Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Car Stories.
Speaker 2: With Son King and Amelia Hartford.
Speaker 1: Today we have an old friend of mine. She is
Speaker 1: one of the most amazing people in my life and
Speaker 1: a true true friend.
Speaker 2: I loved having this conversation and talking about the actor's
Speaker 2: process and artistic expression. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just recognize her from
Speaker 1: the films and don't really know the person behind the role.
Speaker 1: So it's really great to be able to share her origin,
Speaker 1: where she's come from, where she's going, and where she
Speaker 1: is today.
Speaker 2: And it's nice to hear how she's able to balance
Speaker 2: work life, being a mother, having children while also traveling
Speaker 2: and being a very successful actress.
Speaker 1: So, without further ado, Jordana Brewster, Jordana Brewster, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us today. Of course, it's a real privilege
Speaker 1: to sit down with you. I feel like you're the
Speaker 1: sister that I always wanted. You know, your energy on
Speaker 1: and off the set is consistently beautiful, so I don't
Speaker 1: think i've ever thanked you in person. You know, you're
Speaker 1: one of the few people within the franchise that always
Speaker 1: welcome me into your personal life, into your home, and
Speaker 1: just grateful to heavy in my life and so it's
Speaker 1: really for me important and special to have you here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just want to share with the people and
Speaker 1: the listeners out there you know who you are and
Speaker 1: why you mean so much to me. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people have questions of like how did
Speaker 1: you get to where you are? Like was it something
Speaker 1: that you've always dreamt of since you were a little kid?
Speaker 1: And you know what was the process? And your origin
Speaker 1: story too, because people go, oh, yeah, she's me from
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious and she just got there one day.
Speaker 1: But you know, as an actor, there's a whole journey.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the world's ever got to
Speaker 1: hear this from you, you know, So I'd love to
Speaker 1: share that and I wants to learn. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I had a sort of strange upbringing. I was
Speaker 3: born in Panama City, and then I spent about six
Speaker 3: years in London and then four years in Rio, Brazil,
Speaker 3: which is where my mom is from. She was a
Speaker 3: model in Brazil and it's where half of my family
Speaker 3: is and that's where I really got this. Like, I
Speaker 3: think you have to be a little bit delusional to
Speaker 3: want to be an actor in a certain sense, like
Speaker 3: you have to believe, and I see it in my
Speaker 3: son Julian, who's nine. You have to believe that, like
Speaker 3: there's something really different about you or there's something unique
Speaker 3: about you. And I just remember watching these kids' shows,
Speaker 3: in particular one woman called Shusha. She was this huge
Speaker 3: personality and I was like, God, I want to be
Speaker 3: like that one day. And I would also watch It's
Speaker 3: just so embarrassing. I would watch Baywatch nothing but like
Speaker 3: you know, it was like dubbed I think in Brazil,
Speaker 3: and it was like such a big deal and I
Speaker 3: was like, God, I can't wait till I go to
Speaker 3: America and I want to be an actor. And that's
Speaker 3: when the seed was planted. But there was no there
Speaker 3: were no steps to take or means of becoming an actor.
Speaker 3: And then at ten, I moved to New York City
Speaker 3: and I went to this this all girls Catholic school,
Speaker 3: which was like a huge culture clash for me because
Speaker 3: I went from like a very warm, wonderful, loving, beautiful
Speaker 3: environment to like a very sort of rigid, judgmental. I
Speaker 3: kind of like retreated into a cocoon in a way.
Speaker 3: And my only outlet was school plays and I got
Speaker 3: into that and I played Jesus and god Spell at
Speaker 3: the All Girls' School. This is a very long answer
Speaker 3: to your question. I apologize sung.
Speaker 2: But now we're here for it.
Speaker 3: There was this showcase because in New York, obviously you
Speaker 3: have access to like classes, and so I got into
Speaker 3: the showcase where they taught you like very technical things
Speaker 3: like how to audition and how to get headshots. And
Speaker 3: that's how I met one of my first agents from
Speaker 3: J Michael Bloom, and she immediately started submitting me. So
Speaker 3: I would I would go like I would leave my
Speaker 3: class and get on a payphone and put in my
Speaker 3: quarter and go, okay, wait, you want me to go
Speaker 3: to ABC Studios to audition for all my children. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'll go right after school at three fifteen.
Speaker 3: I'll get on the bus and go across. At ten,
Speaker 3: this was at fifteen. Sorry, she moved at ten and fifteen.
Speaker 3: You moved at ten using payphones to go to auditions fifteen? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm using payphones to go to auditions.
Speaker 2: Did your family go with you or did you move
Speaker 2: out by yourself?
Speaker 3: No, my family, well, my family was in New York
Speaker 3: with me, and I sort of had to convince them
Speaker 3: that this was they humored me while it wasn't a
Speaker 3: real thing. But then I got one of the jobs
Speaker 3: that I auditioned for, and then I had to really
Speaker 3: sort of lobby for myself and my mom. My dad
Speaker 3: was super chill about it and very supportive, and my
Speaker 3: mom was like, absolutely not, I'm not letting you. She
Speaker 3: was very nervous that I was too young, that I
Speaker 3: was going to be taking advantage. But I said, you
Speaker 3: know what, let me do this. Let me prove that
Speaker 3: I can do this at a young age. And I promised,
Speaker 3: you all stay in school, I'll get decent grades and
Speaker 3: I'll go to college. And that was the deal I
Speaker 3: struck with them, and they let me, and it was
Speaker 3: the best decision for me because I was with adults
Speaker 3: and as the World Turns and the Show and CBS,
Speaker 3: I had the best mentors. I remember. My dad was
Speaker 3: this guy called Benjamin Hendrickson who had gone to Juilliard,
Speaker 3: and he was like, Jordana, you need to stop swearing, Jordana,
Speaker 3: you need to like He would give me like drop
Speaker 3: these like pearls of wisdom, which I still remember to
Speaker 3: this day. That job taught me how to behave on
Speaker 3: a set, taught me about professionalism and also taught me
Speaker 3: how to like be comfortable in front of a camera
Speaker 3: and taught me how to like memorize pages and pages
Speaker 3: of dialogue at a time.
