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Speaker 1: a good job on the controls, especially this week. It's
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. We're gonna have It's a quick turnaround
Speaker 1: for us to so we got some great guess you
Speaker 1: got my my buddy Vick Carucci from the seven one
Speaker 1: six Buffalo Horses and then later we're gonna dive down
Speaker 1: to Kentucky and tuck some offensive football with our quarterback. Jet.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right on that and Jets Bills the second
Speaker 1: of two matchups. The Jets are entering the third quarter
Speaker 1: of the NFL season. It's official, we're past the midway
Speaker 1: point of the NFL season. It's flying by the Jets
Speaker 1: so far three and five. It could be a very
Speaker 1: different record, but that's what it is. In the two
Speaker 1: games where the Jets have played both teams that represented
Speaker 1: each conference in the Super Bowl in they've lost by
Speaker 1: a touchdown and they lost by five points. So what
Speaker 1: has been what is in cur orged you from these
Speaker 1: two games that show the fans, they show you, hey,
Speaker 1: this team, we're setting ourselves up right. Well, no moral victories.
Speaker 1: I think Josh McCown said it right in the postgame
Speaker 1: news conference. Frustrating. Frustrating was it was, you know, you
Speaker 1: go out there and battle, battle the elements, um and
Speaker 1: uh movie football well at times and getting the end
Speaker 1: zone and and uh, you know, just figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: what the heck we're doing in the second half. It's
Speaker 1: not not allowing us to play the same way. Frustrating yes,
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't say he's discouraged because the Jets are
Speaker 1: doing a lot of good things offensively the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: I started with the bang John Morton's got these guys
Speaker 1: going down the field, scoring on opening possessions. Um so
Speaker 1: in the Jets are taking leads defensively. They won in
Speaker 1: the turnover differential department, which I thought against Atlanta that
Speaker 1: would lead to a victory, but unfortunately there were sometimes
Speaker 1: when the Jets did not capitalize with points all at all.
Speaker 1: They're playing good football, you see balance offensively. A McCown
Speaker 1: is third NINFL in terms of completion percentage. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Jets are turning people over defensively. They've had problems with
Speaker 1: that in the past and that hasn't been an issue
Speaker 1: this year. It's just finding that way to finish. I
Speaker 1: know people at home are like, oh, sticky hearing that,
Speaker 1: and the players are sick about it too, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to pinpoint and say this area. This area
Speaker 1: is that Germaine Curse has become a kind of a
Speaker 1: spokesman in that locker room, and he said the margin
Speaker 1: mirrors is small because you know, we're not that far off.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just a few mistakes here, a
Speaker 1: few mistakes there. But when I mean the margin of
Speaker 1: error is still huge is because it's that hard to
Speaker 1: close that off. It takes a lot. It takes a
Speaker 1: lot to do things right longer than the other opponent.
Speaker 1: Um though it might not be far off, but it's
Speaker 1: a tough thing to do consistently. You know, you really
Speaker 1: want to get that taste out of your mouth. And
Speaker 1: when you're losing greens, I don't think it's a bad
Speaker 1: thing that you got a short week. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing that you have a short
Speaker 1: week and you got a home game. And that's a fact.
Speaker 1: And because you mentioned the color rush, Jets are back
Speaker 1: in green this year for the color rush, the bills
Speaker 1: will be in white if they have the white face masks.
Speaker 1: He I'm gonna be a little jelly. You're gonna be mad,
Speaker 1: a little jealous because we saw the white face mask
Speaker 1: weeks four. They're fresh, all right. I'm trying to start
Speaker 1: a petition with an organization that the white face man
Speaker 1: become the tradition, the traditional look. That's the deal. The
Speaker 1: Jets white face mask Alright podcast, Dieselert before we dive
Speaker 1: in here with Vic afterwards. Be sure to stay tune
Speaker 1: because he and I are gonna give our ex factors
Speaker 1: for this Thursday's matchup. Alright, let's bring in my good buddy,
Speaker 1: Vick Garucci from a Buffalo and News. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about free agency right off the bat, because Kimberly
Speaker 1: Martin worked at Newsday. She went to the Buffalo News
Speaker 1: and worked next to you as a colleague for what
Speaker 1: four or five weeks? And then I follow you on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Vic and Vic Carucci and I'm seeing you in a
Speaker 1: goodbye party. And now Kimberly Martins to the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Six weeks was all we got
Speaker 1: to have her on the staff. Uh, what a great addition.
Speaker 1: She she was in that short amount of time, and
Speaker 1: very sad and disappointed that she didn't stay with us.
Speaker 1: I understood though her reasons. She Uh, the Washington Post
Speaker 1: had been a dream opportunity that she said, you know,
Speaker 1: she didn't see coming along at this stage. Um, but
Speaker 1: it did, and uh, and I get it. She put
Speaker 1: a lot of thought into uh, you know, before leaving.
