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Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off.

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Speaker 1: Now we are on Pope Name Watch. We know there

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Speaker 1: is a pope, a new one has been chosen. The

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Speaker 1: white smoke has come out. We don't know which one.

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Speaker 1: As soon as we know, we will let you know.

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Speaker 1: And Raymond Arroyo of Fox News we talked to yesterday

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Speaker 1: who is an expert in all the papal candidates and

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Speaker 1: is in Vatican City right now. He is going to

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Speaker 1: put down his plate of spaghetti out of meat to

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Speaker 1: balls and call into us and tell us exactly what

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Speaker 1: is going on over there. So it's well, not just

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Speaker 1: the Catholics listening, but to everybody who's curious about the

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Speaker 1: new pope.

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Speaker 2: We are on it. We are watching, and as soon.

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Speaker 1: As word breaks about who that white smoke smoke represents,

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Speaker 1: you will have more from us on that, to be sure, yes,

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Speaker 1: pointing at me. Surging in the gambling markets, Louise Antonio

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Speaker 1: Tagel is now going head to head with Pietro Perilin.

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Speaker 1: For those of you out there who are curious, they

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Speaker 1: are both still Pietro Perilin big favorite our boy Pizza

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Speaker 1: Bala is making a little bit of a run now

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Speaker 1: in the third hole batting not quite clean up, but

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Speaker 1: everybody else there's only three people that are really getting

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Speaker 1: any play at all at this point in time, and

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Speaker 1: I am joining. Some of us are sitting and wondering

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Speaker 1: who will be Vickers Christ on Earth. Others are sitting

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Speaker 1: here looking at whether this is going to play out

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Speaker 1: like the NFL draft, And there'll be some people very disappointed,

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Speaker 1: you know, not that one cardinal is not going to

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Speaker 1: get signed to the deal.

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Speaker 2: He thought.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very sad about it. But different

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Speaker 1: approaches to this papal thing. So yes, for sure.

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Speaker 3: So we will supposedly, on average for people out there,

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Speaker 3: it takes about forty minutes after the smoke is officially

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Speaker 3: released for news of who the new pope is to.

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Speaker 2: To wind in. So we will see how all that

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Speaker 2: breaks down.

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Speaker 1: The smoke will clear in about forty minutes, so we

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Speaker 1: will let you know. Well, it was forty minutes a

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Speaker 1: while ago. I don't know what the timing is now,

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Speaker 1: we'll let you know as soon as we know.

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Speaker 2: We're on it. We're on and I promise it will

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Speaker 2: be something to address here as soon as we can.

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Speaker 1: All right now, in the meantime, oh my, we have

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who has gone on the View because this

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Speaker 1: is I think now, is there a more central to

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Speaker 1: the Democrat base show on television than the View?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure there is.

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe covered itself in ignominious stupidity in the last

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Speaker 1: and as the audience is tiny, it's amazing is that

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Speaker 1: they pay these people millions of dollars on Morning Joe.

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Speaker 1: Their audience is a fraction, truly a small fraction the

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Speaker 1: size of the audience that you are all a part

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Speaker 1: of day in and day out on this show'd Starbucks

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Speaker 1: sponsors Morning Joe, not sponsoring us? Well, we got crack

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Speaker 1: at coffee. But Joe Scarborough, I'm sorry, Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: on the View. And the dollars.

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Speaker 2: You've seen this reporting, I'm sure, Clay, the.

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Speaker 1: Dollars have dried up for the Biden family business. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: what a shock you mean that when he's not just

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Speaker 1: able to be a pass through for bribes that people

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Speaker 1: don't actually care to pay Hunter Biden huge sums of

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Speaker 1: money to do nothing. Oh my gosh, this is a

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Speaker 1: shock to no one. But remember the dishonest media, the

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Speaker 1: same media that told you Biden does not did not

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Speaker 1: have dementia. Is the media that told you Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: went to Yale Law School. Maybe people were just paying

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Speaker 1: him because he's so smart, right, But then there's this clay,

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Speaker 1: This is called thirty. Biden was asked would he have

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Speaker 1: beaten Trump? I'm sure you're all going to want to

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Speaker 4: Listen, you had previously said that you thought that you

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Speaker 4: would have won. Since then, Donald Trump won all the

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Speaker 4: battleground states and made in roads with almost every major demographic,

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Speaker 4: from working class voters to Hispanic men to black men.

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Speaker 4: Knowing what you know, now, do you think you would

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: He still got seven minute a fewer votes, yes, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people didn't show up number one, number one,

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Speaker 5: number two. They're very close in those those toss up states.