Speaker 1: Because as the world turns for listeners out there with.
Speaker 3: It was a soap opera, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, and the pace of a soap opera is super fast, right.
Speaker 3: It's super fast. It's you have one episode per day
Speaker 3: and you get the episode I think a couple days
Speaker 3: before and also.
Speaker 2: Sometimes changed like pages that morning of right.
Speaker 3: They can, yeah, they can. And it's also it's almost
Speaker 3: like a summer camp experience. You get your little dressing room,
Speaker 3: you see everyone in the makeup room. It just it
Speaker 3: was the best, warm, loving environment. I loved it. And
Speaker 3: I did miss out on school to a certain extent
Speaker 3: because I went to this school called PCs Professional Children's School,
Speaker 3: and we were kind of like a squad of weirdos
Speaker 3: because it was like musicians from Juilliard and ballerinas and
Speaker 3: male ballet students from School of American Ballet. Macaulay Culkin
Speaker 3: was there. But we all knew what we wanted to
Speaker 3: do and we were pursuing that. So that's how I
Speaker 3: got my start, and then I think at eighteen when
Speaker 3: I was graduating, I got the faculty Robert roy Register. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Robert Roger gets directed. So that was a huge break
Speaker 3: for me. And then I had to convince my parents
Speaker 3: to let me differ from college for a year, and
Speaker 3: they did. I was pretty convincing. And then I had
Speaker 3: to take another semester off for Fast and Furious because
Speaker 3: I got that during one of the summer breaks at
Speaker 3: school and we went over a little bit for the
Speaker 3: first fast.
Speaker 2: Do you remember where you were when you found out
Speaker 2: booking that job and did you think it would become
Speaker 2: the franchise that it is today.
Speaker 3: Booking the job was not a big deal to me.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean I took it for granted. I
Speaker 3: just mean I guess I don't have a nose because
Speaker 3: the stuff I think is going to be a big
Speaker 3: deal never turns out to be a big deal. Like
Speaker 3: I booked a job with playing Cameron Diy as a sister.
Speaker 3: It was based on a novel that I loved. It
Speaker 3: was a book called Invisible Circus, and I thought it
Speaker 3: was going to be massive and it was a whole
Speaker 3: summer spent shooting in Europe and it was a really
Speaker 3: like dramatic turn, and it like it was a total
Speaker 3: flop and it led nowhere. And yet this movie about
Speaker 3: which was a subculture I didn't necessarily understand, having grown
Speaker 3: up in New York and wasn't super familiar with Vin
Speaker 3: or Paul. So all that to say, I don't remember
Speaker 3: where I was when I found out about getting that role.
Speaker 3: But I sure do remember where I was when I
Speaker 3: heard we hit forty eight million in the first weekend. Wow,
Speaker 3: because that was like unheard of.
Speaker 2: Where were you?
Speaker 3: I was okay, So I would spend weekends on Long
Speaker 3: Island and I would go to like the same movie
Speaker 3: theater in East Hampton, and I was at the parking
Speaker 3: lot next to the A and P when, like I
Speaker 3: think Saturday morning, you would get a call from the
Speaker 3: studio and your agents. It was like that was the tradition.
Speaker 3: And I remember getting that call on.
Speaker 1: Me, What did you think that it was going to
Speaker 1: be a hit while you were shooting? Not at all.
Speaker 1: You were saying, no, no, I.
Speaker 3: Had no idea. I mean, I think in some ways
Speaker 3: youth is wasted on the young because I think now
Speaker 3: when I'm on a set, I'm present, I relish it.
Speaker 3: I know how special it is to get a gang
Speaker 3: of like artists that get to express themselves, whether it's
Speaker 3: you know, the set designer, the prop master, the costume designer.
Speaker 3: Like it's such a wonderful opportunity. We all have to
Speaker 3: do what we love. But back then I was so
Speaker 3: trapped and like feeling self conscious and am I going
Speaker 3: to do this the right way? And I think it's
Speaker 3: how I got through life because I was balancing, like
Speaker 3: I was going to Yale, I was studying, I was
Speaker 3: living alone. I was you know. So I think I
Speaker 3: got through it by sort of being very type A
Speaker 3: and rigid. So I didn't like stop to enjoy it
Speaker 3: or go wait, I'm part of something special. I was
Speaker 3: sort of trapped in my head.
Speaker 1: What did you major at?
Speaker 3: You English?
Speaker 1: You're a English major? Why did you choose English?
Speaker 3: I love to read. I love to read books. I'll
Speaker 3: say I don't really like reading scripts. I have a
Speaker 3: really hard time focusing on scripts because I feel like
Speaker 3: bad ones, which I think we read a lot of
Speaker 3: in this industry, like they miss like the yummy characters
Speaker 3: and the backstory and all the like. I love reading
Speaker 3: a good book and relating to oh wait, like I
Speaker 3: see myself that or I see my family patterns in
Speaker 3: that and relating to someone that wrote it like one
Speaker 3: hundred or two hundred years ago is such a delicious feeling.
Speaker 2: What are you reading right now?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: I have a book club with my husb and my
Speaker 3: former roommate Deborah. And one of my favorite writers is
Speaker 3: Virginia Wolf. And I wrote my thesis on Orlando, and
Speaker 3: apparently Virginia Wolf loved Catherine Mansfield's writings and so she
Speaker 3: wrote a book of short stories. So that's that's what
Speaker 3: we've tackled. But we have yet to schedule this, but
Speaker 3: we will. Yeah. It's really fun, especially when we don't agree,
Speaker 3: because I'll focus on like super emotional things and she'll
Speaker 3: be the far more analytical one, and she'll have read
Speaker 3: like a Gagillian books on a specific author, and I
Speaker 3: go with my gut and it's we have fun, fun debates.
Speaker 2: I very rarely read fiction. I'm a big fan of nonfiction.
Speaker 2: Oh really, but I just read a book. I'm going
Speaker 2: to space on the author, so please forgive me those listening.
