WEBVTT - Andrew Cuomo Talks NYC Mayoral Race, Mamdani

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we made a real commitment here at Bloomberg surveillans

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<v Speaker 2>that we would speak to the mayoral candidates. We're now

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<v Speaker 2>in the habit of repeating conversations. We spoke earlier to

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Cromo, of course, the former governor of the state

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<v Speaker 2>of New York. This for the mayor's race and a

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<v Speaker 2>vote in November. Governor Cromo, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us again at Bloomberg this morning. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>cut to the chase. I talked to my number one advisor,

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Schenker this morning, decades of five borough experience. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>his question, how do you get the younger voter. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got the older voters in the outer boroughs, You've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Manhattan voting for you, Andre Cromo, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you get the younger voter in this election?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, it's a very good question. And thank

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<v Speaker 3>you and good morning. Thank you for having me in

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<v Speaker 3>the primaries. You had a tremendous vote of the under thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really a national phenomenon. They're highly energized. It

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<v Speaker 3>started as a political movement that was anti Trump. It's

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<v Speaker 3>now further energized by socialism, income equality, and this situation

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<v Speaker 3>in the Middle East, Gazam. But my point to the

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<v Speaker 3>under thirty years look, I agree with your statement of

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<v Speaker 3>the problems. Yes, affordability is a major issue. Yes, your

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<v Speaker 3>rent is a major issue. But the solutions being offered

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<v Speaker 3>by Assemblyman Mamdani are not real solutions. The answer is

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<v Speaker 3>not freezing the rent for four years. Economically, that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Landlords are not going to subsidize buildings, They'll walk away

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<v Speaker 3>from buildings. So yes, the problems they have identified are

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<v Speaker 3>care wrecked. Know the solutions offered by Assemblyman Mam Donnie

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<v Speaker 3>will not solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor, what is your path to victory? As you sit

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<v Speaker 4>here today, can you still win if Mayor Adams does

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<v Speaker 4>not drop out.

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<v Speaker 3>In a multi candidate race, Yes, you can theoretically win.

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<v Speaker 3>The math is much more difficult. I think reality will

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<v Speaker 3>set in at one point because the existential threat is

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<v Speaker 3>I think Assemblyman Mam Donnie as Mayor of New York

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<v Speaker 3>and many Democratic leaders feel that the business community feels

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<v Speaker 3>that people feel that this is a radical form of socialism,

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<v Speaker 3>socialism economic socialism in New York City, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>art of business and corporate America. And how does socialism

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<v Speaker 3>work in New York City? How do you have a

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<v Speaker 3>socialist city in a capitalist nation? The Assemblyman is anti police,

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<v Speaker 3>both for defunding the police, dismantling the police. Said the

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<v Speaker 3>police are wicked and corrupt as an institution, said the

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<v Speaker 3>police are racists. How do you provide public safety? How

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<v Speaker 3>do you recruit police officers? How do you keep police officers?

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<v Speaker 3>If that's your position visa VI the police? So he

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<v Speaker 3>is the threat. You have several candidates who are now running,

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<v Speaker 3>and senior Democrats have said, look, when you get to September,

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<v Speaker 3>the strongest candidate should go forward one on one to

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<v Speaker 3>try to beat Mam Donnie, and the other candidate should defer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've agreed to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, if I'm not the strongest candidate in September,

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<v Speaker 3>then i will defer.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Governor, with a little bit of hindsight, Now, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what is Mamdani's success in the primary? Tell you about

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<v Speaker 4>the New York City electorate right now.

