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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I'll still live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great z.

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Speaker 2: How you living today, Buddy?

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Speaker 3: I don't share rooms. I did say no bunking own.

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Speaker 3: Ready to be out there.

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Speaker 4: Sad left, Miss k left, sweet little Luca today, the

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Speaker 4: first time I've left, uh, obviously Luca overnight. And it's

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Speaker 4: two eight weeks and one day on this planet.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll remember you when you get back.

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 3: And you're gone like four days. He's like, it's eleven

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Speaker 3: percent of his life, a lot of lifetime. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: his life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be when. Yeah, he's gonna big, big smile,

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Speaker 2: the warm, warm blanket over and get that baby breath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's on. I mean, you guys are headed to

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Speaker 3: Charlotte tonight and away.

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Speaker 4: We go, apparently, and we're headed into like yeah, a

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Speaker 4: deluge that will not stop. Yeah, and we're not changing

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Speaker 4: any plans that apparently.

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Speaker 2: Well I saw the sup by the way, Oh thanks buddy,

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Speaker 2: I saw it from uh Canalis this morning that he

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Speaker 2: had talked to Kevin and they're like, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: practice in the rain because it's gonna rain copious amounts

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Speaker 2: three to five inches. They're talking about rain down in

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Speaker 2: the Charlotte area. That's they don't have a dome.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of rains. Well that means a lot

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Speaker 3: of rain.

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Speaker 2: It is, but like when you lived in Atlanta, like

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Speaker 2: they can it can take a lot of rain because

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Speaker 2: it's the it's so sandy, so it absorbs a lot.

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Speaker 3: But it's everywhere it's been hammered all year. Yeah. It's

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Speaker 3: the thing about this is how where this is Quail Hollow.

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Speaker 3: This is where the PGA Championship was.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, you're right, tons of rain, yeah, in the

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Speaker 4: in the in the proceedings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would be you know, me doing this,

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Speaker 2: I'd be concerned about injuries. I'd be concerned about all

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Speaker 2: of the things that happened when you play in conditions

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Speaker 2: that aren't pristine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is wild that they have no indoor

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Speaker 4: facility whatsoever, especially given that they play two games every

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Speaker 4: year guaranteed in their division in domes.

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Speaker 2: It's it's wild for that.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I have a hole in my resume with the Carolinas.

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Speaker 2: I've been there, but I have not spent any considered

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Speaker 2: a consistent time in North Carolina South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I've spent Grainsborough. I've spent some time in Greensboro, like I.

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Speaker 2: Have a South point of reference, and it rains a lot,

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Speaker 2: like Is North Carolina like that?

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Speaker 4: Or is it like And then I've spent times up

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Speaker 4: in the mountains near Asheville where they filmed Last the Mohicans.

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Speaker 3: No matter what occurs, I will find I will find

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Speaker 3: you stay alive. Ah, that's my mentality right now and

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Speaker 3: so on.

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Speaker 6: So great.

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Speaker 2: I need, I need, I need old school I need

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Speaker 2: old school Brown's Therapy, your face, Daniel day Lewis's Last

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Speaker 2: the Mohicans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, under the Waterfall, That's what I need. That's what

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Speaker 2: After that, stay a lot.

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Speaker 6: But I don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's weird to be they don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, almost all of the college football teams in

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Speaker 2: They got to get their practices in. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: strange to me that they don't at least have like

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Speaker 2: there was a while he was number one, like he

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Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know if the Walmart thing

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Speaker 3: very regal, very regal. Yeah, so yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta get some work done down in Charlotte

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Speaker 2: and you want to it's it's going to be, you know,

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Speaker 3: Than not in the rain, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is again wild to get my head

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Speaker 3: I don't, gibbet.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any intellis whether or not we are

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Speaker 4: under any type of a surface.

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Speaker 7: Well, we have to walk under a train trail, so

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Speaker 7: to get to the practice.

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Speaker 3: Field, Well that would prevent the rain.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know if I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: Is it at we don't have like we don't have

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Speaker 4: We had a tarp over us, like a roofed situation.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you guys are going to be Our

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Speaker 2: show will be after practice, right, Is.

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Speaker 3: That kind of the plan?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, practice will be around Coach will talk around nine

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Speaker 7: probably by noon. So yeah, and we'll do the show

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Speaker 7: from the uh the radio booth at the stadium Tomago.

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Speaker 2: And is that all that's all one area there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So they're building a complex.

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Speaker 7: They're doing they're building one because in the past they

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Speaker 7: had training camp at Wafford, which right forty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Away, okay, for the longest time they do.

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Speaker 7: So they now have practice fields, but they don't they're

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Speaker 7: working on their indoor facility and they're working on just

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Speaker 7: a facility in general to have right by the stadium.

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Speaker 7: So you have to get ready at the stadium walk out.

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Speaker 7: I'll know more when I get there that night, because

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Speaker 7: I've got to walk through once we get there.

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Speaker 2: But is it wild to think that we're like thirty

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Speaker 3: Really thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: I mean they've been around forever, and you know, they've

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Speaker 2: had different ownerships. You know, the original ownership in both

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Speaker 2: plans about what they want to do. Tepper orchestrating that plan.

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Speaker 2: Now Jacksonville's doing the same with what they're trying to

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Speaker 2: acting like he was still on a not just on

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Speaker 2: trail trying to get like facilities built to tell Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like you got to it was a college coach Sports.

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Speaker 7: America, Good old Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: They're putting a putting a They were trying to do

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Speaker 2: like a four seasons there too with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was going to be a huge complex. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and this will be.

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Speaker 2: This will be a big test for our team too,

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Speaker 2: because I do think that this Caroline teams kind of

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Speaker 3: It most certainly will be it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a team that's certainly has got some talent

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Speaker 4: at the wide receiver position, you know, drafting McMillan this year.

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Speaker 4: They drafted legiate in the first round a year ago.

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Speaker 4: They still have the venerable veteran Adam Thielen. They've got

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Speaker 4: they can run it. Bryce Young played very well at

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Speaker 4: the end of the year. They beat Atlanta at the

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Speaker 3: Carolina was able to beat them.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it is a good test. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: things are getting even more interesting around here with the

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Speaker 4: signing of Snoop Huntley yesterday, which is I think kind

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Speaker 4: of caught a lot of people by surprise, which I

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Speaker 4: think would be fair that absolutely, because all four quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: participated in that. Now, I think what's become very clear

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Speaker 4: at this point, and I think people just need to

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Speaker 4: accept where we are in this regardless of what it

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Speaker 4: that any of it, that this is a quarterback competition

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Speaker 4: that really, it feels like, is between Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett, and then Dylan Gabriel would be the third

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Speaker 3: But that's it.

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Speaker 4: Those are the people that are competing to play meaningful

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Speaker 3: That's it. Shoulder Stainers is not amongst that group.

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Speaker 4: And it looks like Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel will

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Speaker 4: be the nursing hamstring injuries, and it's speculation is that

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Speaker 4: they will not participate in the game against the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 4: So I look at that from the Kenny Pickett' side

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Speaker 4: being extra judicious with him because we know he wants

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Speaker 4: That maybe it's like we just we need you good

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Speaker 4: other way you could look at it is that you

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Speaker 4: know Joe Flacco has been especially with picking out clearly

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Speaker 4: the best quarterback out there. Yeah, as you would expect

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Speaker 4: an eighteen year veteran versus a rookie third and fifth rounder.

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Speaker 4: And so those are the two ways that you can

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Speaker 4: look at that. I think I still believe it's the

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Speaker 4: former that they're just being judicious with Kenny because they

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Speaker 4: have big plans for him. And then you know, bringing

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Speaker 4: in Huntley on the serf, to me that that means

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Speaker 4: that you know, maybe Flacco starts this preseason game, Shador goes,

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Speaker 4: and then should something happen to Shador, that then you

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Speaker 4: would have Huntley there to go in an emergency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, almost like they're ruling. This is just us talking,

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Speaker 2: nothing official, but almost like they're ruling Picket and Gabriel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which to.

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Speaker 2: Me would be it seems odd because I know with

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Speaker 2: my own two eyes, I watched them throw yesterday and

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Speaker 2: Gabriel is eleven on eleven. Yeah, so I was saying

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Speaker 2: to Gibbet, I said, Dylan's in the team. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's in eleven through seven on seven, but Dylan was

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Speaker 2: in eleven on eleven.

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Speaker 4: Mary Kay's reporting on it was basically that, yeah, it

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Speaker 4: looks like they won't play in that Huntley will play now.

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Speaker 4: I don't see a need for Huntley to actually play

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Speaker 4: in this game after one practice. And yes, he was

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Speaker 4: here a year ago, but that was a very different offense.

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Speaker 4: That was the Ken Dorsey Deshaun Watson tailored offense as

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Speaker 4: in the league, he's a pro bowler. All of those

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Speaker 4: It's clear that the belief is he is a fifth

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Speaker 4: They could just be like you know, listen, Shoud is

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Speaker 2: Kevin Hall talked tomorrow before practice. That'll be the next

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Speaker 7: Series, yes, correct, correct, numerous teams that are announcing they're

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Speaker 3: Did you see the Borough stuff? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yep, they're playing all. I mean they're gonna they're playing them.

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Speaker 4: They've started the seasons poorly every single year and they

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Speaker 2: Three in a row. Yeah, it's been a minute since

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Speaker 2: they have. Yeah, it's interesting, Like I was trying to

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Speaker 2: Practice, and they're like, yeah, we're fine, Like and the

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Speaker 2: is is, look, we've started slow. Let's let's get that thing.

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Speaker 4: I would also say, we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 2: Also, they had a bad defense.

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Speaker 6: Don't know that.

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Speaker 2: That's fortifive games, four or five games when they gave

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's changing. No, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Like even you could even do it with like a

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Speaker 4: Valuable than what we're getting? Intellectually? I don't think it

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Speaker 2: It just feels like we're at a point now in

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Speaker 2: Second preseason is even a quarter Yeah, second preseason game

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Speaker 2: Fourth preseason gave nothing. Yep, that's how it used to go.

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Speaker 2: Now we got three preseason games. We have some teams

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Speaker 2: nobody plays none of them. It's all just the philosophy

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Speaker 2: to me like all right, Listen, the first two series

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Speaker 3: Fine. I'm totally fine with it.

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Speaker 4: I think that you're gonna get I think listen, I

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Speaker 4: Where you're I think that's where things are going to

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Speaker 3: Do we have any of that? Give which part I believe?

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Speaker 4: He said that he thinks he's gonna name like a

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Speaker 4: But we have had we haven't had all four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean because Kenny's over well over

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Speaker 2: Now it's into this week where he's still not all

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Speaker 4: We certainly have not had all four quarterbacks participate in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yesterday when that's the biggest Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, do you want that clip? Yeah, go ahead,

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Speaker 7: And this comes courtesy of so Fanasi on the next

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a good question. We're not there yet. I'm

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Speaker 8: It's gonna come sooner than later, But I don't have

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Speaker 8: I'm pleased with the progress. What I've said all along

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Speaker 2: Do you take that literally or do you take it

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Speaker 4: Do you see the difference the difference, I think it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's two more weeks of this. I

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Speaker 2: This is why it's going to go. Okay, so let

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Speaker 2: be very difficult for it to be anybody other than

442
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. Okay, I mean, Kenny hasn't practiced in over

443
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Speaker 2: a week. Well, I mean not fully.

