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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And I hope you

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Speaker 1: like slash wipes because today's movie is full of them.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna be talking about the nineteen nine one.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what genre to call it movie.

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Speaker 1: The Giver geiver spelled g u y v e r.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Everybody I told about

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Speaker 1: this movie asked mug iver, and I had to say, no,

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Speaker 1: just geiver. I don't know where that word comes from.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna hear it a lot if you watch

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Speaker 1: the film. That's right. Yeah, this this film is it

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Speaker 1: is kind of hard to classify because they're they're aspects

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Speaker 1: of it that are really cranked up to the extreme,

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Speaker 1: and there's plenty of other things that are very traditional

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Speaker 1: about it. It's a it's a PG thirteen major motion picture.

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Speaker 1: It's a manga turned anime turned live action feature. I've

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Speaker 1: I've seen some people claim that it might be the

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Speaker 1: first Western adaptation of a manga. Uh. It's also I

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Speaker 1: guess you would classify this is a Tokusatsu film. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, very much like you know, various power rangers

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Speaker 1: and so forth, you know, costumed uh or you know,

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Speaker 1: mechanized or otherwise superpowered individuals fighting monsters. Essentially a rubber

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Speaker 1: monster costume slapfest. Sure, yeah, it's it's essentially in many

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Speaker 1: a large extent, you can make a case for this

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Speaker 1: being a kid's film. The effects are are rather extreme

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Speaker 1: in some cases, which really push it over the edge

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Speaker 1: and make it something that I'm not ready to show

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Speaker 1: my my son. Uh. It's definitely a monster movie. It's

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Speaker 1: got plenty of monsters, and it is a film that

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Speaker 1: I guess you would describe as a comedy. It certainly

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Speaker 1: tries to be funny many times and has I think

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Speaker 1: one legitimate and intentionally funny line. Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering who this is for. I enjoyed The Diver,

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Speaker 1: but despite much about it, it's this is one of

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Speaker 1: those movies where it's really not fit for adults and

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Speaker 1: not fit for children. It's got it's got a very

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Speaker 1: kids movie kind of sense of humor, the like silly

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Speaker 1: trombone music and everything, but it's also got uh stuff

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Speaker 1: that's obviously not fit for it. I mean, there's some

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Speaker 1: language in there, and like, the monsters are disgusting, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how to feel about this. But

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Speaker 1: also it's got, on one hand, Olympian makeup effects just

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Speaker 1: like squelching latex, mucous membranes and and kiten. This cod

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Speaker 1: pieces that are great they deserve formal apotheosis, but also

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Speaker 1: comedy that is so bloop de bloop and and cringe

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Speaker 1: that it will make your pets embarrassed. It even has

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Speaker 1: silly wraps. The comedy is dreadfully painful. It does have wraps.

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Speaker 1: I was delighted when I when I because because I

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Speaker 1: don't think I had either I either had not seen

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Speaker 1: this in its entirety before or I had forgotten the wraps.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's delightful that we have an

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Speaker 1: actual monster rapping on screen. Yes. Now, one thing I

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Speaker 1: was wondering is this movie came out in nine. How

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Speaker 1: well do you think it fits with my general theory

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Speaker 1: that the most culturally eighties year in American media was nine?

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Speaker 1: I would I would think it would lines up with

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Speaker 1: aspects of the film, you could certainly make a case

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Speaker 1: that that's the effects are maybe more you know, bleeding edge,

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Speaker 1: oozing edge even uh you know, but certainly I think

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Speaker 1: match up well with some of the you know, the

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Speaker 1: better special effects we saw in the in the nineteen eighties. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the elevator pitch on this? Uh so? Uh, what

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of is what if power Rangers were discussed? Thing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: morphin Power Rangers. Yeah, this this film was also it's

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Speaker 1: It was released as The Giver, based on you know,

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Speaker 1: it also was released with the title Neutronics, at least

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Speaker 1: in some places, especially I guess in France, because there's

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Speaker 1: this wonderful poster um that is perhaps more true to

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Speaker 1: like American poster. But it says Neutronics left film, and

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Speaker 1: re enacting the Breakfast Club poster poses. Yes, that's what

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Speaker 1: trailer audio. Yeah, I have. Now. I think one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons Rob correct me if I'm wrong, but I

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Speaker 1: who's special effects we have enjoyed in other weird house

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Speaker 1: giant mutated grasshopper man that our hero boxes. That was

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Speaker 1: And I see some of the same d n A

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Speaker 1: final beasts we come across in the Guiver. Yeah. When

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Speaker 1: you think of screaming Mad George's effects, you often think

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Speaker 1: a wizard of the synthetic flesh. I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are very few artists out there in the special

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Speaker 1: true all tours. You know that where they there's a

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Speaker 1: if you're sort of clued into their style. And I

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Speaker 1: would argue that Screaming Mad George born uh Joji Tani

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go a little deeper this time, since

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Speaker 1: he's heading this baby up. So I turned to a

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Speaker 1: book titled Monsters, Makeup and Effects, Volume One, Conversations with

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Speaker 1: Cinema's Greatest Artist by Heather Wixon, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: available wherever you get your books in different formats, but

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Speaker 1: it features a long interview with Screaming Mad George. So

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Speaker 1: according to the interview, you know, he grew up in

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Speaker 1: Japan inspired by cartoons and manga and anime, and he

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Speaker 1: certainly with finishing stories. He had plenty of ideas, and

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Speaker 1: turn to drawing, and then eventually turned to oil painting,

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Speaker 1: and after high school he attended the School of Visual

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Speaker 1: And when he was part of The Disgusting, he would

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Speaker 1: in which he switched up his persona to be less

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Speaker 1: about the gore and more about the bizarre. And I

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Speaker 1: Devil and uh it's good stuff. Yeah, I was. I

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Speaker 1: yasna Um who was called and so he Hasna called

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Speaker 1: him in to do effects on what would become Society,

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00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: he sells it so well. It's like there's a part

425
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: later where the Vivian Wou character like knees him in

426
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: the crotch, and despite mostly not really getting involved in

427
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: the drama of this movie, in that scene, I was like, yeah,

428
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, well, well we'll come back more to

429
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Gale's performance because it is it is stand out. But

430
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: there there's oh man, he's got such a crew working

431
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: under him, because yeah, Balkus can't do it alone. He

432
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: has these other zoonoids which are again monsters disguised as humans,

433
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: and the I guess the his his second in command

434
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: is number two is the illinoid Lisker, played by Michael Berryman.

435
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Another legend. Yeah Born. We talked about him briefly on

436
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: beast Master to the beast Master two episode because he

437
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: pops up at the end of that and kind of

438
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: a cameo. You know, well it just you know, shows up.