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<v Speaker 3>What it says is, first, you did have an aberration

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<v Speaker 3>in the primary turnout. You had an explosion of this

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<v Speaker 3>under thirty that actually distorted the turnout that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>The polls were all wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, The polls all had me way ahead fifteen to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty points. They did not account for this aberration in

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<v Speaker 3>the turnout, which was the under thirty year olds who

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<v Speaker 3>voted it an extraordinary historic proportion. Everyone else voted sort

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<v Speaker 3>of at the same level of turnout except the under thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>and he had connected with them very well on social

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<v Speaker 3>media TikTok, etc. That we expect to continue in the general.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happens in the general is you have a

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<v Speaker 3>much larger universe of voters. Right, It's not just the

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<v Speaker 3>activist Democrats in a primary small universe. It's moderate Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Out of Borough Democrats, it's older Democrats, it's independence,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Republicans. So it's a much much different universe that

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<v Speaker 3>you're drawing from.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Cromo, with this former governor of the Empire State,

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<v Speaker 2>we welcome all of you across the nation. On the

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<v Speaker 2>way you listen to Bloomberg Survey and that's good morning

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<v Speaker 2>across Canada, around the world as well and on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>We greatly appreciate your interests this of the mayoral race

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<v Speaker 2>a vote in November. Governor, I want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the nitty gritty here wonderful questions from our Bloomberg News team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday at Saint Bartholomew's Church, there was an inter denominational service,

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<v Speaker 2>including Father and riqu Salvo from Saint Patrick's Cathedral to

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<v Speaker 2>try to pick up the pieces of again violence in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. Every conversation is what are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>do to halt slow Christian of the New York Police Department,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the Cromo plan day one to get more NYPD

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<v Speaker 2>on the street and in the cars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a very good point. Public safety is job

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<v Speaker 3>one right. Affordability is a major issue, no doubt, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are other issues percolating, but public safety is and

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<v Speaker 3>always has been the foundation. Nothing works without public safety.

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<v Speaker 3>And crime is up. Some crime levels, some categories of

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<v Speaker 3>crime are down, but crime overall is up and.

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<v Speaker 1>People feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, two interrelated issues in my opinion, to get the

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<v Speaker 3>police back, and you have to get them back. We

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<v Speaker 3>have We don't just have trouble recruiting police right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Historic issues. Back in the day, you would take a

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<v Speaker 3>test to become a police officer, you'd score on the test,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd wait two three years to be called. We can't

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<v Speaker 3>now fill a class and the attrition rate is very high.

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<v Speaker 3>They're leaving at higher rates than ever before. Why Number one,

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<v Speaker 3>the salaries, and I've called for increasing the starting salaries.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting salaries about sixty thousand dollars. I would do a

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<v Speaker 3>retention bonus by the end of the first year, an

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<v Speaker 3>additional fifteen thousand, because literally our salaries are not competitive.

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<v Speaker 3>But second, they've also been demoralized. You know, in this city,

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<v Speaker 3>like many other cities across the country, you've gone through

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<v Speaker 3>a period the past five six, seven years where this

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<v Speaker 3>socialist faction of the Democratic Party has become dominant in

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<v Speaker 3>these big cities, and they have demoralized the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally the statements I read you from a semblyman Mom

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<v Speaker 3>d call people corrupt and racing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nicely, governor works nicely, explained Paul, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>talked to all the different candidates. But you carry a heritage,

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<v Speaker 2>someone say, a baggage of your actions your father of

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<v Speaker 2>a time that many people remember is being safer. What

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<v Speaker 2>are the actions Andrew Cuomo will take to build that

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<v Speaker 2>morale and to get to pay from an absurd sixty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand day one up to where it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's I think two steps. First day, one, raise

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<v Speaker 3>the salary. It will have a practical effect, you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>more competitive, but it will also say to police, I

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<v Speaker 3>value you, I believe in you. And the second factor

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<v Speaker 3>is I will have your back. As mayor. The relationship

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<v Speaker 3>between the mayor and the police is very important. The

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<v Speaker 3>police are out there every day day, they're risking their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>It's inevitable that they're going to wind up in a controversy.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to know that the mayor is going to

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<v Speaker 3>have their back. And right now they feel alienated from

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<v Speaker 3>city government and that has been going on for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>You go back to Mayor Deblasio, they literally turn their

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<v Speaker 3>back at a police funeral. I'd never seen that before,

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<v Speaker 3>but that was the symbolism of the NYPD saying we

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<v Speaker 3>feel alienated and you're making us the enemy when we're

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<v Speaker 3>not the enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually the good guy. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor, your donors, your supporters, the donors that's back to

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<v Speaker 4>you in the primary. Will they continue to back you

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<v Speaker 4>in his general election?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they will.

