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Speaker 1: Oh a good time, Steve Task Touchdown, touchdown, text down time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to one Bills Live and writing about now, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Peters is bumming out that he said yes to being

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Speaker 1: the co host for one Bills Live for today Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in, man, that is awesome that you

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Speaker 1: came in to be my you know, to ride shot

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Speaker 1: shot gun for me, There's no place I'd rather be

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Speaker 1: at the start of my long weekend the first three

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Speaker 1: hours than was he Are you kidding me? I love this?

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Speaker 1: You could get a good nine holes in in the time. No,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. You know why because I don't like golf

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Speaker 1: enough to go play nine holes like you who played

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Speaker 1: the Round of your Life the other day. Right, See,

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Speaker 1: that's that's gonna haunt me for a while. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: I won't be able to break eighty for a month. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that's my question. Like when you shoot the Round

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Speaker 1: but down, Like do you keep trying to chase that? Like?

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Speaker 1: What score? Now? What score now is? Is Is shot sixty nine?

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Speaker 1: It should have been a sixty seven. That's how much

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Speaker 1: you chase in that game, even though it was the

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Speaker 1: round of my life. So if you shoot a seventy three,

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Speaker 1: which is if anyone comes back from a round of

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Speaker 1: how are you ever happy again? YEA, yeah, that is

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Speaker 1: is my friend. That's my line of demarcation. When I

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Speaker 1: I and then sixty not. I don't even know how.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're in here. Pete. That Clint Boyer NASCAR

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, I gave him a tour of

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Speaker 1: the stadium and the facility over here. One Bills drive

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Speaker 1: and if if some of you have, you've never been

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Speaker 1: over here and never gotten the Nickel Tour. Clint Boyer

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Speaker 1: good too, so I took him around. We're also going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Jim Kelly and his acceptance speech at

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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Valvano SP's Award. He got the Perseverance Award,

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Speaker 1: and um, I was really proud of the way Jim

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Speaker 1: how about our guy buffalo Jim coming out and hitting

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Speaker 1: a home run on this with his speech last night.

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Speaker 1: I was so proud of him. Um he does. He

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Speaker 1: does our city, our organization, and our human race proud

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Speaker 1: every time he gets up there, and as a courageous

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that. Oh yeah, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, No no no, no, no no, I don't You're you're

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Speaker 1: doing the run down the show? Go oh yah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then uh later on Lorenzo Alexander's gonna pop in

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Speaker 1: cocktail show. We had a hockey and football cocktail um

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Speaker 1: with Pete's in with me. I'm a I'm a hockey

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Speaker 1: to him just before the show about who's tougher hockey

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live or at Steve Tasker eighty nine. And uh,

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Speaker 1: before they stop. Yeah, the problem is too and the

429
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: thing looking for you need a pen. This the thing

430
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 1: that I'm that gets me is in hockey, you do slide.

431
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: But the problem is something's got to stop you too.

432
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Speaker 1: So you go into that death slide into the boards.

433
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Speaker 1: And if you're not in the right spot, if you

434
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Speaker 1: can't change, or if you're tangled with somebody, all of

435
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know you're you know the next thing,

436
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: you know you're in the back of an ambulance. In football,

437
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a little different because the grass isn't slippery. It's

438
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Speaker 1: more abrasive. And we used to when I've played in

439
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 1: the old turf days, and maybe a little bit now,

440
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 1: you would have layers of you know, big patches of

441
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: your elbows, knees, skin, shoulders, all just torrious scrape to

442
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: see guys anymore. Remember those big rubber pads they used

443
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: to wear over their forearms and stuff like, Oh you

444
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: know why. That's a different reason. That has nothing to

445
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 1: do with that had nothing new protection kids at lower

446
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Speaker 1: levels of football. It used to be guys would wear

447
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: pads on the backs of their hands and on the

448
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: backs of pads arms right when the game changed. Now,

449
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: it used to be played where you couldn't reach out

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Speaker 1: and touch guys. You had to play everything with your

451
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Speaker 1: forearms and your shoulders, and you had to block guys

452
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Speaker 1: without that. Now they allow guys to use their hands.

453
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: You can fend off blockers with it, or you can

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Speaker 1: go out and make a block with your hands first

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Speaker 1: and push the guy without grabbing a hold of him

456
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: or wrapping around him. And when the game changed that way,

457
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Speaker 1: they didn't need the padding on their forearm arms. In fact,

458
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: it gave a handle for somebody to grab your arm.

459
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: Was that a good change for the game or I

460
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: think yeah, I think it evolved in the right direction.

461
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: I the game was so vicious back in the day.

462
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: You go back and look at that, even the nineteen

463
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Speaker 1: seventies games between you know, rivals like the Kansasy Chiefs,

464
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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, the Bills, Miami Dolphins. You pick your and

465
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: it was it was half a notch above a bar fight.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, who was the guy from the Raiders? Um?

467
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: I always just wanted to go out and Jack Ben Davidson.

468
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Speaker 1: But there was Jack something Jack. Uh, there's Jack young

469
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Speaker 1: Blood and that was he was a ram Oh Jack Tatum,

470
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Speaker 1: Jack Tatum, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there're guys like that. And

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Speaker 1: his nickname was the Assassin. I mean, pick up a

472
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Speaker 1: worse name than that for a professional athlete. I don't

473
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Speaker 1: know the exact years that he played. Did you play

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Speaker 1: against Lyle Alzado or are you coming in as he

475
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Speaker 1: was going out or like, because I know the time,

476
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Speaker 1: I know at the a end, very still in the league. Yea,

477
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Speaker 1: I was eighty five was my first year, and I

478
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Speaker 1: think he was still around then. Yeah, documentary on that guy. Yeah,

479
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: and and and some of it, some of everything of

480
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Speaker 1: a pro athlete does. Some of it is self inflicted,

481
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Speaker 1: you know what. Some you know, what you sign up

482
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Speaker 1: for other guys. And back in the day when I

483
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: came in, it was a kind of a better life

484
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: through chemistry. It was a steroid area when era, when

485
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: I came into the NFL, and nobody knew what they

486
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: know now. It wasn't illegal then. It was you know,

487
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to try it, go ahead, and the

488
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: league would like, you know, they shrug their shoulders. It's

489
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Speaker 1: your decision. So he just didn't ever stop, right he

490
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: was guys, he went and none of it was none

491
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: of it was medically approved or or prescribed by a

492
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: doctor or administered by a medical It was all black

493
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: market stuff back then. And that's you know, and that's

494
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: why some of this has happened to these guys now.

495
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: And like I said, some of it is self inflicted.

496
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: But the league, you know, um, you know, there's certainly

497
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: maybe some complicit complicency, complicit The league was complicit in

498
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Speaker 1: it because they knew it was going on. Some of

499
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: it was um, you know, not at that by the

500
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: by some team. Every team's different, so some teams they

501
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: had a big, big era of it the same too.

502
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't illegal, but I'll tell you what it made.

503
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: It made baseball. I can tell you where I was

504
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. Right, they weren't even able. The

505
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: league wasn't even able by this collective bargaining. They couldn't

506
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Speaker 1: police it either. I mean they couldn't. They weren't allowed

507
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: to drug test guys, so guys could just say, hey,

508
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: forget it, you're not doing it. Yeah, And that's that's

509
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: the way it was so big wow, wide ranging conversation

510
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Speaker 1: Sports Talk Andrew Peter, Steve Tasker on One Builds Live.

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Speaker 1: Clint Boyer's going to join us at the bottom of

512
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Speaker 1: the hour, and we were talking about who's tougher hockey

513
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Speaker 1: players football players, and it is a unique relationship that

514
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Speaker 1: both guys both sports have to violence. Football. It's inherent

515
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Speaker 1: in hockey and particularly with like the fighting it's more

516
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Speaker 1: about and I was I've always kind of shaken my

517
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Speaker 1: head about it. The fight is when it was it

518
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: was accepted in hockey because the league allowed you to

519
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: police yourself. Am I right? Am I? Right? Of that?

520
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: Is that is that the right kind of point of policing.

521
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: Is policing is the is the perfect word for and

522
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: my role in hockey as when I fought, you know,

523
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: the policing stage had just evolved into that in my opinion,

524
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: to just maintain the entertainment value of fighting in hockey

525
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: because the instigator rule was taken out. And you know,

526
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: but fighting in hockey, you know, served a huge purpose

527
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: when when there was when there were dirty hits made.

528
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, you don't see those types of hits anymore.

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Speaker 1: Back to our conversation about football and hockey, though, this person,

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Speaker 1: Nick sends me a look at this picture from ESPN

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Speaker 1: Sports Science NHL hit. An NHL hit is seventeen percent

532
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Speaker 1: harder than an NFL hit, even though NHL players are

533
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Speaker 1: twenty percent smaller. There you go, so they got two

534
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Speaker 1: games to play, that's the And that's amazing too, because

535
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Speaker 1: I've seen your your hockey gear as well, and mo

536
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Speaker 1: so guys like like Rob Ray when he was playing,

537
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: and say, some of you guys don't wear too much,

538
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean like padding and the football guys now they

539
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: all wear see now NFL guys their shoulder pads and

540
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: their body armor is pretty substantial now they can choose,

541
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: particularly up top because that's where the collisions come from.

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00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: You know there everybody's always trying, and not so much

543
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: now because of the rule changes. But it was always

544
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: about you know, hitting the in the top, you know,

545
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: to knock you off your balance, hitting in the head,

546
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: so you knock off balance, not so much to knock

547
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Speaker 1: you out, but that's that's how balance works. You hit

548
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: the end of the player to get them off balancing

549
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: the feet or the tid. I'm gonna say something, and

550
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's ever been discussed in football,

551
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: just from a casual observer. I watched the Bills every Sunday,

552
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: but a casual observer, just from a guy that played sports.

553
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: And I think about player safety today. I think helmets

554
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: and football are a huge issue. I believe they don't

555
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: prevent I think they don't prevent concussions because you can

556
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Speaker 1: get a concussion without hitting your head. So for me,

557
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: it's to me, there's like more like weapons. I mean,

558
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: you see these guys leading with their heads. You see

559
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: you guys leave with the crown of their head into

560
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: the gist up under the face mask, into the chin area.

561
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like, take take pads away from players.

562
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we always feel like the game gets faster.

563
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Let's put more pads on to protect them. No, take

564
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: the pads off, and then the players that really want

565
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: to engage in that contact will engage in that contact

566
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: with minimal padding. But I don't believe you'll see us

567
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: violent a sport in hockey or and I say that

568
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: for shoulder pads in hockey, elbow pads and hockey, you

569
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Speaker 1: know all these things. I mean, that's just my own

570
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: personal opinion, but I don't know I agree. All right,

571
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. Andrew Peter Steve Tasker on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. You're listening to us from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chief Tasker Andrew Peters. We're joined in studio now by

575
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Speaker 1: Clint Barrior, NASCAR driver one hundred and ninety top ten finishes,

576
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: ten wins. He was a NASCAR Nationwide Series champion in

577
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. We met this morning, took you

578
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: around the film. What'd you think of the joint clant?

579
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: I was, it's a nice facility. Hunt it really is.

580
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: And you know it's neat to come to all these

581
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Speaker 1: different facilities all across the country. I've been to a

582
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: few of them now, whether it be the Chiefs where

583
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm from in Kansas are the Cowboys are up here,

584
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's a direct reflection of the area,

585
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: the people. And for me, it doesn't matter if it's

586
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: motorsports or football or any other sport. It's all about

587
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: the people or you know what I mean, It's all

588
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: about that fan base in that area. Is rubbing really

589
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: racing well a lot of times if you rub you

590
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be racing much longer. Yeah, well, there you go.

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00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: You've been racing since you were five. I heard. Yeah. Motorcycles. Yeah,

592
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: I grew up racing motorcycles, you know, on two wheels,

593
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: and they stay with age. You get in the cage.

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00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: So as I got Aliver, Well, let me tell you this.

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Speaker 1: I have a five year old. Yeah, and he turned

596
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Speaker 1: five in April. And uh, I'm not saying that you're crazy.

597
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: I just couldn't envision my son on them. I just

598
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that five year olds could ride motorcycles. Oh yeah,

599
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 1: you do it. My son's three and a half and

600
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: he's pretty confident that he's ready right now. I'm like, well,

601
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: we'll gotta wait a little bit. It's perfect. He's uh,

602
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: he's quite the race. That's a brave boy. Yeah. Well,

603
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: it's just like you guys, you grow up in the industry.

604
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: You grew up doing that, and that's what they aspire

605
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, we were having a conversation about, you know,

606
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the risk we had and and and you say, when

607
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: you get older, you get in the cage. You you know,

608
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's you can get around this facility. You're traveling around

609
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: to all these different venues and you guys race and

610
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: all of them, and you've you've said, you kind of

611
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: enjoy it because you've been around him now you've had

612
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: good runs and all of them. You've had bad runs

613
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: and all of them, but you kind of have a

614
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: good feel for it. Deep do you get to it?

615
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Is there any facility that you go to, like a

616
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: racetrack now that you like while they're you know, you

617
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: gotta be careful here because there's more rex because of

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00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: this and then the other of course there is obviously

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Speaker 1: when we go to the Talladay the restrict plate tracks, Talladaya, Daytona,

620
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: those are the ones where Um, you know the risk

621
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: is definitely there. And why is that for good? Well,

622
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: if some guy like me sitting in the streets different

623
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: your two hundred plus mile an hour, you're three and

624
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: four wide in a traffic jam and you know what's coming.

625
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have a crash. And those are

626
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: where all the bad recks are. You know, today's day

627
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: and age, the safety aspects that have come into the

628
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: sport of innovations, with the safer barriers, the hawns devices,

629
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: all the safety aspects that have become of our sport

630
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: are still um at risk on a track like that. Uh,

631
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the speed right, No, absolutely, it's a speed and then

632
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: the vulnerability like you're literally every single lap there's moments

633
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: where like that was about the big one and about

634
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: wiped out twenty some cars and it always happens at

635
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Speaker 1: those race tracks. Are you are you superstitious? Well, everybody

636
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: in conversations, what's your superstition that like say, like on

637
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: race day penny man and penny heads up. If you

638
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Speaker 1: find a pennyheads up on race day, it will be

639
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: on the dash and they go run better. I'm telling

640
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: you it's you put it on, you tape it to

641
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: the dash. Hell, yes, right on the dash, right on

642
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: there a penny down, watch my watch my vernacular. So

643
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: it's your competition meeting on Monday after the race. Do

644
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: you have a guy that is is supposed to leave

645
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: a penny someplace for you to run across? It's got

646
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: to be legit, you know. I mean that's how heady

647
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: youthletes are too. You have somebody that's on the payrolls

648
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: and they make sure plant runs across the Yeah, nineteen

649
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: seventy two penny. Absolutely, you know, always put your gloves

650
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: on the same way. I mean, didn't you do all

651
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: those Oh are you kidding? Men? It's embarrassing how bad

652
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it is? Like you know, it's yes, it can be embarrassing.

653
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: I see I have a different what you just said.

654
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: That's a superstition. But that's almost like um like luck too, right, Yeah,

655
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: where like some superstitions just kind kind of our routine

656
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: where others just get so cuckoo that they're just kind

657
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: of like this guy start getting to play with a guy.

658
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Once I collected kickcat bars, he was goalie. Now you

659
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about just like the second time this

660
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: week we've talked about what he brings a kick. If

661
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: he's starting that night, he brings a kickcat bar. If

662
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: he wins, he keeps it like keeps it is in,

663
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: eats it, or just keep. He had a bag at

664
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: the end of the year, ziplock bag of all. I

665
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: don't know, enjoy I've never even tried to tried to

666
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: figure it out. If I figure that one out. I

667
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to figure that one out. But hey,

668
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: if it works, that's what supers all about. Tell you

669
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: burn one out and then you're like, oh no, that

670
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: was that was my go too. We were talking before though,

671
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: just about the physicality of hockey and football, and you know,

672
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: the intensity of it, the preparation and the mindset going

673
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: into it. I mean, what they go through, Your go

674
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: through a normal race day or it. Maybe it starts

675
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: the night before. I'm sure it starts weeks before. But

676
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: before that race on a Saturday or whatever day, you know,

677
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: what's your what's your routine for that race leading up

678
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: to it. I think our sport is definitely way more

679
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: physically or mentally demanding than physically demanding. Um. I've been

680
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: watching those that hockey man. I didn't grow up grew

681
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: up in Kansas, you know, I didn't too. We were

682
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: talking about a big build, right, so, uh So, as

683
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I watched you know, those those playoffs and and those

684
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: games um getting down to the Stanley Cup, I just

685
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: this is the first time that I actually took him

686
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: in and watched them, and I couldn't believe the intensity

687
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: that those guys skate in and how how often they're

688
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: they're in and out, in and out, in and out.

689
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: I just couldn't imagine that that play um at that

690
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: level and that speed. And then football, you know, it's

691
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: the same way. But the thing that separates our sport

692
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: way differently from from those sports. Right up until literally

693
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the green flag drops, we're doing interviews, we're taking care

694
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: of our sponsors, we're taking pictures, we're you know, they're

695
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: dragged in so many different ways. Our sport consists of

696
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: those those sponsors on the side of those race cars.

697
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: You've got to take care of business in a good

698
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: way and do a good job at it so you

699
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: can stay on that racetrack for many years to come.

700
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: That's really really hard to just turn that off, get

701
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: your helmet on and go out and compete, because, oh,

702
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: by the way, why you're doing that. The back of

703
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: your mind, you're thinking, what's this track conditioning gonna be? Like?

704
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Is that signing out of the clouds out? What's different?

705
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: What's you know here and there? There's so many different

706
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: things you're trying to juggle while you're taking care of business,

707
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: and then once you get inside the car, the physical

708
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: aspect of it is just heat. That's the really only thing.

