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Speaker 1: Hello Texans. It's the show that gets you inside NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermeyer and John Harris with you. Good evening as

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Speaker 1: we talk Texans and other stuff related to the world

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Speaker 1: of professional and maybe not so professional football. Johnny, here

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Speaker 1: we go. AJ McCarron. The reports started yesterday that he

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Speaker 1: is a Houston Texan now a backup quarterback for this team.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of it? I kind of like

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Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah, I didn't really figure on it coming

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Speaker 1: into the offseason, but the more I think about it,

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Speaker 1: the more I like it. Yeah. I saw when he

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Speaker 1: was released by the Raiders, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: every time you see something like that, you go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could see that absolutely. Look, he's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of skins on the wall, especially from college where he

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Speaker 1: was able to do at Alabama. But I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people forget because it was three years ago

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Speaker 1: now when he was with Cincinnati in that twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: season when Cincinnati was undefeated, you know the one when

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Speaker 1: night later in that year, and he'd almost having just

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Speaker 1: an incredible season and he gets hurt, broke his wrist

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Speaker 1: or dislocate his wrist and so he was done for

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Speaker 1: the year. So AJ had to take over. And I

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Speaker 1: remember watching that Monday night game wanting the Broncos to

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Speaker 1: beat the Bengals and then make mccaron brought him back

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Speaker 1: and ended up winning that game. Look, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback situation. And I think no matter who

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Speaker 1: you talk to you, they've all got different theories about

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterbacks. I think some people will tell you

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Speaker 1: and I I'm of this mindset to a degree, if

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Speaker 1: you lose your starting quarterback in our case, if we

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Speaker 1: lose the Sean, there's gonna be a ceiling on what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do anyways on your season. Right, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a complete total season. Now, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: fall off the four and twelve. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: why looking at a guy like Aj mccarren, you feel like, hey,

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Speaker 1: could Aj just keep the truck grinding. Maybe you don't

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Speaker 1: have the Lamborghini anymore, but maybe you end up having

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Speaker 1: a truck that just kind of grinds on through and

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Speaker 1: maybe you end up winning ugly a little bit like

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Speaker 1: AJ's got a lot to learn in this particular offense,

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Speaker 1: but he schooled at Alabama with Nick Saban and went

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Speaker 1: through Uh you know, I want to say Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 1: at the hand of some pretty good coordinators coaches along

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Speaker 1: the way, and now he's got an opportunity to come here.

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Speaker 1: And I know people say, wa, wait a second, he

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Speaker 1: flamed out Buffalo and then didn't work in Oakland. Look Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: he got hurt, right and didn't really get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: He went to Oakland. Derek Carver's the guy. So I

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Speaker 1: think I think AJ knows what his lot is, and

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Speaker 1: that is to be a backup quarterback. But if he

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Speaker 1: gets opportunity during preseason, and he's gonna get a lot

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Speaker 1: of opportunity during preseason, So when he gets an opportunity

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Speaker 1: during preseason, he's gonna be able to prove to everybody, Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm the right guy for this. If they have to

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Speaker 1: Denver is too long to take, whatever the case might be,

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Speaker 1: then AJ has got to step up and be that guy.

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Speaker 1: So they definitely go. They go younger, and they go

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Speaker 1: to a J. McCarron. They go the guy that doesn't

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Speaker 1: know the offense, and he's gonna have a he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of learning come conditioning time. So for

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Speaker 1: him it's getting conditioned and then learning everything there is

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Speaker 1: to know about this offense. Well, you know me, I

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Speaker 1: always like to look back on franchise history, and when

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Speaker 1: you talk about backup quarterbacks who have played that were

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Speaker 1: part of this franchise, Tony Banks had certainly played, and

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Speaker 1: he was benched for the Ravens in their Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: season the first one. Yeah, when Trent Dilford came in

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Speaker 1: actually putting up pretty good numbers when he was benched.

