1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Like gas on the world. You played to win? The 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: game's a Jet touchdown. Your listening to the Official Jets 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: podcast Jets three sixty production Jets Nation. What's going on 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg and Eric Allen here on the Official Jets 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Podcast bringing you the Jets Bills Thursday Night Football Edition 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: game preview. You know what, I gotta say something our 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: producers Jack Tuman, tremendous job on the open. We haven't 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: talked about that or that you mentioned it once. You 9 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: mentioned it once or twice. I think it's me gone. 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: I like, I do like the open. It's great. I 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: hope the fans are joining it as well. And Jack 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: tumb in the voice of the open as well. I 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: don't know if he wanted the world to know that. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. He probably doesn't mind. Yeah, if he 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: has a problem with it, he can cut it out 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: of the Official Jets Podcast. Producer Jack Tuman, uh doing 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: a good job on the controls, especially this week. It's 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. We're gonna have It's a quick turnaround 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: for us to so we got some great guess you 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: got my my buddy Vick Carucci from the seven one 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: six Buffalo Horses and then later we're gonna dive down 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: to Kentucky and tuck some offensive football with our quarterback. Jet. 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right on that and Jets Bills the second 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: of two matchups. The Jets are entering the third quarter 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: of the NFL season. It's official, we're past the midway 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: point of the NFL season. It's flying by the Jets 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: so far three and five. It could be a very 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: different record, but that's what it is. In the two 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: games where the Jets have played both teams that represented 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: each conference in the Super Bowl in they've lost by 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown and they lost by five points. So what 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: has been what is in cur orged you from these 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: two games that show the fans, they show you, hey, 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: this team, we're setting ourselves up right. Well, no moral victories. 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: I think Josh McCown said it right in the postgame 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: news conference. Frustrating. Frustrating was it was, you know, you 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: go out there and battle, battle the elements, um and 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: uh movie football well at times and getting the end 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: zone and and uh, you know, just figure out, you know, 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: what the heck we're doing in the second half. It's 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: not not allowing us to play the same way. Frustrating yes, 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't say he's discouraged because the Jets are 43 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: doing a lot of good things offensively the last three weeks. 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I started with the bang John Morton's got these guys 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: going down the field, scoring on opening possessions. Um so 46 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: in the Jets are taking leads defensively. They won in 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the turnover differential department, which I thought against Atlanta that 48 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: would lead to a victory, but unfortunately there were sometimes 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: when the Jets did not capitalize with points all at all. 50 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: They're playing good football, you see balance offensively. A McCown 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: is third NINFL in terms of completion percentage. Uh. The 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Jets are turning people over defensively. They've had problems with 53 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: that in the past and that hasn't been an issue 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: this year. It's just finding that way to finish. I 55 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: know people at home are like, oh, sticky hearing that, 56 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: and the players are sick about it too, because you know, 57 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to pinpoint and say this area. This area 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: is that Germaine Curse has become a kind of a 59 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: spokesman in that locker room, and he said the margin 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: mirrors is small because you know, we're not that far off. 61 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just a few mistakes here, a 62 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: few mistakes there. But when I mean the margin of 63 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: error is still huge is because it's that hard to 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: close that off. It takes a lot. It takes a 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: lot to do things right longer than the other opponent. 66 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Um though it might not be far off, but it's 67 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a tough thing to do consistently. You know, you really 68 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: want to get that taste out of your mouth. And 69 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: when you're losing greens, I don't think it's a bad 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: thing that you got a short week. And I don't 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing that you have a short 72 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: week and you got a home game. And that's a fact. 73 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: And because you mentioned the color rush, Jets are back 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: in green this year for the color rush, the bills 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: will be in white if they have the white face masks. 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: He I'm gonna be a little jelly. You're gonna be mad, 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: a little jealous because we saw the white face mask 78 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: weeks four. They're fresh, all right. I'm trying to start 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: a petition with an organization that the white face man 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: become the tradition, the traditional look. That's the deal. The 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: Jets white face mask Alright podcast, Dieselert before we dive 82 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: in here with Vic afterwards. Be sure to stay tune 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: because he and I are gonna give our ex factors 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: for this Thursday's matchup. Alright, let's bring in my good buddy, 85 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Vick Garucci from a Buffalo and News. I want to 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about free agency right off the bat, because Kimberly 87 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Martin worked at Newsday. She went to the Buffalo News 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: and worked next to you as a colleague for what 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: four or five weeks? And then I follow you on Twitter, 90 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Vic and Vic Carucci and I'm seeing you in a 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: goodbye party. And now Kimberly Martins to the Washington Post. 