1 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, very impressive right there, uh in in 2 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: the square, and like I said, they've got they've got 3 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: signs for Trump. The hustters are being released, the presidents 4 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: there with net Ya who he's gonna meet hostages, He's 5 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna address the Knesset, UH, and then he's got a 6 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: whole second part to the day, believe. 7 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: It or not. 8 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: He then goes to Egypt for the UH for the 9 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Peace Conference or the Redevelopment Conference or the Middle East Conference, 10 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: whatever they're calling it. Uh, Ben Harnwell, Churs Starmer's uh 11 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: sircure showing up today, McCrone, your favorite. His government's collapsing 12 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: in France, but he's gonna he's gonna take time to 13 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: go down to the Red. 14 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: Sea Resort in Egypt to be part of it. Uh. 15 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: You know, they've always had a big hand in the levant. 16 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: In fact, it was the French and the British that 17 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: carved up the Middle East. As Joel Gilbert said, put 18 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: these artificial UH nation create, these artificial nation states that 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: have kind of been part of the problem ever since 20 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: your your your, your your thoughts through your beady eyes 21 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: there in Rome. 22 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: Look look, look, look, Steve, my bad eye is a 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: glittering serpent, like as I am watching the feet now 24 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: before I before, before I go into the bad cynicism, 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: I have to pay tribute to to what Donald Trump 26 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: has achieved with this. 27 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: This is this is something that he has forced through 28 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: with the power of his will alone, effectively, the power 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: of his charisma, the power of his will, and the 30 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: crowds that we're seeing now in the feed is a 31 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: result directly of that. That is what you call personal authority. 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: He made this happen because he wanted this to happen. 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: He wanted to see these images now, and that is 34 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: what he focused on, and that is what he has 35 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: worked towards. And I have to give him absolute credit 36 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: to that, right and just highlights the difference between when 37 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: you have a real president and when you have an 38 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: autopen president. This is President Trump's day, right. I give 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: him full, absolute, total tribute to that. He deserves it. 40 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: He deserves to be applauded for this. That said that, 41 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: there are things I want to dig into over the 42 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: next three hours on this show to do with the 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: costs that it has taken to get here, political costs 44 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: and also costs to do moving forward to maintain in 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: inverted commons the piece. See if you flagged up on GETA. 46 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: It's an extremely important earlier on today. And that is 47 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: the fact is there seems to be a difference of 48 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: opinion even today when the crowds are gathering as to 49 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: what exactly is being celebrated here. 50 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: It's clearly the release. 51 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Of the hostages, but also the fact is this the 52 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: end of the war? President Trump says definitively that it's over, 53 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: b B himself is saying equally definitively that it's not. 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 4: This is important for the United States because it would 55 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: appear that President Trump, or let me say, America, is 56 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: now underwriting both sides of this war. Both it is 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: really sided, and of course now the girls side. With 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: these security guarantees. This is a touch paper that could 59 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: easily explode moving forward, and they're obviously interests. You know 60 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: that the harrodem that the Orthodox chews there and the 61 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: government could easily fall at some point. Important to remember, Steve, 62 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: that only the first phase of the Trump plan has 63 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: actually been agreed to in the Kinesset. The substantial long 64 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: term piece will hinge around the more substantial non hostage issues, 65 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 4: and that I think is where the difficulties Israel is 66 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: going to face moving forward. Look, you mentioned in your question, 67 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: of course, the Europeans are beloved Europeans, apart from Phony 68 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: Maloney who's also in Egypt. Now the three country the 69 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: three primary countries you've mentioned, Britain, Germany, France, all of them, 70 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: as you're indicating, all of them are suffering massive domestic 71 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: turmoil right now. And I can't help but think that 72 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: their their eagerness to fly over to Cairo to be 73 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 4: part of the peace negotiations is an attempt to distract 74 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: from the failures of their own domestic agenda. And that 75 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: is something and I'll hand back to you on this point, Steve. 76 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: This is something that I hope the hierarchy, that the 77 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: political maga hierarchy in the United States is attentive to 78 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: a close with this point, right close to this point. 79 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: Twenty hostages being released is an incredible thing, but two 80 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: hundred Americans are dying every day of Fentana, and the 81 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: political the political camera needs to be focused directly on 82 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: that and another domestic issues. I think Steve. 