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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? DJ? Bucky back as we as we

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Speaker 1: continue to slog through the offseason, Buck, although I sometimes

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Speaker 1: to be some of the more fun episodes. How you

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Speaker 1: doing man, Man, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: DJ, I'm doing great. You talk about all the different

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Speaker 2: The College World Series is about to kick off soon.

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Speaker 2: We got softball going, we got hockey. We got everything

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Speaker 1: Some ground we're going to cover today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: continue on with our series where we're doing this draft series,

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Speaker 1: So it's been fun. We've knocked out the quarterbacks already.

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Speaker 1: That got a lot of attention. That was a fun one.

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to jump in and do the running

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Speaker 1: also going to continue on with our Hits and Missus series.

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Speaker 1: So we did the twenty seven or the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: Bucky did really well in the last one. But before

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Speaker 2: DJ is fascinating right now. I will unapologetically I'm a

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Speaker 2: You talk to them, that you know them, because it

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Speaker 2: A program is ever lasting. You want the pro gleams

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Speaker 1: Man teams coming go, that's that's a year. Thing like

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Speaker 1: And as much as it hate is, I hate to

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a lot of people mad with this pick,

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Speaker 2: he has all of that. So to me, he is

431
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 2: the new prototype for the position. Christian McCaffrey is exactly

432
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: what every offensive coordinator is looking for when they're looking

433
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 2: at a running back position.

434
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't disagree with you at all. I would

435
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: have been my pick as well. Man. There's you know,

436
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: you talk about somebody that Look at the difference he

437
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: made with San Francisco when he got there. I mean

438
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 1: people will talk about the value the running back position.

439
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 1: Look at that offense, look like with that dude changes everything,

440
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: all right? Since this is wide open, and since you

441
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: know we love to get criticism and I love to

442
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 1: fire people up, why not let's go ahead and do that.

443
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 1: Because I believe more than anything else that this position

444
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: is a young man's position. To me, track records are outstanding.

445
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: I love guys with track records, but I prefer guy

446
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: with fresh legs. And I've got a running back that's

447
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: coming into this league as a rookie that I think

448
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: can do everything. I think he can run it, he

449
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: can catch it, he can line up in the slot,

450
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 1: you can split him out wide and amongst all these guys, Buck,

451
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: he's got some fresh legs because he's right out of college.

452
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: My first pick, I'm gonna go Bijon. I'm gonna go

453
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: be Jon Robinson. Wow.

454
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 2: Wow, Holy smokes, I'm mute to my Oh my god.

455
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't even seen play.

456
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: A guy we haven't even seen play right now is

457
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 2: the number two running back in the draft. And I

458
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 2: get it. And the reason I get it DJ, And

459
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 2: it's funny because it was laughable that and the run

460
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: up to the draft, we couldn't even talk about him

461
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: as like the best play in the draft. We couldn't

462
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: even talk about him as a top five player because

463
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: the way the position is viewed and because it's been

464
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: devalued and all those other things. But if I just

465
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: go on and on about Christian mccaffeck, I could say

466
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: the same thing about that a lot of things, man,

467
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: And I hate to say this, and I hate to

468
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: put these lofty expectations on him, but DJ, when I

469
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: watch him, he reminds me so much of alt La

470
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: Dani and Thomason. When you're thinking about Ladani and Thomason

471
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: in his prime for the Chargers and he's scoring touchdowns

472
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: a million different ways. And his rookie season with North Turner,

473
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: he catches a million balls out the backfield and he

474
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: can run it. He's kind of like that that every

475
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: down workhorse who also has the ability to catch.

476
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: Man.

477
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: I think b Jon Robinson can do that. And even

478
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: though you don't use the running back like that, if

479
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 2: you needed to, you could. And so I'm excited to

480
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: see what Arthur Smith does with him. And they look

481
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: they take a lot of criticism but taking a running

482
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: back up there when they may have had other needs.

483
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: But the one thing we know about Arthur Smith, he

484
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: knows how to deploy a start running back. And so

485
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 2: now with him and talent Oars, what they can do

486
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: and the games that they can play with those two

487
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: running backs, to me, it's a perfect combination. He's outstanding player.

488
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: I thought, I just just just mix it up a

489
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: little bit before you there, Buck, that's all gosh man, all.

490
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm I'm I'm next up. And so here's

491
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: where I'm torn because your thing resonates with me in

492
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: terms of what you wanted the position and track me

493
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: like trend and track record and all that. But I'm

494
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: gonna go with Sakuon Barkley and it's gonna He's very

495
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: similar to the same conversation that we had with Christian McCaffrey.