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Six weeks was all we got 93 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: to have her on the staff. Uh, what a great addition. 94 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: She she was in that short amount of time, and 95 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: very sad and disappointed that she didn't stay with us. 96 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: I understood though her reasons. She Uh, the Washington Post 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: had been a dream opportunity that she said, you know, 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: she didn't see coming along at this stage. Um, but 99 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: it did, and uh, and I get it. She put 100 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: a lot of thought into uh, you know, before leaving. 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: She said she spent a couple of weeks. But hey, 102 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: I said, even though you were here for five minutes. 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: I still want to have a going away party for you, 104 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: and we did there. You are taking care of everybody there. Yeah, 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Kimberly has missed up here, and I know she's gonna 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: do a great job at the Washington Post. And you 107 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: guys continue to crush it there at the Buffalo News. 108 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: So vic are the Buffalo Bills a playoff contender? I 109 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: think they are, Eric, I mean, I think Thursday night 110 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: could provide even more of a solidification of that feeling, 111 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: because I think if if they were to come out 112 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: of that game with a win, uh and and sweep 113 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: that divisional series and have another conference and division victory, 114 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: uh they find themselves in a position where you'd really 115 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: really have to have some very bad things happen to 116 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: you to fall out of it. But we all know 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: anything can happen in the NFL. But my feeling at 118 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: five and two and the way they're winning games with 119 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: a defense that has really done an unbelievable job of 120 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: taking the ball way. They've got a seventeen takeaways, which 121 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: is just remarkable, the way they've been doing that against opponents, 122 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: and uh and and no, I don't know, you know, no, 123 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: other defense is doing it at the pace they are 124 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: that they have the longest active streak of at least 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: three takeaways a game with four games in a row um, 126 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the part Eric that tells me 127 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing is sustainable, even though they don't have 128 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: by any stretch of a dominating offense or or a 129 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: quarterback who's playing at the at the highest level of 130 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: great production. Tyrod Taylor got a hundred and sixties some 131 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: yards passing against Oakland Sunday, but that didn't matter. Vic, 132 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: I got a two parter for you. We spoke to 133 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you before Week one and you said Lashawn McCoy was 134 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: the key not only to the Bill's offense, but the 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: key to the season. What has Lashawn McCoy had been 136 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: doing in the first eight weeks i'll say seven since 137 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the Jets saw Buffalo in Week one, and to what's 138 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: changed for this Bill's team since these two teams faced 139 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: each other? Yeah, well, I I truly believed that was 140 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: the case. And you saw what he did against the Jets, 141 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: a hundred and ten rushing yards in that season opening victory. 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: That that I thought set the tone for what this 143 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: offense is. It's still a run based offense. Uh. But 144 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, Uh, you know, the following week worst game 145 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: of his career against Carolina. But it's been a running 146 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: game that needed to sort of find itself again since 147 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: that Jets game. And that happened weeks seven against Tampa 148 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Bay and he had in the in the ninety yard range. 149 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: But but definitely was you know, as a group, they 150 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: were running the ball much better. And they hundred and 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: fifty one yards against Oakland coming out a breakaway touchdown 152 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: run the end of the game. They were getting those 153 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: those consistent plays in the running game. I think when 154 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you have a formula that is driven by defense and 155 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: that this defense is playing as well as it is. 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: And again, when I last spoke to you guys, I 157 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: had no idea that they would, you know, be doing 158 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: this takeaway thing to the degree that they're doing. I 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: don't think anybody could predict that. But it's not happening 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: by accident, guys. They are absolutely training to do this. 