WEBVTT - An Indecent Proposal with Chelsea + Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Catherine, it's chilly Chelsea. Hi, yye hi Hi, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, just got back from a weekend in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>with all of my in laws and my folks and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also peaceful because I like gave myself time away.

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<v Speaker 2>I like let Brad and his family have their time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I gave you know, myself some decompression time and

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<v Speaker 2>it was peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>Love. Well, good for you for going to Phoenix. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>yeah for congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>It was actually the weather was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like Sally Sonny beautiful, like not a hot

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<v Speaker 2>day in sight.

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<v Speaker 3>It was perfection.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a show in Maracopa, Arizona, so oh yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I will be in Arizona at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon, hopefully before the hot weather comes.

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<v Speaker 4>You could buy those tickets at Chelseahandler dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't exactly an update, but this is just a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet letter that we got from a listener that I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was really great because we've been getting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of emails about book lists and book recommendations and all

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<v Speaker 2>that good stuff. So Crystal says to your Chelsea, not

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<v Speaker 2>needing advice today, but just wanted to write and say

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<v Speaker 2>that you inspired me to start reading. I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>a big reader, but because I knew it was important,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always read to my children every day from the

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<v Speaker 2>day they were born. My daughter is now nine and

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<v Speaker 2>reads books on her own before bed each night. I

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted them to love reading, because I always wished

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<v Speaker 2>that I did.

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<v Speaker 3>But you and.

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine are always talking about different books and how wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>they are, and how people aren't doing it as much anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that, coupled with the fact that I basically

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<v Speaker 2>trained my daughter to love reading, inspired me to try again.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my first books was one of Chelsea's, about

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, and from there I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just haven't stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah I know, I'm really enjoying it and actually feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that it has enriched my life in ways I wasn't expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>I get so much joy out of such little effort.

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<v Speaker 2>I must stay at home mom of ten years, and

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<v Speaker 2>these four walls get so small after a while. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a gift to be able to escape in a healthy way.

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<v Speaker 2>So all this is to say thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for sharing books you're reading, sharing your passionate about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and reminding us just how important it is with.

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<v Speaker 3>Love a crystal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love I love it. I love it. Reading is

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<v Speaker 4>a gift. We're so lucky to be able to like

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<v Speaker 4>get free entertainment. I mean, they're not free books, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's cheap entertainment the library, they are, yeah, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you can check them out at the library.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to check out books at the library with

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<v Speaker 1>my mom.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd go to the library and Martha's Vineyard and I

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<v Speaker 4>would get six books and she would get six books.

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<v Speaker 4>And we would just always like I would read six

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<v Speaker 4>books at a time and she would and they were

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<v Speaker 4>all like choose your own adventures, you know, like stupid

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<v Speaker 4>shit when I was young, but I just loved the

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<v Speaker 4>putting down a book, going to the next one. And

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<v Speaker 4>now the girls, Katie and Jesse, my two sixteen year

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<v Speaker 4>old popsy twins, they are reading like crazy. Like Katie

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<v Speaker 4>spent the weekend and she was up to like two

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning reading her book, and I'm like yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I met them, they didn't even read books.

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<v Speaker 4>They were like, what we're not reading? And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Yeah, it's so. It makes your vocabulary bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes you smarter. It helps you're spelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of staying up late reading, I once was watching

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<v Speaker 2>my nieces and my one niece was probably like eleven

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<v Speaker 2>or twelve, and she had gotten into the Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 2>books and it was just me with my two nieces.

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<v Speaker 2>My knew this is a school day, and my niece

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<v Speaker 2>now is that I love reading?

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<v Speaker 3>She goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up at one in the morning and started

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<v Speaker 2>reading my book and I never stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been awake since one of the morning reading And

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, oh, how cute?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that so cute?

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, you're about to have the most

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<v Speaker 2>miserable day ever because you're gonna fall asleep in class.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was pretty crabby and we had a little

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<v Speaker 3>early bedtime that night. But I was like, that's very sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe maybe we don't do that again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there a specific book.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you said she's your own adventure books, but

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<v Speaker 2>was there a specific book that you really.

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<v Speaker 3>Like got you into reading as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>No, all the books. I read everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I read serious books when I was little,

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<v Speaker 4>my dad forced me. And then when I had my own,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, I could read what I wanted Beverly

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<v Speaker 4>Cleary and like you know, Judy Bloom and all that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Sweet Valley High.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite, and then a lot to choose

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<v Speaker 1>your own adventures.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just go through them like any kid and

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<v Speaker 4>go to the War the first, go to page twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I would go back and go to page thirty five,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I just love that.

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<v Speaker 3>There is nothing more fun than those.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I guess they have them for adults,

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<v Speaker 1>but they I think they do.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think that that I'm that interested in

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<v Speaker 4>that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we jump into some questions, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, let's do it. We have a one on one

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<v Speaker 4>episode today.