444
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Speaker 3: How could I just don't I under you and I look.

445
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: We talked about this all off season, like Kenny Pickett,

446
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 2: break Glass, Joe Flacco, where you go.

447
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of been what we think it is.

448
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: But in this instance, it appears like from my mantage point,

449
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: it feels like we're getting close to break glass. Like

450
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: if Kenny can't play in the game, we're already not

451
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna play in the game Friday.

452
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 3: According to Mary.

453
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: Kay, well, then maybe if he gets I guess maybe

454
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: if he got like all the one reps in the

455
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: joint practice tomorrow. But if he's got a hammy and

456
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: it's in the rain, does that even make sense to me?

457
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Speaker 4: It would just mean that that was they have seen

458
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 4: enough through the entirety of the off season program, and

459
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 4: this always was the logical conclusion to them, and so

460
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 4: that's what it is.

461
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be That would be an interesting thing to

462
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: do with in terms of the full team's been here

463
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: since the start of camp and have all seen it, right, Yeah,

464
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: that would be an interesting interesting thing to do. Yeah,

465
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know this tomorrow's practicing to be interesting.

466
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Speaker 2: Who's there who's not. Kevin's comments before the practice are

467
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: going to be interesting where everybody stands with all of this. Yeah,

468
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: the report for Mary Kay yesterday about Dylan probably not

469
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: playing in the preseason game was surprising to me because

470
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: you thought I watched him do eleven on eleven and

471
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: seemed fine, So that that part is surprising. And the

472
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: SNeW Puntley thing was a little surprising. And although I

473
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: think when you listen to the way z laid it out,

474
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Speaker 2: if there's an injury to schedure and and Joe starts

475
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: and shor gets a lion's share of the snaps in

476
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: that game, if that's the way it goes and he

477
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: were to go down, you wouldn't want to put Joe

478
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Speaker 2: back in there.

479
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: So in that instance that makes sense.

480
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: But that's also now following up the Mary Kay report

481
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: that neither Dylan nor Kenny would be willing or not

482
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: willing would be able to go Friday, or it could

483
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: be the team's choice not to allow them to.

484
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, it's as we said, it is a.

485
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: It's an it is an interesting situation, to say the

486
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Speaker 4: very least. This is a question that I think you

487
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Speaker 4: really wanted to have and we still have time for it,

488
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Speaker 4: but I think that you really want to have a

489
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: definitive answer to and obviously we've talked about all along

490
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 4: that you know, at the end of the season, what

491
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Speaker 4: you're really hoping to is have an idea of where

492
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks, where these quarterbacks land? Right like that is

493
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: in many ways, that's what you're hoping to find out,

494
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: is where where does this land at? That's what we

495
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 4: were interested in. Where do these rookies land. We have

496
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: the two first round picks next year? Is there a

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: scenario in which we can use those not on a

498
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: quarterback or as are we you know, destined to have

499
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: that be used on a quarterback? That's kind of it

500
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 4: feels like you know where we're at right now the

501
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 4: end full stop.

502
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah it does, and I it does.

503
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: I think it would be such a you have those

504
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: two veterans and kind of the way you go on that.

505
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: The thing that's tricky with all of this stuff is

506
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 2: a lot of what we've alluded to is just other

507
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 2: teams are playing under different under different rules. You know,

508
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: can Al just wants to play is ones quite a bit.

509
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: So how much of ours get in there? If any

510
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 2: I don't need to see seventy five. I don't need

511
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: to see ninety five or twenty one. Honestly, I don't

512
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: need to see three. Yeah, you know I don't. But

513
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: then if you're gonna put Joe out there, you got

514
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: to give them some guys.

515
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

516
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Speaker 6: You know.

517
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on. It does feel like

518
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: for a league that spends that In most of my

519
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: time around it, going back to years that I've been

520
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: doing this show with you, there is a lot of

521
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: group think in this league. It feels like right now

522
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: on preseason there isn't that. It's almost like every man

523
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: for themselves and everybody kind of has a different philosophy

524
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: on it.

525
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 4: That is one hundred percent the truth about it. There

526
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 4: is not a group think. There is a lot of

527
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 4: different philosophies about it, and you have not you We

528
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: thought maybe it would normalize over a few years. I

529
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 4: also think it just shows teams in very different spots.

530
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: Right The Rams are very content with what they've produced.

531
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: They feel like they're gonna go make a run out here.

532
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 4: The Bengals that they made the playoffs last year, maybe

533
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: they aren't doing this, but because they know they've lost

534
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: the opener year after year after year.

535
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: They don't want to do that anymore.

536
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: They want to start season one, to know, and they

537
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: probably look at it and say, you know what, we've

538
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: got the Cleveland Browns. We've got that's a division game.

539
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: We've got to go. I don't know if they're week two.

540
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: I haven't looked at their schedule. If they're like, I

541
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: don't know, but Jacksonville, I think, Okay, it's not Pittsburgh. Okay,

542
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: so they're not back to back division like we lost Jacksonville.

543
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: So you know, they want to start. I'm sure they

544
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: look at that and they said, we need to start

545
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 4: two and oh this year. So if it takes putting

546
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 4: in a little more work to make sure we are

547
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: crisp and start too, and oh, that's what we're gonna do.

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

549
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: They listen to their players too.

550
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: Burro has been pretty emphatic, like I want to play

551
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: in the preseason, I want some more reps. I want

552
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: to go.

553
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, I mean I think I think that's.

554
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Part of it too. And you saw Flacco and his

555
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: comments to Mike Silver about, you know, wanting more reps.

556
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: He said that with us, like they want to play.

557
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, It's it's wild when you come out here and

558
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: those of you who are out here for training camp,

559
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: you see it, how few snaps they get in team. Yes,

560
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: even if even if you said, even if you didn't

561
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: have a quarterback competition, you're like, all right, out goes

562
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: Joe Montana, All reps are his Steve Young, go get

563
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: a water.

564
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Speaker 6: Even if you.

565
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Did that, it's not that much. No, it's a dozen throws, yep.

566
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's so quick.

567
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: It's certainly not enough.

568
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: So it's just to the point where it's like you're

569
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: out there for such a limited time that even when

570
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 2: you know who your guy is, it's hard to get

571
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: him enough work. So first unofficial depth chart of the

572
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: season without quarterbacks listed as follows Flacco, Picket, Gabriel Sanders,

573
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: which is kind of how it's been in camp, especially

574
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Speaker 2: with the picket injury. Were One thing to remember on

575
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: the unofficial depth charts, those are put out there, mandated

576
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Speaker 2: by the league to be put out very early and

577
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: are done typically by pr right correct, So you won't

578
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Speaker 2: get an official one.

579
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Speaker 3: Until you get to right before the game. That's right

580
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Speaker 3: on Friday, So you are correct, right there, you go.

581
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Speaker 3: I wonder if he'll bring.

596
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: The Hoff over to walkouts and Toff couldn't walk out

597
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: in Madison, Like is the Hoff around? I know he's here,

598
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Like next week is he in the mix?

599
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: Could you bring them.

600
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: Nough fly the Hoff end to have him.

601
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: We're playing a preseason game, buddy, But that's Friday, right,

602
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 4: that's Saturday.

603
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: Well, Hoff could do it Friday, though.

604
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: In theory, a man of his means could be here Friday. Yeah,

605
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: and Philly Saturday.

606
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean you want Bernie to be to walk out

607
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: with him because he does that walk out then yeah,

608
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: like I think in the Bay Area he had Steve

609
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: Young and Barry Bonds.

610
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: Well, in Wisconsin and Madison, he in.

611
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: San Francisco he had Steve Young and right past that,

612
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 4: No he did not, Yes he did. He did not

613
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: have Joe Montana yet Steve, Steve Young, and Barry Bonds.

614
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: That's outrageous. Is that real? That's real?

615
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: Seriously, Yes, on.

616
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: Luca, Joe Montsett was not interested. He must have met

617
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: at his vineyard.

618
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, the first calls to sixteen, like sixteen

619
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Speaker 2: and Steph would be my first calls in the Bay

620
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Area Steph Curry and Joe That's right, That's what mine

621
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: would be.

622
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Speaker 4: So basically it's a second rate quarterback in a disgrace,

623
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Speaker 4: and he could have had pure Joe four known the

624
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, never lost Steph Curry. Yeah, the Golden Dagger,

625
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: all of it. Yep, Yeah, that doesn't make a lot

626
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: of sense if you ask me, Well, in Wisconsin in Madison. Yeah,

627
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: he walked out with Brett farre Okay, but then he

628
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: wore the Hofs jersey for a portion of the program.

629
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: I did see that, Yeah, which is very cool.

630
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: Which is where it's being efforts to be tracked down.

631
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: I said that should be first. All should sign that

632
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 4: and you should send that to you.

633
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

634
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So apparently there's they're trying to figure out where

635
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 2: that is.

636
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 4: Yeh, wardrobe somewhere, it's in a wardrobe, okay, closet.

637
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: All right, that's good to know. Like Jim Tomey would

638
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: be good here. M hmm, something like that. I mean,

639
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: Bernie's the a plus. Bernie and hoff would be my

640
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: first two.

641
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: And then maybe if some magic is in the offing,

642
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: Bernie and Lebron James.

643
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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's Morgan Wallin's. Does that add up?

644
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: No, it does.

645
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: Harry Bonds what does not?

646
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

647
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Maybe Bonds bonds a little older, a little older. Yeah,

648
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: I mean Bernie is the answer. Bernie's the right answer.

649
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bernie, and then Jim Tomy those would be my

650
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: if Hoffs unavailable, those would be Yeah, split those up

651
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: a little bit.

652
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: I could see it being Bernie in one.

653
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Speaker 2: Of the Paul's is a Grady size moral logan Paul

654
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Travis Hafner. They around logan Paul.

655
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

656
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: Are they beloved here?

657
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: It could be a Kelsey no beloved?

658
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: There you go. You could do the there you do

659
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Speaker 2: the Kelsey's baby.

660
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 6: That would work.

661
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, we go around

662
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Speaker 2: the league Hard Knocks with them. I did not realize

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Speaker 2: this Hard Knocks premieeres tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hard Knocks preperes premieres tonight, Bill the Bills.

665
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Speaker 4: It also is, uh, there's a podcast. Did you know

666
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Speaker 4: there's a pot Hard Knocks podcast, a companion podcast.

667
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Speaker 3: I did not know that that had been hosted.

668
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Speaker 4: By Peter Schrager that will be hosted by Andrew Siciliano

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 3: How about it?

671
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Speaker 2: Well, well, wends he is?

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Speaker 3: He is?

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Speaker 2: He around Siciliano around. God, he's right there, sucking down

674
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Speaker 2: a salad. When do you when do you record the

675
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Speaker 2: When do you record? Do you record it? Is it

676
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Speaker 2: already recorded?

677
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Speaker 3: You see?

678
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Speaker 2: What can you tell us?

679
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's seeing it. What can you tell us? Dry

680
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Land is not a myth?

681
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: He's got a bowl, he's trying to eat.

682
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Speaker 6: He's trying.

683
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Speaker 3: I've seen it.

684
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Speaker 4: Look at your bib, Look at your bib, look at

685
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Speaker 4: you two wins how it feels pretty good though specular. Yeah,

686
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Speaker 4: I only could see Gibbe on the screen for somehow.

