1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are going to update 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: you with the latest news ahead of the huge Ravens 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Steelers regular season finale for the AFC North title. We 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: went to John Harball's press conference on Monday, and there's 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: of course injury news to update you on, so we'll 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: run through all of that and Garrett, obviously it begins 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson missed last week with that back confusion 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: injury and his status is undetermined according to the head coach, 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: John Harball, but there is reason for optimism. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: The biggest thing is that there was significant improvement from 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: Lamar over the course of last week. At the beginning 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: of the week, and we talked about this after the game, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: he was in rough shape. He could hardly walk out 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: of the locker room at scene postgame. We talked with 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: him after the loss against the Patriots, was in a 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: lot of pain. And then over the course of that 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: entire week there was steady improvement, was what on Harbaugh said, 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: And you could just see that it was night and 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: day looking at him on the sidelines of that game 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: in Green Bay compared to where he was a week 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: ago after the game against the Patriots, so there was improvement. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: The other point that John Harbaugh made is that we'll 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: know a lot more on Wednesday. Wednesday is the Ravens 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: first practice of the week. As we know, Lamar has 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: missed a lot of practice signing over the past two months, 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: has not had a full week of practice since very 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: early in the season. 30 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: And so it wouldn't if he's out on Wednesday. 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that that necessarily precludes him from playing 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: on Sunday, but that's the first real indication of how 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: available he's going to be if he's able to be 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: on the practice field on Wednesday when the Ravens go 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: through their first full practice. 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Of the week. 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Yep, and John Harball made it very clear that if 38 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is able to play, he will be the 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Ravens starting quarterback. There's no wells you know, Snoop looked good. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, if Lamar is not exactly one hundred percent, 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, do you just play Snoop? Now? If Lamar 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Jackson is healthy enough to play in this game, he 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: will be the Ravens starter. Despite how well Tyler Huntley 44 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: has played this season, right. 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a bundantly clear. 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: He was asked that question point blank and he answered 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: it definitively. 48 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: No, it's it's Lamar Jackson. 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: If if you get the green light that he's able 50 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: to play, if the if the trainers the doctors give 51 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: the sign off and the green light that he's good 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: to go, then he's back in the lineup as you'd 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: expect and so. 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Which I absolutely agree. Course that's one thousand percent how 55 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: it should be. Yeah, I mean, Lamar Jackson's Lamar Jackson. 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: And it's a tip of the cap to Snoop. He's 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: been great, you know, but if your star quarterback, franchise quarterback, 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: has a chance to play in a must win basically 59 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: playoff game, he plays. 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: And you know if in the game, whatever something, his 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: back starts locking up again and you can't move, of course, 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: then you turn to Snoop. Right, But if Lamar Jackson 64 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: can play the game, and I don't even care, I 65 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: don't care, Like, yeah, this season has been more of 66 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: a stroke for Lamar than you know, last year, in 67 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: the year before, right, his MVP seasons and but Lamar Jackson, 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: and I thought also before he suffered the confusion. He 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: was playing really well, like he was looking more like 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: his MVP self. Yeah, and so if he's kind of 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: back to that mode too, you know, that's gravy. But 72 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: but you play Lamar Jackson and you don't think twice 73 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: about that. 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that if he's able to go, And 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: Stupe made the point actually after the game on Saturday, 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: he said that Lamar was doing everything he could to 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: get back and play, and so he was. He was 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: working at it, and John Harball indicated on Monday that 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: Lamar was, you know, he was in the middle building 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: on Monday morning working with the trainers and getting treatment, 81 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: trying to get himself ready to play. So it's been 82 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: kind of a steady diet of treatment for Lamar over 83 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: the last week plus since that he's suffered that injury, 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: trying to get that back right so that he can 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: get back out there and play. And fingers crossed that 86 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: it's this week, but if it's not, then it would 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: be Snoop again, of course. And Snoop started two games 88 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: for the Ravens this year and he's two and oho 89 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: and they're both huge wins, obviously tough opponents. One was 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: at home against the Bears, and then the other was 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: Saturday night. So two playoff teams, two NFC North playoff 92 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: teams that the Ravens have beaten with Snoop at the helm. 93 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: So if Lamar isn't able to get back, then you 94 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: still have confidence in Snoop and his ability to operate 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: this offense at an efficient level based on what we've 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: seen from him this year. 