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<v Speaker 3>We sure do.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this one is a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>complicated one, Sarah says, Dear Chelsea, My family and I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to a new neighborhood about six months ago. It's quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>clean and has lots of families with young children, including

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<v Speaker 2>my own. Shortly after moving in, we discovered that our

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<v Speaker 2>next door neighbor has an adult daughter who does not

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<v Speaker 2>live at the house, but is likely living out of

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<v Speaker 2>her beat up car, which she likes to part in

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<v Speaker 2>front of her mom's house. She shows up for a

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<v Speaker 2>few days at a time, leaves for a few days,

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<v Speaker 2>and then comes back. She often gets loaded and then

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<v Speaker 2>passes out in her car for hours in broad daylight.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes she's just in her car by herself or with others,

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<v Speaker 2>doing tweaker things like looking for things on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever her daughter is brought up in conversation, the neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>dismisses it and says she just comes around from time

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<v Speaker 2>to time to use my swimming pool, and the neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really seem interested in talking about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>My neighbor's boyfriend shared a little more once and said

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<v Speaker 2>the daughter is cut off and not allowed to enter

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<v Speaker 2>their home. However, it's apparent that they aren't doing anything

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<v Speaker 2>about their doing drugs and passing out in the car

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<v Speaker 2>in front of their house.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel for my neighbor mother to mother.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me wonder if she feels more comfortable knowing

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<v Speaker 2>where her daughter is and having her parked out front

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<v Speaker 2>rather than quote on the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's my dilemma. I couldn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Less what her daughter does with her life or her

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with her mother, But I don't want my children

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<v Speaker 2>seeing her doing drugs or being passed out in her

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<v Speaker 2>car for hours while they play in the front yard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also quite a nice or to have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tweaker hanging out in her beat up with broken windows

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<v Speaker 2>every time I look out while doing my dishes. Should

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<v Speaker 2>I try and have another conversation with her mom? How

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<v Speaker 2>do I approach this with her? Deep down, I really

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<v Speaker 2>want to just call the cops or knock on her

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<v Speaker 2>car window and tell her to leave, but she's technically

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<v Speaker 2>not on my property and I don't want to negatively

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<v Speaker 2>impact my relationship with my neighbor. Your advice on how

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<v Speaker 2>to handle this would be greatly appreciated, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, honestly, it's none of your fucking business,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's not she's not on your property. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>as a parent, obviously her mother isn't psyched about that either,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think you can relate that you would rather

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<v Speaker 4>have your daughter in front of your house doing drugs

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<v Speaker 4>than god knows where, and it's not your property, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have nothing to say about the matter. And sorry

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<v Speaker 4>that it's an eyesore, but there's nothing for you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not your business.

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<v Speaker 2>And I honestly think like your kids are small. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you tell them like, oh, she's taking

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<v Speaker 2>a nap, Like, I think that's probably all the explanation

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<v Speaker 2>that they need at this time. And like when they're

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, they'll, you know, remember this lady and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Or they won't remember anything about it, you know, right,

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<v Speaker 4>or they won't and it's not Yeah, and your kids

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<v Speaker 4>aren't gonna like that's like saying, oh, I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>my children exposed to transgender kids because they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>become trans just because there's some woman tweaking out in

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<v Speaker 4>a car. At least she's not on your property, she's

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<v Speaker 4>not talking to your children. Yeah, you're really reaching to

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<v Speaker 4>think that you have a say in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I know people get really bent out of

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<v Speaker 2>shape about like, oh, someone's parked in from my house. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see it from my house. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a family across the street that has a

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<v Speaker 2>really complicated thing going on, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a moment where you need to dig deep and reach

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<v Speaker 2>out with kindness. Yes, you know, maybe it's even like

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<v Speaker 2>make a sandwich and like if she's asleep, leave it

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<v Speaker 2>on her car, or like knock on the window. If

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<v Speaker 2>she's awake and like hand her a sandwich or bring

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<v Speaker 2>her lunch, like when you see her out there, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's obviously going through a really tough time. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>calling the cops is not a solution for drug addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>That is actually nice. It's like take your contempt and

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<v Speaker 4>turn it upside down into kindness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think try and find ways where you can

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<v Speaker 3>meet this with kindness and giving and understand that like

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<v Speaker 3>this is more complicated. They're just like having a shitty

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<v Speaker 3>view at your window. So and also, like things do

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<v Speaker 3>come to an end, so this will this will go

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<v Speaker 3>one way or another.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously we hope that she gets help, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the family is doing the best they can, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, calling the police is definitely going to fracture

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<v Speaker 4>your relationship with your neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can say goodbye to that if you do that, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It will also probably not be a solution.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up, well, this isn't this isn't exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's slightly analogous. Where I grew up with my

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<v Speaker 4>dad had all these used cars in our driveway all

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and it looked like you know, the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like Sandford and Son in our neighborhood. And

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<v Speaker 4>we were like in a nice middle class, upper middle

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<v Speaker 4>class neighborhood in New Jersey, and our neighbors always called

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<v Speaker 4>the police on.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad because of the cars.

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<v Speaker 4>And it just made me, even to this day, not

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<v Speaker 4>like my neighbors, you know, because we became like the

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<v Speaker 4>eyesore of the neighborhood. And I didn't like my house either.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't happy about it either, but seeing my father,

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<v Speaker 4>like seeing us kind of like my father attacked and

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<v Speaker 4>people call, it's just embarrassing, and it's like, it's that's

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<v Speaker 4>not we're putting out love. That's just putting out disdain,

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<v Speaker 4>especially because you don't like something in your view and

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<v Speaker 4>like your eyeline.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's silly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, So I think let's try and meet this with.