687
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Speaker 2: I don't mean to interrupt your lunch, although we are,

688
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Speaker 2: but I did. I mean, I didn't know you were

689
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Speaker 2: doing it, and I so now I'm curious about the logistics.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, do we have him? Do we have him?

691
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: Young Brock, young Brock?

692
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Speaker 3: You got him?

693
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Speaker 9: Okay, watched it, Uh last night, it's in the camp.

694
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Speaker 2: So you do the The episode was edited final yesterday.

695
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 9: Enough of it, Yeah, like ninety percent. There are probably some.

696
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Speaker 3: Changes being made.

697
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Speaker 9: Hope I'm not giving away too many company secrets. But yeah,

698
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Speaker 9: it airs tonight. It's gonna be great. Okay, this year,

699
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Speaker 9: if I could just two cents, here is different because

700
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Speaker 9: like last year, for example, Caleb Williams and the Bears, right, yeah,

701
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 9: team of the first round pick, team trying to build something,

702
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Speaker 9: team with a coach, try to hold on right, all

703
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Speaker 9: these aspirations to get back to greatness. This is a

704
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Speaker 9: team that's won the division five straight years and it's

705
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Speaker 9: like Super.

706
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Speaker 3: Bowl or bust.

707
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Speaker 9: So it's totally different. You have the rating MVP coming back,

708
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Speaker 9: so it's a much different vibe. But it's a fun

709
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Speaker 9: show because much like the Browns, they have an amazing

710
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Speaker 9: fan base. I mean, they are in many ways known

711
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Speaker 9: for their fan base as much as their football. Yeah,

712
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Speaker 9: so that's a big part of the show.

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Speaker 4: If you are gonna do this podcast, do you have

714
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Speaker 4: to go through a table?

715
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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought about that.

717
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Speaker 9: Are our friend Michael Robinson is kind of an honorary

718
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Speaker 9: Bill's Baffia guy from where Penn State quarter niner right

719
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Speaker 9: Niner Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: He has just been pounding the table for them, like

722
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Speaker 9: the desk on television kind of table for so many

723
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Speaker 9: years that whenever he goes there, he does the table,

724
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Speaker 9: he does the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: See from that part of.

726
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Speaker 9: The he is not He's from Richmond, Virginia, still lives

727
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Speaker 9: in Richmond, Virginia and commutes all over the world.

728
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Speaker 2: All Right, how about don't answer anything that we'll get

729
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Speaker 2: in trouble because these are the These are a couple

730
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Speaker 2: of questions I have because you mentioned we did Bears

731
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Speaker 2: last year and then the year before we did Rogers,

732
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Speaker 2: and it was basically his own doc is what it was.

733
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of his thing. And we've

734
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Speaker 2: seen instances where teams are very happy to participate in

735
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Speaker 2: hard knocks and everything with their stars, and then you

736
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Speaker 2: have what happened here with Devin col Juice.

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Speaker 3: That was my question.

738
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Speaker 2: I mean we had broken Roeback Juice. We're all going on,

739
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Speaker 2: this is my that was my first year, and I'm like,

740
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Speaker 2: this is not represent what we're doing at all. So

741
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Speaker 2: from your okay, hold on, God, look at this made

742
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Speaker 2: of us and prayers? Is this the Monaco Grandees? How

743
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Speaker 2: is there an F one town? Is there an F

744
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Speaker 2: one race on the lake?

745
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Speaker 4: It feels like he's for Monica Will What is the

746
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen participation level?

747
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Speaker 9: Because then knowing only one episode is in the camp,

748
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Speaker 9: Josh Allen, certainly it is a feature on the show. Absolutely,

749
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Speaker 9: I mean he look, he just he just won the MVP,

750
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Speaker 9: married a movie star. Yeah, and is truly the man

751
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 9: of the people. You saw those videos where he was

752
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Speaker 9: signing autographs after practice a couple of weeks ago and

753
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 9: like girls are crying like it's the Beatles, right, and

754
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Speaker 9: and how how amazingly respectful he is, Like he approached

755
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Speaker 9: a couple of service members who were in uniform and

756
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Speaker 9: they were waiting for autographs and photos, and he took

757
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Speaker 9: his cap off right to be polite, had it behind

758
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Speaker 9: his back as he signing autographs.

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Speaker 3: By the way, anybody would do that, but.

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Speaker 9: It's it just speaks to how cool he is, how

761
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Speaker 9: humble he is, how man of the people he is,

762
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Speaker 9: which is obviously.

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Speaker 3: Perfect for Western New York. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 9: It'll be a cool show. Yeah, I'm excited. Five episodes.

765
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Speaker 9: First one drops tonight HBO, so yours will drop the episode,

766
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Speaker 9: the pod will will drop after the show. This first episode,

767
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 9: we have Bill's legend Ryan Fitzpatrick nice, So that's cool

768
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 9: telling some of his great Bills stories. He's also a

769
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Speaker 9: hard knocks veteran. He was there with the twenty seventeen Buccaneers,

770
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Speaker 9: which was a jamis heavy show. That was one to

771
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Speaker 9: remember where Gerald McCoy walked into training camp in a Komono.

772
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Speaker 2: Remember he checked in.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so he tells some stories from that, talks about

774
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Speaker 9: the Bills, and kind of admits that of the nine

775
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Speaker 9: teams that he played for, like in his heart, he's Buffalo,

776
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Speaker 9: even though he never had a winning record. They never

777
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Speaker 9: had a winning season when he was there. He is

778
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Speaker 9: still kind of mister Buffalo he is, and it fits

779
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 9: well fits Phoenix.

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Speaker 4: By the way, he was going through his phone the

781
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Speaker 4: other day he said something that he had like twenty

782
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Speaker 4: four mics in his phone and twenty six chrises, but

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Speaker 4: only one to Brickishaw.

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Speaker 9: So how about the fact that Brickshaw was named you

785
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Speaker 9: know that that remember the Thornbirds, that series.

786
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Speaker 3: You and I are Chamberlain.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he was named. Now, I didn't read that. That

788
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Speaker 9: was like something my mother read.

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Speaker 2: There's a mini series though. That was a huge deal

790
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Speaker 2: that my mind was locked in.

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Speaker 9: For Brickishaw was a character in the books.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, well, you know the Scottish hammer was

793
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Speaker 4: named for the titular character of Outlander.

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Speaker 3: I I did not know that. Yeah, Jamie, that's exciting,

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Exciting episodes.

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Speaker 2: This was very exciting. Get in the middle of your

797
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Speaker 2: snacks and you and giving your dress to life. Like

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Speaker 2: everybody way, he's.

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Speaker 9: A Georgia Marason on Billy Crystal.

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Speaker 2: It's lovely everybody. On the first unofficial depth chart of

801
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Speaker 2: the season, the Jaguars have listed was Hunter as a

802
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: starting wide receiver and second string quarter. So that mirrors

803
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Speaker 2: what Andrew had said the plan would be as he

804
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Speaker 2: was drafted here, which is go start and be a weapon.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what, dude, that offense if Trevor

806
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: Lawrence who I've I just don't understand why it hasn't

807
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: clicked yet. If it don't click with this offense with

808
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Speaker 2: Thomas and Hunter and the backs, if not, now when

809
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: when brother, when it's time to go. They got weapons

810
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Speaker 2: out the wazoo.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas's dougit dude, legit?

812
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Speaker 2: So's this kid?

813
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a dude.

814
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Speaker 2: He's absolutely a dude. Other NFL quarterback news Toeddy Bridgewater

815
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Speaker 2: expected to sign a one year deal with the Tampa

816
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Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. He was coaching high school football at Miami Northwestern,

817
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Speaker 2: his alma mater. He was suspended from the school this

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Speaker 2: summer from impersonal, impermissible benefits, including paying for food, uber rides,

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Speaker 2: and other services.

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Speaker 3: This is the most Ridicut's suppost really say I've ever

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Speaker 3: heard my life.

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Speaker 2: This is his alma mater. Out of his own pocket.

823
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Speaker 2: He was making sure kids could get the practice, food,

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Speaker 2: got to practice, get to school. He's doing that of

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Speaker 2: his own and the State of Florida has suspended him.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: That is a joke, by the way, it should be

828
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Speaker 2: just as you're damn right, and just across the damn

829
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Speaker 2: peninsula at IMG, they're paying for everything and they're all

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Speaker 2: in the same. I mean, that's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: He is very good.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned this earlier. Zach Taylor told reporters that Joe

833
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Speaker 2: Burrow and the other big name players will play several series.

834
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Speaker 2: On Thursday night against the Eagles, more in Game two

835
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Speaker 2: against the Commis. So you're going to see a lot

836
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Speaker 2: of those Bengals players in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Be very curious to see what Kevin does. It seems

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Speaker 2: like all the coaches are kind of just saying, hey,

839
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Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. We don't know what Kevin's

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00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: doing yet. He was asked about it yesterday, says there

841
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: will be a time for that. Maybe it's tomorrow, who knows,

842
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: But a lot of these coaches are kind of just

843
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: putting it out there what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. It's the preseason. Wins and losses

845
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 4: don't matter. No, No, it's just development. Brother, that's right.

846
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Speaker 2: The Rams have signed running back Kian Williams a three year,

847
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollar contract extension with twenty three of

848
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Speaker 2: it guaranteed. He's the first Rams running back to sign

849
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Speaker 2: a long term extension since Todd Gurley in twenty eighteen.

850
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Speaker 2: I would bet much less money than Todd Gurley got

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Speaker 2: in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen, probably relative to the time. What do you think?

853
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: What do you think Todd got an eighteen? Did you

854
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: get a monster deal?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he did, But what was a monster deal

856
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: for a running back?

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Speaker 5: And play?

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Speaker 2: I feel like they're making less than they did. Then

859
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, but I know you're probably right. I

860
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Speaker 2: bet he got maybe fifteen. That's what I'm thinking is

861
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Speaker 2: that it maybe even more. Todd got a big deal.

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Speaker 2: You got a brock?

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: It was a four year, sixty million, forty five guaranteed, so.

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Speaker 3: Way more fifteen, way more?

867
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Speaker 2: Yeah, forty double the guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: He was also the best running back to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, but double the guaranteed seven years ago. Sure,

870
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: but tells you where running backs but kind of the

871
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: running back thing is gone. But hold on one second,

872
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: you'd have to do like Saquon.

873
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Speaker 3: Something Saquon didn't take on get twenty.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know what he got guaranteed though,

875
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: What's what was his guarantee on it?

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley just got two years forty one point two

877
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: million with thirty six guaranteed, So so less than no

878
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Speaker 4: more than Gurley two years, he said.

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Speaker 2: Gurley got forty some guaranteed for four years, four years

880
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: forty five million guarantee. Yeah, but forty five guaranteed. And

881
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Speaker 2: the most that Sekon can get, as you said, thirty is.

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Speaker 4: Getting thirty six and guaranteed and two years though yeah

883
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Speaker 4: half the time.

884
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, for sure, but just in terms of

885
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: overall guaranteed money, you will see every penny of this.

886
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Speaker 3: Eighteen more.

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Speaker 2: On a year to year basis. You're right, But just

888
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Speaker 2: in terms of overall guaranteed it does speak a little

889
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Speaker 2: bit to what's happened to the running back situation over

890
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Speaker 2: the last last few years.

891
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Speaker 3: And unless you're really special, it's hard. No's right.