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, if this was the NFC North opponent, you 98 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: really really good about it, exactly, but you know, all 99 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: jokes aside. I think, yes, you have confidence if you 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: need to go to Snoop. Clearly he's proven that. Like 101 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: his teammates coaches, I think everybody feels confident in the 102 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: job that Snoop can do. I think that some of 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: it also is like with Snoop on the field, the 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: game plan was very specific against the Green Bay. We're 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: going to feed Derrick Henry and then feed him some more. Right, 106 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna have have all three courses here, and with 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Lamar back on the field, I think that changes things 108 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what I mean? Like you, you, 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I think do have more willingness to take shots and 110 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: be a little bit more aggressive in the passing game. 111 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: So the question I think that people are saying is 112 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: like the Snoop playing forced the Ravens into the game 113 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: plan that fans want, which is just keep beating Derrick Henry. Right, 114 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: you can also run that game plan with Lamar Jackson 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: and have the upside of what he brings, you know, 116 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: what he brings to the table and the more explosive 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: plays and the being able to extend plays more and 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: make these crazy throws, and what he does with as 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: a runner, you know, I mean, Lamar Jackson is a 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: souped up version, right, look Snoop kind of plays the 121 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: game in a similar way. But like, let's not fool 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: ourselves into thinking you're not gonna you're you're gonna drive 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: your Ferrari, you know what I mean? And and and 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: and game play. The game plan doesn't have to right, Like, 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: you can still be you can still feed Derek Henry 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: a lot, even if Lamar's on the field. 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I know we're going to get 128 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: into some of the specifics of the game plan, kind 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: of the recipe for this offense, the identity over the 130 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: course of this conversation. 131 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: But I think that. 132 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: You, whoever is a quarterback, I don't think that you 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: necessarily need to get away from what's working. If running 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: the big Fella is working as it did against Green Bay, 135 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 3: I think you can expect to see a steady diet 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: of number twenty two running up and down the field. 137 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: And that's that's regardless of who's that quarterback for the Ravens. 138 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: So again, I think that it all just comes down 139 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: to the hell factor, Like if your franchise quarterback is 140 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: good to go, he's gonna play, and the Ravens are 141 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: hoping that that's the case. 142 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Lamar is hoping that's the case. 143 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: And the Ravens again John Harbaugh indicated that he's optimistic 144 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: about that possibility and Wednesday will be a big indicator 145 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: of that, and we'll hear more from Harbwall on Wednesday. 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: So I think that this will crystallize over the course 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: of the week if it. Lamar is not a guy 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: that needs to practice to play necessarily. Keep in mind 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: last week he didn't practice at all. He was doubtful 150 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: going into the game. The Ravens did not rule him 151 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: out on Friday, so they were keeping or on Thursday, 152 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: they were keeping that door cracked open just in case 153 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: he was able to get himself back and ready to play. 154 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: So you don't have to practice to play if you're Lamar, 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: but of course you want to. The Ravens would want 156 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: to see him on the practice field just to make 157 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: sure that he can move well and operate efficiently and 158 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: that the back doesn't have any other flare ups or 159 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: anything like that. 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh, and be familiar with the game plan so that the. 161 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Normal practice stuff as well. 162 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the physical and the mental, uh, just elements 163 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: of that. So again, I think that that's going to 164 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: be the top storyline from the Ravens practice. And look 165 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: on the other side of the side of things, the 166 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: Steelers have some big injury questions as well. The big 167 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: question for them is TJ. 168 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Watt. 169 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: He's been sidelined for a few games now after getting 170 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: having a punctured lawn long and kind of a crazy 171 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: scenario for him. Mike Tomlin earlier on Tuesday did indicate 172 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: that there is a possibility of him playing in this game, 173 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: said that he's more optimistic this week than he was 174 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: previously compared to last week. 175 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: About j J. 176 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Waj Watt's previous yeah, previous statements was that he had 177 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: to have a full week of full practice in order 178 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: to play now that you're in a do or die game. 179 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: You know what, may we'll walk that back, you know, 180 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: get some limited practice. As long as he's out there 181 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: on the field he feels ready to go, he's going 182 