83 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Ben stick right there. Ben Harnwell or International editor in. 84 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: A Rome, Joe Gilbert Ben's kind of right I mean, 85 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: there is an agreement to release these hostages. 86 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: There's some sort. 87 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Of agreement about how massling down its arms and Hamas 88 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe going back and being some interim security force for 89 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: some short period of time while the idea of pulls 90 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: back and of course you've got the celebration there but 91 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: the hostages. But there's a lot of this that's not 92 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: really particularly defined. 93 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 2: Now it's this afternoon at. 94 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: The Red Sea Resort in Egypt. I think there may 95 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: be a couple of. 96 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: Documents are going to be signed or at least. 97 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Agreed to, But this thing is still pretty pretty soft 98 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: around the edges, is it not. 99 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 5: I agree it started out as Sunday night Hamas had 100 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 5: to take it or leave it. That was like a 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: week ago, and then it turned into a hostage exchange 102 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: deal with the other points to be negotiated and worked 103 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: out later. The Egyptians, Turks and golf Arabs jumped all 104 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: over and said, okay, let's have our own little peace 105 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: agreement and summit, and we're going to fund and create 106 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: a Palestinian state in Gaza. I think they're putting together 107 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: a political united movement to demand a Palestinian state, not 108 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: only in Gaza, but in the West Bank and Jerusalem 109 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 5: to help influence the Israeli election next year that will say, hey, 110 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: we're going to give you peace, will strip time to 111 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: kill you, just give us all this land and we'll 112 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: have peace in the Middle East. And they'll try to 113 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: see if he Israeli public will go for it, in 114 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: which case Israel will be entering another peace agreement, and 115 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: I think they'd be setting themselves up for more disappointment, 116 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: just like the peace treaty with Egypt, because Egypt saw 117 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: the agreement with Israel completely differently than Israel saw it. 118 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: Israel got the Sinai and remained a hostile force. Egypt 119 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: allowed the arming of Hamas. Imagine having a peace treaty 120 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: with Egypt and they allowed Hamas to be armed and 121 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 5: wage war on Israel. So I think some of the 122 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: peace movement in Israel has been shattered and gotten the 123 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: reality that the Islamic world does not accept Israel in 124 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: any size or circumstance. But it remains to be seen 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 5: because I think in Sharmelschef there is a new coalition 126 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: coming together that will be proposing a piece deal for 127 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: a new Israeli government. 128 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh No, I agree that it's you've got Katar. The 129 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Saudis probably UAE prepared to put in I think tens 130 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars, maybe even hundreds of billions of dollars. 131 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: The Turks are sitting there saying, we'll take this security, 132 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: We'll organize the Arabs and the Muslim nations on security 133 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: and Gaza. Kurt Mills, I mean, I think that's the 134 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: deal that, however you want to cut it, Gaza becomes 135 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: at least the beginning of a proto Palestinian state, but 136 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: two state solution, right. I mean, it's obvious to me, 137 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious what's going to happen, Sir. 138 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 139 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 6: I mean, look, the President is the driver on this. 140 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 6: And the term in war is often that the enemy 141 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: gets a vote. But the piece here should be that 142 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: America gets a vote. And so I have to respectfully 143 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 6: disagree with one of my co panelists. I think that 144 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 6: the President clearly sees this as an end to the 145 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 6: greater Middle East War. I don't think he wants to 146 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 6: use all his political capital to fly over to Israel 147 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 6: and fly over to Egypt today to sign a Gaza 148 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 6: only deal, only for new hostilities to break. 149 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: Eleven Gue on. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, for a second, 150 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get back. No, I agree with you. I 151 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: think Jack Posobac jumping here. 152 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I think when that when Netanya, who addressed the nation 153 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: last night that video, said the larger war is over 154 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and Trump in fact, the war's over, uh, And I 155 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: think he's meaning that, Hey, America is not going to 156 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: be there. Like I said, anything Israel wants to do 157 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: in his own go with it. I'm a nationalist. You 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: people in Israel should be Israel first. I've got no 159 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: problem with that at all. They should do it. It's 160 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: just that we can't, you know, be Israel first here 161 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: in the United States. 162 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: We've got to put the United States first. I think 163 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Kirch right. 164 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: I think that the president looks at this as in 165 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: the saffronoon, as that he calls it a Middle East. 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't just call it a Gaza piece. Jack Bisobik, Yeah, 167 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: I think I. 168 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 7: Could agree with that, just in terms of the sense 169 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 7: that if Israel were to do something after this, that 170 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 7: the President would not be there. I mean, look, you've 171 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 7: got just north of Israel. 