892
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: The special guy at least is still making more than

893
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: the special guy in eighteen made on a four year basis.

894
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Speaker 3: No, that's good.

895
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Speaker 4: Five ft Kyne was a fifth round draft pick, if

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Speaker 4: I have that right off the top of my head,

897
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Speaker 4: he would know the answer that for sure.

898
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Speaker 3: Fifth. I think so they drafted Blake Korham last year

899
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Speaker 3: in the third round. I want to say thank you.

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Speaker 4: And I thought that he was gonna usurp and I

901
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: will tell you that in the preseason last year, mister

902
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 4: Siliano said he will not or maybe it was a

903
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: week early in the season because I.

904
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Speaker 3: Had I had a lot of Blake Quorum stocks on.

905
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: My fantasy teams. He was like, yeah, that will not

906
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Speaker 4: be happening. They are quite big on on Kyra and Williams.

907
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Speaker 3: Here you go.

908
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: And so he was spot on as he was very

909
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Speaker 4: well connected at the with the with the RAMS organization.

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Speaker 2: We were having a conversation earlier about the panthers lack

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Speaker 2: of indoor facility. Josh Loyal listener with this. The Panthers

912
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Speaker 2: were to build a new indoor practicly in rock Hill,

913
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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Quarterway through the new owner pulled the plug

914
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Speaker 2: due to disagreement with local officials. The half built structure

915
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Speaker 2: is still standing down there. So they had started it

916
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Speaker 2: and then not one other thing. I want to mention

917
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Speaker 2: before we get out of here. I was down in Columbus,

918
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Speaker 2: Ohio State camp on Thursday and Friday and guy came

919
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Speaker 2: up to me, introduced himself. Listens every single day down there,

920
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Speaker 2: Jude Putnam. He goes, can you give me a shout out?

921
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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I can listens every single day to

922
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Speaker 2: clean things.

923
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Speaker 3: Buddy, Hey Jude, a song about that great song? Great song?

924
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Speaker 3: How about holds up quite quite well?

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Speaker 7: A gentleman. Yesterday after practice he was looking. You guys

926
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Speaker 7: had already well, he was filming. You had left. Yeah,

927
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Speaker 7: and he said, hey, the guy is still here. I said, unfortunately,

928
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Speaker 7: you know Nation's tape and he's got obligations. But the

929
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Speaker 7: guy is from Canada. Yeah, Rove pctice, how about it?

930
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 7: That's beautiful talk to little Niagara Golf. There you go,

931
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 7: good dude. Shout out to him and his wife. I

932
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Speaker 7: believe Matt was his name, but like he's like, I

933
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Speaker 7: listened all the time.

934
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Speaker 3: It's beautiful, beautiful shout outs. I got doing because I

935
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Speaker 3: feel I did not see this scarlet.

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Speaker 2: There you got the cad Klubnik early scouting reports. Go ahead,

937
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: he's a Syracuse there, he's a Clemson kid. What do

938
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Speaker 2: you want?

939
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Speaker 4: Guy came and he was like he wanted to. He

940
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Speaker 4: came down and wanted to is gonna bring his ZW shirt.

941
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Speaker 4: DJ SoCal eighty six. I didn't see this that I'll

942
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Speaker 4: be a Browns training camp. Can I get your autograph?

943
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: He has a ZWO T shirt, so we'll get that side.

944
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Speaker 4: You said it to me shirt, you can send it here.

945
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Speaker 4: I'll set it back to you on my dime. I'm

946
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Speaker 4: happy to do it, or we'll have to connect a game.

947
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Speaker 7: He did showed up again. It was after practice and

948
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Speaker 7: I said, look, I I just I don't know if

949
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Speaker 7: I can.

950
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Speaker 2: Scatter him over here.

951
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've scattered at that point. Maybe he'll be down.

952
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: Maybe, David, if you're listening and I'm gonna follow you back,

953
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: shoot me a message. Maybe you'll be at the when

954
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: we played the Bengals. He says here that he lives

955
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Speaker 4: in Louisville. Louisville, he is Kentucky and the Bengal Kentucky.

956
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Speaker 2: Right it is yeah, all right, Ze goos one on

957
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Speaker 2: one with Cedric Tillman. Gonna have a big year from him.

958
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have that to look forward to, which is nice.

959
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964
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Speaker 4: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's. Very happy

966
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: to once again be joined by Cedric Till'm a great

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Speaker 4: friend of the program.

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Speaker 3: All right, said game week.

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Speaker 4: Finally, I'm sure it's probably seemed like a long time

970
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: since you guys first kind of got out here at

971
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Speaker 4: the Cross Country Mortgage campus, started going through training camp.

972
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Speaker 3: Now we get to go to Charlotte tomorrow.

973
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: You get a joint practice against somebody else wearing a

974
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: different uniform, doesn't know your plays, doesn't know your concepts,

975
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: doesn't know your keys, and then you get a preseason game.

976
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Speaker 4: How exciting is is that?

977
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Speaker 3: Prospect?

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Speaker 5: That's pretty exciting?

979
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Speaker 10: You know, these weeks have gone by fast, and you know,

980
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 10: I think that the season is here already, is crazy,

981
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 10: you know, but the whole team, including myself, excited to

982
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 10: go out there and compete against.

983
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Speaker 4: Now, yesterday you were able to relax a little bit

984
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: kind of what's the mindset? Practice today, travel tomorrow, joint

985
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: practice off, game off? Do you actually this week is

986
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: pretty good off Sunday as well? If I'm not mistaken,

987
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Speaker 4: this week's pretty good. So when you have a situation

988
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Speaker 4: or set up like that, is it like you know

989
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Speaker 4: you have a built in day of recovery kind of

990
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Speaker 4: after every day?

991
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Speaker 3: Does that help you get more after it?

992
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Speaker 10: You know, recovery time is always good. But you know,

993
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 10: for me, I don't really look too deep into the schedule.

994
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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 10: I know we have a game this weekend, but I'm

996
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Speaker 10: just taking it one day at a time. I show

997
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Speaker 10: up where I'm supposed to be and compete.

998
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: One rep at a time, one rip out of time,

999
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: one practice at a time. Coaches would be very hit there.

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Speaker 4: We'll make sure they see this. We'll be like, Seed

1001
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Speaker 4: gets it. Seed's got it right there. You've been battling

1002
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Speaker 4: a little bit with Denzel Ward out there. That's been

1003
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Speaker 4: fun to see. What do you learn you know from him?

1004
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: Thinking about back to when you were a rookie to

1005
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Speaker 4: where you are now going against a guy like Denzel

1006
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Speaker 4: Ward and practice every day.

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Speaker 10: Denzel is just a really good player, you know, he's

1008
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Speaker 10: one of the best at what he does, so you know,

1009
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Speaker 10: just studying him, being able to go against him, and

1010
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 10: you know the other corners on the team, but you know,

1011
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 10: obviously hiding Denzel, expecting a big year for him, and

1012
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Speaker 10: he's only getting better.

1013
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Speaker 4: You're a big man, Yeah, you are a bigger man

1014
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: than Denzel Ward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a strong guy.

1016
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Speaker 4: Is it kind of surprising how just how physical he

1017
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Speaker 4: is because you guys have had some real physical battles.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously.

1019
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Speaker 10: I think Denzel knows too that when we go against

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Speaker 10: each other, this may look a little different than maybe

1021
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Speaker 10: some of the other receivers, but now, you know, overall,

1022
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Speaker 10: a really good corner, like I said, one of the best,

1023
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Speaker 10: and it's always fun going against him.

1024
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Speaker 4: Do you like the drill they've added to the one

1025
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Speaker 4: on ones now where it's kind of like a bubble

1026
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: screen where you actually get to go like block the

1027
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Speaker 4: dB or Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I absolutely do love it because you know, when they

1029
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Speaker 10: hold a little bit, I can kind of take it

1030
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Speaker 10: out on them during that time, so it's cool.

1031
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Speaker 3: That's like your revenge. Yeah, absolutely, all right.

1032
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Speaker 4: I liked that going into Carolina, going in the preseason opener,

1033
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Speaker 4: kind of where you're at with this team. It's a

1034
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Speaker 4: little different probably for you than in years past. You know,

1035
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Speaker 4: your Rockie season. Obviously you want to go out there

1036
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Speaker 4: and flash, and you certainly did that in the preseason,

1037
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Speaker 4: and now you want to go out there and have

1038
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to be like get good work, but also

1039
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Speaker 4: with an eye towards the season opener. How has that

1040
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Speaker 4: kind of like changed your look to it? And what

1041
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: do you hope to do when we get on the

1042
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Speaker 4: field on Friday down in Carolina?

1043
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Speaker 5: On the mentalities stays the same.

1044
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Speaker 10: You don't want to go out there and compete, you know,

1045
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 10: kind of show everybody what I can do, and you know,

1046
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 10: show myself what I can do. You know, So taking

1047
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Speaker 10: it one day at a time. Uh, Gonna try to

1048
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 10: make the players when I go up there and uh

1049
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Speaker 10: and looking forward to it.

1050
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Speaker 4: What's one thing that you really worked on this offseason

1051
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: that you're seeing kind of come to fruition here so

1052
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: far in the started training camp that has you excited?

1053
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Speaker 7: Uh?

1054
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Speaker 5: Just overall a better football player.

1055
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Speaker 10: That means mentally and physically, Uh, you know, being able

1056
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 10: to trying to run all day, Uh, you know, being

1057
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Speaker 10: that consistent player and just trying to clean up some

1058
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 10: of the maybe giveaways in my game. So dB, stay honest, all.

1059
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Speaker 3: Right, So let's dive into that.

1060
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: So you're saying that you felt in the past you

1061
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Speaker 4: maybe had some tells that would allow the dB to

1062
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Speaker 4: know perhaps what was coming.

1063
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Speaker 3: And how did you discover that and how do you

1064
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: clean that up?

1065
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Speaker 10: Just obviously talking to the coaches obviously I have a trainer, uh,

1066
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Speaker 10: and then obviously talking to guys like Greg and Denzel uh.

1067
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Speaker 10: And then just watching myself on film. You know, you

1068
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 10: want to make every route look the same. So that's

1069
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 10: just kind of what I try to do.

1070
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Speaker 4: Joe Flaco, Bernie Cosar both have talked about you, and

1071
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Speaker 4: they love the way you catch the ball with your

1072
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: hands and use your body. You have that big frame

1073
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 4: and you go up there. I said, when you're catching

1074
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: it out there, there are a couple of traffic. It

1075
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Speaker 4: reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald, who I think is maybe

1076
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Speaker 4: the best hands catcher of all time. How do you

1077
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Speaker 4: kind of get that technique to the point where you're

1078
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Speaker 4: able to take it from maybe a jugs machiner out there,

1079
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Speaker 4: but take it out to the field and be such

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Speaker 4: a good hands catcher, which is, I'm told, makes you

1081
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Speaker 4: very quarterback friendly.

1082
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Since I was little, I've been taught, you know,

1083
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 5: to catch with your hands.

1084
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Speaker 7: You know.

1085
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 10: Obviously there's times that you know, you may have to

1086
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 10: catch it differently, but I always like to catch the

1087
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Speaker 10: ball with my hands down in front of me because

1088
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 10: it gives me the best chance to catch the ball

1089
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 10: in my opinion. So I just try to keep it

1090
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 10: real fundamental and you know, just simple catch and tuck.

