WEBVTT - Jarrett Stepman - Defending Our History

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, welcome to The Buck Sexton Show. Jared Stepman,

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<v Speaker 2>my man, he is with us now. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>author of the War on History, The Conspiracy to Rewrite

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<v Speaker 2>America's Past.

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<v Speaker 1>Jarrett.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see you. I could see the book behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me this, my friend. What did General Schuyler

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<v Speaker 2>do to deserve all of the hate up in Albany,

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<v Speaker 2>New York recently that he was getting? What happened here?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Skyler was tied in with what Hamilton's family

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Right, isn't this how this all went down?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Absolutely, it's amazing. It's to see General Philip Schuyler,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a general during the American Revolution, to have

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<v Speaker 1>his statue taken down knob of Albany, which is, of

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<v Speaker 1>course the capital of New York. Skyler was in fact

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<v Speaker 1>tied to Alexander Hamilton. He was his father in law,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the more prominent men of New York

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<v Speaker 1>during that time. He was instrumental during the Saratoga campaign

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<v Speaker 1>of creating the defenses at that time, which is how

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<v Speaker 1>he became so prominent as a general. And at one

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<v Speaker 1>time he was very well thought of. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent member of New York. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big families. Being tied to Alexander Hamilton was something that

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<v Speaker 1>the family was very much proud of. The state was

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<v Speaker 1>very much proud of him. He's been a fairly uncontroversial

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<v Speaker 1>figure and a pretty prominent one until quite recently when

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<v Speaker 1>it was discovered that well, he owned a few slaves

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<v Speaker 1>during his lifetime, so therefore all of his accomplishments are

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan Voyd and his statue had to be removed from

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the Albany State Capital because people may

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<v Speaker 1>have been offended by the fact that he at one

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<v Speaker 1>point had owned slaves. So his statue was dragged off

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in the almost in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>night by a truck. There was very little fan feather fair.

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<v Speaker 1>There was very little public discussion about whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>people were actually offended in the community. They simply removed

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<v Speaker 1>the statue, got rid of it, done away with again.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, many of the arguments about taking down statues

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<v Speaker 1>and figures of America's past revolved around whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>they were confederates or something along those lines. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Skyler was in no way a Confederate whatsoever. He was

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<v Speaker 1>tied to the American Revolution at one time, considered a

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<v Speaker 1>great patriot that could be celebrated by all Americans. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone, and now he held no record of him

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<v Speaker 1>or his statue in front of the state capitol.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just need to understand what the rules are,

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<v Speaker 2>because if being a figure from the Revolutionary War era

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<v Speaker 2>in America and having any connection to slavery, having owned

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<v Speaker 2>slaves at any number at any point in time, is

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<v Speaker 2>enough to get your statue torn down, we got some

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<v Speaker 2>problems with the founders, don't we, right, Like what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Yeah, what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>To Washington, d C. What happens to Benjamin Franklin. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did release his slaves at some point, but is

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<v Speaker 1>that good enough? It doesn't seem to be good enough

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<v Speaker 1>for those who want to destroy our past. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're basically going to have to cut through all the Founders.

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<v Speaker 1>The capital city is going to have to be renamed,

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to be names across the country

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<v Speaker 1>that are changed and done away with, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a number of people who be

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<v Speaker 1>very happy if that took place. But this really gets

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the criticism of America. It's history, our

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<v Speaker 1>founding itself, this idea that because it was linked to

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and things that again we today obviously reject. We

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<v Speaker 1>are happy that institutions like slavery are gone largely because

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<v Speaker 1>of the philosophy of the founding fathers, because those flaws

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<v Speaker 1>existed in our founding. That means we have to effectively

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<v Speaker 1>erase our history, or some body somewhere will be offended

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<v Speaker 1>and will decide that they may either officially try to

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<v Speaker 1>take down a statue or remove a name, or they

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<v Speaker 1>may do so with a mob, as we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, where we saw people actually go after figures

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<v Speaker 1>in history and statues to try to take them down

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's remarkable, you know. There's also been recently some situation

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert E.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee his horse traveler. There was a marker at the

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<v Speaker 2>grave of Robert E. Lee Civil War Confederate general of

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<v Speaker 2>his horse that was messed with.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened here This is really quite remarkable. Traveler, his

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<v Speaker 1>horse that was sort of famous during the war and

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<v Speaker 1>after it was his favorite horse, was there at the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and Lee University. They buried his horse on the grounds. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided that the plaque to this horse, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the racist horse, had to be removed because it referenced

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it was tied to Robert E. Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the men who was responsible for the existence

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<v Speaker 1>of that college. He was the first president of Washington

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<v Speaker 1>and Lee when it became a prominent university after the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War, he least served in a civilian capacity trying

