1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Now welcome to lakeike is Live. It is Sunday Night, 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: January twenty second year of Our Lord, twenty twenty three. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Back in nineteen ninety nine, Bitch McMahon and the NWWF 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: held a WWF title match at halftime with the Super Bowl, 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: and as a child, I thought, maybe we'll have some 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: fortnay where we can have something important enough that we 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: can stage at halftime of NFL postseason play Well, here 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: we are Niners and Cowboys sitting at halftime, and we 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of college football to talk about. We're jampacked, 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: we're high, a type of heated appropriately so downtown Nashville, Tennessee. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: They're lying to you about star ratings again, recruiting, and 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: a lot of guys in the NFL playoffs right now 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: that have lower star ratings coming out of high school. 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Is the entire industry of sham. Well, of course it's not. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: I will explain momentarily. Job openings, Yeah, I got some 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: of those, but we've got job approval numbers to talk 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: about tonight. Four more coaches and we have a very 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: very wide range of job approval numbers that have gone 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: out so far. A lot of folks are strangely polarized 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: on Dion Sanders. Yeah, we're gonna do one of those segments, 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: by the way, and this particular segment is going to 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: be beneficial to you either way. Either you're interested in 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Deon Sanders or you couldn't care less about Dion Sanders, 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: in which case we are answering a question from someone 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: who asks why we keep talking about Deon Sanders. So 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: we're going to hit that. Five more bold predictions from August. 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Got some good ones tonight. They're watching us in Thompson's Station. 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: A lovely couple, well managed couple, if you will tuned 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: in from Thompson Station, Tennessee, Madison, Wisconsin, Van's Valley, Georgia, Jonesboro, Arkansas. 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Let's dive into the show very much A hurry up. 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: We're running on the show tonight. We had a question 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: about star ratings. Rarely do we lead the show off 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: with questions, but I want to show you a question 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: we got earlier today and then I want to respond accordingly. 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: So George Washington Tarvor hits us up and says, how 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: do people like you claim star rankings are the end 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: all be all, but former two stars and three stars 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: like brock Perty and Joe Burrow are in the NFL playoffs. Well, 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: you notice the wording there, the end all be all. 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: I will tell you something, George Washington Tarvor, I'm not 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: quite sure if we added all of our paychecks here 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: together how much it would equal, but we are willing 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: to do that. I didn't even clear this with Jesse 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: or Colin, but I have the freedom to speak for them. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: That's how laws work. So their paycheck and my paycheck, 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull it all together, and we will give 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: you our next paycheck. If you ever find evidence anywhere 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: of me saying star rankings are the end all be all, 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: that's not ever what I've said. What I have said 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: is they matter, because yes, talent matters, and trying to 51 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: evaluate that talent, trying to properly rate that talent is 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: not the easiest practice in the world, which I think 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: is common sense, but it's not common sense. So let 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: me tell you we're in that weird area right now. 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: It happens every NFL playoff season where somebody that lacks 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: the imagination to create their own content goes out there 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: and they look at all the players in the playoffs, 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: and then they go back to high school, and they 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: aggregate their star rankings out of high school, and then 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: of course they filter out the ones that were highly 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: rated and they show you the ones that weren't as 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: highly rated, and they use that as evidence that the 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: recruiting industry is a sham. Star ratings, it's just a crapshoot. 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. So I'm not going to go down 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the road of telling you how I interpret star ratings. 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I will, It's not a long road. It's just basically 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: a here and now snapshot of a player using all 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: of the available criteria, metrics, etc. There's no way to 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: know what the psyche valwel on that player would be. 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: There's no way to know how he's going to acclimate 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: to college life. There's no way to know if he 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have a six and a half inch growth spurt 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: coming as sophomore year. You just have the information at hand, 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: and you try to put as good a rating on 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: again as possible. I'm gonna break some news to you. 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Not all kids have physically plateaued when they're eleventh and 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: twelfth graders. The JJ Watt protocol in other words, but 78 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: anyway properly interpreting the value of star ratings has always 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: required two things that are preciously lacking this time of year, 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and that is nuanced and context. The thing about nuance 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: and context is those don't really fit on those gotcha 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: graphics that a lot of people like to put out 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: there to try and prove to you they don't. Star 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: rankings don't mean anything. Well they do, they just don't 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: mean everything, and they're not complete and they're not scientific. 