Speaker 1: She said she spent a couple of weeks. But hey,
Speaker 1: I said, even though you were here for five minutes.
Speaker 1: I still want to have a going away party for you,
Speaker 1: and we did there. You are taking care of everybody there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kimberly has missed up here, and I know she's gonna
Speaker 1: do a great job at the Washington Post. And you
Speaker 1: guys continue to crush it there at the Buffalo News.
Speaker 1: So vic are the Buffalo Bills a playoff contender? I
Speaker 1: think they are, Eric, I mean, I think Thursday night
Speaker 1: could provide even more of a solidification of that feeling,
Speaker 1: because I think if if they were to come out
Speaker 1: of that game with a win, uh and and sweep
Speaker 1: that divisional series and have another conference and division victory,
Speaker 1: uh they find themselves in a position where you'd really
Speaker 1: really have to have some very bad things happen to
Speaker 1: you to fall out of it. But we all know
Speaker 1: anything can happen in the NFL. But my feeling at
Speaker 1: five and two and the way they're winning games with
Speaker 1: a defense that has really done an unbelievable job of
Speaker 1: taking the ball way. They've got a seventeen takeaways, which
Speaker 1: is just remarkable, the way they've been doing that against opponents,
Speaker 1: and uh and and no, I don't know, you know, no,
Speaker 1: other defense is doing it at the pace they are
Speaker 1: that they have the longest active streak of at least
Speaker 1: three takeaways a game with four games in a row um,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the part Eric that tells me
Speaker 1: what they're doing is sustainable, even though they don't have
Speaker 1: by any stretch of a dominating offense or or a
Speaker 1: quarterback who's playing at the at the highest level of
Speaker 1: great production. Tyrod Taylor got a hundred and sixties some
Speaker 1: yards passing against Oakland Sunday, but that didn't matter. Vic,
Speaker 1: I got a two parter for you. We spoke to
Speaker 1: you before Week one and you said Lashawn McCoy was
Speaker 1: the key not only to the Bill's offense, but the
Speaker 1: key to the season. What has Lashawn McCoy had been
Speaker 1: doing in the first eight weeks i'll say seven since
Speaker 1: the Jets saw Buffalo in Week one, and to what's
Speaker 1: changed for this Bill's team since these two teams faced
Speaker 1: each other? Yeah, well, I I truly believed that was
Speaker 1: the case. And you saw what he did against the Jets,
Speaker 1: a hundred and ten rushing yards in that season opening victory.
Speaker 1: That that I thought set the tone for what this
Speaker 1: offense is. It's still a run based offense. Uh. But
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, Uh, you know, the following week worst game
Speaker 1: of his career against Carolina. But it's been a running
Speaker 1: game that needed to sort of find itself again since
Speaker 1: that Jets game. And that happened weeks seven against Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay and he had in the in the ninety yard range.
Speaker 1: But but definitely was you know, as a group, they
Speaker 1: were running the ball much better. And they hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty one yards against Oakland coming out a breakaway touchdown
Speaker 1: run the end of the game. They were getting those
Speaker 1: those consistent plays in the running game. I think when
Speaker 1: you have a formula that is driven by defense and
Speaker 1: that this defense is playing as well as it is.
Speaker 1: And again, when I last spoke to you guys, I
Speaker 1: had no idea that they would, you know, be doing
Speaker 1: this takeaway thing to the degree that they're doing. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody could predict that. But it's not happening
Speaker 1: by accident, guys. They are absolutely training to do this.
Speaker 1: It's emphasized in every meeting, every practice, and it shows
Speaker 1: up on the field. I think when you've got that
Speaker 1: going for you, the running game becomes very vital because
Speaker 1: they complement each other as you know, Uh, and then
Speaker 1: you're passing game. Uh should I mean, I'm sure they
Speaker 1: love it to be explosive, but right now it's a
Speaker 1: it's a safe passing game. Charles Clay. It's early in
Speaker 1: the week. You anticipate him trying to give it a
Speaker 1: goal or the Bills probably take a conservative approach with him, think, um,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna do everything they can to see
Speaker 1: if he can be ready because of you know how
Speaker 1: vital this game is. And uh, he was in uniform
Speaker 1: but not you know, not practicing the other day. But
Speaker 1: then you know, there's no mistaking what he means to
Speaker 1: a passing game that otherwise lacks a lot when he's
Speaker 1: not in there. Yeah, you're right. The Jets are really
Speaker 1: excited about their rookie safeties and Jamal Adams and Marcus
Speaker 1: may and both have played very well in the early going.