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Speaker 5: It was. It wasn't a slam dunk. And so look,

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Speaker 5: I you know, every time I've been on the show,

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Speaker 5: which you've been fortuning, I've been fortunate beyond more than once.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Is that we talk. You guys

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Speaker 5: don't focus on as much. And I think it's good

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Speaker 5: polling numbers, but thankful this way, he's had the worst

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean delusional, but yeah, that's a fact delusional. I

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Speaker 1: would just say this though, Clay, I actually.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is where we I'm not trying to re litigate this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think that they were dumb to abandon Biden in

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Speaker 1: favor of Kamala. Like, even with what happened, I really

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Speaker 1: do believe that. I think Trump still would have won,

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Speaker 1: but I think it might have been a little bit tighter.

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Speaker 1: There's also the question of.

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Speaker 2: Seven million more votes. Seven million more votes really.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's first of all, not even true in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, because Trump got seventy seven million votes and

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Speaker 3: I think Kamala got like seventy five and or seventy

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Speaker 3: four point eight or something like that the final numbers.

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Speaker 2: But she got I guess, quite a lot less votes.

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Speaker 3: I think even Democrats are having a hard time explaining

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Speaker 3: how Joe Biden got eighty one million votes in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: You notice they don't really talk about rigged elections anymore,

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Speaker 3: or twenty twenty at all.

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Speaker 2: That story just kind of vanished.

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Speaker 3: I think when you look at the Trump era and

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Speaker 3: you compare Biden, let's say twenty twenty, with Obama twenty twelve,

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Speaker 3: election in the twenty first century that you look at

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Speaker 3: the vote totals and you're like, boy, something's really out

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Speaker 3: of whack here, and it is Biden twenty twenty, a

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Speaker 3: ever did. The only person I think that believes that

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Speaker 3: that was one hundred percent legitimate maybe Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: And that's because his brain doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: How how could you if that is something that everybody

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: If you look at this from the Democrat point of view,

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Speaker 1: he is the high water mark, more so than Obama

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Speaker 3: Buck It's sixty nine million, I believe, was the most

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Speaker 3: votes that Obama ever got. In two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 3: Biden got twelve million more than the best Obama ever did.

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Speaker 3: Even if you control for population growth, you know, the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe the illegals.

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Speaker 1: Even if you do all that, that is an enormous,

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Speaker 1: an enormous gap between Biden and Obama, and there was

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Speaker 1: an enormous gap between Biden and Kamala. So we are

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Speaker 1: to believe that in the twenty first century, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is by far the dementia patient is the most compelling

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Speaker 1: Democrat who has ever run for office by far.

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Speaker 2: That is a hard thing to say out loud and not.

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Speaker 1: Start to burrow your brow a little bit and go, hmmm, really,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're all.

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Speaker 2: Supposed to believe.

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Speaker 1: So now we get into you know, Biden and his

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Speaker 1: current position and what he's saying about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's got to do this, this cleanup because no one

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Speaker 1: cares about Biden when he's not able to sell his office,

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Speaker 1: which is what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: He was selling access to his office.

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Speaker 1: And you know Biden, when he's trying to explain how

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Speaker 1: could Trump have beaten Kamala, this has cut twenty nine Clay.

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Speaker 2: He goes right to sexism.

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Speaker 6: Democrats were feeling optimistic about the vice president's chances of

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Speaker 6: was like twenty sixteen all over again. So why do

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Speaker 6: you think the vice president lost? And were you surprised?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't surprised, Not because I didn't think the vice

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Speaker 5: president most qualified person to be president. She is, she's

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Speaker 5: qualified to be president nine states of America. Well, I

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Speaker 5: was surprised. I wasn't surprised because they went the root

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Speaker 5: I've never seen quite as successful and a consistent campaign

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Speaker 5: under cutting the notion that a woman couldn't lead the country,

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Speaker 1: He's just he's not I mean, he's not of sound mind.

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Speaker 1: And you can tell when he's talking about this, it's

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Speaker 1: just blatherclay. It makes no what he says makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, totally.

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Speaker 3: And well, by the way, the Pope, we got the

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Speaker 2: A great upset.

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Speaker 3: Cardinal Robert Prevost elected Pope Leo the fourteenth. The announcement

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Speaker 3: This is Gurdusky just retweeted this, Robert Prevost. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: look him up because I don't remember him even being

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to read about Prevos Pope Leo the fourteenth. Interesting,

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Speaker 3: I had not Did we even talk about this guy

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Speaker 3: He Raymond did not even meet him, and he came

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Speaker 3: I've been following it on the gambling odds. This guy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Brake. Let's go to get Raymond

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get Raymond on Uh he is from the

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Speaker 3: United States, Buck. According to what I am seeing on

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Speaker 3: for from the United States, American. This is American Pope.