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: So I found it interesting if you looked at the 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: tweet we just got that Joe Burrow was mentioned. I 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: could pick any of a number of these guys. But 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: let me, just for the sake of argument and time tonight, 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: let me take Joe Burrow, very very classic case study here. 91 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. The allegation, to be clear, 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: is since Joe Burrow is destroying it in the NFL 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: and he was only rated a four star. By the way, 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: what wasn't a three star? He was only rated a 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: four star, the recruiting industry whift right, and everyone can 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: see that the recruiting industry wift. Well, I want to 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: take you through an exercise right quick. Everyone is free 98 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: to participate. I want to use Joe Burrow. Let's use 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow as the example. Okay, he was a four 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: star coming out of high school. That's in the class 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of twenty fifteen. I'm not even gonna make you do 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: what the folks in the recruiting industry had to do, 103 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: and that was put a star rating in a grade 104 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: on him coming out of high school. I'm going to 105 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: give you the benefit of three more years so you 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: don't have to do what the Wilfongs of the world 107 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: had to do. You can wait through twenty fifteen and 108 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: sixteen and seventeen, and you can even watch his full 109 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season, and then I want you to grade him. 110 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: So let's recap what happened there. He went to Ohio State, 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: he transferre from Ohio State to LSU, and now he's 112 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: got a full year starting under his belt at LSU, 113 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: where he was a fifty seven percent completion percentage. Guy, 114 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I think sixteen to five touchdown to I int in 115 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, got shut out by Bama. They didn't score 116 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: a point against Bama that year. The current situation is, 117 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: it's the end of the twenty eighteen college football season. 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I want you at that point to star rate Joe Burrow. 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I want any NFLGM out there at that point to 120 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: star rate Joe Burrow. I dare you to tell me 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: you're putting anything more than a four star rating on 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: him after three additional years of inventory at your disposal 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: of a resume, at your disposal. Then twenty nineteen happened, Well, 124 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: any idiot could reassign a star rating. Then you don't 125 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: get to do that in the recruiting world. You got 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to put it on him when they're coming out of 127 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: high school. So they put four stars on him coming 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: out of high school, and then the following three years happened, 129 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: and even after the twenty eighteen season, no one was 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: looking at that rating and saying, wow, that was really 131 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: out of whack. If anything, some of you who send 132 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: me those tweets may bump him down to a three 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: star after seeing the twenty eighteen season, seeing him get 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: shut out against Alabama. Not even me in a sixty 135 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: percent completion percentage. Guy. The point is, it's very difficult. 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: It's not the easiest thing in the world, especially at 137 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Not the easiest thing in the world 138 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: to project. Because number one, we know something happened between 139 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. His name's Joe Brady and 140 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of other talent around him. Him being Joe 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Burrow was all of a sudden utilized properly, and the 142 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: rains were handed over to a very competent offensive mind 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: that came to Baton Rouge by way of New Orleans, 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: and they blew up college football in twenty nineteen. I 145 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: look at Hendon Hooker this year and what he did 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: under Josh Hypel, same guy, just not at Virginia Tech anymore. 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Is at Tennessee You have no clue any given year 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: how many guys are completely is it foundering or floundering 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: drowning at another program that just need a change of 150 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: scenery or just need new personnel in the coaches box. 151 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: It's very hard to know how a guy's going to 152 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: be handled. When you're grading him in high school, you 153 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know any of that. Sometimes even into their college 154 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: career you don't. But I don't even necessarily count on 155 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: a normal fan who has a nine to five job, 156 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and you're not in the business of talent evaluation. You 157 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: may look at someone who is a talent evaluator in 158 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: the recruiting industry and say, well, I shouldn't be as 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: good as you. You should have the benefit of the 160 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: doubt that you have to prove to me because you 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: guys claim to be professionals. Okay, Okay, I think I 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: made my point. But let's just play Devil's advocate here 163 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: and let's say you're right about that. I want to 164 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: talk to another group of folks for a second, because 165 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: those are NFL general managers that I want to talk to. 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk to NFL scouts. NFL scouts general managers. 167 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: They get the entire college football resume on a guy's reel. 168 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Not to mention, they get full medical on a guy, 169 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: they get a full psychological background, they get to interview him. 170 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: They do investigative work, knowing every nook and cranny of 171 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: their lives, and they still whiff all the time. So 172 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: imagine how hard it is to properly grade a guy 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: coming out of eleventh grade in twelfth grade, but the 174 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: dude's four or five years down the road who run 175 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: NFL franchises still with sometimes you know what else they do, 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: they hit a lot of times, just like in the 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: recruiting industry. Strangely, a lot of these kids with five 178 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: stars next to their name. They also have offers from 179 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State, in Alabama and Clemson, and some of them 180 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: wash out for reasons not even pertaining to football. My 181 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: point is, you can every now and then anecdotally pick 182 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: out these examples and I can throw like fifteen more 183 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: of them back in your face. It's not an exact science, 184 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: is all I'm trying to say. So in lieu of 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: being any more harsh and for the sake of timing, 186 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on. But I knew that was coming. 187 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: We were waiting for it, and we got a couple 188 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: of those tweets this morning. Academy Sports and Outdoors. Lets 189 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: us do this for free. I don't know how else 190 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: to lead it off. 