Speaker 1: But the Bills have to be a static about their
Speaker 1: Safety's a pair of veterans that they picked up in
Speaker 1: the offseason. What can you tell us about that pair? Well,
Speaker 1: they they've been tremendous. Micah Hyde number one, he's been
Speaker 1: the really the catalyst of the entire defense and he's led.
Speaker 1: You know, he leads that whole defense and especially not
Speaker 1: just the secondary. I mean he puts everybody in the
Speaker 1: right position. He's so smart, he's so such a leader
Speaker 1: and uh and so they are. They have really built
Speaker 1: the defense from the back forward. Uh. Jordan Poyer has
Speaker 1: been a tremendous contributor and they missed him. I'm sure
Speaker 1: it didn't look like it in the game. Uh, they
Speaker 1: had good I mean Trey Elston stepped in and did well.
Speaker 1: He even got an interception. But Jordan Poyer is is,
Speaker 1: you know, a tremendous safety and I think a guy that,
Speaker 1: uh that that will continue to play well once he's healthy. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long he's gonna be out with
Speaker 1: this knee injury. Uh, it might be a push to
Speaker 1: see if he could be ready with a short turnaround
Speaker 1: after missing Sunday's game. And um, but Tradavious White has
Speaker 1: been tremendous at cornerback, the rookie, uh, shadowing Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: as he did, and really helping the effort to force
Speaker 1: the Raiders into a lot of check down Derek Carr
Speaker 1: throwing a lot of check down passes because the coverage
Speaker 1: was so tight. Uh, they missed d J. Gaines. He
Speaker 1: was out of this Oakland game as well with a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Charisse Wright struggled a little bit there, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get a lot they really the Raiders didn't
Speaker 1: get a lot off of him. But all at all,
Speaker 1: Leonard Johnson another nickel nickel corner that they have, hard
Speaker 1: hitting guy. Uh. All in all, this secondary UH is
Speaker 1: really one of the true strengths of the entire team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Green's I just want to say, hides production is off
Speaker 1: the charts, like interceptions VI. Yeah, yeah, and and and Eric,
Speaker 1: they're not you know, they're not just coming because I
Speaker 1: mean there's a certain amount of good fortune that comes
Speaker 1: we know with turnovers, especially in the in the bunches
Speaker 1: that they've gotten them. But this is, this is this
Speaker 1: has a lot more to do about a guy who
Speaker 1: puts himself in the right position. And you remember him
Speaker 1: from Green Bay. Uh. You know when the Bill signed
Speaker 1: him and Jordan Porter, they signed him on the same
Speaker 1: day as free agents. And these were there two big signings.
Speaker 1: These were the statement signings. These were not big name guys. Uh.
Speaker 1: They did get good contracts, certainly in free agency to
Speaker 1: to to UH as their second contracts in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But Hyde in Green Bay was a versatile player as
Speaker 1: you know he's done. He's played at off corner and safety,
Speaker 1: nickel and special teams and you know he's he's been
Speaker 1: a Swiss Army knife. But for the Bills, he is
Speaker 1: truly a safety. And and they have, as I say they've,
Speaker 1: they've really gained tremendous, tremendous boost defensively from him. If
Speaker 1: you're the Jets, how do you go about attacking this
Speaker 1: Bill's team? I think it has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with number one, not letting Tyrod Taylor, uh keep your
Speaker 1: defense off balance with both his legs and his passing arm,
Speaker 1: because he'll do that. And it's it's about containing him,
Speaker 1: which was something they were unable to really get a
Speaker 1: full handle on um lesson from the first game. Is
Speaker 1: you know, not letting that running game get the better
Speaker 1: of them. They've you know, the running games changed a lot,
Speaker 1: changed up a lot of what they've done. They bring
Speaker 1: in a lot of variation of blocking scheme. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Jets will see that on tape. It's gonna look different.
Speaker 1: As they studied the other games since that that first
Speaker 1: game against the Jets, Uh, and and again I would
Speaker 1: put I would I would try as much as possible
Speaker 1: to forced Tyrode to to win it, you know, win
Speaker 1: the game with his with his arm. But truth be
Speaker 1: told us, you're you're not They're gonna get you at
Speaker 1: some point, even if even if you get close to
Speaker 1: the to the goal line. Uh, they're so opportunistic. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to just not turn it over.