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: It's emphasized in every meeting, every practice, and it shows 162 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: up on the field. I think when you've got that 163 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: going for you, the running game becomes very vital because 164 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: they complement each other as you know, Uh, and then 165 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: you're passing game. Uh should I mean, I'm sure they 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: love it to be explosive, but right now it's a 167 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: it's a safe passing game. Charles Clay. It's early in 168 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the week. You anticipate him trying to give it a 169 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: goal or the Bills probably take a conservative approach with him, think, um, 170 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna do everything they can to see 171 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: if he can be ready because of you know how 172 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: vital this game is. And uh, he was in uniform 173 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: but not you know, not practicing the other day. But 174 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: then you know, there's no mistaking what he means to 175 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: a passing game that otherwise lacks a lot when he's 176 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: not in there. Yeah, you're right. The Jets are really 177 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: excited about their rookie safeties and Jamal Adams and Marcus 178 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: may and both have played very well in the early going. 179 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: But the Bills have to be a static about their 180 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Safety's a pair of veterans that they picked up in 181 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the offseason. What can you tell us about that pair? Well, 182 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: they they've been tremendous. Micah Hyde number one, he's been 183 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: the really the catalyst of the entire defense and he's led. 184 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: You know, he leads that whole defense and especially not 185 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: just the secondary. I mean he puts everybody in the 186 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: right position. He's so smart, he's so such a leader 187 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: and uh and so they are. They have really built 188 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the defense from the back forward. Uh. Jordan Poyer has 189 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: been a tremendous contributor and they missed him. I'm sure 190 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: it didn't look like it in the game. Uh, they 191 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: had good I mean Trey Elston stepped in and did well. 192 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: He even got an interception. But Jordan Poyer is is, 193 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, a tremendous safety and I think a guy that, 194 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: uh that that will continue to play well once he's healthy. Um. 195 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how long he's gonna be out with 196 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: this knee injury. Uh, it might be a push to 197 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: see if he could be ready with a short turnaround 198 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: after missing Sunday's game. And um, but Tradavious White has 199 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: been tremendous at cornerback, the rookie, uh, shadowing Amari Cooper 200 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: as he did, and really helping the effort to force 201 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: the Raiders into a lot of check down Derek Carr 202 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: throwing a lot of check down passes because the coverage 203 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: was so tight. Uh, they missed d J. Gaines. He 204 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: was out of this Oakland game as well with a 205 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Charisse Wright struggled a little bit there, but 206 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: they didn't get a lot they really the Raiders didn't 207 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: get a lot off of him. But all at all, 208 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Leonard Johnson another nickel nickel corner that they have, hard 209 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: hitting guy. Uh. All in all, this secondary UH is 210 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: really one of the true strengths of the entire team. Yeah, 211 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Green's I just want to say, hides production is off 212 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the charts, like interceptions VI. Yeah, yeah, and and and Eric, 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: they're not you know, they're not just coming because I 214 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: mean there's a certain amount of good fortune that comes 215 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: we know with turnovers, especially in the in the bunches 216 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: that they've gotten them. But this is, this is this 217 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: has a lot more to do about a guy who 218 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: puts himself in the right position. And you remember him 219 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: from Green Bay. Uh. You know when the Bill signed 220 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: him and Jordan Porter, they signed him on the same 221 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: day as free agents. And these were there two big signings. 222 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: These were the statement signings. These were not big name guys. Uh. 223 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: They did get good contracts, certainly in free agency to 224 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: to to UH as their second contracts in the NFL. 225 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: But Hyde in Green Bay was a versatile player as 226 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: you know he's done. He's played at off corner and safety, 227 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: nickel and special teams and you know he's he's been 228 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: a Swiss Army knife. But for the Bills, he is 229 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: truly a safety. And and they have, as I say they've, 230 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: they've really gained tremendous, tremendous boost defensively from him. If 231 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: you're the Jets, how do you go about attacking this 232 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Bill's team? I think it has a lot to do 233 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: with number one, not letting Tyrod Taylor, uh keep your 234 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: defense off balance with both his legs and his passing arm, 235 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: because he'll do that. And it's it's about containing him, 236 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: which was something they were unable to really get a 237 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: full handle on um lesson from the first game. Is 238 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, not letting that running game get the better 239 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: of them. They've you know, the running games changed a lot, 240 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: changed up a lot of what they've done. They bring 241 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of variation of blocking scheme. Uh, the 242 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Jets will see that on tape. It's gonna look different. 