709
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to bench press a Volkswagen to be Oh,

710
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: we got para steering, you know what I mean. So

711
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: the wheel's not heavy by any means, but you have

712
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: to endure really extreme temperatures at Chicago is one hundred

713
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and fifty seven degrees in a car for four Can

714
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you train for that? Yeah? Like do you sit in

715
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a sauna in a snowsuit or something? I mean, what

716
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: do you like how this kind of like I was

717
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: talking to Steve there about you know what you do

718
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: up here? What you know to get ready for football

719
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: games in this climate and stuff like this. I mean,

720
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it would be like to get

721
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: out on that field, as cold as it is and

722
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: get hit by some maniac that's twice the size of you.

723
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Could not imagine, So we took you on the I'll

724
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: be honest with you, sorry, I would do that. I

725
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: would do that. I would rather go out right now

726
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: today with the soft body that I have and get

727
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: smoked by a big lineman or somebody than do what

728
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: you do. Hell no, I've got a rollcage, helmet. I've

729
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: got we were listen, Safety got a thirty four hundred

730
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: pound race car around me. I got him down on

731
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: the field and he was talking about some of the

732
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: road road ways that there are new tracks that they're

733
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: getting together. You said that at one turn there's like

734
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: a no give spot where you got to make the turner.

735
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be a head on collision. And I said,

736
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: I'd rather be covering kicks. I mean, you make a

737
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: you miss it by four inches, fine, If you don't

738
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: miss it by four inches, you're upside down in the ditch.

739
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: You might be on fire too. But right but I'm

740
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: telling you that was one of the tracks. And when

741
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: you asked me about the risk and stuff like that,

742
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: there's a new track that's on our circuit right now.

743
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the rolev we're gonna race at Charlotte,

744
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a playoff, cutoff, race. That's the

745
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: trickiest thing about that race. It's a wildcard race like

746
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: no other that we've ever seen in our sport. It's

747
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: going to be crazy. There's no room for air anywhere

748
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: on the racetrack. It was a it's our circle track

749
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: mile and a half racetrack that they've implemented a road

750
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: course through the infield of it. And I'm telling you

751
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: the quarters are tight. You carry a lot of speed,

752
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum through there, and there is no

753
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: runoff room whatsoever. How old are you thirty nine? Yeah,

754
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: well that's good. That's it. It's almost a lifetime sport.

755
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm holding on to it. Manby, I'm still thirty thirty. Yeah, Like, well,

756
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: how what's the oldest driver on on your circuit. So

757
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: that's a big thing in our sport right now, is

758
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: as any sport goes through it. You know, we've lost

759
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: some of our stars, you know, the Jeff Gordons of

760
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: the world, Dale Junior. I mean, those are big blows

761
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: to any sport, no different than you know, losing Brett

762
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: Farve when when NFL did, or anybody any team for

763
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: that matter. So we got a lot of new kids,

764
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of new talent coming up through and there's

765
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: still those old guys that can get the job done,

766
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: and those kids are having a tough time beating. And

767
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of fun being that we're on one Bills

768
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: Live with Clint Boarrior Professional Star Car Race seas in

769
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: two thousand eight NASCAR Nationwide Series Champion. He's got one

770
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety top ten finishes and ten wins. And

771
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: we took you around. We actually got you down on

772
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: the field and general manager Brandon Bean brought you a jersey.

773
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I told him, I say, gave him this nice Bill's jersey,

774
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: number one jersey. I said, wait a minute, shouldn't ben

775
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: car number fourteen? Right? I mean that's your car number? Right?

776
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean that's I thought. I just like, now given

777
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: them the big number one. I dig it, I dig

778
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: it in and let me tell you something. That number

779
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: one will be on my wife's back. There's no Bills fan.

780
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: You said, Oh yeah, she's from upstate New York and

781
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: Pinyan And there's no way that I'll ever get in

782
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: my trophy room because she'll have it already. Um, she's

783
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: always wear she since the day I've met her, she's

784
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 1: always had these blue Buffalo Bills sweatpants, and she still

785
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: wears them to this day. So that that jersey, I

786
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: don't know. They're just bad by this point. They're they're old.

787
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Their war out. You grew up a Chiefs fan, you know,

788
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: until I came up here, and and now I know

789
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: some Bills guys now, uh, now they got a different

790
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: respect for it. But but but then it's like the Bills,

791
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: you can't wear that in North Carolina. We're gonna get

792
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: thrown out of here. That's right. Did you play any

793
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: other sports growing up? Know that everybody always wanted a

794
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: ball worse than I did in any other sport. I mean, yeah,

795
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: one of them lynemen they come here, you wait too

796
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: to come out and make it. That's right, That's exactly right. Yeah,

797
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: we both we learned the say. We both grew up

798
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: in Kansas. There wasn't an ice rink in the state

799
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: in the night in night I grew up in nineteen

800
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: sixty two I was born. There was not an ice

801
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: rink in the state that I grew up in until

802
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: I was in college. And then they had a minor

803
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: league hockey team for Edmondson. The Wichita Win was there.

804
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Now there's rinks everywhere. Now they've got right now hockey

805
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: is kind of entered absolutely, and lacrosse and can you

806
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: believe lacrosse? I mean she, my wife was went to

807
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: college on a on a scholarship to play with lacrosse.

808
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: And when I met him, my god, honestly don't even

809
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: know what lacrosse is. I mean, we grew up that

810
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: there was nothing. Now it's a planet. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

811
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: Clint boyor NASCAR driver here with us on One Bill's Live.

812
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about UM and we were talking

813
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: about the risk reward and all and the mental preparation UM.

814
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: And you're you grew up just like I did. I

815
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: grew up a Chiefs fan because you can't do anything else.

816
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: You've been up there to that stadium, and you've been

817
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: to this stadium, and you've been to race tracks. What's

818
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: the thing that strikes you about sports in America? About

819
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: how important it's become. And some of for us, I mean,

820
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: we kind of you kind of get the theme where

821
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: we don't have to keep it in perspective. It's my job,

822
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, but from all a lot of people. We

823
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: were talking about the tailgators here in Buffalo. People it's

824
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: a real part of the fabric. If you grew up

825
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: in our country, it's it's on the top shelf for

826
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Oh absolutely doesn't matter what sports

827
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: still to this day, and that's that's exactly right. I

828
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: think you hit it right there. It doesn't matter whether

829
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: it's it's motorsports or football. It's all about that atmosphere,

830
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: that that feel when you roll into the stadium, whether

831
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: it's a car race and Bristol, you know that's our

832
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: little that it's our stadium or Arrowhead or even here.

833
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean you can just see it and you feel it.

834
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: Even when their people aren't here and there's no game

835
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: going on, you could just see and imagine the chaos

836
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: of a Sunday you know, football game here and that's

837
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: what you love about it. That got me pumped up

838
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: as I walked down through the tunnel and you were

839
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: explaining to me, you know how tight it feels when

840
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: all those people are there. I could feel that. I

841
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: could just imagine it, And whether you're a competitor or

842
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: a fan, it makes you want to be a part

843
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I'm saying, Like, it doesn't

844
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: matter once I'm gone and quit race and I'm going

845
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: to Bristol, That'll be one of the races that I'll

846
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: always go to. I'm going to Dayton and I'm going

847
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: to Martinsville. Those are those venues that'll just be forever.

848
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: Great tailgating, great atmosphere and a great race. I've heard

849
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: great things about Watkins Glenn. Yeah, absolutely, I go to track.

850
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: A destination track for a lot of people, A unique

851
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: racetrack for our sport. It's only one of two, well

852
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: three road courses now if you if you encounter the

853
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: one in Charlotte. But fun atmosphere, beautiful part of the

854
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: country this time of year, very very technical racetrack. Fast

855
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: you haul the mail over there on the left side

856
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: as you go up through the hill on the s

857
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: is and down that back where that bus stop is

858
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: that chicane right there. I can't explain to you how

859
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: fast you're going through there and how out of control

860
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: it feels before you come around the carouseling back up

861
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: to the start. This just isn't a circle, right, So

862
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: you do you say this is the road road course? Yeah,

863
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: that's because it has left and right hand yeah, right

864
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: and mainly right. As you look through there, it's mainly

865
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: right here. We don't right, if you turn right in

866
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: our business with the majority of the time, it hurts

867
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: like hell yeah, that's what it feels like right here.

868
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: You gotta be good at turning right when you come

869
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: to walk it. You don't have blinkers either, right, and

870
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: some of us may need some. Um. But again, going

871
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: back to the fan base and that that feel, that vibe,

872
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: that atmosphere at the stadium, um is definitely there. That's

873
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: a cool racetrack to go watch at. There's a lot

874
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: of elevation changes you can watch from a lot of

875
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: different culture, right. Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's what

876
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: That's what I didn't understand when somebody was trying to

877
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: explain it to me, because if I'm going to go

878
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: to a NASCAR race, it's gonna be walking because it's close.

879
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: And they said that there's some pretty like some really

880
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: cool sight lines. Yeah, I mean, obviously start on the

881
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: front straight away and you can watch the whole racetrack.

882
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: You know, you just get a good vision of the

883
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: whole track and you can see Pitt Road and watch that.

884
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: But you can also get down and go watch Turn one,

885
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, roll through the infield and all the Corporate

886
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: of America is through there with their displays and hospitality villages,

887
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: and fans are camped out all through their partying and

888
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: bands playing at night. I mean, it's there's no reason,

889
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think and to be a surprise

890
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: that that place is sold out every year because it

891
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if I'm on that racetrack or at night.

892
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I want to get in a golf cart gut check

893
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: out what's going on because they're having a hell of

894
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: a good time. Do you drive with your car to

895
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: all these races? Do you fly? How does that we fly?

896
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: You do? Yeah, the teams fly and I still have

897
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: a plane and so we fly. And it just you're

898
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: going so many different ways. Again, that's different. As I

899
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: was talking to you guys about your preparation for a game,

900
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: you're right back here at this facility. You know, our

901
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: preparation might be coming back for competition meeting Monday or Tuesday,

902
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: but Wednesday might be testing somewhere. It might be going

903
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: up to a corporate hospitality deal for one of your

904
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: sponsors or another sponsor, might be two or three of

905
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: them before you get back to the racetrack. All the

906
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: while you're trying to prepare for that next weekend. Where's

907
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: your next stop? New Hampshire? Yeah, yep, cool track, fund

908
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: race track, short track, very flat, um, hard to get around.

909
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: We won there a couple of times and had a

910
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of success up there in the past. Our cars

911
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: are running well, Fords are good right now, So I

912
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: need another one. Man, we're hungry. I got one more question.

913
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm a big movie guy. I am so so okay great.

914
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: So there's two. There's two NASCAR Starck car movies that

915
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: come to mind. There's Talladaga Knights, Yeah, and then there's

916
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Days of Thunder, right, and then might be other ones

917
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: that I'm forgetting. I'm sure that you would know of

918
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: Is there a best one? Which one is the most

919
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: similar to race? Days of Thunder? Now, I like Talladega Knights,

920
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: and it's funny. Everybody can appreciate that. Um, But I've

921
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: never seen a tiger in the back of a Chevelle

922
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But let me tell you something,

923
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Days of Thunder. The coolest thing about Days of Thunder.

924
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 1: That barn that you know Harry Hog built that, Harry

925
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: Hide built that, that car in that barn is still

926
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: in Mooresville still to this day. Yeah, still right there

927
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the town. And every time you

928
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: drive by, like days a hunter, that's where they build

929
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: his car. Colt Trickle. Clint Boyer joining us on One

930
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Thanks for being with us. Professional stock car

931
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: racer two thousand and eight NASCAR Nationwide Series champion, one

932
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety top ten only played in one hundred

933
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: and eighty six NFL games, one hundred and ninety top

934
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: ten finish and ten wins. Thanks for being with us.

935
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. We'll be back on One Bills

936
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

937
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: Back with One Bills Live, Steve Tasker, Andrew Peters. We

938
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: just had Clint Boyer on and you said, his first

939
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: NASCAR driver you've ever met. I love meeting athletes from

940
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: other sports. You and I hit it off a long

941
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: time agohen we first met, because you know, we both

942
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: want to You kind of automatically know what kind of

943
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: commitment it takes to be at the high level. And

944
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: for a guy that like him, who's, yeah, he's got

945
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: a you know, one hundred and ninety top tens, how

946
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: many races do you have to be in to be

947
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that good. I can tell you if he's only race

948
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: in one hundred and ninety, it means he's pretty pretty good,

949
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: right from right out of the gate. I played in

950
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty six NFL games over thirteen year career,

951
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: and he probably runs, you know, twenty five races a year,

952
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: right he's thirty nine. We should have asked him, but

953
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: when he I wanted to ask him what year he

954
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: turned pro? But that that question, you know, slipped my mind.

955
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: But like you, I love meeting athletes from from other

956
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: sports just simply because you get to ask them the

957
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: questions about the preparation and all that stuff that might

958
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: not seem and you know, it's funny. It might not

959
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: seem overly interesting and interesting to other people, but if

960
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: you think about it, you have to prepare to do anything.

961
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: So you know, to prepare to get in a car

962
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: drive two hundred miles an hour with with a bunch

963
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: of other people in there. And I mean with the

964
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: same mindset right two two hundred thinking about going two

965
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: hundredth I'm what's the fastest you've ever done on the highway.

966
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: You can't get a ticket for talking about I can't.

967
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I think is like one hundred and thirty five maybe

968
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: miles Prower. Yeah, wow, wasn't So that's I wasn't kilo.

969
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't driving, and I wasn't in the car. Actually

970
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: kilometers that get prosecuted for that right now, that's a lot. Well,

971
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: one hundred hundred miles and hours, one hundred and sixty,

972
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty some one hundred and sixty seven.

973
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: It was fast fastest I've gone to one hundred and

974
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: eighty kilometers illegally, of course, so that's like just one hundred,

975
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and something, one hundred ten, one hundred and something. Yeah,

976
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: but that you think about going two hundred miles an

977
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: hour in like a traffic jam, I can't even You

978
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: gotta practice, you know what? You know what? I wanted

979
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: to ask him that I was afraid to ask him,

980
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: and I admit I admit to saying that I was

981
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: afraid to ask him. I can't believe I was more

982
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: comfortable to ask him about um the risk injury? Were

983
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: you asking question crashing and crashing and burning? I wanted

984
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: to know because it's public knowledge how much a football

985
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: player makes or hockey. I don't want to know how

986
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: much he makes, I just want to know, on average,

987
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: because he's obviously one of the best, Well, on average,

988
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: what does an average NASCAR driver make in a year?

989
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of it depends on sponsorships,

990
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, you place in a couple.

991
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's like golfers. If you if you finish

992
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: in the top twenty eight or nine times, you're having

993
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: a good year financially. I mean, you're not Tiger Woods

994
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: or any guys. But well, yeah, that's true. I think

995
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: it's big. It's gotta be big. Well, listen, we got

996
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: a glimpse obody asking how he travels private. Oh so, yeah,

997
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I know there's that. So it's a different end. Plus

998
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: it's corporate money they're dealing with and directly, so they're

999
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: there and there, and he's talking about, you know, running

1000
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: forward cars. So I mean, I'm I'm thinking that's he's

1001
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: doing okay for himself, don't you think? Oh, without question,

1002
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you talk about risk reward. That's

1003
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: gotta you need. You need to be rewarded for getting

1004
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: in there, and they might have to pry out of there.

1005
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: But the thing that the thing is okay, So you

1006
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: look at hockey contracts guaranteed. You look at NFL contracts,

1007
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: A guy can get frontloaded money. You know, he gets

1008
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: this much guaranteed and whatever. Forget about getting cut and

1009
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: all that. No guaranteed contracts. But guys like this, their

1010
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: their income directly is related to their performance. I mean

1011
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: they're they're they're sponsors. I mean, if they start dropping

1012
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: lower and lower and lower, I mean sponsor dollars are

1013
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: less and less, and other guys are creeping up, I mean,

1014
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: it's got to be NonStop, NonStop competition though. That's why

1015
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: I love talking to guys in other sports. Where that

1016
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Peters joined me here, Steve Tasker. We're on One

1017
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We're gonna take a break.

1018
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Coming up, we got Lorenzo Alexander coming. We gonna have

1019
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: a conversation maybe about the NFL PA versus the NHLPA.

1020
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know enough about that to

1021
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: do it. We're also coming up NFL True and False.

1022
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. My boy Jim Kelly and

1023
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: his home run of a speech last night at the

1024
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: sp Stay with us One Bills from One Bill's Drive

1025
00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's radio stay with us Hills Radio Network

1026
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Sports Date. The two eighteen espis took place last night.

1027
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly won the Jimmy V

1028
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: Award for Perseverance. In the emotional speech, he thanked his

1029
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: son Hunter for teaching him the definition of toughness and

1030
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: to never give up. Alex Ovechkin but won the twenty

1031
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: eighteen sp Award for the Best Male Athlete, becoming the

1032
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: first NHL player to win the award, and the USA

1033
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Women's Hockey ice hockey team was recognized with the Best

1034
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Game Award for their gold medal win at the two

1035
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: eighteen Pyeongchang Olympics. The Atlanta Falcons are not planning to

1036
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: renegotiate Julio Jones contract after the All Pro receiver sat

1037
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: out during offseason workouts in hopes of that change. Jones

1038
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: has three years left on the seventy one point two

1039
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: five million dollar contract extension he signed in two fifteen.

1040
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans defensive end Darrell Casey plans to protest

1041
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: social injustice on the field during the national anthem before

1042
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: games this season and will quote take my fine, Casey says.

1043
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: His protests in twenty eighteen will be a continuation of

1044
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: what he did last season when he raised a fist

1045
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: during the playing of the national anthem. The Titans have

1046
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: yet to comment on Casey's remarks. The twenty eighteen British

1047
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Open began today at Carnoustie Golf Links in Angus, Scotland.

