1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: June twenty second, And boy, oh boy, I've seen the 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: movie Hustle after many many of you told me to 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: see it, and it is outstanding. I'm gonna gush about 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: in a second, but first I'll tell you but today's 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: guest he is Jay Crawford. He is one of the 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: guys in Cleveland right now setting the agenda. He's got 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: a new YouTube show. He is a TV sports anchor 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: at NBC in Cleveland. And we dive deep into Deshaun Watson, 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: which seems like it's kind of at the end. It 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: feels like we're getting close to a decision on Deshaun Watson. 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: We talked a little Amari Cooper and just this this situation, 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: a little Baker Mayfield. I think you'll like it, even 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: if you're not a Browns fan. It's starting to get 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: back into the NFL season, so we take a break 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: from the NBA Draft and we dive into the NFL. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: But first I need to talk about Hustle, the Adam 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: Sandler movie. Now, I fully admit I am not the 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: biggest Adam Sandler movie guy of all time. I know 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people love Adam Sandler movies, and yes, 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: he has made plenty of good ones. I am on 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: his IMDb page right now going through, and I'll say like, 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: Sandler has done a bunch of good movies, no doubt 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: about it. I think Wedding Singer is probably one for me. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: I I just wedding Singers. It holds up, you can 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: just it's totally rewatchable. I'll be honest. I never really 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: got water Boy. Did not think that was great. I 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: didn't really I don't think have fully seen Little Nikki. 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Uh Big Daddy not a huge fan. So I know 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, Jason, come on, those are classics. 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: How have you not seen them? Well, you know some 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: of his obviously his SNL stuff is unsurpassed, it's incredible. 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: But when you look at his movies, I thought Billy 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Madison was very good. I know people are gonna say 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Happy gilm or j It's amazing. I gotta watch Happy Gilmore. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: It's been a while. I don't remember how amazing it was. Um, 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the rest of them, like some of 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: the stuff that he's done has been kind of bad. Guys, 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: The Hot Chick, I mean really Anger Management, fifty first Dates, Spanglish, Like, 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: what what? What are these movies? I'm looking his IMDb 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: is Listen. He's obviously made a ton of money, super 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: Mo successful. I'd love to play pick up hoops with 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: the guy. I just haven't loved a ton of his movies. 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. Only seen I 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: know from that movie is the Jessica Bale scene. You know. 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I will say this, Funny People. The first thirty minutes 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: of Funny People amazing, really good. After that it just rough. 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: I will say the grown ups those two movies have 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: been very good. Sandler and a cast of funny dudes. 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: It's just guys making fun of each other. I like 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: that movie a lot, So I haven't loved his catalog. 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: That being said, I absolutely loved Hustle. I I'm ready 54 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: to put it in top five basketball movies ever. Um, 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: I bounced this off a couple of buddies, like white 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: men can't jump or hustle. And I know everybody's instantly 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: gonna say white men can't jump, But if you think 58 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: about it and you give it some thought, like, I 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: think Hustle is right there with it. You think he 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: got game. That's an awesome basketball movie. I think Hustle 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: is right there with it. It's good. I will this 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: is the kind of movie when it comes to cable, 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: and I would assume Netflix movies eventually come to cable, right, 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: this is all new ground, but it's instantly I will 65 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: be watching. I will say the workout scenes are incredible. 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I love that stuff. I'm a hoop had you guys 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: know that? So I love this movie. I thought Anthony 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Edwards was tremendous. I showed my son some of his 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: trash talking, which is definitely out of bounce. I like 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, He's he's a budding star. I just I 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: like the movie. And the weirdest part was I did 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: not know who the star was. And then I started 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: asking people like, so, who is the guy, the big 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: white guy who's incredible and they're like, oh, he's in 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: the NBA. And I was like huh and they're like, yeah, 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: one show Hernan Gomez. I was like, you gotta be 77 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: kidding me, because the guy in the movie looks amazing. 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: And now you know, Hollywood like guys are getting their 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: pocket Picked by Hernan Gomez. What does he have like 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: ten career steals, you know, like he's not a great 81 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: NBA player, but he looks amazing in the movie, like 82 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Smith was good. I just I really liked the movie. Guys, 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I gotta say Hustle on Netflix. I I think the 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: first my first buddy was Vic, who said I gotta 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: see it. And then I ran into a couple of 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: dads who are like, yeah, you gotta see it. I'm 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: not gonna spoil it for you, and I just I 88 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: think it's mandatory viewing. So I've now gushed about Hustle 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: for four minutes, and let's get to our guest, Jay 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Crawford from NBC in Cleveland, w k y C. Jason 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: likes to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: I know what sports dance want, but he does he 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: knows a guy who does. Let's just say I know 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: a guy who knows a guy another guy. Let's welcome 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: into straight fire. A guy you certainly know if you 96 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: are a Cleveland sports fan, if you've ever watched ESPN 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: called Pizza Days. His name is Jay Crawford. He is 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: big time in Cleveland, working at NBC w k y 99 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: C also does the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show on YouTube, 100 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: which looks fun. Jay, how are you man? Good brother? 