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: to play well. 183 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Tom Thomas quote yeah. 184 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: Tom Win's quote on it was, will work him up 185 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: throughout the course of this week and let the amount 186 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: of participation and the quality of the participation be our 187 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: guide in terms of whether or not he's a participant 188 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: in the game. But certainly I'm more optimistic this week 189 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: than I have been in previous weeks as I stand 190 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: here today. The other thing that he did mention is 191 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: that he's certainly open to the possibility of kind of 192 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 3: a package for t J. 193 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: Watt. 194 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't play his normal snap count, but he's 195 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: in there on third down situations and is a situational 196 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: pass rusher and all that. 197 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: So I know you you felt like, come on, you 198 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: think he's playing, Come on, come on, man, he's playing. 199 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Playing the other you might play with one long. 200 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's not just TJ. Watt for them who's 201 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: dealing with injuries. Calvin Austin, their number two receiver, missed 202 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: the game against the Browns with a hamstring injury. 203 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: They also had cornerback Brandon Eckles out, cornerback Jason Pierre 205 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: out uh. 206 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: So, and tight en Darnold Washington, as we mentioned before, 207 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: suffered a broken arms. 208 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah he's out. Yeah, Darneld Washington's out. 209 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: He's done for the season. The other one is former 210 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: Raven Willie Harris and LA linebacker. 211 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 212 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: He's optimistic about him being able to come back and play. 213 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: So it seems like the Steelers from their side injury wise, 214 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: knowing the stakes of this game, think that they're going 215 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: to get some of the cavalry back on the field 216 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: with with t J. Watt leading the way and a 217 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: number of those guys missed a game against the Browns, 218 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: they expect, sounds like early in the week right now, 219 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: a good number of them to be able to come 220 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: back and play. Obviously understanding the stakes and the magnitude 221 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: of this game. 222 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Yep, and this is a massive game. And John Harball 223 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: spoke about that Monday afternoon, you know, kind of this 224 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: is this is how it should be. You know, the 225 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: final game of the entire NFL regular season will be 226 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Raven Steelers for the division and kind of the crazy 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: part being that this has never happened in Week eighteen, 228 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: at least in the final week of the regular season. 229 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: These two teams never squared off for the division title 230 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: on the line, And it was interesting to hear from 231 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: John Harball. You know he can kind of go into 232 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: put his fan hat on for a second and just say, yeah, 233 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: like this is pretty cool. This is how it should be. 234 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: And for the Ravens, you know, look, you have a 235 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: chance to win the division title in your opponents stadium, 236 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: and if they don't do it, like, if you don't, 237 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: if you lose to the Steelers twice in the same year, 238 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: then you didn't deserve to win the AFC North, you 239 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 240 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: Like you got your shot. 241 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, you come back from one to five, 242 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, you come back from the brink it looked like, 243 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: and get beat Green Bay, get the Browns win, Like 244 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: you got your shot, and hey, you didn't deserve it 245 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: if you don't go win this game. And so I 246 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: think this is this is kind of this is it's perfect. 247 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: It's perfect for the AFC North, it's perfect for the 248 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Raven Steelers rivalry, a storied rivalry, and this is gonna 249 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: be another major chapter that I think we're gonna remember 250 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. 251 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, in order for rivalries were great, you need to 252 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: play big games against the opponent and they don't get 253 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: too much bigger than this one right here. And it's 254 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: back to back seasons now that these two teams will 255 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: square off in an elimination game. 256 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: Last year was the wildcard round of the playoffs. Steelers 257 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: came to town. 258 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: The Ravens won that game convincingly, and now it's a 259 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: winner take all match. John Harball refers to it a 260 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: division championship game. It's a little like college. Like these colleges, uh, 261 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, you have the Big Ten championship, you have 262 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: the SEC championship. That's what this feels like. It's the 263 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 3: championship game before you get into the playoffs. And and 264 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: look like there's a lot of a lot of parallels 265 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: between these two teams that have existed for a long time. 266 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: There's parallels between the two head coaches. It'd be the 267 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: fortieth time, right that these two head coaches have faced 268 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: off to the two longest tenured coaches UH in the NFL. 269 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: And like they are part of they're they're kind of 270 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: the when you when you think back to Raven Steelers rivalries. 