1048
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: The championship is being held from today until Sunday, July

1049
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty second. The Los Angeles Dodgers acquired prized All Star

1050
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: shortstop Manny Machado from the Baltimore Orioles in a trade

1051
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: last night. The Orioles received five prospects for Machado, whose

1052
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: contract expires at the end of this season. The Bison's

1053
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: lost yesterday against the Norfolk Tags five to Norfolk Tides

1054
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: five to four the Herd. It's going to host the

1055
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: Durham Bulls tonight and the first pitch is at seven

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Speaker 1: oh five. That is your sports update here on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live with Steve Tasker and Andrew Peters. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff, and one of the things

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Speaker 1: that's the topic of the day around not just here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but around the country was Jim Kelly's emotional

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Speaker 1: acceptance speech of the Jimmy v Perseverance Award last night

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00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: at the SP's and if you haven't had a chance

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00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: to listen to it, I'm sure a lot of you

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00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: have heard excerpts from it, and not just because he's

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00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, but because he's because we're a

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's station in Buffalo, New York, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: play you the whole speech. So stick with this. It's

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Speaker 1: worth the listen. One of Buffalo, one of our city

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: of Buffalo's all time great icons, Jim Kelly last night

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Speaker 1: at the SP's and his acceptance speech. It is never easy.

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Speaker 1: Washington video about about my sons so many time. Don't

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Speaker 1: dreamt it. Continue to dream about my son Hunter and

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00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: what he's met in my life. They we never saw.

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Speaker 1: And I went on looked up here and she's done,

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00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: and I John, I've just reflect back on some of

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00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: the things we've been through and some of the things

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00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: we went through, and all the good times. Our golf termanship,

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00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, which has so much fun. Dan, you and

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00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: I balling year after year, twice a year. And John

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the class from nineteen eighty three to five.

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: Other quarterbacks, thank you for winning two Super Bowls for us, Well,

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00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: you appreciate that, especially me and Dan. When I look

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: back in my life, I've always lived by the four fs,

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00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: the one I had, but I've changed. It was fun

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00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: even though I still have fun. I put the one

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00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: in there that means more to me now than it

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00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: ever has. And that's my faith, my faith in the

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00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Good Lord that he has plans. He has plans for

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00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: my life. Through my son Hunter, we will make the difference.

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Speaker 1: My family, Wow, I don't know what I was gonna say.

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00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: My daughter Aaron, every single time she walks into the

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00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: hospital at one time did she ever have a frown

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: on her face. It was always, daddy, you look so good,

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00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: you are so cute, and she give me a high.

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00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: And my daughter Cameron so many times she recugged me

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00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to leave her go. Even today

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: when she hugged me, I don't want to leave her

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Speaker 1: to go. And my wife, Phil, you are my heart,

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00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: you are my soul, you are my everything. I love you, Jill.

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Speaker 1: My brothers. I had five brothers, Pat, ed Ray, Danny,

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00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: and Kevin. They've been through everything with me. They're good

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00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: times and bad times. The Super Bowls we had fun

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00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what I be here today if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't from my fire brothers. I love you does.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: My Bill's family from the Wilson family to Cherry and

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00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: Kim Pagoula are new owners. So the Whack and Doodle

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00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: buddies of mine, Bruce Thurman, Andre there a biscuit, Will's Tasker,

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: all you guys. Every single day they continue to have

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00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: group text messaging. It drives me crazy, so they always

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00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: put me in it. But she do It makes me laugh,

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00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: It puts smiles on my faces. My Hunter's Hope family.

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Speaker 1: There are sixty families right now in Buffalo, New York

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: that their kids have the same disease as my son has.

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: They are trying to make a difference. I just want

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: to let them know that I will be home tomorrow,

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: me and my family to go with you and be

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: able to go out there and make a difference. My

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: friends out there, my high school football coach, who is

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00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: the reason I have a old Jackers reading, I turned

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Speaker 1: professors reading. I'm still sitting there, Terry, Henry, I'll have

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00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: your coach, and I know You've got some people out

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00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: here today in the audience, Piers Gone, Tommy and David Kerr,

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00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: my best friend, my assistant for twenty years shift, but

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Speaker 1: thank you all for being here. Somebody body back home,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here. And finally the fans, I came

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00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: up with a saying, may say difference today for someone

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00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: who is fighting for there tomorrow. When I looked across

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Speaker 1: this arena and when I talk to people and I

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00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: looked up here, you don't need to be a Russell

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00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: Wilson and Aaron Rodgers to make a difference out there.

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Speaker 1: Every single person in this room can be a difference maker.

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Using be just a normal person, get up every morning,

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: goes to work. But you can be a difference maker

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00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: putting a smile on those faces, my kids, my friends

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00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: when they came in to see me. Once today ever

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00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: ever froll on her face. So I urged anybody out there,

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00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: if you have somebody out there or suffering, it doesn't

1138
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: have to be answer. It would be something you're having

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00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: any good days. Could be your mom, your dad, It's

1140
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: gonna be your grandparents. What you say to him. The

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00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: smaller you have one of your affection doct can be

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00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: the difference. And then Mason the next Jed remember that

1143
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: always always persevere like Jimmy Bee said, never ever give up,

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00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: and you might builds fans back home. I love you

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00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: and to everybody here tonight, and to Jimmy b Foundation,

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Speaker 1: thank you for airing me and humbling me with this reward.

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Speaker 1: I love you all. God bless you me, Your good lords,

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: continue your bless yours. Thank you. Hard to say anything

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Speaker 1: after a speech like that. I was really proud of

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00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: my friend Jim and the way he touched all the

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: bases and as and those of us in Buffalo who

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00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: have known him for so many years and been friends

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00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: of his, and the Buffalo you get to see him

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00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: so many times over the years. The change in his

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00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: life that has happening, not only because of his wife Jill,

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00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: but because of his son Hunter and his cancers and

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00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: he has he's a completely different guy that he was

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00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: when he arrived here in nineteen eighty six, and he's

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00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: almost he's better in every way. Forget about the Hall

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00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback career that he put together here in Buffalo.

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 1: The guy just a phenomenal icon. And we've talked about

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: at length this week about his legacy goes far beyond football.

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00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: Now that he's uh that he's retired. I remember the

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00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: very first time I ever met Jim Kelly, and I

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00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: can remember the next day I called my dad and

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I said, Dad, I just I met Jim Kelly yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Because I mean, growing up, you know, football wasn't on

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: every Sunday in my house, but the Bills every year

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: you guys were in the Super Bowl. I mean it

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00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: was it was always talked about. I grew up in

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00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Saint Catharine's, Ontario. I mean it's like everyone over there

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00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: are Bills fans, so you know, like to to meet

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00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: Jim and then just to be able to see him

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00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: around over the years, and I mean after I mean

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: I've always been it's always been amazing to say that,

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00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, you met Jim Kelly, you know him and everything.

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Speaker 1: But last night, I mean, he just absolutely nailed it.

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: And how hard it must have been to get up there,

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00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, almost break down into tears rightfully, so when

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: talking about his son Hunter, and then you know, off

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: the cuff, like there's no there's no que cards, there's

1182
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: no teleprompter. I mean, he he went off. It was raw.

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00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: It was real, it was It was amazing and so

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00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: fitting to have those two quarterbacks there to bring them

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00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: up on stage. But the one thing that stuck out

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00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: to me and I knew yesterday watching that we'd be

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00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: talking about this, you know, was the text chain. I mean,

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00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: it's just amazing how technology can keep you guys so close,

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00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: because I feel like like if it weren't for technology,

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know you guys were really you guys. It's

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: such a bond. It's very unique in sports what you

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: guys shared winning or not in those Super Bowls going

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00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: four times. I mean, that's a brotherhood. You can never

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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: break the experiences. But without technology, you guys might not

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00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: have that text chain. Now I'm sitting there thinking, is

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: knowing you okay and knowing a little bit of these

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00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: some of the other guys. I would love to know

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00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: what you guys had going on in some of those

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Speaker 1: in some of those text messages, well some of it

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: it will none of it's for air, but that you know,

1201
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: those guys didn't sign up for. But we've Will Wolford

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: jumped on this text loop after bit and they were

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00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: talking about Jim last night, and I knew I was

1204
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: out and about I was talking. I was talking to

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00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: my family. I was over my son's house last night.

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Speaker 1: And we weren't watching. We caught it after it had happened,

1207
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: and I knew it had happened. I remembered it had

1208
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: happened because my phone started blowing up with the text

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: loop from the five presidents. So and they were all

1210
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: going it was interesting because usually they bust chops, you know,

1211
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: and it's making fun of each other and themselves, and

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00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot of humor and telling us what's going

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: on in our lives as we get older, to be

1214
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: older guys. Last night it took an a real turn.

1215
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: This text loop took a real turn in humility and

1216
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: emotion and just you know, love for Jim and saying,

1217
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, comple way to go, Jim. Awesome. You know,

1218
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Jim hit it out of the park because we're proud

1219
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: of him because we knew what you know, you can

1220
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: tell by watching that speech that Jim put out last night,

1221
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: the courageousness it took to get up there. He doesn't

1222
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: speak well because of the surgeries that he's had. He's

1223
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: got more surgeries on the horizon. It's not a battle

1224
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: that is won yet, but he is holding his own,

1225
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: no question. He's got the best care available. They're not

1226
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: letting anything slip through the cracks. He's doing everything he

1227
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: can to beat it, and I you know, when we're

1228
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: hopeful and confident that if anybody can, he will. But

1229
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: we're in that fight with him as much as we

1230
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: can be, and like he said, if he needs something

1231
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: from us, we're there. You know, people call him and

1232
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: we're not allowing his wife, Jill, his daughters, all the

1233
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: friends he mentioned last night that a lot of people

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01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: have no idea about I knew every name he spoke

1235
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: and I'm know him. I know him well. And that's

1236
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: the kind of wide swath that Jim has cut through life.

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Unlike you, he doesn't forget people. There are guys, There

1238
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 1: are people I know because they were fans of Jim

1239
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: in Miami, and Jim invited him to Buffalo for his

1240
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: golf tournament thirty two times, right, I mean they're up

1241
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: here every single year. He doesn't forget them, and people

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo know that. And those people and you can

1243
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: call in. I guess if I guess we could do this.

1244
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get to the calls. But

1245
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: if you want to call in and say something about

1246
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Jim and let everybody share it, if two five fifty.

1247
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: That's right. You can call us or tweet at us

1248
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: at one Bills Live or at Steve Tasker eighty nine

1249
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: if you want to call in and talk about Jim,

1250
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: what happened with him last night? How proud you are

1251
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: of him? About an experience we all have an in Buffalo.

1252
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: There's got to be thousands upon thousands of people who

1253
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: have a personal encounter with Jim, you know what. You

1254
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: know what like the footage last night. You know they

1255
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: talk about toughness, like the ying footage they showed of

1256
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: him just getting smoked every time, every time, right, I mean,

1257
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: because I mean you want to talk about, you know what,

1258
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: a guy's known for toughness and perseverance and you know,

1259
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: being courageous. Not taking away from the reason why he

1260
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: was there. But when you look at you look at

1261
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: the highlights of the football scenes they showed last night,

1262
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: just him getting crushed and then smiling at the guy

1263
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: as he's getting up off the ground. We were talking

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Speaker 1: earlier about the kind of guy you don't want to

1265
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: go up against on a daily basis. That's the kind

1266
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: of guy, the guy that takes the pounding, smiles and

1267
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: then comes right back for it again to put his team,

1268
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, over the hill, I mean that is, or

1269
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: over the hump, I should say. But it was amazing

1270
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: last night, and you know I was. I was proud

1271
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: for all of Buffalo because when he went up there.

1272
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, when you hear Jim Kelly's name, you know,

1273
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: you think about him as being like an ambassador for

1274
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: the city of Buffalo, ambassador for the Buffalo Bills, you know,

1275
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: even an ambassador for the Sabers. I mean, he loves

1276
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: the Sabers. And I know he didn't come here loving

1277
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo back in nineteen eighty six six, but you know

1278
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: he loves Buffalo now, and you know this is his

1279
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: home and and everybody in Buffalo has embraced this guy

1280
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: and loves this guy. And just seeing him get up

1281
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: there and do his thing last night, I mean gave

1282
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: me chills. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you

1283
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: that I broke down into tears, but I was. I

1284
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: was by myself, and I was I was damn close.

1285
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: I was really close. Yeah. I always tear up when

1286
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: he does. He's done that to me a lot. I

1287
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: mean over the years, of course, I mean he's given

1288
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: me goosebumps both on the football field, and more times

1289
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: now since we've retired, he's given me too. I couldn't

1290
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: imagine watching watching that in your position, knowing him as

1291
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: well as you do, how proud you must have been.

1292
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm saying this is someone who's who's

1293
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: cross passed with Jim Kelly and knows him well enough

1294
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: that he might say, hey, Andrew, are you nice to

1295
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: see it? But knowing him the way you did, and

1296
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: knowing like those guys, and and seeing him go up

1297
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: and do that, I mean, I don't know that that

1298
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: to me is it's obviously a guy that had no problem,

1299
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, leading the troops out out the field. Yeah,

1300
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly won the Jimmy V Award for Perseverance last night.

1301
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: We just played his emotional speech. Talk about five minutes

1302
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: to play the entire speech, and you know you talk

1303
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: about and you're right, all the hit, all the highlights

1304
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: you give. You know, he makes a great throw here,

1305
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: or he gets smoked and gets knocked over and he

1306
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: gets up smiling at the guy that stumble and the ball.

1307
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that guy. Uh, that speech he gave last night

1308
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: might have been his grace accomplishment. I was going to

1309
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: ask you that, But like I was going to ask you,

1310
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: knowing Jim, he's accomplishing a great thing. Well, that's exactly it.

1311
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, where would he rank last night in you know,

1312
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: in his career? I guess, I mean, would it be

1313
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: right there? And you're the top to me? You think

1314
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: about all the things, certainly, U, the football stuff he

1315
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: did is a different kind of victory. And and and

1316
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: of course getting back to the Super Bowl four times

1317
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: of leading a team to do it. Um, and then UM,

1318
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: the courageous attitude and message he gave out after his

1319
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: un hunter passed away, and then last night getting up

1320
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: there as as as ravaged as as he has been

1321
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: with the surgeries he's had to endure for his cancer,

1322
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, and the way he speaks, and the courageous

1323
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: message he gave in the midst of all of that

1324
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: going on in his life. You've Um, I don't know

1325
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: in ages past, how guys like that we're not we're recognized.

1326
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how you found out about guys like

1327
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: that in our day and age, with television and with

1328
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: pro sports and and all the things that we have

1329
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: with media and the way we electronically keep track of

1330
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: people across the country and how prominent Jim has become

1331
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: and what we know about him. I don't know how

1332
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: heroes of the past got recognized the way we can

1333
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: recognize a guy like Jim. But man, oh man, that

1334
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: effort he put forth last night was heroic. And uh

1335
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: and I hope people don't, you know, and I'm not

1336
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: I hope people don't ignore his words at the end there,

1337
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: because he's right like you, and he's experienced experiencing it firsthand,

1338
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: and that is, you know, making a difference in somebody's life.

1339
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there are messages that he might

1340
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: get on a daily basis from somebody he might not

1341
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 1: be expecting or that makes him feel just a little

1342
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: bit better with what he's going through. And and you

1343
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: know what, I'm sitting there and I'm listening to him

1344
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: say it last night. You know, there's a lot of

1345
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: people out there that would just be like, oh, you know,

1346
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: but no, those are words spoken by somebody who's lived it,

1347
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: is living it, and means it and probably can see

1348
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: the power and what he's saying. And I mean, I really,

1349
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: I really took took that message to heart because because

1350
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: I truly believe that it's in all of us can

1351
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: be better and help somebody that in needs. So I

1352
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: agree with you. I wasn't gonna do this, but I

1353
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: did mention it, and we got to call a couple

1354
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: of calls from from people. Got a call from David

1355
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, who is we're gonna try and take this

1356
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: And David, you're on One Bill's Live with Steve and

1357
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: and Andrew. What's on your mind? Dave, you said you

1358
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: want to talk about the first time you met Jim. Yes, yes, Actually,

1359
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to say, you guys are

1360
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: doing a great job. You con suuse me a little bit.

1361
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was listening to the Instigator

1362
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: is our One Bill's Life. Yeah, that's a cocktail, no

1363
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: question about it. Thanks for listening. Go ahead, Dave. Yeah. Well, anyway,

1364
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: I was at ah this back in the day at

1365
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: a club in West Seneca, and I was standing at

1366
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: the bar. This guy kind of nudged in what the

1367
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: and I was I was a little upset, and I

1368
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: turned around and there's Jim, and I was about to

1369
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: say something, and then I look up even farther and

1370
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: there's two linemen behind him. I just stepped aside and

1371
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: said here you go. Yeah, that's right, and that's funny.

1372
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: And he bought me a drink. Yeah, there you go. Perfect,

1373
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for that day. And you know that's interesting too

1374
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: because that's when Jim got to and you you were

1375
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: this might have been this definitely before your time. When

1376
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: Jim got to Buffalo nineteen eighty six, he was a

1377
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: rock star. It was like, uh, like Paul McCartney or

1378
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: his own bar. No, he well, he owned anybody walked

1379
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: into and he walked into all of them. And uh

1380
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: the interesting part of buzz and and thank you for

1381
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: the call, Thanks for called. But he walked into the

1382
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: place and he was a rock star. He was you know,

1383
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: he was Mick Jagger walking around. He was Paul mccarton,

1384
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: he was you know, Elton John, he was all of

1385
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: those guy. He was like the guy and and uh

1386
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: and he lived it. Uh. He lived hard, and he

1387
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: played hard. He worked hard, and he was about as

1388
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: friendly as he is now. But man, old man was

1389
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: living that rock star mentality. He kind of had to

1390
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: have some guards up, you know, some guardrails up to

1391
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: kind of keep people up. Ay, So a lot of

1392
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: not everybody ear particularly early in his career here in

1393
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo had warm, fuzzy feelings for him, you know, because

1394
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: he was kind of that guy. Well everybody, you know what,

1395
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing. When you're that guy, When you are

1396
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: that guy, everybody wants something from you. Yeah, that's exactly.