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuild the country after the terrible Civil War. Traveler

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<v Speaker 1>was a well known horse. People came to put apples

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<v Speaker 1>by the grave and was very much beloved. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen with the iconic class of our moment, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough. And it doesn't matter if it's simply

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<v Speaker 1>a horse. This is some symbol of America's horrible, terrible

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<v Speaker 1>past that needs to be taken down. So they actually

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<v Speaker 1>cracked up the statue. They removed it and tore it

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<v Speaker 1>out from its place that existed there in Washington Lee campus.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's certainly something that should be asked, is how

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<v Speaker 1>long the school of Washington and Lee will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>exist with its name. Certainly Lee is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>checked off the list very soon. How soon is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Washington as well? I would say not

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<v Speaker 1>very I would say quite so.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, So, you wrote a great book, The War

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<v Speaker 2>on History, which people should get a copy of. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have it already. Why are they waging this war

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<v Speaker 2>on American history? Why is the left seeking to truly

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<v Speaker 2>tear down physically literally tear down in the case of

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<v Speaker 2>some of the statues and monuments. What's this all about?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they see the American project, the Constitution, the

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<v Speaker 1>American people as a major impediment to their ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>their plans. I think that that is what a large

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is. America stands for many traditional values.

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<v Speaker 1>It stands for limitation on government and limitation on power.

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<v Speaker 1>It stands for many traditional ideas that they find repugnant,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think their aim is to, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>want to associate America with all terrible things. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>outside the larger scope of history. When you go after

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<v Speaker 1>American history, you say, oh, America has a legacy of

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<v Speaker 1>racism and has a legacy of slavery. Well, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>world has a legacy of racism and slavery. What has

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<v Speaker 1>made America different, of course, is that there are criticisms

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<v Speaker 1>of those things even from the beginning. Even from that founding,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, we have things like the sixteen nineteen Project

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<v Speaker 1>and other I think radical ideas that say that essentially, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire point of the United States wasn't liberty, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen seventy six. It was slavery and tyranny, and therefore

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<v Speaker 1>you should give us power. We're going to tear down

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<v Speaker 1>all those good things that you thought were good, which

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<v Speaker 1>were actually terrible. We're going to tear down those things

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<v Speaker 1>and put something in its place. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that is a large part of what this is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a nerdy discussion about history or statues. It's about power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about power in our society, and it's about removing

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<v Speaker 1>any symbol or notion of traditional ideas that I think

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<v Speaker 1>built this country and have made this country great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about removing those from symbols of status in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that the left, unfortunately has been very

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<v Speaker 1>successful in doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to come back and ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it out to you now, Jared, you can

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<v Speaker 2>But it's what do they want to replace our history with?

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<v Speaker 2>if they want to tear our history down, what does

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<v Speaker 2>the left plan to replace it with?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think there are many things. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at the writings and the ethos

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<v Speaker 1>of for instance, Nicole Hannah Jones, who is the creator

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<v Speaker 1>of the sixteen nineteen project that became very famous that

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<v Speaker 1>was pushed by the New York Times that now exists

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<v Speaker 1>and schools across our country. Her mentor was an outright communist,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just a communist, but a Stalinist. He thought

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States was an evil country, as an

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<v Speaker 1>evil institution that needed to be brought down. He said

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that were in fact outright. I

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<v Speaker 1>think defensive of Joseph Stalin, the Soviet dictator. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that she has a very left wing, I think Marxist

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<v Speaker 1>view of the world. I think that she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>lay this country low. She wants to tear up its

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<v Speaker 1>traditions and replace it with something a morkin to her

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<v Speaker 1>Marxist philosophy. But I think there are also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of liberals, just social liberals, who feel extreme guilt about

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<v Speaker 1>this country's past, to have simply allowed those to criticize

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<v Speaker 1>our country, tear it down, have offered no resistance, no

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<v Speaker 1>defense this country because they feel embarrassed about this country.

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<v Speaker 1>They think it really is just a racist, bigoting country

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<v Speaker 1>that has no reason to be defended. I think what

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to leave us with is a lot of radicals,

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<v Speaker 1>empower people who want to control your life, who want

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<v Speaker 1>to aggrandize themselves, and a lack of resistance and the

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<v Speaker 1>institutions that we're supposed to at one time defend what

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<v Speaker 1>made this country great. Unfortunately, many of those institutions now

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<v Speaker 1>work actively against it. I mean, you talk about Harvard

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<v Speaker 1>or Yale or the Ivy leagues or any of the

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<v Speaker 1>other elite institutions. They're no longer able to put up

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of defense of what built this country, even

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<v Speaker 1>built those institutions themselves. And so I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about gaining power and power over you and