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<v Speaker 2>A little love and a little understanding and give us

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<v Speaker 2>an update if there is a change or if you

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<v Speaker 2>do decide to try that, and let us know kind

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<v Speaker 2>of how that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're back, so let's talk to our first caller.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got some cuties today.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky is calling in and she's got a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a doozy here. So Vicky says, dear Chelsea, it's one am.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to get up for work in five hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't sleep so angry, and I need your advice.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple days ago, one of the owners of my

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<v Speaker 2>company offered to pay me two thousand dollars to have

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<v Speaker 2>sex with him. I worked for a roofing company doing admin.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been there for seven months. I was determined to

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<v Speaker 2>show this new group of blue collar guys just how organized,

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<v Speaker 2>detail oriented and smart a girl like me could be.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I got two raises in the first six months and

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas bonus. I attended the company Christmas party alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I rented a dress and felt like a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>That night, I noticed one of the owners sent me

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<v Speaker 3>a message on LinkedIn at one forty that seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>a typo. Then he started testing the waters. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>was flattered that my boss was paying attention to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, he said he wanted to ask me something and

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to switch to text, so I gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Him my cell number.

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<v Speaker 2>He started by saying how good I looked at the party,

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<v Speaker 2>but pretty quickly explained that he was interested in paying

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<v Speaker 2>me two thousand dollars a pop to bang me. I

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<v Speaker 2>told him thanks, eye roll. My first reaction was to

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful, ugh, but no thanks. He then offered to

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<v Speaker 2>pay me for my silence. I assured him I would

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<v Speaker 2>never tell and didn't want any money. He asked me

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<v Speaker 2>to delete the text, but I kept them. I was

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<v Speaker 2>scared there would be retaliation because I turned him down.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing has happened since then. Now that I've had time

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<v Speaker 2>to process the severity of what happened, I'm just mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make a scene in front of everyone

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<v Speaker 2>at the company and call this bastard out and leave.

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<v Speaker 2>What should I do? My heart is broken. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I'd found a new family and a new job. Sincerely,

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky and Vicky, I know some stuff has sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like come out a little bit since you wrote in

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<v Speaker 2>as well, right with like other.

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<v Speaker 1>Cares, I've got some updates, Hi, Vicky.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, So I did go forward with my information to

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<v Speaker 5>the COO, and they the disciplinary action that happened was

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<v Speaker 5>that this man was told that he can only work remotely. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, everything was documented they said they were shocked,

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<v Speaker 5>they couldn't believe it, which I don't believe that they're

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<v Speaker 5>shocked at all. Anyway, they I thought, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>this had happened to somebody else, But they made me

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<v Speaker 5>sign this paper that said that I wouldn't talk about

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<v Speaker 5>it to preserve the culture, which is obviously amazing at

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<v Speaker 5>the company I work for. So I'm not supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about it with other people or the disciplinary action

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<v Speaker 5>or why this guy doesn't come into the office anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did talk to somebody and I asked them,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought maybe she had a similar experience, and she had.

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<v Speaker 5>She's twenty four, she was young, and he actually grabbed

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<v Speaker 5>her butt and told her he would pay her twice

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<v Speaker 5>as much as she was making to be his becking

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<v Speaker 5>call girl, you know, and like meet him wherever for sex.

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<v Speaker 5>And she said no.

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<v Speaker 3>She still worked for the.

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<v Speaker 5>Company, and she was crying when she told me. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was just like furious, because you know, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably a lot of women that have dealt with

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<v Speaker 5>this and stayed silent because she was scared she wouldn't,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they wouldn't believe her, and you know, who

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<v Speaker 5>is she to make these accusations, so she never came forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And would she be willing to come forward?

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<v Speaker 5>Now I didn't ask her, but she did thank me

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<v Speaker 5>for coming forward. And that's kind of where we left at.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she would Listen, you signed something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know how binding all of that shit is,

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<v Speaker 4>because also there's new information. Now you're not just talking

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<v Speaker 4>about yourself, you're talking about that it's happened to other women.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's an owner of this company. What kind of

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<v Speaker 4>company is it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a construction company, so there's two original owners, but

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<v Speaker 5>they've been bought out by a private equity group, so

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<v Speaker 5>they have some ownership still.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like a mid size company, so like not

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<v Speaker 2>something tiny, not something some giant corporation.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and so your human resources department that's part

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<v Speaker 4>of the private equity human resources.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we don't have a human resource department that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well that's the first problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would, I would go back and go I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've learned that there are more than one person

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<v Speaker 4>without mentioning anyone's names without their permission, but that there's

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<v Speaker 4>more than one person that this happened to. And now

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<v Speaker 4>this is a different set of circumstances. So I want

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<v Speaker 4>to know what you're going to do because being working

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<v Speaker 4>him working remotely is inacceptable. Like this is now a

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<v Speaker 4>pattern of behavior, and these women are we're talking about

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<v Speaker 4>all coming forward. So what are you going to do

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<v Speaker 4>to prevent this from happening? Because he needs to be removed.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not something that you work around. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't think you could ever sit around. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he's just going to do it again to someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and it definitely has been.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are worried at all, you could say, like

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<v Speaker 2>she came to me, That's how I found out about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to reveal who.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but like this seems to me like something

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<v Speaker 2>they know is happening and is a pattern of behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>like they already I would imagine knew about this before you,

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<v Speaker 2>because this doesn't sound like his first if he immediately

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, can I pay you to be silent?

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<v Speaker 3>Like he he.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows how this goes, he knows what is going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen next, And I know you need the job and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that they didn't even offer you anything

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<v Speaker 2>for your silence, They just were like, hey, sign this

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<v Speaker 2>that honestly makes me kind of pissed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think it's that legally binding, Like no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just about not talking to coworkers, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not you know.