496
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: Sa Quon Barkley, to me, is a little different because

497
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: he's a little more hit or miss when it comes

498
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: to his production. His production reminds me a lot of

499
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: when I say this like yesterdyear when I used to

500
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: be on the field when when Barry Sanders was playing.

501
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: But it's a lot like that. Is two yards minus one,

502
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: eight yards minus two, forty yard run. That's how I

503
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: say Kawin Barkley is he's so explosive, He's electric as

504
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: a runner and a receiver. He has come back from

505
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: the injury, and let's be honest, he carried their offense.

506
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: He's the one that kind of showed us the heavy

507
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: workload for their offense. Now we're talking about this year.

508
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer we can kind of

509
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: put it on him to be that guy. But to me,

510
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 2: he still is the prototypical running back that everyone wants

511
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: because he can do so much as a runner and

512
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: a receiver out the backfield.

513
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look that you know, that's no argument for

514
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: me whatsoever. I was. That was my decision was Bjon

515
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: versus Sakuon and I did you know? To me, I

516
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: thought they're both very versatile guys. I took the younger guy,

517
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: just you know, going with a little bit fresher guy.

518
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: Now I've said all this, I've got a young guy.

519
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna come back with somebody who's got a

520
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: little bit of a track record here, but Austin Eckler.

521
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: But I can see him every week. You've seen him

522
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: a couple of times doing these Charger games. You see

523
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: him live hundred plus passes last year. I mean, he

524
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: is by far the best, you know, most productive receiving

525
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: back in terms of what he's been able to accomplish.

526
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: And he's gonna give you double digits on the ground

527
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: and in the air like he can. He can give

528
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: you twenty touchdowns. He's done that. So to me, that's

529
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go. I know he was a little

530
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: frustrated with the offseason and the contract, but the game

531
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: a little bit of incentives here. To me, I just

532
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: think about it. If if we're in a draft room

533
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: and we're having all these running backs that are available,

534
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: I just envisioned the offensive coordinator of our team saying, man,

535
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: look what I can do with Austin Eckler. Like just

536
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: he's gonna score points for me. If at the end

537
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: of the day, this is a game where you got

538
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: to score points to win games. This guy produces touchdowns

539
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: like nobody else. So I go Austin Neckler.

540
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: So I like to pick and I like the trend

541
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: that we're seeing. Everybody that we mentioned is a legitimate

542
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: threat out of the backfield in the passing game. And

543
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: it's very, very hard to imagine taking a running back

544
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: high if they can't give you anything as a receiver

545
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: in the passing game. You have to be able to

546
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: be a multifaceted playmaker out of the backfield. So the

547
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: next day, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the Las

548
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. I'm gonna take Josh Jacobs. I'm taking Josh

549
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: Jacobs because he gives you a little bit of the

550
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: new school, but still he's an old school runner. This

551
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: is a guy who is physical, he's tough. He does

552
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: a great job of punishing guys at the end of

553
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: the runs. You look at the stat line. He was

554
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: the leading rusher last year over sixteen hundred yards. He

555
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: had twelve touchdowns, you know, and I am one and

556
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if we talked about this, but in

557
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: terms of big place, he has seventy runs over twenty

558
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: two runs over forty. He had a long of eighty six.

559
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 2: He's an old school workhorse back who remember coming out

560
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: of college. This is one of the things because I

561
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: remember you and I were split on him. You really

562
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: liked him. I was like, Man, I don't know if

563
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: you can take anybody who hasn't had enough production, But

564
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: because he didn't have a lot of mileage, you now

565
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: can run him hard in the pros because he doesn't

566
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: have the quote unquote injury history. He doesn't have any

567
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: of that stuff that might have plagued some of the

568
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: others coming in low knowledge, high yield. We've seen that

569
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: since he's in the the league.

570
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of his game. Man, some

571
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: guys are just natural runners. He's a natural runner. He

572
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: can grind out tough yards and he can catch it

573
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: a little bit too when you need him to out

574
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: of the backfield. So I've got no problem with that

575
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: pick whatsoever. Man, Okay, I can go in a lot

576
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: of different areas here, gosh, there's an obvious pick. There's

577
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: an obvious one that's out there. But man, I wish

578
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: I knew health wise where this player was. But based

579
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: off what I saw in limited stretches, I'm gonna go

580
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: with Breeze Hall here with my next one. Oh yeah,

581
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he had a legit chance to

582
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: lead the league in rushing. Last year. He was. He

583
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: was on fire there with the Jets. Then unfortunately that

584
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: game in Denver he goes down, Elijah very Tucker goes down.