243 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: As they studied the other games since that that first 244 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: game against the Jets, Uh, and and again I would 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: put I would I would try as much as possible 246 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: to forced Tyrode to to win it, you know, win 247 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: the game with his with his arm. But truth be 248 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: told us, you're you're not They're gonna get you at 249 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: some point, even if even if you get close to 250 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: the to the goal line. Uh, they're so opportunistic. Um, 251 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to just not turn it over. 252 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: And that's and again asked the Atlanta Falcons, asked the 253 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Bengals even though they won, asked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 254 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: and now asked the Raiders. You know you're looking at 255 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: what thirteen turnovers in in four games? Styles make flights 256 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: vic in um. That first game was a close contest 257 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: all the way to that up until the fourth quarter, 258 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: even though the Bills largely had the better of the 259 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: play early in that ball game. But the Jet Jets 260 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: between Week three and now, they have not faced a 261 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: deficit at halftime. They've had four the six contests they've 262 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: actually went into the third quarter with the lead, and 263 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: another two they've been tied. So do you think we'll 264 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: have another nail biter here at MetLife Stadium on this 265 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: short week Thursday? Night, Keller Rush, I would I would 266 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: have a hard time thinking that it wouldn't be a 267 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: tight game because Thursday night football, you know, unfortunately brings 268 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: out the worst, it can bring out the best. And 269 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: obviously last week we saw, you know, the Ravens score 270 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: forty points, so they're not going to tell you it 271 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: brought out the worst than them, even though they had 272 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: to finish it without their starting quarterback. So you know, 273 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you can have one of those games where one team 274 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: is just so you know, whatever the word is, I'm 275 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna say thoroughly unprepared, but but not 276 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: prepared enough and you're cramming things in so much. I'll 277 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: say this for the Bills, and I think this is 278 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: where they could have a distinct advantage over the Jets. 279 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: The Jets roster is pretty young, right, uh, They're they've 280 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: definitely tried to build their team on youth and speed 281 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: and athleticism and and they're gonna continue. The Bills, on 282 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: the other hand, have a lot of players who have 283 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: been brought in from somewhere else. You know that we're 284 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: brought in as uh as street free agent signings, and 285 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: they've built a lot of their roster or or you know, 286 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: full fledged on restricted free agents like I mentioned Micah 287 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Hyde and Uh and Jordan's ployer. But by and large 288 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: you know their defensive line. I mean they you know, 289 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: they shipped off Marcel Darius to Jacksonville and they've been 290 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: pleased to go with the line. He has a guy 291 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: like Cedric Thornton Uh as part of a rotation with 292 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Jerald Worthy. I mean, these are these aren't household names guys, 293 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: you know that, and and they're they're using that rotation 294 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: to the fullest uh And And it's a lot of 295 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: other players who Jordan Matthews at receiver, Guys who just 296 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: feel like they they are um, you know, players who 297 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: have to just kind of proved themselves because the teams 298 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: that they previously played for didn't want them. That's the 299 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: legendary Vic Gruci covering the bills up there in the 300 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: seven one six, the New York Times best selling author. 301 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: You also can listen to him on Serious Exam on 302 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: a radio. He's got a Saturday morning show with Jets 303 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Whispers of course at Danny Leverau. Vic great catching off 304 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: with you look forward to seeing that there is that 305 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Eric and take care of you guys. 306 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you. E A. Vicky as great as always, 307 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: tremendous insight, the tremendous hols of the Buffalo Bill's team. 308 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: He thinks they're legit. The Jets one another shot at 309 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: a team that one plays in the same division. And 310 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: two they could have won that game in Week one. Yeah, 311 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: they certainly could have. Yeah, they were right there in 312 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So it was kind of familiar. Uh, 313 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: two Jets fans, is that in that ball game late 314 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: weren't able to finish. Um, you're asking me about the 315 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: next Factor. I'm glad you remember. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. 316 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it up, but not take it. 317 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, how about Darren Lee? I think why 318 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: do I think he could be an next factor? Because 319 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: McCoy is fantastic. He is a dynamic player. The Jets 320 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: have to be sound against the run, and maybe at 321 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: times they'll have to do a little shadow win of 322 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor because he always got to watch Tyrod one 323 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: he breaks that pocket. I was gonna say, Jamal Adams 324 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: slash whoever guard Shady McCoy out of the back room, 325 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: because Shady Lee the team and receptions, receiving yards, and 326 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: obviously he's their top rusher. Whoever guards him has a 327 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: tough task this weekend. And whether it's two players one player, 328 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: they switch. We've seen the Jets have three safety looks 329 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: for safety looks, so I'm very curious as two coaches 330 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: game plan for Lashawn McCoy. But because you touched on 331 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: Darren Ly and he's included in that category, I'm gonna 332 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: go something else. I'm gonna go with the defensive line. 333 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Because