1397
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: And you know what, and there's no there's no um

1398
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: is a tactful way to you know, tell people to

1399
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: buzz off, right, there isn't and and you know so

1400
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: not everybody had that now and then, and including some

1401
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: of the teammates he was with. So as it time

1402
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: rolled on, one of the things we went through as

1403
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: an eight nineteen eighty nine was the bickering Bills and

1404
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: Jim was a big part of that. Um. He was

1405
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, he was a hed. He lived his life

1406
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: just like he does now. If it was in his head,

1407
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: he said it. He didn't filter anything. And you know,

1408
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: in a team atmosphere, you know this, in a team

1409
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: game like football, hockey, whatever, you gotta filter what you

1410
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: say because you got teammates that you know you need

1411
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: to play well for where you don't want to make

1412
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: some guys I think need to filter other guy like that.

1413
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: A guy like that is you you know, is going

1414
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: to go out take a serious blow, get back up

1415
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: and try to help your team. You can say if

1416
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: you're that guy, you can say whatever you want. Other

1417
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: guys sit there and you know, Zipper lip So that

1418
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: that evolution through Jim's life and the and the kind

1419
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: of persons he's evolved into was it was a stepping

1420
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: stone and it came and it's and he still continues

1421
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: to evolve even now. You talk about the humble nature

1422
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: of the things that he says. Now with what happened

1423
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: to his son, it began then that was a that

1424
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: was a crushing blow for him and his family and

1425
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: all of us because we felt for him. It's a

1426
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: very strong family. His family is, I mean, he's a

1427
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: very family. He's got there, He's got all his brothers

1428
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:12,600
Speaker 1: and pat ray ed Kevin and and Dan. Kevin and

1429
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: Dan so I miss one there. There were as much

1430
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: a part of our football team and the group of

1431
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: guys that they were, and they have a lot to

1432
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: say about how the kind of player Jim was, the

1433
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of human being he was, and the fact that

1434
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: even now as as he goes through life now as

1435
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: as this public figure, um he handles it in a

1436
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: way like nobody else does and that's why he's so special,

1437
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: That's why he wins awards, That's why people gravitate towards him.

1438
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: He shares this sickness he's going through with us, He

1439
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: shares the treatment plans with us. We tweet back and forth,

1440
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: We text back and forth with these guys. Um and um.

1441
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: He continues to be the glue that holds all that

1442
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: group back together. So UM. As many stories as we've

1443
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: got for people who have known Jim and met him, Uh,

1444
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: I know he appreciates it, and he doesn't forget too

1445
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: many people. That's one of these gifts as well. So

1446
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: uh yeah, At, I didn't want to spend We're not

1447
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: going to spend the whole show on that, but I

1448
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: did want to let you out there listen to his

1449
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: speech that he gave last night. I was very proud

1450
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: of him. We all should be here in Buffalo. Um.

1451
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: He's one of the favorite son of our city and

1452
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: he continues to be and we're all in it with him.

1453
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: So he was Steve Tasker and Andrew Peters. We're on

1454
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: one bills Live. We're gonna continue with the show at

1455
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: two o'clock ring at Lorenzo Alexander. He's going to join

1456
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: us and talking to us from Arizon. Love Lorenzo, and

1457
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 1: also we're gonna get into and this is something I

1458
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about that we're a week away,

1459
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: or actually exactly a week away from Buffalo Bills training

1460
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: camp opening up. When does the Sabers camp open here?

1461
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: It comes in like they're in September. But what's funny though,

1462
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,839
Speaker 1: hockey training camp and football training camp night and day.

1463
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: That's what I want to take him day. I mean,

1464
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: that's what I want to talk and down due to

1465
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: Rochester to see some of the training camp and stuff.

1466
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: But just the early mornings, the horn going on. I mean,

1467
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: what time do they start? Six five? They get them

1468
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: up early? Yes, why you have all day? Yeah, totally

1469
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: with you. I am totally with you. Can't understand these

1470
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: you want your players to perform. Let's let's blast the

1471
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: horn in the year at five fifteen eight. No, I'm

1472
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: just I'm just kidd. They used to do that. Listen.

1473
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: I came in the league and if any of you

1474
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: ever heard the story of Vince Papali called Invincible, his

1475
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of trip through training camps, what the league was

1476
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: like when I got in It was nineteen eighty five

1477
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: and I was in Houston orders in West Texas. It

1478
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: was two weeks, two and a half weeks or three

1479
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: weeks or two a days, one hundred guys on the roster.

1480
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: It was one hundred and ten for a good chunk

1481
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: of those days, and you were going twice a day hard.

1482
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: It was grueling now, and that's just the way it was.

1483
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: They didn't know any better. They didn't think about changing it.

1484
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: And then they started getting these guys who were, you know,

1485
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: making seven figures, and they were kind of like the

1486
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 1: prized cow. And that's when coaching staffs and general managers

1487
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: as well to owners tuesday and listen, I don't want

1488
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: that guy getting dragged through the mud going through boot

1489
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: camp when I'm paying him seven figures, when I know

1490
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be ready. So let's just, you know,

1491
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: take another look at how this training camp thing goes.

1492
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: And now training camp has evolved away from all of

1493
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: that and it's a much more learning atmosphere than it

1494
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: is a physical one. Yeah, And do you feel though,

1495
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: like the players now or well, I guess it's it's

1496
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: totally obviously what I'm saying is right, like players now

1497
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: are I don't want to say pampered or spoiled, but

1498
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think and i'd say for hockey. I listen,

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: I'd say this for hockey players and not even my generation,

1500
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: but even going back further, I mean like these guys

1501
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: should should know what former players went through and how

1502
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: they evolved to even in hockey you got three hour

1503
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: practices the first week of training camp or whatever. I mean,

1504
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's it's fluff, really. I mean,

1505
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: it's become really easy. But I feel like, like you

1506
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: just said, you have to protect your athletes these days.

1507
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: The business of the sport is the reason why we're

1508
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: having the discussion we're having right now about the differences

1509
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: in training camp. But I don't know what, like what

1510
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: kind of things are still the same. There's no hazing anymore, right,

1511
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I remember watching you know, there used to be

1512
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: a show called Hey Rookie, Welcome to the NFL where

1513
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: they used to have to get up and sing for

1514
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: their food. Did you have to ever have to sing

1515
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: for your food or to make the young guys? And

1516
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: I did? I did what you sing? I sang a

1517
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: Rugby song. It didn't turn out well. Yeah, if you

1518
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: know rugby. You don't want to. You usually don't sing

1519
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: rugby songs, not to football players now, not to football.

1520
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: They appreciated the thought, but it had a dance that

1521
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: went with it, and yeah it was it ended up.

1522
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: So is it safe to say that you think rookies

1523
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: have it easier now than they ever day? They do,

1524
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: But you know what, the players themselves earned it. The

1525
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: game is involved because because the players have proven they

1526
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: can handle the new way of doing things and that

1527
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: the game demands something different. It used to be they

1528
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: were in training camp for six weeks. They would go

1529
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: to training camp to train. Now the money they make

1530
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: these players responsible to show up in shape, and that's difference.

1531
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: So give me the difference between Josh Allen coming into

1532
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: training camp now as a young up and comer versus

1533
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, about twenty five or thirty. What have

1534
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: you been given? The same kind of not not pass

1535
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: but just I guess kind of you know, um, handled

1536
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: delicately in the sense of you know, this is your

1537
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: well future, let's get it right. The hazing thing happens

1538
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: because the players are reaching out to the young players

1539
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,480
Speaker 1: to kind of include them, to get him to humble themselves.

1540
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: And to know that, hey, we're in this together. So

1541
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: that's the reason hazing started in the beginning, so they

1542
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: would do that in fact, in thirty years ago or

1543
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. The hazing starts with the best

1544
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: young player. It starts with the top draft pick in

1545
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: the class and goes down from there. So you start with,

1546
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, the number one draft pick quarterback, and he's

1547
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: the one that has to carry playbooks. He's carrying helmets

1548
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: and pads. He has the one that he's the one

1549
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: that has to run for extra water. He's the one

1550
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 1: that has to stand up and sing at lunchtime. He's

1551
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: he gets it hard because here's the reason. They know

1552
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be there. They want him to be

1553
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: feel included in part of the team. They know he's

1554
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: going to be a contributor, so they want him to

1555
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: feel how a guy it's up by humbling him. Yeah,

1556
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: make it. You gotta appreciate where you're at. So when

1557
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: you're finished with all this, you think, Okay, now I've

1558
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: earned a spot here at the table. I'm gonna cherish it.

1559
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way the mentality works, and

1560
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: it does work. It's a proven method for team building. Uh.

1561
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: And you know, now there are other ways to do

1562
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: it as well. I mean you can do it by

1563
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, with a you know, falling backwards into their

1564
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: arms or something, you know, some new age thing like that.

1565
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: But we used to have also, we used to have

1566
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: a rookie skit, a rookie thing at the end. You

1567
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: have that too. And no, but that's what I love

1568
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: about Hard Knocks is when they do the rookie Knight.

1569
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah they have. Yeah, they make fun of the coaches

1570
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: or the veteran players. It's almost like carte blanche, right

1571
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, your free rate. And some players you

1572
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: see in the videos, like as I've watched every year

1573
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: for probably the last ten years, players certain certain star players.

1574
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: Oh they get a little too true. Yeah, it's like

1575
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: it's like stay away from certain guys, but you go

1576
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: after the wrong guy. That guy gets so angry it's

1577
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: like you have no business to bring me up. But

1578
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of the rookie. Yeah. And plus

1579
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: you do that on Hard Knocks. It used to be

1580
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: like even you know this before cell phones, but even

1581
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: a cell phone area where you couldn't you know, recording

1582
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: any of that stuff is a big no, no, because

1583
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: you know you touched some bases that are private, yes,

1584
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: and a team guys only, yeah, you know, and yes,

1585
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: so and like you said, you hit, you take liberties

1586
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 1: at touching just the right nerve on every guy that

1587
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: you can, you know, and and it's uh, it's okay.

1588
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: You did one of those in junior hockey once and

1589
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: the veterans really encouraged me to go after the coach.

1590
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: So I creatively went after the coach and we paid

1591
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: for it the next day of practice. It is always

1592
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: like we'll show you who's boss boys. All right, all right,

1593
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: you're with Steve Tasker and Andrew Peters One Bills Live

1594
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: from One Bills Driver. We're gonna come back. We're gonna

1595
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: talk about maybe who some great player in the past

1596
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: or present that you would rescue off a bad team.

1597
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: One Bills Live is gonna continue after this. This is

1598
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back up One Bill's Lives. Teve

1599
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: task for Andrew Peters. We were talking earlier about who's

1600
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: tougher hockey players and football players. We both had a

1601
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: good argument about it. We had NASCAR driver Clint Boyer

1602
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: in today talking about his mental preparation some of the

1603
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: things he's doing. He's gonna be a Walkton's Glen. It's

1604
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: a fun racetrack ded New Hampshire. Later on, we also

1605
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: went over Jim Kelly's emotional heroic acceptance speech of the

1606
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy V and Endurance Award last night. I think everybody

1607
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo is really proud of him. We talked

1608
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: about a little bit too about our training camp and

1609
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: some of the things that we do to haze and

1610
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: what do you think hazing means and how training camps

1611
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: have evolved over these particularly in football. I know they have.

1612
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk to Lorenzo Alexander at two o'clock

1613
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: about you know, hell, in a week he's gonna be

1614
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: in the neck deep in it, so we're gonna talk

1615
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: to him about his last minute preps. Maybe he has

1616
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: some superstitions or stuff he does, or his favorite memories

1617
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: and what he thinks about hazing as well. And just

1618
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: before we went to the break, I wanted to ask

1619
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: in every sport, there's these great iconic players who play

1620
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: are synonymous with some franchise in hockey and football and basketball,

1621
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: you name it. They have a phenomenal career. Go to

1622
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and they never win anything, their

1623
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: team never is never never any good at least for

1624
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: never any extended period of time. And this guy plays

1625
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: his entire career, A guy or girl plays their entire

1626
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: career for you know, a losing franchise. You think back

1627
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: over the horse of the of the NFL. Guys like

1628
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: Archie Manning, Barry Sanders, Gail Sayers, Uh, Dick Butt kass

1629
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: um Uh players like that who you know never got

1630
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl and in the buttkass and and

1631
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: uh their days and the super Bowl didn't exist. But um,

1632
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: guys like Archie Manning, who's a great player on a

1633
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: bad franchise, Barry Sanders who never really had a chance

1634
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: to to get deep into the playoffs in multiple occasions.

1635
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: There any guy got hockey players that are like that?

1636
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: I got a modern day player. I can bring one

1637
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,839
Speaker 1: out right now. Um. We talked about him regularly, Eric Carlson.

1638
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a defenseman in Ottawa, maybe the best

1639
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: defenseman offensive defenseman in the NHL, and um, he's in Ottawa,

1640
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: and Ottawa is in a terrible situation and he needs

1641
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: to be rescued. And there are teams out there willing

1642
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: to give up a lot to get him. And uh

1643
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: but I mean, he may as well not even play

1644
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: next year if he's gonna stay in Ottawa. I would

1645
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: be a waste of his time. What about a guy

1646
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: um like this last year Alexelvetchkin, he won the sp

1647
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: last night for the Athlete of the Year, and finally

1648
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: he broke through that he would never be that they

1649
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: would never be considered a bad franchise because they were

1650
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs there, the conference finals a bunch, you know,

1651
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: but he just never won the cup. But you know what, though, Steve,

1652
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you this last year, and

1653
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: it definitely it's amazing what a year can do. Last

1654
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: year I might have said, save the Washington Capitals from Alexovetkin,

1655
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: Like which team could you save from their start? Right

1656
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: right right? So it kind of be the it is

1657
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: a double sided sword, two edged swords, sure, sure, I

1658
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 1: think it can be. But I mean, on the rundown here,

1659
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought you had a really good one. I thought

1660
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: Dominic Hashik was one and all those you know when

1661
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: he was here in Buffalo. He got him to the finals.

1662
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: Believe me, he got him to the finals. And it

1663
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: was fun to watch, and I remember thinking, you know that, man,

1664
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 1: oh man, it was. I still say this to everybody

1665
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: who will listen then, because you know, I'm an idiot

1666
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: at hockey anyway, so I can kind of say what

1667
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: I want and nobody cares. But he was the best

1668
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: hockey player I ever saw play at any position he

1669
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: might be. And you know what, it's any that you

1670
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: say that, because I think so quickly people say Wayne Gretzky, Gordie,

1671
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: how Bob yore Um, I don't know. Dominic Hashik, you know,

1672
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: could definitely be considered one of the greatest hockey players

1673
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: to ever play. Yeah, he was. He did things, and

1674
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: he was a little unorthodox, I think, which adds to it.

1675
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: You know, he was this guy all over the all

1676
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: over the place and do it snow angels. He you know,

1677
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: I saw him check a guy at the blue line.

1678
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: Shi used his head knocka puck out of the way.

1679
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: You see him throw the puck up in the air

1680
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: and battered away in the middle of a game. I mean,

1681
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: drop his stick and slot. I mean the guy this

1682
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: you know I love about Dominic Hashick because he was

1683
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: just a goal He just stopped the puck there was

1684
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: no as Marty Burn would say reverse VH or you

1685
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: know this position or technical you know, knee down. No, butterfly, No,

1686
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: this guy was just just stop the puck, Just stop

1687
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: the puck. Yeah, he was amazing. We're seeing I'm sitting

1688
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: here silence watching and of him on MSG and it

1689
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: was just such a blast and he had so many

1690
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: things going. And this was my error when I when

1691
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: I was in Buffalo, when I started to you know,

1692
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: really get into you know, the Saves and look outside

1693
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: of myself and be a Buffalo guy, and I wanted

1694
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: to be the you know, and it was so fun.

1695
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: I know this is off topic from what we're talking about,

1696
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: but its Buffalo related with Sabers and Bills friends when

1697
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 1: you played here, because when I played here, the Bills

1698
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: and the Sabers players and it's hard because you know,

1699
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: you go watch them, but you never get a chance

1700
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: to interact with because you guys are in the midst

1701
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: of your season in the same time we are, and

1702
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: a lot of Bills players and like the Saves, they're

1703
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: van Moose in the off season, they're out of town,

1704
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: so they never really crossed paths. So m I did,

1705
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean Razor and I got pretty well acquainted like that.

1706
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: So I knew because back in the day, you guys

1707
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 1: played at one o'clock on Sunday and the Sabers played

1708
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: six o'clock or four o'clock or five o'clock on a Sunday,

1709
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: a double head, and you guys all ended up at

1710
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Max after a couple of times like that, A

1711
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 1: man one or two, right, I don't know every Sunday,

1712
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: every sund everyday. Yeah, so there was some of that.

1713
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: And I know this too. There was a lot of

1714
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of respect for what those guys did,

1715
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: and uh of being fans of it. I know a

1716
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: lot of the players, particularly a lot of the offensive

1717
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: lineman had tickets. You know, they'd get Sabers tickets and

1718
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: sit in the same seats every every week, and uh,

1719
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: it was always fun. But I as far as you know,

1720
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: rescuing a guy from a bad team, I am Hashi

1721
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: is a great one. I hate to say it, but

1722
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 1: back then, you know, he was the only player they had,

1723
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: but they did get to the finals with him, so

1724
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: I think, and I think allowing him to be the

1725
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: workhorse to make that happen, it's a great reward for

1726
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: people here in Buffalo, Ohio. Man, it was fun. He

1727
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: had Rick Jennerette in his prime making those calls. And

1728
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: you know, they were the hardest. They were. They were

1729
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: a good team. They were, they were, they weren't. I mean,

1730
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit there and say they were

1731
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 1: a Cup contender by any means, but without Dominic Hashik

1732
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: and I think any player on that team, I think

1733
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: any player on that team would agree. I mean, they

1734
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: might have been good enough to squeak into the playoffs,

1735
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: and I don't even I don't even know if they did.