585
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: Their season was over like that was that was a wrap.

586
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: He made that whole thing go. So you know, in

587
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: terms of where he's going to be at at the

588
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: start of the season, maybe it got to ease him

589
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: into it a little bit. But as somebody with size, speed,

590
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: the ability to really catch the ball make people mess

591
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: do things with the ball in his hands, I'm going there.

592
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm again Eckler's my veteran, but I'm surrounding

593
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: my veteran as many young studs as I can. So

594
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Breeze Hall.

595
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: Oh man, I can just I can just see it.

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Because there are four picks left. We got Breeze Hall

597
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: going off the board before some notable we got guys,

598
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: some guys that have the guys have done it for

599
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: a long time in the league. But as you have stated,

600
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: it's a young man's game and you want young, fresh, dynamic.

601
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: And I look, I know this, and I'm sitting there saying,

602
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the list. I'm looking at Derrick

603
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: Henry and Nick Chubb and some of these other guys.

604
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: But DJ Travis Ittsien, he's screaming my name. He's called

605
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: him a name because I'm looking at what he was

606
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: able to do. His first season with the Jags was

607
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: the first because his rookie season he didn't play. But

608
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: you can already tell that he is going to get

609
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: a hefty workload in terms of running receiving. We saw

610
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: him have flashes. We saw him put some big plays

611
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: out there, and I'm looking at him. He quietly had

612
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: eleven hundred yards. He had it on only two hundred

613
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: and twenty carries. We talked about exposive plays, eight twenty

614
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: yard runs, four forty plus yard runs, called the ball

615
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: out the backfield. He has speed, the burn and in

616
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: an offense that should be more wide open this year,

617
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: he's gonna have more space to run because Calvin Ridley

618
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: is going to change the equation when you have him

619
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 2: and Christian Kirk and Evan ingraman z A Jones, Travis

620
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: nt Enna is going to be a big force, and

621
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: I think you may see fewer rushing yards but maybe

622
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: more of an impact as a receiver. Guy's good, So

623
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take him.

624
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. In fact, that was going to

625
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: be my number. I was gonna throw at you because

626
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I always liked to during these episodes. It did last

627
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: week look at some next gen stat stuff and see

628
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: what pops. So I did it with running backs this week,

629
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: buck because obviously we're having the running back draft. So

630
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: I went rushing yards over expected. Guys that had at

631
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: least fifty carries, so you know what they're expected to get.

632
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: They exceeded by this number. Number two on the list

633
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: was Travis Etn two hundred and sixty three yards over expected,

634
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: so average five point one to carry. He was excellent.

635
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: So I love that pick there. The thing is, the

636
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: guy that was the top of that list was one

637
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: spot over him was Nick Chubb. So I'm gonna go

638
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, who had more rushing yards over expected anybody

639
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: else in the league, and people might be looking at

640
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: this say he should have gone a lot earlier. I

641
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: can't argue with that. We kind of went with the younger,

642
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: fresher bodies. But nobody runs is physical and is violent

643
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: as tough as Nick Chubb. So I'll go Nick Chubb

644
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: right here.

645
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Ooh. I liked that. And look he was next because

646
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: I was like Nick Chubb, I'm not gonna have the

647
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: dog pound at me. At some point I was gonna

648
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: fall him the sword and I was gonna take him.

649
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: I mean a guy rushed for fifteen hundred yards. Yeah, dwell,

650
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: DJ like it's funny, right, I just talked about all

651
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: those big plays. He had the most twenty yard run

652
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: twenty plus yard runs in the league with thirteen physical

653
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: I think he and Shaun Watson are going to make

654
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: the Browns kind of sneaky as an outside It's.

655
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: A talent ten talented team. Man, it's a talented team team.

656
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: So if they get it together, they could be a problem.

657
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: All right.

658
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: So I got the last one, and this is this

659
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: is tough, man, because I'm sitting here and I'm looking

660
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: at the guys that are on the board. I got

661
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones on the board. I got Derrick Henry on

662
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: the board, Miles Sanders, but I am going to go

663
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: a little bit enoughing you guys. I'm gonna go with

664
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: Nase Harris from the Pittsburgh Stellers, and I hope we

665
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: haven't already wasted Nase's best days the first two years

666
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: in the league because I felt like he was running

667
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: into a brick wall those first two years, even though

668
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: he's gone over one thousand yards each season. But this

669
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: year should be better. Kenny Pickett being more confident, more

670
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: comfortable in the offense, George Pickens, who I expect to

671
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: emerge as a big breakout star, should give him more room.