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<v Speaker 1>me and just regular Americans across this country and reducing

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of resistance, reducing i think the constitutional limits

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<v Speaker 1>on power, and empowering them in society. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a big part of this is. They have

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<v Speaker 1>ideas of creating this revolution that's going to equalize things.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they themselves will not actually surrender the power

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<v Speaker 1>that they have. Person This is about controlling you in

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we know about some of these fights that

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<v Speaker 2>have come up on a policy level. Florida as a

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<v Speaker 2>one example of this with Governor Ron De Santis and

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<v Speaker 2>the pushback on a black studies curriculum. Why is it

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<v Speaker 2>that these days we're being told that there's a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with teaching honest history. That's what they'll say. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you look at this and say, well, wait, how is

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<v Speaker 2>critical race theory honest history If you're supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like the American Revolution or you know, other

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<v Speaker 2>periods in history. It seems like there's an infusion of

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<v Speaker 2>ideology that's going through all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's exactly what it is, that honest history line

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<v Speaker 1>which continues to be used over and over again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite remarkable given the fact that they themselves do not

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<v Speaker 1>promote honest history when they're actually pressed to it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the sixteen nineteen project headed a number of flaws that

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<v Speaker 1>they absolutely denied that even got criticism from which was

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<v Speaker 1>funny from even some socialists criticized it because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just bad history in general. So I think there's that

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<v Speaker 1>element to it. I think what it really is it's

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<v Speaker 1>about imposing an ideology on the American people. This really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have anything to do with actual historical baits about

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<v Speaker 1>the various peoples of the past and the arguments they

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<v Speaker 1>had about structure of government. This is about power in

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<v Speaker 1>the modern times. It's about imposing ideology on the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially young people who don't maybe have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge about history anymore about civics, something that's very much

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<v Speaker 1>been lost in this country, where they're willing to accept

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of radical ideas because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know any better. They don't know much about the founding.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know much about the history of the country

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<v Speaker 1>or the world around us. They haven't been taught to

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<v Speaker 1>have that kind of informed patriotism that I think existed

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<v Speaker 1>for previous generations. That's been lost in the newer ones,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's made us quite susceptible to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>radical ideas that have nothing to do with history, have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the truth, And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is really the problem of where we are. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's great to see states like Florida and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>many others finally battle back, especially on this issue of

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<v Speaker 1>curriculum and what we're going to pass along to the

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<v Speaker 1>next generations of Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a country music guy, Jared?

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<v Speaker 1>I do like some country music. I'm not a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of all the all the new pop country music, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do enjoy country music alongside a lot of other music.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to ask because I want to ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's the fight over history, but there's also

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<v Speaker 2>the fight over culture, and these things are very much intertwined.

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<v Speaker 2>And you may have seen that Jason al Dean is

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little bit of a little bit of heat.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back to this in just a second. They're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he has a song that is racist, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is what they're claiming the country music star. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it, but you know, something's in the works

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<v Speaker 2>right now that couga down as the worst government power

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<v Speaker 2>grab in history. According to very smart economists and author

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Gnomi Prins, our financial system could soon spiral into chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>She's speaking about a dangerous new program put forward by

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<v Speaker 2>the Buying Administration. This isn't about banning gas powered cars,

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<v Speaker 2>but a total ban on cash itself. She sees the

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<v Speaker 2>launch of a new technology called fed now. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>attack on our cash, according to doctor Prince, and also

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<v Speaker 2>an attack on your privacy. May well affect your ability

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<v Speaker 2>to spend your money when and how you see fit. Soon,

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<v Speaker 2>something as simple as buying a cup of coffee may

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<v Speaker 2>cause an alarm at the irs. Huge changes are coming

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<v Speaker 2>this summer, starting as early as this month. You should

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<v Speaker 2>get all the facts and do what you can. Go

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<v Speaker 1>Go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Check it out at Disappearing dollar dot com. Paid for

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<v Speaker 2>by Rogue Economics. All right, Jared, why did they why

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<v Speaker 2>are they having such a big problem with try that

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<v Speaker 2>in a small town. The Jason Alden.