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<v Speaker 3>What they're looking for is the same thing everyone is

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<v Speaker 3>looking for is what is the path forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You do have a multi candidate field.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is petrified about electing a socialist who's anti police,

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<v Speaker 3>who they feel will bankrupt New York City. Right, if

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<v Speaker 3>your anti business, what makes you think the businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to come here, let alone stay here?

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<v Speaker 3>If you're anti police, what makes me think that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to make the city safer? If anything is going

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<v Speaker 3>to get more dangerous. So everyone is afraid of that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't yet see the path with both Eric Adams

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<v Speaker 3>and myself and as a Republican, and that's why the

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<v Speaker 3>path has to be one of the candidates whoever is

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<v Speaker 3>not stronger, drops out one on one. I believe I

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<v Speaker 3>beat the Assemblyment, but you have to get to that point.

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<v Speaker 4>When is that point? Is there a drop that date

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<v Speaker 4>that you believe from a political perspective that either you

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<v Speaker 4>or mayor Adams needs to make that decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you're in August now, everyone is doing whatever they do.

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<v Speaker 3>September after Labor Day, people get serious about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think you get to mid September and that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the let's call it the drop dead date

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<v Speaker 3>where you're going to have to winnow down the field

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<v Speaker 3>or people will think there is no way to beat

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<v Speaker 3>the assemblymen. And then there'll be just a resignation.

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<v Speaker 2>I look into Chromo, I'm forget get in folks nationwide

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<v Speaker 2>and across New York City. Good morning, Bloomberg eleventhree H

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Croomo with us here really after very difficult ten

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<v Speaker 2>days for the city, looking forward to the election in November,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Cromo within, as Paul correctly mentions, the drop dead

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<v Speaker 2>date and all that, you got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go out and speak to people.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a time, and you're old enough to remember

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<v Speaker 2>that time where with your father's process or your early process,

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<v Speaker 2>there were methods. What's the modern method to reach people

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City, particularly those young people that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to grab.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it is all all about social media. The number,

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<v Speaker 3>the percentage of under thirty who get in news from

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok is overwhelming. It is just incredible. Frankly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, news from TikTok to me is a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of question about concept in general. But it is

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<v Speaker 3>all about social media, especially for the under thirty, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is something that I'm now focusing on very heavily.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, I'm moving around the city. I'm doing all

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<v Speaker 3>the retail if you will, and the traditional media, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at and post got a whole Let me get

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<v Speaker 2>one more question and Governor and Andrew Paul rather as

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<v Speaker 2>a whole series of good questions. I was standing outside

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<v Speaker 2>the Waldorf and Okay, I'm one of the haves folks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking up Park Avenue at the renaissance of

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<v Speaker 2>this city. Or I can drive out across a bridge

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<v Speaker 2>to LGA and I'm looking at the renaissance of this city,

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<v Speaker 2>or the tunnels. Paul going to be here in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, and I'm looking at the renaissance of

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<v Speaker 2>this city. Why are those young kids so upset if

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<v Speaker 2>we seem to be building and burgeoning like maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>other cities in this nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, that is the great anomaly, that is the New

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<v Speaker 3>York City. IC, I see a city of great potential

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<v Speaker 3>and great progress. LGA for those of people who don't

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the acronym. We have a new LaGuardia Airport. Finally,

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<v Speaker 3>Laguardie Airport was the worst airport in the United States

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<v Speaker 3>of America. Joe Biden made that famous comment about if

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<v Speaker 3>you were blindfolded, do you think you were in the

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<v Speaker 3>third world country. We built a brand new airport which

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<v Speaker 3>they said was impossible. It was not rated, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>the best airport in the United States plugged for New

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<v Speaker 3>York City shamelessly, new Moyni hand train station, new Second

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<v Speaker 3>Avenue subway, new Shirley Children Park in Brooklyn. We were