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Sometimes 208 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: you get seasonal partnerships with brands, but then they get 209 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: to maybe the end of a football season, they say, 210 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: we'll see your next football season. Not Academy. Not Academy. 211 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: We believe in the no off season approach. They believe 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: in the no off He's an approach. And if you're 213 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: new here and wonder why we whisper the word offseason, 214 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: it's because we don't take one. We do this show 215 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: all year round, and we can do it and you 216 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: never have to pay for it because of Academy. So 217 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. Let's move on. Job 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: approvals got fresh numbers in here, fresh intel and research. 219 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: We got four new names on the head coaching radar tonight, 220 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: and we've got some job approval numbers. Now for one 221 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: of these guys, he's not going to lead it off, 222 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: But for one of these guys, I really think we 223 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: need to reiterate heavily. These are up to the minute. 224 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: This is not as of the end of the season. 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: It's not as of a week and a half ago. 226 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: So with one of these guys, a lot has changed 227 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: in the past week that may have spiked his approval 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: rating just a little bit. I guess you could say 229 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: that about the first guy too, So I should have 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: just let off with that. Jim Harbaugh job approval has 231 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: got to be an a what's the expectation level at Michigan? 232 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: That's the first thing Producer Jesse said when we were 233 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: doing some research on this segment today, said, I guess 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself, don't you what's the expectation 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: level at Michigan? And for a long time, I don't 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: know about internally, but nationwide, what had you come to 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: expect from Michigan? Kind of a stepchild reputation up there, 238 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: especially when it came to the Ohio state rivalry. They 239 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,239 Speaker 1: were having a difficult time dealing with Michigan State, and certainly, 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: certainly you were not confusing them within the college football 241 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: playoff picture. Their name was not in your mouth when 242 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: you were talking about those sorts of things. And now 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got back to back wins 244 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: over Ohio State, you got back to back Bigton championships, 245 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: you got back to back playoff appearances, good portal hauls. 246 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: They are hitting in recruiting and development. Now they're not 247 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: recruiting top five, but they are hitting in their EVWS 248 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: and they're hitting in development. I think most importantly out 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: of all this, and a contributing factor for all this 250 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: has been the program's attitude has totally shifted. Like Michigan 251 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: when I watch them now, number one, they're expected to win. 252 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Number two, they expect to win, and for two years 253 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: in a row. Now, I've stood on the sideline at 254 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: the Michigan Ohio State game and I've watched them be 255 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: the aggressor. And they had played that game on their 256 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: heels so many consecutive years, and Ohio State had taken 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: that thing by the throat so many consecutive years that 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: it was sort of jarring to see it last year 259 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: to the point and search your heart. You know this 260 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: to be true. Where some of you thought maybe that 261 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: was just an aberration. Maybe I don't know, maybe there 262 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: was this just perfect combination and confluence of events that 263 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: day in ann Arbor. But all will be rectified when 264 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: they have to go to Columbus. They went to Columbus 265 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: and did the same thing, did the same thing. And 266 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: so now how do I give Jim Harbou anything lower 267 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: than an A. There are two things that if you 268 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: wanted to, you want to just flip the coin and 269 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: play the other side for the sake of fun, you 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: could say. And that is one maybe people don't approve 271 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: of his continuous NFL flirtation. And the other is, while 272 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: recruiting is good, we haven't seen the big spike that 273 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: you would expect to see coming off a playoff trip 274 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: last year, and now they've got another one. And recruiting's 275 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: not bad. It's not bad. And when you're hitting on 276 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: all your evals like they are, you don't necessarily have 277 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,359 Speaker 1: to recruit in the top five. But this is nitpicking. 278 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: This is not even my personal feel. This is just 279 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: if you were to nitpick this and say, oh, it 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be an A it should be a B plus. 281 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I guess that's what you would have to say. Outside 282 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: of that, they are rolling right now. So I'm giving 283 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh an a next up more good news Brian 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Kelly at LSU. Brian Kelly is an a man as well, 285 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and I've had several recollections recently of the fact that 286 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: there were seventh place predictions for LSU in the SEC 287 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: West in the preseason. I don't think that was the 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: official media stance at media days or anything like that, 289 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: but you guys have taken it upon yourselves to remind me. 290 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: In my mentions, there were a lot of folks who 291 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: were saying sixth at best, maybe even last, because the 292 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: SEC West was going to be such a meat grinder, 293 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: which I don't know. I mean, you could make the 294 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: argument it kind of was. I could also make the 295 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: argument that was down a little bit this year, it 296 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: wasn't down enough for a bad team to win it, though. 