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Speaker 1: Then they sort of changed their whole identity to a

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Speaker 1: more defensive team in ball control. And you look at

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Speaker 1: to Yates. This is kind of like getting Liner in

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Speaker 1: Lyner was a really accomplished quarterback. Agent mccaren was a

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Speaker 1: good insurance policy for them. What do you want out

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Speaker 1: sense of camaraderie and competition and it makes the room

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Speaker 1: a little lively, or maybe nothing that wasn't lively with Whedon,

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Speaker 1: but stay with me on this. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: to try it out here, not to be the starter,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he can prove something in the preseason, or

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Speaker 1: god forbid, if something happens to Watson, he could prove

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Speaker 1: that he's still a viable starter, or can be a

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Speaker 1: viable starter in this league. Yeah, you usually word accomplished

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Speaker 1: and in college. The one of the greatest college football

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Speaker 1: to the SEC championship game. And in that game, you

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Speaker 1: You had Gosh, you had alec Ogletree, you had Eddie Lacy,

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Speaker 1: just an incredible game. And I'll never forget AJ around midfield.

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Speaker 1: He he went to Marie Cooper and he wasn't looking

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Speaker 1: was amazing because it was a neutral site game and

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Speaker 1: just the EBB and flow that game. And AJ didn't

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Speaker 1: have a really great game up until that fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: when Alabama trailed and he brought him back. He hit

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Speaker 1: And I think coming out of Alabama, I think people

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Speaker 1: I think AJ over the years has had to improve

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Speaker 1: his opportunity is going to come during training camp and

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Speaker 1: significant amount of AJ McCarron. Yeah. Now what they do

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Speaker 1: with that third spot that ends up being pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: Joe Webb is currently an unrestricted free agent right. I

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Speaker 1: would love to have Joe Webb back for a number

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Speaker 1: of different reasons because I think, to me, Joe Webb

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Speaker 1: to be in charge of because I can use him.

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Speaker 1: I can use him in a lot of different ways

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Speaker 1: as we saw this last year. And then if I

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Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, yeah, and so I can live with

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Speaker 1: that situation. I actually thought about one guy, Mark, and

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Speaker 1: I want to I'm gonna get your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 1: I wrote an article a few weeks back before we

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Speaker 1: were going into combine, and I said, here's a player

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Speaker 1: You know, what one team does has success with teams

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Speaker 1: want to copy it. What about this? What about drafting

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Speaker 1: Nick Fitzgerald from Mississippi State in on Day three? And

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Speaker 1: here's why I say that the Saints with Taysom Hill. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is in every quarterback meeting, he lives as

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Speaker 1: exactly that exactly. But I think the Saints used Taysom

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Speaker 1: in that same vein, Nick Fitzgerald is a young guy

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Speaker 1: Saints found a role for Taysom Hill and said, all right,

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Speaker 1: look we can run him on sweeps, he can throw

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Speaker 1: Nick Fitzgerald from Missippi State is never gonna be a

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Speaker 1: he can be in every quarterback meeting, right. He can

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Speaker 1: learn the offense that way. But because he's a really

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Speaker 1: he could find different ways to get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: So he ends up being your third quarterback. He runs,

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Speaker 1: he basically becomes your younger and perhaps more agile, more athletic,

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Speaker 1: more accomplished Joe Webb. Yeah, more usable Joe Webb on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis, not just special team. So I'm preparing

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Speaker 1: right now for a Day three selection of Nick Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: And when that's announced, people in this town will freak

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Speaker 1: out because we drafted a quarterback in this draft. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not where you're drafting with Fitzgerald. But

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Speaker 1: the theory of Fitzgerald and that is what he could

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Speaker 1: a tight end to watch. He gives you kind of

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Speaker 1: that he can learn to play, it's probably one he's

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Speaker 1: not at this point ready to play, and that's quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But he can learn all of that stuff. He can

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Speaker 1: learn all that next to the Seaun and next day

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Speaker 1: J mccaren, I wouldn't be surprised if that Texas did

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Speaker 1: something like that with him later in draft. You know,

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Speaker 1: back to mccaren for a moment. If I'm mccaren, I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if there's not a better place for him, obviously

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Speaker 1: just beating a guy out in preseason. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, it's very economical. It's efficient, all right, Fells.