Speaker 1: And that's and again asked the Atlanta Falcons, asked the
Speaker 1: Bengals even though they won, asked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: and now asked the Raiders. You know you're looking at
Speaker 1: what thirteen turnovers in in four games? Styles make flights
Speaker 1: vic in um. That first game was a close contest
Speaker 1: all the way to that up until the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: even though the Bills largely had the better of the
Speaker 1: play early in that ball game. But the Jet Jets
Speaker 1: between Week three and now, they have not faced a
Speaker 1: deficit at halftime. They've had four the six contests they've
Speaker 1: actually went into the third quarter with the lead, and
Speaker 1: another two they've been tied. So do you think we'll
Speaker 1: have another nail biter here at MetLife Stadium on this
Speaker 1: short week Thursday? Night, Keller Rush, I would I would
Speaker 1: have a hard time thinking that it wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: tight game because Thursday night football, you know, unfortunately brings
Speaker 1: out the worst, it can bring out the best. And
Speaker 1: obviously last week we saw, you know, the Ravens score
Speaker 1: forty points, so they're not going to tell you it
Speaker 1: brought out the worst than them, even though they had
Speaker 1: to finish it without their starting quarterback. So you know,
Speaker 1: you can have one of those games where one team
Speaker 1: is just so you know, whatever the word is, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna say thoroughly unprepared, but but not
Speaker 1: prepared enough and you're cramming things in so much. I'll
Speaker 1: say this for the Bills, and I think this is
Speaker 1: where they could have a distinct advantage over the Jets.
Speaker 1: The Jets roster is pretty young, right, uh, They're they've
Speaker 1: definitely tried to build their team on youth and speed
Speaker 1: and athleticism and and they're gonna continue. The Bills, on
Speaker 1: the other hand, have a lot of players who have
Speaker 1: been brought in from somewhere else. You know that we're
Speaker 1: brought in as uh as street free agent signings, and
Speaker 1: they've built a lot of their roster or or you know,
Speaker 1: full fledged on restricted free agents like I mentioned Micah
Speaker 1: Hyde and Uh and Jordan's ployer. But by and large
Speaker 1: you know their defensive line. I mean they you know,
Speaker 1: they shipped off Marcel Darius to Jacksonville and they've been
Speaker 1: pleased to go with the line. He has a guy
Speaker 1: like Cedric Thornton Uh as part of a rotation with
Speaker 1: Jerald Worthy. I mean, these are these aren't household names guys,
Speaker 1: you know that, and and they're they're using that rotation
Speaker 1: to the fullest uh And And it's a lot of
Speaker 1: other players who Jordan Matthews at receiver, Guys who just
Speaker 1: feel like they they are um, you know, players who
Speaker 1: have to just kind of proved themselves because the teams
Speaker 1: that they previously played for didn't want them. That's the
Speaker 1: legendary Vic Gruci covering the bills up there in the
Speaker 1: seven one six, the New York Times best selling author.
Speaker 1: You also can listen to him on Serious Exam on
Speaker 1: a radio. He's got a Saturday morning show with Jets
Speaker 1: Whispers of course at Danny Leverau. Vic great catching off
Speaker 1: with you look forward to seeing that there is that
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Eric and take care of you guys.
Speaker 1: We'll see you. E A. Vicky as great as always,
Speaker 1: tremendous insight, the tremendous hols of the Buffalo Bill's team.
Speaker 1: He thinks they're legit. The Jets one another shot at
Speaker 1: a team that one plays in the same division. And
Speaker 1: two they could have won that game in Week one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they certainly could have. Yeah, they were right there in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So it was kind of familiar. Uh,
Speaker 1: two Jets fans, is that in that ball game late
Speaker 1: weren't able to finish. Um, you're asking me about the
Speaker 1: next Factor. I'm glad you remember. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it up, but not take it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, how about Darren Lee? I think why
Speaker 1: do I think he could be an next factor? Because
Speaker 1: McCoy is fantastic. He is a dynamic player. The Jets
Speaker 1: have to be sound against the run, and maybe at
Speaker 1: times they'll have to do a little shadow win of
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor because he always got to watch Tyrod one
Speaker 1: he breaks that pocket. I was gonna say, Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: slash whoever guard Shady McCoy out of the back room,
Speaker 1: because Shady Lee the team and receptions, receiving yards, and
Speaker 1: obviously he's their top rusher. Whoever guards him has a
Speaker 1: tough task this weekend. And whether it's two players one player,
Speaker 1: they switch. We've seen the Jets have three safety looks
Speaker 1: for safety looks, so I'm very curious as two coaches
Speaker 1: game plan for Lashawn McCoy. But because you touched on
Speaker 1: Darren Ly and he's included in that category, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go something else. I'm gonna go with the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Because Vic Carucci talked about this, I thought this was
Speaker 1: extremely interesting. You don't necessarily want to get sacks against
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, you just want to contain him. And I
Speaker 1: think that if the Jets defensive ends in particular can
Speaker 1: kind of forced Hiro out to stay in the pocket,
Speaker 1: I think that's when Tyrod maybe gets a little shaken
Speaker 1: up mentally, and then maybe that's when he throws. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna get shaken up mentally, but
Speaker 1: what I do like, we're coming at this because you
Speaker 1: gotta get in his passing lane. He's not the tallest player,
Speaker 1: as we know, Maddie Ryan, a guy six five or so.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Teller is a little over six ft, but a
Speaker 1: guy who can come into play for the Jets this week.