297 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: LSU had to be a good team, and they won 298 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: the West in year one. They are a team that 299 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: finished twelfth in recruiting the pass cycle, which is not 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot of Brian Kelly. They got Harold Perkins 301 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: to come in there at the last minute. And don't 302 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: overlook that that guy overturned a couple of games for 303 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: them this year and now they're currently sitting sixth in 304 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: this recruiting cycle. You know, that's that thing Brian Kelly 305 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: can't do, by the way, the whole recruiting thing, that's 306 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: what he can't do. He can't acclimate the LSU, he 307 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: doesn't fit the culture, and he can't recruit in the 308 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: South for three so far, probably can't beat Alabama either, 309 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: right oh for four. So he's doing all that year one. 310 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like they haven't even got their feet 311 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: under him, and they look really good. You would definitely 312 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: call them ahead of schedule number one, by the way, 313 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: the number one portal class in the country right now, 314 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: after being number three a cycle ago. Everything's pointing up. 315 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Every single thing's pointing up. Walker Howard left there recently. 316 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: In years past, a quarterback prospect of that caliber leaving 317 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: would make you say, oh, that's bad, bad news for LSU. 318 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: He left because two other good ones are there. So 319 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what more I could possibly be wanting 320 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: from Brian Kelly this early in his tenure. I'm giving 321 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: him an a uh man, maybe we should have mixed 322 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: some more controversial names in here, because the next guy's 323 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: getting an A minus and that is a long way 324 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: away from Baton Rouge Louisiana. What about Dan Lanning at Oregon. 325 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: We go up to Eugene, Oregon, Dan Lanning, I'm giving 326 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: him an A minus. Remember the gut punch that was 327 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Mario Christobaul leaving Oregon. I think sometimes we tend to 328 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: forget how we felt at the time something happened. This 329 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: sport moves quick, and this is not the NFL. This 330 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: is college football. So we've got dozens and dozens more 331 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: names of head coaches and hundreds of assistant coaches and 332 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: bunch of players and programs, and it's just like drinking 333 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: from a fire hose to the point where when Christobaul 334 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: left there at the time people looked and it was 335 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: a disaster for Oregon. And then they kept right on 336 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: keeping on because they brought the youngest head coach in 337 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: FBS INN at the time and Dan Lanning from Georgia, 338 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: never been a head coach a day in his life, 339 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: first time at this level period, and what do they do? Well? 340 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: They had a really good year. Remember we're basing this 341 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: off a foundation of what the expectation level is. So 342 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you the bad part first, that Georgia game 343 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: in Week one. Hey, they didn't get blown out as 344 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: bad as the National Championship participant TCU Hornfrogs did. I 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: guess we have to add that caveat in there now. 346 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: But the Georgia game, notwithstanding, they lost a couple of 347 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: close games to Washington and Oregon State. You're never getting 348 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: an A plus job approval rating at Oregon if you're 349 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: losing those games. So if we're gonna if we're gonna 350 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: chip away a little bit at the Veneer. Okay, there's that, 351 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: But what was the biggest fear? The biggest fear. The 352 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: biggest fear when Mario Christaball left Oregon had nothing to 353 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: do with Oregon State or Washington. It wasn't even on 354 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the field. Necessarily. People were terrified recruiting was about to 355 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: drop off because Mario Christaball had totally elevated the recruiting 356 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: operation there and it hasn't fallen off. So the biggest 357 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: fear has not been realized. That is subsided, and they're 358 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: right now recruiting very well. And when you combine what 359 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: they're doing in recruiting. With what they're doing in the 360 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: transfer portal, talent acquisition is not an issue. It's not 361 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: a worry for them. And so in lieu of that man, 362 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: they kept bo Nicks there. They had as good a 363 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: quarterback play last year as you've seen from them in 364 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: several years. The losses they did have were very close. 365 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Knicks was a little bit banged up. Frankly, to me, 366 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: one of the most impressive games they had this year 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: was the Utah game where they ended up winning a 368 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: close game and we're going in that week thinking Bonnix 369 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: may not even play. I mean, they had a lot 370 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: of guys banged up. My point there is you don't 371 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: always have to win the conference championship, especially in year 372 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: one of a head coach, to get an A minus 373 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: or an A plus grade relative to expectation one year 374 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: into the Dan lanningtenure. I think they've exceeded it, and 375 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: so I'm giving them an a minus. Now here's the 376 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: most interesting name. This is the one I was talking 377 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: about when we came into the segment a few minutes ago. 378 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: What kind of job approval rating would you give Dabo 379 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Sweney at Clemson, And as I am about to give 380 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: you my grade. When we talk about what the expectation 381 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: level is at a program, have we redefined the expectation 382 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: at Clemson? So, for example, since Dabo's been there a 383 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: long time, you could easily compare him to Saban when 384 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Saban got to Alabama. If you complained in twenty ten 385 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: cause Bama lost three games, it would have been very 386 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: easy to say, my own, my, how quickly we forget 387 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: what it was like before he got here, cause saving 388 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: had only been there like three years at that point, 389 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: or four hiccup, four years, whatever it is. But if 390 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: you were to say that today, people who were fifteen 391 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: years old weren't even alive to remember the whole times 392 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: in the past that you're referring to. And so my 393 