101 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm excellent. You know there's always when 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: I bring on guys to talk about Deshaun Watson. It's 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: always one of those, Jay, do we have to do? You? 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: Really do? I really need to go there? But I 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: feel like with these developments this week on Watson, we 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: bring you in because you know, you're at ground zero 107 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: right now in Cleveland. Uh, and I want to kind 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: of get the vibe from the city on what the 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: hell is going on? So why don't you getta started? 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Where are people right now? How are Cleveland fans handling this? 111 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, they're mixed like everybody else. You've got the 112 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: fan base that wants nothing to do with the Shawn 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Watson because of all this nonsense, and then you've got 114 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: the other set that basically says, look, we've sucked for 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: fifty years. We're done with it, you know. So if 116 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: this is the guy that gets us over the hump, 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you know they're we're they're willing to do the mental 118 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: gymnastics because we've been through so many quarterbacks here, um, 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: so many bad and mediocre quarterbacks that you know, suddenly 120 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: you've got a guy who's considered a lead by most experts. 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Top ten for sure, many say top five. Um, so 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: there's a big portion of the fan base that's okay 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: with it. They want to be done with it, they 124 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: want to move on, find out what the suspension is 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: going to be, and you know, just start thinking about 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: the future. Yeah. I had talked about watching a couple 127 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I mentioned that, like, if I 128 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: was a Browns fan, I'm not. I'm a Jets fan, 129 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: and my kids were rooting for the Browns, and then yeah, 130 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: of course, definitely the Jets fan. Trust me, I know 131 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the pain. But if like my kids said, oh Dad, 132 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: I need Watson Jersey, We're going to the Browns game, 133 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: would I step in and be like, ah, well, let's 134 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: go Nick Chubb or let's go literally anyone else on 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: the tea, Bobs, Garrett, whoever you want. But let's say, 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where are you on the whole Watson 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: and kids? And I mean, do do you think he's 138 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna be met whenever he eventually plays in Cleveland gonna 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: be met with like a mixed reaction of booze and cheers, 140 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: or is it gonna be like, hey, you know, this 141 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: guy's been through a lot, whereas a country that believes 142 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: in second chances, let's go to Shaun Watson one of 143 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: those deals. I think here it's gonna be mostly cheers 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: because they're excited about him being here. They're excited about 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: what he's gonna bring to the organization. So I do 146 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: think that when he finally steps foot on the field, 147 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a ridiculous standing ovation. They're gonna show 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: him their support. And you're right, you mentioned, you know 149 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: where we are a country of second chances. I think 150 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: even if you read into the allegations and you've decided 151 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: that he did something wrong, nobody has alleged rape, nobody 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: has all edged you know, these over the top things 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: that I think meant would be an aligned for most fans. 154 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would want anything to do with 155 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: that um And look, I mean, we all have to 156 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: come to our own personal decisions on this. The folks 157 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: that I've talked to that covered him, that know him, 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: that played with him in Houston, say he is nothing 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: but a stand up guy, a good community guy, a 160 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: great clubhouse guy, a good person that they don't see 161 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: could possibly be uh guilty of some of these allegations. 162 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: So I think everybody has to do that on their own. 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: My my, my children are old, they're grown. If I 164 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: did have a young boy, I would look at it 165 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: as a teaching moment and say, look, he's been accused 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: of doing some things that I would never want you 167 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: to do. So use that as a teaching moment to 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, set the moral compass and say, look, 169 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: we don't know that he's guilty of this, because in 170 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: this cynical world, it's so easy to tarnish someone's reputation 171 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: through an allegation. Twenty four women though, I mean, do 172 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the math where they're smoke, there's probably some fire. And 173 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: so what I would say to my young son would 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: would be it's okay to root for him on the field, 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: But you have to understand that all of these guys 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: that you see on the field mirror society. Most of 177 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: them are great guys. Some of them drive drunk, some 178 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: of them do drugs, some of them beat women and 179 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: mistreat women. Some of them are you know, accused of 180 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: It's just like any subset of society. If you if 181 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: you take a group of teachers, lawyers, firefighters, police, whatever, 182 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: there are going to be bad seeds in every subset 183 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: of society. That's just the way it is. So you 184 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: let the young people know that you can. It's okay 185 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: to root for this person as a player, but you 186 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't follow any of You shouldn't follow anyone that you 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know as a moral guide. That's the parents jobs, 188 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: you know, we could teach them right from wrong. So Jay, 189 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: I would tell your young guy, you know, look, if 190 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: you want to idolize his game and the player, that's fine, 191 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: but be able to separate the art from the artist. 