Speaker 1: How about Conny Ely getting in the passing lanes and
Speaker 1: then on the other side of the ball, And you
Speaker 1: could say this each and every week, it's to nine.
Speaker 1: I think it's Paul. I think this offense always looks
Speaker 1: different when he's going and he's got a little bit
Speaker 1: of room because he brings juice, you know, and you
Speaker 1: can see it, and you can see his teammates feed
Speaker 1: off of him. I think he's a spark player and
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets can get him going here on Thursday
Speaker 1: night football Offensively, I'm going to s J and we
Speaker 1: talked about it, so I'm just gonna put a little
Speaker 1: two pieces here. Is that a s J. Maybe you
Speaker 1: work the inside to then eventually work the outside. And
Speaker 1: vix saying the Bills run a lot of his own.
Speaker 1: I think that you you utilize your big tight end
Speaker 1: and then maybe that will open up some things on
Speaker 1: the outside. You know who likes tight ends quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: let's pretty in our quarterback chap any. Well, the Jets
Speaker 1: don't have much time to lick their wounds because they'll
Speaker 1: be on the field Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: What do you see from Atlanta? What do you take
Speaker 1: out of that ball game? Because Todd balls. Afterwards, Jed said, listen,
Speaker 1: we have to be the team that starts throwing the
Speaker 1: body blows instead of absorbing them. Well, Erica, I certainly
Speaker 1: believe coach Bowls has a good pulse to his team,
Speaker 1: and um, he understands why they're losing. And when you
Speaker 1: look at a three and five team, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're forcing the opponent to beat them. And that's unfortunate
Speaker 1: because there's some really good plays being made, both offensively
Speaker 1: and defensively. But those plays on a whole are being
Speaker 1: negated because of a handful of losing plays being a turnover,
Speaker 1: a sack, mistackles, miscommunication, whatever it may be. It's just
Speaker 1: a handful, but a handful is enough to make you lose.
Speaker 1: And then fell Chad, what do you think about Robby Anderson?
Speaker 1: His performance kind of got overshadowed because of the loss,
Speaker 1: but yesterday he had his first career a hundred yard
Speaker 1: receiving day. Well, I think his production has increased because
Speaker 1: his route running is getting better. Um, a couple of
Speaker 1: times down the sideline, being able to work on through
Speaker 1: font at the cornerback from the falcons and work the
Speaker 1: technique and be able to work off the press coverage.
Speaker 1: I think most teams think, even though Robbie is fast,
Speaker 1: if they get up in his face and be physical
Speaker 1: because of his stature, that they can win that battle.
Speaker 1: The line excrements, But he's proving that he's quick, he's
Speaker 1: got enough physicality and if you miss on the jam,
Speaker 1: he's going to make you pay. And that's what he's
Speaker 1: been able to do. He's also been able to catch
Speaker 1: intermediate short routes to take shallow crosses, turn those five
Speaker 1: yard games into double digit games. And so he's certainly
Speaker 1: become a weapon for Josh McCown in the passing game.
Speaker 1: What's John Morton doing at the beginning of game so well,
Speaker 1: because that's three consecutive weeks where that that's the score
Speaker 1: on their opening possession. Is he breaking tendencies because you
Speaker 1: see a lot of times like on that Eric Thomlinson touchdown, Wow,
Speaker 1: is he wide open? Shed? And that conversely, what's happening
Speaker 1: later in the games to the offense. I know you
Speaker 1: talked about the negative plays they have to avoid when
Speaker 1: they're in scoring territory. But on a mackerel level, what
Speaker 1: do you think has happened in offensively late well early
Speaker 1: in the game. The Jets have come out extremely focused,
Speaker 1: extremely sharp, starting fast with their mindset, and then coach
Speaker 1: Morton has complimented that with every down is a different look,
Speaker 1: every down has a different personnel and so and they're
Speaker 1: just executing at a high level as the game goes on.