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: point is at Alabama, the expectation levels long since been redefined, 394 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: I would argue, at Clemson, maybe the expectation level has 395 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: long since been redefined to the point where it's not 396 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: out of the realm of believability for people to complain 397 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: when they're only winning ten games. That's the new Clemson, 398 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: that's the new standard there. I know it's aggravating for 399 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Dabos twenty because he remembers those old days. 400 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: For example, listen to this. These are wild stats, by 401 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: the way, Dabos twenty. You want to you want to 402 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: know how much he elevated this program. They've won double 403 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: digit games every year since twenty eleven, every single one 404 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: of them. Before twenty eleven. The last time they had 405 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: a double digit win season was nineteen ninety. He redefined 406 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: Clemson football. You just totally redefined for an entire generation 407 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: what the standard of Clemson football is. With that being 408 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 1: the backdrop, I think it's an A minus. I think 409 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: it's an a minus because you can't deny that there 410 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: has been underachievement relative to their standard on the field 411 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: the past two years. Not cataclysmic underachievement, just being off 412 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: pace a little bit. They haven't slowed down to zero 413 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: miles per hour. They just slowed down a little bit. 414 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: A little bit of aeric came out of the front 415 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: right tire. Now, the reason why I said what I 416 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: said a few minutes ago about it being interesting we're 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: timing this now says I think the job approval numbers, 418 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: if we were to just take a straw poll of 419 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: all Clemson fans, has gone up over the past week 420 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: because Dablos Winny made the biggest move in the coaching 421 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: cycle at the assistant level at least, and that was 422 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: going in getting Garrett Riley from TCU. That's not a 423 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: small thing at all. In fact, it's a very very 424 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: big thing. Immunity. It also signifies that you've got a 425 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: head coach there who, let's just call it like we 426 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: see it, has a history of being a little bit stubborn, 427 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: has a history of being a little bit set in 428 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: his ways, and as you could see by his resume, 429 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: those are good ways to be set in most of 430 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 1: the time. He admitted a mistake, like I said at 431 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: the time, never gave you the satisfaction of admitting it 432 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to your face, never set it in a press conference, 433 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: nothing like that. But he did admit it. The way 434 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: he admitted it was he made a move, a very 435 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: tough move by firing a guy cares a lot about 436 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: and elevated and sort of took pride in developing and 437 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: brings in a guy from TCU, not of the Clemson family, 438 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: and so, man, that's crazy. Before twenty eleven, their last 439 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: double digit win season was nineteen ninety and now they've 440 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: won double ditches every year since twenty eleven, So I'm 441 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: going to give an A minus to Dabos twenty. Now. 442 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: We just did Harbaugh, Kelly, Landing and twenty. I never 443 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: went below an A minus for any of them. I 444 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: will be I will be hawking the comments section because 445 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I know you guys, this has been a very very 446 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: spirited debate we've had with the job approval numbers. I 447 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: will be very interested who you think should have been 448 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: at the B level or below And knowing you like 449 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I do, someone's gonna drop a random C plus on me, 450 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have a bullet point list paragraphs deep 451 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: of reasons why. And it's an opinion based thing, of course, 452 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: so I'll be interested to hear your opinion. They're watching 453 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: us in Eugene, Oregon, Denton, Texas, Asheville, North Carolina. We 454 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys being tuned in halftime heat rolls on. 455 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Let's continue, Colin, do we have a question about Dion 456 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: or was I just gonna tell you? Yeah, we do 457 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: have a question. Okay, in reality, we got like hundreds 458 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: of them, so we just found one that best represents you. 459 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: Rock Hill, South Carolina checking in here, Alan asked why 460 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: spend so much time talking Dion when Colorado won't even 461 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: make a bowl game? Now I remember there it is 462 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: now now I remember Alan. This is gonna sound like 463 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: I'm trying to ragdall you, and I'm not trying to 464 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: do that. I appreciate you watching more than you could 465 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: possibly know. However, we can be friends and disagree, right, 466 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: so just pretend like we're at Clearview Barbecue down in Columbus, Georgia, 467 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: and you and I are fighting over a couple of 468 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: chip sandwiches at lunch. I have no clue where this 469 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: attitude could possibly come from. Colorado won't make a bowl 470 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: game has quickly become the tiredest, lamest college football insult 471 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: there is. I want you to imagine for just second, Okay, 472 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: imagine taking over a one and eleven team and they 473 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: haven't won over five games but once since they joined 474 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve haven't had more than a five win 475 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: season but once in over a decade, maybe the worst 476 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: roster in all of Power five. And imagine going four 477 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: and eight with that team and having a group of 478 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: folks led by Alan saying told you, you told me nothing. 