439
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 1: He recognize its Berryman, and he he kind of you know,

440
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: acts afraid, I guess and runs away. But in this

441
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: movie he really has the opportunity to flex his acting muscles.

442
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: So horror, action, romance, even uh comedy, Berryman can do

443
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: it all. Berryman was of course born with um with

444
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: hypo hydraulic ectodermal dysplaysia, a rare condition, leaving him with

445
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: no sweat glands, hair, fingernails, or teeth. And this gave him,

446
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: of course a unique look that was you know, utilized

447
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: in such films as One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest,

448
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: The Hills Have Eyes. Those kind of I guess helped

449
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: put him, um, you know, put put him in the spotlight.

450
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: But he's been in various other films and TV shows

451
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: over the years, a ton of stuff, Uh Star Trek,

452
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: The Voyage Home, Weird Science. He's one of the like

453
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: biker mutants. I think that shows up, Uh Star Trek,

454
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: The Final Frontier, The Devil's Rejects, The Bizarre and Problematic,

455
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: The Evil Within, and and many other films. Uh so, yeah,

456
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: he's he's a bona fide legend. All right. Then we

457
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: have another zoo annoyed named Ramsey and this one is

458
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: played by Peter Spellos board N and this is this

459
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: is one of the actors that I did not recognize,

460
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: but as it turns out, you know, he's a pretty

461
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: well known voiceover actor, especially in English dubs of anime.

462
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: So he's done voices in uh, the English dubs of

463
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: such titles as Pandaico Panda that was like an early

464
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Miyazaki project, Ghost in the Shell, Ghost in the Shell,

465
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: two point oh Street Fighter to the animated movie he

466
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: he does the English voice for Sagott and that. Uh.

467
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: And in his physical form, he's popped up in everything

468
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: Freddie's Dead, the Final Nightmare and married with children two

469
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Men in Black two in this movie, his character I

470
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: think has a Russian accent. Did I hear that right?

471
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't remember him talking so much.

472
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't talk as much. Uh. He shares a lot

473
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: of screen time with the Zoelenoid Striker, who is played

474
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: by Jimmy Walker born Jimmy Walker gets a lot of

475
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: screen time, especially in monster form in this movie. Yes,

476
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: and which and when he said, when they were all

477
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: these these characters, when they're in monster form, their voiced

478
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: by the the the actor. But yeah. Jimmy Walker stand

479
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: up comedian and actor, probably best remembered as JJ on

480
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the sitcom Good Times from through nineteen seventy nine, where

481
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: his catchphrase was oh Dino might Does he say it

482
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: in the movie, Yes, he does. Yeah, this this, This

483
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: is not the sort of movie that's gonna resist giving

484
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: the people what they want. They want that catchphrase. Well,

485
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: it's been like they save it till the very end.

486
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: It's a stinger. It's just all the other action is gone.

487
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: And then it just cuts back to Jimmy Walker's monster

488
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: character there and he just says dynamite. They're like, say,

489
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: you have to say it, this is why we cast you.

490
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: Um I joke, but he's actually I really enjoyed this performance.

491
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: Like he this is he is the one who raps.

492
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: I think he wraps in both human and monster form. Yes,

493
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: but it's like the cuss. It's a very style comedy movie,

494
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: silly rap. Yes. Yeah. I don't think anyone is going

495
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: to go out on a limb and say this is

496
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: a great rap. As far as wraps performed by by

497
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: monsters in horror movies, I don't know, Like that's that's

498
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: a really low bar. I mean you're up against the

499
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: crypt Keeper at that point, the crypt Keeper rap um. Okay,

500
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: so that's that's one Zoe anoid. Then we also have

501
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: our female Zoe annoyed Webber played by Spice Williams Crosby,

502
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: who I believe is supposed to be like the the

503
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: wife or girlfriend of the Michael berryman Zo Annoyed. This

504
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: movie has Zoo annoyed romance. Yes. Yeah, there's this wonderful

505
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: scene where they're they're in the van and they're just

506
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: talking about their future plans together about possibly what they're

507
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: traveling to Brazil. Yeah, we want to go to Brazil

508
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: one day. It's so sweet. And then they've got to

509
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: go kill the Earthlings. Yeah so. Uh. Spice Williams Crosby

510
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: or or Spice Williams as she was was often credited,

511
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: at least at the time of this film, actor, stunt

512
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: woman and all around just muscle woman. Um. Her biggest

513
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: role was playing the cling On Vixus in Star Trek

514
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: the Final Frontier. She did a lot of TV popping

515
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: up on The Master that is, The Master Ninja TV series, Uh,

516
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: Deep Space Nine, Seinfeld, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, among many others.

517
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Uncredited Vampire and from Dust Till Down, and as a

518
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: stunt player, she did a lot of stunts. She did

519
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: stunts in this film, for example, She's worked on tone

520
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: of big movies and as a stunt double for Shirley McClain,

521
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: Denise Crosby, Vicky Lawrence, Kelly Preston and others. Wow, in

522
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: her full monster zoanoid films, she kind of looks like

523
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: a furry owl slot, kind of like an owl bear

524
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: from Dungeons and Dragons. I was gonna say, she looks

525
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: like she's like a giant bat without wings. Yeah, all right,

526
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: And then this is more of a minor zoe Anoid.

527
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: He's a he's a zoe anoid who stays in the

528
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: lab for the most part and doesn't go out on

529
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: the field assignments. But we have Jeffrey Combs playing Dr East.

530
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: Dr East. He only shows up in the last twenty

531
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: minutes of the movie. Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey comes of course,

532
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: is the reanimator himself. The re animator was, of course

533
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Herbert West, so in here he's Dr East. Ye. Yeah,

534
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: And of course he was in the first two Reanimator

535
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: films alongside David Gayle. But but like Gayl he you know,

536
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: he have essentially built up this career as being kind

537
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: of a horror icon. I would say Jeffrey Combs is

538
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: kind of one of the few you can point and say, Okay,

539
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: twentie late twentieth century horror icon. Yeah, I mean, I

540
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: guess it started with Reanimator, right, but that that sort

541
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: of got him into a bunch of other stuff, Like

542
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: he ended up in The Frighteners, which is a much

543
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: forgotten movie, but that was like a big mainstream horror movie.

544
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: That's one of the interesting things about Combs is he

545
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: kind of bridges the gap between stuff like Reanimator, from

546
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Beyond Castle, Freak and Necronomicon Book of the Dead. He

547
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: there's that side to his work, but he also shows

548
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: up in some of these these big budget, like late

549
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties horror features like House on Haunted Hill. He

550
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: has a really frightening role in that as like a

551
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: murderous surgeon ghost. Oh. But also in The Frightenners, he

552
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: played It's been a long time since I've seen that,

553
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: but I recall he plays like an FBI agent who

554
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: turns out to be like a like a cult obsessed

555
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: maniac who's got these like scars and tattoos all over

556
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: his body. Oh cool, I know I never saw the Frighteners.