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Speaker 1: You and I haven't talked about Fells. I know you've

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Speaker 1: been on the air talking about Fells. I've been on

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Speaker 1: the air talking about Fells, but you were telling me

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Speaker 1: that you watched him up close in personal. And it's

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Speaker 1: funny because I was actually I saw will Lyng and

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, you gotta be Obviously they

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Speaker 1: ask his opinion about things, and all the coaches are

433
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Speaker 1: looking at these players and every little play they have

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Speaker 1: participated in. And I know you did too, But you

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Speaker 1: think about a player like Fells. I've prepped to see

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Speaker 1: Fells as a play by play guy. Yeah, but you

437
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Speaker 1: went back and looked at everything that he's done and

438
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Speaker 1: you are impressed by certain things that he's been able

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Speaker 1: to do. This is a player who's gonna make the

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Speaker 1: Texans better. I mean there's just no way. Now. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying it makes them into a super Bowl team,

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Speaker 1: but you look at the moves they've made this offseason

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Speaker 1: and you ask yourself, are they a little bit better? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are they? You know's Deshaun Watson's one percent every day?

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Speaker 1: Are they one percent better every day? After a while,

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Speaker 1: it adds up, and I think he's one of those

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Speaker 1: guys who's gonna help things add up. Well, here's this

448
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Speaker 1: is why, said the DP last night, Mark see you

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Speaker 1: agree with me. It feels like and if you look

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Speaker 1: at it, if you look at the signings, it feels

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Speaker 1: like the signings are all answers to questions that the

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Speaker 1: Texans put up on the board. The coaching staff and

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Speaker 1: everybody got together Brian Gaine and said, Okay, what are

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Speaker 1: the things we have to get better going into twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: And they listen to them all and they're like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we don't cover tight ends very well. We're

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Speaker 1: not really We're not really good in man coverage. Our

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Speaker 1: pass protection has got to be way better. Guys on

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Speaker 1: the inside have got to be able to match in

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Speaker 1: mirror and we can't get caught on rub routes and

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Speaker 1: pick routes and all that kind of stuff. And again,

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Speaker 1: like I said, our pass protection has to get better

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Speaker 1: at every single position that has to pass protect, which

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Speaker 1: includes the tight end. It feels like every signing was okay, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: Deshan Gibson is one of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: It covered tight ends. Boom done. And you did it

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Speaker 1: for half of what you paid Tyrant. What Tyrant is

468
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Speaker 1: gonna get from Kansas City. You're not great in man

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Speaker 1: and man coverage. You struggled with guys that could run.

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Speaker 1: Bradley Roby sometimes they consistent, but that guy can run,

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Speaker 1: and when he's good, boy, he's great. That answers number two.

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Speaker 1: Pass protection. Okay, they looked at tackles, they looked at

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Speaker 1: Roger staffold that couldn't get the deal, dumb and saffile.

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Speaker 1: But they looked at it tight end and Fells and said,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, we don't always to protect with five.

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Speaker 1: We have a pass we have a tight end in

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Speaker 1: there a lot of times. Can that guy pass protect? Heck? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watched the Broncos game because the Browns Broncos game

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Speaker 1: is where I watched Body Calhoun and then I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got the game kind of queued up. Let me

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Speaker 1: watch Fells, and Fells isn't He's in probably forty five

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of time because that David and Joku, So

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Speaker 1: that's that the main guy. But when Fells is on

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Speaker 1: the field, you could tell the Broncos were thinking, run,

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Speaker 1: this is run, this is run, this is run when Fells.

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Speaker 1: So there was a situation late later in the game

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Speaker 1: where they had Fells and Nick Chubb that was a

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Speaker 1: definitive key for the Broncos that it's run. So they

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Speaker 1: put their base defense on the field, but the Browns

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Speaker 1: wanted to spread them out in their base defense, getting

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Speaker 1: a matchup that they liked. The offshoot of that was

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Speaker 1: the flip side of that was Fells was gonna have

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Speaker 1: to be one on one with the guy across with him,

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Speaker 1: who's Von Miller. Wow, Fells went one on one with

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Speaker 1: Von Miller and he went nowhere. And I like the

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Speaker 1: sound of that. Von Miller going nowhere against your tight

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Speaker 1: end sound good exactly. And I remember seeing him with

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and being down on the field. You get an

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Speaker 1: idea for the size of guys, and I just remember thinking, boy,

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Speaker 1: Fells is big. Oh man, that was you know, just

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Speaker 1: watching that was my first glance thought of looking at Fells. Man,

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Speaker 1: he's big, and ironically he's a guy that can block,

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Speaker 1: and he pass for texts pretty well. And he's a

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Speaker 1: basketball player. Yeah, so he's got good feeds. He's actual. Look,

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Speaker 1: he didn't take Von and pancake him, but you know

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Speaker 1: what he did. He played basketball with him. He tried

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Speaker 1: to Von tried to run by him. He shuffled over.