1736
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: They were like eight seats and right final, right there

1737
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: you go, they were, so they were barely good enough

1738
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: to squeak in and with with the greatest goal, arguably

1739
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: greatest player to ever play. But that you know, that's

1740
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: a great question there. When you say about Dominic Hashing,

1741
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: he could be, he could be one of the greatest athletes,

1742
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: but hockey players to ever play. I still, like I said,

1743
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: he's the greatest player I ever saw play at any position.

1744
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: And just because of what you said, he did what

1745
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do, and he was different than

1746
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: everybody else. He didn't care what he looked well, and

1747
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, how about this The way he came up too,

1748
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, traded from Chicago is kind of like a

1749
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, throw throw in. You know, it wasn't really

1750
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: you know the reason why he was coming here wasn't

1751
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: brought in to be the goalie. And then all of

1752
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, you have this, you have this amazing goaltender.

1753
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know that. And you look around

1754
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: and for fans here in Buffalo, nobody's gonna reach down

1755
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: and say, wow, I wish Dan Marino would have gotten

1756
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: to another super Bowl, or maybe Dan Fouts going to

1757
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. But certainly Archie Manning falls into that

1758
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: as a as a guy, an old player who was

1759
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 1: never on a really good team. Uh wow, I mean

1760
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: it's basketball players. We can think it's a good one

1761
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: that I was going to say basketball players because it's

1762
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James. You could say Lebron James right now, because

1763
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: he's on a very average team all of a sudden,

1764
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: well not anymore. Now he's with Law, he's with LA.

1765
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean those are but yeah, that's hey, listen,

1766
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: he picked it. He picked it. You know, you can't

1767
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: he can rescue himself. He did rescue himself. He left twice.

1768
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: Now he's in LA. We'll see how this one comes.

1769
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: He rescued himself. Oh that's that's a different sport from

1770
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 1: his own hometown from Wow, that's got a stake and

1771
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: his things. Tom in the back, dude is Tom's from Cleveland? Right?

1772
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, and this is wondering. Jack says that Archie

1773
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: Manning was a guy who was good and needed rescued

1774
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: from a bad team. He's the poster child for that conversation.

1775
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: That's right. What about and Barry Sanders is another one,

1776
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: an iconic guy, a sweetheart of a guy, and also

1777
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: a unique running back who had an amazing talent. I

1778
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: remember I played against Barry Sanders here in Buffalo. We went,

1779
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: we pushed him to an overtime game and he beat us.

1780
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it was him and whoever else you want

1781
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: to talk about, it was him. He beat us. And

1782
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, the last game of the season, I think

1783
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: it was in nineteen ninety two, maybe ninety three, we

1784
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: had a home field wrapped up and uh we we

1785
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: got him to overtime and he was he was the difference.

1786
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy and never I don't even know

1787
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: if he probably played in the playoffs a couple of times. Maybe,

1788
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: But what a talent, What a talent. We're and we're

1789
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: sitting here, we get quiet, You and I both get quiet.

1790
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: I was getting quiet watching the highlights of Donald go down. Like,

1791
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you played with Thurman? How did these guys

1792
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: not go down? Could you imagine playing tag with Barry Sanders?

1793
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: He'd never be it. You couldn't. You couldn't lay a

1794
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: finger on him. Is he better than Dion? Yeah, that's hard.

1795
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Like you think Dion was a better athlete because he didn't,

1796
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, See Dion was probably a more

1797
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: versatile athlete, but Barry was. Barry was every bit of

1798
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: am I a jerk? If I ask you if you

1799
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: played against bow Jackson, I didn't because he got hurt

1800
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: in the championship game. We won fifty one to three

1801
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: because Bow wasn't there. It wouldn't have been fifty one

1802
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: to three if Bo Jackson have been on the field.

1803
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I think he's the greatest athlete to ever live. One

1804
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: of them is hard to say. There's some guys I

1805
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: played against. It be in the conversation. Yeah, Dion would

1806
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: be in the conversation Bo would be in the conversation.

1807
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson when he was on the football field was

1808
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: a confidence. Although I don't know if Eric Dickerson was

1809
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: as versatile as Dion and Boh, there are some other guys.

1810
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: And here's the thing that the acid test for me

1811
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 1: is when when those guys were playing, and they'd played

1812
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: for a while, you'd see it. Get guys who had

1813
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: played against him, and it's a you know how it

1814
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: is it while we say we respect all these guys,

1815
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about said, yeah, he's a good player.

1816
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: You know, I enjoyed playing. He's a tough You get

1817
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: into the locker room and these guys go, hey, they

1818
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: start whispering, They go that guy is different. That guys

1819
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: they start to lower their voice. It's none of this

1820
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: yah yab you know, it's none of the you know,

1821
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: busting chops laughing about Hey he did this to you.

1822
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, that guys unbelievable because that's a tough crowd.

1823
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: And that guys were saying that about Bo Jackson, they

1824
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: were saying that about Dion Sands, they were said it

1825
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: about Eric Dickerson. When I came into the league, he

1826
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: had just rushed for two thousand, twenty one hundred yards.

1827
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: They were like, going, that guy is a freak of nature.

1828
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that you remember being Like in hockey,

1829
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: we have you know, when you look at the lineup

1830
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: before the games, certain guys are underlying, like look out

1831
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: for this guy. He's one of the best players. He's

1832
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: an offensive sniper. And you circle the physically threatening guys,

1833
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: the guys that can hurt you physically. So, I mean,

1834
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: who were some of the guys that you regularly remember

1835
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: playing against on a weekly basis year after year that

1836
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: were guys that just were out to absolutely rip your

1837
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: head up. Well, the guys that you always worry about

1838
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: are the ones who can score. You know. Dion was

1839
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: always one. He you knew if he had the ball

1840
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: in his hands, could he run you over and score?

1841
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: He wouldn't run you over, but he had a good

1842
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: stiff arm. He was you know, he's a little more

1843
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: physical to some of the other guys. But Dion when

1844
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: he had the ball, he had the joystick. I mean,

1845
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: he was the one work in the game. I mean,

1846
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: the game was his when he had the ball in

1847
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: his hands. It was unbelievable and I am watching it

1848
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: on film. He was like that bo Jackson was all

1849
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: of it. He was huge, built like an action figure

1850
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: and could outrun anybody on the field and and you

1851
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: felt like in a bar fight he wins, you know,

1852
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean he was just everything and and he was

1853
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: going to have the ball a lot. So you knew

1854
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 1: that both the only reason that the Raiders ever got

1855
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: BC didn't give it to him every time, you know,

1856
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: you couldn't give it to him every play. That guy

1857
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: was different. Yeah, So there was a handful again, that's it.

1858
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a handful of guys that are those guys,

1859
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: and that's that. Barry Sanders was one who was when

1860
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: he had you know, you just figure he could go

1861
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the distance every play on an off tackle, play on

1862
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: a pass, play, on a spread play, a sweet play.

1863
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Any So there were a handful of guys like that

1864
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: that you know, like I said, when people talked about

1865
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: when big strong football accomplished, NFL players would talk about him,

1866
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: they'd whisper, who's who's the guy that dominated in college

1867
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: went to? His name was Marcus. There was an ESPN

1868
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: special on him. He retired put on like he was

1869
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: up to like Marcus Marcus Duprix. Listen, the thing that

1870
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 1: sets a lot of those guys apart is what's between

1871
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: their ears. They're intelligent, they have a good self sense

1872
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: of self. You talked Den Sanders. He was like Neon

1873
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Dion and he had this persona and all that, and

1874
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: he kind of worked at like an altar wrestler when

1875
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: he was off. You know, he took care of a

1876
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: lot of people. He was a genuine, caring, intelligent human

1877
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: being who had a lot of people that he cared

1878
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: for and took care of. He was a completely different guy,

1879
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: an outstanding guy, but he had this persona because it

1880
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: it meant in Zeros at the end of his contract.

1881
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: He was a celebrity and he worked it. He worked it.

1882
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna go awesome. And this is the kind of

1883
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: stuff like it's true. You get talking in the back

1884
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: and we like at nine thirty you come in some days,

1885
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Craig and I are sitting here talking. Next thing, you know,

1886
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Speaker 1: we look at the clock and uh, you know we've

1887
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 1: been talking with Steve until nine fifty nine, right just

1888
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: time to time that you should have been on the

1889
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Speaker 1: air again where it is one Bill's Live. We're gonna

1890
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Speaker 1: come back We're a quick segment before we get to

1891
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Speaker 1: the top of the hourra Lorenzo Alexander's coming back. We're

1892
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Speaker 1: gonna have a talk a little bit more about training camp.

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Speaker 1: Just around the corner. This is One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Steve Task along with Andrew Peters. You

1896
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 1: can give us a call eight O three oh five

1897
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: fifty if you have any great players that you want

1898
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: to rescue from a bad team, or if you have

1899
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: any memories about Jim Kelly and his heroic about Jim

1900
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Kelly himself in regards to his hugely heroic speech last

1901
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 1: night at the Jimmy the Perseverance Award that he accepted.

1902
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: We've been talking about memories and athletes that I played

1903
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: against and all of that that we're special and different.

1904
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: In the midst of that conversation, Andrew's computer just went dead.

1905
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: So now he's pay that's right, that's right. You did

1906
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: yeoman's work today. He did. It's awesome and thanks for

1907
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: coming in. I love it. I was looking forward to

1908
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: doing this with you more than I was a little

1909
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: break in the action until Dan Dunlevy came in and

1910
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: then I was Then I was really happy. There you go,

1911
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Speaker 1: There you go. Lorenzo Alexander's coming up Buffalo Bill's linebacker

1912
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Speaker 1: training camps around the corner. We're gonna ask him what

1913
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: advice he'd give to rookies, or what are the some

1914
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: of the last minute changes he does, or you know,

1915
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: things that he preps to do. And I asked what

1916
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 1: we asked him about hazing too. We had a conversation about,

1917
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, how much it's changed in football training camps

1918
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: about hazing and all that that's gone on. And I

1919
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I as hockey training camp changed all that

1920
01:33:55,080 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: much over the years. Um, well, it depends on over

1921
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: the years. Yeah, I would say that, Like, you know,

1922
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: back in the seventies, eighties, early nineties, I think they

1923
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: used to be pretty, you know, pretty rigorous. But I think, um,

1924
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: I think now they're I don't want to say they're

1925
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: a breeze, but they're not nearly as hard as they

1926
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: used to be. Because before the one CBA you were

1927
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: you had to the lockout. You could only spend three hours,

1928
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 1: um for the first week at training camp. And now

1929
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: this might have changed, might be the first three days

1930
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Speaker 1: now but used to be the first week used to

1931
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: be sanctioned that you could only be at the rink

1932
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: for three hours. So that was that was put in

1933
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: place to get rid of two days and so you

1934
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: can arrive at the rink at nine, you gotta be

1935
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: out of there by noons, so it means you gotta

1936
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: get your workout. That was training camp. That was training

1937
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,480
Speaker 1: camp three hours for the first week. It was borderline

1938
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,560
Speaker 1: just extended off standard off season. Just get back And

1939
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: that's not even that's not even like a skate around. Oh,

1940
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, Lindy Ruff, Lindy Ruff, and

1941
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's that's exactly right. I mean, you know,

1942
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: you're you're now you're what you're doing is you're you're

1943
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: toying with them and you're saying, Okay, let's see how

1944
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: badly you can kill us in three hours. And so

1945
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: now you're walking out of there after three hours and

1946
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: you're you're stiff and you're tight because you just did

1947
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: a bag skate at the end for the ages and

1948
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: a workout that was I mean, you'd almost rather do

1949
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: a light skate in the morning in a hard half

1950
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: hour or hour in the in the in the evening.

1951
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Speaker 1: But whatever. Yeah, you know what I want to ask

1952
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 1: Lorenzo is is because he's in the game of football,

1953
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 1: what is he thirty three now thirty four? Yeah, I

1954
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: mean he's no spring chicken right in the in the

1955
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: in the life of football, that is right. So I

1956
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: just I've always asked players in one or two, you know,

1957
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: guys that age through their sport, if they change their

1958
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: training regimen. Yeah, like, did you ever have to change

1959
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: as you went through because certain certain things your shoulder

1960
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: couldn't do. That's the whole reason you quit because you

1961
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: can't train hard anymore because you know, you can't bench,

1962
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: you can't do squats, you can't you can't even run

1963
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: some days because you're so beat up. But the thing

1964
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: about that you may not know about Lorenzo. He he

1965
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: was a three hundred and fifteen pounder when he came

1966
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: out of college. He was a down lineman, had his

1967
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt, and they said, listen, you're not

1968
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: going to make this team in that like that. You're

1969
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a stand up athlete. So he

1970
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 1: dropped sixty pounds or man, it's more than that. It's

1971
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: like eighty pounds. He dropped and has kept it off.

1972
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: He's like a different human he lost a whole human

1973
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: being and now he's played an entire career as like

1974
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: a different guy and continues to do it. He's really

1975
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: he's I think that he's a kind of an inspirational guy.

1976
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: And we have him on the show all the time.

1977
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: He's awesome, but he's he's thirty five, he's been in

1978
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: the league twelve years, and he's one of the guys

1979
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: and you I've seen other guys do it. He transformed

1980
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: himself to stay in the league, and so it's it's

1981
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: a testament to what it takes. I never knew that

1982
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: that he lost that much weight. I didn't either. You

1983
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: can't tell by looking at him, and I kind of

1984
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: I was like, now I've been I say it all

1985
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: the time, talk about him all the time. How how

1986
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: impressed I am by that? Because I can't do it.

1987
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Could you imagine like, oh, all right, we're gonna he's

1988
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: coming on with us at the top of the air,

1989
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. I mean, we've we've gone

1990
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: over this is a short segment. Thanks um for let

1991
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: me know that. Jay, We're gonna take you. Forgot about that.

1992
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I know right we went along in the last one

1993
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: exactly all right, We'll be back One Bill's Live from

1994
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Lorenzo Alexander joins us next on Buffalo

1995
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Hello Bills Radio Network. Sports Update. The two

1996
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,839
Speaker 1: eighteen ESPIS took place last night. Hall of Fame quarterback

1997
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly won the Jimmy V Award for perseverance in

1998
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: the emotional speech, and he thanked his son Hunter for

1999
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: teaching him the definition of toughness and to never give up.

2000
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Alex Solvetchkin won the twenty eighteen sp Award for the

2001
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Best Male Athlete, becoming the first NHL player to win

2002
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the award, and the USA Women's ice hockey team was

2003
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: recognized with the Best Game Best Game Award for their

2004
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: gold medal win at the twenty eighteen Pyeongchang Olympics. The

2005
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons are not planning to renegotiate Julio Jones contract

2006
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: after the All Pro receiver sat out during offseason workouts

2007
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: in hopes of that change. Jones has three years left

2008
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: on the seventy one point two five million dollar contract

2009
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: extension he signed on two fifteen. The Tennessee Titans defensive

2010
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: end Durrell Casey plans to protest social injustice on the

2011
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: field during the national anthem before games this season and

2012
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: will quote take my fine. Casey says his protests in

2013
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: two eighteen will be a continuation of what he did

2014
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: last season when he raised a fist during the playing

2015
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: in the national anthem. The Titans have yet to comment

2016
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 1: on Casey's remarks. The two eighteen British Open began today

2017
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: at Carnousti Golf Links in Angus, Scotland. The championship is

2018
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 1: being held from today until Sunday, July twenty second. The

2019
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers acquired prized All Star shortstop Manny Machado

2020
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: from the Baltimore Orioles in the trade last night. The

2021
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: Orioles received five prospects for Machado, whose contract expires at

2022
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: the end of this season. The Bison's lost yesterday against

2023
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: the Norfolk Tides five to four, but the Herd will

2024
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: host the Durham Bulls tonight. And that first pitch is

2025
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: at seven oh five. And that is your sports update.

2026
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one Bill's Live. We're pleased to be

2027
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: joined by Buffalo Bill linebacker and good friend Lorenzo Alexander

2028
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: from Arizona over the phone. Lorenzo, you're on with Steve

2029
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: Tasker and Andrew Peters. Thanks for coming on. How are

2030
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: you doing out there? I'm doing great, Fellas. I just

2031
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: to join the sunshine, to sit unass hanging out with

2032
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: my daughter by to go grab some lunch and just

2033
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: u and join the rest of my free time until

2034
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: we start up here in a week or so pilates class.

2035
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,799
Speaker 1: There's something you never heard back in the early nineties.

2036
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Eight that's true, that's true, that's true. What is there

2037
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: any thing you got to get done before training camp? Now?

2038
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Pretty much as everything is in order here in Arizona,

2039
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just, you know, soaking up as

2040
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: much time with the kids and my wife as possible.

2041
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 1: So we're actually having a barbecue on Saturday at the

2042
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: house and Obama is flying in and we'll have some

2043
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: friends that are here locally come over and just enjoy

2044
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: those last few days. It's kind of hanging out fellowships,

2045
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 1: and then I'm ready to go to work when I

2046
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: come back. Uh fly back Monday, report Wednesday. So tell

2047
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: me about this when you get back into training camp

2048
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: and you say it's a two and a half week

2049
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:35,600
Speaker 1: training camp, and you're gonna get into zipping in the

2050
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: season starts in September. When will your family join you

2051
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: in Buffalo or will they Yeah, they actually will come up.

2052
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: They actually get a chance to go to Dizzey World

2053
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: before they come down with the kids and one of

2054
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 1: our friends, and they should be there. They like to

2055
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: come in training camp. My kids love it, especially my son,

2056
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: because they used to come in the locker room, hang

2057
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: out with the guys, come on the field and play.

2058
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: So I think they all actually get there like the

2059
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: first then in the first week of August is to

2060
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: come down and kick me out and seeing me and stuff. Lorenzo,

2061
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a tweet from your teammate Preston Brown.

2062
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: He said that you pretty much beat him into the ground.

2063
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this, but this is

2064
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Yeah, I saw the tweet I retweeted yesterday.

2065
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: He's actually in town. We're working out together, and I

2066
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: just told him he can't he can't reveal any of

2067
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: my secrets to my thoughts that I'm able to play

2068
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: when I'm thirty five and getting older. But he does.

