WEBVTT - Ep27 Jordana Brewster 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.680 Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.040 With Son King and Amelia Hartford. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.200 Today we have an old friend of mine. She is 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.280 one of the most amazing people in my life and 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:17.520 a true true friend. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.440 I loved having this conversation and talking about the actor's 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.239 process and artistic expression. Yeah. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.440 I think a lot of people just recognize her from 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.600 the films and don't really know the person behind the role. 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.280 So it's really great to be able to share her origin, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.199 where she's come from, where she's going, and where she 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:37.760 is today. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.000 And it's nice to hear how she's able to balance 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.720 work life, being a mother, having children while also traveling 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.159 and being a very successful actress. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:55.520 So, without further ado, Jordana Brewster, Jordana Brewster, thank you 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.640 for joining us today. Of course, it's a real privilege 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.240 to sit down with you. I feel like you're the 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.640 sister that I always wanted. You know, your energy on 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.960 and off the set is consistently beautiful, so I don't 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.640 think i've ever thanked you in person. You know, you're 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.520 one of the few people within the franchise that always 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.760 welcome me into your personal life, into your home, and 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.199 just grateful to heavy in my life and so it's 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.160 really for me important and special to have you here. Yeah, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.679 And I just want to share with the people and 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.080 the listeners out there you know who you are and 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:33.679 why you mean so much to me. And I think 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.240 a lot of people have questions of like how did 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.720 you get to where you are? Like was it something 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.640 that you've always dreamt of since you were a little kid? 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.040 And you know what was the process? And your origin 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.319 story too, because people go, oh, yeah, she's me from 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.240 Fast and Furious and she just got there one day. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.040 But you know, as an actor, there's a whole journey. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.360 And I don't know if the world's ever got to 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.560 hear this from you, you know, So I'd love to 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.440 share that and I wants to learn. Yeah. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.800 So I had a sort of strange upbringing. I was 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.080 born in Panama City, and then I spent about six 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.720 years in London and then four years in Rio, Brazil, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.080 which is where my mom is from. She was a 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.960 model in Brazil and it's where half of my family 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.800 is and that's where I really got this. Like, I 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.720 think you have to be a little bit delusional to 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.160 want to be an actor in a certain sense, like 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:25.920 you have to believe, and I see it in my 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.400 son Julian, who's nine. You have to believe that, like 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.960 there's something really different about you or there's something unique 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.880 about you. And I just remember watching these kids' shows, 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.680 in particular one woman called Shusha. She was this huge 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.040 personality and I was like, God, I want to be 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.720 like that one day. And I would also watch It's 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:51.400 just so embarrassing. I would watch Baywatch nothing but like 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.280 you know, it was like dubbed I think in Brazil, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.600 and it was like such a big deal and I 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:56.960 was like, God, I can't wait till I go to 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.440 America and I want to be an actor. And that's 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.160 when the seed was planted. But there was no there 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.519 were no steps to take or means of becoming an actor. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.959 And then at ten, I moved to New York City 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:16.480 and I went to this this all girls Catholic school, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.720 which was like a huge culture clash for me because 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:26.559 I went from like a very warm, wonderful, loving, beautiful 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.800 environment to like a very sort of rigid, judgmental. I 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.359 kind of like retreated into a cocoon in a way. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.320 And my only outlet was school plays and I got 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.760 into that and I played Jesus and god Spell at 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.840 the All Girls' School. This is a very long answer 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.400 to your question. I apologize sung. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.520 But now we're here for it. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.520 There was this showcase because in New York, obviously you 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:53.280 have access to like classes, and so I got into 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.480 the showcase where they taught you like very technical things 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.160 like how to audition and how to get headshots. And 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.440 that's how I met one of my first agents from 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.000 J Michael Bloom, and she immediately started submitting me. So 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.160 I would I would go like I would leave my 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.680 class and get on a payphone and put in my 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:12.640 quarter and go, okay, wait, you want me to go 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.400 to ABC Studios to audition for all my children. Okay, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.839 I'm gonna I'll go right after school at three fifteen. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.159 I'll get on the bus and go across. At ten, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.960 this was at fifteen. Sorry, she moved at ten and fifteen. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.279 You moved at ten using payphones to go to auditions fifteen? Yeah, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.320 I'm using payphones to go to auditions. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.240 Did your family go with you or did you move 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.839 out by yourself? 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.560 No, my family, well, my family was in New York 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.960 with me, and I sort of had to convince them 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.440 that this was they humored me while it wasn't a 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.599 real thing. But then I got one of the jobs 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.760 that I auditioned for, and then I had to really 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.320 sort of lobby for myself and my mom. My dad 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.400 was super chill about it and very supportive, and my 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.719 mom was like, absolutely not, I'm not letting you. She 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.800 was very nervous that I was too young, that I 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.080 was going to be taking advantage. But I said, you 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.919 know what, let me do this. Let me prove that 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.320 I can do this at a young age. And I promised, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.720 you all stay in school, I'll get decent grades and 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.960 I'll go to college. And that was the deal I 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.640 struck with them, and they let me, and it was 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:18.520 the best decision for me because I was with adults 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.120 and as the World Turns and the Show and CBS, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 I had the best mentors. I remember. My dad was 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.880 this guy called Benjamin Hendrickson who had gone to Juilliard, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.080 and he was like, Jordana, you need to stop swearing, Jordana, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.280 you need to like He would give me like drop 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.000 these like pearls of wisdom, which I still remember to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.120 this day. That job taught me how to behave on 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.720 a set, taught me about professionalism and also taught me 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.760 how to like be comfortable in front of a camera 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.840 and taught me how to like memorize pages and pages 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.280 of dialogue at a time. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.640 Because as the world turns for listeners out there with. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.920 It was a soap opera, yeah. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.120 Right, and the pace of a soap opera is super fast, right. 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.440 It's super fast. It's you have one episode per day 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.239 and you get the episode I think a couple days 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.440 before and also. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.320 Sometimes changed like pages that morning of right. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.119 They can, yeah, they can. And it's also it's almost 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.640 like a summer camp experience. You get your little dressing room, 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.120 you see everyone in the makeup room. It just it 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:23.760 was the best, warm, loving environment. I loved it. And 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.080 I did miss out on school to a certain extent 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.279 because I went to this school called PCs Professional Children's School, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.400 and we were kind of like a squad of weirdos 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.400 because it was like musicians from Juilliard and ballerinas and 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:45.159 male ballet students from School of American Ballet. Macaulay Culkin 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.599 was there. But we all knew what we wanted to 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.040 do and we were pursuing that. So that's how I 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.160 got my start, and then I think at eighteen when 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:00.919 I was graduating, I got the faculty Robert roy Register. Yeah, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.400 Robert Roger gets directed. So that was a huge break 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.560 for me. And then I had to convince my parents 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.560 to let me differ from college for a year, and 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.960 they did. I was pretty convincing. And then I had 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.240 to take another semester off for Fast and Furious because 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.160 I got that during one of the summer breaks at 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.000 school and we went over a little bit for the 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:20.720 first fast. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.000 Do you remember where you were when you found out 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.320 booking that job and did you think it would become 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:26.600 the franchise that it is today. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.920 Booking the job was not a big deal to me. 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.640 And I don't mean I took it for granted. I 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.720 just mean I guess I don't have a nose because 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.400 the stuff I think is going to be a big 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.760 deal never turns out to be a big deal. Like 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.880 I booked a job with playing Cameron Diy as a sister. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.880 It was based on a novel that I loved. It 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.320 was a book called Invisible Circus, and I thought it 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.160 was going to be massive and it was a whole 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.760 summer spent shooting in Europe and it was a really 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.160 like dramatic turn, and it like it was a total 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.880 flop and it led nowhere. And yet this movie about 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.040 which was a subculture I didn't necessarily understand, having grown 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.080 up in New York and wasn't super familiar with Vin 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.480 or Paul. So all that to say, I don't remember 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.600 where I was when I found out about getting that role. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.920 But I sure do remember where I was when I 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.880 heard we hit forty eight million in the first weekend. Wow, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.960 because that was like unheard of. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:20.600 Where were you? 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.240 I was okay, So I would spend weekends on Long 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.320 Island and I would go to like the same movie 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.280 theater in East Hampton, and I was at the parking 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.880 lot next to the A and P when, like I 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.480 think Saturday morning, you would get a call from the 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.120 studio and your agents. It was like that was the tradition. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.120 And I remember getting that call on. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.439 Me, What did you think that it was going to 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.280 be a hit while you were shooting? Not at all. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.320 You were saying, no, no, I. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.400 Had no idea. I mean, I think in some ways 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.360 youth is wasted on the young because I think now 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.480 when I'm on a set, I'm present, I relish it. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.880 I know how special it is to get a gang 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.160 of like artists that get to express themselves, whether it's 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.560 you know, the set designer, the prop master, the costume designer. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.120 Like it's such a wonderful opportunity. We all have to 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.680 do what we love. But back then I was so 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.800 trapped and like feeling self conscious and am I going 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.160 to do this the right way? And I think it's 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.160 how I got through life because I was balancing, like 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.160 I was going to Yale, I was studying, I was 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.400 living alone. I was you know. So I think I 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.600 got through it by sort of being very type A 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.880 and rigid. So I didn't like stop to enjoy it 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.720 or go wait, I'm part of something special. I was 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.920 sort of trapped in my head. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:35.440 What did you major at? 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:36.520 You English? 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.000 You're a English major? Why did you choose English? 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.360 I love to read. I love to read books. I'll 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.880 say I don't really like reading scripts. I have a 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.199 really hard time focusing on scripts because I feel like 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.040 bad ones, which I think we read a lot of 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.840 in this industry, like they miss like the yummy characters 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.760 and the backstory and all the like. I love reading 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.320 a good book and relating to oh wait, like I 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.280 see myself that or I see my family patterns in 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.280 that and relating to someone that wrote it like one 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.920 hundred or two hundred years ago is such a delicious feeling. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:08.400 What are you reading right now? 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:08.880 So? 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:13.000 I have a book club with my husb and my 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.800 former roommate Deborah. And one of my favorite writers is 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.560 Virginia Wolf. And I wrote my thesis on Orlando, and 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:25.120 apparently Virginia Wolf loved Catherine Mansfield's writings and so she 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.319 wrote a book of short stories. So that's that's what 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.720 we've tackled. But we have yet to schedule this, but 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.360 we will. Yeah. It's really fun, especially when we don't agree, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.000 because I'll focus on like super emotional things and she'll 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.000 be the far more analytical one, and she'll have read 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.240 like a Gagillian books on a specific author, and I 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.680 go with my gut and it's we have fun, fun debates. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.280 I very rarely read fiction. I'm a big fan of nonfiction. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.080 Oh really, but I just read a book. I'm going 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.480 to space on the author, so please forgive me those listening. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.360 But the book is called Educated. I don't know if 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.840 you've come across that one, right, Yeah, Yeah, I definitely 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.000 recommend I think it's Tara, Yes, Tara Westover, Okay, and 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:07.120 about the times growing up without technology, their rural community, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.880 with not much outside exposure, where women weren't in the 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.520 family allowed to get an education, and the battle of 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.280 abuse and stuff like that. This poor girl I to 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.680 endure through tough times. But speaking on the topic of books, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.360 that's one that I recently read that I thought was 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.079 just so incredible. That'll be the next one for the 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:25.560 book club. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:26.960 Yeah, that's really good. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.800 Do you think if you didn't pursue acting you would 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.480 be a writer? Is I why are you chose English? 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.400 I think I probably would be a professor. I think 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.400 with Hollywood, like there's this like stratification that occurs right 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.440 where you're just like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.040 just learned to play the game, and now you're telling 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.160 me the game has like completely shifted and I have 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.480 to like play a completely different game. But I do 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.600 think that it's really funny observing people in different jobs. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.239 Like everyone's got their own subculture, and within that subculture 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.000 there's like this pecking order, and for example, for us, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.640 it's what movies have you done? And you know, how 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.600 successful are you? And what ranking Back in the day 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.600 it was like what ranking on IMDb, and I would 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.880 check the message board. It's like the star meter. Yes, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.439 I guess it's a star meter. Now I've like I've been. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.880 I've banned myself from that at this point. But like 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.719 the same thing exists in academia, right, it's how many 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.240 papers have you published? And where did you work before? 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.120 And how many degrees do you have. It's still a snobbery, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.040 it's just a different kind of snobbery. But anyway, circling 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.840 back to your question, I do think I would be 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.240 a professor, although I think I would love to lecture 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.640 and correct papers and but and maybe i'd be more 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:39.800 of a researcher. I don't know. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.960 I think it would be tough for you as a professor. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.720 I think you would have a lot of like male 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:45.439 students and. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.079 Come on, right, at least have good attendance for your classes. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.720 Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'd get good scores. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.880 Yeah. Well, when you say that the business of Hollywood 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.240 has changed, what have you noticed since you started? 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.240 Oh my gosh, I've noticed that there used to be 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.760 a certain path. The path was you you get an 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.520 agent that helps you, that you get a manager, contacts 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.680 within studios, like I think for Fast, I was with 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.640 Peter Levine and Patrick white Sell at CIA. Patrick white 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.520 Sell was good friends with Scott Stuber who worked at Universal, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.640 and that's how I got an inn, right, Like they 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:33.640 suggested me to Rob. I had an audition with Rob Cohen. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:34.360 We hit it off. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.960 Scott Stuber runs Netflix now, right. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.560 But back in the day he was the executive at Universal. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.640 But now I'll say certain things to my manager, like well, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.240 I don't understand, like why can't we call so and 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.360 so at Disney or so and so? And She's like, Sweetie, 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.160 it doesn't work that way anymore. Like that's not like 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.480 the old avenues of like someone doesn't make a call 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:00.680 and help get a job. Now it's they're watching tapes 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:06.200 or everyone puts yourself on tape or like I recently, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.160 I was really I fell in love with this Apple 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.920 TV show because it was about different paths you can 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.920 take and different Well it hasn't come out yet, but 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.720 I wanted to read for it, and I didn't even 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.480 get the opportunity to read because Jennifer Connolly's doing it. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.480 Like since when does Jennifer Connolly do TV? 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.720 I think it's. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.680 Yes, it was it was so good. Did you read 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:31.120 that script? 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.360 Yea, based on a book. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:37.400 Yeah, and it had to do with like different levels 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.920 of consciousness or reality and like that was super interesting 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.680 to me. But I think it's there's so much more 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.600 opportunity out there, but it's so much more competitive as well. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.520 And it sometimes it doesn't even matter how much you've done. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.480 They're just like, no, we're looking for something else, and 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:59.120 that's that. So it's encouraging and discouraging at the same time. 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.920 I imagine. So my norm is what you're speaking of prior 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.280 to the time where you get an agent, you get 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.360 a manager, you audition smaller industry. How have you seen 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:09.880 influencing affecting that space. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.000 Well, I mean it helps as far as getting like 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.920 they'll check your numbers on Instagram or whatever and then 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.120 like that'll help you get endorsement deals or if they 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.680 need they need to hit certain markets. I guess there's 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.960 this thing like certain agencies can do where they see 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.800 like are you big in this market or that market? 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.680 So I think that can be helpful. But I also think, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.320 like I've talked to teachers in the past where they're 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.680 like someone was hired based on the number of followers 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.480 they have, and I'm not sure whether or not they 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.160 can act. But the positive side about that is that 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.240 you can create your own content, put it out there, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.320 and sort of control your destiny a bit more. You 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.200 don't have to wait for the right thing to come along. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.320 So I think that's a tool you have, right, Sure, 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.320 I wasn't speaking for myself. Yeah, but your generation, I think, Yeah, 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.200 I think that's super empowering. You can sort of control 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:04.760 the narrative. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.360 Yeah, there's definitely a lot more medians that are out 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.360 there that you can produce content for, be it for 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:15.960 vertical content like snapchat, TikTok, Instagram, or even something like YouTube. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.520 Well also even you know, when I talk to Amelia 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.880 about her YouTube influence, right, she hates to be called 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.160 a YouTuber, but a content maker, a YouTube were YouTube 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.640 where She's like, I hate that word, right when you 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:31.240 hate about it. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.400 Though I wouldn't say I hate the word. I think 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.160 people are just very quick to judge when they hear 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.720 the word YouTuber or influencer. I feel like I've been 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.880 able to build an incredible business, build these incredible cars, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.680 and break records and be this I guess influence in 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.440 the car space and breaking barriers, especially as a woman 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.520 in a male dominated space. So then when people say, oh, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.720 she's an influencer, I look at it as a good thing, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.000 but there's just this derogatory term that comes with it 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.880 where it's almost not looking at my successes are the 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.280 accolades or the accomplishments that I've made in my life, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.840 and more so, oh she holds a cameraun film stuff. Yeah, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:06.879 so that's really what it comes to. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.199 You has a message and like I ethos through the 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.040 content that she does, a lot of people are out 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.240 there shaking ass or something, you know, totally. But what 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.159 I was really impressed about was, you know, when I 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.280 was like starting out, I had like ten jobs to 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.280 feed myself, you know, and the fact that she can 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.560 actually not have to do that, because yeah, this idea 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.679 of starving actor is ridiculous because if you're starving and 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.560 you have ten jobs, you can't focus on your work. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.560 You can't afford class, you can't go do a play, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.320 you can't go watch. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.840 Film, can't get headshots that you need. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.760 You got to go and work all day. So figure 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.680 out a way where you can be self sufficient and 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.280 you don't have to go and have ten jobs, right. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.440 But I did. I now understand that, like when I'm 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.880 in LA and auditioning and not working proactively I do 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.520 it is like I'm like a wild animal in a cage, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.200 and it's very difficult to just on the receiving end 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.359 of everything and not be creating. I think that's very 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.720 hard for creative people. So to have a side hustle, 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.080 I think is a very healthy thing. 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.679 A question for you, Jordana. I've never had this conversation 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.679 with a working actor. I mean we've been around for 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.760 a while, right, so you know when I get asked 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.159 to like put something on tape, I used to have 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.720 this like visceral reaction like, oh, how dare you just 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.760 go look at the stuffs? Yeah, what are you asking 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.480 me to do? Like like I speak English, like come on, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.080 I commemorized lines, Well what do you need? I still 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.040 struggle with it when my rep sent me stuff and 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.879 they're like, hey, they want you on tape. It's like 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.359 everyone's on tape, and I'm like first reaction is like 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.919 I'm doing it, and then I have to they have 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.560 to call me, they have to kind of grease me up, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.160 and they have to tell me like you know, who 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.359 the people are involved. And then also it's a lot 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.680 of sometimes they don't give you a script, so here 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.639 are the sides. And as an actor, I don't understand that. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:20.000 Even as a director or a producer, I don't understand 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:24.040 how you would expect an actor to do their best 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.080 work when you just give them sites and there's no 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.919 context of the character or the story. Yeah, so where's 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.640 your arc? Like, how are you going to like develop 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:32.600 this character? 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:33.240 Right? 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.280 And everything's so you know, secretive these days, right, So 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.320 most of the time I just say I'm okay if 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.600 you're looking for an actor that doesn't need to like 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.439 actually create a character and just need somebody to regurgitate lines, 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.760 like I'm not for you. But then I don't work 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.840 as often. Yeah, so I mean how do you overcome that? 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.520 I mean, for the most part, I audition and I'll 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.080 put myself on tape, which requires like this is going 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.040 to sound really superficial, but it requires a blowout. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:06.879 The good lighting. 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.120