WEBVTT - NFL Great Ron Jaworski Joins the Show 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.559 From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:20.400 podcast Unleashed, presented by MGM. Here's your host, Olivia Harlan Decker. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.760 Welcome back to Unleashed from the King of Sports Books 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.199 Bet MGM. I'm Olivia Harland Decker with Joanna's Papas, and 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.960 this week we're talking NFL preseason headlines. There's always so 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.800 much going on this time of year, and then after 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.559 we talk about it, we're gonna break it down with 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.480 the great Ron Dworsky Jaws seventeen season NFL Quarterback vet, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.360 and then we're gonna tell you how you can win 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.800 five hundred dollars in credit for bet MGM. Yeah, I'm 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.040 not lying around five dollars, so you're gonna want to 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.280 catch that. Then we're gonna hang out with our friend 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.360 Peter Andrew with our Lions locks. He's going to tell 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.360 you what to bet on this weekend in the NFL 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.720 preseason games, there's a full slate. We cannot wait. Janice, 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.400 how are you, my friend? I'm doing good, doing good. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.920 Watched a little baseball, watched a little preseason football, watched 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:20.320 my Giants not do much. Okay, yeah, very impressed with 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.800 Zack Wilson and I may become a Jets fan, maybe 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:28.640 Buffalo Bills fan, definitely a Toronto Raptors fan. Who So, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.399 did you watch the Field of Dreams game? I did 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.319 watch the Field of Game. I just wanted to tune 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.800 in to see if Kevin Costner hadn't he worked done? 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.600 He looks good. Hey, he looks more than good. He 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:44.880 looks good. Did you watch Yellowstone? I haven't seen Yellowstone? Know? Okay, well, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.240 I'd highly suggested get the popcorn. But it's um. There's 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.280 something about an old, leathered tan cowboy. I will say 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.560 that is that's that's a good genre. I think Marlboro 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.240 maybe put that in our heads with Marlboro man. Yeah, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.320 I mean Kevin Costner. I love gol Durham. His sports movies, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.640 the baseball ones are legendary. But then he did water 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:12.799 World and his career went in the water. So it's 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.839 good to see that he's back. Oh, he's back. He's back. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.480 I think Yellowstone if anything, Yeah, secured that he's back. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.640 But he throws the first pitch. I mean, how cool 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.720 that he was going to be there, the players walking 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.000 out of the cornstocks, and then the way it ends, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.320 I mean it was Cinema. It was beautiful, really well 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.560 done by Fox. It almost felt like they wrote it. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.880 It almost felt like it was they did last week. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.680 He had a couple of conspiracies. Do you think they 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.640 I saw a couple of meatballs over the plate where 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.920 you're thinking, like, are they just tossing him up there? Now? 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.000 I think it was a great game. I think maybe 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.679 there was a little magic of baseball in there. Who knows. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.480 I mean I got goose bumps when they walked out 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.040 of the corn field. It was funny to watch Stanton 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.040 and Judge walk out because they were above the core. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.240 That was like, it looked like your husband walking out. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.839 I mean, those are two big kids, so they needed 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.600 to grow the corner a little because they couldn't hide. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.760 I saw him before they appeared, because they were just 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.160 they were like a head above the corn when they 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.480 walked out. But it was it was goosebump city. That's 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.880 what they should have called the goose bump city. You know, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.480 I'm a resident Midwest correspondent and it's been a dry summer, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.760 so easy on the corn. Okay, we're so insensitive, you know, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.480 I'm a coastal New York kid. We forget where the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.640 food comes from. Right, don't forget us, don't forget our 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.519 fire over states. Hey, you mentioned Zach Wilson earlier. Let's 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.640 talk about him. So he came from b y U. 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.400 Now he's with the New York Jets, not making the 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.720 headlines that fields or lands are. He had a rough 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.040 start to camp, but scouts did see some promising things 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.520 and some throws over ten yards, so they like his 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.880 arm Um. I think it's all about getting him some 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.920 big targets, and they did that. They got him Corey Davis, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.600 Denzel Sims, a veteran like James and Crowder Elijah Moore 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.040 out of all miss I like him a lot, the 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.160 rookie and two first rounders on his O line, and 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:01.960 that's I think where they went wrong with Sam Donald, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.520 their number three picken. He didn't have much around him, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.480 and he struggled greatly going thirteen and twenty five and 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.080 three seasons. He's now with Carolina. What do you think 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.840 from Zack Wilson and the Jets spending and the Jets? Yeah, 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.000 I know what you say. I think is you know 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.120 it's like you need an OH line, you need peace 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.240 around you, you need targets. I felt that way about Eli, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.919 my beloved Eli Manning the Goat and my Giants in 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.240 those last couple of years before he got replaced. Like 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.800 his on line was he wasn't taking him out to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.480 dinner enough or something happened. So you're right, I think 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.240 with those complimentary pieces, the only thing is he's on 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.679 the Jets, so things seem to go wrong on the Jets. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.080 So that's the only concern I have about Zack Wilson 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:49.960 is his uniform. Okay, Okay, I like that there's so 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.400 much attention on these rookie quarterback that's run through the 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.279 rest of them. Trevor Lawrence with the Jacksonville Jaguars, number 0:04:55.279 --> 0:05:00.400 one overall pick, Heisman winner, amazing head of lettuce, and 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.000 he's listed as the co number one next to Gardner 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.560 Minshew urban Meyer. The new coach is not going to 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.880 name him number one. Do you think that's so crazy 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.040 or do you think he's still in a college mindset 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.200 where a lot of coaches do that they don't want 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.520 to list QB one. Yeah, I mean it's football seems 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.159 to be the only sport that like, uh, when you 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.599 got a star like that number one pick projected to 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.240 be offensive rookie of all that stuff. You just it's 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.000 the only sport where they feel like they need to 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:35.000 give the quarterback time. I say, let him go. He's ready. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.240 He's so good, he was so good in college. He 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.400 played three years at Clemson. He's ready to throw the 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.640 pig skin. Let the kid throw the pigskin, and let's 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.919 see those locks flow around out to the you know 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.960 the bottom of his helmet. Yeah, let him go. I 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.839 mean there are but you know I would. I'm very 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.520 I was very impressed just by at one throw from 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.640 Trey Lance. He threw for eighty yards, and I'm wondering 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:05.080 if Garofolo is gonna be his backup. Okay, this adds 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.039 perfectly to my narrative that you don't know people's names. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:12.800 You know, it's Garoppolo, Garolo, Garofolo, same thing. He's an 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.520 Italian kid. You know they tried to attack with the 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.560 World War two. I'm a Greek, and since that happened, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.440 I don't learn any of their names, including my wife's. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:29.239 Oh man, a brick tie instead of Brittany. Okay, okay, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.120 you know I would believe it. I don't believe it. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.160 I still can't believe you still get my name right 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.200 every week. Um, but you mentioned Trey Lance. I like 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.560 to call him Ginne and Garoffalo. Okay, well we'll stick 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.120 with that for our loyal listeners. I hope they know 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.400 every week that is who we're talking about. Um. But yeah, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.720 Trey Lance. He's a guy who has a lot of 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.839 attention because he fits the bill. He looks good getting 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.200 off the bus, he passes the eye test. He was 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.080 sacked four times in his first NFL game. But his coach, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.440 Kyle Shanahan, he said, you know, I didn't want it 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.920 to go perfectly. You kind of almost like that this 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.920 is what the preseason is for. But yeah, Jay Lance 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.720 has a lot of attention. And then justin Fields in Chicago, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.880 Andy Dalton is still quarterback one according to their coach, Mattnege. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.120 And I want to ask jobs about this, about having 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.080 that rookie quarterback who has so much promise and you 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.480 bring in a vet to kind of hold their hand. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.320 A lot of teams do it, and a lot of 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.400 teams feel like that works. Coach was the quarterback coach 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.400 in Kansas City when Patrick Mahomes was behind Alex Smith. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.120 So they're following a formula here. This is a model 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.680 from But look the fans they want Justin fields. They 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.160 go crazy when he's on the field. He gets standing ovations, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.120 he gets the US and Oz has crazy speed. I 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.520 think he's the Aston Martin, you know what I mean. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.360 He's asked in Martin. Andy Dalton is like your reliable 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:53.920 old Ford. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean Lebron LEBRONI who 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.080 was going crazy tweeting about him. So let them give 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.160 the fans what they wanted. In other news, you know, 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.920 the rosters round the NFL get trimmed down to eighty 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.240 five this week. So this week is major. If you 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.920 watch Hard Knocks, you know what that looks like. Do 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.360 you watch Hard Knocks? I do. I used to watch it. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.720 I haven't watched this season yet. I used to watch 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.320 it all the time. It was great. I remember the 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.960 I think the best one was the Ravens. It was 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.280 one of the first Hard Knocks and it was really 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.200 great because ray Lewis was just like I think Goose 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.280 was on the team, right am I saying his name? Right, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.880 the big dude Goosa what was his name on the 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:32.920 Ravens and Garoffalo I don't remember his name, but that 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.080 was a great camp to watch. I think it was 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:40.079 the year after they wanted Goose Ruffalo. He's a sideline 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.319 reporter now he's about He's a big, big guy. He 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.280 was he was alignment and I just can't remember his 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.839 name like I can Chris STAPs Porzgis. I think it 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.319 is his day. Yeah, there he is Sarah Goose. So 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.080 that was his name, Sarah Goo. Yeah, they called him 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.319 Goosto was his nickname? Right? So did you have you 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.040 watched it? Are you tuning in? Yep? I watched the 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.599 first one and that show always makes me cry. It 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.079 makes me laugh. It is so well done and it 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.120 really does make you feel for these players. In fact, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.800 I told you I was going to lambeau Field for 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.959 the Texans at Packers game and watching like some third 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.319 fourth string receiver drop a pass. I'm like, oh, it 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.719 kills me because you know their whole families watching, and 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.800 you know their whole neighborhood where they grew up watching. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.120 Everyone wants that kid to make it, and it just 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.640 it like breaks my heart. I get really soft in 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.120 the preseason, like regular season it's on game time, but preseason, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.839 I just want everyone to make the team. I do. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.280 I feel bad for him. See that's why, you know. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.439 I hate to say this, but that's why you can't. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:46.439 I don't think women. You guys are nurturing you. I know. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.199 I'm just if you were the coach, there might be 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.760 like a roster of a hundred and fifty players because 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.160 everyone would make it. Yeah, or I make like a 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.600 B squad and we just have like a dinner party 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.880 or something that you can tell a jersey and tell 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.240 your friends that you're on the team. Yeah, that's so. Yeah, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.960 that walked to the coach's office as always. And yeah, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.800 and that show it's filmed, so it's tough. It's tough 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.040 to watch, but it makes for good drama and it's 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.240 a it's yeah, especially the guys on special teams when 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.920 they met, like, you just have such a limited opportunity 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.320 to make something happen. You make one quick mistake. Sometimes 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.640 it comes down to split hair things. Guys don't make it. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.000 It's tough, you know. I mentioned I went to lambeau Field. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.319 Jordan's love is playing quarterback in Green Bay. He suffered 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.360 a shoulder injury in that game. He hasn't practiced since 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.000 the first preseason game. He had one scoring drive, one turnover, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.760 and the Packers lost to Houston. So Green Bay this 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.359 week is bringing in some quarterbacks. They play the Jets Saturday. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.559 New York is the two point favorite at minus one ten. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.959 That's for most of the preseason games. Risk a hundred 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.160 ten dollars to win a hundred dollars. You know, I 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.160 would take the Jets this week in Green Bay because 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.199 at this point Rogers isn't playing. They've said it, and 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.400 David Batiari, the left tackle, is not playing, and now 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.800 Jordan's love they're gonna heaze him out. I feel really 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.160 sad that he's hurt, but that is one bet. As 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.160 I'm looking at this slate of games this weekend, I 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.240 think I'll take the Jets. All right. Well that's that's 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.120 one of the only times you'll hear I'll think I'll 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.040 take the Jets. So in preseason to stay bet during 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.640 the season, I mean, you better have money to lose. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.440 But he looked good. Though he looked good, it looked 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.800 like a wise draft pick by the Packers because he 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.880 did look good. Yeah, it depends who you ask. Here 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.520 in the Wisconsin media, people are really hot and cold 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.280 on him. I didn't think he looked that bad. His 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.719 one scoring drive was great. Um I tell you what. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.199 He had one pass that was like thirty four yards 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.120 or something and the place went crazy. But before it 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.160 was like this pent up energy. You could tell people 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.240 were nervous because they want him to do well. So 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.480 it's a it's a double edged sword, but that's what 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.160 the preseason is all about. We get to see backups, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.160 we get to see third and fourth string guys, and 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.920 we get to see who makes the team again. Ross 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.360 ters are trimmed down to eighty five players this week 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.920 and then it goes to fifty three. So this is 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.880 make it or break a time. But that's not for 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.079 us to discuss. Let's bring in someone who knows what 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.240 they're talking about in Ron Jaworsky. He is coming up next. 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.400 We welcome in Ron Dworski, also known as Jaws, named 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.320 by Doug Collins. I had to look that one up. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.400 I didn't know Doug Collins came up with the name. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.720 That was before the one Super Bowl. He's also referred 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.040 to as Rifle Ron and the Polish Rifle. He played 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.360 seventeen seasons in the NFL. He's a legend in Philadelphia 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.800 sports and NFL history. How are you Jaws Olivia. Great 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.240 to be with you. I'm doing terrific. Just came back 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.120 from the Eagles scrimmage against the Wingland Patriots, So I 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.640 got that football feeling right now. You know, I'm already 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.360 to go. I love it here, the pads crashing, the 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.920 whistles blowing when we're your biggest takeaways from Jalen Hurts especially, 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.800 let's start there. Well, Jalen Hurts clearly is the guy 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.880 that must perform this year for the Eagles. You know, 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.960 he's a second round pick two years ago, played four 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.520 games last year, he was uneven. We saw flashes of 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.559 consistent play, but for the most part, I would say 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.720 it was uneven. So it's really critical that he has 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.640 a good preseason, a good training camp. He had a 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.040 rock solid game last week in the season opener in 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.240 a preseason against the Steelers. But the Eagles also did 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.640 a y thing of bringing in a veteran like Joe Flacco, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.520 you know, former Super Bowl m v P, fourteen year 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.199 NFL veteran to be the backup for Jalen Hurt. So 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.760 and I think that's a good thing in this regard. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.000 I believe strong and have a veteran backup quarterback to 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.719 a young quarterback. There's also a comic relationship with the 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.319 Joe Flacco as well. Joe has been through the through 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.720 the Ringer per se, and even at practice, I noticed, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.920 you know, they had good dialogue throughout the practice. I 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.920 think they're developing a strong relationship. But Jalen has to 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.839 be the guy. I was just gonna say, do you 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.280 think we're gonna be saying that about Garoffalo week two 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.679 or week one? I think Jimmy is the guy. You know. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.240 I haven't seen how their training camp is going from 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.599 a viewership perspective. You know, I'm here at all the 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.720 good reports about both quarterbacks there. Jimmy is a rock 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:19.520 solid player if he's healthy. I mean, obviously took to 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.960 one super Bowl. If he's healthy, you know, he's a 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.280 guy that's gonna be hard to sell planned. So you know, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.240 we'll see how it all plays out. But I think clearly, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.640 you know, Jimmy's a solid football player. We see dynamics 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.760 like that all around the league, bringing in the veteran 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.720 to kind of hold the hand of the rookie year 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.680 quarterback the second year quarterback, and Janis and I were 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.000 earlier talking about just headlines around the NFL, so much 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.320 attention every season goes on the young quarterbacks. What young 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.640 quarterback around the league do you feel like is in 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.040 a position to make a big jump? Before I answered that, 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.560 the one thing I was looking at today was Mac Jones, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.040 the quarterback from Alabama who's there apparent to the Patriots 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.400 quarterback job behind Cam Newton right now, and I Mac 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.520 coming out of Alabama. He had a great quarterback presence 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.840 in the pocket. His movement was outstanding, always in a 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.560 position to deliver the football. But he didn't have a 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.200 gun on his shoulder, didn't have the big, strong armor. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.160 I didn't see enough of those type of throws you 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.680 know at Alabama. So I watched him very closely today. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.240 I will say this, he does not have a gun, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.560 but he does have enough arm strength, and I think 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.760 he could be successful in the NFL. So I watched 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.720 Mac Jones very carefully today. I like what I saw 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.600 as far as quarterbacks. Now that I see that on 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.000 the horizon, the NFL is the quarterbacks league. We all 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.760 know that if you don't have that position, you're gonna 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.200 struggle every week to get victories. A guy that I 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.720 really liked, and I think he's ready for a breakout season. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.360 Is Daniel Jones with the New York Giants. I mean 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.720 he's a big, strong guy that could rip throws. He 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.480 showed some toughest last year playing with a plethora of injuries. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.840 Uh and, and the Giants went out and got him 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.480 some help. I mean, you know, so you you put 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.320 speedy wide receivers say Kwan Barkley, and improved offensive line. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.560 I think Daniel Jones could have a breakout year. Nice, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.080 I'm a giant finn. Here you go. I want to 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.720 keep you happy. He's fast as long as he just 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.960 can stay on his feet when he runs, Now, don't run. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.560 It drives It drives me crazy. When you know, in 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.720 the preseason we watched a lot of quarterbacks run and 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.840 everyone gets all excited. Oh he ran for fifteen yards. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.000 You know, you know, you get in the NFL. Quarterbacks 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.680 they're not supposed to run. They're supposed to orchestrate offense. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.560 Hand the ball off, deliver the ball to the open receiver. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.960 If you start counting your quarterback to make plays with 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.600 his legs, you're going to find yourself in trouble. Yes, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.360 they get the crowd excited, but I'm a firm believer, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.960 maybe because I was a quarterback, that you play the 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.600 position from the pocket first, and you take running opportunities 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.200 when they present themselves. Play quarterback first, That's what you're 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.760 supposed to do. You mentioned surrounding Jones with a bunch 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.800 of talent, but New England did that as well with 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.680 Mac Jones bringing in an NFL record money and free 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.080 agency and obviously the first first round quarterback under Bill Belichick. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.000 Now do you feel like New England is in position 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.600 to make that jump regardless of who's under center. Yeah, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.840 I do. It's last year was such a hot mess, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.359 you know, with the with the pandemic and what coaches 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.600 had to deal with. And I will stick to my 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.000 guns on this as well. I truly believe not one 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.000 coach should have been fired last year. The circumstances coaches 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.399 had to deal with were extraordinary and so difficult to 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.080 deal with. I don't think anyone should have lost their job. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.480 And you mentioned the pages. I believe they had seven 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.960 or eight you know, players declare they're out the due 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.959 to COVID and a lot of starters. So you can 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.159 imagine the troubling year that was for Bill Belichick and 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.040 his coaching staff, and Bill is, you know, arguably the 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.320 greatest of all time. You know, I was fortunate to 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.200 play for Don Shulo for two years and he would 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.440 be in that That mixed a conversation of some of 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.480 the greatest coaches of all time. Belichick owes how to 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.479 win and he hates to lose, and that's where it starts. 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.240 Bill hates to lose. I spent a few moments with 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.359 this morning and you actually a smile on his face, 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.400 So he must be feeling pretty good about his team. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.119 Although it's early in the preseason, and they did have 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.120 a good scrimmage this morning, so I think he felt 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.000 pretty good about it. But the Patriots are a world 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.800 class organization from top to bottom. They know how to win. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.240 Now you can look at the a f C East. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.199 Now Buffalo is the team to beat. The Jets are 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.560 coming on with Zack Wilson, you know, two of down 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.200 in Miami. They're they're they're an up and coming teams. 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.880 So the FC Easter no longer the doormat for Bill Belichick, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.320 so it'll be tougher. But you know, a Bill knows 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.000 how to win. I've seen the metamorphous of his offense 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.240 this year. Now we signed multiple tight ends. You know, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.720 he still got Cam Newton, Mac Jones and and Brian 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.479 Hoyer who's still there by the way. Uh So they 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.840 have three, you know, capable quarterbacks. It'll be Cam's job, 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.480 I think eventually to lose to mac Jones. What do 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:01.680 you think about Trevor Lawrence his debut as a freshman. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.000 I still remember, you know, at Clemson. I'm that that's 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.399 how how worldly he looks as a quarterback. And you 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.000 know I can remember just I can see it. You know, 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.720 I said that guy is a freshman. You know, he 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.560 looked like a polished NFL quarterback as a as an 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.320 eighteen year old. So clearly there'll be some growing pains 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.440 like there are for every young quarterback, especially going to 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.920 a team in Jacksonville that really does have a great 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.359 supporting cast. They will build around him. But from a 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.879 talent perspective, I mean, the sky's the limit for Trevor Lawrence. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.439 He's he's got it all. As we look at your 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.639 career kind of through media, and it's so fun just 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.080 hearing you talk about football because for so many of 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.040 us growing up, that's what we would see. We turn 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.399 on ESPN and and you were as big of NFL 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.720 seasons as anyone on TV. What was that transition like? 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.560 And some of the people that you got to work with, 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.720 You've got to be with your former coach, Dick for Meal, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.520 brad Nessler, Mike Terrico, some big names that are giants 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.040 in the industry, what was that transition like. Yeah, I 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.359 was very fortunate to work with, you know, only outstanding 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.359 coaches throughout my seventeen year career. But then I transitioned 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.960 to my work with ESPN and Monday Night Football and 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.280 you name it, every platform that ESPN has. I was 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.920 on during the season and I loved it. And I'm 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.879 so grateful, uh for those experiences and people that I 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.280 worked with. And I would probably tell you that Mike 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.440 Arrico probably had the biggest influence on me. And I 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.640 come on out of the NFL playing seventeen years and wow, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.239 you know, I didn't know what Cameron look at when 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:26.760 I went in the studio, you know, I mean, you know, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.280 I knew football, but I didn't know the nuances of 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.680 being on television. And Mike Rio is just you know, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.199 kind of went behind the ears out of out of Syracuse, 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.040 and Mike really really taught me the business. And we 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.560 were together for I don't know, eighteen nineteen years doing 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.800 the countdown shows Monday night football together. But he really 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:48.720 taught me the broadcast business. So I'm surely deeply grateful 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.600 to Mike Trico what he taught me. And you know, 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.960 working with the John Gruden and Tony Corners, you talked 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.600 about two different people now and talk about changing your 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.080 game plan. You know, when I worked a couple of 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.080 years with with Tony, uh, it was different. Tony was 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.320 awesome and work with I love to this day, love 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.560 the guy. After two years, I get Jon Gruden and 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.840 John is like coming in like he's coaching a Super 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.240 Bowl team. Just a pleasure to work with. But you 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.320 gotta be a Camille. You've gotta change your colors all 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.679 the time. So I went from Tony Kornheiser to John Gruden. 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.280 Well that's a change we were talking about in the 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.560 first segment. We were talking about the field of dreams 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.200 games and how amazing it was in baseball. Do you 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.600 think football should do something like that, throw some leather 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.240 helmets on, played both sides of the ball. Hell No, 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:36.119 Although I love the baseball game, it was spectacular. I 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.560 I thought it was a great idea that Fox came 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.560 up with the show that game. I thought it was 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.639 it was crazy. But I don't want to see a 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.200 football game with leather helmets. You know. It's hard enough 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.119 that with the technology that the players now play with, 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:53.440 but man leather helmets. Uh, my dad played football in college. 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.520 He told me they used to hit less hard because 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:02.159 of the leather helmets because they didn't want to get 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.880 injured when they hit the guy. That's quite possible. You're 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.440 not gonna stick your you know, you're you're facing an 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:13.439 oncoming running back or wide receiver if you have no protection. Um, 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:15.879 you know, we we had a we had a trainer 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.560 when I came to the Eagles by the name oth 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.399 O Davis, who was one of the iconic athletic trainers 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.800 in the country. And our locker room was kind of 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.800 a museum and he he went back to the leather 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.280 helmets everything in there, and the nose protector was this 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.720 kind of steel thing that came down over the helmet. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.600 Almost looked like these Roman gladiators and that was their 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.320 nose protection. I would say, oh, are you kidding me? 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:40.840 Players actually played with that thing. Oh, Yeah, that protective, 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.639 getting your nose busted up. I said, that wouldn't protect anything. 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:49.760 In today's game. The guys are bigger, stronger, faster, meaner, nastier. 