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Speaker 3: Robert Francis Prevost has been announced. Nobody saw that coming.

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Speaker 3: He had a He's from Chicago, percent chance, Chicago, Chicago

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Speaker 2: Yeah, out of nowhere, originally from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Historic serves as the head of the church's Dicastery for Bishops.

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Speaker 1: Powerful position means he oversees the selection of new bishops. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's he's We got a Chicago guy. So not not

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Speaker 1: Pope Pizza Bagel, but Pope Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Very exciting. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: Who would have known, sixty nine year old from Chicago

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Speaker 1: seen as a compromise candidate. We have an American pope.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we're making America great again and also the

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Speaker 1: world great again with an American pope. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: So we will talk about this when we come. But again,

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Speaker 1: breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Robert Francis Prevost the first ever United States pope.

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal. This is even two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty six pope so far, not a single one from America.

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Speaker 1: So we got an American pope. Everybody, this is big.

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Speaker 1: This is bigger news than I was expecting today, no doubt,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, major

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Speaker 2: Very exciting for the flock and for the future of

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Look, we're following the

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Speaker 7: citizens who have been held in jail as felons released

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Speaker 7: instantly because they had not done anything wrong. And my

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Speaker 7: point to him was, sir, that's not what our system

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Speaker 7: is supposed to do. That's weaponization against groups. And here's

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Speaker 7: the thing. They didn't do it just to crush Americans.

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Speaker 7: They did that, but they did it because they wanted

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Speaker 7: to get Trump if they could. Look. I'm inside, guys,

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Speaker 7: I'm seeing the trail they laid out the fifteen twelve.

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Speaker 7: They forced plea bargains, They got people to get convicted

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Speaker 7: one after another, to say to the judges and say

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Speaker 7: to the courts, the fifteen twelve charge is fine, and

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump should be charged too, And they charged him,

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Speaker 7: and only God and a bipartisan Supreme Court stopped us

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Speaker 7: from having to be living with Donald Trump in prison

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Speaker 7: on fifteen twelve. So Tom tillis maybe upset about January sixth.

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Speaker 7: I know enough about victims to know you can't judge

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Speaker 7: how they got to where they feel. But I do

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Speaker 7: just think in terms of our system, man, we got

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Speaker 7: to have an American system that is weaponized against we

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Speaker 7: the people.

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Speaker 1: And I just I have to I have to know

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Speaker 1: because we got a lot of we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of very upset North Carolina voters yesterday with their senator

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Speaker 1: after what happened here, did he make it clear to

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Speaker 1: you in this meeting that he was going to go

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Speaker 1: to Trump and say that he opposed you taking on

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Speaker 1: this critical role to clean up the weaponization of government

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Speaker 1: right in the heart of where it's happening. I mean,

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Speaker 1: did he did he say that here or did he

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Speaker 1: kind of leave it open ended and then later on

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Speaker 1: go to Trump with this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, let me be a little bit respectful

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Speaker 7: of the process, guys. I mean, maybe I don't maybe

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Speaker 7: have a reputation because I'm a I'm a fighter, but

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Speaker 7: I look at it was a long conversation and he

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Speaker 7: had his concerns, and I thought we had to pass

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Speaker 7: forward to at least let the process play out where

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Speaker 7: there was a vote. You know, I hate when people

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Speaker 7: get away with saying I'm not going to vote. By

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Speaker 7: the way, let me point to one villain. Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 7: has employed what should be called the Schumer smear, just

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Speaker 7: like they had the Pelosi had the wrap around, you know,

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Speaker 7: wrap around attack. She did. The Schumer smear was to

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Speaker 7: go out and to say someone's anti Semitic like me,

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Speaker 7: and to try to drive that and that, and that

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Speaker 7: guy showed himself to be a broken, broken leader and

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Speaker 7: in failing and flailing. But so look, I think Senator Tillis,

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Speaker 7: I don't know why he didn't support me. He did

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Speaker 7: say nice things about my character and about my ability,

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Speaker 7: but ultimately, you know, the Senate's going to do what

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Speaker 7: it's going to do, and the President's going to have

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Speaker 7: to lead our executive branch in our country.

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Speaker 3: So we've got cut twenty six. I just want to

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Speaker 3: play what the President said to you and let you react,

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Speaker 3: because it's pretty cool the President's praise of you. If

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Speaker 3: we could play cut twenty six.