557
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: I remember he gets some mono long where he's like,

558
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: my body is a roadmap of pain. It comes was great.

559
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: He's great at chewing the scenery. Like He's not in

560
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: this movie much, but he makes the most out of it. Yes,

561
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: he did a lot of TV work as well. He's

562
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: done voiceover work. Um. And, as with his appearances in

563
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: Robot Jocks and Transfers to which we covered previously, this

564
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: is a minor but fun role agreed of. Of note here,

565
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: we do have a movie within a movie that pops

566
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: up as one of our chase sequences ends up moving

567
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: through a movie set and uh and it features uh

568
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: one notable appearance anyway. Uh. Leanna quickly shows up and Lenaea,

569
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Lenea quickly shows up playing a scream queen.

570
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: She's credited as scream Queen. Um, I guess she's sort

571
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: of playing herself. But she's of course best remembered for

572
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: playing I guess, various characters, but especially the punk zombie

573
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: from Return of the Living Dead, along with various other

574
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: films like Silent Night, Dead Night and Night of the demons.

575
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, Return of the Living Dead. What's that

576
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: line she has? She's like, don't you just love death? Um.

577
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: The other fun thing is in this movie within a movie,

578
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: the director of this picture shows up because he basically

579
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: we have one of our monsters wander in there and

580
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: they think he's part of the film, and so the

581
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: director comes up and he's like, no, let me tell

582
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: you how we're shooting this. And the director is played

583
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: by this guy, Michael Dieke, who was another special effects guy,

584
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: sometimes actor and at least one time actual director whose

585
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: work makeup and special effects and a bunch of things.

586
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: But he's also one of these guys that is six

587
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: foot six in height. So you know what happens if

588
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: you're a special effects guy and you're that tall, you're

589
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: wearing a monster costume at some point. So, as it

590
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: turns out, he was the Mummy Entails from the Dark

591
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Side the movie and the creature in Sellar Dweller the

592
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: Mummy was that the segment that had like Steve Bishemi

593
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, maybe a Christian Slater in there. It's

594
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: a pretty terrifying mummy, as I recall, because it's actually

595
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: like it starts removing people's brains through their nostrils. Oh

596
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: and Michael Deeke also played the character Horn in Arena.

597
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: That was all the main boss that are alien that

598
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: our boxing human boxer had to combat. Oh yeah, so

599
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: many fond memories of Arena that just keeps coming up

600
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: and it ages well in my memory. Just a wholesome film. Yeah. Um.

601
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: As for the music in this film, it is by

602
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Matthew Morse, very forgettable score, but it was apparently apparently

603
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: released as an album in Japan. It was Huh. It's

604
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of that that late eighties studio sound,

605
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: like the really bright bass guitar that might actually be

606
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: just a midi bass that somebody's playing on a keyboard,

607
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: has oceans of reverb on the drums. Uh, and also

608
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: that that horrible musical punctuation of physical comedy, like you know,

609
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: one of the goober Mont Stirs is acting dumb and

610
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: then we get the bloop to bloop trombone music. And

611
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: it also is a movie it has like those doink

612
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: spring sound effects for the slapstick. Yeah, there's a lot

613
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: of a lot of slapstick in this which I guess

614
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: is unavoidable to a certain extent because it's it's a

615
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: rubber monster movie. It is a rubber monster meet slapfest. Uh.

616
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: Though there are some good gooey stabs and by thrown

617
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: in for good measure, and at least one really awesome

618
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: looking giver clothes line like clotheslines one of the monsters,

619
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: and there's a nice bump in there. All right, shall

620
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: we do? Shall we jump into the plot of the Giver? Sure? Well?

621
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: I have a question to begin with, which is when

622
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: I first started watching, I had to go back and

623
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: turn off the auto Russian dubbing that my DVD started with.

624
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: So was this movie a big hit in Russia or something?

625
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: Why is it that our video, our disc from the

626
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: draw him as a Russian DVD. I don't know. Yeah,

627
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: they did the same thing for me. It started off

628
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: and then it was I didn't realize it was Russian

629
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: in first that well, maybe it's supposed to be like

630
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: an alien language or something, because he was playing over

631
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: the the opening narration, and then I quickly realized, oh no,

632
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Speaker 1: this is a this is a foreign language audio track,

633
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: And sure enough track one was Russian, Track two was

634
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: the original English. Okay, well, anyway, so this movie begins

635
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: with a Star Wars style text crawl over a starfield background,

636
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: which is read aloud for you as it rolls by

637
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: good choice. So it says, at the beginning of time,

638
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: aliens came to Earth to create the ultimate organic weapon.

639
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: They created mankind by planting a special gene into man.

640
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: They created zoe annoid's, humans who can change at will

641
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: into super monster soldiers. You with me so far? Okay.

642
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Eons later, the zoe annoyed leader called the Zoa Lord

643
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: has a A wakened and formed the Chronos Corporation to

644
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: further develop the zoe anoid technology for world domination. Okay, well,

645
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: how did he get the funding for that? Yeah, he

646
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: awakened from what where was he was asleep? And then

647
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm a CEO now, yes, And so he

648
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: becomes David Gale and puts on puts on a suit,

649
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: suppresses his zoe annoidiness and says, no, I will I

650
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: will dine on salads for lunch. I will wear a

651
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: tie um and and that's what he does. And then oh,

652
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: but the text goes on. It says among the alien

653
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: remains was found the unit a bio boosted alien armor

654
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: warned by the aliens. It serves as an ordinary shield.

655
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: If the wearer is human, it increases his natural powers

656
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: a hundred fold. He becomes the Giver, but how to

657
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: activate it remains a mystery. By the way, I think

658
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: all of this opening text crawls completely superfluous, because he

659
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: would learn all this stuff throughout the movie eventually anyway.

660
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: But all it really does is create additional plot holes. Yeah,

661
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: but then it also says Dr Tetsu Segawa, a research

662
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: scientistic chronos since his danger if this unit is activated

663
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: by the Zoo Lord. Now the doctor has stolen it

664
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: and is on the run. So we're in the present

665
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: tense now, and then we see what was just described.

666
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: We We open on a damp, dark, steamy bit of asphalt.

667
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: There's concrete everywhere. We're in the We're in a sort

668
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: of liminal space somewhere in I think future Los Angeles,

669
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: and there's a scientist in a lab coat. I guess

670
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: this is doctor Tagawa, and he's running around in the dark,

671
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: and he flips open a metal suitcase and inside we

672
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: see the Geiver. It is disc shaped overall. It's sort

673
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: of like Iron Man's little power pack, but it sort

674
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: of looks like a metal ball surrounded by leather flaps.