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite play of training camp so far?

1092
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Speaker 10: My favorite player of training camp so far? I mean,

1093
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Speaker 10: I don't know, there's been a lot. It's probably not

1094
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 10: even my player's probably can you know, see some of

1095
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 10: the younger guys kind of go out there and perform, so,

1096
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 10: you know, I just like to see how they work

1097
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 10: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Is it fun that you get to talk about the

1099
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: younger guys that's not you anymore?

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Speaker 10: No, it's still you know, it's still me. Sorry, Yeah,

1101
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 10: you know, it's still me. You know, I'm still you know,

1102
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 10: getting the ropes and stuff like that too. But I'm twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five, Okay, I'm not quite double Yeah, twenty.

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Speaker 10: Five, So I ain't hate unc agean or anything like

1105
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 10: that yet. Like I said, it's cool. That's cool.

1106
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Speaker 4: Overall, how do you feel about this offense and kind

1107
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: of where it's getting getting ready to crescendo? Obviously in

1108
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: the opener against the Bengals, you.

1109
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 10: Know, I feel confident. I feel like we got some

1110
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 10: good pieces on offense. I feel like as the days

1111
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 10: go on, we're becoming more consistent. And I think that's

1112
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 10: the biggest thing with us. If we can take well,

1113
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 10: we're going to take those pre snap penalties away. We're

1114
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 10: going to take a lot of those penalties. I heard

1115
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 10: us last year. We learned from it. We're gonna come

1116
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 10: back this year and you know we're gonna change that.

1117
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 10: So when we're able to play fast, play full speed

1118
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 10: and no flags or anything like that, I think we

1119
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 10: can be a good offense.

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Speaker 4: Last one and a very serious one. Have you worked

1121
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: on a touchdown celebration for this season?

1122
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the touchdown celebrations ready, man.

1123
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 10: So you know, I just gotta go score. Now, we

1124
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 10: just gotta go score. So you know, obviously you got

1125
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Speaker 10: to get in the end zone first. But when I

1126
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Speaker 10: get in there, it's gonna be fun.

1127
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 4: Said, this is fun. Appreciate the time and the best

1128
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Speaker 4: of luck. On Friday, and obviously the whole way leading

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Speaker 4: up to this season.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: partner of your Cleveland Browns. We're gonna be doing a

1146
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Speaker 2: joint practice tomorrow, my friend. It'll happen down in Carolina.

1147
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: It will likely happen if we looked if we looked

1148
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: at like a an hour by hour.

1149
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: I haven't looked at hour by it, but I've looked

1150
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: at enough to see bad.

1151
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: That it's gonna rain a lot. Brother, Yes, kind of

1152
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: where we're at. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna pull it

1153
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: up here. Let's get it a nice Give me a

1154
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: Charlotte for tomorrow. At what time are we doing? Remember

1155
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: the the ACU weather fork, the ACU weather app was

1156
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: undefeated this sprint.

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00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: No, it's been heads at it's real strong.

1158
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 7: You want to compare to weather dot com Now I

1159
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 7: crushed weather.

1160
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: It's already over. Oh my god, it's dude right now

1161
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: in Charlotte. It's just straight up thunderstorms for hours. That's right,

1162
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: it's been going on. It goes on until it's thunderstorm

1163
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: still seven and then it's just straight up rain a

1164
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: till eleven PM. And then it fires back up at

1165
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: three am. And then tomorrow at eleven and noon is thunderstorms.

1166
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if you guys moved up time.

1167
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, probably in the morning.

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00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, like to make sure it looks like.

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00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 7: You're moving to afternoon where there's only a thirty percent

1170
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 7: chance or forty percent.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm looking at I'm looking afternoon downtown Charlotte

1172
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: noon sixty four, forty nine, forty nine, fifty four, forty

1173
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: nine percent thunderstorm at three o'clock.

1174
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: And then it's, you know, kind of straight through.

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00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 7: It's gonna beautiful, mane.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's brutal, it is not. Actually, honestly, you're

1177
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: your this is your rain chances. Don't do hour by hour,

1178
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: but rain chances obviously one hundred percent today down there

1179
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: then eighty eight, eighty eight, eighty eight, eighty eight. It's

1180
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: not until Saturday that they get a reprieve forty, so

1181
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: even the game on Friday could be in the showers developing.

1182
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: Later in the day on Friday, fantastic.

1183
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: Bring your rain gear, yeah, bring a slicker.

1184
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 7: You're on your galoshes.

1185
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: You gonna need a galosh thank god. What was your

1186
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: rain gear choice? How did you stay? What was what

1187
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: were your had? I had the full team rain gear.

1188
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a Nike Storm fit.

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Speaker 4: But like there was a couple of games where it

1190
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: it was too much for it.

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00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: It overtook even the gortex.

1192
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: Cortex, yeah, too much.

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 4: That one we had the back to back I think

1194
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 4: it was Houston and the Raiders and Eagles.

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever that season was, Yeah, that one.

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00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: That one where you just got swamped. Yeah, there's a

1197
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: point where it takes on soap where it can only

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00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: take so much and then it's broken, like you don't

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Speaker 2: get it back.

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Speaker 3: The court takes it.

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Speaker 7: Like walking out the built out this morning, I'm like, oh,

1202
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 7: let me grab that jacket because I know that that

1203
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 7: can hold it off as long as humanly possible.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I brought nothing for the ring?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's great. I look forward to you complaining about.

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00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: You better believe it, among other things.

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Speaker 7: Well, it could be a great many that are complete

1208
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 7: about tomorrow show could be really one timer.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's in play. It's very much in play.

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Speaker 2: All right, give us we're gonna do well. First of all,

1211
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Speaker 2: it's news of the day, just to refresh for the

1212
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: folks just joining us here in the second hour. Uh

1213
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: Snoop Huntley is back. He is a fifth quarterback added

1214
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 2: to the room. This is in reaction. We think we've

1215
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: not heard from Kevin. Uh, but we believe this is

1216
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: a reaction to the fact that Kenny Pickett Dylan Gabriel

1217
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: both battling hamstrings. Uh. And then she do Sanders head

1218
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: arm soreness over the weekend, although that seems to be

1219
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: completely high and so he's good to go and z

1220
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 2: kind of out. In terms of Friday, if it goes

1221
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: this way, it makes sense to me. We saw the

1222
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Speaker 2: Mary Kay report from yesterday that neither Dylan nor Kenny

1223
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Speaker 2: were probably going to play in the game on Friday.

1224
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: So if that is the case, if Joe starts it

1225
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: and then Shador goes for a long time, the signing

1226
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: of Huntley would make sense. If there were some injury

1227
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Speaker 2: to Shador and then he could go in and play,

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00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: that would make some sense to me.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense to me right for that reason alone,

1230
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Speaker 4: or if they do not want to play Joe Flacco

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00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: at all. Yeah, but that really would be the only

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Speaker 4: reason that this would make a great deal of sense

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just saw all four of them practice yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: doctor J, Doctor J. I'm getting ready.

1236
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: When he was talking about catching on that jugs machine,

1237
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Speaker 2: I just had the video. I mean, like thought, because

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Speaker 2: you guys did it.

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00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 6: We did it.

1240
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Speaker 3: We went, we did the balls around. Yeah, we had

1241
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 3: to catch.

1242
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went and had a catch. I mean there

1243
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: was a chance that potentially he was going to bring

1244
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: you out of retirement and all your greatness would be

1245
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: unfurled again.

1246
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: Yep.

1247
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: But instead it was a quick dress rehearsal. Well, it

1248
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: was a throw.

1249
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 7: Catch A throw could be debatable, it was the throw.

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Speaker 7: Very nice you all right?

1251
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: Five things that you're watching for in the joint practices

1252
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: in Carolina, Duck di z.

1253
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: Where do we begin? I mean, the number one thing

1254
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: is the quarterbacks.

1255
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 6: Right.

1256
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 4: We don't even know what the quarterbacks are going to

1257
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: be though, so that is that's a tough one to say.

1258
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: I don't know who's even gonna get reps in these

1259
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 4: joint practices. Now, I think in an ideal world they

1260
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: all get reps in the joint practice and then you

1261
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: are more judicious in the game. I'd be fine with that.

1262
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: But so that's number one. Is is it just the quarterbacks?

1263
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: Who's starting, who's playing, who's getting first team reps? Are

1264
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: we at a point where we're just going to say,

1265
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: all right, it's Flacco and pick it only for the

1266
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: first team? Does Gabriel get any first team reps? Do

1267
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: Picket and Gable participate at all?

1268
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1269
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: So that's number one. Well, let's stay there just for

1270
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: a second. I think the one to really watch on

1271
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: that is Picket. Yes, Like I do think at some point,

1272
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: I know he's been here a long time and I

1273
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: know they like him, and obviously he'd be the preferred

1274
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: choice to start the season if it goes that way.

1275
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: But I do think at some point he needs to

1276
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: have several days consistently of playing and yeah, repping, and

1277
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: that hasn't happened in over a week. I mean, he

1278
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: threw seven on seven yesterday and he threw like warm up,

1279
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: but he didn't do any eleven on eleven and hasn't

1280
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: since what a week from a week ago Saturday. Yeah,

1281
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: it's been that long atince he's Yeah, I think I

1282
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: think Bernie talked to him a week ago Saturday after

1283
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: that practice, didn't mention anything with a hammy. Then it

1284
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: was out all last week. Yeah, so it's been a

1285
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 2: long time. Like he's got to get repping'.

1286
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: The last play last rep he had was a rollout

1287
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: touchdown pass to one of the tight ends. I think

1288
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: it was Brendan Beats, the Brendan Beeks a Blake Whiteheart

1289
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: and he threw two touchdowns in that period, but to

1290
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: those tight ends. So that's I mean, that's just that's

1291
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: number one by a mile. Yes, after that, you know Tillman, Thrash,

1292
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson, DeAndre Carter. How does that group perform? This

1293
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: is obviously I think for Deontay Johnson maybe a bigger

1294
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: return than most preseason.

1295
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: Games might be.

1296
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: And then beyond that, Luke Florida and Gage Larvadan, who

1297
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: have definitely separated themselves and have looked very, very good.

1298
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: Can that continue? Are these guys that can compete to

1299
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: be the sixth receiver on this team? Are these guys

1300
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: that can you know, perhaps you know, push somebody else

1301
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 4: off of this roster?

1302
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: And then the third one would be.

1303
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: Real quick on that? Are you still strong on five?

1304
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: It feels like or does it feel like it could

1305
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: be six?

1306
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 4: It could be it could be I mean, like I

1307
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: have kind of my greens and yellows. You know, the

1308
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: sixth receiver spot is a yellow. But that would require

1309
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: you know, to come from an offensive lineman, to come

1310
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 4: from a quarterback, come from you know, they keep four quarterbacks.

1311
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: You're not keeping six receivers. Yeah, and now how many

1312
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: running backs are we keeping? Because we don't even know

1313
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: when Quinchon comes in? You have no idea if he

1314
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: signs he's going to be on the fifty three.

1315
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't At this point, it's hard for

1316
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: me to see a scenario where you don't have four

1317
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the fifty three with all the injuries.

1318
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 4: I know how tough that is, but like I think

1319
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 4: that that'll be these seem I mean, they all they

1320
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: both through yesterday and we're from the opener.