192 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: It's it's okay to like what he does in his profession, 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: but you don't have to look up to him as 194 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: a human being or emulate his actions. And quite frankly, 195 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I would hope that that parents would be taking charge 196 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: of that even without this situation. Totally agree. I will 197 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: also add that I have no problem drafting human fantasy 198 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: as like a third string quarterback if you do any 199 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: fantasy football. But it's interesting, Jay, like, once once this 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: stuff hit, I was like, this is so strange. Of 201 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: course I don't believe it, And then more and more 202 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, geez, but you look, no incidents 203 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: in high school, and you know, in high school and 204 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: he gets around, maybe somebody screws up badly and it's 205 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: a teenager. Nothing in high school, nothing at Clemson, nothing 206 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: in Houston. Until the it just it feels weird and 207 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: and and it's tough to have like a take on this. 208 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: I know you you're you're used to having takes, but 209 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't expect anybody to really have a firm take 210 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: on this at all. That being said, j the big 211 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: development this week obviously was the league sounds like maybe 212 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: they're headed toward a full year suspension given the New 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: New York Times article that came out last week. But 214 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: on all of a sudden, quickly you you're twenty of 215 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the twenty four civil suits have been settled, and now 216 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: we're quickly rapidly getting to the end. I we would 217 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: assume that the settlements had something to do with last 218 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: week's New York Times piece, right, and the Washington Post 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: that that came out and said, you know, the New 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: York Times had the number at sixties six women in 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: seventeen months. If you do the math on that, that's 222 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: a different Massius every week. That's it's not illegal, but 223 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: come on, it's weird, like, you know, what the hell, 224 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: why why would you possibly need to change Massius is 225 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: once a week. So I think, look, you're right, no 226 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: one knows, and so I have to be careful whenever 227 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: I talk about this on the show, and whenever we 228 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: have other people to come on, I make sure that 229 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: we're very strong with the disclaimer we don't know. Some 230 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: people may think they know, and they may talk like 231 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: he's guilty, you got you don't know. You don't know, 232 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: And if you only watch one side of a trial, 233 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to make up your mind. That's why 234 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: there's two sides. And we've heard from the accusers, from 235 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: some of them in the HBO ps um. We had 236 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: two lawyers on the program today and they both found 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: it curious that twenty of these cases have been settled. 238 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: One of them actually referred to the twenty cases as 239 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: a frivolous settlement, like he doesn't think it was a 240 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: large sum of money. He thinks that these are the 241 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: women together with Tony Buzzby their attorney. They may have 242 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: just done the math on this and said, look, we've 243 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: got holes in our story. We did contact him after 244 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: we alleged something bad happened. We we saw him again 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: after we alleged something bad happened. This there was a 246 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: whole poke in our story this way or that way. 247 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: So maybe Buzzby did the calculation these cases. This was 248 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: nothing more than um a mountain to try to win 249 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. So now as we're moving 250 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: from the court of public opinion to the court of 251 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: the NFL and then the court of the actual civil 252 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: trials that will move forward, perhaps Buzzby's told the women, 253 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: let's take what we can get here. Here's a number 254 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: for each of you. Let's wash our hands of that. 255 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: But he's still holding four aces. I'm guessing that these 256 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: cases have merit. There's something in these cases that would 257 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: give someone pause. Now I've heard two sides to the 258 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: story of there was no criminal indictment. Buzzby alleged on 259 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: a radio interview here in Cleveland that there was no 260 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: criminal indictment because the Harris County prosecutor did not aggressively 261 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: go after it. Prosecutors take cases they know they can win. 262 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: These cases. We only hear about these cases as they 263 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: pertained the celebrities. These cases are fairly common, and they're very, 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: very difficult to win because at the end of the day, 265 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: most of them come down as you know, Jay he said, 266 