675
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: You got anything to add to that? Now that that's

676
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. It looks like alien technology,

677
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: so you know, we buy it and it flashes ominously

678
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: and makes sound effects. So uh. We see doctor to

679
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Go hiding the guiver among a pile of trash. I

680
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: think he crams it in a plastic lunch box and

681
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: then he takes the empty metal suitcase and he runs

682
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: off because he's being pursued by some heckling bad guys

683
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: in a van. They're the kind who are like they're

684
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: they're driving up on the overpass above and looking down

685
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: at him and they're like, hey, there he is. We're

686
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna get him. And then they eventually catch up to

687
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: him in a concrete canal. So again I guess this

688
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: is l ah. But the bad guys in the van

689
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: include Michael Berryman, Spice, Williams Crosby, Jimmy Walker, and Peter

690
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: Spellos and all in human form. All in human form

691
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: at this point, but they're being goofballs. There are antics

692
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: of plenty, and I have to say, Michael Berryman, it

693
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: looks pretty sharp in this when he shows up. When

694
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: he actually gets gets out of the vehicle and starts

695
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: walking around. Oh yeah, he's dressed in all black like

696
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: down to the ankles. He looks like the high priest

697
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: of Zoanoidism, and he says, he says to to Gawa,

698
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: he says, it's not too late. You can still come back.

699
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: But Togawa reacts to this by turning into a fishman,

700
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: like a giant bipedal fish head monster rips up out

701
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: of his skin, and at first Jimmy Walkers like, let

702
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: me have him, but Berryman steps forward. He's like, uh,

703
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: this is a job for the boss, so strap yourself

704
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: in for some morphin sequences because Berryman is going to

705
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: warp spasm and turn into a big creature. I mean well,

706
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: while he's warping, the fish Monster says um. He says,

707
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: these inhuman experiments must stop. So he's still speaking English.

708
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: But Berryman morphs through several stages. He becomes a kind

709
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: of cross eyed half pumpkinhead, and then eventually he becomes

710
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: a big old grimlin beast with giant yellow fangs, but

711
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: they're underbite fangs like the Orcs in the Warcraft games. Yeah,

712
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: and it's an impressive looking monster. Costume, a full body

713
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: costume here and with kind of a cool stance, like

714
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: you really buy this as a big physical threat, right,

715
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: and then they fight. You get the good meat slapping

716
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: sound effects. Somebody somebody was whipping steaks together right next

717
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: to a microphone. And eventually the Berryman Beast grabs the

718
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: fish Monster by the head and crushes his brain. And

719
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: they retrieved the suitcase and roll out, and then we

720
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: cut two credits. Yeah, yeah, that's it. The unit has

721
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: been returned to the zoanoids. So after the credits, we

722
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: meet our our our good guys. We go to an

723
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: i kedo studio where our dope young hero Sean is

724
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: sparring with fellow students. He seems to be not good

725
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: at aikido. He's repeatedly getting thrown But then Vivian Wu

726
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: comes in and apparently there's a romance butting between her

727
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: character miss Key and Uh and Sean, because he's like,

728
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: can I give you a ride home tonight and she's like, yeah,

729
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's better than the bus and he's like,

730
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: oh shocks, I think she's supposed to work in the

731
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: office at the aikido studio. Yeah, yeah, that's the cential kid. Yeah, okay,

732
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: So the aikido instructor starts teaching everybody how to do

733
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: a throw. So she's like, Hi, everybody, come watch this,

734
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: and so Sean's distracted. In Meanwhile, Mark Hamill walks in

735
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: behind Vivian wou Or. He kind of skunks in. And

736
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: in this movie, he wears this outfit that is white

737
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: slacks with a belt, a red sweater tucked into his pants,

738
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: and this huge suede coat hanging open. And again it's

739
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: hammil so you better believe he has a mustache. So

740
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: he takes miskey aside into the office. He explains, I'm

741
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Max Reid c i A. I've been investigating the Chronos

742
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Corporation where your father worked. Uh. First of all, he

743
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: says worked, like she doesn't know yet that he's been

744
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: had his head crushed, and he just starts off where

745
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: your father worked and uh. And the other thing is yeah, okay,

746
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: So in the world of this film, the c i

747
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: A investigates domestic corporate malfeasance. Anyway, so he starts to

748
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: tell a story that all gets re enacted while he's narrating.

749
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: So we're watching this happening, like we we fade to

750
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Mark Hamill in the dark, smoking a cigarette, sitting on

751
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: a big concrete wall, and he narrates, I've got some

752
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: bad news for you. Your father and I had a

753
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: meeting tonight. He was delivering something he'd gotten out of

754
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: Chronoss Lab. Said it was important and dangerous. He never

755
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: made it. They got to him first. I couldn't quite

756
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: make out what was going on, but it was violent

757
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: and weird. Anyway, your father is dead. I just wanted yeah,

758
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I wanted you to know your your dad died really

759
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: weirdly weird. It couldn't make it all out, but it was.

760
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: It was weird, just so good and uh yeah. So

761
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: he's like, we couldn't get to him in time. Uh.

762
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: But we see in the re enactment that Mark Hamill

763
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: has a couple of suits that he works with who

764
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: were constantly sort of chasing him around in the movie.

765
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: We find up in the end that they're working with

766
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: the Zoo Annoys the whole time. But the suits are

767
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: on the scene with him and they go down to

768
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: where Togawa was, but there's no more sign of the

769
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: Fishhead monster. Now he's just a slimy human skeleton. Meanwhile,

770
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Sean out there has been watching through the window at

771
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: this conversation miss Key is having with Reid, and he

772
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: has been ignoring the aikido demonstration, which immediately turns into

773
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: him being made a fool of in front of the

774
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: whole class. They're like, you know, hey, show, let's do

775
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: that throw we just demonstrated, And he doesn't know what's

776
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: going on, so he gets thrown and thrown and uh,

777
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: and I should not his sparring partners wearing a shirt

778
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: that says kill them All, which I don't think is

779
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: a reference to the first Metallica album. So I don't

780
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: know what it is. You could just be booleg right,

781
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh I guess so, yeah, it's not the logo, but

782
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: it does say that, so make your own metallic. Sure.