Speaker 2: But the book is called Educated. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've come across that one, right, Yeah, Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 2: recommend I think it's Tara, Yes, Tara Westover, Okay, and
Speaker 2: about the times growing up without technology, their rural community,
Speaker 2: with not much outside exposure, where women weren't in the
Speaker 2: family allowed to get an education, and the battle of
Speaker 2: abuse and stuff like that. This poor girl I to
Speaker 2: endure through tough times. But speaking on the topic of books,
Speaker 2: that's one that I recently read that I thought was
Speaker 2: just so incredible. That'll be the next one for the
Speaker 2: book club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 1: Do you think if you didn't pursue acting you would
Speaker 1: be a writer? Is I why are you chose English?
Speaker 3: I think I probably would be a professor. I think
Speaker 3: with Hollywood, like there's this like stratification that occurs right
Speaker 3: where you're just like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I
Speaker 3: just learned to play the game, and now you're telling
Speaker 3: me the game has like completely shifted and I have
Speaker 3: to like play a completely different game. But I do
Speaker 3: think that it's really funny observing people in different jobs.
Speaker 3: Like everyone's got their own subculture, and within that subculture
Speaker 3: there's like this pecking order, and for example, for us,
Speaker 3: it's what movies have you done? And you know, how
Speaker 3: successful are you? And what ranking Back in the day
Speaker 3: it was like what ranking on IMDb, and I would
Speaker 3: check the message board. It's like the star meter. Yes,
Speaker 3: I guess it's a star meter. Now I've like I've been.
Speaker 3: I've banned myself from that at this point. But like
Speaker 3: the same thing exists in academia, right, it's how many
Speaker 3: papers have you published? And where did you work before?
Speaker 3: And how many degrees do you have. It's still a snobbery,
Speaker 3: it's just a different kind of snobbery. But anyway, circling
Speaker 3: back to your question, I do think I would be
Speaker 3: a professor, although I think I would love to lecture
Speaker 3: and correct papers and but and maybe i'd be more
Speaker 3: of a researcher. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it would be tough for you as a professor.
Speaker 1: I think you would have a lot of like male
Speaker 1: students and.
Speaker 2: Come on, right, at least have good attendance for your classes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'd get good scores.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, when you say that the business of Hollywood
Speaker 1: has changed, what have you noticed since you started?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I've noticed that there used to be
Speaker 3: a certain path. The path was you you get an
Speaker 3: agent that helps you, that you get a manager, contacts
Speaker 3: within studios, like I think for Fast, I was with
Speaker 3: Peter Levine and Patrick white Sell at CIA. Patrick white
Speaker 3: Sell was good friends with Scott Stuber who worked at Universal,
Speaker 3: and that's how I got an inn, right, Like they
Speaker 3: suggested me to Rob. I had an audition with Rob Cohen.
Speaker 3: We hit it off.
Speaker 1: Scott Stuber runs Netflix now, right.
Speaker 3: But back in the day he was the executive at Universal.
Speaker 3: But now I'll say certain things to my manager, like well,
Speaker 3: I don't understand, like why can't we call so and
Speaker 3: so at Disney or so and so? And She's like, Sweetie,
Speaker 3: it doesn't work that way anymore. Like that's not like
Speaker 3: the old avenues of like someone doesn't make a call
Speaker 3: and help get a job. Now it's they're watching tapes
Speaker 3: or everyone puts yourself on tape or like I recently,
Speaker 3: I was really I fell in love with this Apple
Speaker 3: TV show because it was about different paths you can
Speaker 3: take and different Well it hasn't come out yet, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to read for it, and I didn't even
Speaker 3: get the opportunity to read because Jennifer Connolly's doing it.
Speaker 3: Like since when does Jennifer Connolly do TV?
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was it was so good. Did you read
Speaker 3: that script?
Speaker 1: Yea, based on a book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it had to do with like different levels
Speaker 3: of consciousness or reality and like that was super interesting
Speaker 3: to me. But I think it's there's so much more
Speaker 3: opportunity out there, but it's so much more competitive as well.
Speaker 3: And it sometimes it doesn't even matter how much you've done.
Speaker 3: They're just like, no, we're looking for something else, and
Speaker 3: that's that. So it's encouraging and discouraging at the same time.
Speaker 2: I imagine. So my norm is what you're speaking of prior
Speaker 2: to the time where you get an agent, you get
Speaker 2: a manager, you audition smaller industry. How have you seen
Speaker 2: influencing affecting that space.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it helps as far as getting like
Speaker 3: they'll check your numbers on Instagram or whatever and then
Speaker 3: like that'll help you get endorsement deals or if they
Speaker 3: need they need to hit certain markets. I guess there's
Speaker 3: this thing like certain agencies can do where they see
Speaker 3: like are you big in this market or that market?
Speaker 3: So I think that can be helpful. But I also think,
Speaker 3: like I've talked to teachers in the past where they're
Speaker 3: like someone was hired based on the number of followers
Speaker 3: they have, and I'm not sure whether or not they
Speaker 3: can act. But the positive side about that is that
Speaker 3: you can create your own content, put it out there,
Speaker 3: and sort of control your destiny a bit more. You
Speaker 3: don't have to wait for the right thing to come along.
Speaker 3: So I think that's a tool you have, right, Sure,
Speaker 3: I wasn't speaking for myself. Yeah, but your generation, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that's super empowering. You can sort of control
Speaker 3: the narrative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a lot more medians that are out
Speaker 2: there that you can produce content for, be it for
Speaker 2: vertical content like snapchat, TikTok, Instagram, or even something like YouTube.
Speaker 1: Well also even you know, when I talk to Amelia
Speaker 1: about her YouTube influence, right, she hates to be called
Speaker 1: a YouTuber, but a content maker, a YouTube were YouTube
Speaker 1: where She's like, I hate that word, right when you
Speaker 1: hate about it.
Speaker 2: Though I wouldn't say I hate the word. I think
Speaker 2: people are just very quick to judge when they hear
Speaker 2: the word YouTuber or influencer. I feel like I've been
Speaker 2: able to build an incredible business, build these incredible cars,
Speaker 2: and break records and be this I guess influence in
Speaker 2: the car space and breaking barriers, especially as a woman
Speaker 2: in a male dominated space. So then when people say, oh,
Speaker 2: she's an influencer, I look at it as a good thing,
Speaker 2: but there's just this derogatory term that comes with it
Speaker 2: where it's almost not looking at my successes are the
Speaker 2: accolades or the accomplishments that I've made in my life,
Speaker 2: and more so, oh she holds a cameraun film stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's really what it comes to.