Speaker 1: I think you're finding lows where it's not about the
Speaker 1: play calling, their personnel groups. It's just about the players
Speaker 1: not maintaining that sense of urgency. And yet the defense
Speaker 1: will win plays. But in the defense wins wins plays,
Speaker 1: you want those plays that they win to still be
Speaker 1: one and two yard games. You don't want those plays
Speaker 1: to be uh sacks for loss of ten yards. You
Speaker 1: don't want those plays to be because of penal penalties
Speaker 1: and things like that. So that's what it is. I
Speaker 1: just think it's it's a low and focus and a
Speaker 1: low and attention to detail and a lack of situational
Speaker 1: winnings to maintain positive momentum in your offensive games even
Speaker 1: if you don't scool points. How different does this offense
Speaker 1: look from the last time the Jets played the Bills
Speaker 1: in Week one because back then Jermaine Curse and Jeremy
Speaker 1: Curley were right. They basically set foot in the door
Speaker 1: earlier that week, and then they fell twenty one to
Speaker 1: twelve in that game. And now the Jets are starting
Speaker 1: fast and the offense looks completely different. Even in these
Speaker 1: three losses, I think you've seem solid offensive production. I
Speaker 1: think in that first game, you didn't see solid offensive production.
Speaker 1: You saw lack of continuity. You saw a team that
Speaker 1: did not had not established any rhythm work. So they
Speaker 1: wanted for sure, okay, who are our playmakers? And now
Speaker 1: I think, uh, both the staff and the players feel
Speaker 1: like that they have multiple playmakers. That's the staff are
Speaker 1: doing a good job of putting these guys in positions
Speaker 1: to make the plays, and they're calling on multiple people
Speaker 1: to make those plays. And so you've seen a nice tempo,
Speaker 1: a nice rhythm, and their offensive game plan as well
Speaker 1: as their offensive production. I think the key now is consistency. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's not about spurts and one game
Speaker 1: wonders and one drive wonders. It's about consistent offensive play
Speaker 1: and production, UH that last throughout the game and four
Speaker 1: quarters not just for a quarter here or there. Defensively,
Speaker 1: are you encouraged by what you're seeing out of Mohammad
Speaker 1: Wokerson who seems to be coming on, especially the last
Speaker 1: two games. And also how critical is it gonna be
Speaker 1: for this team moving forward to have a healthy Morris Clayborn.
Speaker 1: He's getting some tests on he went down with a
Speaker 1: leg injury against Atlanta. Hopefully he's back on the field Thursday.
Speaker 1: But you saw Atlanta attacked the outside as soon as
Speaker 1: he went out. They go up top to Julio Jones
Speaker 1: with a fifty three yard strike from Matt Ryan and
Speaker 1: then Mohammed Sanu, who's one of the top slot players
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Um, he went to work
Speaker 1: on the Jets. There is six reception seventy four yards
Speaker 1: as the Jets were juggling in the secondary late Chad
Speaker 1: because Claiborne was out and Buster screen in play, So
Speaker 1: um that might more justin Burris and Darryl Roberts on
Speaker 1: the outside and Robert Nelson made his first appearance in
Speaker 1: the Green and white. Yeah, overall, I thought the play.
Speaker 1: It certainly allowed the Jets to win the game. But
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with injuries and now you're taking Um,
Speaker 1: your corners who were used to playing only in nickel
Speaker 1: situations are only maybe inside and now they're having to
Speaker 1: play on first and second down situation and take more reps.
Speaker 1: It puts more stress on your coverage, and then it
Speaker 1: puts more stress on the coaching staff because they may
Speaker 1: have to alter the game plan just a little and
Speaker 1: start to think about areas of the defense that may
Speaker 1: have a weakness throughout the game that you didn't plan
Speaker 1: on being a weakness or being an issue as you
Speaker 1: game plan through the week. And so it's a juggling act.
Speaker 1: And UH, to only give up twenty five points to
Speaker 1: create a H four field goal opportunities that could have
Speaker 1: easily been touchdown opportunities was a positive for the Jets.
Speaker 1: It's just right now, I don't feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like the issue is the team is not playing complimentary football.
Speaker 1: So um, both sides are playing winning football UH and
Speaker 1: and playing really well and spurred, But to play complimentary
Speaker 1: football is a completely different animal, meaning that UM, when
Speaker 1: the defense needs to step up and make a play,
Speaker 1: they've got to make it when the offense has got
Speaker 1: and when they've got a h steps up and make
Speaker 1: it play, you have to make it. You have to
Speaker 1: be situational aware. So it's it's Uh, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that you don't necessarily have to deal with
Speaker 1: a lot in college or high school, but in the NFL. Uh,
Speaker 1: it makes a world as different. How did the Jets
Speaker 1: go about stopping Lashawn McCoy Because last time these two
Speaker 1: teams played each other, Shady had a hundred ten yards
Speaker 1: on the ground and another forty nine through the air.
Speaker 1: He leads the bills and rushing, receiving yards and receptions.