479 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: It's like a guy getting his pilot's license and flying 480 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: successfully the first time, and you said, well, buzz All, 481 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Drew Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, what did you do? 482 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: Diaga go four and eight, He go five and seven 483 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: this year, and somebody out there is gonna say I 484 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: knew he was overrated. This is a badly broken scale, people, 485 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: a terminally flawed scale. If you think bowl eligibility in 486 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: year one is the proper metric with which to gauge 487 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: whether success and improvement has happened at Colorado. I had 488 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Jesse go compile me. By the way, and I think 489 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: you see it on the screen here. I had Jesse 490 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: compile me. I said, forget about the losses, they're too 491 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: many to count. I just want you to tell me 492 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: how many wins per year they've had since they joined 493 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve conference. It goes a little something like this, 494 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: five three one four two four ten five five five 495 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: four four one, So as you can see, friends, even 496 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: in the most normal of seasons, Colorado making a bowl 497 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: would be extreme. It's not an extreme prediction. It's the 498 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: lamest prediction in the world. It's the biggest gulp of 499 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: hater aid you could possibly take against someone to try 500 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and manufacture them to be set up for failure by saying, well, 501 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: if he's really that good, he'll prove it by making 502 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: a bowl game. See me in twenty twenty four. Don't 503 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: see me in twenty twenty three about that. Even with 504 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, there's only so much this guy can do. 505 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: Did you hear me when I said one and eleven? 506 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: They won one game and a lot of those guys 507 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: have been run out of town. So if you want 508 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: to also have fun, go look at the list of 509 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: schools that the kids who have transferred out of Colorado 510 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: have gone to. One of them went to Colgate. I mean, 511 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Deon's got folks transferred to Toothpaste. That's a stage below Rice. 512 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: God bless you Colgate. So why do I talk Deon Sanders? 513 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: That was the question there. Well, I'll tell you why 514 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I talk Deon Sanders. Number one, He's a disruptor. You 515 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: don't get those very often. I mean that in the 516 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: most respectful of terms. He's a disruptor, meaning you've got 517 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: a natural set of order and a natural way things 518 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: are flowing. When the disruptor comes, everything gets shaken up. 519 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: Here's what a disruptor looks like. For example, we sat 520 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: in this studio about seventy two hours ago and told you, 521 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: Cormoni McLain just committed to Colorado, you could have a 522 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: forklift distributing as much cash as you ever hoped to distribute. 523 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: And there's not another head coach on this planet that 524 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: would have ever been able to land Cormoni McLain in Boulder, Colorado, 525 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: but Dion Sanders. Saban wouldn't have done it, Kirby Smart 526 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it. Nobody would have been able to 527 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: do it, but Dion Sanders. And the reason is simple. 528 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: He has got a set of characteristics that no one 529 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: else has. He's a disruptor. And I'm running a show 530 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: which at its core is entertainment based, by the way, 531 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: So that's one reason I would talk about Dion Sanders. 532 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: The other is, as you saw his first day on 533 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: the job out in Boulder, he's brutally honest and doesn't 534 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: really care about you seeing it. You know, some of 535 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: you accurately he said when we showed that video of 536 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: him addressing the team for the first time. Well, the 537 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: only difference in Dion's saying that to those kids and 538 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: every other head coach that takes over is every other 539 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: head coach didn't record it. Yep, what's your point? Cause 540 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: my point is I love that he didn't hide from it. 541 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: Most head coaches hired from that. Most head coaches are 542 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: afraid of it making them look bad. You walked in 543 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: there and told college athletes they probably need to look 544 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: elsewhere because you don't have much use for him. Well, hey, 545 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: you know what else Deon Sanders has going for him 546 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: that makes me not care less about that in terms 547 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: of hurt feelings is the semi professionalization of college athletics. 548 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: You inserted the transfer portal, you inserted it in il, 549 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: you inserted a profit based model for lack of a 550 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: better term, for college athletes. And I sat here and said, 551 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: if that's the way you want to guys, you guys 552 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: want to take it, take it that way, but you 553 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: can't get the benefits of being an adult and avoid 554 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: being treated like an adult. And so Dion walked in 555 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: and treated him like an adult and said, camera crew, 556 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: follow me, record every bit of this. I don't care. 557 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: So I appreciate that, Like, that's another reason you're asking 558 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: me why I talk about Deon Sanders. That's another reason 559 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to work another day in his life 560 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to, and yet he's ultra passionate 561 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: about this. You know, he's not, in other words, doing 562 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: this to garner attention for a bigger project. He's not 563 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: looking to siphon resources and funding, and he's not looking 564 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: to crowd source using the University of Colorado as a platform. 