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<v Speaker 3>attracting AI technology. This city can really be poised to

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<v Speaker 3>take off, and that's exciting. And the problems we have

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<v Speaker 3>a road manageable. You know, this is not a post

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<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven period. It's not COVID. It's what they

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<v Speaker 3>were all operational issues. You have a public safety issue,

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<v Speaker 3>higher cops. We've done it before. We have an affordable

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<v Speaker 3>housing problem. Build affordable housing. We've done it before. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we know how to do these things. Under thirty. This

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<v Speaker 3>is more theoretical and ideological. We want a socialist society.

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<v Speaker 3>Affordability is not just affordability for them, it's overall economic equality.

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't have billionaires and people who can't afford enough

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<v Speaker 3>to sustain the family in a reasonable way. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>an ideological dispute. The Middle East and Gaza is very

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<v Speaker 3>big in that issue, and the assemblyman talked more about

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<v Speaker 3>Israel and Gaza than he did public safety and economic development.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think he's running for a position in the

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<v Speaker 3>United Nations more than running for mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, but that's their interest. Governor.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of folks are saying that you had your

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<v Speaker 4>chance to beat mister Mumba in the primary, you did not.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not let Eric Adams get his turn? How do

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<v Speaker 4>you respond to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Eric Adams had his turn right. Eric Adams was

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<v Speaker 3>mayor for four years and New Yorkers have said they

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<v Speaker 3>are unsatisfied with what he has done as mayor. He's

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<v Speaker 3>had a string of very serious scandals and corruption issues.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Mayor Adams was indicted, as you recall, and

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<v Speaker 3>then President Trump dropped the charges for Mayor Adams conditioned

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<v Speaker 3>on Mayor Adams cooperating with President Trump. And for Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>that was the kiss of death. That made the mayor

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<v Speaker 3>of New York the puppet of President Trump. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was the mayor putting his self interest over the people

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<v Speaker 3>of New York. And that's why the mayor dropped out

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<v Speaker 3>of the primary. Right, he was in the Democratic primary,

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<v Speaker 3>and he dropped out because he wasn't competitive. And in

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<v Speaker 3>the general election, seventy percent of the voters are Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're not competitive, with Democrats, you're not competitive, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tokomone time for one more question. I had the clearest

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<v Speaker 2>memories is up in western New York of a gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>from Italy talking about his grandparents. His parents, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the nineteen tens, literally in fear of quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote being picked up after the entrance, whether it's Ellis

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<v Speaker 2>Island or wherever. Right now, we're picking up people in

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<v Speaker 2>these five boroughs as reports day after day. How would

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<v Speaker 2>you handle this city as a sanctuary versus a Trump administration?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you have to fight it every step of the way. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think President Trump, I think he has gone too far.

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<v Speaker 3>When he there's no doubt that the illegal immigration was

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<v Speaker 3>an issue, and he identified that and he ran for

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<v Speaker 3>president on it and you won. He has gone too far.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're talking about dangerous criminals, Americans support New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 3>support you. We're not going to harbor criminals. If you

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<v Speaker 3>have a personal committed to dangerous crime, a serious crime,

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<v Speaker 3>deport them. But when you start picking up people who

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<v Speaker 3>have been in this city, who are working, who are families,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been here for years, they're paying taxes, they're taking

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<v Speaker 3>jobs that nobody else wants to take. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>they're working in the back rooms of restaurants, the landscapers,

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing manual labor that no one else can do.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're disrupting families, and you're doing it without any

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<v Speaker 3>due process. And by the way, you're making mistakes, you're

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<v Speaker 3>picking up people who are here legally and putting them

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<v Speaker 3>on a plane. You've gone too far. And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>the sanctuary city laws are that basically due process guarantees.

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<v Speaker 3>And I passed the sanctuary law for the State of

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<v Speaker 3>New York as governor. The City of New York has

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<v Speaker 3>a city law on top of the state law.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew, we're out of time. Governor Cuoma, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for being with us today. We're looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to you on the road to November