Speaker 1: So if your coach bowls, how do you go about
Speaker 1: stopping McCoy? Well, this is gonna be a total team effort,
Speaker 1: and I think historically over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: the Jets defense has struggled with McCoy in one on
Speaker 1: one situations, which most of the leaked does, by the way,
Speaker 1: But then they've also struggled with Tyrod Taylor being able
Speaker 1: to get out of the pocket and extend play. And
Speaker 1: that's basically going to be the game right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor does an excellent job of protecting the football,
Speaker 1: not putting his team in bad situations, and being able
Speaker 1: to play to his defense when he has to and
Speaker 1: so that's the game plan. The game plan is to
Speaker 1: make sure that you've got this guy corralled. I would
Speaker 1: imagine you're gonna see a little bit more zone. You
Speaker 1: may see more spy techniques on McCoy in the passing game,
Speaker 1: which then affects your pass rush. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: your pass rush is not to stack the quarterback. Here
Speaker 1: is to contain the quarterback in the pocket. Forced Taylor
Speaker 1: to be a pocket passer, uh, knowing his lack of
Speaker 1: height and that he feels more comfortable being outside. And
Speaker 1: so I would imagine more bracket coverages, own coverages, picks
Speaker 1: up the man, take your shots when you need to
Speaker 1: as a defense, but certainly first and second down production
Speaker 1: is key and making sure that those two guys don't
Speaker 1: make big plays on first and second down. How much
Speaker 1: stress does this Buffalo Bill's team put on other clubs?
Speaker 1: Meaning you always love to say that, hey, and the
Speaker 1: NFL teams don't win games, they let other teams lose games.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the Bills right now, plus
Speaker 1: fourteen in the turnover department. Also defensively not giving up
Speaker 1: a lot of points the plane zone. Derek Carr was
Speaker 1: frustrated Auckland Raiders quarterback because they couldn't get anything over
Speaker 1: their heads of keeping everything in front, they're tackling while
Speaker 1: and they're not turning the ball over offensively. That's that's
Speaker 1: the game plan. And basically, you know, that's if the
Speaker 1: Jets need to look at a team to mimic and
Speaker 1: try to figure out how to do it, that would
Speaker 1: be the team. It would be the Buffalo Bills. UM,
Speaker 1: because that's what they're doing. They're not turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: Their turnover ratio is unbelievable and plus fourteen. Their defenses
Speaker 1: maybe bending at times, but certainly not breaking. And what
Speaker 1: they're challenging the opponent to do is beat us. If
Speaker 1: you're good enough to beat us, and beat us. And
Speaker 1: that's why they're sitting at five and two because they
Speaker 1: have not lost the games they have. Uh, the opponent
Speaker 1: has lost games to the Bills, and that's why they're
Speaker 1: sitting at five and two, light beneath the Patriots, which
Speaker 1: is a great spot to be in. So when I
Speaker 1: look at this game, I see this game as another
Speaker 1: game that you'll see the Jets be in and it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to the fourth quarter. Um. And making
Speaker 1: sure that they're doing things necessary to make winning played.
Speaker 1: And sometimes those winning plays aren't big eye opening plays.
Speaker 1: They're a throwaway to avoid a sack. Um there are
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that you're containing a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the pocket where he doesn't extend to play and turn
Speaker 1: a five yard game into twenty yard game or a
Speaker 1: thirty yard game down the field with his arm. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's plays that may not show up, and it's that
Speaker 1: book per se, but it shows up in the wind.
Speaker 1: Call the quick turnaround for this team now in a
Speaker 1: three game losing streak, good thing, bad thing. And my
Speaker 1: other question here, Parp is how difficult is it to
Speaker 1: sweep a team uh in a year? Well, losing is
Speaker 1: terrible no matter how you look at it. Uh. You
Speaker 1: can always take positives from losing, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you're still losing. And I think probably
Speaker 1: what's most frustrating for fans and players alike is that
Speaker 1: these games are winnable games, and these games are games
Speaker 1: you look back and go, Wow, we're in this. Wow,
Speaker 1: we're making good plays, we're doing good things. We're just
Speaker 1: not putting a full four quarters together, and we're causing
Speaker 1: ourselves to lose these ball games. Teams. I don't feel
Speaker 1: like teams have beaten the Jets. I feel like the
Speaker 1: Jets have lost to these teams. And sometimes that's demoralizing,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know that it can
Speaker 1: be fixed. Well, Chat, you will actually be up here
Speaker 1: uh this week, so we look forward to seeing you
Speaker 1: and uh Thursday night. The color Rush uniforms, buddy, they
Speaker 1: didn't have those back when you played its teams not
Speaker 1: so long ago. But we're onto a new era Colorado
Speaker 1: Beet fans and leaving in the stadium and hopefully being
Speaker 1: yet win. Yeah, great stuff from Chad Pennington. As always,
Speaker 1: football is almost every day year though every year the
Speaker 1: Green's that's been uh for the last three day football
Speaker 1: Jets Bills. This is the tradition. And too green now right?