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: she said. And if there isn't some kind of physical evidence, 267 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: some kind of corroborating witness, you know, did these women 268 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: immediately reach out to someone and tell their story? Is 269 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: it documented? You would tend to think no, because when 270 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Buzby brought the two women out for the Real Sports feature, 271 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: you would think that those were his cannons, those were 272 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: his big guns, because he was trying to push him 273 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: to settle all of these cases and be done with this. 274 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: So he was trying to apply pressure. If you coincide 275 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: it with the calendar, everything was happening as something was 276 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: going on with the Browns. First it was you know, 277 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the involuntary you know O t A S. Then it 278 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: was the mandatory minicamp, and this stories were coming out 279 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: like at every two or three day. It went from 280 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty four, to twenty six to now 281 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: that we're doing the Texans now at sixty six. Now 282 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: the Washington Post says it's gonna be a lengthy suspension. 283 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: So there's been this real public relations campaign waged by 284 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Tony Buzzby to try to ratchet up pressure. So I 285 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: I really think that at the end of the day, 286 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: we all have strong opinions on this, but we have 287 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: to be very careful because we're dealing with people's reputations. 288 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: We don't want to unfairly vilify an innocent man if 289 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: he's innocent, And at the same time, we don't want 290 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: to dismiss any claims from women as frivolous because we 291 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: don't know the whole story. So I've been told that 292 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: there was no indictment because Harris County prosecutor wasn't interested 293 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: in this case from jump, didn't think it was a 294 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: winnable case, moved on from it. I wouldn't read too 295 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: much into that. I really wouldn't. Um. I know that 296 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: the saying is you can indict a ham Sandwich, but look, 297 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, if there was really damning, critically bad evidence 298 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: against the Shawn Watson, I do think that we would 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: have had criminal charges. So I don't think the guy 300 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: is a rapist. I think that he may have some 301 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: sort of weird This is just speculation theory. I think 302 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: maybe he has some sort of fetish. That's that's the 303 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: right word. You know, we're a we're a professional massage 304 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: turns into a mutually uh consented upon sexual relationship. In 305 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: other words, when you pull back to toal and you 306 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: see this body, you're not gonna be able to keep 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: your hands off of me and stuff is gonna go down. 308 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: And I think I think he may have tried to 309 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say pressure, but maybe he tried 310 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: to let women know that, Hey, I'm okay with that 311 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: if this happens, I'm okay with that. And a number 312 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: of them were like, no, this is offensive to me. 313 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of a SEUs. I'm a professional 314 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: massuite and I'm not down for that. And we are 315 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: where we are. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 316 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 317 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 318 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. 319 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: So here's where it gets super interesting. Let's say Washington 320 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Post is correct and there is a linkedy suspension. Let's 321 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: just go nuclear option and they say one full year 322 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: Jai nuclear option could be more, by the way, more 323 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: more than a season, even though he sat out all 324 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: last year. You know when when baseball dropped the hammer 325 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: on Trevor Bauer. I initially said, all along, we've been 326 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: talking about games as a possible suspension, when maybe we 327 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: should have been talking about seasons. There was a there 328 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: was a source, Jason from the league office that told 329 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: the Associated Press today, just because you settle doesn't mean 330 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: you get a free pass. And this source added, he 331 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: is bill looking at a lengthy suspension. So what is lengthy? 332 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: Like we've been talking in games? But when Trevor Bauer 333 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: was disciplined by Major League Baseball a month or a 334 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: month and a half ago, I think everybody was like, 335 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: whoa wait a minute, two years and this guy sat 336 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: out going back to last July, it's gonna end up 337 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: being two and a half years, you know, kind of 338 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: compared the two cases. So yeah, there was some really 339 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: freaky stuff going on with Trevor Bauer. But from what 340 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: I've been told, there were text messages sent back and 341 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: forth between Bauer and the woman where this stuff was discussed, 342 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: that this was gonna go down, and allegedly, and who 343 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: knows if this is true, but allegedly she has said, yes, 344 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: I agreed to be choked, but no, I didn't agree 345 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: to be choked out. I don't know. I don't know 346 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: what that means. So I mean, while while most of 347 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: us have been thinking eight games, four six, eight, maybe 348 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: nuclear option a year, like, I don't know the way 349 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: some of this rhetoric has gone. And the other thing 350 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: that was interesting to me, Ja was last week there 351 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: was the story that leaked from the NFL p A 352 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: that said, if we get