Speaker 1: You has a message and like I ethos through the
Speaker 1: content that she does, a lot of people are out
Speaker 1: there shaking ass or something, you know, totally. But what
Speaker 1: I was really impressed about was, you know, when I
Speaker 1: was like starting out, I had like ten jobs to
Speaker 1: feed myself, you know, and the fact that she can
Speaker 1: actually not have to do that, because yeah, this idea
Speaker 1: of starving actor is ridiculous because if you're starving and
Speaker 1: you have ten jobs, you can't focus on your work.
Speaker 1: You can't afford class, you can't go do a play,
Speaker 1: you can't go watch.
Speaker 2: Film, can't get headshots that you need.
Speaker 1: You got to go and work all day. So figure
Speaker 1: out a way where you can be self sufficient and
Speaker 1: you don't have to go and have ten jobs, right.
Speaker 3: But I did. I now understand that, like when I'm
Speaker 3: in LA and auditioning and not working proactively I do
Speaker 3: it is like I'm like a wild animal in a cage,
Speaker 3: and it's very difficult to just on the receiving end
Speaker 3: of everything and not be creating. I think that's very
Speaker 3: hard for creative people. So to have a side hustle,
Speaker 3: I think is a very healthy thing.
Speaker 1: A question for you, Jordana. I've never had this conversation
Speaker 1: with a working actor. I mean we've been around for
Speaker 1: a while, right, so you know when I get asked
Speaker 1: to like put something on tape, I used to have
Speaker 1: this like visceral reaction like, oh, how dare you just
Speaker 1: go look at the stuffs? Yeah, what are you asking
Speaker 1: me to do? Like like I speak English, like come on,
Speaker 1: I commemorized lines, Well what do you need? I still
Speaker 1: struggle with it when my rep sent me stuff and
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, they want you on tape. It's like
Speaker 1: everyone's on tape, and I'm like first reaction is like
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, and then I have to they have
Speaker 1: to call me, they have to kind of grease me up,
Speaker 1: and they have to tell me like you know, who
Speaker 1: the people are involved. And then also it's a lot
Speaker 1: of sometimes they don't give you a script, so here
Speaker 1: are the sides. And as an actor, I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: Even as a director or a producer, I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you would expect an actor to do their best
Speaker 1: work when you just give them sites and there's no
Speaker 1: context of the character or the story. Yeah, so where's
Speaker 1: your arc? Like, how are you going to like develop
Speaker 1: this character?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And everything's so you know, secretive these days, right, So
Speaker 1: most of the time I just say I'm okay if
Speaker 1: you're looking for an actor that doesn't need to like
Speaker 1: actually create a character and just need somebody to regurgitate lines,
Speaker 1: like I'm not for you. But then I don't work
Speaker 1: as often. Yeah, so I mean how do you overcome that?
Speaker 3: I mean, for the most part, I audition and I'll
Speaker 3: put myself on tape, which requires like this is going
Speaker 3: to sound really superficial, but it requires a blowout.
Speaker 1: The good lighting.
Speaker 3: Like I have to like go put myself on tape
Speaker 3: with this awesome guy jokel who does like beautiful tapes.
Speaker 3: I usually coach for it so that I can get
Speaker 3: warm and feel what it is. But the one thing
Speaker 3: I do require from be it my manager or my agents,
Speaker 3: is that I need to know like the range of
Speaker 3: what they're looking at, like if they're not looking if
Speaker 3: they're looking for like a broad range and it's out
Speaker 3: to like whoever, I'm like, you know what, let's let's
Speaker 3: not waste everyone's time. But if it is within my reach,
Speaker 3: I'll do it. Or like recently, like I've been trying
Speaker 3: to prove to everyone, people in this industry are super
Speaker 3: myopic as far as like what they believe, Like they
Speaker 3: need to see you do something until they believe you can.
Speaker 3: But how are they going to know you can until
Speaker 3: Like how are they going to see you do it
Speaker 3: unless you're given the opportunity. So that's my case with comedy,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I love comedies. I love to laugh.
Speaker 3: I have a super sarcastic dress sense of humor. But
Speaker 3: no one's given me the shot, and so I'm constantly
Speaker 3: putting myself on tape for comedies especially and I haven't
Speaker 3: gotten one yet, Like whatever, I also think sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 3: it is a good exercise, but it is frustrating. It
Speaker 3: is frustrating because I'm like, let's not like especially when
Speaker 3: you're here. Sometimes they don't even watch the tapes. That's
Speaker 3: just that crushes me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this helps me because somebody at your
Speaker 1: level that has this positive perspective about tapes, it makes
Speaker 1: me or taping, you know, auditions, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know a big part of it. For me, My
Speaker 1: problem is like, you know, I have this ego. That
Speaker 1: ego is my enemy right times, and you know anytime
Speaker 1: that I've let that go and been open minded and going, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the process, enjoy it, like which is hard.
Speaker 3: I mean hard because for me too, I also feel
Speaker 3: like it's a relationship. Like if I'm going to do
Speaker 3: all that work, I would love some feedback. But I
Speaker 3: learned that, like I think it's been three months now
Speaker 3: where I just don't even ask anymore. I just like
Speaker 3: put it out there. I know I did a good job.
Speaker 3: But people don't give feedback anymore. They don't even do that.
Speaker 3: They just like you're lucky if they watch the tape.
Speaker 3: And that's that.
Speaker 2: How do you balance being a mother while also filming
Speaker 2: on location?
Speaker 3: So I've definitely taken jobs based on like how is
Speaker 3: this going to impact my kids? And I've been fortunate
Speaker 3: enough that with like movies like Fast I can bring
Speaker 3: them because the budget allows it, and it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: It's great, But like with television, I'm always like it
Speaker 3: has to shoot in LA because I don't have the
Speaker 3: kind of kids that are mobile, Like they can't just
Speaker 3: adjust to any environment, so they're always at the forefront
Speaker 3: of like, wait, can I do this? Can I not
Speaker 3: do this? But I'm also real with them, like when
Speaker 3: they complain. Sometimes they and I think this happens a
Speaker 3: lot with kids in LA. Sometimes they see me working
Speaker 3: as a luxury. They're like, well, mommy, you're leaving, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, who do you think's paying for school
Speaker 3: and your house? And I had to check them in
Speaker 3: a way because it all looks so fun. They don't
Speaker 3: literally see the work that goes into it.