172 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: Of course, all. 173 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 7: Of the real questions about what's going on in Syria 174 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 7: with this new leader there, the Ottomans pushing down from 175 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 7: the north across Aleppo id Lib. These real questions about 176 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: southern Syria. Who's really going to be the you know, 177 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 7: who's really going to be the guarranturs they are these 178 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 7: local militias or are you going to have Damascus be 179 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 7: able to exert any kind of control. And of course China, look, 180 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 7: China is trying to look in that China wants Syria 181 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 7: to be a Chinese highway for them to be able 182 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 7: to push their new silk road for their products both 183 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 7: into into an across the Mediterranean and then for oil 184 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 7: flows back into the People's Republic. So there's a lot 185 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 7: of questions about what goes on in Syria. I wouldn't 186 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 7: I mean, look at the Middle East. I think we 187 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised if we do see some forms of 188 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 7: regional conflict pop off. But at the same time, I 189 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 7: do agree with Kurt that President Trump clearly is putting 190 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 7: this squeeze on everyone to say put the guns down. 191 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, We're going to take another commercial break while 192 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: we can. President Trump is in the beast with the 193 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: order of battle here is supposed to be. I think 194 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the President is trying to meet with some of the 195 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: hostage families and the hostages before addressing the Kanesse in 196 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: a formal address. 197 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: To the Nation of Israel. 198 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: He then will go and go back to Air Force one, 199 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: return to Ben Gurion Airport, go back to Air Force one, 200 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: and then leave for Egypt to this peace conference that's 201 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: going to take place this afternoon at the Red Seat Resort. 202 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short commercial break here. Gold is 203 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: almost at forty one one hundred bucks. Does that surprise you? 204 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: The Chinese Commists Party, Not that this is important, but 205 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: I did say the Mid East is a side show. 206 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: In the Israel situation's a side show to a side show. 207 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: Now more than ever, I think that's accurate. The Chinese 208 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Commists Party full scale economic war against the United States 209 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: of America. We'll get into all this and much more 210 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: historic trip to Israel on a mission of peace. Donald 211 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: John Trump, the Commander in chief the United States back 212 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: no more. 213 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen K. 214 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: Bath, Joe Gilbert. It's a forty five minute drive. 215 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: By the way. 216 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: This shows you how small a country geographically Israel is, 217 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: and really how tiny Gaza is. But from the Bengurian airport. 218 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: It's only a forty five minute drive to the kanesseant 219 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. The President en route now with the Prime Minister. 220 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Think that conversation inside the Beast is right now, Sir. 221 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: Well. 222 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 5: I think. I think hopefully Bibi is giving Trump some 223 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: perspective with something like this. Is that the Arab and 224 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: Muslim countries have been promoting for years and years that 225 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: the only problem in the Middle East is the Palestinians 226 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: don't have their own state, and they do that to 227 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: avoid addressing the real problems that exist in the region. 228 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: It's the divide between Shia Islam and Iran and the 229 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: largest Sunni population. The Sunnis don't really consider the Shia 230 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: Iranians to be real Muslims. There's a huge divide between 231 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: rich elites and poor masses. The Gulf Arabs, the Saudis, 232 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 5: the Kataris are hated by the masses of the people 233 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: who are poor because they hoard the wealth. There is 234 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: the Turks trying to reassert themselves. There are so many problems, 235 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: persecutions of Christian minorities. There's so many problems in the 236 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: Middle East, and these countries have sought to avoid addressing 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: them by saying the only problem is the Palestinians. So uh, 238 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 5: this is these issues are huge in the Middle East 239 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 5: and they will exist whether or not the Palestinians put 240 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: together a state in Gaza and elsewhere. And I think 241 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 5: Beebe actually does a good job of trying to give 242 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: history and perspective whenever he talks at the UN, when 243 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: he talks to Trump, and you know, the Qataris have 244 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: been playing all sides. People don't understand who the Kataris 245 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: really are. In Qatar. There's three hundred thousand Kataris and 246 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 5: three million expatriates. It's a small group of this extended 247 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: family that controls all the wealth, and they cut deals 248 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 5: with everybody. They pay off Hamas, they pay off American universities. 249 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: You know, they give the US a base. So there's 250 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: a lot of different actors. 251 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: By the way, one of the reasons we have a 252 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: problem with Mamdani in New York City, Qatar is all 253 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: over the New York City public education system. Qatar to me, 254 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I think, to me, I've always said one of the 255 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: worst actors in world. I think they financed the Muslim Brotherhood. 