565 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: He may be looking to advance his career long term. 566 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: He may not see himself coaching at the University of 567 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Colorado for twenty years, but college football and elevating young 568 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: men I believe is absolutely at the forefront of what 569 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: he's doing. I believe he's totally genuine when he says that, 570 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: and so I appreciate that. That's another reason I talk 571 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: about him. Here's another very important aspect when it comes 572 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to our world. He understands entertainment, which I know makes 573 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: some of you roll your eyes. Some of you are 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: were purest traditionalists, nothing wrong with this whatsoever. Some of 575 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: you grew up on the sport and you just want 576 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: it for football. You don't care about storylines, you don't 577 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: care about the trappings, and you don't care about the 578 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: ornaments on the tree. You just want the tree, and 579 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: that is absolutely aoka. However, I did a segment about 580 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: a month ago, and I'll kind of regurgitate what I 581 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: said then. Now, this is not the football industry. This 582 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: is the entertainment industry. They don't build one hundred thousand 583 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: seats around your football fields because everyone loves the intricacies 584 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: and strict x's and o's and execution of the game. 585 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: That's what it's built on. But this is entertainment. You 586 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: get paid eight million dollars a year to be the 587 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: head coach at fill in the blank university because you 588 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: were at the core of it. All are in the 589 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: entertainment business. If it were about purely athletics and competition, 590 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't make any more money or play in any 591 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: bigger a venue than your local baseball coaches do or 592 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: your lacrosse coaches do, because those are too. Those are 593 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: played at a high level too. It takes a ton 594 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: of time and energy to be invested to be good 595 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: in those two Football's entertainment. Deon Sanders gets it now. 596 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: At the core of what he does, he still wakes 597 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: up at whatever time he wakes up every morning to 598 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: get better in the arena of football, but also understands 599 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: you package that in an entertainment based model, and that's 600 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: why you know about everything they do. You could be 601 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: living in bangor Maine if you're a college football fan 602 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: or even have passing interest in it. That means you're 603 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: plugged into the right social channels, you're watching the right broadcast. 604 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders is going to be present there because of 605 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: the last reason. He's got a combination that only a 606 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: few people have, and that is this combination of like 607 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: magnetism and skill and in his case, achievement, but charisma, 608 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: just a raw interest factor that makes you a needle mover. 609 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: And there just aren't many of those people needle movers, 610 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: meaning they wake up in the morning and decide where 611 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: they're going to go eat. And it's a story I 612 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: can't necessarily explain to you why that is. Why do 613 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: people care about what certain people do in every aspect 614 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of their personal and private lives. I don't know that personally. 615 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: I've never actually been someone who that appeals to Dion 616 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: happens to appeal to me because he's in the world 617 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: of college football where I hang out. But it doesn't 618 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: matter whether I understand it, It doesn't matter why it is. 619 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: It just matters that it is and he's one of 620 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: those people. So you ask me why I talk about 621 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, those are reasons why I talk about him. 622 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: And if I didn't really want to go through that 623 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: whole spiel, I could have just told you the first 624 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: time we talked about him was one of the higher 625 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: traffic segments we've had all year, and then we did 626 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: it again to make sure we didn't just happen to 627 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: game the SEO and we didn't. You clicked on it again, 628 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: So these things have been validated by you, not by me. 629 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I could just yell this into the ABYSS and it 630 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. My follow up as we move on here 631 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: would be this. You know you asked me a question. 632 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: How about I return it with a question, which is 633 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: very unprofessional. Why wouldn't I talk about him? It's January? 634 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I talk about him? House? I gave you 635 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: five or six good reasons why why wouldn't I talk 636 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: about Dion Sanders? Moving on old predictions? We got five 637 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: of them here. You guys have been on a roll lately. 638 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: We issued the challenge in August bold prediction time, what 639 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: would you bet your money on for this upcoming season? 640 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: And I told you all the while be responsible because 641 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: we're going to revisit all these Well, here we go. 642 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: This one crashed and burned in a very ugly fashion. 643 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: And I put a nine on this one. So the 644 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: first one has to do with a sack combination for 645 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Dallas Turner. And Daniel said Will Dallas, 646 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: they're going to combine for thirty five sacks for Bama. Well, 647 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: let me spoil the ending for you. Bama as a 648 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: team had thirty eight sacks this year. They had fifty 649 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: seven in twenty twenty one. They led FBS in twenty 650 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: twenty one, so they were well off pace this year. 651 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Let me further spoil the anything for you. Virtually every 652 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: metric for Bama's defense was down this year. As for 653 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Dallas Turner, the prediction was thirty five. 654 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: They they put fourteen up. They didn't get halfway there. 655 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: They had twenty six last year, fourteen this past year. 656 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: So no, that one, much like every prediction for the 657 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: Alabama defense, woefully underachieved. I put a nine on that one, 658 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: and as it turns out, yes, it was a nine 659 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: on the boldness scale at the very least, maybe nine 660 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: and a half. Next up, this one should have been 661 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: higher than an eight. I don't know why I only 662 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: put an eight on this one. Michigan State wins the 663 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: Big Ten East and wins the Big Ten. Michigan State 664 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: finished five and seven this year. Michigan State was never 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: a threat in the East, they were never a threat 666 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, and they were three and six 667 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: in conference play. Now, that's part of the story. But 668 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: as we have come to call the Nebraska Protocol a 669 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: lot of protocols on the show tonight, what the Nebraska 670 