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Speaker 1: Von went back inside. He shuffled back over and then

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Speaker 1: in so doing, Tod Davis tried to come from the outside,

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Speaker 1: Von went back to the outside. Fellas is blocking both

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Speaker 1: of them. Basically, Mayfield's got all times kinds of time

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Speaker 1: throws off. It isn't complete, but he had all kinds

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Speaker 1: of time. And I think about some of the plays

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Speaker 1: the Texans have had over the years with the Seaun

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, Titans played a key rolling

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Speaker 1: that hop spins. The reason that Deshaun is able to

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Speaker 1: make that throw was because you had Ryan Griffin and

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Speaker 1: Alfred Blue making a block on Randy Gregory. Well what

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Speaker 1: if that's just a tight end. Well, that allows the

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Speaker 1: running back to get out in a pass route. Multiple options,

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Speaker 1: absolutely no doubt. Here's the other one. It gives you

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Speaker 1: an option. I gotta play for Bill O'Brien and a

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Speaker 1: goal to go, which you know he's gonna use this.

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Speaker 1: Fellas at least has two or three touchdown catches next year,

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Speaker 1: which is not a bad number at all considering Jordan

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Speaker 1: Thomas had four. And you get my drift here that

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Speaker 1: you have Fells in there and they're gonna be an

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Speaker 1: obvious run sets from time to time, and now you

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Speaker 1: go Fells right over the middle right because oh he's

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Speaker 1: never gonna Oh he did. He just caught a pass

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Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone because they leaked

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Speaker 1: him out. Well, think about this too. If you have

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Speaker 1: big Sean Trowback, you got big trollback. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: three thirty five if he's a pound, so you put

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Speaker 1: him at your right tackle, you line up Fells or

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Speaker 1: big Baby next to him. Yeah, and big babies two seventy,

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Speaker 1: two seventy five, it Fellas is two seventy and then

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Speaker 1: whichever one is not lined up to Big Treill becomes

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Speaker 1: the wing back. Now, they used Aikins in that role

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Speaker 1: last year, and Jordan I thought they had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good job. But all of a sudden, look at that

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Speaker 1: run set with Sean Treuille next to Fells, with Thomas

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Speaker 1: as your wing back. I mean, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: girth coming at you that you can run the football

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Speaker 1: and move people off the ball a little bit. So,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, there's a checklist seemingly of things

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Speaker 1: that Texans thought they didn't do well last year they

548
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Speaker 1: want to improve, and the guys that are bringing in

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Speaker 1: seemingly hit those points dead on. But just because Gibson

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Speaker 1: is great covering tight ends. Doesn't mean he can't help

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Speaker 1: him in the back end the middle of the field too, right,

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Speaker 1: that he's gonna be a good tackler. He does those things,

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Speaker 1: so the ancillary benefits that come with it as well,

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Speaker 1: But those are the main things they hit. But with

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Speaker 1: Fells at two hundred and seventy pounds, you're right, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna catch. He'll catch twelve passes this year. Not too

557
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Speaker 1: much more, not too much like he's gonna kid first

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Speaker 1: down here, they're a Touchdow, give it to me, along

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Speaker 1: with the locking benefits that you highlighted. All right, coming up,

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00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more on this what NFL teams

561
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: fans are more upset than the Texans who might be

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Speaker 1: irrationally upset at this point, And by might I mean

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Speaker 1: definitely some of them are not everybody. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to accuse everybody. Also, safety goes back to Stanford. That's

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Speaker 1: justin Reid. We'll hear what brought him there in the

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Speaker 1: first place, and what it's like to get a college

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Speaker 1: degree as an NFL player. And John Lopez's bracketology, Oh

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Speaker 1: can we talk quarterback bracketology? Is it right? Is it wrong?

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Speaker 1: We will discuss on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio, Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we get to the bracketology with the quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: a thought, there's stuff that we promised we'd get to.

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid, the fifty three is out. It's on Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans dot Com. It's Justin Reid going back to Stanford.