672
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Naja Harris, when you go back and watch him at Alabama, Man,

673
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: he could run, catch, you can do everything. He does

674
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: the same stuff in Pittsburgh. I just want to see

675
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: if they can utilize him more than just being the

676
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: sledge him and that's running in between the tackles.

677
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think this offensive line is going

678
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: to be so much better. And I think if Darneld

679
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: Washington stays healthy with what he does is a blocking

680
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: tight end even as a rookie, I think you give

681
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: him a little bit of a runway. We always said

682
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: it when he came out. Dude just needs a runway.

683
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: You got to give him a little bit of a runway.

684
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: He might actually have one this year. So Naji there,

685
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: I like that all right. Last pick, and like you said,

686
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: we've got some big names that are still sitting out there.

687
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: This to me comes down to three guys for me

688
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: in this spot. I'm looking at Jonathan Taylor, you know,

689
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: getting a full season out of him. Hopefully he stays healthy,

690
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: the group in front of him stays healthy. That's an option.

691
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, we know what he's done, sharing that load

692
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: and how impressive he's been. It's his show there in Dallas,

693
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: so that's an interesting one. And then obviously Derek Henry

694
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Lifetime Achievement Award. I mean you got to consider him

695
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: for what he's been and what he does. Yeah, just

696
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: a unique I'm gonna go Jonathan Taylor. That's gonna be

697
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: my last one here. Home run hitter provides that physicality

698
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: as well. Got to keep him healthy. Got to get

699
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: the group in front of him to play a little

700
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: bit better. I think they will. Shane Stiken coming in there,

701
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: I think when you have you know, when Anthony Richardson

702
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: gets out there, whether it's week one, week four, whatever,

703
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: when you have to account for him as a runner,

704
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a monster year for Jonathan Taylor. So

705
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: I'll go Jonathan Taylor there as the final pickbook.

706
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh, the combination of Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson running

707
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: all kinds of zwe read power read stuff could be problematic.

708
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: The main thing is how quickly the young quarterback develops

709
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: if he gives them anything in terms of explosiveness or

710
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: big plays. Early in the season, you were going to

711
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: see Jonathan Taylor's numbers absolutely skyrocket. We saw the effect

712
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: that Lamar Jackson had on the Baltimore Ravens running game,

713
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: and they have had a running back that hasn't even

714
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: been close to the explosive player that Jonathan Taylor is.

715
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Anthony Richardson is debt, but if

716
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: he is able to give you some of it, Lamar

717
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 2: Jackson does some of what Jalen Hurst does as a runner,

718
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: it is going to open up the field for Jonathan

719
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: Taylor and he could put up big numbers as a

720
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: runner in this you know this this unique allegiate like

721
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: offense they use the quarterback as a runner.

722
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a good collection of backs. That's what

723
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: we've come away with here. And if you flipped it,

724
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: if you flipped it and said, like I'm looking at

725
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: my guys, if you said that I want Jonathan Taylor first,

726
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: then Chubb, then Breist Hall, then Eckler, then b John Robinson,

727
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't think people would. It wouldn't even they wouldn't

728
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: even bat an eye. So I mean it's the same

729
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: type way with your team, like you can flip them around.

730
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Seemax's own deal. I think he's the top guy. I

731
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: think we would both agree on that one. But outside

732
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: of that, shake him up, man, shake him up, and

733
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: go with whatever flavor you like.

734
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: And so here's the thing, because I am like, look,

735
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: I carried a flag for running backs and all that

736
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: other stuff. But DJ, when you just think about like

737
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: the short I would say the short lifespan in terms

738
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: of guys, Like, let's just think about guys we left

739
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: off the list. Derrick Henry's not on the list, Dalvin

740
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: Cook's not on the list, Alvin Kamar is down on

741
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: the list, and Walker a good roo yeah yeah, walk

742
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: it yeah, Aaron Jones. So just think about the good

743
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: players that are there, but think about the young players

744
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: that are coming to because Kenneth Walker was close to

745
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: being included on the list. For me, I mean, it's

746
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: like a young person's game if I was in the

747
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: front office every other year, I mean every year, I

748
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: think you can draft the running back. But every other

749
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: year I'm gonna draft one in the top three rounds. Yeah,

750
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: I can be ready on the third round because we've seen,

751
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: we've seen, we've seen the sweet spot as the second

752
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: and third round to get these guys in. Look, man,

753
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep turning it over because

754
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: you have to have a bunch of them, because when

755
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: you don't have one, it impacts the way the quarterback

756
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: has to play.