271 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: Back in the day, it was like ray Lewis and 272 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: Hines Ward. You know, those would be the guys on 273 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: the graphic, right, and like now it's it's Harbor and 274 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: Tollin to a certain extent, Like those those two kind 275 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: of define this rivalry. And you know, this is this 276 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: is a game where they take center states to a 277 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: certain extent, and those of course there's they've come under 278 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: fire at times this year, and like that's part of 279 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: the narrative going under the going into this game. And 280 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh was asked about that, and and and he 281 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: made the point that like, you know, this is what 282 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: you want. You want the pressure on you. It's a 283 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: privilege to feel that pressure and to have that opportunity 284 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: to go up in this type of a game. That's 285 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: what you want as a coach and as a player. 286 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: And their focus is on making sure that they can 287 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: go out there and play their best game. 288 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he didn't he didn't brush off the question. 289 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: He said, I don't really have much headspace for thinking 290 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: about that personally, about what this game means for my 291 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: future and for Mike Tomlin's feature. And you know, he's 292 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: not going to spend time thinking about that. He's locked 293 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: in on what it's going to take to beat the Steelers. 294 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: But he didn't eshoo the question either, you know, he said, 295 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I I understand it, and like, but hey, this is 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: what you sign up for, you know, like to be 297 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: under the under pressure. This is the NFL, and you 298 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: kind of you kind of welcome that. And and I 299 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: think that both these coaches quite frankly, have thrived under that, 300 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it wasn't long ago this season 301 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: that Steelers fans in Akracher Stadium were chanting fire Tomlin, 302 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and then the Steelers turned things around, 303 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, and put themselves in the division to win it. Now, 304 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: they fumbled that opportunity in Cleveland, But that is a 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: narrative that's kind of an undercurrent, you know, behind this game, 306 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating one for two guys who have 307 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: locked horns many many times over the years. 308 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: The other thing, too, that I think is interesting is 309 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: I think for both of these coaches, one of their 310 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: greatest strengths is their ability to kind of rally a 311 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: team when it's us against the world, back against the 312 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: wall type situations. John Harwall did that with this group 313 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: earlier this season when the Raves were one to five 314 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: and people were running him off for dead, and he 315 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: honestly did it again last week when the Ravens had 316 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: lost to the Patriots, and by the looks and sounds 317 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: of everything outside this building, you would have thought that 318 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: the season was over at that point, especially considering the 319 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: mar was hurt and you're going into Green Bay to 320 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: play a playoff team without your starting quarterback on a 321 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: cold December night, Like the odds seems stacked against the 322 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: Ravens going into that matchup, and there's all sorts of 323 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: there's articles being written, there's questions about job security, like 324 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: all that stuff was going on last week, and what 325 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: the Ravens were able to do in the midst of 326 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: all that to kind of rally together and play, certainly offensively, 327 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: one of their best games of the season. There's a 328 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: lot to be said for the job that John Harble 329 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: and the coaching staff did going into that game, and 330 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: so they do. He does a great job, I think, 331 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: when kind of a wartime general when things are rocky, 332 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: steadying the ship and keeping the team moving in the 333 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: right direction. And you could say a lot of that 334 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: same stuff for Tomlin when after that Bill's game where 335 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: there was a lot of criticism, they put together wins 336 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: and they came in here and they won and so 337 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: and they put themselves also in a situation to go 338 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: win the division, and so there's a lot of parallels. 339 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: But the interesting thing is now it's a winner take 340 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: all match, like one person leaves that game, one team 341 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: leaves that game as the division champs going into the postseason, 342 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: and the other one season is over. And so it 343 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: all seems to have kind of been building to this, 344 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: like lots of narratives building to this game, the season 345 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: long narrative, the matchups that they've had over the years, 346 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: it all kind of seems to be building to this, 347 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: and it's a perfect way to close out the NFL 348 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: regular season. 349 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers too. Aaron Rodgerson Rodgers' final game, right, you know, 350 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no shortage of storylines going into this game. 351 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: And when we come back from the break, we'll talk 352 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: more about what John Harball said about the defense in 353 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay that struggled that night, as well as whether 354 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: the plan will be to continue to feed the big Now. 355 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lage podcast. We're coming to you 356 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: from the Sekik Studio. We want to mention our partners 357 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: at DraftKings Sportsbook. They are an official sports betting partner 358 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: of the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings Sportsbook. The Crown is Yours. 