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<v Speaker 5>They also had told me in a verbal conversation that

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<v Speaker 5>I was getting a fat raise this year, and then

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<v Speaker 5>after that was before this happened, and then after it happened,

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<v Speaker 5>my fat raise was three thousand dollars, so it came

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<v Speaker 5>out to ten dollars a week on a paycheck after

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<v Speaker 5>my taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>So not that bad.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's not what I don't think they would

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<v Speaker 5>consider it fat.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I will also say I talked to an attorney and

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<v Speaker 2>they said she needs to talk to a lawyer. So

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<v Speaker 2>keep documents of everything, keep records of everything. But you

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<v Speaker 2>should probably go see it an attorney as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm definitely going to. I think it's just I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's my responsibility as a woman raised by Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 5>to you know, to speak up for other women. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, we've all had it, Like it's enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they've been getting away with this behavior and enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna just I'm not going to live in

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<v Speaker 5>a world where I don't have a voice, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I have a lot to offer and I want

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<v Speaker 5>to be rewarded for that in the workplace, and I

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<v Speaker 5>want to have a safe work environment for myself and

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<v Speaker 5>for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, Good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I love everything you're saying, and you're right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some people are not as strong as you, and sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>like I feel very responsible for being a strong, strong

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<v Speaker 4>woman for all the other women that aren't going to

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<v Speaker 4>be strong, like I'm standing up for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I think you're the same.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that you just take that with you

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<v Speaker 4>in every step you take in this arena, because they

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<v Speaker 4>need to get rid of him. He doesn't get to

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<v Speaker 4>be an owner and offer people two thousand first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand dollars for sex is insulting, Like, I know, excuse.

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<v Speaker 5>Me, I know, Demi Moore got a million and Robert Redford,

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<v Speaker 5>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Does this guy look like Robert Redford?

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<v Speaker 2>Because hey, well no, I think the thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been more also offended by is like, wait, you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to other people about.

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<v Speaker 3>This too, You're trying to do other people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, just be ah are for women, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just keep that in your mind and please don't like

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<v Speaker 4>let this go.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on it. Give us updates, please do we would.

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<v Speaker 5>Like to hear take care, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I talked to a lawyer and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>sue the shit out of them, Like she needs to

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<v Speaker 3>sue them. That's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love the psychology of thinking about how men

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<v Speaker 4>in this day and age still are thinking that they

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<v Speaker 4>can get away with shit like that because they can.

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<v Speaker 1>They can in all walks of life. They still get

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<v Speaker 1>away with it.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're like, excuse me, you cannot offer to have

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<v Speaker 4>sex pay money to have sex with me as an.

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<v Speaker 3>Employee at your work.

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<v Speaker 4>Please go do that with someone on the street or

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<v Speaker 4>some woman you meet.

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<v Speaker 3>Somewhere else who is a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite part, though, is like, who is trying to

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<v Speaker 3>hit on their coworkers through LinkedIn? Like what a total lamo?

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought that was so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that goes hand in hand with offering

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<v Speaker 4>someone two thousand to have sex, right, step it up,

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<v Speaker 4>hitting on someone on LinkedIn using that as a rayah

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<v Speaker 4>and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, Well our next caller, Stephanie has gotten sober

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<v Speaker 2>and has some questions about dealing with past mistakes. Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been personally struggling with grieving the past and honoring

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<v Speaker 2>my sobriety. In January, I recently hit a year, but

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<v Speaker 2>the emotions make me feel like I'm still in month four.

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<v Speaker 2>A few years ago, I was a real jerk to

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones and friends around me and didn't realize I

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<v Speaker 2>was inflicting pain on others due to my trauma responses.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in emotionally abusive relationships and haven't fully dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with a sexual assault when I was fourteen, which I've

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<v Speaker 2>discovered in therapy led me.

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<v Speaker 3>To drinking pretty young.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, I guess in this area, I struggle with self

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<v Speaker 2>forgiveness looking back. Being on medication and quitting drinking alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago has led me to uncork the bottled

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<v Speaker 2>up feelings pun very much intended for context. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so hammered once at a friend's engagement party that the

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<v Speaker 2>hangover lasted three whole days, and I have never even

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to smell alcohol wine specifically, since then. I find

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<v Speaker 2>it hard to push past how heavy these emotions are,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much time has passed. In terms of

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<v Speaker 2>grieving all of the past. Do you have any tips

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<v Speaker 2>that don't require me sitting down and meditating with the thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I am insanely hyperactive and have a difficult time sitting still,

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<v Speaker 2>but find hands on and movement type of activities can

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<v Speaker 2>be helpful. Yes, I have ADHD. I lost certain friendships

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<v Speaker 2>when I decided to get sober as well. To throw

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<v Speaker 2>even more of a curveball, I stopped smoking weed and

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<v Speaker 2>taking edibles for the time being, because I was also

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<v Speaker 2>using that as a major coping mechanism. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>experience the stages of grief and do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>tips for getting through them?

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<v Speaker 3>All the best stuff? Hi staff, high staff.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, good for you for getting sober and for quitting

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<v Speaker 4>weed and using all of kit taking away all of

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<v Speaker 4>your aids.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks. That's tough.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been one of those journeys where I'll just be

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<v Speaker 6>like really deep and thought about something and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I could go back to that whatever I was doing prior,

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<v Speaker 6>But then in the moment I'm like, okay, well let's

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<v Speaker 6>let's get this all focused and focus on the breathing

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<v Speaker 6>and all that. So it's been pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean listen, your vehemence against and meditation leads me

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<v Speaker 4>to believe that you would probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Benefit the most from it.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone who really doesn't want to do something like that

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<v Speaker 4>that is always beneficial, that has scientifically proven to work,

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<v Speaker 4>I think would be a great tool for you because

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<v Speaker 4>of your adamance against it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's that is one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But like the fact that you're already kind of on

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<v Speaker 4>your way to that, and and you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about meditation a lot on this podcast, but it really

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<v Speaker 4>is about centering yourself, setting yourself up for success each day.