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Speaker 1: You hear from David's shop. We heard his comments last

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Speaker 1: week here on the radio. Now, what about Reid himself?

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Speaker 1: Why Stanford in the first place. Here's a clip. What

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Speaker 1: old brought me out to Stanford was first and foremost

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Speaker 1: my brother getting drafted by San Francisco was a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge impact because San Francisco is right down the street

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Speaker 1: from Stanford, and whenever I was in high school and

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Speaker 1: ericles at LSU, he would teach me about college ball.

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Speaker 1: And then him being in San Francisco, I knew if

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Speaker 1: I came out to Stanford he would be able to

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Speaker 1: teach me about the NFL before I got to eventually

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Speaker 1: get drafted by the Houston Texas next coach, Akeena had

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Speaker 1: transferred from Texas to here the year prior, and Akeena

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Speaker 1: has a long resume of guys. He's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite coaches of all time, coach guys like Earl Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Michael Huff, Kenny McCarroll said, Griffin just a long, long

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Speaker 1: resume of guys, and you can feel it any time

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Speaker 1: that you talk to him, how much he really loved

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Speaker 1: ball and how much that he had to teach. And

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of that. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to learn under him. I wanted him to be my

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Speaker 1: coach and helped raise my level of play. Read I'm

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Speaker 1: going to college as an NFL player Stanford. Going there

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Speaker 1: in the first place was very different from where he

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Speaker 1: grew up. But there's a little bit of a culture shock,

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Speaker 1: you know. It was so much different from Baton Rouge,

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Speaker 1: coming to Silicon Valleys where everything was so techy. You

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Speaker 1: met all types of people from all over the world.

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Speaker 1: One of my best friends from our freshman class is

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Speaker 1: a Tunisian kid named Khalid. You met Nobel Peace Prize winners,

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Speaker 1: you met Olympic athletes, like people from all over the

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Speaker 1: world all come to this one place at the same time,

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Speaker 1: and you get to build so many unbelievable relationships and connections,

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Speaker 1: and that's really the coolest part about coming to school

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Speaker 1: at Stanford is that you get to meet all of

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Speaker 1: these awesome people doing awesome things in their own respective fields.

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Speaker 1: A couple of comments there from Justin Reid part of

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Speaker 1: the fifty three a series we have on Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the social media platform forums. Go to

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Speaker 1: the website the app and check out the whole story

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Speaker 1: as skillfully done by Tyler Sudarth, our videographer. Producers so

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Speaker 1: good man, so so so good. Absolutely, I mean in

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Speaker 1: perfect combination too. You got SuDS going out there doing

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Speaker 1: the work. Obviously the subject Justin Reid is, I tweeted

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Speaker 1: today is a starting aching. And then David Shaw's the

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Speaker 1: absolute best. Yeah, he's He's visited for Bear Bryan Awards

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Speaker 1: a few times and he's told our committees like, look,

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Speaker 1: I love this event, I love coming to Houston, and

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Speaker 1: you got to commit to me in a finalist. And

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Speaker 1: he said, whenever I'm voted as a finalist with the ELT,

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Speaker 1: just write me down in pen I'm coming. He's like,

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Speaker 1: the only way I wouldn't come is if I had

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Speaker 1: some kind of conflict with family or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But he's like, every time we have this event you

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Speaker 1: write me down, I'm coming. We're like, wow, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. He's we love it. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: he's great. So it's a great combination of coach Shaw

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Speaker 1: and Justin. And I love that Justin took a risk

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Speaker 1: in going to Stanford. He went to a school, he

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Speaker 1: went to high school. How about this? This is a

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Speaker 1: high school safety lineage. His brother Eric red fused earlier. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then in between Eric and Justin was landing Collins Justin Reid. Yeah,

637
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: that's that's safety. Yeah, in Baton rouge man, Wow, holy smoke,

638
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: that's strong. Now this is I don't know if this

639
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: is strong, but I love this topic matter. It's NCAA

640
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: tournament week. Everyone's doing a bracket on everything. John Lopez

641
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: and Landry Locker on the Midday Show did a quarterback

642
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: bracket all time Houston Texans quarterbacks. But they screwed it

643
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: up from the get go. Johnny, Okay, here's how they

644
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: have a in one regional. All right, so they have