256 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: They use their wealth and they've had a tremendous by 257 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: putting investments and put in partnering with people. They are 258 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful, given that they were almost toppled by the UAE. 259 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: In the Saudis a. 260 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Week after President Trump after we left in twenty seventeen, Sir. 261 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: That's correct. Look, the Saudis do everything because they're so insecure, 262 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: not the Saudi's, the Kataris. The Saudis also, but Kataris 263 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 5: are insecure, they're paranoid, and they think what they've done 264 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: is they've overplayed their hand over the years by cutting 265 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: deals with every single side of every conflict, paying everybody off, 266 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: because they're always in survival mode. So that's who they are, 267 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: and you can't really trust them because they're always going 268 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: to cut a deal with somebody else. So the very idea, 269 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: even the Abraham Accords, the idea that the Israelis get 270 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: an embassy in these you know, Arab Gulf states that 271 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: have these rich elites and poor masses, it doesn't have 272 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: that much value. And I do believe the Abraham Cords 273 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: are kind of overvalued, and the Israeli should be calling 274 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: for free elections in Golf States, in Egypt, in all 275 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: these countries that if they want peace with Israel, they 276 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 5: should hold free elections, and I think you'd see a 277 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 5: whole different story in the Middle East. 278 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: If the Abraham Accords. 279 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Let's go there, because that is a basically that's the 280 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,239 Speaker 1: predicate of the deal, which is more of a business relationship, 281 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: commercial relationship, talking about capital markets and integration of logistics chains, 282 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: the transportation air flights from Tel Aviv to the Gulf Emirates, 283 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: particularly in Turkey. So if that's a shaky foundation, because 284 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I think with Jared in their concept and even Trump, 285 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: is that the politics here and the politicians are just 286 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: too embedded in ancient vendettas, and if you want to 287 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: try to move past it, you've got to look at 288 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: the cash flow coming from the old the golf Eates, 289 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: and they're putting that in crypto, they're putting that in 290 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. They're trying to transform their economies and doing that. 291 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Play to that and see if that can't somehow change 292 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: the Middle East. I mean this day, we're here today 293 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: because of that, and because of the Qataris and the 294 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Saudis and UAE saying we will underwrite to the tune 295 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: of tensa banions of dollars, a massive redevelopment of Gaza, 296 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: and President trumpsay is not going to happen overnight, because 297 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: first off, you've got the things looks like the Western. 298 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: Front in World War One, but you're going to build. 299 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: Essentially a Tel Aviv equivalent with two million Palestinians. And 300 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: that is to me, the proto two state solution that 301 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: is pretty obvious is happening here. 302 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: Sir well. 303 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: Two points. So one is that the vast majority of 304 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: Muslims in the Islamic world hate the Gulf Arabs. They 305 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 5: think that they're hoarding wealth and they're suppressing the a 306 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: So these countries. You can try to cut deals with 307 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: these royal families, but they are hated by the Islamists 308 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 5: and by the vast majority of regular Muslim people. Any 309 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 5: deal in Gaza is going to quickly. The demand is 310 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: going to expand we don't only want Gaza, we want 311 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 5: half of Jerusalem, we want the West Bank. And they'll 312 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: be hectoring and lecturing Israel if you get rid of Natanyahu. 313 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 5: We got this great peace deal. Peace is going to 314 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 5: break out. And the Israelis hopefully have learned their lesson 315 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: that every time they cut a deal with these Arab countries. 316 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 5: It never works out like they thought it would. It 317 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 5: turns into a kind of a hostile piece and they 318 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: make more demands. So I think developments are going to 319 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: happen very quickly. Trump, I think is going to try 320 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 5: his best. But there is a large group of Muslim 321 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: countries united with a plan, and I think that the 322 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 5: details of that plan go far beyond Gaza. 323 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 2: Oh definitely, It's no doubt. 324 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: He says a Middle East when he's talking about the 325 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: war ending. I mean, he's adam it, it's the Middle East. 326 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: This thing today is I think it's called a Middle 327 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: East conference. It's not called the Gaza Conference. Right there, 328 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: you see the motorcade of the president. They're heading with 329 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: the Prime minister. They're heading to kanesse It So, Kurt Mills, 330 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: what would the President actually say in his address, Because 331 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: as we've kind of detailed here the President's ideas, I'm 332 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: laying out an architecture for peace in the Middle East, 333 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: and the first step of this is return of hostages 334 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and amass laying down their arms and the idea of 335 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: retreating and all these details of the gods are part 336 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: of it. But he's got a much broader agenda to 337 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: kind of put this to bed, as he says, once 338 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: or for all in three thousand years, right, And the 339 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: people are putting up signs in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, 340 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: which is not Trump friendly country, calling Trump, as Jack 341 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: Bosoviac says, Cyrus the Great. 