hit with a hard suspension, 353 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: we're going nuclear. And then and they really ratcheted up 354 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: the pressure because here's what they said, we are going 355 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: to demand that the players are subjected to the same 356 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: discipline that the owners are. And on that vein, they 357 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: brought out Jerry Richardson of the Panthers. They brought out 358 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder of Washington, who has lost his team yet, 359 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: who has not lost his team yet, And they also 360 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: brought up um who was the other oh, Robert Kraft, 361 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: who was himself caught in a massage parlor on videotape 362 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: prostitution sting. Right, yeah, yeah, So here's where it's gonna 363 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: get really interesting, Jason. And this is why now I 364 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: think that you're gonna have an NFL p a versus 365 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: an NFL war, because if I think what the p A. 366 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: What the what the Players Association wanted to float out 367 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: there is, You're gonna hit him hard. Be prepared to 368 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: air your dirty laundry, because we are going to demand 369 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: to see the investigations into Daniel Snyder. We're going to 370 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: demand to see their investigations into Jerry Richardson, Jerry Jones 371 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: was himself embroiled in a controversy. We're gonna want to 372 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: see what the league uncovered in that investigation. And we're 373 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: also gonna want to see what you found out from 374 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft and the last thing. And that there's another 375 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: sort of you know, elephant in the room that no one, 376 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: no one is talking about. John Bruten filed suit against 377 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: the NFL after he was fired. A judge recently ruled 378 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: that that suit can go forward. He did not throw 379 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: it out. And the reason that is interesting is because 380 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: if this suit is forward, and if the NFL p 381 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: A sues the NFL and they want all of these 382 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: investigations made public, they'll have to give up that information 383 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: in discovery, just as John Gruden, when John Ruden is 384 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: doing the NFL, they're gonna have to make their investigation 385 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: into Washington open. And remember the investigation. John Gruden was 386 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: fired over emails he sent to the then general manager 387 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: of Washington and Gruden was not even an employee of 388 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: the NFL for any of their teams. He was. He 389 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: was the guy that got caught up. He was the 390 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: collateral damage. And so so I think the NFL p 391 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: A is saying, so, wait a minute, let me get 392 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: this right. You fired a coach who wasn't a coach 393 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: at the time for making email and derogatory comments about 394 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: the commissioner and the league and racist and homophobic and 395 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: and all kinds of weird things in his email. You 396 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: fired him. We want to see what you what you 397 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: found about Dan Snyder and the leak doesn't go Yeah, 398 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: but the league doesn't want that to go public. So 399 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna end up writing a big check 400 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to John Gruden. And I think there's probably some behind 401 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: the scenes negotiating going on where the league wants to 402 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: We've been hearing before the fourth of July weekend was 403 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: when the league was going to announce the punishment something something. 404 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: There have been some folks at the Browns that have 405 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: been that have been telling folks that, and you would 406 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: likely think that they're getting something from the league. I mean, 407 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the league and the 408 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: Browns are still one entity, so you would think that 409 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: they've heard something that it's gonna be July one. Now, 410 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these cases get settled. I wouldn't 411 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: be surprised if the four remaining cases are also settled 412 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: by July one. And there's been some behind the scenes 413 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: negotiating between the Browns and and the NFL on if 414 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: all of these cases go away, what are we looking 415 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: at as a punishment? Interesting and perhaps maybe they've even 416 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: negotiated this. We're gonna give a year, so the public 417 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: optics are good. We came down hard, we care about 418 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, which they don't. But that's the public optics. 419 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: And then we'll negotiate it down through the union to 420 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: eight planks and that might be something where everybody walks 421 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: away with this and they can claim victory. The NFL 422 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: can say we came down hard. We take this seriously. 423 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson can play after sitting out a half season. 424 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: The Browns know what their landscape looks like right now, 425 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: they don't know who's going to be their quarterback. That, yeah, 426 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: that was what I was leading it to I mean 427 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: the nuke, Like, if Watson's gone the whole season, I 428 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: know Baker Mayfield is done there and all that. I 429 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: get that. But if for some reason Watson is suspended 430 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: for the whole season and they don't reduce it, I 431 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: mean I don't think that they would try out Jacobi percent. 432 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: But can they mend fences with Baker Mayfield? He knows, 433 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: you see, he was there last year. He knows. Jason. 