645
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: how many guys here? Sixteen guys, So they left off

646
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: the list players like Dave Raccone, for instance, and Brandon

647
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Wheedon is not on here. So guys, who haven't played

648
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: much at all. They don't include. This is not just Texans,

649
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: this is all time Houston quarterbacks. So we have oilers here,

650
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: of course. So here's one regional. Warren Moon matching up

651
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: against Brian Hoyer in the first round, Dan Pastorini matching

652
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: up against Sage Rosenfeld's in the first round. That is

653
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: a terrible regional, right there. Pastorini and Moon should not

654
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: be in the same regional. They should have the opportunity

655
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: to meet in the final four, Am I writer? Am

656
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: I right? Instead, they gotta get together at the elite eight.

657
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: That's not right, Okay, I would flip. Okay, well, I

658
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to stud your thunder.

659
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: But there's a quarterback, the one that's seeded third. I

660
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: would flip. First of all, I would flip. I would

661
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: flip him. I would flip the quarterback three. The quarterback

662
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: three overall is Steve McNair. Now, if you go by

663
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: what just what they did in the city at Houston,

664
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: Now McNair's not a three seed. No, he's not. McNair's

665
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: not at three, So you really have to make up

666
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: your mind. Chris Chandler, meanwhile, is a ten seed, and

667
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: you could argue. So shob and Chandler meet in the

668
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: next regional, along with McNair meeting Ryan Fitzpatrick. Right, let

669
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: me just give you the rest of them here other

670
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: first round matchups. Here's another regional, and they don't name

671
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the regionals, which they really needed to the Jim Kelly regional,

672
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: I'll name it for them. He matches up against t J.

673
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: Yates in the first round. I think we know where

674
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: that one's going. But although Kelly in Houston, a Houston gambler, right,

675
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: does the USFL get any I mean, Kelly did great

676
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: the USFL, but does that get any juice compared to

677
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: a playoff win by Yates? We all know Kelly's a

678
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback, but was he here then? Bottom

679
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: part of that regional? George BLANDA oh my gosh, early

680
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: sixties oilers. He won championships here I did against David Carr.

681
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: If you look at it this way, he's the only

682
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: quarterback two win championship. Yeah, that's right. So I gotta

683
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: you know Bland is gonna win that matchup, but Kelly's

684
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna be Bland on the next see. I I'm skewed

685
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: by Kelly's performance in Buffalo, so it's hard for me

686
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: to get away from that. Then the next regional cracks

687
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: me up. I call it the Stabler Regional. It's Ken

688
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Stabler against Kase Keendom in the first round, followed by

689
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: and I just feel bad about this one, Deshaun Watson

690
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: against Don Trull in the next first round matchup. Don Truelle,

691
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: who's a Texas ambassador. Great guy, played at Baylor, played

692
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and the Oilers. We're talking back in

693
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: the sixties here, Afl. He was wonderful. I think he

694
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: played for the Patriots. He might have played at Fenway Park.

695
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: The Patriots played at Fenway Parks. Yeah, I think I

696
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: was lay there. I think that's true. He's at Baylor

697
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: in early sixties. That is awesome. Yeah, that is really awesome.

698
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: If you played football at Fenway Park, that is just

699
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: beyond awesome. All Right, A couple of things. Number one,

700
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: Moon is the number one is dead on the hard

701
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: part from me with Kelly Lake. And have to sort

702
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: of discount if we're talking about just in in Houston. Yeah,

703
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: is that we're talking about Because it feels like they

704
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: took all things inn into consideration. Yeah, they did. They

705
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: had to have, right, I guess unless you just said, look,

706
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: you could say Chris Chandler deserves to be seated higher

707
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: if that's the case, because he's played, he played a

708
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: bunch of years and went to a Super Bowl, right,

709
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: and like in Stabler too. But then again, if they

710
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: took everything into account on Stabler, Stablers a lot higher

711
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: than nine seed. Yeah, that's true. If you take everything

712
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: into it, Lopez, you screwed up the seatings and everything.