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<v Speaker 1>Song, Yeah, it's it's really amazing. And I loved his

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<v Speaker 1>song Flyover States. I think it is a great patriotic song.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's really a freak out going on right now

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<v Speaker 1>with the left because of this song by Jason al Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>which shows the various images of the protests and I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the riots that took place in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And the song has lyrics that say things like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to accept robbing a store, beating up

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<v Speaker 1>a grandmother, talking about the crime that exists in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big cities across this country. Some of those

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<v Speaker 1>cities I've lived in, I've experienced. The song is basically about, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>in our small town, don't try to do anything violent here.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't accept that in small town America. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a great message for the song. The way

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<v Speaker 1>that the left has twisted this is to say that

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually promoting violence in his song, that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a pro lynching song that some have said on the left,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has actually prompted his music to be canceled

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<v Speaker 1>on CMT. There's a lot of leftist celebrities, Cheryl Crow

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<v Speaker 1>and many others saying that this song is deeply inappropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's racist, that it's offensive, and so he's being

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<v Speaker 1>canceled for this. I think, very much like the econoclastic

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<v Speaker 1>movement that's taken down statues in American history, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going after al Din. They're canceling an actual person,

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<v Speaker 1>this case a country music star for saying something that

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<v Speaker 1>bucks the narratives that they want about America, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that the twenty twenty riots were good and well and

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<v Speaker 1>that any opposition to them makes you a racist, defending

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<v Speaker 1>a country that's based on systemic racism.

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<v Speaker 2>It also seems perhaps a little crazy to say this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's I think it's true, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the observation sounds crazy when you say it

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<v Speaker 2>out loud. I think that the left really has just

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<v Speaker 2>developed a hostility for the notion of small town like

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<v Speaker 2>small town America bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's this idea that, oh, those hillbillies and the

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<v Speaker 1>small towns, they're just a bunch of bigots and know

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<v Speaker 1>nothings and they're bad and we should look upon them

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<v Speaker 1>as bad, and anything that praises them or says something

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<v Speaker 1>good about their lifestyle we're against and is in itself

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<v Speaker 1>bigoted and racist. I think that's the mentality you have now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just this deep contempt, I think, an elite contempt

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<v Speaker 1>of large swaws of America. I mean, most Americans do

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<v Speaker 1>come from small towns. It's really amazing. You know. At

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<v Speaker 1>one time in this country there used to be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of recognition like, look, we like the cities, we like

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<v Speaker 1>small towns, we like all parts of our country. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something good and specialle about each one of those. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you're getting from many of the elites

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<v Speaker 1>in this country is this idea that it's funny, it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost ironic, given this song about flyover States, about people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mocking the middle of the country. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as anybody who's been to large parts of the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, I think so there are many wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>places across this country, from sea to shining Sea. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a real contempt I think for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans maybe who haven't gone outside the confines of New

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<v Speaker 1>York City or Los Angeles. For the people who live

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<v Speaker 1>in those places, they see as representative of many of

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional views that they find utterly contemptible and want

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy and eliminate, just like the statues.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to end this podcast on a positive note

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<v Speaker 2>chart though it's important we talk about these important issues.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to tell them, it's your history, guy,

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<v Speaker 2>You've written a defensive history. You don't like when they

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<v Speaker 2>destroy the history. Your three best historical films all time?

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<v Speaker 2>You get three your three favorite history movies right, So

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<v Speaker 2>anything that is a historical piece, what are they.

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<v Speaker 1>Does is that consider? Does that consider like a series? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>Like historical series?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, movies, just movies. Feature films, sir, feature films only.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So one, I love The Battle of Britain, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just one of my favorite war movies. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those great classics, a lot of great actors,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great action. Another one is maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little off kilter. One is Rawn by Kira Kurosawa, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a great take on Shakespeare. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>King Lear. I highly suggest that people go back and

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<v Speaker 1>watch the movie. It's a little less known in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, but as an incredible, incredible action sequences on

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<v Speaker 1>top of being Shakespeare. I think the last one is

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<v Speaker 1>a personal favorite of mine, which is to Tour Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about Pearl Harbor, which is one that I

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<v Speaker 1>think I watched about fifty times when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is a great historical take on an

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<v Speaker 1>attack on Pearl Harbor. Of course The Day That Will

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<v Speaker 1>Live in Infamy, which is definitely heavy on the history,

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<v Speaker 1>but has a lot of great scenes that of course

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<v Speaker 1>use a lot of the planes and the actual things

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<v Speaker 1>that were there in World War Two at Pearl Harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>That I just found to be a great movie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>historically accurate, and a lot of the technology they use

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<v Speaker 1>was accurate too. It didn't rely on the modern cgi

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<v Speaker 1>as much that I don't like as much.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, I don't think I've heard of

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<v Speaker 2>any of those movies before. So I learned something new.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the do the show Gater Day by Fred Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>should get a copy. I'll check out those movies I

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<v Speaker 2>would be. I'd say, like Braveheart, Gladiator, you know a

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<v Speaker 2>little more. I do love Master and Commander. So apparently

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big Russell Crow historical epic fan, Last of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mohicans. But you've you've expanded my horizons, mister Steppens.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of part of how you roll. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>ever should get a copy of the War on History. Jared,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.