342 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, So what is President Trump? 343 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: And a few minutes when he addresses the Israeli people 344 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: from the Kanesse, what's he going to say? 345 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think you should basically, and I 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: am cautiously optimistic that he will give a sequel address 347 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: to the one that he gave in the Gulf States 348 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 6: in mid May when he explicitly denounced neo conservatism. He 349 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: explicitly iterated that he was going to do a step 350 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 6: change in US foreign policy for generation. And then you know, 351 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 6: this sort of Middle East theater went sideways in June 352 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 6: when Israel attacked Iran. I think in October there's an 353 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 6: opportunity to turn the page on Hawk's summer and make 354 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 6: it very clear that Trump is a friend of peace 355 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 6: and also that he is a friend of the Israeli people. 356 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 6: I think he was very revealing and I got a 357 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 6: lot of attention over the weekend that Trump's name in 358 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 6: the Israeli streets was cheered, and that Prime Minister Netya, 359 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 6: who's name was booed primaries to net Yahoo is a 360 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 6: wily operator. He is welcome to run for re election 361 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 6: again next year. But Trump's fate need not be net 362 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 6: Yahu's fate. And I think he can deliver a durable 363 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 6: peace agreement here and one that hopefully slightly or further 364 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 6: decouples the relationship between the US and Israel or else 365 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: that Trump's entire final tournament office, where however long he 366 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 6: is in the White House, will be dominated by this theater. 367 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 6: And he doesn't want that. The American people don't want that, 368 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 6: and the Brother Maga movement does not want that. 369 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: You said the neo kon. I want to go back 370 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: to that what he said. 371 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: President Trump was particularly critical of American foreign policy in 372 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the past of trying to put your own culture onto 373 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: cultures that are foreign democracy in the Middle East, right, 374 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's pretty adamant about that. I know, Joel 375 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: just talked about, Hey, we ought to have direct elections 376 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: that would overthrow all these corrupt oral families. You won't 377 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: have any argument there for me about the corruption of 378 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: the of the Gulf Emirates. But President Trump is pretty 379 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: adamant kind of a break with traditional American foreign policy 380 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that this was not He's not in the he's not 381 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: in the business of rolling out democracy through the Middle East, 382 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: and even said other things about, you know, people have 383 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: their own cultures and those cultures have to develop over 384 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: time with their economics. 385 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 386 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 6: I mean, I think Trump has the reasonable opinion here, 387 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 6: not just then at least, but in the broader world theater, 388 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 6: which is that he works with whoever leads the organization 389 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: or the country. I think you have seen direct negotiations 390 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 6: from Trump's emissaries with even Hamas. It's not that Trump 391 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 6: is a fan of Amas. It's not that Trump is 392 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 6: going to invite Amas to the White House anytime soon, 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: but he'll deal with them. He represents that he knows 394 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 6: that they represent a perspective, that they have an armada 395 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 6: of Palestinians underneath them, and that they need to be 396 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 6: brought to the tape too. And you see, you see 397 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: time and again a desire to just work pragmatically with 398 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: who is there. I would contrast that, and again, you know, 399 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 6: he has sort of changed throughout his political career. But 400 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: netyah who was a very close ally of the George W. 401 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 6: Bush White House, and what was the George W. Bush 402 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: White House perspective regime change, regime change, regime change. That 403 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 6: is not Trump's instinct in the slightest. 404 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: Hang on one second, Jack, I know you got to 405 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: bounce as we come upon a four o'clock for a 406 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: m Eastern daylight time. 407 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Your thoughts sort of put this in perspective. 