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.560 I wouldn't want to wear a leather helmet, but they 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.880 definitely let the In your era, the quarterbacks really took 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.440 a licking compared to this era. They really kind of 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:00.960 you know, they pampered the quarter backs. Now what do 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.680 you feel about that? Well, Jack Lambert, you say you 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.760 could put a dress on some quarterbacks, you know, and 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.119 and the way they're protecting the quarterback down, maybe you 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:13.520 could you know that, Uh, I'm all for Yeah, I'm 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.040 I'm all for it. You know, protect the quarterback. It's 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.840 a heartbeat of the football team. Come on, guys, you 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.320 gotta protect the quarterback. But you can't take the violent 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.159 part of the game away. And I think Roger Goodell 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.719 has had been on a mission, and I think it's 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.879 a very important mission for players safety. And in the 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.320 beginning when Roger started changing all the rules, you know, 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.000 lead with your helm. You can't leave your helmet, you 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.159 can You're gonna get in certain areas the field of 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.760 the body. I gotta be honest, I was like, oh, 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.640 he's ruining the game. I was like one of these 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.120 grumpy old players, you know, out of ruin in the game. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.720 But as I've seen the game evolved. Now the game 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.040 is definitely better and healthier. So I plaud what the 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:53.160 commissioner has done making the games safer for today's players. 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.240 But I will sell you this. I'm out there practice 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.440 this morning, and I'm thinking back to my training camp days. 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.560 Seventeen years in the End fell with the Rams, ten 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.600 years of the Eagles, two years of the Dolphins, a 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.560 year in Kansas City working with your dad, Olivia. I mean, 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.720 I'm thinking of training camp. I was at a country 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.440 club this morning. These guys are out there an hour 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.680 and minute practice. I mean there's no tackling, there's no hitting, 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.040 you know, I think a dick for real, Chuck Knox, 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.960 Don Schuler, Marty shot iron. If guys were bleeding, it 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.240 wasn't a good practice, you know. I mean, the game 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.760 has changed. These guys now three preseason games. I remember 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.280 playing seven and we got two hundred dollars a game. 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:35.600 Oh boy, playing seven preseason I sound like I'm whining, right, 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.119 But the game certainly has The game certainly has changed. 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.800 If I saw if I started Trevor Lawrence from behind 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.679 an address, I might buy him a drink. The kid 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:52.560 has a nice hair. I love that, and I love 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.480 talking to someone from your generation of the NFL. Even 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.200 watching clips back, I was watching you with Harold Carmichael, 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.200 your former wide receiver, football's tall list wide receiver. And 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.720 he was awarded football's highest honor this month, going in 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.040 the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now you've said if 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.200 you could design a receiver on a computer, it would 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.480 be Harold Carmichael. What do you mean by that? And 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.080 what were your thoughts watching him go in the hall. Well, 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.000 first of all, congratulate Harold Carmichael. I was in Canton 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.440 with Harold and his family, and and and and I 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.760 bawled for about a half hour. You know, that's how 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.960 And I even get emotional thinking about it, because Harold, 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.920 it was not only a great football player, And you know, 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.280 all too often we evaluate players on what they did 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.280 in the field, and and Harold certainly deserved recognition as 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.400 being a Hall of Famer. He should have been given 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.959 that honor a long time ago. From seventy eight two, 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:41.399 with the best receiver in the National Football League for 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.600 over a decade. But Harold is a better person than 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:48.880 he is a football player. He's the consummate professional when 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.960 he was on the field, and he's a dear friend 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.159 off the field. We're still very close. I felt like 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:55.920 I was going in the Hall of Fame. That that's 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.560 how how good I felt for Harold, because he deserved it. 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.960 And it took a long time coming, but he finally 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:05.239 got in. But but Harold and I just such an 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.000 amazing guy. Just he can't say six eight. In fact, 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.520 I was with him this morning he was out of 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.080 the Eagles Patriot scrimmage, and he's just a tad under 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.240 six eight tad under. So he grew as if he 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.800 had one of those big old af rows the day, 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.960 he probably would have been six ft eight. But the 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.199 thing that was uncommon about Harold, which he didn't get 0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.199 credit for, was his speed. Now he's six ft eight, 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.080 his arms touched the ground as he walks, and he's 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.440 he's got catchers amidst for hands. And you know, even 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.400 just a unique player to play with, fiercely competitive. Wood 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.200 Block could run and we used to have this a 0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.000 goal line audible and whenever someone would come inside to 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.840 five yard and press up on Harold that he's six eight, 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.399 you got some you know, I'll comes to piss hand 0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:52.280 quarter cornerback out there. You know, five nine, we had 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.879 this play. I would just grab my face basketball, just 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.320 kind of adjusted my helmet, and that would be Harold, 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.440 meet me at the corner. And that's what we call 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:01.160 it me. I would throw the ball to the corner 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.640 of the end zone, the pieline, and Harold just knew 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:05.720 whenever I grab that face, no matter what the play was, 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:07.600 it was to meet me at the corner. And we 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.879 had great success with that play because he could just 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.480 mean out, muscle out, maneuver, I'll jump, or he was 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.880 just too big to defend the two of you out 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.880 in Philly in those weekend nights after a big win 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.879 or something. Would you ever do the same thing that, Hey, 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.359 I'm ready to leave this place. Let's go to the 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:28.280 next bar, meet me at the corner. Oh yeah, it 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.080 wasn't only a Harold was a lot of my teammates 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.639 wanted to maybe at the corner bar. Yeah. See, I 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.399 love this about the NFL. In one second, we're saying 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.560 if they're not bleeding, it's not practice, And then a 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.960 grown man can cry talking about another grown man. I 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.560 this is what's beautiful about the game, truly, it is 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.639 you're absolutely red to live. Yeah, I mean, I think 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.399 that's the beauty of the game. You know, there's a 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.960 fierceness to it, a competitiveness to it, and yet there's 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:53.960 a soft side to all the players as well. You 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.080 don't always see that on Sunday or Monday night or 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.320 you know, whatever the game may be played, but there's 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.919 there's a side of the players that clearly a lot 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.520 of people don't know and don't understand that. That