Vic Carucci talked about this, I thought this was 334 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: extremely interesting. You don't necessarily want to get sacks against 335 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, you just want to contain him. And I 336 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: think that if the Jets defensive ends in particular can 337 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: kind of forced Hiro out to stay in the pocket, 338 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's when Tyrod maybe gets a little shaken 339 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: up mentally, and then maybe that's when he throws. I 340 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna get shaken up mentally, but 341 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: what I do like, we're coming at this because you 342 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: gotta get in his passing lane. He's not the tallest player, 343 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: as we know, Maddie Ryan, a guy six five or so. 344 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: Tyrod Teller is a little over six ft, but a 345 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: guy who can come into play for the Jets this week. 346 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: How about Conny Ely getting in the passing lanes and 347 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: then on the other side of the ball, And you 348 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: could say this each and every week, it's to nine. 349 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I think it's Paul. I think this offense always looks 350 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: different when he's going and he's got a little bit 351 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: of room because he brings juice, you know, and you 352 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: can see it, and you can see his teammates feed 353 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: off of him. I think he's a spark player and 354 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: maybe the Jets can get him going here on Thursday 355 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: night football Offensively, I'm going to s J and we 356 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: talked about it, so I'm just gonna put a little 357 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: two pieces here. Is that a s J. Maybe you 358 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: work the inside to then eventually work the outside. And 359 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: vix saying the Bills run a lot of his own. 360 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: I think that you you utilize your big tight end 361 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: and then maybe that will open up some things on 362 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the outside. You know who likes tight ends quarterbacks and 363 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: let's pretty in our quarterback chap any. Well, the Jets 364 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: don't have much time to lick their wounds because they'll 365 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: be on the field Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills. 366 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: What do you see from Atlanta? What do you take 367 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: out of that ball game? Because Todd balls. Afterwards, Jed said, listen, 368 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: we have to be the team that starts throwing the 369 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: body blows instead of absorbing them. Well, Erica, I certainly 370 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: believe coach Bowls has a good pulse to his team, 371 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: and um, he understands why they're losing. And when you 372 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: look at a three and five team, I don't think 373 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: they're forcing the opponent to beat them. And that's unfortunate 374 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: because there's some really good plays being made, both offensively 375 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: and defensively. But those plays on a whole are being 376 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: negated because of a handful of losing plays being a turnover, 377 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: a sack, mistackles, miscommunication, whatever it may be. It's just 378 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: a handful, but a handful is enough to make you lose. 379 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: And then fell Chad, what do you think about Robby Anderson? 380 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: His performance kind of got overshadowed because of the loss, 381 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: but yesterday he had his first career a hundred yard 382 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: receiving day. Well, I think his production has increased because 383 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: his route running is getting better. Um, a couple of 384 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: times down the sideline, being able to work on through 385 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: font at the cornerback from the falcons and work the 386 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: technique and be able to work off the press coverage. 387 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: I think most teams think, even though Robbie is fast, 388 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: if they get up in his face and be physical 389 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: because of his stature, that they can win that battle. 390 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: The line excrements, But he's proving that he's quick, he's 391 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: got enough physicality and if you miss on the jam, 392 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: he's going to make you pay. And that's what he's 393 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: been able to do. He's also been able to catch 394 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: intermediate short routes to take shallow crosses, turn those five 395 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: yard games into double digit games. And so he's certainly 396 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: become a weapon for Josh McCown in the passing game. 397 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: What's John Morton doing at the beginning of game so well, 398 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: because that's three consecutive weeks where that that's the score 399 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: on their opening possession. Is he breaking tendencies because you 400 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of times like on that Eric Thomlinson touchdown, Wow, 401 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: is he wide open? Shed? And that conversely, what's happening 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: later in the games to the offense. I know you 403 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: talked about the negative plays they have to avoid when 404 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: they're in scoring territory. But on a mackerel level, what 405 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: do you think has happened in offensively late well early 406 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: in the game. The Jets have come out extremely focused, 407 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: extremely sharp, starting fast with their mindset, and then coach 408 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Morton has complimented that with every down is a different look, 409 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: every down has a different personnel and so and they're 410 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: just executing at a high level as the game goes on. 411 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: I think you're finding lows where it's not about the 412 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: play calling, their personnel groups. It's just about the players 413 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: not maintaining that sense of urgency. And yet the defense 414 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: will win plays. But in the defense wins wins plays, 415 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: you want those plays that they win to still be 416 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: one and two yard games. You don't want those plays 417 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: to be uh sacks for loss of ten yards. You 418 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: don't want those plays to be because of penal penalties 419 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: and things like that. So that's what it is. I 420 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: just think it's it's a low and focus and a 421 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: low and attention to detail and a lack of situational 422 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: winnings to maintain positive momentum in your offensive games even 423 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: if you don't scool points. How different does this offense 424 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: look from the last time the Jets played the Bills 425 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: in Week one because back then Jermaine Curse and Jeremy 426 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Curley were right. They basically set foot in the door 427 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: earlier that week, and then they fell twenty one to 428 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: twelve in that game. And now the Jets are starting 429 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: fast and the offense looks completely different. Even in these 430 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: three losses, I think you've seem solid offensive production. I 431 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: think in that first game, you didn't see solid offensive production. 432 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: You saw lack of continuity. You saw a team that 433 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: did not had not established any rhythm work. So they 434 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: wanted for sure, okay, who are our playmakers? And now 435 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: I think, uh, both the staff and the players feel 436 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: like that they have multiple playmakers. That's the staff are 437 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: doing a good job of putting these guys in positions 438 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: to make the plays, and they're calling on multiple people 439 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: to make those plays. And so you've seen a nice tempo, 440 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: a nice rhythm, and their offensive game plan as well 441 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: as their offensive production. I think the key now is consistency. Uh. 442 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's not about spurts and one game 443 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: wonders and one drive wonders. It's about consistent offensive play 444 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: and production, UH that last throughout the game and four 445 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: quarters not just for a quarter here or there. Defensively, 446 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: are you encouraged by what you're seeing out of Mohammad 447 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: Wokerson who seems to be coming on, especially the last 448 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: two games. And also how critical is it gonna be 449 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: for this team moving forward to have a healthy Morris Clayborn. 450 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: He's getting some tests on he went down with a 451 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: leg injury against Atlanta. Hopefully he's back on the field Thursday. 452 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: But you saw Atlanta attacked the outside as soon as 453 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: he went out. They go up top to Julio Jones 454 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: with a fifty three yard strike from Matt Ryan and 455 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: then Mohammed Sanu, who's one of the top slot players 456 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Um, he went to work 457 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: on the Jets. There is six reception seventy four yards 458 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: as the Jets were juggling in the secondary late Chad 459 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: because Claiborne was out and Buster screen in play, So 460 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: um that might more justin Burris and Darryl Roberts on 461 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: the outside and Robert Nelson made his first appearance in 462 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: the Green and white. Yeah, overall, I thought the play. 463 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: It certainly allowed the Jets to win the game. But 464 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with injuries and now you're taking Um, 465 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: your corners who were used to playing only in nickel 466 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: situations are only maybe inside and now they're having to 467 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: play on first and second down situation and take more reps. 468 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: It puts more stress on your coverage, and then it 469 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: puts more stress on the coaching staff because they may 470 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: have to alter the game plan just a little and 471 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: start to think about areas of the defense that may 472 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: have a weakness throughout the game that you didn't plan 473 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: on being a weakness or being an issue as you 474 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: game plan through the week. And so it's a juggling act. 475 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: And UH, to only give up twenty five points to 476 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: create a H four field goal opportunities that could have 477 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: easily been touchdown opportunities was a positive for the Jets. 478 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: It's just right now, I don't feel like I feel 479 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: like the issue is the team is not playing complimentary football. 480 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: So um, both sides are playing winning football UH and 481 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: and playing really well and spurred, But to play complimentary 482 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: football is a completely different animal, meaning that UM, when 483 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: the defense needs to step up and make a play, 484 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: they've got to make it when the offense has got 485 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: and when they've got a h steps up and make 486 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: it play, you have to make it. You have to 487 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: be situational aware. So it's it's Uh, it's one of 488 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: those things that you don't necessarily have to deal with 489 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot in college or high school, but in the NFL. Uh, 490 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: it makes a world as different. How did the Jets 491 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: go about stopping Lashawn McCoy Because last time these two 492 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: teams played each other, Shady had a hundred ten yards 493 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: on the ground and another forty nine through the air. 494 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: He leads the bills and rushing, receiving yards and receptions. 