783
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: After all this, the aikido instructor sits down with Sean

784
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: and and she's like, Sean, you have to learn to

785
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: control your temper or nothing I teach you is ever

786
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: going to help you out there. But you know, she's

787
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: not thinking of the tingency in which he receives some

788
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: alien power armor, right, that is that is activated by

789
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: his temper exactly, so in that case, like she's giving

790
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: him exactly the wrong advice. You should you should learn

791
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: nothing in class, and you should just get mad. But

792
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: now it's time to check in with the bad guys, right,

793
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: So we get our first David Gale. Seeing David Gale

794
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: is in his office, in his corporate office, wearing a

795
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: tie in a suit. He's some kind of business big

796
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: wig sitting at a desk, and Michael Berriman shows up

797
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: with the suitcase and and of course David Gale is

798
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: very pleased. What's his character's name again, Balcus or something? Yes, yes,

799
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: Balcus is very pleased. He says it's a good thing,

800
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: you got it because and then he's like toying with him.

801
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: He walks around the back of Barryman. He's like touching

802
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: his head. He goes, I wouldn't want a hair on

803
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: your lovely head. Hurt. But oh, there's a problem because

804
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: he opens up the case and remember how to Gawa

805
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: switch the guiver out? Well, of course there is no

806
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: guiver in the case. Instead, it's a toaster and he

807
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: he starts to have a magnificent freak out. He says,

808
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: what is this some sort of masochistic joke? And he

809
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: goes into a full on telekinetic rage. He grows a

810
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: third eye out of his forehead and makes Michael Berryman

811
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: start punching himself. Yeah, we have like slapping himself in

812
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: the face and kind of like clawing at his own face.

813
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful performance by Berryman. And then and then

814
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: Bacha says, uh, just snarling at him. At this point,

815
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: he's like, I'll have you slap yourself into oblivion if

816
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: you don't find it. So, yeah, I guess you assume

817
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: that this is his standard assassination method, is psychically making

818
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: people punch themselves to death or at least zoe annoids.

819
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean he is the Zoa Lord, right right, Yeah,

820
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: maybe it only works on zoe anoids, that's true, not

821
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: that it matters. So in the meantime, Sean drives down

822
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: to where miss Key's father was killed and uh, he's

823
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: he's riding on a scooter and he happens to stumble

824
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: across the actual guy for in its hiding place, and

825
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: he takes it with him, and we we get a

826
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: whole scene at the at the crime scene with Miskey

827
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: there and Max Ree that's Mark Hamill there and they're

828
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: talking about it, and Mark Hamill's suit bosses they're like

829
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: still chasing Ninja turtles and he's like, I'm on my

830
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: own time. So he's going around flashing his CIA credentials.

831
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: But apparently this is just a private investigation he's taken

832
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: up for, you know, out of the goodness of his heart. Yeah,

833
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound dangerous at all. And then later Mark

834
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Hamill takes mis Key home and explains to her that

835
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 1: her father contacted him because he wanted to pass something off,

836
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: this thing, the Geiver, and he says it's the most

837
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: dangerous technology since the Adam bomb, but he doesn't understand

838
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: what it is, so he's asking her. Uh. She of

839
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: course has no idea what it is either, but she

840
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: hilariously is repeating the words of the scene. Is she's

841
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: there in her house, she's in tears over her father's death.

842
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, what do you know about the Giver

843
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: And she's like the guyver and he's right, you know that, yes,

844
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: the diver um And she says, like he was a scientist,

845
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: how could he get involved with something like that? Anyway,

846
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: Sean comes to the door to to check on mis

847
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Key and he sees Mark Hamill in her apartment. I

848
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: don't know what he like sees him in a mirror

849
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: through the door. He gets very upset. I think the

850
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: implication is he thinks that, like, I don't know that

851
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: miss Key and Mark Hamill are like dating now or something,

852
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make any sense because like he saw

853
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: them at the crime scene. It's clear he's some sort

854
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: of official. Yeah, this is actually one of them. I

855
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: think this is the only line in the film that

856
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: that made me laugh. This is because after after he

857
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: sees Max Reid in the mirror, storms off, Max Reid

858
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: walks back up and says, that's a lousy place for

859
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: a mirror, And I did laugh at that. I was like, Okay,

860
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: that's pretty good line. That's pretty good, like so good

861
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: that I have. I have a hard time believing it

862
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: was originally in the script. Yeah. Yeah. But then we

863
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: get to a pivotal scene because on the way home,

864
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: remember Seawan's he's still got the he's still got the

865
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: Giver in his backpack, and his scooter breaks down in

866
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: a in a dark alleyway full of full of steam

867
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: and trash and graffiti, and while he's trying to fix it,

868
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I guess he has jumped by a gang of bozos

869
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: and yellow bandanas. I think they're supposed to be like

870
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: a dangerous criminal gang, but they're also like all the

871
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: bad guys in this movie, kind of blood bloop Trombone.

872
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: Goober's like just acting silly. Yes, some of them look

873
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: like they're in their mid forties and uh, and you know,

874
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: it's probably the case where the gang consists of whoever

875
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: was in the stunt crew. Yes, yeah, but oh another

876
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: guy in the gang is the guy that Sean was

877
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: sparring with a Nikedo class earlier. Also anyway, the gang

878
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: starts beating him up and as they're attacking him, oops,

879
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: Shawan accidentally face fuses with the Guiver and then we

880
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: get a transformation sequence. Strap yourself in for these morphin sequences.

881
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: It is wet meat and electricity, and the gang guys

882
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: are saying, oh God, get back, it's gross. He's sick

883
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: or something. Rob How would you describe this transformation and

884
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: what he looks like in the Giver suit? Oh, I

885
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: mean it's it's pretty great. It's like, um, the suit

886
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: itself is kind of like like somebody's been turned inside out.

887
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like there's certainly a feeling of like of of

888
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: an actual exoskeleton and you see the viscera and their

889
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: steam coming out of the sides of the mast. There's

890
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: a horn. Uh. They're also the ball and extra balls

891
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: of the unit are there, and they're kind of like

892
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: squirming around. Uh. It's it's a really cool looking suit.