Speaker 1: Too green? Yep to home. Do you like that color green?
Speaker 1: I think it looks better on television than it does
Speaker 1: in person. How about that? All right, we'll leave it
Speaker 1: at that, but your thoughts, I'll agree with you. So
Speaker 1: it's a little too It's a little too vibrant for
Speaker 1: my taste, But I don't mind if I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: For one, listen when people have it on the street though.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, okay, that's fair, I agree, you know,
Speaker 1: And I like and the face masks are really shiny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. Listen, I love when the fans get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to take a look at the new uniform. We
Speaker 1: see that in college football all the time. Is all
Speaker 1: these teams changing up their uniforms every week. By the way,
Speaker 1: what we're doing Ohio State, great win, but thumbs down
Speaker 1: on the uniforms. But our uniform is one of the
Speaker 1: And I don't say this because I've worked here for
Speaker 1: seventeen years. I thought you just said you weren't trying
Speaker 1: to date yourself. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I've been around for a little bit. So people will
Speaker 1: say allegiances, e A. You gotta do allegiances to the Jets.
Speaker 1: I will say the Jets uniform is classic looking, authentic, traditional.
Speaker 1: I like that. All right, Before we put a ball
Speaker 1: on this Thursday's matchup, what is e A's favorite jersey combination,
Speaker 1: whether it's old new white and green green and white
Speaker 1: hall white, I know the white face masker are going
Speaker 1: to be there. If we're going traditional, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're only a season a lot. We wear the white
Speaker 1: jersey and the green pants and I like that. And
Speaker 1: I really I'm a traditional lists and I know you
Speaker 1: can't do this after a labor day, but the white
Speaker 1: on white, I really like that looks very clean. You
Speaker 1: know what about the vintage jerseys? Solid? Okay, solid, you know,
Speaker 1: just you know B plus plus. Yeah, all right, this
Speaker 1: this Thursday's matchup. Vic thinks it's gonna be a close fight.
Speaker 1: Chad thinks it's gonna be a close fight. What does
Speaker 1: he think? Oh yeah, it definitely is. Know Thursday night games,
Speaker 1: you see lopsided scores when the teams don't know each other.
Speaker 1: If it's a divisional contest, I think very rarely you're
Speaker 1: gonna see the game being one side one way or
Speaker 1: the on one side or another. I think this is
Speaker 1: it's a fasten your seatbelts type of game. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a fourth quarter affair. And these teams know each other,
Speaker 1: they know each other's tendencies, and you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: do what you do well and we'll see what happens. So,
Speaker 1: you know, for the Jets, they gotta take away those
Speaker 1: big guys that we continue to talk about, McCoy and
Speaker 1: Llor but defensively, it seems like much like you're seeing
Speaker 1: from the Jets now is the Jets are being are
Speaker 1: transforming before our eyes. Bills built themselves from the secondary
Speaker 1: then towards the line, and the Jets prenominantly for years
Speaker 1: have been all of the talk about the defensive line.
Speaker 1: You still have stylid guys up there, but now you're
Speaker 1: seeing the Jamal Adams, the Marcus Mays, Morris Clayborne, knock
Speaker 1: on wood, he's back out there Thursday night. He's played
Speaker 1: really well for this team on the island. So the
Speaker 1: Jets secondary, which was a weakness in the past, is
Speaker 1: becoming a strength. So we'll have to check on the
Speaker 1: health obviously of Morris Clayborne and Buster Screen, who did
Speaker 1: not play against the Falcons with a concussion. Furthermore, what
Speaker 1: does the short we do to someone like Mohammed Wilkerson
Speaker 1: who doesn't anticipate to miss any time, but his regiment
Speaker 1: so far in the past couple of weeks has been
Speaker 1: not to practice and then play on game day, So
Speaker 1: we see how that plays out. But before we wrap
Speaker 1: things up here on the Official Jets Podcast game preview,
Speaker 1: outside of Lashawn McCoy, what's one thing the Jets need
Speaker 1: to do that will help their chances to win this game.
Speaker 1: They score twenty four points and don't turn over. They
Speaker 1: went simple, simple equation. If they scored twenty four and
Speaker 1: don't turn it over, they win. Those are two big ifs,
Speaker 1: because this is a very good defense that does not
Speaker 1: give up a lot of points and they've been turning
Speaker 1: people over. But the Jets certainly can win this game.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's gonna be anfantalk affair. That's all.
Speaker 1: We got the Official Jets Podcast game preview Jets Bills
Speaker 1: this Thursday on NFL Network, but if your locals don't worry,
Speaker 1: you get it on CBS two as well. For Eric Allen,
Speaker 1: I'm Ethan Greenberg, SA