713
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: So it's just a matter. It feels like they they

714
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: kind of they blended a few too many things. They

715
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: put the wrong they put the h the wrong and fastest,

716
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: they put the fastest on the wrong salable. It feels

717
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: like because at certain times they like one moon number one. Yeah, great,

718
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: Like that's perfect. I wouldn't put if you based it's

719
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: just on what the quarterbacks did, He's no worse than

720
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: a two seat if you go it based on If

721
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: you go based on what they did in Houston, Pastorini

722
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: would end up being the two. I mean, and you

723
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: could argue, well, he went Pastorini because he did it

724
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and I know he had

725
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: a lot of help, But still. I mean, he was

726
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback of that team that went to two AFC

727
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: Championship games, and I know they won one of those

728
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: divisional games without him, but he got them there. Yeah.

729
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: So is that worth more than what Blanda did in

730
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the AFL in the early sixties. I would think so. Yeah.

731
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you look who you lose too to, Johnny.

732
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: You lose to one of the greatest teams in the history,

733
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Stealers twice in those AFC championship games. Yeah.

734
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: If you base it on the quarterback, just quarterback play,

735
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: just start of career to end of career, then Kelly

736
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: is too. Stabler is not a nine. No, he's certainly

737
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: not a nine. Oh, I see what you're saying. All right,

738
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: So if you just now we're gonna go the whole career,

739
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like, if you go based

740
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: on what they did, Kelly not one. If you're doing that,

741
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, what the four Super Bowls? I know

742
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: Warren Moon put up on a bunch of yards and

743
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Kelly went the four Super Bowls? Is let me ask

744
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: you this, all right, So you're drafting it's hard to

745
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: say though, if you're drafting from this bunch, you could

746
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: have any one of these guys in their prime. It's

747
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: hard to not take Warren Moon. I want to sean

748
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: any of it. That's the beauty of it, this list,

749
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: and I want to see where he takes me. Thank god, Yeah,

750
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: thank god. Jim Kelly, Houston Gamblers running shoot him. Kelly

751
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: was a bad dude, and Kelly came in Western New York. Kelly,

752
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think Kelly might be the

753
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: one seed. I think he would have to be if

754
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: you did it based on that. Now, if you did

755
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: it based on what they did in Houston and then

756
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: and therefore, do you have to discount what Kelly did

757
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: because he did it with the gamblers in USFL versus

758
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Moon did it well in with the oilers. Where Kelly

759
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: gets credit is you know what he did later, so

760
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: I know he was good. He was good, so there

761
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke. And then you know that certain guys

762
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: who played in that league, like Steve Young and Bobby Abart. Well,

763
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Bobby Abart, it's hard to bring him up as a

764
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: great example here, but he was okay with the New

765
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Orleans say, you know, we need to do because we

766
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: know a couple of quarterbacks on this list. Yeah, we

767
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: need to put the bracket in front of them and

768
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: see how how they would do it. Yeah, but you know,

769
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: every time I do that with an athlete, not every time,

770
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: but a lot of times, they're just terrible at it

771
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: because they don't want to pick. They don't want to

772
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: pick against guys right upstairs. We could ask him personal

773
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: and that's all I'm saying. We can get TJ and

774
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: say because t J would be honest, the Sean may

775
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: not know kind of the background on a lot of

776
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: these guys because he's just been here. TJ has been

777
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: here since two thousand and eleven. I think t J

778
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: would be honest, like I'm not I'm not beating Jim Kelly.

779
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: He would play that, he would play this out. I

780
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: think Yates would be That would be fun to put

781
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: in front of him. Keena keenam as an eight. I

782
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: was kind of like, okay, okay, maybe I think Friday

783
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: we got to do another bracket and because then did

784
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: you see the one that they just they just did well?

785
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: They did the free worst free agent signings yesterday, No, no no,

786
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: this one today. Greatest wins in Houston football history. Oh

787
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is good. Uh the one eight they

788
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: did eight eight, not sixteen. The one eight game, the one,

789
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: number one seed Oil's Chargers seventy nine. Yeah, that's the

790
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: number one. That's gotta be number one. The eight seed

791
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: was flat Jacket game seventy eight. Oh, that's pretty good.

792
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Two Monday Night Football, the Earl Game against Miami. That's

793
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: number two. I can make a case that being one,

794
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: number seven, number seven, the seventh seed Christmas Eve kick

795
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: at Cleveland nineteen eighty eight. Oh, like the seventh seed.