893
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: It has like elbow blades that pop out, um, but

894
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: it does. It is also, of course very much a

895
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: rubber monster suit and uh and and has those limitations

896
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: in place. But yeah, it's very much the Cronenberg Ee

897
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: Power Rangers costume that we teased at the beginning. I'll

898
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: also point out that one thing, the thing that yucked

899
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: me out the most about the suit activating and like

900
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: the tendrils going around him and like growing over him,

901
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: is that he's not nude underneath it. I think I

902
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: would have felt better if he was nude. But there's

903
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: like a layer of full clothing between him and the

904
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: new flesh. Like if you're gonna forge with the new flesh,

905
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want like a sweaty T shirt

906
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: there in between, Like just let the flesh touch the flesh, right, Yeah, yeah,

907
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: may maye the old T shirt die? Yeah yeah, Your

908
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: diuiver suit's just gonna get infected. This way, but so yeah,

909
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of insectoid power ranger armor, that hinging heroes

910
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: sort of thing, but with with this this kitaness quality

911
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: and then these gross wet muscles underneath the spitting out

912
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: the steam and this gas mask thing on the face

913
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: with the big eyes and in guiver form. Of course,

914
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: he's he's a monster like. He easily beats up the gang,

915
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: he breaks their bones and at one point he almost

916
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: stabs the dude to death. Um. And then we get

917
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: another slash wipe. But I don't think I've been mentioning

918
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: them every time, but there's slash wipes a plenty. So

919
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: this movie is just like one corner to the other

920
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: loves it. Uh. And we get another scene with Michael

921
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: Berryman going back to David Gale to get yelled at

922
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: and berated again. Uh. And this is the scene where

923
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: they decide, oh, well, you've got to go kidnapped to

924
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Gawa's daughter, so let's let's kidnap miskey. Obviously, but I

925
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: wanted to point out in this scene, David Gale is

926
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: sitting down I think, to eat, like he's making human

927
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: breakfast or something. But he gets up to walk around

928
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: and he has a napkin dangling out of his soup jacket.

929
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: And then also there like he's using the toaster that

930
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: was brought earlier to make himself toast, which I think

931
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: is supposed to be funny, but like toast pops up

932
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: out of it and it's burned and on fire. So

933
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: I think the joke is that that that David Gale's

934
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: character does not understand how human cuisine works. Yeah, this

935
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: this this moment, I guess I was supposed to laugh,

936
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: but instead I groaned. But then I think I laughed anyway.

937
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: Uh so that the toaster work for me. I guess

938
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: it is a good Gayl's performance is so good here.

939
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: And then when we come back to Sean, we get

940
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: a version of the classic werewolf hangover seen you know

941
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: what scene I'm talking about. It's in a werewolf movie

942
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: or something of that sort of. The protagonist wakes up,

943
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: sometimes in their own beds, sometimes in a strange place,

944
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: but in their regular body, and they feel around on

945
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: their torso with their hands and gaze intently into the mirror,

946
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: wipe their hair back with a size if to check

947
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: it is that really me? What a relief? And then

948
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: they wonder aloud if it was all just a bad dream,

949
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: or maybe they don't remember anything at all except a

950
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: strange feeling that something terrible happened last night. But of course,

951
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: here our protagonist did not become a wild kinnido morph

952
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: but a weird armored insect fighter with elbow knives. Yeah,

953
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: he may not remember it, but that that geiver costume

954
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: crawled into series of holes in the back of his neck.

955
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Yes. When it goes away, it like

956
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: it sucks into these like fang holes at at the

957
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: base of his skull. And then in the following scene,

958
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: there was some dialogue that was so bewildering to me

959
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: I had to just include it verbatim and recreate it here.

960
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: So we get to a scene with Mark Hamill, you

961
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: know the c I a guy Read. He's arguing with

962
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: the two suits. Uh. I think he was like, y'all

963
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: need to look into the Chronos Corporation. And they come

964
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: back to him and they're like, we checked it out,

965
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: Chronos Corporations, Fine, n b D. Nothing to see here,

966
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: and uh, And so Read is they're walking on the

967
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: sidewalk and Read says to them one thing, what the

968
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: hell is a scientist doing? In the middle of the night,

969
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: walking down a concrete riverbed in his lab coat, fishing,

970
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: and then the suit says back to him, who knows

971
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: some people will do anything to land a fish, even

972
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: tell a fish story. Then Read says, yeah, well it

973
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: ain't fish. I sme, l it's a rat. It's so good.

974
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: That's that's some David Namnett stuff right there. What is

975
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: a fish story a fish? I guess it's like the

976
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: it's an exaggeration, right, like a big fish story like this, Okay,

977
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: And then something smells fishy, but also sometimes you smell

978
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: a rat. It's it's all, it's all. It's perfectly constructed,

979
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: tight tight, yeah, okay. Well this all leads up to

980
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: this big middle section of the movie that is a

981
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: long extended fight sequence, and how we get there is

982
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: uh is that the bad guys, the Zoonoids, go to

983
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: miss Key's apartment to try to kidnap her, but just

984
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: in time, um Sean and Max meet up there and

985
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: they rescue her and the three of them run off

986
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: into a warehouse where they are pursued by the Zoonoids,

987
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: and along the way they stumble across this film set,

988
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: which which is where Jimmy Walker's character accidentally he he

989
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: runs into a woman. She starts screaming, but then there's

990
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: like a director saying cut and it turns out she's

991
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: an actress shooting on location in this alleyway and they're

992
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be a monster there, but it was a

993
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: different monster that was supposed to be there, and yuck, yucks. Yeah,

994
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: absolutely essential, it's in the movie. But they move on

995
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: to the warehouse and then there's just like a long,

996
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: long fight sequence. I gotta be honest, in this scene,

997
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: like I loved the reveal of all the monsters, but

998
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: the the sort of like running around in the warehouse

999
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: and the fighting kind of went on a long time.

1000
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: For me, it did. Yeah, there's a lot of meat

1001
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: slapping in this uh this sequence, there are some good

1002
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: moments of of goo and slicing. But also like the

1003
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: more you see these monsters, you know, even though the

1004
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: Guiver costume looks amazing, the monsters, the zoonoids look amazing,

1005
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: you know that there are scenes where just by virtue

1006
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: of them being floppy monster costumes, they're gonna you're gonna

1007
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: get a little bit of flop. You're gonna get a

1008
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: little bit of of movement there that betrays the you know,

1009
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: the the underlying synthetic nature of the whole thing. Uh.

1010
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: But if you like a good monster slap test, they

1011
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: they got it here. And I think this may be

1012
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: the fight sequence where we get that really strong clothes line.

1013
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, they're definitely good things about it.

1014
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: I think one thing that made it a little less

1015
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: than it could have been was the doink doink music

1016
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: that just that kind of sucks some of the soul

1017
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: out of it. Oh. But one of the important things

1018
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: in this big warehouse fight sequences that the Michael Berriman

1019
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: monster discovers the secret the weakness of the Giver suit,

1020
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: which is the ball on his forehead and which I

1021
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: think is called the control metal. And they defeat the

1022
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: Giver by ripping out the ball from his forehead. And oops,

1023
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: now our Guiver hero is dead. Yeah, he just deflates

1024
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: and melts. Uh, pretty great, great melting thing. So Miskey

1025
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: is captured by the monsters. Both I think Miskey and

1026
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: and Read are captured by the monsters, and they're brought

1027
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: back to the headquarters of the Chronos Corporation where Fulton

1028
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: bach Balkas for he he looms over Misskey's unconscious body

1029
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: very creepily, and then she wakes up and he launches

1030
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: into an expository monologue. So we find out all kinds

1031
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: of things. So he takes on a walk through what's

1032
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: called the growth corridor, which sounds like a zoning policy

1033
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: buzz phrase. Uh, Robert, how would you describe the growth corridor?