1321
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: You're either trading somebody or you're cutting somebody of those four. Yeah,

1322
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's just the way that it works. Yeah,

1323
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: So are they really willing to do that?

1324
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: You know? I mean it seems to me like it's.

1325
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: Like Dylan and I'm sorry that Pickett and Flacco are

1326
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: far and away the two they trust the most, and

1327
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: Pickett's been hurt for a week.

1328
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they still have a Yeah again, you know.

1329
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: Like you're not gonna that's why it's number one. Yeah,

1330
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I know.

1331
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 4: To me, it feels like you're gonna have four on

1332
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: that number three For me, is gonna be the cornerbacks

1333
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: beyond Denzel and Greg and I would imagine we won't

1334
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: see either one of them who who can make some

1335
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: plays there, you know, chigaz A and Usium undrafted free

1336
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 4: agent Cam Mitchell was a fifth round pick, Tony Brown,

1337
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: undrafted free agent, Dom Jones, undrafted free agent rookie Lamary

1338
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: and James, undrafted free agent rookie Keenan Isaac, undrafted free

1339
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: agent Miles Harden, seventh round pick Nick neaed him a

1340
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 4: veteran league but an undrafted free agent. I mean, we're

1341
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: our cornerback room has a first two first round picks,

1342
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: Greg Newsom and Denzel Ward, and then after that it

1343
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: has one, two, three, four, five, six undrafted free agents,

1344
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: seven undrafted free agents, a fifth rounder, and a seventh rounder.

1345
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna get I think this receiver room for

1346
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: Carolina has got some really sneaky guys deep in the

1347
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: depth chart. I think you're gonna like Jimmy Horn junior. Yeah,

1348
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: he was at Colorado last year. Ye now he fell

1349
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: to the sixth time. I liked watching him on tape.

1350
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: He was the one who was in the slot. He

1351
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 2: was in the slot. Yeah, he wore five.

1352
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: He made a lot of big plays he did.

1353
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a nice player in the sixth round.

1354
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: Me too. I know't maybe just the top end speed

1355
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: wasn't there, but he always got open at Colorado. Now

1356
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: they had Travis so that helps. Insurer was excellent at Colorado,

1357
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: so all those things help. But like he's someone to watch.

1358
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: And then they got if you think they got uh,

1359
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: obviously McMillan's there guy.

1360
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: You love they got McMillan, they got legit. Yeah, and

1361
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: they got those are two back to back first round picks.

1362
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 4: Theel Hunter Renfros trying to make a comeback. David Moore's

1363
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: got some good size and has been in the league

1364
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: for nine years. Mentioned Jimmy Horn. They've got a good

1365
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 4: tight end that they like, Jatavian Sanders, who was their

1366
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: fourth round pick out of Texas, who's very much a receiver.

1367
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: They can run it with Hubbard. They drafted etn out

1368
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: of Carol out of Georgia. I'm sorry, Yeah, there's a

1369
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: lot to like about this team, and they're there line.

1370
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: You know, you've got a first round left tackle and Ikwanu.

1371
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: You've got Damian Lewis. You've got Corbett former Brown who's

1372
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 4: become a very good player. Robert Hunt was a Pro

1373
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: bowler last year. Their right guard, Taylor Moten is a

1374
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: nine year veteran, a former second round pick. I mean,

1375
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: they've got They've got some dudes. They've got some dudes.

1376
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm excited to watch the battle of our defensive line

1377
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: against their offensive line.

1378
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: For sure.

1379
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: I think that'll be a very good battle for us.

1380
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: And then the other one is what's this running game

1381
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: looking like? You know it was supposed to be in

1382
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 4: so many not in so many words. Built in large

1383
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 4: part around the reason that the Browns like Quinn Shawn

1384
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: Judkins more than Travion is because they felt like he

1385
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 4: could be Well, that guy was a featured back, a hammer,

1386
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 4: a guy that you know can handle the riggers of

1387
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five carries and be, you know, the centerpiece

1388
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: of your offense.

1389
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 3: Now, Travion was the one. I didn't realize that was

1390
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: what they were looking for.

1391
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: I thought, just watching Travion, I you know, you go

1392
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 4: back to my mock drafts at Browns dot Com. I

1393
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 4: always had a state trade backs. I just that' I

1394
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 4: like that explosive.

1395
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: Home run.

1396
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: And probably the best pass protecting running back to come

1397
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: in there a time like he's just ready to go.

1398
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah they know all about it.

1399
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that's it, Like you're gonna have to

1400
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: I think something that you're going to kind of figure

1401
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: out this week and you're absolutely next week. Is what

1402
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: exactly is our plan about going about our business offensively?

1403
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: How are we going to have success on the offensive

1404
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: side of the ball. What does that look like when

1405
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: we're at our best, Because so much of what I

1406
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: thought we would be was predicated on quin Shaw in

1407
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: the ground game and then play action off of that

1408
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: with the deep shots, taking care of the ball, don't

1409
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: turn it over, something that Kenny can be pretty good with,

1410
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: play clean, and so much of that is gone by

1411
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: the wayside with what happened with quin Shawn in terms

1412
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: of and we still don't have any sort of answer

1413
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: on that. Yeah, so then those other guys hold up,

1414
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, as go to guys that one game.

1415
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: We don't know. That is the question.

1416
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 4: It's there's a lot here, man, there is a lot,

1417
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: a lot a lot here.

1418
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 6: It is.

1419
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of questions.

1420
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 4: And then i'd say the probably the fifth thing I

1421
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: want to see if I didn't get to five, maybe

1422
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 4: I did, Maybe I'll give you a bonus, Carson Sweestinger.

1423
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: You didn't get to five, But then linebackers, I'll just

1424
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: give you a bonus here for charity.

1425
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 6: What do you need.

1426
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean, how many you want?

1427
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 4: You want to to watch these linebackers? How's the kicking game?

1428
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 4: What is DeAndre? Do we actually have a returner?

1429
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: I think this is from a preseason football perspective. If

1430
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: Dylan can get healthy and we can see him and

1431
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: we get to see a lot of twelve and a

1432
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: lot of five yes over the next couple of weeks,

1433
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: that's fun. And I think it's going to be the

1434
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: rare instance where like the fourth quarter of a preseason

1435
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: game is much watch, slash much listen. I really think

1436
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: think so because I think all you go to a

1437
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: practice and of those of you who are out here

1438
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: over the last couple of weeks of training camp practice,

1439
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: there's not enough time to get this work in no time,

1440
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: there's none. So these games for those guys, I mean,

1441
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: all of the reps that Shadour is not getting in practice,

1442
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: if he gets them on Friday night in Carolina and

1443
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: he gets them Saturday night in Philly, Okay, then you're

1444
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: gonna get a feel.

1445
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to keep manage expectations for myself.

1446
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: They're managed, dude, based on I mean, if you go

1447
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: to camp and you listen to what we're telling you

1448
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: in camp like this is to me, now a two

1449
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: person quarterback competition with the two rookies, I mean then

1450
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Dylan and then Shadour beyond that, but a ways back. Yep,

1451
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: that's the way that it's viewed in the organization by

1452
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Spanskin his coaching staff. So we are making it

1453
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: abundantly clear that that's the way that it is.

1454
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: Yes, that is the way it is. I'm just curious

1455
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: how much we get to see him on Friday. Yeah,

1456
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think what you want to see for both.

1457
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: That's why I said, like it's Dylan and him.

1458
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: Of course you want to see I sink.

1459
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: I said this yesterday on the show, like give the

1460
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: first half to Dylan, the second half to Shadur next

1461
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: week in Philly inver opposite, Yes, let's go.

1462
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: But that I think that those plans that you and I,

1463
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 4: because that's exactly what we said. I think that's the

1464
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 4: supposition in that was that they were on a level

1465
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: playing field in the eyes of or at the same

1466
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: level the two rookies. The two rookies were at the

1467
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: same level competing.

1468
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: Yes they're not. They're not. No, Dylan is here and

1469
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: Chador is here.

1470
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: So I don't know that you would even see that

1471
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: type of equitable distribution.

1472
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: Then let Dylan start them both and have Shoudur just

1473
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: play the second half.

1474
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 4: Which would be fine, fine, fine, Yeah, those are the

1475
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 4: guys I want to see. But I also think you

1476
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 4: need to see Kenny Pickett. The one guy I think

1477
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 4: we all agree that you don't necessarily need to see

1478
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: in the preseason because he you know exactly who he

1479
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: is is Joe Flacco.

1480
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the crazy thing is is, because of all

1481
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: these injuries this week, Flacco may have to play in

1482
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: the preseason game a series or so. Well.

1483
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 4: Now, I think that that, to me says more about

1484
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: why they signed Huntly than anything. Yeah, I think people

1485
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: are looking at the Huntley signing as being related to shador.

1486
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 4: I think the Huntley signing is being is much more

1487
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 4: related to they don't want to have to put Joe

1488
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: Flacco out there for too much in the event that

1489
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 4: he ends up being the starting quarterback of the Cleveland

1490
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: Browns in twenty twenty five.

1491
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1492
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you laid that up perfectly at the

1493
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: start of the show, which is we tried. You know,

1494
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: Huntley's here for Flacco starts on Friday, Shador goes in

1495
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: for a long stretch, gets nicked.

1496
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 4: Or they've decided or they've decided that Flacco's not playing

1497
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,959
Speaker 4: that game and you need to have somebody else that's

1498
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 4: able to play quarterback in that game.

1499
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that instance, do they start huntly against Carolina's ones?

1500
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I know he hasn't been luck.

1501
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: I didn't think he would be here. I'm here twenty

1502
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: four hours ago. I didn't think we'd be adding a quarterback,

1503
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: and we did so, so who knows. Maybe it get

1504
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: some answer to this from from Kevin on before practice tomorrow.

1505
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: That'll be his next plan. Availability is next tomorrow before

1506
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: practice down.

1507
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 7: Here, so coach will talk before practice and then he

1508
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 7: will sit down with one Nathan's the girl for the

1509
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 7: debut the Kevin Stefanski Show on Thursday.

1510
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: Now is it that time?

1511
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 7: It's time?

1512
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1513
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: Oh maybe, Away we go. So, what's your guys' favorite

1514
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: thing about Charlotte? We got about two minutes left before

1515
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: you guys got to go catch a plane. What's your

1516
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do in Charlotte? Give me one red,

1517
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: like if you were head.

1518
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I came in here like

1519
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: this one.

1520
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: If you had a if you were selling me on

1521
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: a reason to go to Charlotte, what would you sell

1522
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: me on?

1523
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 4: A lot of wrestling history in that city, wrestling in NASCAR.

1524
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, NASCAR Hall of Fame, Socilia.

1525
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 4: Also, I mean Rex Chapman was drafted there. I'm sure

1526
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,839
Speaker 4: there's a statue somewhere.

1527
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: There ought to be. I could believe there wasn't one

1528
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: in Lexington. There should be, Like, what is going on?

1529
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: I was King Rex King, Yes, right, I told you

1530
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: when we went, when I took NBC to the game,

1531
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: like he was there. King Rex was there and I

1532
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: was like in awe, awe of Rex. And I was

1533
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: like explaining, payde knew who he was. But then I'm like,

1534
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, like.

1535
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: I can't believe you did go talk to him. He

1536
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 3: would have been so gracious.

1537
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 2: He was on the other side. It was from a distance.