796
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: The three seed Yates to Walter two thousand and eleven

797
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. That's the three. That's the three. The sixth seed,

798
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: the first game ever Texas Cowboys two thousand and two,

799
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: the number four seed. JJ Watt picks six versus the Bengals,

800
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: the first playoff game, number five. The Birth of Love

801
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: You Blue Monday Night Football seventy nine. Wait a minute,

802
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the same. Though. I thought

803
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: I thought the Earl Game was the Birth of Love

804
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: You Blue. Maybe not. I thought I thought the other

805
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: one is, Uh, they don't have it here. It sounds

806
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: like the Thanksgiving game. I once talked to McLean in

807
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: detail about that game when the Oilers went to Dallas

808
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: and one on Thanksgiving. Oh yeah, that is huge. To

809
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: beat Dallas in Big d with Baum and Earl and

810
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: Pastorini Thanksgiving, that must have been colossal. That one never

811
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: gets talked about. But what a great day that must

812
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: have been. You're eating your turkey and the Oilers are

813
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: beating the daylight. I don't know what that. There've been

814
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: some good Thanksgiving wins for the Houston franchises. That one twelve,

815
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: There's been some good ones. I think with this top

816
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: eight tells me twenty nineteen and Beyond's got some work

817
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: to do get get some wins on this list. There

818
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: were some good wins this year, but I think I

819
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: not not that caliber of these top eight, but that

820
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: would be that would be fun to play out. But

821
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: or there's Charter seventy nine. I think that one stays

822
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: at number one because nobody. Nobody saw that would coming,

823
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, I think nobody saw it coming. Vernon Perry

824
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: was just amazing that day. As far as yeah, four interceptions.

825
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: As far as this year goes, it's funny because we

826
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: have this giant screen out in the lobby right and

827
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: and it's constantly running our video highlights, and not just

828
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: highlights of games, but stuff that's out in the community

829
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: or wherever else, whatever else we shoot and put on

830
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot Com. But I saw hop spins. I

831
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: saw that as I was walking by one day. I

832
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: was just walking to somebody's office and that was one

833
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: and I thought, DeAndre Hopkins that night created not just

834
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: a highlight, but it's art. It's a piece of art.

835
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: I often talk about the receiver as being artists, and

836
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: that was so artful and just to have that, you know,

837
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: it's so funny because that's what's beautiful about sports. You

838
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen, and all of a sudden,

839
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 1: that happens, and it's one of the greatest thing things

840
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: you've seen. I mean, I, you know, having the view

841
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: that I did, I remember seeing the ball. I see

842
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: de Sean throw the ball and I see DeAndre make

843
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: the catch, and I just think at that point, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm like, he's near the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you get out of bounce. Then of the

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Speaker 1: clock was that issue, but I was just thinking get

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Speaker 1: out of bounds, and then he turns it up, and

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Speaker 1: so I kind of have to move closer towards the

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Speaker 1: field to see it. And I'm just like, he's he's

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Speaker 1: just spinning. He's just spinning. And the last thing I

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Speaker 1: will always remember out of that play, Mark, was you

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Speaker 1: remember he fumbled earlier in the game. He fumbled and

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Speaker 1: he came back and he told he'll be I'll get

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Speaker 1: it back when they when Layton Vanners tackles him, do

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Speaker 1: you remember seeing he's got the ball in both of

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Speaker 1: his hands, like up in the air like this, can't

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Speaker 1: even see the ball. And I remember thinking at the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, tucking the coaching he says, tucking away, tucking away.

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Speaker 1: That ball was as safe in his two hands as

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Speaker 1: he could have been anywhere else. He covered up the

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Speaker 1: hole like it was a ping pong ball. I think

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Speaker 1: years from now we'll think about that game, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: in that round one word answer, what fans are frustrated

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Speaker 1: about free agency? Colts colts colts fans and and you know,

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Speaker 1: like and when when we look at the cults, you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be okay. So it's kind of interesting how

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Speaker 1: you have reactions to what has happened or not happened

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Speaker 1: or whatever. We'll have more thoughts on this tomorrow. John

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Speaker 1: McLean's gonna be on the show Johnny Back on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and we'll continue with the conversation always. Podcasts on Houston

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Speaker 1: the website for all the videos, the fifty three on

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid, and all the other great stuff. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night everyone, and go Texans.