1034
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, your standard cloning, that mad science laboratory with

1035
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: lots of shadowy things and I in tubes that will

1036
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: flanch or jump at the glass if you move too

1037
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: close to them. Yeah, yellow liquid, that kind of thing. Uh. So,

1038
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: David Gale says, these are zoannoids, genetically altered human beings.

1039
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: You see, my dear, A long time ago, when the

1040
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: planet was barren, the aliens descended upon the Earth and

1041
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: created man. And miss Key just says aliens. He goes,

1042
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: that's right. Man was created as the ultimate organic weapon.

1043
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: And these are the next step in the evolutionary process.

1044
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: Warriors developed by the aliens from the human species. In

1045
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: past times, they were known as werewolves, minotaurs, vampires. And

1046
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: you always got to appreciate when a writer tries to

1047
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: co opt all existing Earth history and mythology as actually

1048
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: this other new thing I just made up, so you know, like, yeah, Mermaids,

1049
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: Jack the Ripper, UFO abductions. Actually that was all just

1050
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: Dr robot Nick acting throughout history. Yeah. I remember the

1051
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: second Matrix movie did this right where they're like vampires

1052
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: and where that was. That was that was part of

1053
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: the Matrix. Yeah. I feel like it works better if

1054
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: you pick like one thing you're like, oh, this one

1055
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: unexplained phenomenon from history was actually this new thing I

1056
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: just made up. When you say all of it, I

1057
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: don't know. Well they don't. Don't throw shade on the

1058
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: zoonoid religion here, okay, But anyway, so he goes on

1059
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: and he says, can you imagine these lovely creatures in

1060
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: the White House, in every seat of power in every

1061
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: country around the world. A great part I did laugh at.

1062
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good. Uh, let's see, and then

1063
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: Miskey wants to know what the Giver is, and Gail

1064
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: explains that the Giver is an organic weapon that the

1065
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Aliens created. He basically rehashes the same stuff we already

1066
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: learned in the opening text crawl. He's like, it becomes

1067
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: a protective suit of armor and there's only one of

1068
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: them that's ever been found, but he doesn't know how

1069
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: to activate it, and that's why he needs her help.

1070
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: He says, you saw it work. Tell me how did

1071
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: your friend activate it? Of course she refuses to explain,

1072
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: and then Gail threatens to turn her into a zoo anoid,

1073
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: and we we wander into the laboratory where we meet

1074
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Dr east Jeffrey Combs finally showing up in the in

1075
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: the last reel, and he's when we come in. He's

1076
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: like shoving some weird critter into a disintegration tank as

1077
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: it screams in protest. It's like a scene from the

1078
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: Muppet Show. It's pretty cool and there's more exposition. Dr

1079
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: Easton his colleague explained that the giver, which is now

1080
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: just a ball with some like goop hanging off of it.

1081
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: They say that the control metal is alive and it's growing,

1082
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: and Balkus, of course is overwhelmed with pleasure and fascination

1083
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: and oh and then over on the other end of

1084
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: the room we see that Mark Hamill is now in

1085
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: the tank being turned into his zownnoy. This recalls the

1086
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: tank he's in an empire strikes back and I think

1087
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: David Gale is like, you know, turn tell me how

1088
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: to activate the the Guiver or I will. I will

1089
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: turn him into his ownoid and you too, And she's like,

1090
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you everything. It was like this

1091
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: and then oh the old need of the Cross grabbed

1092
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: the Giver and run so she she outsmarts him. Uh,

1093
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: and then we we get this sequence where she she

1094
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: like grabs the Guiver and she's holding it over that

1095
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: disintegration tank and she's like, I'll do it, I'll drop

1096
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: it in and one of the monsters knocks it out

1097
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: of her hand and into the monster version of jeff

1098
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: Ricomb's mouth. He swallows it and then it erupts from

1099
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: inside him, revealing fully formed Geiver with sewn inside. He says,

1100
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: I came back for you, so we learned, uh to

1101
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: take it all back. Geiver can not only regenerate itself,

1102
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: but regenerate the person it has fused with. So so

1103
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: Shan's okay, yeah, And I don't know about his clothes though,

1104
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: did it because again I would hope that it's that

1105
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: you're just nude under the diver costume, especially in this case.

1106
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: Well he definitely is this. Yeah, spoilers, but uh, Oh

1107
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: you also forgot a crucial part of this whole sequence

1108
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: is when one zoanoid swallows the unit another zoanoid uh

1109
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: thrust their arm down that is going to its throat

1110
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: to try and pull it back out in a moment

1111
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: that it feels like it's pure screaming Matt George. This

1112
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: feels like this is very much something that he would

1113
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: have fought to include. Yeah, I think he's like old still,

1114
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: let me get that and reaching down his throat. Yeah,

1115
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: And then we get the the body burst and then

1116
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: it's meat slap in time again. Right, we get another

1117
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: big fight scene where it's fight fight, fight, Geiver versus zoanoid's.

1118
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: The Geiver beats up a bunch of the zoanoids. He

1119
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: kills the Michael Berryman zoannoid with an elbow, knife, jab

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01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: and eventually by ripping his head open with his hands.

1121
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: So kind of weird that otherwise this feels like a

1122
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: kid's movie because somewhat brutal. And as they're escaping, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: Mark camill, I guess they already ZOANOI did him because

1124
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: he starts transforming into a disgusting giant insect. So you

1125
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: get a whole morphing sequence like American Werewolf in London style,

1126
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: except he's turning into a fleshy slime cricket but with

1127
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: sad Mark Hamil eyes, Like he's got Mark Hamil faced

1128
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: looking up out of the cricket head and he's like,

1129
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, this is a horrifying sequence. I remember

1130
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: catching this part on TV when I was a kid,

1131
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: and this is probably this is the number one reason

1132
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: I didn't show any of this to my son, uh,

1133
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's very Kafka ask It's just Hammil becoming

1134
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: this giant Gregor asked bug. That's it's not only does

1135
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: it have sad eyes, but it's like falling over itself.

1136
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: It's just this loathsome thing that should not be Uh. Yeah,

1137
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: this part was genuinely kind of kind of sad. I

1138
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: was like, why are they doing this? He says like

1139
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: it's too late for me. You've got to stop them.

1140
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: Don't let them get away with this. Uh. And then

1141
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: the Hammil zoonoid just dies. And then you get a

1142
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: final show down between the Geiver and the zoannoid form

1143
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 1: of David Gale, which we haven't seen up to this point.