to me, 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.119 that was always the kind of beauty of NFL films, 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.000 you know, where I spent almost thirty years with you know, 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.720 breaking down tape and working with Steve Sable and Ed 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.679 Sable and Ross kat Over, the wonderful people there. They 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.680 humanized the game, and I think it's one of the 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.919 key successes, integral parts of the success of the NFL 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.920 that ended the NFL through NFL films humanized the game 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.920 and it just once wasn't a bunch of slugs beating 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.600 the hell out of each other. So I mean that 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.400 helped grow the game. Herschel Walker, how does how does 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.280 a soft side? He did ballet, which is as soft 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.640 as you can get. Did you know that? I did 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.200 know that, but I never did ballet in college. I 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.680 took modern and folk dancing is one of my courses 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:50.480 I got. I got an help with footwork. Yeah. Absolutely 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:53.600 can't get out of here without me asking this question 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.000 as a giant fan. You talking about how I getting 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.840 into the Hall of Fame? What about Eli? Is he 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.920 a Hall of Famer? No, he's gonna be close. There's 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.480 there's always, at least for me, a natural reaction yes 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.120 or no, And I'm normally pretty good at it and 0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.000 I'm not gonna say no or yes. I think he 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.720 has kind of right in that bubble area. But we'll 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.960 see as time goes on. I think he's deserving. You look, 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.920 you know, super Bowl championships do mean a lot. They 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.360 do mean a lot, and he's played his best in 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.920 big games. You gotta give him credit for that. There 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.200 are some lulls in this career that I think which 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.920 will hurt him a little bit. But I'm not saying 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.719 he's not going to get in. But I don't think 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.960 he's a he's a he's a guarantee like Peyton was. Okay, 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.760 but if you're in the playoffs. You can pick one 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.640 Manning in the playoffs. Okay, you got a strong offensive line. 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.000 Which Manning are you picking in a time? You know, 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.000 I'm very close. I am very close to Arch and Olivia. 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.040 Just I want you to know that your honest and 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.320 I could not pick one of their sons over the other. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.120 I don't want to make parents mad at me. What 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:03.120 about Art Manning? Yeah, I wouldn't take Art. I wouldn't 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.040 take Art. I love Art. Hey, there's another Manning coming up, 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.520 by the way. You know, Cooper's son is playing down 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.920 in the New Orleans and he's like a sophomore. I 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.840 think this year I'm talking about Art. Yeah, you talk 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.440 about Are you talking about my contemporary? Oh? No, you 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.560 might be right to Olive you. There's a young Arch 0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.400 coming up that is dynamite. He has college football's attention. 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:32.720 I'll tell you that kid right now. Absolutely. Hey, I 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.720 wanted to ask you. You've written a book called The 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.000 Games That Changed the Game, and it highlights seven NFL games. 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:40.800 But this is now eleven years old since that game 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.400 was published. What are some games that you would now 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.520 put in that book that have changed the NFL? I 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.520 do have some games on my radar. By the way, 0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.680 the Seven Games I'm working on the sequel. Dave Plout 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.560 and I who collaborated with me on the first book, 0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.320 and Great co Sol we've had discussions about there have 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.560 been some games, uh that that clearly have changed the game. 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.760 And it was so much fun doing that book. It 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.160 took two years. I mean, I'm I'm a football geek, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.000 what every gonna call it, But to figure out seven 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.440 games that really changed the way the NFL was played 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.200 up until that time, it was very very difficult. I 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:21.440 mean I researched a Patriots Chargers game in a museum 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.720 in Boston and find the act, found the actual game 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.960 film of that game. So because I want to talk 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.840 about a championship game that the Charges and the Patriots played, 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:30.200 and I got it. So it was one of the 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.760 games I used. And by the way, there are the 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.920 game changes but it still remains the same, which is 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.840 kind of bizarre. But I I, you know, I gotta 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.280 do something about Andy Reid and the Chiefs. It was 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.120 one of the as I look at a game, I 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.600 gotta find a specific game mighty be the super Bowl, 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.520 but a game that I think Andy changed how we 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.880 think about the passing game and and that's that would 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:53.880 probably one of I think it's probably about two or 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.600 three games. I would address one with defense. You know, 0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.200 the Ray Lewis defense is and the Ravens defense for 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.200 years was was just phenomenal some of the concepts they had. 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.200 But I have to find a specific game that really 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.240 showed me what their defensive scheme was all about. But yeah, 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.880 I'm working on a couple of couple of tricks. You 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.680 do a lot off the field. How about the way 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.440 the field goal has changed the game a little bit 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.880 now that guys can kick past the fifty yard line. 0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.840 I mean, you never used to see a game and 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.479 you know that used to be out of range. Now, 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.360 I mean, who knows guys are gonna be kicking eighty 0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:28.920 yard or soon. It's funny you say that, I got 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.440 I got Jason Jones, my assistant, sitting with me right here, 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.800 and we're at the practice morning and and they're kicking 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:38.280 field goals and I'm going, this is incredible, the legs 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.520 that these guys have. Now the distance they kicked the football. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.360 And remember I held for Tom Dempsey, who, for a 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.120 long period of time, you know, held the longest held 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.720 the record the longest field of sixty three yards and 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.480 Tom was about two hundred and sixty five pounds only 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.320 on the day we had to weigh in other natives 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.440 about to eighty five and people. I remember Tom was 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.760 born with a club foot and had just like four 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.000 by four two by four on the front of his shoe, 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.080 and he could bomb. I mean, he could bomb the football. 