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<v Speaker 1>Each day you're like, this is great. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>crush it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be balanced, centered, non reactive, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to use the tools that I have, whether they

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<v Speaker 4>being like positive affirmations in the morning, waking up and

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<v Speaker 4>being like I wake up every morning and I look

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<v Speaker 4>in the mirror and I'm like, look at you. You're

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<v Speaker 4>a cutie pie, and look what you're gonna do today.

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 4>Like I literally talk to myself like that because I

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<v Speaker 4>want to be in playful mode as much as possible, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. I don't want to be stressed

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<v Speaker 1>or reactive or get upset. I don't want to be angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lose my temper.

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<v Speaker 4>So we all have our kind of shortcomings that we're

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<v Speaker 4>working against, right Like, whatever our personality attributes are or

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.160
<v Speaker 4>defaults are. And I think that you're already, like you've

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<v Speaker 4>done so much stuff to better yourself, there's really no

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<v Speaker 4>stopping you now. So it's kind of whatever you decide

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<v Speaker 4>is going to set you up each day and to understand,

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<v Speaker 4>like one of the greatest things about about meditation is

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<v Speaker 4>sitting still and just letting emotions move through you. And

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<v Speaker 4>you don't necessarily have to do a mantra or something

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<v Speaker 4>like I do a mantra every day with whatever guided

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<v Speaker 4>meditation I do, and I don't do it every day,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, every single day, But you can do that

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<v Speaker 4>without out, without the guided meditation, you could just sit

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 4>and be like, this is me today, this is what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna drink, I'm not gonna smoke,

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be in my body. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>experience my grief, but nothing is going to consume me,

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 4>you know. So it's kind of just like writing a

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<v Speaker 4>love letter to yourself and then honoring that each day

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<v Speaker 4>when you wake up and being like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 4>who I am, and this is who I want to be,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the past is the past.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't worry about that because you're correcting so many things

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<v Speaker 4>and moving into your future with such love and light.

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<v Speaker 1>Just add to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything you choose to do, whether it's a mantra, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's positive affirmations, whether it's writing down making a gratitude

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<v Speaker 4>journal each day, or whether it's silent meditation, group meditation,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, whatever it is that you click with, you

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<v Speaker 4>should try and exhaust all of those things. Like try

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<v Speaker 4>something for two weeks and then if you're like it's

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<v Speaker 4>not working, okay, fine, but you'll be surprised what will

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<v Speaker 4>work for you when you're of present mind and you're open, yeah, helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you doing any kind of like twelve step

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<v Speaker 2>anything anything like that, or you were just like, I

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<v Speaker 2>never want to drink again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so I kind of made that decision. I had

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<v Speaker 6>my friend's engagement party and I got so hammered. It

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<v Speaker 6>lasted three days. My hangover it was terrible. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it was also bad wine, But I digress, and I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of just woke up like after that weekend and

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<v Speaker 6>being like, I never even want to smell this ever again,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even want to I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 6>look at it. So I'm not in any program. However,

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<v Speaker 6>a friend of mine who both of our one year

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<v Speaker 6>dates are kind of around the same time, she actually

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<v Speaker 6>co founded this organization called ap Sober Socials. They're based

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<v Speaker 6>in Asbury Park, New Jersey, but they have a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, activities for people who are looking to

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<v Speaker 6>have a community and you know, support the poetry readings.

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<v Speaker 6>They did karaoke a few times at one of the

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<v Speaker 6>vegan spots over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh vegan karaoke.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's such a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine being in sofer karaoke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what Chelsea was saying as far as like meditation

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<v Speaker 2>and having a mantra, I love that. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>are finding you can't you know, still still can't focus,

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you might try adding some movement in with that. So

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<v Speaker 2>adding in some yoga, which is very meditative, but like

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<v Speaker 2>having a mantra while you're doing that, I think can

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<v Speaker 2>help get some of it out of your like the

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<v Speaker 2>guilt feelings out of your body.

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<v Speaker 3>And then also I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just thinking, this feels like maybe something to journal

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<v Speaker 2>about too. I don't know if you do any journaling,

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<v Speaker 2>but just being like curious with yourself about like why

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<v Speaker 2>do I have these sort of like cyclical thoughts about

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<v Speaker 2>guilt around this or any other specific times, and doing

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<v Speaker 2>some journaling around that, and then once you've sort of

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<v Speaker 2>examined that for yourself, maybe writing a letter just so

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<v Speaker 2>you can be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, hey, I messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you getting it out to them, and even

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<v Speaker 2>if you get no response, you'll know like your side

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<v Speaker 2>of the street is clean, and just like finding ways

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<v Speaker 2>to get that sort of outside of you. But it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like you're doing some a lot of active things

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<v Speaker 2>and putting community around you, which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I also I do the aerial arts, so like poll

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff. And also that's become like such a stable

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<v Speaker 6>ground for me just kind of like you know, working

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<v Speaker 6>on new moves and like challenging myself. And there's a

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<v Speaker 6>whole like neurological thing about it where like you know,

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 6>it can open up different neuropathways and like your brain

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff, and just like putting yourself in situations that

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<v Speaker 6>you normally wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Good that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I also like to think in terms of like self

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<v Speaker 4>help and betterment. I like to think of it as