Speaker 2: R speaking of work, I'm curious to know your process
Speaker 2: that goes into preparing for a role.
Speaker 3: I can't do it alone. I don't like doing it
Speaker 3: in the vacuum. I used to. I used to think that,
Speaker 3: like studying was a sign of weakness, which was so strange.
Speaker 3: I don't know why studying how just like acting like
Speaker 3: wasn't open to it. And then once I got to LA.
Speaker 3: After graduating school, I realized I had a lot of
Speaker 3: time on my hands and I needed to work, and
Speaker 3: I went to several different types of classes and one
Speaker 3: of the best teachers who also hasn't a weekly class,
Speaker 3: was Nancy Banks. And that was really a game changer
Speaker 3: for me because Nancy's also very direct and tough, but
Speaker 3: tweaks things very specifically, like I would watch performances and go,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that person's incredible, How what is she
Speaker 3: going to say? And yet she would she would adjust it.
Speaker 3: And that allowed me to also see what a director's
Speaker 3: job is in a different light, because I would always
Speaker 3: dread direction thinking I just want to get an A
Speaker 3: and like, don't give me a type, wanting.
Speaker 2: To be perfect.
Speaker 3: But I didn't realize, like, no, it's just an adjustment.
Speaker 3: We're playing, Like don't be afraid of that, Like that's
Speaker 3: you know, and it's oftentimes it's about chemistry and is
Speaker 3: something working, and don't be afraid to try and.
Speaker 2: Forget that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So so that was a game changer for me,
Speaker 3: and and now I've I've shifted to even having someone
Speaker 3: on set. I also work with Rebecca kit who's been
Speaker 3: wonderful and it gets me out of my head so
Speaker 3: that I'm not acting and judging at the same time.
Speaker 3: I let her be the judge and then work with
Speaker 3: her feedback, which which is great.
Speaker 2: What about for memorizing.
Speaker 3: I used to be such a good memorizer, and now
Speaker 3: I use these apps because I realize it's have you
Speaker 3: ever done this where you memorize something like dictating it
Speaker 3: or reading it? Like orally, it's a completely different thing.
Speaker 3: Like when you hear it, you're like, oh wait, that's
Speaker 3: it's a different part of your brain that's working. So
Speaker 3: I need to hear it. I need to get my
Speaker 3: cues so that I know what the cues are. So
Speaker 3: I use this app it's called line Learner, and then
Speaker 3: when I'm in the car, I'll just like have my
Speaker 3: cues and then I'll look like a crazy person and
Speaker 3: say my line is in the car.
Speaker 2: Just pretend like you're on the phone. Normal.
Speaker 3: No, but line Learners has been a game changer. That's
Speaker 3: been really really helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is helpful, and that's helpful for any up
Speaker 2: and coming actors listening to this wanting to get into
Speaker 2: it and don't know how to study. That is a
Speaker 2: very resourceful tool.
Speaker 1: But You've worked with actors that come to set and
Speaker 1: they haven't memorized their lines at all. Well, I've worked
Speaker 1: with some words. Really I don't understand that times, but
Speaker 1: then you see their work and you're like, holy moly,
Speaker 1: this is actually pretty good. You know for those people
Speaker 1: out there, it's like you show up to set and
Speaker 1: you kind of have a blocking rehearsal where the director
Speaker 1: would like, you know, and the and the cameraman would
Speaker 1: love for you to kind of hit your marks, and
Speaker 1: they set these marks. And I've worked with actors they're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want that, I don't do that, you know,
Speaker 1: let me feel this out. And then there are actors
Speaker 1: that you know, I need to know everything, I need
Speaker 1: to have everything on point, and then we can kind
Speaker 1: of like flow from there. And then also, like you said,
Speaker 1: the director, some directors let you play, let you figure out,
Speaker 1: like where would you like to stand? Where do you
Speaker 1: think you're going to hit here? And then some directors
Speaker 1: like they move you like little lego pieces, like you
Speaker 1: will stand there, you will deliver this word there, and
Speaker 1: you will not deviate, and if you deviate, like you
Speaker 1: miss one word, they'll call cut. You know, what do
Speaker 1: you like and what process do you perform?
Speaker 3: I was about to say, I think it shifts according
Speaker 3: to like phases in life. I mean, I worked with
Speaker 3: someone who didn't know their lines, and I was getting
Speaker 3: so frustrated because I was like, how dare someone take
Speaker 3: this opportunity for granted and show up not knowing their lines?
Speaker 3: But then this same person is like unbelievable at what
Speaker 3: I'm not, which is like off the cuff improv and
Speaker 3: is hilarious. And I also think it's not that the
Speaker 3: person didn't know their lines, it's just that the person
Speaker 3: I don't know might be dyslexic and has trouble learning lines.
Speaker 3: But I think in my twenties I was so like
Speaker 3: rigid and judgmental that I didn't allow I didn't have
Speaker 3: that perspective, and now I do. And in my twenties
Speaker 3: I wanted to be told, Okay, I need the structure,
Speaker 3: I need the framework, I need to know exactly what's
Speaker 3: going to happen. And now I do like to play
Speaker 3: and I like more of a collaborative set where everyone's
Speaker 3: sort of weighing in. And the other thing I really
Speaker 3: love is like playback, which I think a lot of
Speaker 3: actors don't like is when you can watch what they've
Speaker 3: done and sort of adjust what's working or what's not working.
Speaker 3: We didn't have that on this last movie I did,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's such a bummer not to
Speaker 3: be able to assess what's happening. But I do like rehearsal.
Speaker 3: I think that comes from going to class and working
Speaker 3: on stage and working on something for weeks at a time.
Speaker 3: I do like rehearsal. I don't just like winging it.
Speaker 1: Well. Movie making is not like a play where you
Speaker 1: have weeks or months of rehearsal. Sometimes you show up
Speaker 1: and you never had one rehearsal. People are shocked that.