434 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, um one of the most dumbfounding 435 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: things about this entire First of all, I thought the 436 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: decision to move on from Baker Mayfield was incredibly premature 437 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: and a knee jerk reaction to a guy who tried 438 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: to gut it out and play hurt all year last year. 439 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Brown That's that's the Browns. So I mean, look, people 440 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: have forgotten that there was a thirty year stretch where 441 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: we didn't go to a playoff game. Baker rolls in 442 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: and in the span of nine months a year, Baker 443 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Mayfield goes from the night in shining Armor to the 444 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Antichrist that must be ridden out of town on one ring. 445 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: And it's dumbfounding to me. It's it's really dumbfounding to 446 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: me that this guy came in here, reversed our fortunes, 447 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: beat Pittsburgh in the last game of the regular season 448 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs, then went back to Pittsburgh 449 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: and beat them in the first round of the playoffs. 450 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: They were a bad call and a fourth down in 451 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: seventeen conversion from a backup quarterback to going to the 452 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game in Buffalo, and who knows 453 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: what the hell happens if they're there, and now because 454 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: and and even now. So they finished eight and nine 455 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: last year. They beat Cincinnati forty one to fourteen when 456 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: both teams were at full strength, and that game was 457 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and Baker Mayfield looked like Tom Brady and 458 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow looked like he was completely out of his element. 459 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: So the Bengals are the bar in which all teams 460 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: are measured in the a f C. Right, they went 461 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl Cleveland boat raced them down there 462 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and Baker played one of his best games 463 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: as a pro yet. And then there's there's two or 464 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: three games where and you could say this for any team, 465 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: and I get that, there's two or three games where 466 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: flukey things happen and they lose the football game. You know, 467 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: if if, if those games are flipped. The Browns finished 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: two games behind the Bengals last year in the standings too. 469 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that Green Bay game on Christmas was 470 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: a killer. That was nuts. I been yeah, and they 471 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: still could have won the game. They were with it right, 472 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: So at that point I felt like they were like, 473 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: all right, we gotta be done with Baker. He's holding 474 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: us back. We just got to run the football. We 475 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: just need a placeholder quarterback. I mean, he was really 476 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: bad in that game, and I've I've defended he was 477 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: hurt too, and people want to write that off, and 478 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I've I've talked to quarterbacks who have had that injury 479 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: on their non throwing shoulder and they all say the 480 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: same thing. So it hurts every time you throw the football, 481 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: even if you're shot up. You're playing all season with Payne, 482 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: you're getting hit there. The other team knows that's the 483 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: target and they're going for it. I thought Baker was 484 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: valiant last year. Here's my thing too, all right, he 485 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: was hurt. It was obvious. Anybody that watched every snap 486 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: of the Browns from knows without questions, something's wrong with Baker. 487 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: That does take a rocket science scientists to figure that out. 488 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: Why couldn't have the Browns been the adult in the 489 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: room and said, Baker, you're off the field my weekend. 490 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: It was obvious this wasn't the same guy. Take him 491 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: off the field. They could. They let him play week 492 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: after week after week after week, and then we get 493 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: to this point where, well, we think we can win 494 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: with them. We're gonna move forward with them. Wait a minute, No, 495 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna go after DeShawn Watson. No we're not. He 496 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: told us. No, Baker said, I want to be traded. 497 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: They get desperate, they break the bank and give them 498 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the richest contract in the history of the NFL to 499 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: a guy who may not play. So I mean, I 500 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: think the decision to move on from Baker in the 501 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: first place was hastily made. I think that they can 502 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: win with Baker Mayfield. They were a fourth and seventeen 503 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: away from beating Kansas City and going to the a 504 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: f C Championship Game just two years ago, and just overnight, 505 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the guy forgot how to play football. Come on. Fox 506 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 507 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot 508 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 509 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Is there a scenario, j 510 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: where you think Baker Mayfield takes another stop for this team? 511 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: I definitely save. I've been Jason. I've been saying on 512 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: our show every day for five weeks. Look, he's still 513 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: on the roster. He's he's sitting there. He's an insurance policy. 514 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: So what do you are you gonna tell me that? 515 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: And this is where egos getting a way. Okay, I 516 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: think they're pissed that he said I'm done. I think 517 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: it's more on Baker. You lied to me, You told 518 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: me that you weren't gonna do this. You did it. Now. 519 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: I want to be traded. So but I do think 520 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: that if they were to go to Baker and try 521 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: to mend the fence. Look, we need each other, Okay, 522 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: we we're gonna be without a quarterback for probably half 523 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: the year, maybe the whole year. You don't have a team. 524 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: You want an audition for the other thirty one teams. 