hit you now too.

1231
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: He will. He's not afraid to do that. No, and

1232
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: he's he's got the range, he's got the instincts. He's

1233
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: a first year starter kind of like Quinnon Williams coming

1234
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, he show he saw flashes last year, but

1235
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: really coming into his own as a as a starter

1236
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: this year. Um, I've heard really good things about who

1237
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: he is. He's already graduated. Um So Deonday Thompson's easily

1238
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: number one for me at least, and then after that.

1239
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's another first round safety in

1240
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: this mix. Taylor Rat from Washington's interesting. Um, I think

1241
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: he might be in that first round discussion. Brandon Jones

1242
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: from Texas as a guy like a lot. Yeah, I

1243
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's a first rounder, but maybe that's someone

1244
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be looking at second third round Day two.

1245
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: Uh Hudson from Michigan's another one. Abraham from Misissippi State.

1246
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: So there are some names, but in my mind there

1247
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: is only one. Uh, you know, true clear cut he's

1248
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: a first round player and that's that's Thompson from Alabama. Yeah. Absolutely,

1249
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 1: It's funny because I like to hear that. I'm like, good,

1250
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: we don't. I don't care about first round playing here.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised they don't go after Rule Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. At the very least, I wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Is there anybody else coming up

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Speaker 1: on the market? I mean, we're so far out of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know I need to I need to look at that.

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Speaker 1: But now I'm trying to look at college players here.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I need I wonder. Yeah, I really I don't.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to see like a Brandon car type

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Speaker 1: of signing, like fifty million dollars, unless it's de Marcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: which he's there guy. But I think I think this

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Speaker 1: team is not going to have a choice but to

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Speaker 1: add some free agent help. Sure they are sure that,

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Speaker 1: but they'll they'll I think they'll figure this out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really really do. All Right, that's it. That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's a fast hour. That is a real fast hour,

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Speaker 1: you know, jeez. I we were doing the draft day

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Speaker 1: coverage where we do like twelve hours of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I want to thank everybody out there. I especially

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Speaker 1: want to thank our guys here, my Scouts, Dame Burglar,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. I want to thank Kent Garrison for executive producing.

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Speaker 1: Also just wanting to thank I also want to thank

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Speaker 1: Ed K. Hill for coming up with this idea long

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Speaker 1: time ago. We appreciate Ed. We love you, we miss you.

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton for letting us go twice a week when

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Speaker 1: we get down to the drafting part of it. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you that. We'll see you guys in January. In January,

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Speaker 1: a week before Senior Bowl, we'll be in Moobile, We'll

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Speaker 1: be at the Combine, we'll be at the Draft, we'll

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Speaker 1: be everywhere. So thanks for joining us, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: you down the road. This has been a production of

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