Speaker 1: I go, what rehearsal? What are you talking about rehearsal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't have a table read. We just show up
Speaker 1: and then there's maybe a blocking rehearsal. Yeah lucky right.
Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah, but there are Like I just worked
Speaker 3: with Laurence Fishburne on something, and he was doing little
Speaker 3: things that made such a difference, Like we all had
Speaker 3: to be a little bit tipsy in this dinner scene,
Speaker 3: and he just think before they called action, he would
Speaker 3: just start laughing and it was like this good girl laughing,
Speaker 3: or he would just start like riffing on the lines
Speaker 3: like right before, so that by the time the cameras
Speaker 3: were rolling, we were all just in it. That takes
Speaker 3: such courage and it sort of takes a leader to
Speaker 3: get the ball rolling. And that was so fun because
Speaker 3: that was like we were all playing. So I want
Speaker 3: to have more moments like that on set because those
Speaker 3: are like, it's just such a fun trick, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's nice when somebody like Laurence Fishburne, who's
Speaker 1: a OG. Yeah, been around a long time, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's like, you know, higher on the call sheet.
Speaker 1: He has the ability to set the tone right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and set it's such a positive tone of fun. It
Speaker 1: sucks when it's the opposite, when like sometimes number one
Speaker 1: on the call sheet.
Speaker 3: Because that's energy, right, like you feel it like it's
Speaker 3: tough when someone's like trapped in their stuff, and then
Speaker 3: that sort of seeps into like the crew and everyone
Speaker 3: else and just brings the whole vibe down.
Speaker 1: Like you said. You know, as I've gotten older, I've
Speaker 1: been able to empathize and actually even enjoy that process
Speaker 1: more because before I used to go, how dare you?
Speaker 1: How dare you show up? With your toxic bullshit and
Speaker 1: ruin this for everybody, and ruin it for the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast and crew. It's called collaboration for a reason.
Speaker 1: It's not just love you. And now I step back
Speaker 1: and I go, well, how can I be part of
Speaker 1: the solution and that part of the problem, right? And
Speaker 1: I realized, I go, that's probably you know, on a
Speaker 1: special skill, Like that's what I focus on now, is like, okay,
Speaker 1: I know movie making. There's a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: out of her control. And if I can show up
Speaker 1: and you know, be part of the solution, no matter
Speaker 1: what the problem is. And sometimes it's a person, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's a director or an actor. And I used to
Speaker 1: take it so personally we're ruined the whole experience for me, right,
Speaker 1: And now I go, hey, you know, I'm here for
Speaker 1: a reason. Let me contribute in a positive way and
Speaker 1: let me help this person through his process. And it
Speaker 1: changes everything, you know, because then I realized I was
Speaker 1: kind of guilty of the same thing. It's about me
Speaker 1: and like how you're making me feel right, And when
Speaker 1: you have you know, people that are there to go, hey,
Speaker 1: this perspective. We're so lucky to be able to do this.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. People go it must be so hard
Speaker 1: what you do, and I go, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: They think about it. This is the only job in
Speaker 1: the world where I can show up with no underwear.
Speaker 1: I remember on one one job, my wife said, are
Speaker 1: you going to pack? I go no, I want to
Speaker 1: test this theory. So I took nothing. I took my passport.
Speaker 1: And you need anything, No, because you show up, somebody
Speaker 1: picks you up, they drop you off, somebody meets you
Speaker 1: at the airport, they take you to your place. There's
Speaker 1: like a gift basket of stuff, and somebody hands you money.
Speaker 1: Before when they used to give you per diem, I
Speaker 1: know I missed the cash perdiem.
Speaker 2: I want cash perdum what cash cash?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, right, Oh that was amazing.
Speaker 1: And then I go, oh, we have a fitting. I
Speaker 1: go to the custom designer and I go, hey, I
Speaker 1: have no underwear, and they're like, here's a whole box
Speaker 1: of underwear. I have no socks. I go to makeup
Speaker 1: to the makeup hair test and I go, you know,
Speaker 1: I have no toothbrush. Oh, here's some toothbrush. You have
Speaker 1: any saline solution with the container, Oh, we have that.
Speaker 1: Here's a razor. Here's this, and then you go to work.
Speaker 1: Somebody wrote the lines for you to say. Ten people
Speaker 1: ask you, are you hungry? You want some tea or
Speaker 1: this whatever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, And then there's people around you that are actually working,
Speaker 1: they're like moving stuff. And then we have somebody like
Speaker 1: hold umbrella when it's sprinkling a little rain, Like it's crazy,
Speaker 1: how spoiled we are?
Speaker 2: Real the actor's defense, though, I don't think it's an
Speaker 2: easy job.
Speaker 1: What's hard about it?
Speaker 2: I think it's very challenging to be present in the
Speaker 2: moment with another person, also trying to find your objective,
Speaker 2: your intention, trying to live out the story. I think
Speaker 2: that part of the craft is why I think everyone
Speaker 2: on set is so understanding. Do you need anything? Can
Speaker 2: I help you? Because it's it's a very you know,
Speaker 2: of a lighthearted set. Sure it can be on the
Speaker 2: easier side, but sometimes you have to pull out these
Speaker 2: very raw and dark performances.
Speaker 1: But it's all pretend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends how personally you take that depending.
Speaker 1: Huh, well, I can understand that.
Speaker 2: But different sets, you know, different, you know, comedy is
Speaker 2: a lot different than shown up for a drama project.
Speaker 1: I don't know I mean, I understand what you're saying, right,
Speaker 1: and then sometimes the physical stuff, like you know, the stunts,
Speaker 1: like there it's physical demanding, especially if you're out of shape.
Speaker 3: But there are also sets where they don't do any
Speaker 3: of that stuff for you.
Speaker 2: I think you're talking about the fastest ones are very cushy.
Speaker 3: The indies are true. Like the last thing I did,
Speaker 3: the financing didn't come through till the very almost the
Speaker 3: penultimate day, and like I am a control freak, Like
Speaker 3: that's probably my last and in this lifetime is to
Speaker 3: just seed control. And I just and it's very difficult
Speaker 3: for me with two little kids and everything I have
Speaker 3: to put in place when I leave town, and I
Speaker 3: just I didn't know if the thing was happening or not.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's to me, that's the most challenging
Speaker 3: part of our job. Is am I going to be
Speaker 3: in Australia this summer? Am I going to be here?