1538
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: I would have walked right across that court.

1539
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: Probably should have.

1540
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was excuse me, sir.

1541
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: He was so cool.

1542
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: His book was unbelievable.

1543
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm full of great stories, inspirational. He's been high highs

1544
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 4: low lows, bounced back and reinvented himself in a multitude

1545
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 4: of ways, A definite recommend, definite recommend.

1546
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: Well, boys say when we see stay dry or as

1547
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: dry as you can be, and I will see you

1548
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: via via technology tomorrow. Round one.

1549
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 7: And you said crossing the streams was.

1550
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: Bad, right, come on? You know what I found?

1551
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: I found I forgot when it got long because that

1552
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: was the year that Boots he did the top gun

1553
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: little video that he did, the little short and that

1554
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: one got a lot of attention. But NBC did a

1555
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: pretty damn good Peter Wenkman too that we did when

1556
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: he was little, like maybe like eight or nine. It

1557
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: was a pretty good little Peter. Yeah, he had that.

1558
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: He had that rockin all right, boys. Safe flights to

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Speaker 2: the Ultimate game Day. Here is defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 11: It's more of a general question about your philosophy. You

1577
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 11: work for Phil and Nick here, you go to Baltimore,

1578
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 11: you work for Marvin, you know Greg. How do all

1579
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 11: those philosophies sort of come together to form you know,

1580
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 11: this the philosophy you've kind of come to city. I

1581
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 11: don't say as your own, but it's the one that's

1582
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 11: attributed so much to you.

1583
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do.

1584
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 12: You take a little bit from coaches that you've met

1585
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 12: along the way, not just in schemes, but just in

1586
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 12: ways they handle situations, ways they organize, ways they organized

1587
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 12: their staff on the way they deal with players. You know,

1588
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 12: you're watching, like, hey, that was really good the way

1589
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 12: Marvin did this, or hey the way you know Bill

1590
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 12: did that.

1591
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 6: If I'm ever in that situation, I'll do the same thing.

1592
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 12: I think scheme wise, though, it probably comes more just

1593
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 12: from success and failure in.

1594
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 6: The in the league, you know.

1595
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 12: And I was I was telling somebody before a lot

1596
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 12: of what we built with the defensive front came when

1597
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 12: I was at Tennessee and we had the challenge of

1598
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 12: facing Gary Kubiak's Texans, which were wide zone and stretch,

1599
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 12: and Peyton Manning which was wide zone and those heavy

1600
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 12: play actions in quick passes, and then Jacksonville.

1601
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 6: Which was a heavy, heavy power run game.

1602
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 12: And you know, there's no greater teacher in this league

1603
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 12: than failure, right, you know, And we spent a lot

1604
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 12: of time on learning, like what doesn't work, and then

1605
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 12: you sort of refine and you're like, okay, that works.

1606
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 12: Plus you know, things sort of rolled back, you know,

1607
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 12: like mobile quarterback. Well, you've already had Michael Vick, so

1608
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 12: that time whatever Lamar Jackson comes, it's like, well I

1609
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 12: knew how to get my buck beat beat by Michael Vick,

1610
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 12: let's try to change some of those some of those things.

1611
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 12: So it's it's I I'd say probably fifty to fifty

1612
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 12: in schemes and taking things from different coaches, whether it's

1613
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 12: you know, organization or or dealing with the players, or

1614
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 12: dealing with the other coaches, and then also just experiencing

1615
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 12: the league, playing, playing those other things.

1616
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 6: So go ahead, I'm sorry what they're doing.

1617
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 12: Yeah, both of those guys are are really doing well.

1618
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 12: I mean, let's let's not put him in the Hall

1619
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 12: of Fame yet. They're both rookies. But I'll start with Mace.

1620
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 12: Mace has really made a tremendous turnaround in his body composition.

1621
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys.

1622
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 12: Have noticed it, but it's it's it's been significant from

1623
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 12: the time he got here after the dre to the

1624
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 12: shape he's in now. He's his metrics are like much

1625
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 12: much improved. He's running a lot faster, and there was

1626
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 12: an adjustment. He played a red scheme where he was

1627
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 12: hunkering at the line of scrimmage, so he didn't get

1628
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 12: a chance to make a lot of sacks or those

1629
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 12: tackles for losses.

1630
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,959
Speaker 6: Even though he's really productive in what he did.

1631
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 12: So not only was he sort of changing his body composition,

1632
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 12: but he was like learning a whole new way to

1633
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 12: play defense, which is attack. And there's been you know,

1634
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 12: some stepbacks along the way, but the thing with Mace

1635
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 12: is he's taken two steps forward for every one step

1636
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 12: back he's taken, so he's gaining ground and you're starting

1637
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 12: to see him make more plays. I think it was

1638
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 12: Friday he had one of the best rushes he's had

1639
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 12: in practice. He just it was a b gap rush

1640
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 12: and it was just beating the guard with speed. Nothing

1641
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 12: fancy about it, but that was something that we really

1642
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 12: had to see in a lot of you know, back

1643
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 12: in OTAs and in May so been happy him. There's

1644
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 12: still going to be some adjustment anybody that's going to

1645
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 12: a new scheme like that, there's going to be some

1646
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 12: one step forward two steps or two steps forward one

1647
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 12: step back. But as long as it's not one step

1648
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 12: forward one step back, he's making progress. And really excited

1649
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 12: to see him against some other competition and then see

1650
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 12: him in some games and seeing that translate. You know,

1651
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 12: we could we could be a long time talking about

1652
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 12: Carson because he you know, with Jordan Nick's retirement, you know,

1653
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 12: it really accelerated his timeline of getting him. But everything

1654
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 12: we've asked from him, not only has he been able

1655
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 12: to do, but he's he's done a better job than,

1656
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 12: you know, than maybe what we expected. He's got great size,

1657
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 12: he's got great quickness, he's got great speed, he's got

1658
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 12: great instincts, and he's made just as many mistakes as

1659
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 12: any other.

1660
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 6: Rookie, but he has not made any repeat mistakes.

1661
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 12: And I think you guys have seen some of the

1662
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 12: physicality that he brought to our practices.

1663
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 6: His communication is as much improved.

1664
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 12: A college guy coming in is a different communication than

1665
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 12: in college because a lot of colleges, they look over

1666
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 12: for the signal. Nobody really says anything here. He's, you know,

1667
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 12: a rookie. He's he's got to command the huddle, he's

1668
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 12: got to make calls and and do a lot more

1669
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 12: more things like that, and he's he's he's excelled and

1670
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 12: all those things. Really really excited for him, and I'm

1671
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 12: really happy to have both of those guys.

1672
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 13: You guys lost you guys lost Martin Numberson last week.

1673
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 13: Obviously that Achilles said, what were your hopes for him

1674
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 13: this year? What's your kind of playing to replace. Not

1675
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 13: tough one, but he was Martin.

1676
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, Martin means a lot to us, and I thought

1677
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 12: he was really primed for a comeback year. You know,

1678
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 12: he was, he was in great shade, he was he

1679
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,520
Speaker 12: was hungry, his attitude was great.

1680
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 6: And unfortunately he had the injury.

1681
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,440
Speaker 12: We have a veteran like Greg Newsom that's played inside

1682
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 12: and outside.

1683
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 6: But we'll put a little bit more on Greg, but.

1684
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 12: Greg's Greig's you know, been playing a lot of football

1685
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 12: for us. So it's really just going to open up

1686
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 12: a lot more for Nickel competition, for the third outside

1687
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 12: corner competition, those kind of things. So you know it, Uh,

1688
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 12: there's there's good competition there and we need some guys

1689
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 12: to be able to step in.

1690
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 7: Greg asked you to rip offf fact to kind of

1691
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 7: lose in mynmbers as you kind of just gress that.

1692
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 5: So we're just taking the lead on that.

1693
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 12: I'll say inside, well, inside, we have we have two

1694
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 12: veteran players for US. One a veteran meaning young vets,

1695
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 12: cam and and Miles, you know, and they're they're really

1696
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 12: just working through just like everybody else, just being consistent,

1697
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 12: being physical and playing with great effort.

1698
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 6: And you know.

1699
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 12: Somebody, somebody's gonna end up taking that job, and it's

1700
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 12: going to be based on the body of work from

1701
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 12: training camp and pre season and all those other things.

1702
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 12: But we play a lot of dbs, so we'll need

1703
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 12: all those guys as we go.

1704
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 13: As you talked about Carson, I guess I'm curious if

1705
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 13: it ever had a rookie be.

1706
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 2: Like a pretty done defense of your career and then all.

1707
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 9: Of that with Jordan's gone, you know.

1708
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 12: You're who's maybe is it all on Carson is sort

1709
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 12: of assume that leadership role or you're seeing that sort

1710
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 12: of spread out.

1711
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: On the number of guys.

1712
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 12: The leadership stuff will will come from playing good and

1713
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 12: you know, preparing well and earning the respect.

1714
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 6: Of his teammates.

1715
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 12: You know, that's that's something that you don't just like

1716
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 12: it's not a switch you hit or it's just not

1717
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 12: a card you get.

1718
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 6: Hey, now now you're a leader. It comes.

1719
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 12: I mean, people respect preparation, they respect hard work, they

1720
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 12: respect communication, they respect good play on the field. If

1721
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 12: he does those things, leadership, leadership take care of itself.

1722
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 12: What was the other part of it a rookie, Oh yeah,

1723
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 12: I've had a d I've multiple rookies. Last one I

1724
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 12: had was probably Presston Brown in Buffalo who was a

1725
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 12: third or fourth round pick and made all the calls

1726
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 12: and was outstanding. I mean, it's you know it. It's

1727
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,520
Speaker 12: something those guys.

1728
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 6: Can do.

1729
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,520
Speaker 11: As center.

1730
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 8: Also to get yourself to have your best player on

1731
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 8: the team.

1732
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,480
Speaker 13: Talking like that, What does that have I call operation?

1733
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, congratuations on Bill None, that's fantastic. Got I got

1734
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 12: to meet him back when I was sort of in

1735
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 12: the scouting world, legend, legend guy.

1736
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 6: But what congratulations on that? Miles?

1737
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 12: We we sort of go as a defense as Miles goes,

1738
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 12: you know, raid of a pack, determined by the lead dog.

1739
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 12: And we played good on defense when Miles is playing good.

1740
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 12: So I think setting that standard means a lot defensive

1741
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 12: player to year he's been that, I think all our

1742
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 12: guys have been challenged to take another step. If you're

1743
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 12: on the practice squad trying to earn a spot on

1744
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 12: the roster, if you were on the roster trying to

1745
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 12: earn a playtime or starting spot, you're a starter trying

1746
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 12: to elevate.

1747
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,879
Speaker 6: To a Pro Bowl status.

1748
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 12: You know, I really think the next step for Miles

1749
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 12: is not defensive player to the year, he's sort of been there,

1750
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 12: done that.

1751
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,919
Speaker 6: Next step for him is MVP candidate.

1752
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 12: And you know, if we're playing good on defense and

1753
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 12: he's he's at the at the heart of that.

1754
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 6: I think he's in that conversation. He he is.

1755
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 12: A obviously a marked man in every game, sees doubles people.

1756
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 6: You know, we move him around.