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.400 But I'm watching these guys now, these soccer style kickers, 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.000 are you know, fifty pounds They're knocking these seven yard 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.240 field goals at practice. Though the town is definitely getting better, 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.800 you should well, you know, if Sam didn't get drafted 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.520 by Toronto, Olivia was about to get drafted because if 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.440 you go scroll back on her Twitter, she kicked the bomb, 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:30.520 a game winner right through the uprights. Yeah, very nice, 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:36.200 looked like Trevor Lawrence. Well, Johns. We won't take up 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.000 any more of your time, but we gotta live with 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.400 one question. As you kind of look at an a 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.920 f C favorite and NFC favorite, and you're gonna be 0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.800 covering games for Westwood one this season, who are you 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.680 really interested to see? And do you have a pick 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.640 for both conferences? Yeah? I think Tampa Bay is is 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.960 going to be very difficult to beat that. You know, 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.840 Tom's got all his weapon backs. Every player in the 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.400 offense inve side of that football has already signed up 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.560 for the Bucketeers. So you know, remember they didn't start 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.360 out very well ash year, and they really they really 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.360 peaked at at the end of the season. They were 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.920 they were just dynamic as a season. War On and 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.160 Bruce arians now is it's just a cool dude, you know, 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.000 coaching the football team. I've known Bruce back from his 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.880 days at Temple and he hasn't changed a bit. You know. 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.960 He just a good football coach and relates to people, uh, 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.600 you know, a lot of different ways. And the guys 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.600 love to play for him. They love to play for him. 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.560 So I'm gonna say in the NFC, the Tampa by 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.759 Buccaneer is gonna be hard to beat. And I'm gonna 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.160 pick this one with my heart a little bit because 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.640 I was born and raised just outside of Buffalo, New York. 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.880 It was a Buffalo Bills season ticket holder growing up. 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.680 So I think the Bills are the team to beat 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.000 in the a f C this year. I mean, Josh 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.680 Allen has had just been unbelievable the growth, the maturation. 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.800 Sean mcdermot's a terrific football coach, particularly from the defensive 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.880 side of the football. And I think this might be 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.680 the year of the Buffalo Bills. Janice, how do you 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.360 feel about that? Well, it's a New York team, so 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:02.240 I'll take it. I mean, I know, definitely Bills reside 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.920 and play in New York. Giants gonna go over to 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.320 my state of New Jersey to play their games, so 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.920 the Bills are should be New York's team. You That 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.359 is a very good point. Yes, and they made one 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.840 good point anyway, that's good. Yeah. I mean, you guys 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.520 can't get the football in the end zone. I may 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:23.279 become a Bills field fan myself. So that first preseason game, 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.799 it looked like a middle school soccer game. I mean 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.040 it was like, didn't nobody scored until like the last 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.160 couple of minutes. So they mean nothing, they mean nothing. 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.600 Forget it, get out of here, they mean nothing. Every 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.040 time the big plays it means something to me. So 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.520 all right, no, no, don't don't get don't get all 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.160 bound up about the preseason games. They're you know what 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:50.719 they're called exhibition games. That's what they are. Absolutely well, 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.160 this start was a pleasure. We really appreciate your insight 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.920 rifle Ron the Polish rifle. That's my favorite. Johns, thank 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.759 you so much, you bet, thank you guys. Great to 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.319 be with you. Let's do it again down the road. 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.360 Every week we finish off our show with the Lions 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.040 lock and we bring in Peter Andrew from bed MGM 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.600 to help us know what bets we should be looking 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.000 at this weekend. It's gonna be really fun once we 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.879 get in regular season NFL play. Peter, I can't wait. 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.320 But this weekend we've got a full slate of preseason games. 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.200 Tell me what you're looking at, Tell me what you like. Yeah, 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.600 well I heard you just talking about it before. I 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.520 love the Jets against the Packers. Just frankly, not a 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.439 lot of people playing for Green Bay. They are playing 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:54.040 for absolutely nothing. If anything, playing guys might be a detriment, 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.560 getting them hurt potentially. On the other side, you have 0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.480 the Jets who are playing for a lot. New coach. 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.480 He's trying to build a structure around that team. Zack 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.359 Wilson I think looked pretty good. He got some time 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.359 with some um, you know, first team offense against first 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.520 team defense, I think he looked fairly well for his 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.840 first game. Ever, I think they are restricting him a 0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:14.399 little bit. We know he can run with the ball, 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.719 we know he's a four or five guy. So it's 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.759 gonna be interesting how that unfolds over the first couple 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.759 of preseason games. But I love the Jets this week. 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.200 As we go to other teams, I think there's a 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.840 couple that stand out to me. Baltimore Ravens and and 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.959 John Harball. Eighteen straight wins in the preseason. I don't 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:36.000 get it. I'm sure, I'm sure it'd be nice if 0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.440 that translated over to regular season wins, but it doesn't. 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.520 But their minus minus three and a half against Carolina 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.120 this actually would tie or maybe even beat the record 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.160 for most preseason games one consecutively. So I feel like 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.880 you need to go with them. So um so Ravens 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.960 with the spread three and a half. And then as 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.399 you look across a couple of other games, I think 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.200 you have to look at Trey Lance justin fields. Those 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.919 guys are playing for something. They're going to be playing 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.040 with first team offenses. They're gonna be, you know, playing 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.920 against first team defenses. Real opportunity for them to solidify 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.560 themselves as potential starters. Justin fields, I mean, an amazing 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.320 couple of drives my expectations. He plays close to a 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.160 half for Saturday. I like them to cover and I 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:19.799 like the over thirty eight and a half. I think 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.480 you're gonna start seeing more teams kind of developed with 0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.440 their first team. I love the opportunity he has to 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.640 to really push himself over a guy like Andy Dalton. 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.320 The Aston Martin reference he gave it is spot on. 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.480 He's the shiny toy that takes them somewhere from A 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.560 to B faster. So if they want to accelerate this 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.680 kind of rebuild, he's the guy to do it. We 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.399 were just talking with Jaws about Eagles and Patriots. That's 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.040 Thursday night when this airs. Eagles are one and a 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:50.480 half point. Dog quarterback Jalen Hurts is really impressing. That's 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.520 what Rondorski was saying. In their joint practice with the Pats. 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:56.960 They also have rookie wide receiver Heisman winner Davante Smith's 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.160 brained mc l and training camp. He's on track to 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.120 play Week one and be the lead receiver. So I 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.239 like them in the season, but with this game Thursday night. 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.040 What are you thinking, Eagles one and a half point? Dog? 0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.719 I like the paths. I like the paths to win 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.560 out right. I think you have the combination of of 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.680 Mac Jones trying to prove himself. You have Cam Newton, 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.600 who's I think solidified himself as a Week one starter. 