Speaker 3: Finding out the week before you need to be somewhere
Speaker 3: else and maintaining your friendships, right, I mean I had
Speaker 3: to have friends check me at some point and be
Speaker 3: like you know that when you go on set, you
Speaker 3: like disappear and then you come back and you think
Speaker 3: we're just going to be there, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: thank you for telling me that, because I didn't realize
Speaker 3: I was doing that. But you kind of do sort
Speaker 3: of go on this margic carpet right and disappear.
Speaker 1: Don't you think we're kind of like, yeah, circus performers,
Speaker 1: and then we create our own family and then a
Speaker 1: lot of these people you might never see again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think because I moved around so much as
Speaker 1: a kid and my stepfather was in the military, I
Speaker 1: had to learn this ability to be able to connect
Speaker 1: with people right away. So it's actually I used to
Speaker 1: hate it. I used to hate the fact that I
Speaker 1: didn't have all of these like friends from my childhood
Speaker 1: that I kept in touch with every two years or
Speaker 1: every year or two years we'd be hopping around. But
Speaker 1: actually serves me right, you know, in the movie business
Speaker 1: because as an actor, because I'm able to connect with
Speaker 1: people right away, and it doesn't like I don't go
Speaker 1: through this long grieving process when I don't see them again,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's why like fast is like, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the minority jobs. Because we do see each other,
Speaker 1: it's like a big family reunion and people make fun
Speaker 1: of us all the time about oh, they keep saying family,
Speaker 1: keep saying family. But as I get older, I do
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that when we do see each other, Jordana,
Speaker 1: the cast and crew, it is like a huge dysfunctional
Speaker 1: family to get together.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the secret to the franchise. What
Speaker 1: do you think, since you've been there from the beginning,
Speaker 1: why do you think this franchise is able to live
Speaker 1: so long and so many people around the world have
Speaker 1: been able to connect with it.
Speaker 3: I love that when people recognize me, they call me Mia, right,
Speaker 3: they don't call me Jordana, and they feel like they're
Speaker 3: part of the family, and we've got like a secret code.
Speaker 3: And I love that inclusivity that the franchise has. I
Speaker 3: mean that the first one was small and was special
Speaker 3: and did speak to this subculture. But as we grew,
Speaker 3: I think we did a beautiful job of keeping what
Speaker 3: the seed was while we kept expanding and evolving. And
Speaker 3: it is beautiful that in real life, like the I mean,
Speaker 3: the text chains we have and the way we check
Speaker 3: in on each other and the way we show up
Speaker 3: for one another, I think that does reflect what happens
Speaker 3: in the film as well. And I think people can
Speaker 3: see that, can sense that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Chris Ludacris was saying, I love him
Speaker 1: because I want to. I want to promote the movie
Speaker 1: in like a real way, like I don't want to
Speaker 1: just like you know, traditionally, the studio sends you kind
Speaker 1: of these pre made things or a lot of it
Speaker 1: is like trailer bits, and some of its stuff is
Speaker 1: very scripted, you know, to promote the movie. And then
Speaker 1: Chris was thinking, I've never seen a big franchise or
Speaker 1: like these superhero movies actually you know, post things where
Speaker 1: the cast is just hanging out and just very open
Speaker 1: and transparent or none of it's scripted, right, and it's
Speaker 1: very organic. So he found this information about before I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to be an actor, I always
Speaker 1: wanted to be a mime.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what got me into this idea of entertaining.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, my parents take me to
Speaker 1: San Francisco and you know, at the pier, they used
Speaker 1: to have these street performers, right, and this mime was
Speaker 1: there with the full makeup and everything, right like Marceau
Speaker 1: Marceau almost like that, And in like the five minutes
Speaker 1: he was performing on the side of the street. He
Speaker 1: made me laugh, he made me cry, he taught me something,
Speaker 1: and there was a crowd of people just gathering without
Speaker 1: any words. He was able to move emotion right, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a superpower that I would love
Speaker 1: to have.
Speaker 3: That's so cool.
Speaker 1: But I mean, being actors hard, but making a living
Speaker 1: off of a mime is probably even harder. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know telling people, yeah, I would like
Speaker 1: to be a mime, and there's you know, I think
Speaker 1: there was like a school in France.
Speaker 3: So powerful in what you just said, because I do
Speaker 3: think that you do so much through very small like
Speaker 3: I can see the seed of that in what you do.
Speaker 3: That's so interesting. I love that he posted that, though.
Speaker 3: What did you not like about him posting that?
Speaker 1: Well, because I look like a clown and that because
Speaker 1: he's like, he goes, I heard you want to be
Speaker 1: a mime. He goes, how about we do you mind this?
Speaker 3: But I think that's what he probably wants to show everyone.
Speaker 1: I do agree with him, and that's what makes Chris
Speaker 1: like awesome human being.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of cool because his whole messaging is like,
Speaker 1: let the fancy who were really are like lilitivebits of that, right.
Speaker 1: I think it was a great idea.
Speaker 3: I also have to say about Chris, like he sat
Speaker 3: down with me and my husband Mason because we were
Speaker 3: really interested in Karma's World and how he did it
Speaker 3: and how he accomplished that, And I had no idea
Speaker 3: that it, like there were so many different iterations of
Speaker 3: that show and it took him ten years. And like
Speaker 3: he is to your point, he's so smart and strategic
Speaker 3: but also like so generous.
Speaker 1: And Karma's World is a animation that he and his
Speaker 1: daughter created together. Karma is his daughter, So it's like
Speaker 1: a kid's oriented show about empowering especially girls of color, right,
Speaker 1: because you know those shows are not prevalent on the air.