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<v Speaker 4>like a positive pyramid scheme, Like you're you're piling in like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you go to therapy, you quit drinking, you go to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you quit your smoking weed, and you do

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<v Speaker 4>all these good things for yourself. You're doing this it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of exercise and like kind of spiritual exercise in

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<v Speaker 4>your explanation of it, And you're piling all these things

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<v Speaker 4>on to like think of a blanket and you're just

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<v Speaker 4>piling them all on. You're basically like building this kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like protective.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting around yourself, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So like the more that you can add to that pile,

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<v Speaker 4>like Okay, this brings me joy, this brings me calm,

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<v Speaker 4>This brings me comfort and clarity, like the more that

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<v Speaker 4>you are protecting your like kind of soul and your

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<v Speaker 4>and your person. And instead of thinking of it as

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<v Speaker 4>like a defense, I think of it as like just armor,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like very protective armor, so that you are

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<v Speaker 4>always protected by yourself. And so whenever I think of like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh okay, I'm going to add this to my repertoire.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do this journaling for a month or whatever,

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 4>I decide to do. I always think of like this

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<v Speaker 4>blanket where I'm just putting more and more goodness on it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, so that that is my comfort zone. And

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm in that blanket surrounded by all of the tools

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<v Speaker 4>that I've learned. So I think if you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like picture that and whatever that means for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but just think of that like self preservation, self protection

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<v Speaker 4>in a positive way, not in a defensive way.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, do you find that because I know some people

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'll post those like thirty day like journaling challenges,

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<v Speaker 6>is that it's on a specific prompt and then you

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<v Speaker 6>know each time you're like diving deeper, do you find

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<v Speaker 6>those to be helpful or do you kind of just

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<v Speaker 6>go based off of how you're feeling and kind of

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<v Speaker 6>go from there, Because I feel like for me, there's

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<v Speaker 6>like so many different thoughts going at once, so like

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<v Speaker 6>in order to like focus on one specific area, I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like I would need a prompt.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just curious.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I think whatever I think, it doesn't matter,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, as long as you're putting

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<v Speaker 4>effort toward yourself and healing yourself, and like, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>matter what it is. Yes, for you with ADHD, a

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<v Speaker 4>prompt would be good. And I think you'll be very

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<v Speaker 4>surprised from meditating. I had bad ADD before I meditated.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I have ADHD. I have ADD, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I can focus so easily now, like the

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 4>benefits you reap from it, you are not even like

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 4>you don't even know what they are yet. So I

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 4>just wouldn't ever say, like dismiss something, you know, like yes,

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 4>go journal and get a prompt if that's going to

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 4>help you focus. But all of these exercises are going

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 4>to help in your focus in general. They're going to

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<v Speaker 4>make you be able to pay more attention for longer

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>periods of time. And it's just they're all training exercises

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<v Speaker 4>for the brain, and it's an act of self love,

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 4>all all of it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I found that as well, is when I'm meditating

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<v Speaker 3>really regularly, my attention span just like gets a lot

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<v Speaker 3>longer and it really helps with my ADHD as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think try those prompts. I think that'd

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.199
<v Speaker 2>be amazing. And also when you are meditating, you know,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>have a mantra or do like breath counts. For me,

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it helps keep my mind from wandering off. It's just

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>being able to you know, doing one to ten, doing

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>box breathing. You know, there's a ton of different ways

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>to do breath counts.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, is that helpful?

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, Well, congrats on everything you've accomplished. I'm proud

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of you, even though I don't know you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Thanks stuff, keep us posted, check in with

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<v Speaker 3>us in thirty days. Okay, alrighty, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye, take care, Hi, Cuty.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's so interesting with like how you were

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>saying your attention span gets longer or it's like help

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>with your add It's weird how how that can help.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because you think add. Yeah, no, you have control

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 4>over your ADD. I didn't learn that until I started meditating.

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's such a relief.

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<v Speaker 4>I even, like, you know, even being here is meditative

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 4>for me because I have so much other stuff going on.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm skiing, I'm not on my phone, I'm not on

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<v Speaker 4>socials nearly as much.

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<v Speaker 1>I barely check anything.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I saw, my screen time last week was

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<v Speaker 4>like down forty seven percent. Each week it's down another

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I'm like, oh, awesome, awesome, awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to be someone who's sitting

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>here tied to my phone. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's different because I'm in Whistler, so I

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 4>have skiing and I have guests all the time. It's

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 4>different than being at home in La, where I'm you.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Know, more prone to be like looking at my.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think you're busy, so you're like, okay, got

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>to turn my brain off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, But it's it's nice to not be so

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 4>reliant on your It's nice to not check it or

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 4>be obsessed or look at your you know, be obsessed

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 4>with how many how you're posted.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's nice to like let all that go.

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<v Speaker 1>Not controlling the.

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<v Speaker 4>Outcome of things is like my my thing this season.

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<v Speaker 4>Just don't try to control the outcome of things. Let

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<v Speaker 4>everything happen the way it's supposed to happen. Instead of

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<v Speaker 4>inserting myself and being like, no, I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 4>this happen. It's like, no, no, I don't need to

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 4>make anything happen. I've made enough happen. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to sit back and enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 2>My my thing that I've been sort of focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>lately is just like taking a beat before making a

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<v Speaker 2>decision on something or even responding.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I realize like if I just like give it

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<v Speaker 3>a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days, I find I realize new things about the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also find like I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>As activated by it, so I can sort of think

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<v Speaker 2>more clearly about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And oftentimes I find like I actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need to have any drama around that or even

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 2>confront something or it's usually little stuff, but yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>finding that to be really helpful is just being like,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I just don't try to fix this right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and also not reacting to things like sometimes something

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<v Speaker 4>will happen and I'm like, I don't like that, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it's like, who cares, It doesn't matter if I

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 4>don't like it, it doesn't matter. Just move on, Like, don't focus.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to address every single thing I don't like.