757
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some quick hits and missus and

758
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: we'll wrap this bad way up. We're gonna go the

759
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen draft here, buck, so we're gonna fire away

760
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: here I'll go. I'll go with the hits first, because

761
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: they're both going to be running backs. Both these guys

762
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: that had rated pretty pretty significantly higher than where they

763
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: ended up going. And so I'm gonna give you the

764
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: two players and then these guys were both ended up

765
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: being good hits here. So the first one was five

766
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: eleven three. Uh so five eleven three eight two hundred

767
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: and ten pounds ran four to forty nine. I said,

768
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: he's got excellent football character. There was some concerns about

769
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: some stuff off the field. Uh, this dude destroys angles.

770
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: He can step out of tackles. Uh, he refuses to

771
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: go out of bounds. He needs to get a little

772
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: bit better and pass pro. He can catch the football.

773
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Fumbles have been a little bit of an issue. But

774
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: he was my fifteenth player in that draft.

775
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: Who So this is tough because I have two guys

776
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: in mind. Let's guess and go a Dalving Cook.

777
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, Yeah, he was my he was my fifteenth player.

778
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: Where Didalvin end up going end up going what second

779
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: round forty one?

780
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: Second, second round forty one? Yeah, first overall.

781
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: So and and to me, there was you know, there

782
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: was some talk and some chatter about him, and oh

783
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: there was a lot of chatter. Yeah, he needs to

784
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: go to the right place and uh, and he did.

785
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's had an outstanding run there with the

786
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. All right, let's get to the next one.

787
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: And you I already know you know who this one is.

788
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: This was my twenty sixth player. He was five one

789
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: one two two fourteen, ran four four six transferred for playtime.

790
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: He's never had more than eighteen carries in a game.

791
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: He sudden, he's explosive, he's a natural pass catcher. He

792
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: can make people miss. He had the tackles that he

793
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: broke six tackles on one play against Vanderbilt. That was

794
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: showed you all you need to know. I thought he

795
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: was an easy evaluation. He was my twenty sixth overall player. Uh,

796
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: he went significantly later than that and has been significantly

797
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: better than that.

798
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 2: Would that be Joe Mixon?

799
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: No, not a transfer.

800
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, checking out.

801
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: It's never had more than eighteen carries. Buck, that's your

802
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: that's your key. Oh that's Alvin Kamar. Correct, There you go,

803
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamar. Yes, he was one of those ones where

804
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: again that there's certain guys like running backs. I feel

805
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: like that's a position where you can kind of see

806
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: one play and you know not to scout. You see

807
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: one player like, oh okay, it's all in there. I

808
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: don't care how many time to touch the ball. That's

809
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: a team problem. Not ain't him problem.

810
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: So here's a funny thing you remember, I guess last

811
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: week when we had a conversation with David Shaw, we

812
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: talked about watching Christian McCaffrey's workout at the Combine and

813
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: how he ran rouse whatever. What we didn't talk about

814
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: was it was not only Christian McCaffrey, but Alvin Kamara

815
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: was also working out and they went toe to toe

816
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: in terms of running routes, catching passes, and doing all

817
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: the other stuff at the Combine. Alvin Kamar actually changed

818
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: the game. And what has happened I would see in

819
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: New Orleans he was not that he hasn't been good

820
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: as a workhorse runner, but he was almost better as

821
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: kind of like the side entre. Like they had the

822
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: physical running back and mark Ingram or somebody else. Alvin

823
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: mar was just kind of able to kind of pop

824
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: in and out do things in the passing game, do

825
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. I think with the heavy

826
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 2: workload he just kind of gets worn down. You see

827
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: some of the injuries and stuff pop up. But well,

828
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: he can do.

829
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: A lot of damage on the let him and touches.

830
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: You don't need him to do touch the ball a

831
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: zillion times. He can you touch it thirteen to fifteen

832
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: times and do a lot of damage?

833
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: And he does, and and and I think that has

834
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: been the recipe. But he has been fantastic. You're right

835
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. He he didn't get it enough. He should

836
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: have got it more, but fantastic play.

