WEBVTT - Jets-Bills Game Preview (10/31) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.800 Like gas on the world. You played to win? The 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:18.800 game's a Jet touchdown. Your listening to the Official Jets 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:25.960 podcast Jets three sixty production Jets Nation. What's going on 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.080 Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen here on the Official Jets 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.400 Podcast bringing you the Jets Bills Thursday Night Football Edition 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.879 game preview. You know what, I gotta say something our 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.760 producers Jack Tuman, tremendous job on the open. We haven't 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.400 talked about that or that you mentioned it once. You 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.560 mentioned it once or twice. I think it's me gone. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.680 I like, I do like the open. It's great. I 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.480 hope the fans are joining it as well. And Jack 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.880 tumb in the voice of the open as well. I 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.440 don't know if he wanted the world to know that. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.680 I don't know. He probably doesn't mind. Yeah, if he 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.720 has a problem with it, he can cut it out 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:07.000 of the Official Jets Podcast. Producer Jack Tuman, uh doing 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.679 a good job on the controls, especially this week. It's 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.399 Thursday Night Football. We're gonna have It's a quick turnaround 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.080 for us to so we got some great guess you 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.560 got my my buddy Vick Carucci from the seven one 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:24.679 six Buffalo Horses and then later we're gonna dive down 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.160 to Kentucky and tuck some offensive football with our quarterback. Jet. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.200 You're absolutely right on that and Jets Bills the second 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.360 of two matchups. The Jets are entering the third quarter 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.440 of the NFL season. It's official, we're past the midway 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.480 point of the NFL season. It's flying by the Jets 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.720 so far three and five. It could be a very 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.400 different record, but that's what it is. In the two 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.640 games where the Jets have played both teams that represented 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.720 each conference in the Super Bowl in they've lost by 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.760 a touchdown and they lost by five points. So what 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.040 has been what is in cur orged you from these 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.559 two games that show the fans, they show you, hey, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.240 this team, we're setting ourselves up right. Well, no moral victories. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.440 I think Josh McCown said it right in the postgame 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:17.799 news conference. Frustrating. Frustrating was it was, you know, you 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:23.600 go out there and battle, battle the elements, um and 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.480 uh movie football well at times and getting the end 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.920 zone and and uh, you know, just figure out, you know, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.520 what the heck we're doing in the second half. It's 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.120 not not allowing us to play the same way. Frustrating yes, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.040 but he wouldn't say he's discouraged because the Jets are 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.120 doing a lot of good things offensively the last three weeks. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.080 I started with the bang John Morton's got these guys 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.880 going down the field, scoring on opening possessions. Um so 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:55.160 in the Jets are taking leads defensively. They won in 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.400 the turnover differential department, which I thought against Atlanta that 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.960 would lead to a victory, but unfortunately there were sometimes 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.040 when the Jets did not capitalize with points all at all. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.920 They're playing good football, you see balance offensively. A McCown 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.160 is third NINFL in terms of completion percentage. Uh. The 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.400 Jets are turning people over defensively. They've had problems with 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.880 that in the past and that hasn't been an issue 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.160 this year. It's just finding that way to finish. I 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.160 know people at home are like, oh, sticky hearing that, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.640 and the players are sick about it too, because you know, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.520 it's hard to pinpoint and say this area. This area 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.200 is that Germaine Curse has become a kind of a 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.840 spokesman in that locker room, and he said the margin 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.720 mirrors is small because you know, we're not that far off. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.160 I mean it's it's just a few mistakes here, a 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.920 few mistakes there. But when I mean the margin of 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.960 error is still huge is because it's that hard to 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.360 close that off. It takes a lot. It takes a 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.760 lot to do things right longer than the other opponent. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.200 Um though it might not be far off, but it's 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.720 a tough thing to do consistently. You know, you really 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.600 want to get that taste out of your mouth. And 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.560 when you're losing greens, I don't think it's a bad 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.040 thing that you got a short week. And I don't 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.640 think it's a bad thing that you have a short 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.320 week and you got a home game. And that's a fact. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.840 And because you mentioned the color rush, Jets are back 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.239 in green this year for the color rush, the bills 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.240 will be in white if they have the white face masks. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.040 He I'm gonna be a little jelly. You're gonna be mad, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.680 a little jealous because we saw the white face mask 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.080 weeks four. They're fresh, all right. I'm trying to start 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.200 a petition with an organization that the white face man 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.640 become the tradition, the traditional look. That's the deal. The 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.679 Jets white face mask Alright podcast, Dieselert before we dive 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.160 in here with Vic afterwards. Be sure to stay tune 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.359 because he and I are gonna give our ex factors 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.000 for this Thursday's matchup. Alright, let's bring in my good buddy, 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:58.400 Vick Garucci from a Buffalo and News. I want to 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.640 talk about free agency right off the bat, because Kimberly 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.720 Martin worked at Newsday. She went to the Buffalo News 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.480 and worked next to you as a colleague for what 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.640 four or five weeks? And then I follow you on Twitter, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.400 Vic and Vic Carucci and I'm seeing you in a 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.839 goodbye party. And now Kimberly Martins to the Washington Post. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.480 Is that right? Yeah? Six weeks was all we got 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.080 to have her on the staff. Uh, what a great addition. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.280 She she was in that short amount of time, and 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.920 very sad and disappointed that she didn't stay with us. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.760 I understood though her reasons. She Uh, the Washington Post 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.839 had been a dream opportunity that she said, you know, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.159 she didn't see coming along at this stage. Um, but 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.960 it did, and uh, and I get it. She put 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.120 a lot of thought into uh, you know, before leaving. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.040 She said she spent a couple of weeks. But hey, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.480 I said, even though you were here for five minutes. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.479 I still want to have a going away party for you, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:04.480 and we did there. You are taking care of everybody there. Yeah, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.520 Kimberly has missed up here, and I know she's gonna 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.040 do a great job at the Washington Post. And you 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.920 guys continue to crush it there at the Buffalo News. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.520 So vic are the Buffalo Bills a playoff contender? I 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.719 think they are, Eric, I mean, I think Thursday night 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.120 could provide even more of a solidification of that feeling, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.160 because I think if if they were to come out 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.599 of that game with a win, uh and and sweep 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.799 that divisional series and have another conference and division victory, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.240 uh they find themselves in a position where you'd really 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.919 really have to have some very bad things happen to 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.080 you to fall out of it. But we all know 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.479 anything can happen in the NFL. But my feeling at 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.520 five and two and the way they're winning games with 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:58.560 a defense that has really done an unbelievable job of 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:03.720 taking the ball way. They've got a seventeen takeaways, which 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:08.640 is just remarkable, the way they've been doing that against opponents, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.520 and uh and and no, I don't know, you know, no, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.560 other defense is doing it at the pace they are 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.560 that they have the longest active streak of at least 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.400 three takeaways a game with four games in a row um, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.800 And I think that's the part Eric that tells me 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.600 what they're doing is sustainable, even though they don't have 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.120 by any stretch of a dominating offense or or a 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.640 quarterback who's playing at the at the highest level of 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.280 great production. Tyrod Taylor got a hundred and sixties some 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:48.840 yards passing against Oakland Sunday, but that didn't matter. Vic, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.640 I got a two parter for you. We spoke to 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.960 you before Week one and you said Lashawn McCoy was 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.640 the key not only to the Bill's offense, but the 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.720 key to the season. What has Lashawn McCoy had been 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.440 doing in the first eight weeks i'll say seven since 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.320 the Jets saw Buffalo in Week one, and to what's 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.320 changed for this Bill's team since these two teams faced 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.160 each other? Yeah, well, I I truly believed that was 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.520 the case. And you saw what he did against the Jets, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.880 a hundred and ten rushing yards in that season opening victory. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.240 That that I thought set the tone for what this 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.040 offense is. It's still a run based offense. Uh. But 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.760 Lashawn McCoy, Uh, you know, the following week worst game 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.160 of his career against Carolina. But it's been a running 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.080 game that needed to sort of find itself again since 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.640 that Jets game. And that happened weeks seven against Tampa 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:49.080 Bay and he had in the in the ninety yard range. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.080 But but definitely was you know, as a group, they 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.800 were running the ball much better. And they hundred and 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:59.600 fifty one yards against Oakland coming out a breakaway touchdown 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.640 run the end of the game. They were getting those 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.600 those consistent plays in the running game. I think when 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.720 you have a formula that is driven by defense and 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.040 that this defense is playing as well as it is. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.120 And again, when I last spoke to you guys, I 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.040 had no idea that they would, you know, be doing 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.400 this takeaway thing to the degree that they're doing. I 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.319 don't think anybody could predict that. But it's not happening 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:27.600 by accident, guys. They are absolutely training to do this. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.120 It's emphasized in every meeting, every practice, and it shows 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.120 up on the field. I think when you've got that 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.120 going for you, the running game becomes very vital because 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.880 they complement each other as you know, Uh, and then 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.160 you're passing game. Uh should I mean, I'm sure they 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.960 love it to be explosive, but right now it's a 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.720 it's a safe passing game. Charles Clay. It's early in 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.320 the week. You anticipate him trying to give it a 0:09:54.400 --> 0:10:01.040 goal or the Bills probably take a conservative approach with him, think, um, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.000 you know they're gonna do everything they can to see 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.199 if he can be ready because of you know how 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:11.199 vital this game is. And uh, he was in uniform 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.480 but not you know, not practicing the other day. But 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.120 then you know, there's no mistaking what he means to 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.880 a passing game that otherwise lacks a lot when he's 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.320 not in there. Yeah, you're right. The Jets are really 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:28.560 excited about their rookie safeties and Jamal Adams and Marcus 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.120 may and both have played very well in the early going. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.120 But the Bills have to be a static about their 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.560 Safety's a pair of veterans that they picked up in 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:43.000 the offseason. What can you tell us about that pair? Well, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.680 they they've been tremendous. Micah Hyde number one, he's been 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.240 the really the catalyst of the entire defense and he's led. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.880 You know, he leads that whole defense and especially not 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.280 just the secondary. I mean he puts everybody in the 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.480 right position. He's so smart, he's so such a leader 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.320 and uh and so they are. They have really built 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.520 the defense from the back forward. Uh. Jordan Poyer has 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:15.199 been a tremendous contributor and they missed him. I'm sure 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.000 it didn't look like it in the game. Uh, they 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.480 had good I mean Trey Elston stepped in and did well. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.480 He even got an interception. But Jordan Poyer is is, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.160 you know, a tremendous safety and I think a guy that, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:33.400 uh that that will continue to play well once he's healthy. Um. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:34.839 I don't know how long he's gonna be out with 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.680 this knee injury. Uh, it might be a push to 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.560 see if he could be ready with a short turnaround 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:45.760 after missing Sunday's game. And um, but Tradavious White has 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.040 been tremendous at cornerback, the rookie, uh, shadowing Amari Cooper 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.200 as he did, and really helping the effort to force 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.600 the Raiders into a lot of check down Derek Carr 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.600 throwing a lot of check down passes because the coverage 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.280 was so tight. Uh, they missed d J. Gaines. He 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.960 was out of this Oakland game as well with a 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.520 hamstring injury. Charisse Wright struggled a little bit there, but 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.120 they didn't get a lot they really the Raiders didn't 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.920 get a lot off of him. But all at all, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.440 Leonard Johnson another nickel nickel corner that they have, hard 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:25.560 hitting guy. Uh. All in all, this secondary UH is 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.840 really one of the true strengths of the entire team. Yeah, 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.560 Green's I just want to say, hides production is off 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:40.160 the charts, like interceptions VI. Yeah, yeah, and and and Eric, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.880 they're not you know, they're not just coming because I 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.959 mean there's a certain amount of good fortune that comes 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.959 we know with turnovers, especially in the in the bunches 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.760 that they've gotten them. But this is, this is this 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.080 has a lot more to do about a guy who 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.559 puts himself in the right position. And you remember him 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.920 from Green Bay. Uh. You know when the Bill signed 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.280 him and Jordan Porter, they signed him on the same 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.640 day as free agents. And these were there two big signings. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.520 These were the statement signings. These were not big name guys. Uh. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.520 They did get good contracts, certainly in free agency to 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.959 to to UH as their second contracts in the NFL. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.120 But Hyde in Green Bay was a versatile player as 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.040 you know he's done. He's played at off corner and safety, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.480 nickel and special teams and you know he's he's been 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.680 a Swiss Army knife. But for the Bills, he is 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:33.199 truly a safety. And and they have, as I say they've, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:38.640 they've really gained tremendous, tremendous boost defensively from him. If 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.400 you're the Jets, how do you go about attacking this 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.640 Bill's team? I think it has a lot to do 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.320 with number one, not letting Tyrod Taylor, uh keep your 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.600 defense off balance with both his legs and his passing arm, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.679 because he'll do that. And it's it's about containing him, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.120 which was something they were unable to really get a 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.680 full handle on um lesson from the first game. Is 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.640 you know, not letting that running game get the better 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.839 of them. They've you know, the running games changed a lot, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.640 changed up a lot of what they've done. They bring 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.520 in a lot of variation of blocking scheme. Uh, the 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.280 Jets will see that on tape. It's gonna look different. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.680 As they studied the other games since that that first 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.800 game against the Jets, Uh, and and again I would 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.800 put I would I would try as much as possible 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.400 to forced Tyrode to to win it, you know, win 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:33.040 the game with his with his arm. But truth be 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.440 told us, you're you're not They're gonna get you at 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.960 some point, even if even if you get close to 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.880 the to the goal line. Uh, they're so opportunistic. Um, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.040 you know, you've got to just not turn it over. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.400 And that's and again asked the Atlanta Falcons, asked the 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.280 Bengals even though they won, asked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.600 and now asked the Raiders. You know you're looking at 0:14:55.400 --> 0:15:00.080 what thirteen turnovers in in four games? Styles make flights 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.920 vic in um. That first game was a close contest 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.040 all the way to that up until the fourth quarter, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.360 even though the Bills largely had the better of the 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.760 play early in that ball game. But the Jet Jets 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:18.520 between Week three and now, they have not faced a 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.560 deficit at halftime. They've had four the six contests they've 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.080 actually went into the third quarter with the lead, and 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:30.040 another two they've been tied. So do you think we'll 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.480 have another nail biter here at MetLife Stadium on this 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.000 short week Thursday? Night, Keller Rush, I would I would 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.360 have a hard time thinking that it wouldn't be a 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:47.680 tight game because Thursday night football, you know, unfortunately brings 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.360 out the worst, it can bring out the best. And 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.320 obviously last week we saw, you know, the Ravens score 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.040 forty points, so they're not going to tell you it 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.000 brought out the worst than them, even though they had 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:01.040 to finish it without their starting quarterback. So you know, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.640 you can have one of those games where one team 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.760 is just so you know, whatever the word is, I'm 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.880 gonna I'm not gonna say thoroughly unprepared, but but not 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.640 prepared enough and you're cramming things in so much. I'll 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.800 say this for the Bills, and I think this is 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.800 where they could have a distinct advantage over the Jets. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.880 The Jets roster is pretty young, right, uh, They're they've 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.440 definitely tried to build their team on youth and speed 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.680 and athleticism and and they're gonna continue. The Bills, on 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.480 the other hand, have a lot of players who have 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.840 been brought in from somewhere else. You know that we're 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.200 brought in as uh as street free agent signings, and 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.920 they've built a lot of their roster or or you know, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.920 full fledged on restricted free agents like I mentioned Micah 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.360 Hyde and Uh and Jordan's ployer. But by and large 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.440 you know their defensive line. I mean they you know, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.440 they shipped off Marcel Darius to Jacksonville and they've been 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.520 pleased to go with the line. He has a guy 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.520 like Cedric Thornton Uh as part of a rotation with 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.040 Jerald Worthy. I mean, these are these aren't household names guys, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.600 you know that, and and they're they're using that rotation 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.159 to the fullest uh And And it's a lot of 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.000 other players who Jordan Matthews at receiver, Guys who just 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.840 feel like they they are um, you know, players who 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.560 have to just kind of proved themselves because the teams 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.639 that they previously played for didn't want them. That's the 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.479 legendary Vic Gruci covering the bills up there in the 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.960 seven one six, the New York Times best selling author. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.320 You also can listen to him on Serious Exam on 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.720 a radio. He's got a Saturday morning show with Jets 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:50.240 Whispers of course at Danny Leverau. Vic great catching off 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.240 with you look forward to seeing that there is that 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.080 looking forward to it. Eric and take care of you guys. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.080 We'll see you. E A. Vicky as great as always, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.320 tremendous insight, the tremendous hols of the Buffalo Bill's team. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.480 He thinks they're legit. The Jets one another shot at 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.679 a team that one plays in the same division. And 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.800 two they could have won that game in Week one. Yeah, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.800 they certainly could have. Yeah, they were right there in 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.800 the fourth quarter. So it was kind of familiar. Uh, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.919 two Jets fans, is that in that ball game late 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.240 weren't able to finish. Um, you're asking me about the 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.359 next Factor. I'm glad you remember. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.000 I was gonna bring it up, but not take it. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.000 I'm gonna say, how about Darren Lee? I think why 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.240 do I think he could be an next factor? Because 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:40.560 McCoy is fantastic. He is a dynamic player. The Jets 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.320 have to be sound against the run, and maybe at 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.600 times they'll have to do a little shadow win of 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.240 Tyrod Taylor because he always got to watch Tyrod one 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.840 he breaks that pocket. I was gonna say, Jamal Adams 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.199 slash whoever guard Shady McCoy out of the back room, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.719 because Shady Lee the team and receptions, receiving yards, and 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.520 obviously he's their top rusher. Whoever guards him has a 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.919 tough task this weekend. And whether it's two players one player, 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.600 they switch. We've seen the Jets have three safety looks 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.840 for safety looks, so I'm very curious as two coaches 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.920 game plan for Lashawn McCoy. But because you touched on 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.359 Darren Ly and he's included in that category, I'm gonna 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.159 go something else. I'm gonna go with the defensive line. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.800 Because Vic Carucci talked about this, I thought this was 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.320 extremely interesting. You don't necessarily want to get sacks against 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.280 Tyrod Taylor, you just want to contain him. And I 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.800 think that if the Jets defensive ends in particular can 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.560 kind of forced Hiro out to stay in the pocket, 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.800 I think that's when Tyrod maybe gets a little shaken 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.600 up mentally, and then maybe that's when he throws. I 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.399 don't know if you're gonna get shaken up mentally, but 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.480 what I do like, we're coming at this because you 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.520 gotta get in his passing lane. He's not the tallest player, 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.399 as we know, Maddie Ryan, a guy six five or so. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.560 Tyrod Teller is a little over six ft, but a 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.120 guy who can come into play for the Jets this week. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.720 How about Conny Ely getting in the passing lanes and 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.560 then on the other side of the ball, And you 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.200 could say this each and every week, it's to nine. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.680 I think it's Paul. I think this offense always looks 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.920 different when he's going and he's got a little bit 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.680 of room because he brings juice, you know, and you 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.560 can see it, and you can see his teammates feed 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:32.080 off of him. I think he's a spark player and 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.479 maybe the Jets can get him going here on Thursday 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.399 night football Offensively, I'm going to s J and we 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.760 talked about it, so I'm just gonna put a little 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.600 two pieces here. Is that a s J. Maybe you 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:46.480 work the inside to then eventually work the outside. And 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.480 vix saying the Bills run a lot of his own. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.400 I think that you you utilize your big tight end 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.760 and then maybe that will open up some things on 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.359 the outside. You know who likes tight ends quarterbacks and 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.479 let's pretty in our quarterback chap any. Well, the Jets 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.800 don't have much time to lick their wounds because they'll 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.199 be on the field Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.280 What do you see from Atlanta? What do you take 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:16.440 out of that ball game? Because Todd balls. Afterwards, Jed said, listen, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.040 we have to be the team that starts throwing the 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:24.960 body blows instead of absorbing them. Well, Erica, I certainly 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.840 believe coach Bowls has a good pulse to his team, 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:33.040 and um, he understands why they're losing. And when you 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.040 look at a three and five team, I don't think 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:39.439 they're forcing the opponent to beat them. And that's unfortunate 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.480 because there's some really good plays being made, both offensively 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.280 and defensively. But those plays on a whole are being 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:51.600 negated because of a handful of losing plays being a turnover, 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:56.359 a sack, mistackles, miscommunication, whatever it may be. It's just 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.520 a handful, but a handful is enough to make you lose. 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.320 And then fell Chad, what do you think about Robby Anderson? 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.119 His performance kind of got overshadowed because of the loss, 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.520 but yesterday he had his first career a hundred yard 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.919 receiving day. Well, I think his production has increased because 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.440 his route running is getting better. Um, a couple of 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.160 times down the sideline, being able to work on through 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.920 font at the cornerback from the falcons and work the 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.680 technique and be able to work off the press coverage. 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.720 I think most teams think, even though Robbie is fast, 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:30.680 if they get up in his face and be physical 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.119 because of his stature, that they can win that battle. 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.880 The line excrements, But he's proving that he's quick, he's 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.520 got enough physicality and if you miss on the jam, 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:42.720 he's going to make you pay. And that's what he's 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.960 been able to do. He's also been able to catch 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.480 intermediate short routes to take shallow crosses, turn those five 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.600 yard games into double digit games. And so he's certainly 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.400 become a weapon for Josh McCown in the passing game. 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.879 What's John Morton doing at the beginning of game so well, 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.679 because that's three consecutive weeks where that that's the score 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.879 on their opening possession. Is he breaking tendencies because you 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:10.000 see a lot of times like on that Eric Thomlinson touchdown, Wow, 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:14.960