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Speaker 9: He's a terrific person and he wasn't getting the support

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Speaker 9: from people that I thought. You know, he's done a

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Speaker 9: very good job. Crime is down twenty five percent in

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Speaker 9: DC during this period of time. I'm very disappointed in that,

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Speaker 9: but I have so many different things that I'm doing

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Speaker 9: now with the trade. You know, one person, I can

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Speaker 9: only make poolm I can only lift that little phone

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Speaker 9: so many times in a day. But we have somebody

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Speaker 9: else that will be great. I just want to say

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Speaker 9: it is unbelievable, and hopefully we can bring him into

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Speaker 9: whether it's DOJ or whatever, in some capacity, because really

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Speaker 9: outstand to me, it was disappointing. I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 9: have to be straight. I was disappointed. A lot of

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Speaker 9: people were disappointed, but that's the way it works sometimes,

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Speaker 9: you know, that's the way it works. And he wasn't rejected,

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Speaker 9: but we felt it would be very it would be hard,

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Speaker 9: and we have somebody else that will be announcing over

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Speaker 9: the next two days who's going to be great.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news for you, Ed is Trump has

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Speaker 1: sort of already set a standard here with the guy

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Speaker 1: who was his National security advisors now the US Ambasador

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Speaker 1: the United Nations, which is also a great gig. So

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think we got something good in

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Speaker 1: your future. You're a fighter, You're doing great things for

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Speaker 1: DC and for your country. We appreciate you making the

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Speaker 1: time today, Sir and we look forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: you and whatever the next capacity is. We've got some guesses.

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Speaker 1: We know it's going to be good. Trump's got your back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.

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Speaker 7: Always a pleasure, guys, Thanks Clay, thanks both, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: That was fan. Guys.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna dive deep here into the pope situation. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: Ed Martin being with us. But we're getting obviously a

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Speaker 1: flurry of everything. Light us up with your calls, your emails,

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Speaker 1: tell us what you think. The first American pope and Clay,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we're gonna get Raymond Royo coming up here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from Vatican City. Actually, I'm curious. Guy went to

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Speaker 3: Villanova undergrad, grew up in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I bet some of you know him.

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Speaker 3: Uh eight hundred two eight two two eight a two

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Speaker 3: if you actually know or have spent any time around

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Speaker 3: Cardinal Robert Prevost, now Pope Leo the fourteenth, the first

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Speaker 3: Welcome Back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show, The New

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Speaker 3: American Pope, Robert Prevost at Doctor Prevost on Twitter, the

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Speaker 3: first Pope I can remember who actually had a Twitter

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Speaker 3: account and has had a Twitter account since twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: Pope Leo the fourteenth an American pope. If you're just

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Speaker 3: joining us, born in Chicago, went to Villanova, where he

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Speaker 3: majored in math before he decided to go into the

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Speaker 3: UH into the priesthood, became a priest in nineteen eighty two.

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Speaker 3: We are asking you right now, never had this opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Some of you may have spent time around him. You

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Speaker 3: may have had relationships with him in your Catholic churches

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Speaker 3: over the years. He has been in Peru recently, but

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Speaker 3: born in Chicago, went to Villanova eight hundred and two

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Speaker 3: two two eight eight two. Registered Republican has been critical

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Speaker 3: of Jade Vance and tru somewhat publicly, although again, how

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Speaker 3: much of this is him trying to stay in the

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Speaker 3: middle and criticize both sides. In other words, if you

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Speaker 3: knew that people knew you were a registered Republican and

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Speaker 3: you were trying to prepare yourself, I don't know. He

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Speaker 3: is seen as very much a moderate who does not

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Speaker 3: have strong political opinions, at least not given yet.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, he's got a lot of power and

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Speaker 3: we will see how exactly he uses that power. Now

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Speaker 3: because he's sixty nine years old, if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 3: he's probably got a decade plus to be very influential

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Speaker 3: as the head of the Catholic Church. So did you

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Speaker 3: ever think you would see an American pope? You're a Catholic,

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Speaker 3: did you like, was that a conversation in churches like hey,

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Speaker 3: with the pope American. Never heard anybody have a conversation

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Speaker 3: before about not only would be an American pope, but

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard anyone discuss the need for one rather

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Speaker 3: or talk about it even as something that would be

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Speaker 3: a likelihood of possibility. I know there are people who

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Speaker 3: are disappointed at some level because they wanted Cardinal Sarah,

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Speaker 3: who is I've seen some clips of him and I

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Speaker 3: like what I see. But this Pope, we shall have