2069
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, we playing at a high level still so,

2070
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 1: but we're having a good time out here actually working

2071
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 1: out my guy, Thomas Weather's soul the world with out

2072
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: trainer trained a lot of guys, a lot of first

2073
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: rounders back and uh find me the late nineties, early

2074
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,879
Speaker 1: two thousands, and uh it's now relocating out here in Arizona.

2075
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: I was kind of reconnected with him, talk a little

2076
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: bit about you know, coming back, you're coming back to

2077
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: a much gonna be a much different looking team when

2078
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: you get back here. New guys on your side of

2079
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 1: the football. You've had all the OTAs, you've had it.

2080
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: We've had you on a bunch of times. But now

2081
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: you've been back, taking a deep breath, and you're about

2082
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: ready to take the big plunge into the season. How

2083
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: do you feel about your team? I feel good about it.

2084
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, we laid the ground working old kas

2085
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,720
Speaker 1: in the minicamp, the foundation, and now you have to

2086
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of pick up and continue to do that. Land

2087
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: that foundation during training camp and really come together and

2088
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: obviously throughout this entire process. Then who want to start

2089
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback is going to be seeing how some of

2090
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 1: our young guys. Who's going to kind of rise to

2091
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 1: the top kind of like with Matt Milano and Tordavis

2092
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: did last year, because we're really going to need, you know,

2093
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: some guys here and there to really step up and

2094
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: play beyond maybe their years in the league to help

2095
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 1: clubs obviously to get back to the playoffs and ultimately

2096
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: make a run out of championship. So that's all the

2097
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 1: things that you want to start looking at and building

2098
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: the pond as soon as we get back and hit

2099
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: the ground running. Lorenzo, I was talking to Steve before

2100
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: you got on the line with us, and one of

2101
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: the things I want to know thirty five. In any sport,

2102
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: football hockey, you know, it's it's tough on the body.

2103
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: Your bodies are. You're not a spring chicken in the

2104
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: league anymore. You're still a young guy, but but compared

2105
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 1: to your peers you're older. Have you had to adjust

2106
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: your training style or due to just the wear and

2107
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 1: tear that your body's taken over the years. Yeah, I mean, well,

2108
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me is work smarter,

2109
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: not harder. I think when you're younger, obviously your body

2110
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: can hand the way more pounding, way more grinding, and

2111
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: quite frankly, we've kind of moved away from that mindset anyway.

2112
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I think in the sports realm of training of let's

2113
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: work efficiently and we're smart, And I think you said

2114
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: in all sports, especially with the Bills, we've actually had

2115
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: a great sports science team, Joe and Joe who are

2116
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: in there and really making sure that the way we

2117
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: train is the most productive and it's going to get

2118
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: get the most out of any guy that that's on

2119
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: our team. And that's really the mindset I've taken over

2120
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: the years, each year trying to tweet things and knowing

2121
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: that at thirty five, I have years and years of

2122
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: muscle memory built up, so I don't necessarily have to

2123
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: focus on or grind it out or do a thousand reps.

2124
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: I just have to make sure I can steal fire

2125
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: at a high intensity and call upon my muscles or

2126
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: whatever I need to when I need them. So it's

2127
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: really more focusing on my sentral nervous system, quick firing,

2128
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: get in, get out, sock the system, and then move

2129
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: on and make sure I'm recovering so I could do

2130
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,640
Speaker 1: the same thing next day. You know you told us

2131
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: you get a flying back next week. Give us a

2132
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: quick timeline about what you expect when you get back here,

2133
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: you're like, you're gonna fly you know, you gotta get

2134
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: your barbecue in on Saturday and get some time and

2135
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: all that, but you gotta fly back and you're probably

2136
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 1: gonna start bumping into a lot of your teammates back

2137
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Now, there's a couple of them that

2138
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: have trickled in and we've been seeing them work out

2139
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. The places the place of a ghost town

2140
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 1: here now, But give us a timeline. What's the club

2141
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: told you about where you gotta be and when you

2142
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: got to be there next week? Yeah, so you also,

2143
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll come back Monday for then then I'll get a

2144
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: massage to the actually look at the facility, probably get

2145
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: a little a little warm up end just because of that,

2146
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: flights getting tight, and then we don't have to be

2147
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: down technically until Rochester and be completely I think checked

2148
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: in until about ten thirty and that's when you see guys,

2149
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: maybe go grab some breakfast with somebody, and then we

2150
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: have our conditioning test that day, start our first meeting,

2151
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 1: and then it's you know the acclamation tunes again. I

2152
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: think we have two days of like an ota stylet

2153
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: practice and then we throw them pads on and start

2154
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: start putting in some real work. What day do you

2155
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: have to report? Wednesday the twenty fifth. We have to

2156
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: be we have to report and be down in Rochester

2157
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: check here by ten thirty. All right, So tell me this.

2158
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: I want five Actually on the Instigators, we do a

2159
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: summertime six pack. So I want six things that Lorenzo

2160
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: Alexander has to put in this car to move into camp. Wow,

2161
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: six things that I need. So I'm gonna guess the

2162
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 1: fan is the obvious one. I don't know if you

2163
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: guys get TVs. But a fridge, I mean, a blender,

2164
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: any of that, Like, well, yeah, I'll have, I'll have,

2165
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: don't I have my fridge, Michael Wade, my laptop, my

2166
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Apple Watch so I can listen to my tunes wherever

2167
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm at, even if I don't have my phone on me.

2168
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: And then I need my like my phone roller because

2169
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I owe my dormantick because I do a lot of

2170
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: treatment all my stuff at night. When I made my

2171
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: rom my phone roller. Now there's there's a guy that's

2172
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: the unexpected one right there. I can see you go. Yeah,

2173
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: the fridge, I get, no question. In the microwave are

2174
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: the air conditioning in there right now, Lorenzo, because us

2175
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: un johsh Fishers. I mean, it's probably the best college

2176
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 1: training camp environment of facility I've ever used that. I mean,

2177
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,480
Speaker 1: they're pretty top nastre as far as all the amenities

2178
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:32,759
Speaker 1: that we need to have a guess, the most peaceful

2179
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: or enjoyable camp that you can have. So it's pretty nice.

2180
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: Uff what time, What time in the morning they get

2181
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: you guys going, because I remember that everybody's heard the

2182
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 1: story about the air horn going off in the in

2183
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: the in the hallway, and you know what time you

2184
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 1: guys got to get at it For me is not

2185
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: even that bad, I think, I think wake up calls

2186
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: at seven all I'm already up to going because meetings

2187
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: don't start so eight. But most guys are either up

2188
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: or getting breakfast. You have a couple of guys that

2189
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: sleeps in a little bit, but for the most part,

2190
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: I think most guys are up during that time because

2191
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: my kids wake up at six, so I'm up at

2192
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: six anyway, so I've been up a full hour for

2193
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: that horn even goes off. They don't even catch me

2194
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: off guard. Now back in the day, they to wake

2195
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: you up at like six o'clock. And you know, so

2196
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 1: that horn would get a lot of guys. So it's

2197
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: not as bad as you could be wanting up out

2198
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 1: of time. So give me one. Give me one way

2199
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: that Lorenzo Alexander flexes his muscle with his seniority at

2200
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: training camp amongst the young guys. Which way you know?

2201
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: I have to I like to hold it for more situations,

2202
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 1: but I will tell a guy to get in my

2203
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: way if I'm getting if I need to get stretched

2204
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: from treating it. It's only stuff like that, get off

2205
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: the tape and table time to get stretched. It sitis

2206
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: like you know this just you have to normally sit

2207
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: in line and get ready for practice that I'll move

2208
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: guys out of the way. But if you know, we

2209
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: in line getting lunch, stuff like that, that is moving

2210
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: at a pretty good pace. I could care less about it.

2211
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Do you Is there any form of We were talking

2212
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: about this too, about how hazing has changed over the years.

2213
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: Do the Bills have a program to haze guys and

2214
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: keep them uh acclimate them into the pro game? Nah?

2215
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean I was actually on Doug and wolf this

2216
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 1: morning talking to Doug Ron Wolfley, and we were talking

2217
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: about the biggest changes. I mean, it's night and day

2218
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: from when you've got when you're in the league season,

2219
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: even when I first got in here. Um, it's just

2220
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: been a culture change, which is cool because they should

2221
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: be so nerve racking for most guys, especially when you

2222
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: know somebody's gonna make me sing and somebody's gonna try

2223
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 1: to take me up and throw my stuff in the

2224
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: in the cold tub. And we really kind of, you know,

2225
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: moved away with that. And obviously we've had incident throughout

2226
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 1: the league that I think it's expertited that as well,

2227
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: that it's kind of turned into some bullying stuff. But

2228
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean the things that we do that are kind

2229
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,839
Speaker 1: of fun and nature like we u the linebackers in particular,

2230
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: we have rookie fingers where they have to get up

2231
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: in front of us and it's real fun. They tell

2232
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 1: us two current events stories, two real stories about themselves,

2233
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,600
Speaker 1: two funny stories. We always get stories from Florida, you know,

2234
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: the people down to Florida kind of crazy and then

2235
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 1: we'll get a couple of DALs and so it's real fun.

2236
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: Light aheaded, are lighthearted, and uh, it's just a chance

2237
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,640
Speaker 1: to see guys get up and kind of you know,

2238
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: you get to see who they are and things they

2239
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: in't treat them. So that's kind of fun. Give us

2240
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 1: one now when you let's go back to the football

2241
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 1: side of it. When you guys go out and put

2242
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 1: the pads on, give us an insight. And I know

2243
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 1: because I know when I when I was first in

2244
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 1: the league and even later in my career, we were

2245
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: in pads almost all the time. I mean, we were hitting.

2246
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: There was no restrictions on what we could do physically,

2247
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 1: although I had a really good coach who didn't force

2248
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: us to do that. It's almost the point now where

2249
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: you all the players almost look forward to pads because

2250
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: it gives them some more level of preparation because they

2251
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: know they're not gonna have to do it for six

2252
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. Do the guys almost look forward

2253
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: to putting the pads on because it does seem like

2254
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: you're playing football again. Yeah, of course, especially initially right

2255
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: because we've been in helmets pretty much all the spring,

2256
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: and you get a chance to just kind of you know,

2257
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 1: get back into things, get your grooves, get your pad

2258
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: level right, get to hit somebody, you know, versus kind

2259
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: of maybe pulling off or you know, he can really

2260
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: show your coach, I could have made that play. So

2261
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely fun because it starts sending a lot

2262
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 1: more like football and just getting getting back out there

2263
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: and doing what you love to do. So we always

2264
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: love it. But it's still it's still okay, right I think, uh,

2265
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, people think that it's gotten soft. I mean,

2266
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: I think football back in was just so brutal. You know,

2267
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: two of days, three hours of the morning, three hours

2268
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: of night was just when you look at it is

2269
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: like this is ridiculous. Why why are we doing this?

2270
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: But football inherently is a tough sport. So even after

2271
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 1: maybe the first week outs, we're like, okay, I got

2272
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: it now, you know, let's pull off here and there,

2273
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, when we can, especially for guys that are

2274
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: lottle bit older, just so that we're ready for what

2275
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: we really needed, you know, and nest week one of

2276
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: the seasons. My last question for you is you're you're

2277
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: thirty five years old. You're entering your thirteenth season in

2278
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. We've heard about players that say they want

2279
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: to play until they're forty. We've heard Tom Brady say

2280
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 1: maybe forty five. Do you have Have you started to

2281
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: think about how long you want to play or are

2282
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: you just going to listen to your body. Yeah, I'm

2283
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: listening to my body, listening to my wife. You know,

2284
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm still playing at a fairly high high rate, and

2285
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's hard for players, especially when

2286
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: you're doing well, to kind of walk away from something

2287
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: that you really are passionate about doing. I still love

2288
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: the process of love, working out, love being in the building,

2289
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: watching see them, all the little things that make you,

2290
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, make you a professional in this league. So

2291
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm it's hard. So every year we

2292
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 1: kind of reevaluate it and trying to find that happy

2293
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: place to where I play. I'm still playing a high

2294
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: level and I'm not walking away with the game kind

2295
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: of breaking me physically, So you know, it's it's a

2296
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: year to year things for me at this point. And

2297
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: as as I'm still playing a high level, it's gonna

2298
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: be hard for you to walk away. But I know

2299
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: it's coming here sooner than later, whether it's my choice

2300
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 1: or the team stories. At some point, probate Tim is

2301
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: going to win out on me. Well, let me tell y,

2302
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: I'll give you a piece of advice. A long time ago,

2303
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 1: we had I came to Buffalo and we brought an

2304
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: older player in who's who had been a truly great

2305
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Player's name was Art Still. It was a defensive end

2306
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,560
Speaker 1: for the Kantacity Chiefs for years. A tremendous guy and

2307
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: a great individual. He's a real asset to our team.

2308
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: They brought him in, and he is. He was old

2309
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 1: when we got him, and he but he still had

2310
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 1: some gas in his tank. And everybody's always asked him,

2311
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: how do you play so well for so long? Just

2312
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: the kind of questions we're asking you low and he said,

2313
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 1: and he never would say, kind of defer those questions,

2314
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: you know about retiring, and they go, how long are

2315
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: you going to play? And so finally on a game,

2316
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: on a flight back from a preseason game, Art said,

2317
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 1: let me tell you how long you play? And I

2318
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: mean the whole plane got quiet, and Art said, you

2319
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: play as long as you possibly can, and then you

2320
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: play one more year. And that's that's the rule of thumb.

2321
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 1: Don't give it up until the game gives you up.

2322
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: Nice to know that you guys have a choice. When

2323
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 1: you get to walk out. Guys like me get poofed

2324
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: out the door. No problem. It's like see a body. Well,

2325
01:52:57,920 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you learned too, And Lorenzo, you'll

2326
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: test to this. They don't. They're not They didn't. They're

2327
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 1: not retiring my jersey. The game's gonna move around it.

2328
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: They'll wash my jersey. I mean, they just give it

2329
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: to the next guy in line. The game is gonna

2330
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: go on without us. Yeah, that You've had a great career.

2331
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: You're doing, continue to have a great career. I can't

2332
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: wait to see a training camp. You can come on

2333
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 1: the show with us anytime, all right, Yeah, I look

2334
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: forward to that. I'll see down here in Roget Lorenzo

2335
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,680
Speaker 1: Alexander out in Arizona. Thanks for coming on. He was

2336
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Take hot Line, Subway Eat Fresh.

2337
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: Lorenzo a guy who and I was showing you the

2338
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 1: pictures in the break. I've talked to you about it,

2339
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: how he transformed himself. I say it every time. People

2340
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: are probably sick of it, but every time Lorenzo's on.

2341
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how big a transformation physically he

2342
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 1: went through to make sure he could play in the

2343
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 1: league for as long as he has. He was a

2344
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: three hundred pounder. I didn't know how to bring that

2345
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: up to him on the show because I didn't know

2346
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: or just oh, I talked to him about it all

2347
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: the time. That's probably physick of it. Well he's he's

2348
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: still on, Lorenzo, Are you still on? Oh? Okay, I

2349
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: thought Steve was signing. I thought I thought I thought

2350
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 1: you were gonna like I ever, I do because Steve

2351
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: showed me a picture of you playing at Cow Obviously

2352
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 1: great jersey number number seventy six that was mine. But

2353
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean you look like a completely different like athletes.

2354
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean you don't. You don't have a spare tire

2355
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: or around I mean you, yeah, I had. I used

2356
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: to carry a couple with me back in the day. Yeah.

2357
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: But I mean I talk about like that and how

2358
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 1: like that alone must have added years to your football career,

2359
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: just getting down and changing your changing changing everything basically right.

2360
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's made me a more versions out player.

2361
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean being just a defensive tackle versus being able

2362
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: to play defensive vand linebacker and cover kicks to just

2363
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: added value to my career. And it's given me or

2364
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: given coaches for fatility to use me at different areas,

2365
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: which is definitely allowed me to stay around the league

2366
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: a lot longer than I probably would have if I

2367
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: just played, you know, a single position. And plus the

2368
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: way the game is played now, you got to be

2369
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: able to line up and multiple wal positions and multiple

2370
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: areas because decent the coordinators love to get uh you know,

2371
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: very um unique in their designs they draw up and

2372
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: uh you know. And other than that, I mean just

2373
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: my health in general, not caring answering that around and

2374
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: actually weight my joints, you know, low back, all that

2375
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Uh feels a lot better than the

2376
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: water if I had to carry another seventy five pounds

2377
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 1: around every day. Who says that to you back when

2378
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: you're when you're at that point, Who says that you

2379
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: need to change your body to change the player to

2380
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: play long? Right? It was It was never something that

2381
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: was spoken. It was more done out of necessity because

2382
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm moving. So I was a dtackle play the offensive line.

2383
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 1: We brought in Alfred Haynes work one year and then

2384
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 1: I moved to defensive end, so I had to lose

2385
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: some weight. Um you know, I'm in there trying to

2386
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: figure out counting numbers. Like a lot of young guys

2387
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 1: do I'm trying to figure out, Okay, how can I

2388
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: have value? I need to be in special teams. I

2389
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: need to cover kicks. So I'm begging Danny Smith every day,

2390
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 1: let me cover kicks. Let me cover kicks. And so

2391
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 1: I get on the team, I do well, and then

2392
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I next, kay, well, I want to be at a

2393
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: high level. I need to lose some more weight. But

2394
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to lose weight there and then uh end

2395
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 1: up moving then outside backer when Shanahan came in. So

2396
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: it was just a natural progression. And I think also

2397
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: me recognizing if I wanted to do a more I

2398
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: guess space foul position and more athletic position, I need

2399
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: to lose the weight so I would be more efficient

2400
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: because I could run still at you know, two seventy five,

2401
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 1: two eighty. But towards the end of the year, I

2402
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 1: mean I poured a couple of hamstrings, you know, just

2403
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: chasing guys in the wear and tear of the body.