837
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, here are the two misses. Let's go to

838
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: and there's trust me. There's always a lot more than

839
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: this head and narrow it down. But too, let's start

840
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: with a tight end. Undergraded him. He was six zho

841
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: three six two forty seven. He ran four or five

842
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: two plays in line, a lot of pivot routes. He's

843
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: got a second gear with the ball in the air.

844
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: He's built kind of looks like a full back when

845
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of wheel routes. He's a

846
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: very physical blocker. Didn't think he was a smooth route runner.

847
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Turns out he was playing injured with an ankle that year.

848
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: But again, the big number there is the four five two.

849
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: He tested like like a freak limited production.

850
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you say physical blocker, ed eliminated who I

851
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: originally was thinking about, which was Evan Ingram that he's

852
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: not a blocker.

853
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: No, but I Evan Ingram kind of where he got picked,

854
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: and he's kind of been, you know, pretty much what

855
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. This guy was picked later

856
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: as a tight end and as he's one of the

857
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: best in the league. So it was obviously a miss

858
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: m I don't know who that is. I'm going through.

859
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking, Oh, George Kittle, there we are. We got yeah,

860
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: I had to dig down, deep down.

861
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Look at.

862
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: Fifth round. You know he went before him, Jake but

863
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: from Michigan. Man, do you remember how much we liked

864
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: Jay but unfortunate injury, uh and the thing.

865
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: But I was at the game when he got hurt too.

866
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: In college, he got hurt in that whole game Againstdalvin Cook,

867
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: who we were just talking about Florida State.

868
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: I actually remember you text me and just was like, man, Buck,

869
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't think this was good, Like I just remember, yeah, yeah,

870
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: And you know, he never he never was able to

871
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: fully bounce back from that. But he was one of

872
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: the ones that we talked about. But man, George Kittle,

873
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: we talked about the injuries, the lack of production at Iowa,

874
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: got a bad rep there, you know, coming out like

875
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff swirling around in terms of him,

876
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: but man, he's outplayed. And when you go back and

877
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: you think about Iowa, the tight ends that Iowa has.

878
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Produced, I mean, just another one this year, another one

879
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: this year. Samulaford is going to tear it up. By

880
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: all accounts, looked awesome in their main camps.

881
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they just they just they just have a

882
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: way of getting those guys to play at a high level.

883
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, George ktell everyone the league, the league missed

884
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: on that.

885
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: But we always like to say what's the lesson, right,

886
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: the lesson And that's something that we've learned going back,

887
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: is tight ends has been a traits position more than

888
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: any other position in the league. The forty time in

889
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: the athletic testing has been a better indicator of success

890
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: than it has been at other positions. It is production.

891
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: Production at tight end is in college is solely dependent

892
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: on who your quarterback and play color are. You can't

893
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: control that.

894
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: You can't control it. But in the National Football League

895
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: it is a position that can be developed. It's also

896
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: one where you can create the production for them with

897
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: a great play caller. So yeah, if you have the traits,

898
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: you have a chance. And we've seen it time and

899
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: time again and so he'd be exciting to see not

900
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: only can Kitto continue to dominate like he has, but

901
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: some of these other young guys that come in with

902
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: super size dimensions and great talent.

903
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: All right, this next one here is another mess. This

904
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: is on the other side of things. This is somebody

905
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: that I had as my thirty fourth overall player as

906
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback and has has not has been a bust.

907
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: So it was too high of a grade. Definitely a mess.

908
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Six Zho four to two two thirty three ran a

909
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: four to eight four the let's see, comfortable in the pocket.

910
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to play with a little more

911
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: urgency as a physical runner. I thought he fell off

912
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: the mound a little bit, so fallen off to the

913
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: left for some balls. And he did have to he

914
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: did have to play in three bad weather games. So

915
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: that was in the Texas game. I went and watched

916
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: live when he played against Texas, and I said, at

917
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: that game, I thought he looked like the first overall

918
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: pick and that was the best that he was. And

919
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: since he's been in the league, he's done nothing.

920
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

921
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: That's it.

922
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, I'm drawing. I don't have anything for you

923
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: on this one. Zero.

924
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: Who is I said, he was my thirty fourth player,

925
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: So he's a thirty fourth player.

926
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Thirty fourth player.

927
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I think Exus is the game.

928
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: The Texas game is the game.

929
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: Yep, he was. I can't tell you because I think

930
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: you're looking on like the list of picks. But he went.

931
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I was a little higher on him than where he went,

932
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: not a ton higher. But nonetheless it didn't it Kaiser, Okay,

933
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: he was. It was the fifty second pick. He was

934
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: my thirty fourth player, and fifty was too rich. Fifty

935
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: two he wasn't. He didn't live up to it. But

936
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: I'll lead you to the question there, what did what was?