525 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: Come prove us wrong, Come show us that we made 526 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: a mistake. All of his teammates that have been asked 527 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: this would welcome him back with open arms. How much 528 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: do you think Jay that Odell Beckham and Jervis Landry 529 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: former LSU teammates. Then they get to Cleveland, it's like, 530 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: oh we got something, and now it's like whoa. Both 531 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: are gone and Baker was the guy. It seemed like 532 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: they lost confidence in the quarterback to think that was 533 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: a big one. Yeah, I think I think Kevin Stefanski 534 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: lost confidence in him as as he's watching and try 535 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: to play through the injury, which again is mystifying to me, 536 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: pull him, get him off the field. It's it's easy 537 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: to do. He had a he had an injury in 538 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: week two of the season that needed surgery, and he 539 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: decided to play through it and wait to do surgery 540 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Well, the Browns could 541 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: have stepped in and said, well, what do you think 542 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Baker is just gonna storm the field and play even 543 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: if the Browns don't want him to, like be the 544 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: adult in the room. Stefanski Andrew Barry step up and 545 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: say this man is hurt. It's obvious he's hurt. We're 546 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna pull him off the field and take our chances. 547 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: And then it's not Baker looking like he tapped out. 548 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Baker is a tough guy. And let me tell you something. 549 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: The week one matchup that you want to circle on 550 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: the calendar is Carolina posting the Browns in week one 551 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: because it's it's my belief that Baker will end up 552 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: in carol Nina and you you're gonna have a must 553 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: watch football game when Carolina welcomes the Browns in week 554 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: one with a backup quarterback. I will tell you that 555 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: game for Carolina. I've been I think that Baker would 556 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: and I'm I think that's what's getting Baker through all 557 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: of this. Let me see them in week one with 558 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: The one thing we know about Baker Mayfield is when 559 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: he feels that he's been unfairly blind, he he puts 560 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder the size of the Big Apple. 561 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: He led Oklahoma to a national championship game and won 562 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: a Highsman trophy after the first school tells him you're 563 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: not gonna start, You're not good enough to start, despite 564 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: the fact you came in and played your ass off, 565 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: played well, We're gonna now relegate you back to the bench. Okay, 566 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I go to Oklahoma. He's three on the 567 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: depth chart. Next thing, you know, he's winning the Heisman 568 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Trophy and playing in the National champel Game. Like, I'm 569 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: not going to count this dude out. I don't think 570 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: I can do that. And I mean, I don't know 571 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: that he was never gonna be an elite quarterback. But 572 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: my argument is I still believe with Chubb and Hunt 573 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: and and a vastly improved defense, I think you can 574 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: win a quarterback or can win a super Bowl with 575 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Baker Mayfield. I just do. I do, 576 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I may be proven wrong. He may 577 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: never start in the league again. He may go to 578 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: Carolina start oh and eight and get sent to the 579 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: bench and never get another contract. I don't know, but 580 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bet against this guy because he's 581 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: made a career of proving the doubters wrong. He's a 582 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: very focused, with determined guy. I'm mostly with you. I 583 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: don't know about the super Bowl. That may be a 584 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: bridge too far from me. But Jay, we could wrap 585 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: up with this Amari Cooper. Um, you know he's gonna 586 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: be the guy. He was kind of vanquished from Dallas, 587 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: and I have some questions outdoors cold weather he and 588 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: now he's going there and he thought he was going 589 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson and now Jacoby precept for a full 590 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: year surprise. How's the MARII Cooper taking things in in Cleveland? 591 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: So far, he's been a good soldier. Um, I think he's. 592 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: I think he's because he's happy to be out of Dallas. 593 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: He's in a good spot. He's you know, he's Guys 594 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: will tell you that when they wear out of welcome 595 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: or they just they think it's time to leave a city. 596 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: It's almost like a career rebirth when they when they 597 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: move and go to a different place. You know, I'll 598 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: assure you that, you know, Jarvis Landry and New Orleans 599 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: will come out of the box hot. He's gonna have 600 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: a great start to the season. We saw when O. 601 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: B j. First came to Cleveland, he had some big days. 602 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: We saw what he went to the Rams, he had 603 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: some big days. I think that Amari is going to 604 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: be charged and ready to go. But to your point, 605 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: he's here in part, I think because he feels he 606 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: can do damage with the Shawn Watson as his quarterback. 607 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: And now you know he's gonna look around and he's 608 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: gonna see Jacoby brissettro in the football. And I don't 609 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: want to piss all over Jacoby Brissette. He might be great. 610 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: He's had some moments in the NFL. He's not. You know, look, 611 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: he's a backup for a reason. But he has had 612 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: some moments in the NFL where you're okay, if you 613 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: can duplicate that and and carry that out for a season. 