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 3>And it just is like it's nice to let yourself

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<v Speaker 3>off the hook that you don't have to fix everything,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to deal with everything, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's more relaxing.

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<v Speaker 2>Our last question comes from Melina. She's twenty eight. Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Melina. I'm twenty eight Indigenous Navajo, transfeminine, bisexual, single,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love a Long Island iced tea. Lately, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been having an issue with one of my two older sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the youngest. She's always been a bit troubled. She's

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<v Speaker 2>matured and has come to find herself in a place

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<v Speaker 2>of healing from alcoholism and is now staying in the

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<v Speaker 2>same city as me. Although I'm very happy for her,

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<v Speaker 2>we were never very close growing up, and we'd have

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<v Speaker 2>moments where it felt like we would bond, but something

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<v Speaker 2>would uproot it. I became independent and found success in

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>my own way. I live alone, I work, I've found friends,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I have a chosen family, and despite having a bit

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of a problem with alcohol, I'm overall very happy. My

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<v Speaker 2>issue is this, my middle sister is starting to come

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<v Speaker 2>around and trying to care about me. I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely coming from a place of love and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>patch up our past, and while I'm not against that,

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't feel that I need it. I know

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<v Speaker 2>how to take care of myself. She wants me to

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<v Speaker 2>spill all my feelings and lean on her any chance

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<v Speaker 2>I can, and it annoys me because in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of my head I want to tell her I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need an older sister now. I needed one back then.

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<v Speaker 2>She and I don't have bad blood and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>harbor resentment for any of the past things. Besides, when

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<v Speaker 2>she tries to do this, I appreciate it, but at

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<v Speaker 2>times it feels pushy and intrusive. Am I inconsiderate for

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<v Speaker 2>not wanting to let her in. I express myself emotionally

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people, but for some reason, she

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<v Speaker 2>feels more like a stranger than most. Please let me

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<v Speaker 2>know your thoughts. I love you your mindset, your comedy,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>your work ethic, and your overall attitude on life. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for any advice. Molina.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, Melina.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly, what I'm hearing from you is that you're

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<v Speaker 4>holding a grudge against your sister. And listen, she might

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<v Speaker 4>be overstepping, but she at least she's trying to be

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<v Speaker 4>your sister now and you can't change the past. So

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 4>she didn't show up for you when you wanted her

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<v Speaker 4>to the most, but she's here now and that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like grudge holding isn't helpful. Even if you don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you're holding a grudge, I'm telling you that's what

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 4>you're doing. I needed her then, I don't need her

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<v Speaker 4>now is a grudge. So I think that you could

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<v Speaker 4>be a little bit more open hearted with her, and

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to let her be your confidant, but

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<v Speaker 4>you can meet her halfway and allow her to be

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<v Speaker 4>in your life in a loving way, like give back

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 4>the love that she's showing you. Even if it's pushy

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:59.239
<v Speaker 4>to you, just accept it more than reject it, you know,

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 4>just open it, like yourself to it. And you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how nice and helpful it can be at any time,

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 4>Like you might be going through something down the road

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 4>in two years and you're going to be so grateful

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 4>that you have your sister and that you have formed

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<v Speaker 4>this relationship and.

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<v Speaker 1>That she's there for you, or vice versa. She may

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>go through something and you're going to be there for her.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I just I'm always very adamant that you

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 4>should be as close to your sisters as possible.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>They're a gift. Having sisters is a gift.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes they're all fucking annoying on a certain level,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 4>but bigger than that is like the love and the

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<v Speaker 4>history and the memories that you share. You are the

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 4>only people that were raised by the same people. You

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 4>are the only people who understand what it was like

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 4>growing up in your household, and like that is a

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 4>very very special bond. And so I would say, you know,

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 4>forget about the past, just focus on what's happening right now.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 4>And she's trying to show up for you. Give her

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 4>a break a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talk a big game on this show specifically

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>about you know, if you're having trouble with a family

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>member and you might need to cut them out of

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>your life for a time. But like people can and

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>do change, and we hope they will in the future.

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is a moment where someone is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to show you that they have changed and is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be more open and you know, in a

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>way that feels safe with you. I think you absolutely

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>should try to have a relationship with her. It doesn't

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>have to be spilling all your guts, you know, keep

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 2>it light, keep it surface, especially in the beginning, until

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>you find out you know what works for you. She

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be your best friend, but if she's

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>someone that you go to coffee with a couple of

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>times a month or once a month, I think that

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that can be really enriching to both of your lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed with that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks Molina, keep us posted.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So we'll take a break to wrap up and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be right back. And we're back, okay with Chelsea

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<v Speaker 4>Handler and Catherine La Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'll give you a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do bad finances or sexual harassment bartender?

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 4>I'll take sexual harassment for five hundred please, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel is a bartender in the Midwest. Dear Chelsea, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty three year old bartender in Ohio. I live

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<v Speaker 2>in a small city and most of my patrons are men.