1144
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: All the other monsters have been transforming, but he had

1145
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: stayed in human form except for revealing the little eye

1146
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: in his forehead, and then now finally he he revealed,

1147
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: Now I reveal my true form, which is a giant

1148
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: insects lizard Windigo. It's like a you know, an insectoid

1149
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: dinosaur with stag antlers. Yeah, and this is a pretty

1150
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: great design. Um. On one hand, it reminds me is

1151
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: some final evolutions of some of the pokemons that my

1152
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: son has been showing me. But also the antlers are

1153
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: kind of reminiscent of some Asian dragon designs. And I

1154
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: was impressed, yeah, with the final showdown effects here, because

1155
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: it's gotta be tough going from mostly all rubber suit

1156
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: combat to suddenly having this giant and I'm I'm guessing

1157
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: puppetry powered monster, but I think it looks really good

1158
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: stomping around in the basement here. Uh. It ultimately a

1159
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: good looking sequence. Oh yeah, agreed, I love this monster. Uh.

1160
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: It is defeated in the end of by an inexplicable

1161
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 1: blast from the Giver's chest, but the Guiver's okay, yeah,

1162
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: this makes no This is one of those like what's

1163
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: going on because the last time we saw the chest

1164
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: glowing and all that was when the zoonoids deactivated him

1165
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: and melted him down and just installed the unit. And

1166
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: now he seems to be doing the exact same thing,

1167
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: exact this time it utterly destroys his opponent and leaves

1168
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: him unscathed. Yeah, and so he but then so the

1169
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: guiver's okay. He goes up to miss Key and he's like, uh,

1170
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: don't be afraid, it's just me, and she says, I

1171
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: know it's you, Sean. Of course, why wouldn't she know?

1172
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: But then the suit disappears, leaving a nude Shawn standing there,

1173
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: and then she kisses him and then fetches him a

1174
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: billowy lab coat. Oh god, Now this this is something

1175
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: that I've read multiple times leading up to us watching this,

1176
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: and that is something from the oh, the always wonderful

1177
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: IMDb parent zone, Um so funny, yeah, which on one

1178
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: level I've grown to greatly depend upon, because if it's

1179
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: actually filled out and has meaningful content in it, which

1180
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: isn't always the case with every film, it can be

1181
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: very useful. Yeah, for for any viewer if you want

1182
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: to know, you know, what sort of content is in

1183
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: the film. It can let us know if there's something

1184
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: in this film that maybe would disqualify it from something

1185
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: we want to cover on the show. But it also

1186
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: has stuff like this where under the like the the

1187
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: the nudity section Adult content section of the parent Zone,

1188
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: it says this is a user submitted thing. Again quote,

1189
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: it's imply the guy is completely naked. Nothing is seen, however,

1190
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: so implied nudity is um. Oh, I I love. I

1191
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: think there should be warnings about all implied nudity. It's

1192
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: like nothing, No, there're non actual naked people in this film,

1193
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: but their nudity is implied and now you're imagining that nudity,

1194
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: so look away. What was the one we were looking

1195
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: at recently that had a note like it said something

1196
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: like a character is threatened with a chainsaw to the crotch.

1197
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: This may be distressing for some viewers. Yeah, that was

1198
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: in the parent comments for Hell Hell Comes to Frogtown.

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so always always insightful but also good for

1200
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: a laugh the IMDb parents. Then I think that's same one.

1201
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's the same one that mentioned a

1202
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: character who who is yelling something about Core's brand beer. Yeah. Yeah.

1203
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like somebody mentioned a beer in this film,

1204
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: just so you know. Um, but anyway, but back to

1205
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: the guy. At this point, all of the the villains

1206
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: are defeated, right, all the zoe Annoids have been have

1207
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: been killed, and in the world is safe. Yeah, but

1208
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: then you've got to have a stinger. So the very

1209
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: last thing you get is our our heroes walk away,

1210
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: well not Mark Hambill, but our other two heroes walk away.

1211
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: And then Jimmy Walker, having survived the Guiver showdown, still

1212
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: in full zoe Annoid form, he just appears with one

1213
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: of the other the c I a suit guys and

1214
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: says his catchphrase from TV. He says, Dino might and

1215
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah. The suit guys like, I've got

1216
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: a job for you, and he's like, that will be

1217
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: Dinom setting up a sequel. Uh. And there is a

1218
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: sequel which I looked at and watched part of. I

1219
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: don't think it. This movie actually flows directly into that. Um.

1220
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: It seems to be some sort of a plot about

1221
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: more zoe Annoids and something in a cave and uh

1222
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not mistaken, screaming mad. George doesn't like officially

1223
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: doing anything and do anything on that film, and Stephen

1224
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: Steve Wang is the is the primary director on that one.

1225
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: They look like the monster suits are pretty good in

1226
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,520
Speaker 1: it as well. It looks like it has some fun monsters.

1227
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: But I was I did not feel like I needed

1228
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 1: to go any further. So if you were out there

1229
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: listening to this, if you're a big fan of the

1230
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: The Diver sequel, do right in and let us know

1231
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: what what we're missing out on. UM. Likewise, if you

1232
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: have familiarity with the the anime adaptations or the original manga,

1233
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: I would I'd love to hear how this film stacks

1234
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: up to all of that. Oh, but just to get

1235
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: back to this film. Yeah, so we watched this on

1236
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: a Russian DVD that we rented from Video Drome. UM,

1237
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: it's still played for me on an Xbox just fine.

1238
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: That's not always the case with some sort of a

1239
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: foreign disk, but it does look like. There is a

1240
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: nice Blu Ray Plus DVD special edition that came out

1241
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: from Arrow Video and UM at first glance, I thought

1242
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: it was like a Region two and you wouldn't be

1243
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: able to play it here anyway. But I see reviews

1244
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: for this edition saying that it's region free. So it

1245
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. Looks like it has some special features,

1246
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: so maybe that's worth picking up. And this is also

1247
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: the sort of film that you can watch by maybe

1248
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: streaming it here and there. I don't know. Stuff pops

1249
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: in and out on streaming availability, and if you have

1250
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: a time machine you can go back and watch this

1251
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: on Monster Vision. We were talking. I was talking with

1252
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: Seth before we came in here, and he's like, I

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Speaker 1: think I've seen this before and there was some sort

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Speaker 1: of a host talking about it. Maybe it was a

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Speaker 1: al Vira, maybe it was Joe Bob, but yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looks like it was definitely Joe Bob because this was

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Speaker 1: featured on Monster Vision. Okay, all right, that's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode of Weird House Cinema, but we will be

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Speaker 1: like this one. Huge thanks as always to our excellent

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Speaker 1: audio producer Seth Nicholas Johnson. If you would like to

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