Speaker 1: So that's Karma's world. And then they have toys and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he thinks like a mogul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And something a little more personal. At my wedding,
Speaker 3: part of my wedding was like saying vows to our
Speaker 3: children because Mason and I were both coming to our
Speaker 3: marriage with kids already from previous marriages, and there was
Speaker 3: one g who had a similar experience and during the
Speaker 3: vow she was like sobbing like beside herself, and before
Speaker 3: she knew it, Chris, who didn't know her, came up
Speaker 3: to her and he goes, I need to understand what's
Speaker 3: happening right now, like tell me, and she did and
Speaker 3: he's like, I knew it. I knew it, and he
Speaker 3: just like helped her through that. And when I heard that,
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's him. That was very cool.
Speaker 3: Mmmm that's weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Something also that really strikes me, Jordana, with you, like
Speaker 1: getting to know you over these years, is that you
Speaker 1: have like a really deep friendship with your mother and
Speaker 1: your sister, like your family and your dad, Like wherever
Speaker 1: you are, the family's there.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's something that we don't talk about
Speaker 3: when we talk about the Fast family. Yeah, yeah, we're family.
Speaker 3: But within family there's also dysfunction. There's also fighting. There's
Speaker 3: also like crazy stuff that happened. And the same thing
Speaker 3: with my family. We all live like super close to
Speaker 3: each other. We are all in each other's business for
Speaker 3: better or worse. And that's the thing about families, like
Speaker 3: you can tear each other apart one minute, but unconditional love.
Speaker 1: It's something that through you. I've been trying to fix
Speaker 1: in my own personal life because I have a horrible
Speaker 1: relationship with my parents. Right, maybe because I'm a guy,
Speaker 1: it's a little easier for me not to talk to
Speaker 1: my mother. But it's something like anytime I see you
Speaker 1: and your mother, Oh god, I need to be a
Speaker 1: better son.
Speaker 3: Oh it's really hard saying that. It's hard, but you
Speaker 3: know what I had to learn. I had to learn
Speaker 3: that I don't have to talk about everything. Like within
Speaker 3: every relationship there's certain topics or hot buttons or stuff
Speaker 3: you just shouldn't get into because it gets too messy. Right,
Speaker 3: especially as you guys everyone gets older, it's like, just
Speaker 3: keep it light, Like, stop trying to change each other.
Speaker 3: That's not going to work. Let's just like love each
Speaker 3: other and keep it light. That's been that's been a
Speaker 3: game changer for me.
Speaker 1: That's actually great advice.
Speaker 3: I think we're in a society now where we feel
Speaker 3: like we have to like overshare and you share different
Speaker 3: things with different people at different times, you know.
Speaker 1: So with my mother, I would say, nothing's man, because
Speaker 1: she's she's drama man. She makes drama out of pancakes
Speaker 1: in the morning, you know what I mean. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just I'm trying to figure her out, like how,
Speaker 1: And as I get older, I go, stop looking at
Speaker 1: her as your mother and having motherly expectations, right, and
Speaker 1: see her as just like if you were to be
Speaker 1: her friend, right, And then I go, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: be her friend, like would I don't have friends like
Speaker 1: that in my life. And then I go, I kind
Speaker 1: of have to be like her dad.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that with my mom, where I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm the mom to my mom. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: she's also been through so much and I've seen so
Speaker 2: much of it that I feel bad and I want
Speaker 2: to just be there for her and things don't get
Speaker 2: too deep because at a certain point it's like you
Speaker 2: have to not care so much what other people do.
Speaker 2: You just have to be there for them and not
Speaker 2: take it personally, which is hard to do.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to do, especially when it's your mother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean as a mom. Once I became a mom,
Speaker 3: because my relationship with my mom was so powerful, I
Speaker 3: thought that, like every little thing I did would have
Speaker 3: this massive impact on my son's And so Freud's daughter
Speaker 3: was also She wrote a bunch of books and I
Speaker 3: think she sort of contradicted some of the stuff he said,
Speaker 3: which is interesting. But I feel like Freud had this
Speaker 3: template of like, the mom is the one who fucks
Speaker 3: everything up and destroys everything. And I think we blame
Speaker 3: the mom a lot, and I certainly did. And I
Speaker 3: also put so much responsibility and stress on myself as
Speaker 3: a mom, thinking like, oh my god, everything I do
Speaker 3: is going to have this massive impact on my son's
Speaker 3: and it's paralyzing, right because then you don't want to do, like,
Speaker 3: you don't want to make any decision. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a lot to unpack.
Speaker 2: How did the relationship with your mom change after having
Speaker 2: kids of your own?
Speaker 3: I got much better with boundaries. So my mom she
Speaker 3: would parent her grandkids as if like no bedtime, watch
Speaker 3: as much TV as you want. And I had to
Speaker 3: step in and go, dude, like you got to sort
Speaker 3: of follow my rules to a certain extent or you're
Speaker 3: like you're just not going to see the grand kids
Speaker 3: as I had to get really tough, whereas before I
Speaker 3: would really have I set boundaries that I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: set for myself. Does that make sense.
Speaker 2: Because she's tough on you guys in the same way.
Speaker 2: And then when she had the grandkids, because I feel
Speaker 2: like that's a common thing and the grandparents. She felt
Speaker 2: like tough, eat the ice cream, sleep whenever you want.
Speaker 3: She was tough, and that's something I try not to do,
Speaker 3: is I try to whether or not my son does
Speaker 3: well at school or well at a game, or like,
Speaker 3: it's not a reflection of me. And I felt a
Speaker 3: lot of responsibility and it's probably my own stuff of like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, my appearance, because she was a model and
Speaker 3: she's stunning and she has her stuff together, and like
Speaker 3: I was constantly a reflection of hers. Is how I
Speaker 3: was made to feel. And I don't want my kids
Speaker 3: having that burden. I really want them to feel empowered
Speaker 3: and feel like they're blazing their own path. And that's
Speaker 3: a very difficult thing to do because there's so many
Speaker 3: obstacles with parenthood. You just feel like God, if they
Speaker 3: come out alive, that's you've done a good job.
Speaker 1: Were doing a great job. Thank you, the happiest kids
Speaker 1: you'll ever meet. Well, we could talk to you all day, Jordana.
Speaker 1: I think your words are so valuable for any aspiring
Speaker 1: actor out there. Thanks for sharing your journey and sharing
Speaker 1: your personal life with us.
Speaker 3: Super fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much,