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<v Speaker 2>They range from early afternoon retirees to midday happy hour guys,

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>varying anywhere between blue collar workers to white collar lawyers

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>and bankers. Our evening crowd is younger than me and

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<v Speaker 2>most definitely upbeat. They are culturally opposite from the daytime

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>usuals in most aspects, from what they drink to how

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they tip, and what songs they play on the jukebox.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing remains pretty common. These Midwest men think

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 2>that telling women to smile and commenting on boob's body

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 2>clothing is friendly and flirty or worse flattering, they're commonly

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>explicitly sexist, and that makes my feminist.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Blood boil me too.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love my coworkers and bosses, so leaving isn't ideal.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>And I also assume, like anywhere else she goes, it's

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be the same thing. I have thick skin

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and can brush a lot off. Don't get me wrong,

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I speak my mind sometimes to a fault. My problem

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>is about income. My pay is almost totally tip based,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So how do I balance my inner go fuck yourself

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>and otherwise stand up for myself with the reality that

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm relying on mostly sexist men for the majority of

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>my income. How do I play nice enough to make

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>money and still keep my dignity. Most of my attempts

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 2>have left me with gaslighting or misplaced anger, which I

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>can handle, but the zero dollar tip on the line

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 2>that's hard to handle.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeking your input, Rachel.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about this a little bit a couple episodes ago,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 4>about framing the way that you talk to people who

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.240
<v Speaker 4>are disrespecting you or treating you in a sexist manner,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>and I think this is I was talking with my

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 4>girlfriends on the chair lift yesterday about it too, because

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 4>there is a way to talk to men without making

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 4>them defensive about what they're saying. There's a way to

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 4>be jocular about it, like to say, oh God.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the situation I'm in.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting here behind a bar, working for you, relying

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 4>on the money that you're gonna give me, and then

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 4>you just get to talk to me the way whatever

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 4>way you want.

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine what it's like to be a woman?

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Like there are playful ways to address what's happening to

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 4>you without it becoming a problem. Now, not every man

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 4>is going to be open to that conversation or enlightened

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 4>by that tone, but there are men, and I think

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 4>you can discern which men those are going to be.

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 4>Where it's worth it and where it's not worth it,

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Because it's not worth it for you to kind of

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 4>bite your tongue every single time you get sexually harassed

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 4>or dismissed as being like, you know, just being objectified

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. But I think it is worth it to

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 4>go at men a little bit in a way that

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 4>they can swallow, which is playful, kind of like, you know,

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 4>not so serious, not strident, not screaming, not yelling, but

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 4>just like, oh god, I wish you guys could feel

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 4>what it's like to be me for a day, can you?

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 4>You know, like really just playing with the idea. And

0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 4>that's not the only way to do it. There are

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 4>probably fifty other ways to do it. But so that

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 4>you don't feel like you didn't say anything, and you

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 4>also don't feel like it was fall it fell on

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 4>deaf ears. You want to feel like you said something,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 4>it mattered and you stood up for yourself. And you

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 4>can't control the outcome of that either, but at least

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 4>you're not rolling over.

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>If there's somebody who is being an ongoing problem. I

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 2>do love taking it from a perspective that's like not

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>just God, you're horrible, you know.

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 3>I think also, you know, waiting to say something until

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>after you close out their tib and get the tip.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I heard something the other day, and this was from

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 2>someone who I believe is like a stripper, but she said,

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if this is something that you

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>can pull off at your bar, like talk to management,

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 2>talk to the bouncers and things, but basically telling them like, hey,

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 2>we have an extra fee. Anytime there's a comment like that,

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>and it actually gets added to your bill, so like

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>keep them coming, and like anytime they make a comment

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>like that, a fifteen dollars, you know, fifteen bucks gets

0:39:58.719 --> 0:39:59.479
<v Speaker 2>added to their tab.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that's a good idea too.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Like basically there's a penalty for like talking like that

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and like feel free, go ahead, but every time you

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 2>make a comment or you know, talk about my boobs

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, fifteen bucks is getting added to your tab

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever price you decide could be a fun way

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>to handle it. And then you're sort of like reclaiming

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the power and they can stop or they can keep going,

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and then you just make a bunch of money.

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, good luck, Rachel, Well, Chelsea, Yes, yes, Catherine,

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 4>we really did it today.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>We really did.

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Lots of men behaving badly, very unusual, very such a shock,

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 3>such a shock.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you have a great day. Thanks guys. Okay, guy,

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So for stand up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm coming to Salt Lake City on April fourth, and

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm coming to Denver, Colorado, and April fifth. Tickets are

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<v Speaker 4>still available for those two. Maricopa, Arizona is April twelfth,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Brooks, California is April thirteenth. And we added

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<v Speaker 4>a second show in Sydney, and we added a second

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<v Speaker 4>show in Prior Lake, Minnesota, which is now going to

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<v Speaker 4>be May twenty fourth. We added the Santa Barbara Bowl,

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<v Speaker 4>which is so fun. I performed there last year. That's

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<v Speaker 4>August seventeenth, the Santa Barbara Bowl. We ended a second

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<v Speaker 4>show at Santa Rosa on August second, and we added

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<v Speaker 4>two dates at Hawaii. Guys, I'm coming to Hawaii on

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<v Speaker 4>July nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>To CA Who Louis.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be at CA Who Louis, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I'm coming on July twenty at to Honolulu. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just added another date on August first Auburn, Washington. So

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<v Speaker 4>and all my Australia and New Zealand dates are up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will be announcing a European tour shortly, so

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<v Speaker 4>I will be coming there. And I'm coming to Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two dates at Oklahoma May third, which is

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<v Speaker 4>my mother's birthday, Norman, Oklahoma, and May fourth, I will

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<v Speaker 4>be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Thackerville, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 4>So Oklahomians, Oklahomas, Oklahom's come bye.

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