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.040 But between the two of them, over the course of 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.880 a preseason game, you're probably gonna see at least a 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.520 half of football from them. Again, this is the common 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.919 team for me. Is guys that are playing in first teams, 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.120 that are playing most of the game. I think they'll 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.200 traditionally do better. Whereas some of the teams like the 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:34.759 Packers that we just talked about, are going to be 0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.799 playing a lot of second and third string guys. Those 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.000 guys are playing for jobs. You have the guys like 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.600 Mac Jones that really need to prove something. Given Cam 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.120 always getting hurt, good chance that Mac Jones starts this year. Um, 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.200 so I like them to win out right, Nice, I 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.440 know who to bet on, all right, So we got 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.960 both of you behind the Jets. You're calling the Pats 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.279 two teams. I would never within my heart root four. 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.560 But I'm on a street right now, so I'm gonna 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.640 I'm gonna put money on those two teams because I'm onnestdreak. Hey, 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:03.600 you know, I will say to all our listeners, you've 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.840 got to follow Janice on Twitter. It took me a 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:09.200 minute to understand his language and that absolutely nothing he 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.680 says is serious. But then once you listen that way 0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.280 and read that way, he is such a good Twitter follower. 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.440 So are you such a good Twitter follow? Yeah? I 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.479 mean you gotta have a strong stomach for it because 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.960 I go in, but I appreciate it. Can you tell 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.400 us about some prop bets for this weekend? So what 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.600 I've seen first couple of preseason games, there's a couple 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.239 of players love and a coach I love too, So 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.840 this is more for you know, full season. Obviously a 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.200 lot of our props or future bets for for the 0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.839 full season of all seventeen weeks or all the team weeks. 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.840 I should say this year you talked about m VP odds. 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.000 Derrick Henry is a sneaky one plus five thousand. He 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.920 got Julio Jones in the midst. Normally you'd see Derrick 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.480 Henry eight in the box. Everybody defended him. Julio Jones 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.520 probably the best receiver in the league. He's gonna garner 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.239 a lot of attention. Derrick Henry seems like an easy one, 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.880 especially at that price. UM not saying it's a sure thing, 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.920 but given the odds plus five thousand, you know, a 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.560 hundred dollar beat lands a pretty significant amount of money. 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.640 I love him to start from last week, you saw 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.680 a defensive rookie of the year, Patrick Surtan, a second 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.640 dad was a pretty damn good cornerback. He's no different. 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:21.319 He had to pick six in his first ever preseason game. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.680 Love his chances. And then you obviously go to the 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.960 offensive rookie. The year you saw a lot of line movement. 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.439 Trevor Lawrence went from tow to plus three twenty five, 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.719 so he's regressed a little bit, but that's a lot 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.200 to do. You know, Justin Fields again in trade Lance, 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.919 those guys went from plus three fifty to plus seven hundred. 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.160 Trade Lance went down from six hundred to plus seven fifty. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.360 I think this is really the year of the quarterback, 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.840 and one of these guys is gonna take it. You know, 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.399 my money is on Justin Fields. I think there's such 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.080 an opportunity for him to just again go over Andy Dalton. 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.400 He's going to be a superstar on this league and 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.920 people are about to find out sooner or later. Um, 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.000 so you know you're investing a little bit early in 0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.360 some of these prop bets. But I think you have 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.360 potentially you know, big winnings come into the season in 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.319 January February in the sports gambling world. And from your 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.279 perspective in your office, do you feel like fans get 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:12.120 too caught up in preseason and offseason storylines when they 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:16.359 start to make these bets? One thousand percent yes. I mean, 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.640 so Trey Lance has played one game and within one 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.600 game he's played twenty five snaps or thirty snaps. He's 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.040 actually fifteen percent of our handle or our liability for 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.960 offensive Rookie of the year. He's barely played, and I 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.000 think there's a great chance he's a backup to Jimmy G. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.520 If Jimmy g stays healthy, he may not even play 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.799 this season. So people do, you know, over invest their 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.239 time and in the preseason, But that's kind of what 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.319 it's for, is you get excited about some of these 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.879 new guys. Kyle Pitts was another one the Falcons tight 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.440 end and then obviously Trevor Lawrence being the first overall pick. 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.320 We need something to talk about. We're going crazy without NFL, 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.319 without n C Double A, without basketball hockey and all 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.759 that stuff. So we need something to some sort of 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.439 rumors and some sort of some sort of information about 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.000 our attention. Drama. We love it, we love the storylines. Hey, honest, 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.839 did you hear the Jimmy G. I think you're safe 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.520 with that one. Let's let's screwge Garoffalo and stick with 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.719 Jimmy G. Jimmy G. Yeah, Janine Garoffalo, Jimmy G. What 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.680 do you think about his chances to to actually remain 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.880 the starter with how good Trey Lance looked on that 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.120 one eight yard bomb? Well, first off, I think we're 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.560 gonna have to do one of those picture and of 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.640 pictures where we can buy Jimmy G and Tony Sierra Grusa. 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:32.040 So so we make the true Garoffalo. But it really 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.480 comes down to, uh, and I'm biaseduse I'm an I 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.359 understand Jimmy G stays the quarterback and he gets into 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.120 the playoffs if he stays healthy. If he doesn't stay 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.160 healthy and he ends up missing out on the game 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.320 or two, I think that's it. It's almost the Kaepernick 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.640 Alex Smith situation. Alex Smith got hurt. You know, it's 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.400 almost ten years ago now, and Colin Kaepernick became me 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.920 the facto starter and stayed that way and they ended 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.600 up trading Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Jimmy g can 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.799 be that good. He's a proven winning quarterback. I think 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.520 there's no doubt about that. But he just can't stay healthy. 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.080 I've I've kind of joked with my friends and said, 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.120 you know, he can start the season five and oh, 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.120 it gets hurt in Game six and then that's the 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.120 last time we've seen again for the year. So it 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.640 really comes down to that knee, comes down to that ankle, 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.240 and we'll see what happens. Well, it's really fun talking 0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.880 futures with you. Let's continue to do that throughout the 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.279 month of August as the preseason goes on, and for 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:21.960 all of our listeners, make sure you check out our 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.600 Futures Friday. 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