495 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: So if your coach bowls, how do you go about 496 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: stopping McCoy? Well, this is gonna be a total team effort, 497 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: and I think historically over the last couple of years, 498 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: the Jets defense has struggled with McCoy in one on 499 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: one situations, which most of the leaked does, by the way, 500 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: But then they've also struggled with Tyrod Taylor being able 501 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: to get out of the pocket and extend play. And 502 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: that's basically going to be the game right there. Uh. 503 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor does an excellent job of protecting the football, 504 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: not putting his team in bad situations, and being able 505 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: to play to his defense when he has to and 506 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: so that's the game plan. The game plan is to 507 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: make sure that you've got this guy corralled. I would 508 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: imagine you're gonna see a little bit more zone. You 509 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: may see more spy techniques on McCoy in the passing game, 510 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: which then affects your pass rush. But at the same time, 511 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: your pass rush is not to stack the quarterback. Here 512 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: is to contain the quarterback in the pocket. Forced Taylor 513 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: to be a pocket passer, uh, knowing his lack of 514 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: height and that he feels more comfortable being outside. And 515 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: so I would imagine more bracket coverages, own coverages, picks 516 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: up the man, take your shots when you need to 517 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: as a defense, but certainly first and second down production 518 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: is key and making sure that those two guys don't 519 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: make big plays on first and second down. How much 520 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: stress does this Buffalo Bill's team put on other clubs? 521 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: Meaning you always love to say that, hey, and the 522 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: NFL teams don't win games, they let other teams lose games. 523 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: And when you look at the Bills right now, plus 524 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: fourteen in the turnover department. Also defensively not giving up 525 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: a lot of points the plane zone. Derek Carr was 526 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: frustrated Auckland Raiders quarterback because they couldn't get anything over 527 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: their heads of keeping everything in front, they're tackling while 528 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: and they're not turning the ball over offensively. That's that's 529 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: the game plan. And basically, you know, that's if the 530 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: Jets need to look at a team to mimic and 531 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: try to figure out how to do it, that would 532 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: be the team. It would be the Buffalo Bills. UM, 533 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: because that's what they're doing. They're not turning the ball over. 534 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Their turnover ratio is unbelievable and plus fourteen. Their defenses 535 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: maybe bending at times, but certainly not breaking. And what 536 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: they're challenging the opponent to do is beat us. If 537 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: you're good enough to beat us, and beat us. And 538 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: that's why they're sitting at five and two because they 539 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: have not lost the games they have. Uh, the opponent 540 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: has lost games to the Bills, and that's why they're 541 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: sitting at five and two, light beneath the Patriots, which 542 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: is a great spot to be in. So when I 543 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: look at this game, I see this game as another 544 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: game that you'll see the Jets be in and it's 545 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna come down to the fourth quarter. Um. And making 546 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: sure that they're doing things necessary to make winning played. 547 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes those winning plays aren't big eye opening plays. 548 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: They're a throwaway to avoid a sack. Um there are 549 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, making sure that you're containing a quarterback in 550 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: the pocket where he doesn't extend to play and turn 551 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: a five yard game into twenty yard game or a 552 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: thirty yard game down the field with his arm. Uh. 553 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: It's plays that may not show up, and it's that 554 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: book per se, but it shows up in the wind. 555 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Call the quick turnaround for this team now in a 556 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: three game losing streak, good thing, bad thing. And my 557 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: other question here, Parp is how difficult is it to 558 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: sweep a team uh in a year? Well, losing is 559 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: terrible no matter how you look at it. Uh. You 560 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: can always take positives from losing, but at the end 561 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: of the day, you're still losing. And I think probably 562 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: what's most frustrating for fans and players alike is that 563 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: these games are winnable games, and these games are games 564 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: you look back and go, Wow, we're in this. Wow, 565 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: we're making good plays, we're doing good things. We're just 566 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: not putting a full four quarters together, and we're causing 567 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: ourselves to lose these ball games. Teams. I don't feel 568 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: like teams have beaten the Jets. I feel like the 569 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: Jets have lost to these teams. And sometimes that's demoralizing, 570 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know that it can 571 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: be fixed. Well, Chat, you will actually be up here 572 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: uh this week, so we look forward to seeing you 573 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: and uh Thursday night. The color Rush uniforms, buddy, they 574 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: didn't have those back when you played its teams not 575 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: so long ago. But we're onto a new era Colorado 576 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Beet fans and leaving in the stadium and hopefully being 577 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: yet win. Yeah, great stuff from Chad Pennington. As always, 578 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: football is almost every day year though every year the 579 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Green's that's been uh for the last three day football 580 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: Jets Bills. This is the tradition. And too green now right? 