937
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: What was missed on to Shan Kaish?

938
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: You talk about man, I missed on him major, you

939
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: talk about thirty four hour. Look, I was sitting here

940
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: thinking that the kid would be up there in that

941
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: draft you talk about.

942
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: Oh. I praised him on television when he got picked.

943
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: I praised the pick. I was like, man, fifty second pick,

944
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: that's a good value. He was my thirty four player.

945
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, Trubisky, you got Homes, you got Deshaun Watson.

946
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean I had him up there. I thought he's

947
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: gonna be a great play, he had size, he had attributes.

948
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: But DJ, I don't know if you remember this. You

949
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: remember when Brian Kelly came on with us during that.

950
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: Year, Yes, that was weird, right, he didn't This wasn't

951
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: what he said. It was what he didn't say.

952
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wasn't super complimentary in terms of whatever

953
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: he gave us.

954
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: He gave us very stock.

955
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Answers now that you look back at it. And so

956
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: I would say the thing that was missing one he

957
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: went to a terrible situation. He wasn't ready to play,

958
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: and I think there was some immature. This was here

959
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: it is I pulled it up. Brian Kelly does not

960
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: believe Warmer quarterback to Sean Kaiser is ready for the NFL.

961
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: He should still be in college. He said, yeah, immaturity,

962
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: the immaturity. Yeah, the immaturity. The immaturity plated kind of

963
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: showed itself, you know, because he didn't handle diversity well,

964
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: bounced around and never really never really kind of came out.

965
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: And even when you hear him now, he hasn't necessarily

966
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: owned some of his shortcomings when it came to why

967
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: it didn't work for him, And so I may speak

968
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: to why it didn't work for him because he couldn't

969
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: acknowledge Hey, man, here's where I need to get better.

970
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: This is where I got to go from here to

971
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: be able to kind of carve out a career for myself.

972
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: One of the other things to the lessons for me

973
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: was when I go back through those notes, I didn't

974
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: think he had urgency. And you know, to me and

975
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: people use different words right here are people talk about processing,

976
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, twitch urgency, like those are all technically different things,

977
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: but I think it all works together. Whereas I think

978
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's easier to slow somebody's clock down

979
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe than it is to speed it up,

980
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You don't have any twitch

981
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: urgency like this, like bing bing bing like this. It's

982
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: hard to describe it. You know it when you see it.

983
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: But when you have somebody that's kind of lethargic, if

984
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: you're lethargic, it's hard to then get you juiced up

985
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: and get you going, you know what I mean. Like

986
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: I just thought he didn't play with enough hace, urgency,

987
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: twitch quickness, whatever term you want to use. I just

988
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: thought it was too too nonchalant back there.

989
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice that's a nice way of saying it.

990
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you want to see a little more

991
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: fire out of your quarterback, but it has to be authentic.

992
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: But you want to see a little more. You called

993
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: about gumption, those something a little a little more and

994
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny like looking back at Brian Kelly

995
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: and I would say this, Brian Killy has always been

996
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: very transparent with us whenever he's been able to come on,

997
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: and he knows exactly what he's looking for and he

998
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: talks about it. He talks about toughness and he coaches. Look,

999
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: I know he's had to change his style for TV,

1000
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: but he coaches guys. And so for him to say

1001
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: that he wasn't ready, he knew and he was he's

1002
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: another year of college, He's another year.

1003
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: Yep. It was amazing.

1004
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: He was right. That's amazing that he said.

1005
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, Yeah, pretty crazy. When you go back and

1006
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: look at that stuff, I mean, I mean, if you

1007
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: think about it like this is a that's a great

1008
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: point is that you should never never just brush aside

1009
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: these comments. Because you remember when Coach More came on

1010
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: about Josh Rosen and he said, who would you take?

1011
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Said I'll take Sam Darnold. And then then he kind

1012
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: of had to walk it back a little bit, you know,

1013
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: in the press, like in the days after that. But

1014
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: and it wasn't that he said anything bad about Josh Rosen.

1015
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: It was just he didn't give him the full and.

1016
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: He didn't give him a rousing endorsement. But yeah, and

1017
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: looking back, I have a great appreciation because he was

1018
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: right about his player. And sometimes we have to we

1019
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: have to re to tea leaves if the coach doesn't

1020
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: give it, because it's almost like running for political office.