408 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 7: Well, Steve, I I think what what the panel's saying 409 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 7: here is is right that President Trump has come in 410 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 7: and is repudiating both neo conservative and neoliberal camps here 411 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 7: in terms of their schools of thought. He didn't notice, 412 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 7: he didn't do this using the infrastructure of the UN. 413 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 7: He didn't use the he didn't use the United States 414 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 7: military to get involved in any of the operations in 415 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 7: Hamas or in Gaza. Regarding them, perhaps some intel sharing, 416 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 7: but this was direct diplomacy and using economic strength. And 417 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 7: this is key because what do we see going on 418 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 7: in the area is China is making a huge play 419 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 7: for the newly reconstructed Syria to the north. China's getting 420 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 7: back to Aleppo and Palmyra, these classic historic cities that 421 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 7: were hubs along the ancient silk road. China's building its 422 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 7: new silk road across the New Syria, and so the 423 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 7: United States is of course wanting to make sure they 424 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 7: maintain relationships in the region as they look as those 425 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 7: actors Russia China now coming in as well. So President 426 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 7: Trump making a key point to understand that while the 427 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 7: United States is putting its own interests first, is not 428 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 7: retreating from the rest of the world, and so it's 429 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 7: shoring up those relationships in the Middle East, and in fact, 430 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: I would even say strengthening relationships with new partners, because 431 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 7: now you've got Quitar that is intrinsically they are dependent 432 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 7: on the United States now for their diplomatic efforts and 433 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 7: is real as well, quite frankly. 434 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: In their air base and Idaho. We'll get to that. Jack. 435 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: You're gonna be in human events. 436 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I hopefully will tap you for the traditional war room 437 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: ten a m Show. 438 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: Where do people Go? 439 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: Your Twitter feed is the associated press of the MAGA movement. 440 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Where do people go? 441 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: Sir Well, Steve will be up you posting throughout the night. 442 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 7: It is a historic day. It is history being made 443 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 7: before our eye. So go to at Jack Posobic on Twitter. 444 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 7: Truth Getter and Telegram, and then of course the podcast 445 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 7: at Human Events and Steve I just got to say, 446 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 7: Charlie would love to see this. 447 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie would have been on. We'd been doing three 448 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: co hosts. Charlie Kirk. 449 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Tomorrow afternoon, on his thirty second birthday, we'll receive at 450 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: four pm in the afternoon at the White House the 451 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award the United 452 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: States can award. 453 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: Jack Pasobic, thank you. We'll see you later in the day. 454 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Sure, commercial break, We're gonna come back to Jerusalem. 455 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: In a moment. 456 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 5: Excuse your host, Stephen k Bath. 457 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: By the way, today is a day I think as 458 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: you stay with us for our coverage, you might want 459 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: to also go to birch Gold. 460 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: Gold is on fire. I don't know. 461 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: The Chinese Commists Party declared economic war against the United 462 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: States on rare earth. 463 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: Which the industrial. 464 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Side of rare earths are what they call heavy rare 465 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: earths drive the industrial production process us in the United States, 466 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and they've threatened to cut us off. President Trump is 467 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: not President Trump is not happy about that. And President 468 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: Trump is said they're going to add one hundred percent 469 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: teriffs now that. 470 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: May all be up in the air as they try 471 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: to work things out. 472 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: But gold has been on fire over the weekend, although 473 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the capital market is a little bit calm down because 474 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: President Trump says, put out a nice message last night saying, hey, 475 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: she had a bad day and we're going to figure 476 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: this out. 477 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: I did put up a get. 478 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: Her post write after that said, mister President, just remember 479 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: they're at economic war with us and have been since 480 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. 481 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 2: And she is no friend, right, she doesn't have friends. 482 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: But once again it shows you President Trump is trying 483 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: to be a global peacemaker, whether it's from Ukraine to 484 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: the South China Sea to now the Middle East, the 485 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip and the border Middle East. 486 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: President Trump is, of course a guy like that. 487 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: You would never award the Nobel Peace Price to although 488 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: the woman who got it, and she's very brave and 489 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: courageous politician down in Venezuela. She wouldn't even exist if 490 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: it was not for the space created for her by 491 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: President Trump to even exist and not be in some 492 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: camp somewhere already dead. So President Trump trying to throughout 493 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: the world bring peace because his thoughts are you can't 494 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: have a prosperous America until we are totally PROSPERSUS America, 495 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: until you have peace. Right there, you see the that's 496 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: the lead car in the motorcade. They're heading towards Jerusalem 497 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: and to the Kanessa. President Trump is about to address 498 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: the Israeli people, and like you said, there's still a 499 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: lot of open questions about exactly what this deal is 500 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: before I go to Ben harnwun Rome. During the break, 501 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned something, Joel, I think is very important for 502 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: people to understand the assault on October seventh. As shocking 503 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: as it was to the world and the Israeli people, 504 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: it really hit kind of the progressive left. I mean, 505 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: they had this where Matt Faracci told the day there 506 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: was kind of a ceremony where the Nova concert was. 507 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: I consider that that day to make sure people could 508 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: understand what's going on. It was kind of like a 509 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: burning man that we have here in the United States, right, 510 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of young people music, obviously, drugs, you know, 511 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: just kind of hanging loose. The Kibbutzes are some of 512 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: the more progressive, and these were all to the south 513 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: right that they had had a lot of interaction with 514 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Palestinians before and quite frankly had as you said, taking people. 