WEBVTT - #355 Packers Unscripted: Miami musings 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.319 Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.919 I am Mike Spofford. He is wes Hodkuits. We're coming 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.880 to you here from our studios at lambeau Field West. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.400 It is Wednesday, and as we always say, on Wednesday, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.840 it's turned the page day. So we will start looking 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.519 ahead now to this upcoming Sunday home game for the 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.760 Packers at lambeau Field against the Miami Dolphins. Flex to 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.519 a three pm kickoff from originally a noon kickoff on 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.000 the the earlier schedule for those who weren't aware of that, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.800 but Miami Dolphins a f C East. As with all 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.280 a f C opponents, the Packers only see them once 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.600 every four years, so it's been a while and the 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.920 Dolphins haven't been the lambeau Field since two thousand and ten. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.720 And when you look at this two thousand eighteen version 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.039 of the Miami Dolphins, where do you start, Well, I 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.319 mean you would like to start with the quarterback position, 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.600 Ryan Tannehill coming back from the a C L but 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.760 then he suffers this capsule injury that appears to just 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.080 have him out indefinitely. At this point, there hasn't really 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.720 been given a strong timeline and when he could potentially 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.720 be back, and as of the time in which we're 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.480 shooting this, we don't know what they're they're gonna be 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.360 doing at Wednesday's practice. So that means Brock Osweidler has 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.960 become their starting quarterback. And certainly Osweiler has been through 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.880 a lot of ups and downs over the last couple 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.800 of seasons. I got the big contract with Houston, didn't 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.000 work out, gets his contract traded for a second round 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.920 pick along with the second round pick to Cleveland. Cleveland 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.720 cuts him, he goes to Denver in Willa, he's with 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.920 the Miami Dolphins. The thing though about Oswald that I've 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.120 been impressed with this season at this point is that 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.240 he has been protecting the football and he starts that 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.400 they've they've had him out there for it. As strange 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.400 as it sounds, Mike, this Dolphins team at five and four, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.320 I mean, they're not overly dynamic, but they found ways 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.120 to win ball games, and you have to tip your 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.280 cap to that. I also thought, considering how quick of 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.560 a start they got off too and then falling back 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.520 to three and three, have found a way to rally 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.520 and get some wins in recent weeks. Yeah, they're at 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.480 five and four right now and right in the thick 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.280 of the wild card hunt. Obviously, with three and oh start, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.600 they were hoping to be a little bit better than 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.040 five and four after nine games, but as you said, 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.320 kind of went through a rut. Now they rallied a 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.960 little bit. That victory they had down in Miami over 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.000 the Bears, a wild and crazy victory a few weeks ago. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.880 That was as Wilder's first start, I believe in place 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.359 of Tannehill, and uh, that was that was a big 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.720 one for them. They won last week against the New 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.040 York Jets, I believe. Now they've beaten the Jets twice, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.000 two of their five victories UM over the Jets. But 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.639 you said it with Osweiler, he's protected the football. Because 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.040 I got an interesting question in an Insider inbox with 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.120 all the talk about, hey, the Packers defense needs to 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:56.360 start getting turnovers, and a fan asked, well, maybe a 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.160 warm weather quarterback coming to Lambeau for a chili game 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.320 in November. Maybe that's a warrant. I should say, a 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:05.120 warm weather backup quarterback coming to Lambeau for a chili 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.680 November game. Maybe that'll get the Packers going with the 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:12.000 turnovers on defense. Well, Osweiler, he's only thrown three interceptions 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.720 this year, has not fumbled the ball, not just hasn't 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.160 lost a fumble, but hasn't fumbled it at all. And 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:21.160 I looked back at the sixteen box score when Oswader 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.520 was the starting quarterback for Houston. He came to lambeau Field. 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.640 Remember it was kind of a snowy like early December game, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.480 the type of game where you think warm weather team 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.840 is going to have some trouble. There was one turnover 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.720 early where the Texans, I believe it was their tight end, 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.560 fumbled the ball right in the beginning of the game. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.119 But Osweiler didn't throw a pick, didn't turn the ball 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.640 over in that game either, And the Packers didn't put 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.840 away that Texans team until the fourth quarter. So this 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.120 is a guy that yeah, yeah, it was. It was 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.720 snowy and wet and yeah, and there was some sleet. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.640 It was just it was a strange weather game, a 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.920 little chili in December. But but yeah, the Packers defense 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.760 needs to start taking the ball away. But to Oswiler 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.600 may not give them a lot of opportunities. If he 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.160 does give them one, they have to pounce on. Because 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.320 here's the other thing. Frank Gore's in that backfield, and 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.880 while he is thirty five years old right now, Frank 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.160 corp has actually had a pretty darn good season. I mean, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.240 he's kind of gotten the winning share of that uh, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.320 that committee approach that they're taking with him and Kenyan Drake. Uh, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.160 it's really interesting because he's not giving you the football either. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.880 So I think that's really been a big thing for 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.800 the Dolphins so far. You look at those two wins 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.400 that you mentioned over the Jets thirteen to nine and 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.320 twenty to twelve. You don't do that if you're turning 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.440 over the football and giving them favorable field position. So 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.200 Adam Gaze's guys have found a way to win. It's 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.160 a little bit different approach than they took last year, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.719 where it was Jake Cutler stepping in, and we obviously 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.240 know some of the takeaway in turnover issues they had 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.720 on that team. So yeah, it's gonna be incumbent on 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.880 the Packers to pressure Oswidler, assuming that's what the quarterback 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.520 is going to be, and not allow a guy like 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.560 Kenny Still's going either. Because Stills has been on sort 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.359 of this hot and cold stretch this year where he 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.880 has some really you know, dynamic downfield, big play games, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.040 and some other times where he's been taken away too. Yeah. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.320 Well you mentioned the ageless wonder Frank Gore in the backfield. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.640 Amazing what he's doing at that position at thirty five 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.640 years old. And just you talk about the wear and 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.599 tear on the tire, so to speak, it just seems 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.640 like Frank or puts a new set of tires on 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.400 every season because he just keeps going. He's leading these 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.120 guys in rushing. He's got over four yards on the ground. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:28.719 A complimentary back in Kent, is it, Kenyan Drake? Sorry, yeah, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.719 I got a little ahead of myself, um, Drake. There 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.760 he's averaging I think close to five yards to carry 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.960 as as sort of the complementary back to Frank Gore. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.520 And then you mentioned Stills. They lost Albert Wilson to injury. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.919 He was kind of their big play receiver, whether it 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.400 was Tannehill or Oswiler, so they've lost some of that 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.280 big playability. But Stills is a guy who can kind 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.039 of get hot, as you said, and and make some 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.840 big plays down the field. So there are some some 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.080 weapons here, some options for for Osweiler. They didn't have 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.400 a good game offensively last week against the Jets, but 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.920 I watched a good portion of that game they had 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.960 at home against Chicago because I believe that was the 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.080 week the Packers are playing on Monday night, so I 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.360 was home on a Sunday to watch other games, and uh, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.360 they moved the ball up and down the field against 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.120 that Bears defense. Khalil Mack wasn't playing, but that Bears 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.919 defense really struggle to stop them. Yeah, they did. You know. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.880 I wanted to mention to Danny Ammond. Dola has sort 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.479 of been the favorite target here the last few weeks 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.000 for Osweiler, not really the big play aspect of it, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.920 but being able to help them move the chains. But yeah, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.159 to your point, the Dolphins. The thing that's that's gonna 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.200 be interesting about them for the Packers perspective is there's 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:38.800 a lot of reasons why the Packers have to win 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.080 this game, but the biggest one is that if you 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.080 look back to the last month, the Dolphins have lost 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.880 to the Lions, They've lost to, uh, the the Bears. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.080 So I mean the Packers considering those a f C 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.000 as you mentioned those they beat the Bears put the 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.599 thirty one to twenty when over time. Yeah, So, I 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.159 mean with those type of opportunities we saw it before, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.000 We've talked about it with some of these other matchups 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.800 with the uncommon opponents. That's where ultimately you need to 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.240 win your games in your division, but you can also 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.839 pick up a lot of steam getting those victories as well. 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.720 So I'm interested to see how it plays out, because 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.120 I think, as I mentioned you on the show, I 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.800 believe it was yesterday the day before. This isn't Tom Brady, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.400 this isn't Jared Goff. You know it is brus brock Osweiler, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.160 And there's a reason why he came in the years 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.360 the back up to Tannehill. The Packers had some issues. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.280 When you go back to that game last month against C. J. Bethard, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.600 they have to take care of business against the quarterback 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.080 like this. If that ends up being what it is 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.880 on Sunday, well, I'm gonna take care of a little 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.200 sponsored business here West before it gets away from me. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.520 The powerful noise canceling technology that helps NFL coaches block 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.280 out eighty thousand screaming fans can get you closer to 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.760 the music you love. Learn more at www dot bos 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.480 dot com. Slash Packers Bows the official headphones of the 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.160 Green Bay Packers. Okay, shifting gears to the defensive side 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.680 of the ball for the Dolphins. You know what I 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.760 like to do when it comes to trying to figure 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.560 out a team's defense. I like to look at the 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.160 stat sheet and go, Okay, what are the numbers? Are 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.080 there any numbers, any stats that jump off the page 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.160 to me? With this team, fifteen interceptions in nine games 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.800 west not just games, as many interceptions as they have 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:24.000 sacks right now? Fifteen sacks, fifteen interceptions. Remarkable, Remarkable what 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.560 they've been able to do in terms of taken away 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.960 the football. Yeah, they have three players who have three 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.800 interceptions a piece on the season, a fourth player with 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.959 two interceptions. Now, it makes for an interesting matchup because 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.240 Aaron Rodgers has thrown only one pick all year? Am 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.520 I correct? Yeah? One interception all season at the halfway 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.600 point for Aaron Rodgers going against a team that's picked 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.800 off fifteen balls in nine games, and quite frankly, I 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.800 know I keep talking about this game against the Bears 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.680 because it's the one I watched and it's how I 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.920 got at least a little bit familiar with the Dolphins. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.160 The interceptions from at least there was one huge interception 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.240 there might have been a secon one for ms Rubinsky 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.360 was really what turned that game around, because the Bears 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.559 were in control of that game in the second half 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.160 until Trubisky got picked and and that was it was 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.640 an interception in the end zone when the Bears were 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.360 either going to get a touchdown or at least a 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.120 field goal to get a two score lead in the 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.080 fourth quarter, and that interception in the fourth quarter just 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.120 lifted up Miami and led this comeback that led to 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.560 kind of the crazy finish in the overtime and everything 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.920 that went on with that. So Aaron Rodgers needs to 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.439 continue to protect the ball. These guys they're they're going 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.040 to take their chances to try to get interceptions because 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.199 it's what they've done and it's and it's been defensively 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.280 what they do best, because when they're not picking the 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.160 ball off West, they give up a lot of yards 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.800 and points. That's the biggest point I was gonna try 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.440 to make because I was looking this up right now 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.200 with with where they're at on the season, yet they 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.280 currently fifteen interceptions leads the NFL in that category, but 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.440 they the opposing passer rating still eight seven point four, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.360 which is somewhat surprising when you consider that you have 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:05.520 fifteen picks. Yeah, to be in past defense sixteen touchdowns allowed. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.400 So there has been opportunities, certainly some big plays that 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.840 mix into that as well. The thing that I'm gonna 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.560 be most interested about, well here Mike Petton talk on Thursday. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.280 But Petton uh player he was once attached to as 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.800 a rookie. Kiko Alonso is the middle linebacker there for Miami. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.640 He's had some injury issues that he's had to work through, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.400 been on a couple of different a few different teams now, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.000 but is settling in there with Miami. I think a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.920 D eight tackle summer eighty tackle somewhere around there. Three 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.160 of those fifteen picks belonged to him. We know Mike, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.000 and we've seen it in the past and Don Caper 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.600 has always talked about it. Joey Jr. You want your 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.559 secondary to take the ball away, but when you're linebackers, 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.680 when your secondary players in the trenches can start to 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.600 find ways to be able to do that, that's where 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.520 you're really going to be able to get maximize your 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.320 production in that capacity. That's what stands out to me. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.360 The biggest question mark right now for the Dolphins is 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.840 this whole kind of controversy surround owning they're all pro 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.040 Pro Bowl safety Rashad Jones. That's what I was going 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.200 to ask you about, because I apologize I didn't do 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.800 my research here on this before we turn the camera on, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.400 but I saw a couple of headlines related to Rashad Jones. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.120 What exactly went on there? So in the gate this 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.480 past week, at some point this is all a cord 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.360 to Adam Gaze. It's not like this is a report 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.400 or anything. Gaze step to the podium after the game 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.959 and said, yeah, Rashad Jones pulled himself out. This was 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.640 the Jet skis this is the Jet skame on Sunday, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.240 pulled himself out from the game. Two interceptions. On the year, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:30.760 he's been to the Pro Boy. I believe the last 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.640 two seasons considered one of the top of his position 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.679 in the league right now. So he pulled himself out. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.160 Minca Fitzpatrick, who you and I talked a lot about 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.080 in the lead up to the NFL Combine to the 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.400 NFL Draft. Their first round draft pick ends up coming 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.600 in has played situationally at points this season, and that's 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.640 how they finished the game. But as of after the game, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.040 all the beat writers that I followed from Miami the 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.440 locker room was not talking about Jones. Jones did not 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.319 speak to the reporters, So up until this point right now, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.720 we really don't know everything that went on other than 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.360 the act at that game ended without him on the field. Yeah, 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.160 just a strange situation because the defense for the Miami 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:10.000 was playing well. I believe they intercepted Sam Donald four times. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.120 Things were certainly going well on that side of the ball. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.760 But then uh, but then down the stretch Jones wasn't 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.600 on the field, and then the stranger The real strange 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.480 thing about this is this isn't just the first or second. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.360 I mean, this guy's been there since two thousand and ten. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.520 He's thirty years old, he's been in the league sort 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.000 of coming to his own the last couple of seasons. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.800 But I mean he's been with the Dolphins for eight 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.920 seven eight seasons now so and and obviously with Adam 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.560 Gaze now the last two and a half. So I mean, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.400 it was a strange circumstances and we're gonna have to 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.480 see exactly how that plays out. But if he's on 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.679 the field, historically he's been one of their top playmakers 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.360 in that unit. Yeah. Well, you mentioned earlier the fifteen 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.720 sacks that they have through nine games, which is not 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.880 a huge number by any stretch. Their leader in that category, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.200 not surprisingly as Cameron Wake. But he has but he 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.040 has only three this season. But we've seen in other 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.959 games over the years against the Packers Cameron Wait can 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.600 be a handful. Now. I mean, if he's lined up 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.080 across from David bak Try, the Packers will take that matchup. Certainly, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.719 they have all the confidence in the world in Bok 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.280 tr but Cameron Wake is a guy that when it 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.079 comes to pass rush, you have to keep your eye 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.000 on him because he can explode at any moment. Well, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.040 what's funny too, is the Packers Cameron Waggs had an 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:19.840 up and down career. Obviously, if you know, if you 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.400 follow his story was in the CFL. I mean, he 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.319 kind of took the long way to get into the 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.680 NFL and and be able to become the player that 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.040 he did for the Dolphins. But it seems like the 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.360 Packers have always caught him in that four year intervals 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.720 you talked about in his best seas exactly two thousand 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.520 fourteen sacks. Two thousand fourteen he had eleven and a half. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.520 I remember being a part of that Beat Corps and 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.160 the narrative going into that game about David Bak try 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.400 playing him and what it was gonna take to be 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.000 able to calm him down. I can't really remember off 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.880 the top of my head how he performed in that game. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.280 But yeah, as far as this season is concerned, three 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.720 sacks and seven games. As I mentioned, uh thirty six 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.960 will be thirty seven in January, so he's been doing 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.120 this for a long time. But as we've seen with 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.480 the Julius Peppers of the world, guys that are in 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:04.360 that you know, six three, six four and higher, you 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.000 know it's two sixty eight range, they can find ways 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.240 to be effective pass rushers in their later thirties. And 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.760 while it is only three sacks, I think Wake has 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.400 done that to a certain extent. Yeah, alrighty uh West, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.719 another bit of sponsor business here at home or here 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.200 in the stands. We all know that Green Bay fans 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.400 give it their all and that takes a lot of energy. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.080 So grab a warm bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup. It's 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.560 meaty goodness fuels the greatness of Packers fans everywhere. Try 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.880 to try the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. 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Yeah, that was a 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.480 hot one and that that was one that came right 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.720 down to the wire there Aaron Rodgers with the fake 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.960 spike in the past to Davante Adams and then the 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.840 touchdown to Andrew corlis in the in the final seconds, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:58.000 big win Andrew corliss career to Roger showed a lot 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.960 of confidence there to throw them that ball in that situation. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.400 Remember him talking afterwards about how they had actually discussed 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.520 that if he got that matchup against the linebacker, they 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.640 wanted to exploit it and they did. Yeah, alright, Well, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.200 one other thing we need to get to before the 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.040 end of the show here, Weston. That is a roster move, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.040 A couple of roster moves for the Packers. On Tuesday, 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.600 Geronimo Allison unfortunately placed on injured reserve. Mike McCarthy had 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.640 had mentioned that it was a pretty significant injury that 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.640 he was dealing with, So Allison now out at a 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.160 minimum for the remainder of the regular season. He would 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.120 potentially be eligible to come back for the playoffs if 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.760 the Packers were to qualify, and if they have still 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.280 have an option to bring him back from i R. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.200 The other thing is, for the second straight week, the 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.880 Packers have shipped out a safety who was playing a 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.680 lot of snaps for this team. Last week ha ha. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:51.040 Clinton Dix has traded Jermaine Whitehead is released on Tuesday. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.840 This week, he uh had been ejected from the Patriots 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.400 game for slapping the opponent, the opposing offensive lineman in 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.240 the face mask. I don't think this is necessarily just 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.040 because of that one of these situations that there can 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.440 be a lot of other things that go into a 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.040 decision like this, But the bottom line is the Packers 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.920 continue to have to make adjustments in the secondary. What's 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.200 your sense at this early stage of the week what 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.880 this next adjustment is going to be. Well, the first 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.760 thing is to me that I mean it must and 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.480 again I don't want to speculate in this, but it 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.600 must be somewhat positive for Ken tro All Bryce that 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.800 there isn't a significant injury there if the Packers are 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.880 willing to part with white Head, considering he was the 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.000 backup there between now Truman Williams and Bryce. But we'll 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.640 have to wait and see there thought Josh Jones played 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.760 well given the opportunities that he had. The biggest thing 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.040 that Whitehead was doing is he was playing that what 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.400 I've almost referred to as that Burnette linebacker role where 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.520 you're you're lining up next to to Blake Martinez. Josh 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.520 Jackson played that spot a little bit. We've seen Kenstroll, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.240 Bryce be able to move up in the box before. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.880 Obviously last year Josh Jones handle it when Bright when 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.760 Burnett was down, So there are options there. The you know, 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.480 the biggest interesting thing to me is that a week 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.520 after the Packers make two trades, this was about as 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.880 eventful but Tuesday as I can remember in some time 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.040 for the Packers. With as you mentioned, also Geronimo Allison 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.479 going on injury reserve. You hate to see that just 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.600 because of how doggon consistent he had been up to 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.400 that point, I believe was on pace for a thousand yards. Yeah, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.800 the first four games in the season, first four games 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.040 of the season, Allison was off to a great start 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.000 this year, was producing just the way everybody had hoped 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.920 that he would as the number three guy, a position 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.919 as the number three receiver that he didn't relinquish to 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.280 anybody throughout the off season. Throughout training camp, he took 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.080 ownership of it and was was producing. He gets the concussion, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.359 and then coming off of the concussion, suddenly the other 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.040 injuries a hamstring and a groin injury crop up, and 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.119 now all of a sudden, his regular season is over. Yeah. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.359 I want to just mention to Ibraheim Campbell was claimed 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.639 off waivers on Monday as well, so the Packers do 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.760 have another safety option there. I don't want to dismiss 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.080 that former fourth round pick of the Browns is actually 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.520 has some Northwestern connection. Four guy is now on this 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.360 roster that played at Northwestern. Kind of interesting. All that's 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.800 uh sort of worked out. And then lastly the other thing, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.840 Will Redmond gets promoted in place of Jermaine Whitehead. Redmond 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.119 is a really interesting story. If you know anything about 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.800 this guy played at Mississippi State was a third round 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.200 pick of the forty niners three years ago, but has 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:23.800 never played in an NFL game before. Pretty remarkable considering typically, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.639 you know, even if guys maybe don't necessarily click somewhere, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.800 they still get those opportunities. He never got that, so uh, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.320 it could be a big, big opportunity for him, you know, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:33.720 these next couple of weeks if he can get on 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.960 the field. Yeah, and if people are wondering, how are 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.560 the Packers managing this with all? With all these roster 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.199 was One thing we didn't mention is that the second 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.840 punter that was signed last week, Drew ka Kaiser, was 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.600 released and an interesting story there. You wrote about it 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.240 on our website. The reason the Packers had had grabbed 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.200 the second punter over the weekend was because of j. K. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.000 Scott's wife and the fact that she's due to give 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.560 birth any day now. I haven't seen any updates if 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.960 the baby has arrived yet, not yet, But the Packers 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.160