2404
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 1: So it had to come off in order for me

2405
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: to stay available and for me to execute my job

2406
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 1: at a at a high rate. It sounds it sounds simple,

2407
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 1: no question about it. That it was not easy, but

2408
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 1: simple that you know, you just dropped the weight and

2409
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: become a better athlete, and you just more able to

2410
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: do things. And you've got guys and this is and

2411
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 1: people laughing. That doesn't really sink in with what I'm saying.

2412
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: But maybe you've had guys like this Tutor and Zo.

2413
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: You're you were willing to drop seventy five pounds, you

2414
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 1: were asking to play on special teams. You were doing

2415
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: every little thing you to make yourself viable enough to

2416
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: stay on the team. You've got guys who don't stay

2417
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: in the league because they don't want to cover kicks.

2418
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that. They don't want to

2419
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 1: do that. They don't want to they don't want to

2420
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 1: not go out at night and have a few. They

2421
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 1: don't want to stay in at night. They don't want to.

2422
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 1: There's so much that everybody always says, I'll do anything

2423
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. Well, no, they wouldn't. How

2424
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 1: long did they take Lorenzo to lose that weight. It

2425
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: was probably five or six years old. You know, twenty

2426
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: pounds here and twenty pounds there, and then maybe a year.

2427
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I may stay at the same weight and lose some

2428
01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: more weight. But for me, my tream was always to

2429
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. It wasn't to play linebacker, d

2430
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: tack or to play in or you know, whatever it was.

2431
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be in the NFL and played.

2432
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean what I would love to do play football,

2433
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: so I could care less what it looks like. I

2434
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: tell guys all the time. I mean, I bet most

2435
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: of you guys would rather be a special teams player

2436
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 1: for ten years versus to be a starter maybe two

2437
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: years and then be out in the league. It's definitely

2438
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: kept me around, kept me run, I mean, kept my

2439
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: value high. So I try to, you know, and bark

2440
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: that wisdom acknowledge to guys. And then, you know, guys

2441
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 1: that are not ready to start it give you time

2442
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 1: to develop. It's giving me time to develop in the

2443
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 1: league as a pass rusher. And and uh now you

2444
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 1: know year twelve, when I have you know, twelve facts

2445
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 1: or whatever and you go to the profile, I mean,

2446
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen on your timeline. And I think some

2447
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 1: guys are getting not open minded enough. They've been great

2448
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: their whole life, they're really alter talented, and often times

2449
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: that gets in your way. And I was just fortunate

2450
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 1: enough to have people in my life to keep it

2451
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 1: grounded and humble and to really speak truth in my life,

2452
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: like if you want to play, you gotta do X

2453
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: y Z. And thankfully enough I was smart enough to

2454
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: listen to those people. All well, thanks for staying all

2455
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 1: with us words or appreciate it. It's it's been great

2456
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: to have you on. I can't wait to see in

2457
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: training camp, like I said, and hum and really I

2458
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 1: get it with you. I hope your kids enjoyed training camp.

2459
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: I never did, but my kids always did so yeah. Yeah,

2460
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: they love to go out there and hang out with

2461
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams and Shade and have a great old time. Yeah,

2462
01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 1: it's awfu. It's funding games for them, funding games for them. Thanks, love, appreciate.

2463
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: What were you ever to be able to bring your

2464
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: kids around? How old? Last couple my oldest son was

2465
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: he was eight, I think eight, nine and ten maybe

2466
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 1: the years. That's the one thing, Steve, I wish that

2467
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: I never got to do when I played pro sports,

2468
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 1: of whether it's NHL HL over in Europe, was get

2469
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: to bring my kids around the locker room and that

2470
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 1: like that's you remember being on teams and guys would

2471
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 1: bring their kids in and it was fun for the guys, yeah,

2472
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 1: because they got to interact and act like kids a

2473
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: little bit, talk to kids and act like kids without

2474
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, being considered like not serious about their profession.

2475
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 1: And the kids loved it too. And I guess I

2476
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: just wish I would have been able to do that

2477
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 1: with my guy, but it wasn't good enough to stick

2478
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: around that long. And my son, my son still remembers it,

2479
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I bet it, you know. And it

2480
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: was fun because at that point in my career and

2481
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: we were in such a state that at a place

2482
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: in my career and the team was in a place

2483
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff and stuff that you know, I'd

2484
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: give him to the equipment guys. They'd put him in

2485
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: the gear. He'd go out and he'd carry a bag

2486
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 1: of balls and he'd stand there in hand, you know,

2487
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 1: balls to the coaches or the and coaches during drills,

2488
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 1: you know. And because he was old enough to do that,

2489
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: and he would, you know, he knew how to act.

2490
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 1: And now, is this your son that's playing for Hamilton's. No,

2491
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,360
Speaker 1: this is his older brothers older brother, his older brother brother.

2492
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: The way I got to get out of here today

2493
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 1: because I gotta go up to Hamilton's got a home

2494
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: game tonight, so I gotta get to that. But yeah,

2495
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 1: they remember it, they really remember it. And also one

2496
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: of the things that we did, and this is something

2497
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 1: that I don't know too many people did. My thing

2498
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 1: that I had to get done before training camp. All

2499
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: five kids and my wife and I would go the

2500
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 1: night before training camp started and we would stay in

2501
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: my room and training camp all of us to come on. Yeah, yeah,

2502
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 1: we slumber party in the room all together before training

2503
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 1: camp started. And they'd all come in and they pile in,

2504
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, and they'd bring you know, whatever mattresses or whatever,

2505
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: sleeping black bags and stuff, and you'd watch a movie

2506
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. But the night before your first day camp

2507
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,240
Speaker 1: in the in training camp, yeah, we were the first people.

2508
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: If you had a bad first day, was it always

2509
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 1: on your family? Well yeah, right now if it's hard

2510
02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: to have a first day when all you're doing is

2511
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, getting your blood pressure checking, repeating

2512
02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: in the bottle, you know, getting getting getting direct tested.

2513
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: But it was it was fun. That was a family

2514
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 1: tradition of ours that that my kids still remember and

2515
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: it was fun for us. But we did it gosh,

2516
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: for a handful of years too, Even before we had

2517
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: all of them, we kept doing it. So that's see,

2518
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Those are those are things that the average

2519
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: kid who just grows up in a house with parents

2520
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 1: at work never gets to experience. I mean, prod the

2521
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 1: professional sports lifestyle is extremely unique. I can I'll tell

2522
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, coming up, we've got NFL true false.

2523
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: Also what did we learn? Coming up? Also? And um,

2524
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring this down the home stretch. Got one

2525
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: and half hour left in the show. Andrew Peter Steve

2526
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: Tasker on One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive presented

2527
02:01:47,080 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, And this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

2528
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. It's absolutely freezing cold in

2529
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 1: here in the studio, but it is ball me outside.

2530
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 1: We've got the air conditioner crank in here. I just started.

2531
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 1: I have not seen a crack of light day time

2532
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: since nine thirty this morning. You've been trapped in here.

2533
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a casino, you know right,

2534
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,919
Speaker 1: there's no closing oxygen keeping you awake, and no windows

2535
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: to see you with time and bring your bottles of

2536
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: water every so often. Can I get you something that's great. Yeah,

2537
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 1: all right, it's time for NFL true false, brought to

2538
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:35,839
Speaker 1: you by Yancy's, Fancy New York's artists and cheese. Okay,

2539
02:02:35,920 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 1: we got three of these, Andrew, and here they are.

2540
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: You gotta know I'm telling you false. Yeah. Well, we'll

2541
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 1: have a debate whether we agree or disagree. Here we

2542
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: go number one, and this is the conversation we started

2543
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,920
Speaker 1: the show with. NHL players are tougher than NFL players

2544
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 1: two or false? You want to go, you want me

2545
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 1: to go. I'm so NHL players are tougher false false.

2546
02:02:58,200 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 1: You don't think so. I don't think it's I don't

2547
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 1: think gets that easy as true or false. I think

2548
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: if we were doing Biceller trade, I trade it. Oh yeah, okay,

2549
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 1: but I gotta say, I gotta say the thing. I

2550
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 1: just gotta. I just gotta say false to this one,

2551
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't. I think I'd be ignorant

2552
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: to say that NHL players are tougher than you know what.

2553
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: I think. I think they're probably got tough guys in

2554
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 1: both I say false. I think they're tough as anybody.

2555
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 1: I think they're both equally to you. Got same kind

2556
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: of guys playing pro athletes who endure all these kind

2557
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 1: of things to the same way that they do, although

2558
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: the type of punishment both teams or sports dish out

2559
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 1: is different. I think you gotta be equally tough. And

2560
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: how about this, just playing the sport. You have to

2561
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 1: be tough just playing the sport because you might not

2562
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: be getting rocked in a game game to game basis,

2563
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: but the potential to get rocked and injury is there

2564
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: first things. And here's where the tough part comes in.

2565
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,240
Speaker 1: You get rocked, and it doesn't matter if you feel

2566
02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 1: good or not. You gotta keep going, you know. I mean,

2567
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 1: there's there's a level of expectancy there, of expectation there

2568
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 1: that you know, you listen, you may you may be hurting,

2569
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 1: but you're not injured. So I've been rocked where you

2570
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 1: have nothing coming from it at all, and I've been

2571
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 1: gently hit where it can be some of the worst

2572
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: pain you've experienced, could just be a TI stinger. You know,

2573
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 1: You're like, I didn't expect it to hurt. The most

2574
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: painful thing I ever went to it through on a

2575
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 1: football field, and I got and I got, you know,

2576
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:19,200
Speaker 1: some world class I took some world class shot the

2577
02:04:19,240 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 1: most painful thing I ever went through was I was

2578
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: standing there and a guy got whipped around and his

2579
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 1: cleats went across my shin all the way to the bone.

2580
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:34,240
Speaker 1: That is the only time in my entire life where

2581
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to be able to

2582
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: cope with the pain. Really I I was. I was

2583
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 1: begging for the needle. Man, Just get taken away. Do something.

2584
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 1: Help me. You ever get hit, like a stand up

2585
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: hit and like like in the chest and like your

2586
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 1: whole neck and jaw and everything just go like lockchaw.

2587
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: You just go all tight and like, yeah it feels

2588
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 1: like your head yeah yeah, it just oh yeah, I

2589
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: have But that was you know, in fact, that happened

2590
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 1: on a Monday night game. My family saw it, and

2591
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 1: they saw I showed a quick picture of me on

2592
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 1: the sidelines. That's the only time they got scared because

2593
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:07,640
Speaker 1: they could tell how much pain I was in. And

2594
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 1: you know what, three minutes later I was back on

2595
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 1: the field. It was completely gone. Maile Athlete of the Year.

2596
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: Last night, I charged. I charged at him, his rookie year,

2597
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: Alex Ovechkin. He was playing right wing. I was playing

2598
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 1: left wing. Puck got rimmed around. I was coming off

2599
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:23,320
Speaker 1: the off the bench from a line change. I'm like,

2600
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to smoke the new Russian superstar.

2601
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: And he was six two two thirty five and he

2602
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:32,400
Speaker 1: just braced himself, planted his feet and I went down

2603
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: and I was my hole like from from my chest

2604
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 1: felt like my chest like I didn't go I didn't

2605
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 1: even go down. I just got stood up. But I

2606
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 1: just I remember like leaning over and going back to

2607
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 1: the bench. I was winded, I was pain My short

2608
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: side of it was it was unbelievable. It was a

2609
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 1: two second shift. It really was. So he both say

2610
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: false to NHL players are tougher than I played a

2611
02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 1: minute two that night? Perfect? How many penalty minutes? Zero?

2612
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:06,560
Speaker 1: That that was my last show, all right, number two? NHL, NFL?

2613
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 1: True or false? American football would work at the Olympics.

2614
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 1: There's a conversation out there that the American football game

2615
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 1: might be an Olympic sport in twenty twenty four? Two

2616
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 1: or false? Would it work as an Olympic sport? What? Really?

2617
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: I can't even who who are they going to play against?

2618
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: I know Canada. I'm with you, hey, all those CIAU,

2619
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Are they going to use the

2620
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: NFL rules or the Canadian rules? Are they gonna use?

2621
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, then there's a European league that's over there.

2622
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 1: It's a semipro kind of league. I don't know that

2623
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: there's enough countries who play American football that it would

2624
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: be viable. Well exactly, I mean, just give don't even play.

2625
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 1: Give them the U asked the gold medal, and let's

2626
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:48,839
Speaker 1: move on. So, yeah, that's Doe put it in the Olympics.

2627
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: We'll get a free gold medal. I'm going to say completely.

2628
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false. It wouldn't work. Yeah, because for

2629
02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,760
Speaker 1: so many reasons. It's a complicated sport. There are now

2630
02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: listen to this, and this is the true story. My

2631
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 1: son played at case Western Reserving Cleveland, a Division three school.

2632
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: They took their team or like twenty five thirty of

2633
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 1: their guys from Cleveland in the offseason, flew to Italy

2634
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: and played against a semi pro football team over there,

2635
02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 1: and they were the team was headed to the playoffs

2636
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,920
Speaker 1: and stuff played against him and this Division three football team,

2637
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 1: and this team was headed the playoffs and they were good.

2638
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 1: And Case Western Reserve in Cleveland, Ohio thumped the big time.

2639
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:27,880
Speaker 1: They were playing forty year old guys and it was

2640
02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 1: that kind of you know, and after the game, those

2641
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 1: guys come trapes in with cases of beer into the

2642
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,280
Speaker 1: locker room and that he had a great time. It

2643
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 1: was awesome. But you know that a Division three team

2644
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 1: lumped him up pretty good. So I'm thinking the Olympic

2645
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: Sport thing probably would be I'm gonna say false to

2646
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 1: that too. All Right, here we go. Number three NFL

2647
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 1: true false? Is it easier to play or it is

2648
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 1: easier to play in the NHL at age forty than

2649
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 1: the NFL at age forty two? Or false? Are there

2650
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,880
Speaker 1: forty year old players? There's there's uh, well, Matt Cullen

2651
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 1: was in the league this past year. There are guys

2652
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: that if I'm char's one, I mean I'm probably leaving

2653
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: a couple out. Um, I don't know, Steve, I gotta

2654
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 1: say easier to play in the NFL. So I'm gonna

2655
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 1: say false to this one. I'm gonna say I'm gonna

2656
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: say it's true. Did I say easier to play in

2657
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 1: the It's easier to play the NHL in the NFL. Yeah,

2658
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 1: I'd say true. It is easier to play at forty

2659
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 1: years of age in the end. So I'm saying true

2660
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 1: to this because there's only one guy, well, there's been two.

2661
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: One was a kicker. And if the kicker and a punter, Oh,

2662
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 1: I say, okay, if you're gonna kick and punt, you

2663
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 1: could play to your forty Okay, if you're a kicker.

2664
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:45,360
Speaker 1: Kickers are excluded. Okay, kickers are excluders, excluded punters because

2665
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: they can't get hit. Now, quarterbacks, no, there's there's not

2666
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 1: too many of them that can do it. Um, I

2667
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 1: still say it's I still say the NHL would be

2668
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 1: easier to play at age forty because I agree, but

2669
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:58,280
Speaker 1: there's no position where you could hide them even as

2670
02:08:58,280 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 1: a you know, it's like a kicker and a punter.

2671
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's easier in the NHL because I

2672
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 1: think when you get to that point your game, and

2673
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: you always say this about old athletes, there's always that

2674
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: spot where you get by with guile and technique and

2675
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 1: know it all. You know that kind of thing. Your

2676
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: experience allows you to hang in there and play at

2677
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,960
Speaker 1: a high level even though physically you may be washed up.

2678
02:09:23,640 --> 02:09:28,160
Speaker 1: And there's always that in every sport, but in football

2679
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 1: it's physically demanding enough, and there are enough guys around

2680
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 1: you doing it that you can't get away just with that.

2681
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: If you could have gone back and done any other sport,

2682
02:09:39,120 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: what would it have been? Golf? Maybe? Or probably golf. Yeah,

2683
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 1: and I know some guys are going to throw their

2684
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:49,040
Speaker 1: radios out the window. I probably could have played baseball. Really,

2685
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 1: I hate the sport, but I probably would have been

2686
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 1: pretty good at that. I had some experience playing it

2687
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 1: early in life, and it was and it was something

2688
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,120
Speaker 1: that spoke to me. I was good. Yeah, I share

2689
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 1: the same don't about baseball if you could hit, But

2690
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:04,920
Speaker 1: what is it about baseball that you're not necessarily in

2691
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 1: love with? It's the pace of the game, basically, it's

2692
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 1: and it never really for me. It's not as enough

2693
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 1: of a team sport that football and hockey is. In baseball,

2694
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 1: it's about me and my batting average and about and

2695
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 1: then when I'm out someplace else, it's a pitcher against

2696
02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:22,720
Speaker 1: some other batter, and I'll be there if in case

2697
02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: he hits it. To me, it's not I don't have

2698
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,760
Speaker 1: anything invested in my in my teammates. You know, in

2699
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 1: football and hockey you're in it together. You suffer together,

2700
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 1: you win together. You depend on each other in every

2701
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 1: situation on the ice. Um it's in football, it's even

2702
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:40,720
Speaker 1: more so. I mean, it's a more pronounced. You've got

2703
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 1: guys who will play an entire career in the NFL

2704
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 1: and never touch the ball, you know so, you know,

2705
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 1: so they sacrifice for their teammates, you know so. I've

2706
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: never looked at it though. That spokes. That speaks to me.

2707
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 1: I like that. I like being in it with somebody

2708
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 1: and and having and sacrificing for their good and knowing

2709
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 1: that they have done the same for me. I love

2710
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 1: that way. That and baseball doesn't give you any of that. Yeah,

2711
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean I could ask you about soccer. I feel

2712
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:08,480
Speaker 1: like the World Cup, you know, I like, I see,

2713
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm warming up to soccer the world. That's how

2714
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 1: I am to watch the World Cup. This World Cup,

2715
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:14,920
Speaker 1: for me, I think was probably the most soccer I've

2716
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:17,080
Speaker 1: ever watched in my entire life. And I didn't watch

2717
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 1: even that much, but I can tell you I was

2718
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: blown away by what I mean. It's a completely different

2719
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 1: soccer game than what I was expecting to remember watching

2720
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: from years back when I was a kid. But for me, rugby.