1021
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: If you can't get an endorsement from your head coach,

1022
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: it is a problem. It's a problem.

1023
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's uh, you know, it's a great point.

1024
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: It'd be an interesting study if you're listening to this,

1025
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: go back through yourself so you can find some other

1026
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: examples of guys who did not get a full endorsement

1027
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: who the coach ended up being right about. I bet

1028
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: you there's other ones were not thinking of. But anyways,

1029
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: this was a fun one today, buck anything else you

1030
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: want to get into. Who do you like? By the way,

1031
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: this you might be listening to this the game already happened,

1032
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: But I know you're a Heat fan, but who do

1033
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: you like in game seven?

1034
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with them, But I'm going with them

1035
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: and only because everything, like Eric Spolsenauden said that everything

1036
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 2: they've done has been the hard way, right. They lost

1037
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: the first game of the playing tournament, you know, so

1038
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: they lose the first game, and then they barely be

1039
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Chicago to get in, and then they knock up to the

1040
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: number one seed, and they've continued to go on and

1041
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: so I'm going to say that they find a way

1042
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: to have enough resilience and grittiness about them to back.

1043
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: To me. This is a fascinating case study in how

1044
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: can you get your team ready to bounce back after

1045
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: heartbreak and can you separate things that happened before in

1046
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: a one game Because people always talk about a it's

1047
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: one game. It doesn't matter, there's no carryover. But the

1048
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: natural emotion and human inclination is to be like, oh

1049
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: my god, we lost three in a row. But then

1050
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: if you tell Eric Sposter, like, yeah, but they lost

1051
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: three in a row and then they won three at

1052
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: the end of the day. However, you get the game seven.

1053
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: You're in game seven. So I'm just excited to see

1054
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: how people play in the championship game, because, as you know,

1055
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: there's no pressure like a Game seven, no pressure like

1056
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: playing in a conference championship game or a super Bowl.

1057
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see how people respond.

1058
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say I think I'm going to

1059
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: lean towards Boston. But in the vein of the draft,

1060
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: as we just did a running back draft and that's

1061
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: what we're doing on these episodes, I would say I

1062
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: think we both if we said we were having a

1063
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: Game seven draft of who you want in a Game

1064
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: seven with those two teams, Butler would be the first

1065
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: pick for both of us. That dude, he's gonna thrive

1066
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: in that environment.

1067
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: He may throw o because of the toughness. But DJ,

1068
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: here's the thing, like, if you go and we talk

1069
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: about like talent, I think it kind of reminds me

1070
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: it might be a little bit of like when we

1071
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Speaker 2: did the kan City Cheese Philadelphia egals. Do we do

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Speaker 2: like a draft of the best ten players? We talked

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Speaker 2: about that and it was like Pat Mahomes and Eagle

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Speaker 2: Eagle Eagle Eagle, right yeah, yeah yeah, So so right

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Speaker 2: now what you're looking at is I think the only

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Speaker 2: guy that you take from Miami over the first four.

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Speaker 2: So guys of Boston might be Jimmy Butler, but Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 2: Jayalen Brown, everybody else the kind of doing that, and normally, man,

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Speaker 2: you skew towards talent. This would be a test of

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Speaker 2: the Celtics toughness because they should win because they're more

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Speaker 2: talented team. Are they tough enough to do all the

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Speaker 2: dirty stuff that you have to do to win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I would imagine it's going to be an

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Speaker 1: avalanche by the Celtics early and then the heat are

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Speaker 1: just so tough that I just don't think they'll go away.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll stay in it and see what happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that first quarter is everything because this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be juiced up. But I would say this having

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Speaker 2: played in stadiums where we were the favorite team playing

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Speaker 2: at home. If that thing is not an avalanche early,

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Speaker 2: it flips and the pressure becomes more on you because

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Speaker 2: the anks that you feel from the stands, and so

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Speaker 2: that first quarter is everything in terms of establishing how

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Speaker 2: the game is gonna be played.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, man, this is fun. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys hanging with us. We will be back later. In

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Speaker 1: the week with another episode, we'll figure out which position

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Speaker 1: we're going to next. We we might I think we

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Speaker 1: do wide receivers. Let's stay on offense. We'll do wide

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Speaker 1: outs the next episode, so be on the lookout for

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Speaker 1: that one. We'll continue that series as well as the

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Speaker 1: Hits and Missus series as we march through the summer,

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Speaker 1: then head towards the twenty twenty three NFL season. We'll

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Speaker 1: see next time right here on. Move this there,