581 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Too green? Yep to home. Do you like that color green? 582 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it looks better on television than it does 583 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: in person. How about that? All right, we'll leave it 584 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: at that, but your thoughts, I'll agree with you. So 585 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: it's a little too It's a little too vibrant for 586 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: my taste, But I don't mind if I don't mind it. 587 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: For one, listen when people have it on the street though. 588 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, okay, that's fair, I agree, you know, 589 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: And I like and the face masks are really shiny. Yeah, 590 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: you know. Listen, I love when the fans get an 591 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to take a look at the new uniform. We 592 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: see that in college football all the time. Is all 593 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: these teams changing up their uniforms every week. By the way, 594 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: what we're doing Ohio State, great win, but thumbs down 595 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: on the uniforms. But our uniform is one of the 596 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: And I don't say this because I've worked here for 597 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: seventeen years. I thought you just said you weren't trying 598 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: to date yourself. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying 599 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: I've been around for a little bit. So people will 600 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: say allegiances, e A. You gotta do allegiances to the Jets. 601 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: I will say the Jets uniform is classic looking, authentic, traditional. 602 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: I like that. All right, Before we put a ball 603 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: on this Thursday's matchup, what is e A's favorite jersey combination, 604 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: whether it's old new white and green green and white 605 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: hall white, I know the white face masker are going 606 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: to be there. If we're going traditional, I feel like 607 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: we're only a season a lot. We wear the white 608 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: jersey and the green pants and I like that. And 609 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: I really I'm a traditional lists and I know you 610 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: can't do this after a labor day, but the white 611 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: on white, I really like that looks very clean. You 612 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: know what about the vintage jerseys? Solid? Okay, solid, you know, 613 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: just you know B plus plus. Yeah, all right, this 614 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: this Thursday's matchup. Vic thinks it's gonna be a close fight. 615 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: Chad thinks it's gonna be a close fight. What does 616 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: he think? Oh yeah, it definitely is. Know Thursday night games, 617 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: you see lopsided scores when the teams don't know each other. 618 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: If it's a divisional contest, I think very rarely you're 619 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna see the game being one side one way or 620 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: the on one side or another. I think this is 621 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: it's a fasten your seatbelts type of game. It's gonna 622 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: be a fourth quarter affair. And these teams know each other, 623 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: they know each other's tendencies, and you know, you gotta 624 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: do what you do well and we'll see what happens. So, 625 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: you know, for the Jets, they gotta take away those 626 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: big guys that we continue to talk about, McCoy and 627 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: Llor but defensively, it seems like much like you're seeing 628 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: from the Jets now is the Jets are being are 629 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: transforming before our eyes. Bills built themselves from the secondary 630 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: then towards the line, and the Jets prenominantly for years 631 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: have been all of the talk about the defensive line. 632 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: You still have stylid guys up there, but now you're 633 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: seeing the Jamal Adams, the Marcus Mays, Morris Clayborne, knock 634 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: on wood, he's back out there Thursday night. He's played 635 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: really well for this team on the island. So the 636 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Jets secondary, which was a weakness in the past, is 637 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: becoming a strength. So we'll have to check on the 638 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: health obviously of Morris Clayborne and Buster Screen, who did 639 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: not play against the Falcons with a concussion. Furthermore, what 640 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: does the short we do to someone like Mohammed Wilkerson 641 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: who doesn't anticipate to miss any time, but his regiment 642 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: so far in the past couple of weeks has been 643 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: not to practice and then play on game day, So 644 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: we see how that plays out. But before we wrap 645 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: things up here on the Official Jets Podcast game preview, 646 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: outside of Lashawn McCoy, what's one thing the Jets need 647 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: to do that will help their chances to win this game. 648 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: They score twenty four points and don't turn over. They 649 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: went simple, simple equation. If they scored twenty four and 650 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: don't turn it over, they win. Those are two big ifs, 651 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: because this is a very good defense that does not 652 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: give up a lot of points and they've been turning 653 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: people over. But the Jets certainly can win this game. 654 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's gonna be anfantalk affair. That's all. 655 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: We got the Official Jets Podcast game preview Jets Bills 656 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: this Thursday on NFL Network, but if your locals don't worry, 657 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: you get it on CBS two as well. For Eric Allen, 658 00:37:48,400 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm Ethan Greenberg, SA