2721
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: I feel like like I would have loved looking back

2722
02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:34,440
Speaker 1: on it, I would have loved to have tried playing rugby.

2723
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 1: Just you know, you go knock a guy around for

2724
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: a bit, then you have a handshaken a beer afterwards,

2725
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like probably the most you know,

2726
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 1: violent gentleman. If you want to steal George Paris's you know,

2727
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:48,520
Speaker 1: clothing brand name away, But that's what they are. They are.

2728
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 1: I played rugby, did you And my last half of

2729
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:54,520
Speaker 1: my senior year in college, when I was done with

2730
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 1: my football eligibility, I played rugby, playing about eight or

2731
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 1: ten matches for Northwestern University and it was awesome. Yeah,

2732
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,800
Speaker 1: fast right fast paced. I was most valuable back in

2733
02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Tournament. I played in like ten matches.

2734
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 1: We went to the Big Ten Tournament. Were you hooker?

2735
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: What position did you play? I was a fullback. I

2736
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 1: was a I was number fifteen. And you know, you

2737
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:17,200
Speaker 1: come in you're kind of filling where you were. I

2738
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:18,600
Speaker 1: was kind of the safety valve. Then I would move

2739
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:20,960
Speaker 1: up into the attack wherever I felt like it. And uh,

2740
02:12:21,480 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 1: it was an absolutely last And the thing about it

2741
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: you said, it's it's a brutal game. Played by gentleman

2742
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 1: and soccer is a gentleman's game played by brutes. Right, so,

2743
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 1: h Rugby is an absolutely brutal physical sport played with

2744
02:12:37,320 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: It's a football tackling kind of thing with no path,

2745
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 1: but it's dirty. Two guys are eye gouging, tearing their

2746
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,160
Speaker 1: ears on that. But yeah, it's vicious. So you want

2747
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:48,600
Speaker 1: to know somebody. So my I was drafting the OHL

2748
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,200
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven. I was seventeen years old and

2749
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 1: I was a six foot four hundred and eighty pounds

2750
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:56,360
Speaker 1: skinny kid. And we had a fitness test. And I

2751
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 1: went to my fitness test in Oshawa and I was seventeen.

2752
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't bench one hundred eighty five pounds once. And

2753
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 1: I remember I had a very close family friend. His

2754
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 1: name is Mark Cosgrove, and he was he was a

2755
02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 1: rugby player, played for Canada, traveled around like, played for

2756
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:14,000
Speaker 1: all these international tournaments and stuff. And I was driving,

2757
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:16,400
Speaker 1: I was driving, I was walking by his house one day,

2758
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:19,000
Speaker 1: he was driving by and he was pulling his driveway

2759
02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:22,480
Speaker 1: and I was looking for a summer training partner. Now

2760
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 1: he was four years five years older than I was. Well,

2761
02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 1: I trained with a rugby player when I was seventeen.

2762
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:30,520
Speaker 1: I told you so. I went to my fitness test

2763
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 1: in early June in Oshawa. I went back in September.

2764
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 1: I went from doing one eight five zero times to

2765
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 1: twenty times in one summer, just based on how this

2766
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:44,800
Speaker 1: guy trained. They are phenomenal athletes. Like the endurance they

2767
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:48,440
Speaker 1: need to be in, the strength, the power, toughness, toughness.

2768
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough sport. And I loved playing it.

2769
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:52,960
Speaker 1: It was it was, I loved playing it. It's a

2770
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,320
Speaker 1: great for those of you don't know. See, rugby is

2771
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 1: a great subculture as well, because it is a club

2772
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:03,600
Speaker 1: sport and when you get into it, you go play

2773
02:14:03,720 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 1: these games, and part of the subculture dictates that after

2774
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:12,480
Speaker 1: the game, you socialize with the team that you just

2775
02:14:12,560 --> 02:14:15,160
Speaker 1: played against. You come over and you have a few pops,

2776
02:14:15,200 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 1: you have to tell a few stories, you sing some songs,

2777
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:19,080
Speaker 1: you get to know each other, and that's really that's

2778
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:23,040
Speaker 1: basically the truly awesome part of the game. And the

2779
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,440
Speaker 1: game itself is brutal and it's fun and it's it's

2780
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,960
Speaker 1: all that a competition would be. But the best part

2781
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 1: about it is nobody takes it home. The sportsmanship the

2782
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 1: sports sportsmanship that comes along with rugby. It's it's almost

2783
02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 1: bizarre to me how you wouldn't want to carry that

2784
02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:41,960
Speaker 1: out into the parking line right right right. I've seen

2785
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,880
Speaker 1: hockey games like in junior and I don't know how

2786
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 1: it was in football, if you guys had brawls after

2787
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,720
Speaker 1: high school games or college and whatnot, but I've seen

2788
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 1: junior games. I remember seeing a player on my team

2789
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 1: fight another player in the lobby of after an OHL game,

2790
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:00,560
Speaker 1: and the dads were fighting in the lobby like it

2791
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 1: was kind of seed like you'd like father and sun

2792
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 1: brawl going on, and in the lobby of the Mississauga

2793
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 1: Arena in a bonding moment, just sitting back, I'm like,

2794
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into this one. It's a bond, that right,

2795
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 1: And that's why, Yeah, that's that's an issue for in

2796
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 1: any sport when you carry it off the ice. But

2797
02:15:18,120 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 1: that's why rugby is a grid. They give you a

2798
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:21,440
Speaker 1: chance to blow off the steam, you know, and get

2799
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:23,240
Speaker 1: to know the guy and plus no one you're gonna

2800
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 1: do that. It takes a little bit of the edge

2801
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 1: off During the game, you know you're gonna have to

2802
02:15:27,640 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 1: see we'll see, you know, I mean it's it's I

2803
02:15:29,160 --> 02:15:32,120
Speaker 1: think apart any sport where you need to tape your

2804
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 1: ears down is is one I'd like to get involved in.

2805
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:39,680
Speaker 1: Just once. That's NFL true or false brought to you

2806
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. And you're right.

2807
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean that I did play rugby. I loved it.

2808
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sports that I have not tried

2809
02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 1: my kids. You know, lacrosse is big now. Um, but

2810
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the last true or false about you know,

2811
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:55,240
Speaker 1: is it easier to play It's not easy to play

2812
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 1: anything at forty except maybe golf. There are a couple

2813
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:01,240
Speaker 1: of sports that I like because their life. Golf is

2814
02:16:01,240 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 1: a lifetime sport. Tennis, I'm told, as a lifetime sport.

2815
02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 1: You really got to pick and choose when you get

2816
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 1: to be, you know, out of the professional sports um

2817
02:16:13,320 --> 02:16:15,200
Speaker 1: era of your life. And not not that you have

2818
02:16:15,240 --> 02:16:17,920
Speaker 1: to play, but that that young range and your young thirties,

2819
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, your mid thirties, Yeah, that's when your body

2820
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 1: starts to chant. Lisa did for me. And well, you're

2821
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:24,440
Speaker 1: not calling your buddies at forty and saying, hey, you

2822
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 1: guys want to play a pick up football football game

2823
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:29,560
Speaker 1: on a Saturday. You want to run play some hoops?

2824
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:32,640
Speaker 1: You know nothing? You know, it's um. You just stopped

2825
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 1: doing that, and I think playing it at a professional level. Man,

2826
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:37,840
Speaker 1: you gotta you've got to be off your rocker. Well,

2827
02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:39,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned tennis, So I got a great movie for

2828
02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:41,120
Speaker 1: you to watch before you had to break here in

2829
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. You gotta go watch Battle of

2830
02:16:43,400 --> 02:16:46,560
Speaker 1: the Sexes. Oh, with Bobby Riggs, the Bobby Riggs and

2831
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 1: Billy Jean King movie. That's new. Steve Krall, Yeah, I

2832
02:16:50,080 --> 02:16:51,959
Speaker 1: just I think. I don't don't know where I just

2833
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 1: caught it, but it was. It was on TV. I saw.

2834
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,720
Speaker 1: I saw the HBO might have had it or something.

2835
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 1: I saw the portrayler of it in the theater. I

2836
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:03,720
Speaker 1: believe is it? Oh, it's amazing. It's amazing. And if

2837
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:07,400
Speaker 1: you're familiar with the story, I mean, it's an amazing story.

2838
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:08,960
Speaker 1: But you know, Bobby Riggs, I see. I did some

2839
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:10,800
Speaker 1: research about Bobby Riggs after I saw the movie. I

2840
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't know how great of a tennis player was. Hall

2841
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:16,280
Speaker 1: of Famer. He won Wimbledon, he won like doubles at Wimbledon,

2842
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:18,560
Speaker 1: singles at Wimbledon and mixed doubles at Wimbledon, so he

2843
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:21,039
Speaker 1: won the triple. He was a good ten but he

2844
02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 1: was a showman too, and he was a yeah yeah

2845
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:26,160
Speaker 1: he remember his one line in the movie was I'm

2846
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna put the show in shoubinism, you know, but I mean, listen.

2847
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:34,080
Speaker 1: That was just an amazing story. It was phenomenal. He

2848
02:17:34,120 --> 02:17:37,279
Speaker 1: had great acting. If you don't remember the story, Bobby

2849
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:39,520
Speaker 1: Riggs back in, who's this tennis player who was kind

2850
02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:42,920
Speaker 1: of this loudmouth, brash guy, challenged Billy Jean King to

2851
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:45,520
Speaker 1: a tennis match in the Astrodome And it was big.

2852
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean he was and she first declined and he

2853
02:17:47,440 --> 02:17:51,039
Speaker 1: beat the champion there it's in the movie. I just

2854
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 1: watched Margaret Margaret court first a right two sets, then

2855
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 1: Billy Jean accepted the challenge. And we think we know

2856
02:17:59,120 --> 02:18:00,680
Speaker 1: the history of that one, how actually, and it would

2857
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 1: turned out to be one of the great great barrier

2858
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:07,040
Speaker 1: breakers at all of sports. It was awesome. Oh yeah,

2859
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:09,040
Speaker 1: I remember that. I was a kid, a young kid.

2860
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:11,800
Speaker 1: It was in seventies, seventy three, I think, right, I

2861
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:13,240
Speaker 1: was like eleven or twelve, So it was a big

2862
02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 1: deal to and back then you know, I got three stations,

2863
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:16,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't follow it, or so you get big and

2864
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:19,320
Speaker 1: they'd be on national news, you know and stuff. If

2865
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:22,880
Speaker 1: you could see a female tennis player, forget athlete tennis

2866
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:25,879
Speaker 1: player right now, I'd want to see Serena Williams play somebody,

2867
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:28,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say that she might be able to

2868
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:31,160
Speaker 1: beat him. Maybe not number one, number two. Those guys

2869
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:33,800
Speaker 1: are different, you know, but I'm talking like, take a

2870
02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 1: mid ranked guy in the eighties or nineties and see

2871
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:39,120
Speaker 1: how it would happen. It would be it would be

2872
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,440
Speaker 1: a sporting event for the ages. Yeah, where we'll get him,

2873
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 1: you can player, not a chance. She might be one

2874
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:48,119
Speaker 1: of the greatest athletes every We're gonna come back with

2875
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 1: what did we learn after this. You're listening to One

2876
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:52,720
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We're gonna close this

2877
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:55,039
Speaker 1: show out after another segment. Thanks for staying with us.

2878
02:18:55,760 --> 02:19:12,040
Speaker 1: This is Well Bill's Radio. What have we learned? Presented

2879
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:14,720
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02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,800
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2882
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: in the first hour, we had Clint Bowyer on professional

2883
02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 1: stock car driver two thousand and eight NASCAR Nationwide Series champion.

2884
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 1: He was in studio with us. It's at one hundred

2885
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 1: and ninety top ten finishes and ten wins. We asked

2886
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:35,800
Speaker 1: him about his pregame pre race routine and how it

2887
02:19:35,840 --> 02:19:40,000
Speaker 1: differs from other athletes, and here's what he said. The

2888
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:44,199
Speaker 1: thing that separates our sport way differently from those sports.

2889
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:50,000
Speaker 1: Right up until literally the green flag drops, we're doing interviews,

2890
02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 1: we're taking care of our sponsors, we're taking pictures, we're

2891
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, they're dragged in so many different ways. Our

2892
02:19:55,680 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 1: sport consists of those those sponsors on the side of

2893
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:00,959
Speaker 1: those race cars. You've got to take care of business

2894
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:03,040
Speaker 1: in a good way and do a good job at

2895
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:05,320
Speaker 1: it so you can stay on that racetrack for many

2896
02:20:05,360 --> 02:20:08,360
Speaker 1: years to come. The physical aspect of it is just heat.

2897
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:10,920
Speaker 1: That's the really only thing. You don't have to bench

2898
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:13,560
Speaker 1: press a Volkswagen to be Oh, we've got paris steering,

2899
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:16,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the wheels not heavy

2900
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:23,520
Speaker 1: by any means, but you have to endure really extreme temperatures. Yeah,

2901
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 1: and that's that was the interesting thing about that interview

2902
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 1: with Clint Boyer. They're yucking it up and doing all

2903
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:32,760
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff right up until the time that green flag,

2904
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:34,959
Speaker 1: and then they climb in, strap themselves into a cage,

2905
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 1: and they go out and go two hundred miles an hour.

2906
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:40,480
Speaker 1: That's a different sport. It is a different sport. But

2907
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:42,480
Speaker 1: he said, the steering wheel is not heavy. But you

2908
02:20:42,480 --> 02:20:45,039
Speaker 1: know what's heavy his wallet. You know, I did a

2909
02:20:45,080 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 1: little uh research, you know how much she's made in

2910
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:53,400
Speaker 1: his career. No, I think this is just career earnings

2911
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:55,080
Speaker 1: in terms of like winnings. Because you say he's been

2912
02:20:55,120 --> 02:21:02,600
Speaker 1: top ten one hundred ninety times, thirty million dollars. It's

2913
02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:05,760
Speaker 1: good for him. Nobody deal. Hey, hey, good drive a

2914
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 1: car that's just just to turn left. That's awesome. I

2915
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:10,960
Speaker 1: loved his line about turning right too. Yeah he turned

2916
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:13,520
Speaker 1: right to hurt. Yeah she should right. You're stopping quick. Yeah,

2917
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,680
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yet, we also had Lorenzo Alexander on and

2918
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 1: we asked him if the training camp right around the corner,

2919
02:21:19,480 --> 02:21:23,480
Speaker 1: Howard how prepared his team, what he liked about his

2920
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:26,119
Speaker 1: team headed into training camp. And here's what Lowe told us,

2921
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:30,440
Speaker 1: I feel good about it, like you said, we laid

2922
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:33,240
Speaker 1: the ground work in oldcas in a mini camp, the foundation,

2923
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:34,920
Speaker 1: and now we have to kind of pick up and

2924
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:37,240
Speaker 1: continue to do that. Man, that sounds that you're doing

2925
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:40,520
Speaker 1: training camp and really come together and obviously throughout this

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Speaker 1: entire process. Then we want to start a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: going to be seeing how sold our young guys. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to kind of ride to the top kind of

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Speaker 1: like what Matt Milano and uh Trudavis did last year,

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Speaker 1: because we're really gonna need, you know, some guys here

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Speaker 1: and there to really step up and play beyond maybe

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Speaker 1: their years in the league. Said Hell clubs obviously get

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Speaker 1: back to the it off and awesomely take a run

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Speaker 1: out of championship. So that's all the things that you

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Speaker 1: want to start looking at and building the pond of

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Speaker 1: tools we get back and hit the ground running. That

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Speaker 1: was Wrenso Alexander, and that is what we learned by

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Speaker 1: Advanced brought to you by Advanced Alarms. Andrew, thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming in and pulling out another three hour shift when

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Speaker 1: you really didn't have to. That's appreciate it. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's what teammates do. There you go there,

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Speaker 1: you go tell the rest of the instigators that we

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Speaker 1: appreciate him letting us borrow you for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the after I don't think they mind. I think I

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Speaker 1: bet you Craig doesn't even know that I'm doing this.

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Speaker 1: It's probably true. He hasn't come out of the woods yet,

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Speaker 1: has he. Good, Literally, he has not come out of

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Speaker 1: the woods. He's in the woods. Well here's the thing too,

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Speaker 1: By tomorrow, tomorrow, there will not be a One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We're taking them Friday. Murph gave us that he's got

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Speaker 1: a wedding coming up. He gave us the weekend off,

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Speaker 1: so everybody's taking Friday off. I don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen, but it's not gonna be from us. So

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Speaker 1: you don't have to come in tomorrow. By the way,

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Speaker 1: non't We're off. Awesome, Awesome, I appreciate that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it for One Bills Live. Andrew Peters, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for being on here with us. Thanks to George Blast, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Coltenac Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Territo and our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris, also Kevin Cargis and also James Robo.

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Speaker 1: All those people help us put this show together. That's

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Speaker 1: where you guys out class us. Why is that? I

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02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:25,680
Speaker 1: thank everybody on your squad at the end of the show.

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02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: It's just an extra way to fill in that last

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty second before we get to start, a very

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Speaker 1: classy way to fill it in. And we don't. We

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Speaker 1: don't do that. We don't acknowledge. I learned that from

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Speaker 1: Murph because we've learned on our show, and you should

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Speaker 1: learn it on your show. You're the reason why the

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Speaker 1: show works, not them. That's you know what I like

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Speaker 1: where your head's at. Figure it out. That's right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us One Bill's Live. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you on Monday. Andrew Peters Steve Tasker saying good

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Speaker 1: night's talk to you later from One Bill's Live. On

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. I w

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Speaker 1: have been of planet I can have owned to a

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Speaker 1: find a bluet and I found