1757
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 12: He still wears number ninety five, right, and he still

1758
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 12: looks like he does so it's easy for opponents to

1759
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 12: find him. But my definition of a great player is

1760
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 12: when the opponent says, we're taking this guy out, this

1761
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 12: guy is not going to beat us, and he can

1762
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 12: still have that production and that effectiveness. I think it

1763
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 12: sets a big, big standard and a big statement. And

1764
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 12: I would say we we also have to be better

1765
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 12: around bombs, right, and we have to be able to

1766
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 12: win one on ones in pass rush when he does

1767
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 12: get doubled, because that'll help if we can win those

1768
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 12: one on ones. And the offense says, well, we can't

1769
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 12: afford to put so much tension on Miles because this

1770
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 12: guy is wearing us out or these other guys are

1771
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 12: wearing us out.

1772
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 6: Then it opens things up.

1773
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 12: So we need that sort of one plus one equals

1774
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 12: three to some of your some is greater than the

1775
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 12: individual parts.

1776
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 6: And I think that's a challenge for us.

1777
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: Also, Jimmy, haven't.

1778
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 9: Us talk about Kevin's defans gives last week, and he

1779
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 9: made a point to emphasize Kevin's age only four three, the.

1780
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: Idea of being you know, he's still a young coach.

1781
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: I wanted the room to develop. You've been around a

1782
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: lot of great coaches in your time. Where do you

1783
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: see Kevin on them?

1784
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 6: On his professional development curve right now? Oh, I don't

1785
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 6: worry about that. He's the He's he he's the head coach.

1786
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 6: I have so much respect for Kevin. He's he's so

1787
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 6: even Ye.

1788
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 12: I think everybody has a little different style, right Like

1789
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 12: I'm I'm a little bit more emotional. I'm a little

1790
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 12: bit more like where your where your emotions on your

1791
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 12: sleeve and things like that. And just the thing I

1792
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 12: respect about Kevin is just how even keeled he is.

1793
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 12: And if you want, if you want teams to play well,

1794
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 12: you need a lot of different ways to touch it.

1795
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 12: And I think Kevin just just that that steady you know,

1796
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 12: like if if you ever, if you ever on a sailboat,

1797
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 12: you know, you don't look just in the immediate front

1798
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 12: of the sailboat. You keep your eye on the horizon

1799
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 12: and you wanna stand that true course, I think Kevin

1800
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 12: just exemplifies.

1801
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: That as always that have as same as you're trying

1802
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: to camp generally in that and you're in your third

1803
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: years of a lot of guys in their third sever

1804
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: it's understandable.

1805
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 6: I guess with the quarterback deals, can you evaluate in

1806
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 6: your own mind does this look like.

1807
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: The real deal?

1808
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 6: Or you have to be shown?

1809
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1810
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, I mean I think you do see good signs, right,

1811
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 12: and you're looking for communication, and you're looking for individual effort,

1812
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 12: and you're looking for things like that. But when it's

1813
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 12: all said and done, it's got to be on the field,

1814
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 12: you know, And and what happens in training camp that

1815
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 12: can be good signs and that can sort of lead

1816
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 12: you in a direction, but until you until you do

1817
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 12: it on the field, and you do it consistently on

1818
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 12: the field, that's that's all it is.

1819
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 6: It is just a good a good sign.

1820
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 12: So we're we're focused on trying to improve every day

1821
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 12: and those things to set us up Like again, like y,

1822
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 12: you can't you can't start at the end of the journey.

1823
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 12: You can't say, hey, we want to be a great

1824
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 12: deal defense, because then you lose the day to day.

1825
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 12: You got to say, hey, look, let's go out and and.

1826
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 6: Make make progress today.

1827
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 12: Let's go attack this day and learn from my mistakes.

1828
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 6: Let's emphasize our talent. Let's compete, and if.

1829
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 12: You do those things, you do those things consistently, then you'll,

1830
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 12: you know, you'll you'll get to where you wanna go.

1831
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 6: But this time of the year, we're really just trying.

1832
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 12: To keep our eyes on on what's there that day

1833
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 12: and and not worry about a whole lot other than that.

1834
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 13: Just go more Denzel and he's take even another level which.

1835
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 9: I don't even know the all, but uh and there.

1836
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: He's also a NFL as.

1837
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 6: A player to hear, so.

1838
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's a He's I've always admired Denzel as a

1839
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 12: player when when I've been on other teams and just

1840
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 12: the way he goes about doing his things is is

1841
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 12: just impressive to see to see up close.

1842
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 6: They do.

1843
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 12: Some guys that have coached him in the past that

1844
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 12: you know, they said, like, you're gonna love Denzel, and

1845
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 12: I certainly do. I've had some good corners in the past.

1846
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 12: He's probably the best corner I've had in thirty some years.

1847
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 12: In the thirty some years in the NFL. The thing

1848
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 12: I like about Denzel is just how consistent he is

1849
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 12: with his preparation.

1850
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 6: He never phones in a performance.

1851
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 12: He's making a big effort this year to be more

1852
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 12: physical and put hands on because he's he's such a

1853
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 12: great shadow guy, and he's working a little bit more now,

1854
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 12: being a little more physical at the line of scrimmage,

1855
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 12: giving us a little bit more run support, and just

1856
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 12: sort of rounding out some other parts of the game.

1857
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 6: When it's all.

1858
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 12: Said and done, the biggest thing is he just needs

1859
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 12: to finish those PBUs with I nts. You know, he

1860
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 12: was so so productive in getting pbu's last year, but

1861
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 12: left a lot of meat on the bone. And you know,

1862
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 12: the third down stop that's a that's a PBu becomes

1863
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 12: a game changing play when it's an I n T.

1864
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 12: And that's probably the biggest thing for him to really

1865
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 12: make that next step because there were really opportunities there.

1866
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 12: He knows that, and you know, the finishing the play

1867
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 12: thing when he does that will be uh, you know,

1868
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 12: we'll be in a really good spot on defense.

1869
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 13: We see him matched up with like Carol and the

1870
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 13: et cetera. So, I mean he can match up with

1871
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 13: any size, any speed. Like how unique is that in

1872
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 13: the corner for him to basically just be able to

1873
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 13: match up against anybody.

1874
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 6: Well, you know, he does it with his own style.

1875
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 12: I think the biggest thing with him is he doesn't

1876
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 12: really change his style for which whether it's Jerry, Judy,

1877
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 12: or Tilley or or Harold or you know, maybe even

1878
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 12: Joku he gets out there sometimes with with.

1879
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 6: Him, he just works on his own craft.

1880
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 12: He's he We've used him to match different receivers, play

1881
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 12: right and left, We've switched him in camp a little

1882
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 12: bit here and there, you know. So I don't I

1883
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 12: don't know that it's that it's unusual in your corner.

1884
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 12: Over the course of seventeen plus games, they're gonna be

1885
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 12: a lot of different kind of matchups, you know. I

1886
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 12: mean we open with Jamar Chase and Okay Yah Higgins, Yeah,

1887
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 12: my my Tennessee basketball guy, mister basketball in Tennessee as

1888
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 12: a high school player. Com I mean, like, Jamar is

1889
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 12: not a small receiver, but he's got s quickness of

1890
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 12: a smaller guy and t Higg is just so big

1891
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 12: and it's just a different style. But you know, so

1892
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 12: he's gonna have challenge right out the gate, so I well,

1893
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 12: we'll get exposure to all that stuff in camp.

1894
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 5: Do you think you talk about.

1895
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 3: During OTZ and many camps improving.

1896
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Their down percentage in the takeaways aspect of.

1897
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 4: Even where we are in camp right now, how do

1898
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 4: you see your guys kind of.

1899
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 3: Embody asking tality to improve.

1900
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 12: Those areas and the kind of what's been done?

1901
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 9: Where are they fee?

1902
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, probably the biggest thing with with takeaways has been

1903
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 12: us attacking the ball. I mean, I think I think

1904
01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 12: it's pretty obviously anybody's watched. You see nine guys attacking

1905
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 12: the ball and number one. That helps us. We've gotten

1906
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 12: some loose balls that way. But also it helps our

1907
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 12: offensive guys. If we're attacking the ball and being so

1908
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 12: productive there forces them to have better ball security, So

1909
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 12: that works hand in hand training camp, a lot of

1910
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 12: times it's hard to read for interceptions because so many

1911
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 12: interceptions come from a quarterback either thrown before he wanted

1912
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 12: to or getting hit when he's thrown, or making a mistake.

1913
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 12: And in training camp, when you're not hitting the quarterback

1914
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 12: and those guys know they're not going to hit. They

1915
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 12: generally don't make those kind of mistakes, so you know

1916
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 12: that that'll just be more. But we we have sort

1917
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 12: of emphasized a little bit more of a playmaker attitude,

1918
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 12: taking some calculative risks here and there, and hopefully that'll

1919
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 12: show up on the field along with the ball disruption

1920
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 12: attempts that we've tried.

1921
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, of the defensive line and where you guys

1922
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,839
Speaker 2: are not playing off. So that is when you noticed

1923
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: with Isaiah and alex.

1924
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 6: Or how they fum a long home to day race.

1925
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,520
Speaker 13: Kind of a competition on ourselves.

1926
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, we have great competition at at defensive defensive end

1927
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 12: in particular. We got a lot of guys that have

1928
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 12: started a lot of games in the NFL. You mentioned Zay,

1929
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 12: you mentioned Alex put put Cam Thomas out there, who's

1930
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 12: had an outstanding camp, but Julian out there, who's had

1931
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 12: an outstanding camp. kJ new to us. He may have

1932
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 12: played the other day, he's been physical for us. All

1933
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 12: those guys are gonna play in the NFL, and it's

1934
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 12: gonna make us better the competition that they bring because

1935
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 12: they gotta be on their game every day or somebody

1936
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 12: else is gonna be so we wanna see physicality out

1937
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 12: of those guys. Those guys you mentioned are both physical

1938
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 12: players for us. Zay had to play in practice the

1939
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 12: other day where he he literally took three blockers and

1940
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 12: knocked them back into the backfield.

1941
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 6: It was a tackle for a loss on the play.

1942
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 12: When we're doing that, when we're being disruptive up front,

1943
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 12: we're gonna get those lost yards plays.

1944
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 6: We're gonna be around a quarterback.

1945
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 12: But you know, if you're just somebody coming out to

1946
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 12: watch practice, that competition is something to watch because, like

1947
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 12: you roll through and we'll have our our end of

1948
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 12: practice extra reps, we'll have guys that are running thirteam.

1949
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 12: I really don't care what group you're running. It's all

1950
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 12: about getting reps. But you're seeing veteran players in those

1951
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 12: that are out there trying to improve and and trying

1952
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 12: to prove themselves. I think it's outstanding for us, and

1953
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Speaker 12: I'm i'm I'm excited to watch all those guys playing,

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Speaker 12: rooting for all of them, and like I said, I

1955
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Speaker 12: think all those guys will end up on teams and

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Speaker 12: probably all getting a significant playtime this year.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Jim Schwartz from the podium

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Speaker 2: presented by Vivid Seeds, puts your official fan experience package

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Speaker 2: today for the Ultimate Game Day, Z and Gibbe will

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Speaker 2: be down in Charlotte tomorrow on a practice that should

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Speaker 2: be fascinating to see, so you'll have that look forward to,

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Speaker 2: which is nice.

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Speaker 3: The next level is coming up next weeks.

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Speaker 2: For everybody runs daily eight fifty in Cleveland.

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