515 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: To the hospital. So it was not just a wake 516 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: up call. 517 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: It was a traumatic shock when the Muslim brotherhood attacked, 518 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: was it, not, sir. 519 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I imagine if you're a Democrat living in 520 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: San Francisco and you support illegal immigration and then a 521 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 5: guy from El Salvador comes in your house and murders 522 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: the rest of your family members, you would have like 523 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: a shock about your entire belief system. So this is 524 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 5: kind of what happened in Israel. The far left loonies 525 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 5: who lived in these would seem along the Gaza border, 526 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: we're just in love with the idea of a Palestinian state. 527 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: They would bring them to work on their keyboud seem. 528 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 5: They would pick up Palestinian children and take them to 529 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: get free medical care in Israel and take them back. 530 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: So this is a group of people that were actually 531 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: attacked the most by Hamas. They came over and murdered 532 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: them and kidnapped them. So the far left in Israel, 533 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 5: their view that peace is going to break out as 534 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: soon as you just give the Palestinians their own country. 535 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 5: Their worldview was shattered on October seventh, and the next 536 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: is early election. I think is going to reflect that. 537 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: I don't think these far left parties that are telling 538 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: the public, if you just create a Palestinian state, everything's 539 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: going to be great. But there will be a coalition 540 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 5: the one getting together in char mal Che later today, 541 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: I'm going to put together this coalition of Egypt, the 542 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 5: Gulf States, Turkey, and they're going to come with this 543 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 5: idea that you know, we'll give billions of dollars to Gaza. 544 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 5: Just give us Easter is let me give us the 545 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: West Bank and turn Israel into an indefensible state, and 546 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 5: we'll give you peace. And that will be the big 547 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: question in the next Israeli election if the Israeli elector 548 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 5: will have learned their lesson that giving territory leads to 549 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: war and not peace. And that's the lesson that the 550 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 5: far left has learned in Israel. 551 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I tell you what, while we have time, we're gonna 552 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: take a break at the at the top of the hour, 553 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: it will be four a m. 554 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: Is that correct? Four am? In the United States. 555 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: President Trump is hurtling now via motorcade with the Prime Minister. 556 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: He's heading to the Kanessa. Will he will address the 557 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: Israeli people. 558 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: I believe that there will actually be some hostages in 559 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: some hostage families there beforehand. President Trump will get to 560 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: meet them and to hear their stories and actually to 561 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: I think, embrace the moment. 562 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: This moment, it would not have come. 563 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: As Kurt Mills said and Ben Harnwell said so so eloquently, 564 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: this is one the act of what they call a jargernaut, 565 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: President Trump. This is the force of personality, the force 566 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: of will. He as we try to do in football, 567 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: he imposed his will onto various parties to make this happen. 568 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Of course, bb Netnyahuo not a fan of this deal. 569 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Tel Aviv Levin and the israel First crowd not a 570 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: fan of this deal. But like we say here in 571 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: the Warm, they brought it. They brought it on themselves. 572 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: And I think Gilbert's absolutely correct. You've got some pretty 573 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: dicey characters, particularly Turkey, right, Turkey's going to provide the 574 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: security cutter and Saudi Arabia going to provide the money. 575 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: President Trump's got his work cutout for it. And remember 576 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: President Trump is the President of the Board of Peace, 577 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: and that is going to be quite a task, particularly 578 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: with this cast of characters in their history thrown to that. 579 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: You got Tony Blair Well. I think he's been on 580 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: the guitar payroll for a couple of decades. Anyway, we're 581 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna get to all of this. We're gonna take a 582 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: short commercial break. Make sure you take your phone out 583 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: text abandon at nine eight nine eight nine eight. Get 584 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: the Ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals 585 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: in the Age of Trump. 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