614 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, there was a year in Indie where I think, 615 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, he was at five hundred, played most of 616 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: the season and was at or around five hundred. So 617 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I think he's a serviceable guy. But I don't understand 618 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: how the Browns are gonna sell to the fans. We've 619 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: got a better chance with Jegobie Brissette over Baker May. 620 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: I just I just think it's a bad sell. And 621 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: and you don't when things go sideways in this town, 622 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: they go sideways really quickly. And if they with jacobeus 623 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: their schedule is one of the easiest four games starts 624 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: to a season that I can ever remember in Brown's history. 625 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: It is because the Jets are up there. I think 626 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: the Planthers they have the Jets, they have the Falcons, 627 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: and I think they have the Steelers at all. It's 628 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Funny you say that because when I saw Jets Browns, 629 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, sweet, we don't have to fail de Sean Rotson, 630 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: we got it. That's a win for Jet and share. 631 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: You're now calling it easy because the Jet. I mean, 632 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: it is what it is. But what I'm saying is 633 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: it's possible that a backup quarterback can guide the Browns 634 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: to a three and one start. But then it gets 635 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: real quick. It gets real hard, real quick. So if 636 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: if it's an eight game suspension and he comes back 637 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: on the field and they're three and five and he 638 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: doesn't play, remember the guy hasn't played in a long time. 639 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: And it's one thing to go through training camp, but 640 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: when real bullets start flying, the clock speeds, and you know, 641 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to come out of the maybe 642 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: help prove me wrong. I don't expect him to come 643 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: out and throw for three fifty and three touchdowns in 644 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: his first game back. I just I don't. I think 645 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a process of time where he sort 646 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: of has to knock the rust off, and who knows 647 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: how long that can be. But I mean, it's it's 648 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: just it would be the most Browns thing ever. If 649 00:34:53,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: you hit with a two year suspension. It would you 650 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: horrible but for him for the Browns, yeah, that would 651 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: do you know? And there is talk j that the 652 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: league universally the owners are ticked off at at the 653 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: Browns for driving up the quarterback price with the fully 654 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract. I mean, I could go down about that. 655 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: That could just be like irrelevant. But if the owners 656 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: are looking to stick it to him, you know, you know, 657 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I think so. I think what the commissioner did something 658 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: that was very smart with the last contract. He sort 659 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: of took the gavel out of his own hand. I 660 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: think in part because he goofed up the Ray Rice thing. 661 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: First it was too lenient. Then I think many people 662 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: will tell you the death penalty for Rice was too stiff. 663 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: There's been some other suspensions that the league has looked at, 664 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: and the and the players and the union of book 665 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: that and like this is just ridiculously unfair. This is 666 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: overly harsh. So I think he wisely came up with 667 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: the idea that let's come up with a retired judge 668 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: that the union agrees upon and the owners in the 669 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: league office agrees upon, and that now is Sue Robinson. 670 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: So he sort of put the spotlight off of him 671 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: and onto Sue. And now she's the one that's been 672 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: leading this investigation and she's going to recommend the punishment. 673 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,479 Speaker 1: But the rumor is there was a report that Sue 674 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: Robinson actually recommended to the owners that Dan Snyder sell 675 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: Washington really and they did not take that recommendation. So 676 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: that's where that's where the NFL p A now is 677 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: gonna look at anything that is that they deem overly harsh, 678 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: which I think would be anything over four games. If 679 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: it's four games, I think they take it, they move on, 680 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and everybody goes their own way. But anything more than 681 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: four games, I think you're gonna see if it's less 682 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: than if it's four or less, that is the NFL 683 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: caving to pressure from the NFL p A that we 684 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: want to see your other investigations. If if memory search 685 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: JA there was a female investigator on the Emmett Smith 686 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: remember when Emmett not Emmett, I'm sorry, Zekelly, And she recommended, 687 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: like listen, he shouldn't be suspended. This stuff is very circumstituent, 688 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: and they suspended him anyway, you're right, and and and 689 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: so you know this investigator stuff. It could just be 690 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: a dog and pony show. Right, Hey, we're gonna have 691 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: a we're gonna have a woman investigator. We're gonna really 692 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: come after them hard. We're gonna and then you know, 693 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: it's it's it just makes no sense at all. But 694 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: Jay Crawford NBC in Cleveland, w k y C. Jake 695 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: had an incredible career. Uh, keep it going and love 696 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: the YouTube stuff. Man, thank you for taking the time. Jason. 697 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: Thanks man. Always good to see you all right, Jay