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Speaker 3: to see where he is on this.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there's the speaking ex cathedra ex cathedra

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Speaker 1: church doctrinal issues, and then there's what the pope will

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Speaker 1: say when he's touring the world and when he's doing

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Speaker 1: interviews and all of this, And I think that there'll

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Speaker 1: be something of a mix here. I mean, yes, there

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Speaker 1: are a few areas where the Pope is not going

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Speaker 1: to align I think with what I believe and what

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Speaker 1: many of you believe, and he is essentially one who

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Speaker 1: thinks that America should operate as a refugee camp for

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Speaker 1: the whole world. This is a place where, unfortunately, I

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Speaker 1: think the desire for true social justice and to be

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Speaker 1: kind and to be taking in the poor can swamp

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Speaker 1: the vote and cause problems. So that's one area where

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff that would make the right particularly happy. But if

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Speaker 1: he's going to continue on issues of church doctrine where

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Speaker 1: the church has been, which I think he will, you

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Speaker 1: won't see priest marrying, You won't see any change on

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Speaker 1: the LGBTQ stance and gender identity stuff. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: all I think what we're seeing based on the tweets

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Speaker 1: and some of the stances that he has taken in

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Speaker 1: the past.

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Speaker 3: Let me clean up something. There is a report that

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Speaker 3: he was a registered Republican. Our buddy Ryan Gerdusky says

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Speaker 3: Illinois doesn't register voters by party. He's not a registered

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Speaker 3: Republican as a result. He did, however, vote in the

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Speaker 3: Republican primary several times and models as a likely Republican voter.

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Speaker 3: That's similar to Tennessee. Like we don't have registered parties here.

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Speaker 3: I walk in and say, hey, which primary I want

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Speaker 3: to vote in? So the current New American pope has

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Speaker 3: voted in Republican primaries historically. According to Ryan Gardusky, that

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Speaker 3: does not make him. I want to clean that up

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Speaker 3: a little bit. Because some people are reporting that he's

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Speaker 3: a registered Republican. That does not make him a registered Republican.

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Speaker 3: Now again, I mentioned his social media account, which you

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Speaker 3: and I pulled up and started to look through.

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Speaker 2: There is criticism of jd. Vance. There.

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Speaker 3: There is some suggestions that he is not a huge

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Speaker 3: a huge fan of Trump. But also during his tenure

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Speaker 3: as a bishop in Peru, he said the promotion of

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Speaker 3: gender ideology is confusing because it seeks to create genders

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Speaker 3: that don't exist.

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Speaker 2: So he is not some hey, trans right.

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Speaker 1: And that's not going to make you particularly welcome in

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Speaker 1: the modern Democrat party right if you were to take

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Speaker 1: this into the political realm. Also, the church does not

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Speaker 1: allow gay marriage or will not marry gays. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff about the Catholic Church that is at

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Speaker 1: clear abortion probably the biggest, one, huge opposition to the Democrats'

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Speaker 1: core ethos, and yet a lot of Democrats about catholic

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Speaker 1: I mean so much so that people like Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: and Joe Biden, who advance godless and even demonic policies,

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Speaker 1: are proud of talking about how they're devout Catholics. Like, really,

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Speaker 1: I find that a mockery of the church. But nonetheless

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Speaker 1: you have Catholics who will go and tout they're both

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Speaker 1: Democrats status and Catholicism at the same time, not understanding

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Speaker 1: that those things are in very clear juxtaposition with each other.

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Speaker 1: And then people who go, what about Republicans in Wall

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Speaker 1: Street and the fat cats. That's like the Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: flying around on the private jet while he's talking about

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Speaker 1: the oligarchy. Yeah, we'll play that when we come back.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Charlie Kirk has published his entire voting history.

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Speaker 3: He has voted in Republican primaries when even when he

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Speaker 3: was not living abroad, he's had different postings. Charlie Kirk says,

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Speaker 3: our data shows he's a strong Republican and pro life, so.

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Speaker 1: To be pro life. To be clear, Charlie's an evangelical.

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Speaker 1: Charlie's not a Catholic, so I wouldn't expect him to

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Speaker 1: know much of Catholic doctrine or maybe he does. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, being pro life is you cannot

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Speaker 1: be you cannot be a member of the Catholic clergy

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Speaker 1: and say yeah abortion. So that's I think the gender

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Speaker 1: ideology thing. That's a quote from the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty strong statement of sanity from twenty twelve

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Speaker 1: that I read. So we'll continue to break this down

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Speaker 1: major news. We've got a American pope, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: caught up on the latest, including Joe Biden on the

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Speaker 1: year