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: protocol in college football is is, Yes, they went three 671 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: and six in conference, but maybe it's misleading because maybe 672 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: they weren't as bad as that sounds. Maybe they just 673 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: lost a bunch of close games. Paper pop. These are 674 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: the margins of defeat in conference losses for Michigan State 675 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: this year. They lost by twenty seven to Minnesota, fourteen 676 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: to Maryland, twenty nine to Ohio State, twenty two to Michigan, 677 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: eight to Indiana overtime, and nineteen to Penn State. Just 678 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: not close, just not a good football team, couldn't run 679 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: the ball to save their lives, and no did not, 680 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: as it turns out, win the Big Ten. They're in 681 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: East Lansing. Nor did this one come anywhere close. This 682 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: next one went pretty sideways too. I only put a six. 683 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: You know, this, to me is a failure on my part. 684 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: This prediction crashed and burned. True enough, but the fact 685 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: that I only called this a six means that I 686 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: failed as well. Unsaid in January, we will all look 687 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: back and think, how did Jimbo take so long to 688 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: pick a quarterback? This guy is amazing. The bold part 689 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: will be saying it no matter who wins the job. 690 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: So the prediction here is essentially it doesn't matter who 691 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback is for A and M, that quarterback will 692 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: be amazing. We had Haines King start at various points 693 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: this year. We had Max Johnson's start. We had Connor 694 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: Wigman start seven games this year, ANM's leading passer was 695 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: under two hundred yards eight games. They had less than 696 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: two passing touchdowns. Texas A and M passing this year 697 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: yards per game two nineteen, That is eighty fourth in FBS. 698 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: There were several adjectives that could be accurately used to 699 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: describe the A and M passing game this past year. 700 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know in good faith if we could 701 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: use amazing amazing Lee terrible, but not amazing. Not any 702 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: were close to amazing. Next up this one Whift. In fact, 703 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: we have not had one hit yet. Actually we're going 704 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: five for five on Missus tonight, very very negative tone 705 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: on the show. The prediction from Buckeye Nation was Ohio 706 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: State will have the Davy O'Brien Award winner, the Doak 707 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: Walker Award winner, and the Bolittank COF Award winner. So 708 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: they're just gonna sweep virtually all of the college football 709 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: offensive awards lists over three they didn't win a single one. Now, 710 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: I could tell you if you wanted to argue that 711 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior should have gotten the Blittant Cough, I'm 712 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: okay with that. I think Jalen Hyatt was really good too, 713 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: so I don't have an issue. But at least at 714 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: least Marvin Harrison Junior was in the conversation for the 715 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: Blittant Cough. C J. Stroud got beat out by Caleb 716 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Williams for the O'Brien. What else did we have had? 717 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: We had b Jon Walker win the Doke and that 718 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: one wasn't really close. We had Brock Bowers won the MACKI. 719 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: So not a single Ohio State player on that list. 720 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: There this one whift entirely. I put a nine on it. 721 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: This was lofty. It was understandably lofty even when the 722 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: prediction was made. And the last prediction here just to 723 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: complete the er. For five Missouri, we had a prediction, 724 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: very bold. One might I add that Missouri will win 725 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: eight games. Missouri went six and six. Now, in fairness, 726 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: we predicted five and seven, so at least that was better. 727 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: We're talking regular season. Of course, they lost the bowl 728 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: game too, I think so they went six and seven, 729 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: but six and six was the regular season result. Having 730 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: said that, unlike Michigan State, I can at least sit 731 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: here and tell you they almost beat Georgia. They led 732 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: Georgia by two possessions in the fourth quarter. They had 733 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: one of the grossest, most horrific losses in the history 734 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: of organized sports in the game at Auburn. You know 735 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: how rarely we say should have won a game, and 736 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe I won't say it there, but that's the game 737 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: I want to say. That's the game where the kid 738 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: had a game losing touchback. I think it's the way 739 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: it went, just trying to reach for the end zone. 740 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: So we had that happen. We had the Georgia next week. 741 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: By the way, the Georgia twenty six to twenty two loss, 742 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: they lost by a possession to Florida. Overall, they had 743 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: four sec losses by one possession. Not that that's any consolation, 744 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: but maybe it is just a little bit. Till Missouri 745 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: wins eight games that did not happen may not happen 746 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: this upcoming year. Drinkwitz has not been above that mark 747 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: yet in his career in Colombia. How do you think 748 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: halftime heat went, Jesse? I think it pretty successful. Make sure, 749 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're tuned in on the way out, 750 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: hit that thumbs up button for me and hit the 751 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: subscribe button for me. If you're around in the Twitter sphere, 752 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: you've seen a little back and forth between certain unmentionable 753 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: public personalities in the world of college football and myself today, 754 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: I was mine in my own business, and all of 755 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, as is usually the case, our show's name 756 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: found its way into other people's mouths, and you represented 757 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: the brand quite well today talking to you, not them, 758 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: so appreciate that. Keep fighting the good fight. We will 759 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: prevail in the end. For producer Jesse. For director colin. 760 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Will be back here same time Tuesday night. 761 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 1: From Toold and take care or in structor colins