359 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: So the defense was not up to par in that 360 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: game against the Packers, and it was a little bit 361 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: surprising considering the Packers were playing without their starting quarterback 362 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love and and Malik Willis, and I thought he 363 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: looked really good and he impressed me in that game. 364 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: But the Ravens gave up too many easy r and 365 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: points in that matchup. And so John Harball was asked 366 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: on Monday basically, when you when you look through the film, 367 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: like what happened? What was up with the defense in 368 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: that game? And he pointed to outside cornerback play and 369 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: not playing up to a quality enough level, having poor technique. 370 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: And Nate Wiggins is a guy like who did not 371 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: have a good night against the Packers. 372 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: He gave up a lot in that game. And it 373 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: was a. 374 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Little surprising because I'm a huge fan of ay Wigans. 375 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: I think he's he has the potential to be one 376 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: of the best corners in the league, and at moments 377 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: this year he's been locked down and has played at 378 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl level. But there were just too many 379 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: lapses in that game, and the Packers were able to 380 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: pick up chunk yards against him, and that cannot be 381 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: the level of play that they get from Wiggans moving forward. 382 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And it wasn't just Wiggins. You know, Marlon 383 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: Humphrey I thought had some tough moments. He came up 384 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: with a big interception off the tip Paul, but like 385 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: was not a great game for Marlin and it would 386 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: has been kind of a string here for him of 387 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: giving up too many big plays. The crazy part, it's 388 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: really been up and down for Marlin the past few weeks. 389 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: He's has an interception in three straight games. But you 390 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: go back even to that Steelers game, you know, too 391 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: many big plays against him, and the Patriots game, you know, 392 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: deep touchdown against Marlon. So the Ravens have kind of 393 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: been susceptible outside the numbers on these big plays. I mean, 394 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: you just can't give up thirty or five thirty plus 395 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: yard completions like the Ravens did in Green Bay. That's crazy. 396 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: And so the Ravens just need to do a better 397 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: job outside. Obviously, the absence of DK Metcalf as he 398 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: serves the second game of his two game suspension, dramatically 399 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: changes that, you know, and Calvin Austin, who's their number 400 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: two wide receiver. So you look at the Steels weapons, 401 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: it's really in the passing game. It's the tight ends, 402 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Pat Firemouth, Johnny Smith, you know, and then they have 403 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: Marquez Valdez Scantling who has familiarity with Aaron Rodgers. They 404 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: brought in, brought in the veteran Adam Thielen. So but 405 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: you're down when you're down DK Metcalf, who gave the 406 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: Ravens fits, especially outside the numbers like we're talking about here, 407 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: that that changes things for them. Yeah, their running backs 408 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: are a big part of their passing game too, Jalen 409 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: Warren and Gain Well, so they still have weapons, but 410 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to minimize the loss of DK Metcalf 411 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: and Quick and the Ravens cornerbacks no matter who's out 412 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: there need to do a better job because it wasn't 413 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: just one player for the Packers that was given problems outside, 414 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: it was multiple due. 415 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a little bit of a different scenario. 416 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: Compared to what happened in the first Steelers matchup, where 417 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: it was just DK Metcalf over and over again. I 418 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: mean it was it was Bo Melton, it was Romeo Dobbs, 419 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: like everybody. 420 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: Was getting in on the action. 421 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: Watson, yeah, Christian Watson and and like the other The 422 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: other piece too, is that the Ravens had some poor 423 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: really some poor discipline on the two Malik Willis touchdown, 424 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 3: so everybody kind of brought the fake and then he 425 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 3: had untouched carries into the end long untouched carries into 426 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: the end zone that were just too easy. Now, you 427 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that in the same way 428 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers as you do Malik Willis. 429 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think Aaron Rodgers did run for 430 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown and bad. 431 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: He did that. 432 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: I don't think he's running for thirty plus. Yeah, but 433 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: but he did run for one. It was his first 434 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: in a few years, and did the discount double checks. 435 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: So you can't forget about it. I mean in his 436 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: career he's been a good, good runner, not as much 437 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: at this stage of his career, but but yeah, you 438 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: can't totally forget about it. You have to have good 439 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: eye discipline, and the Ravens didn't on those plays, and 440 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: you can't sell out on those fakes, and so. 441 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: You have to be cognizant of that. It is. 442 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: I do wonder what the approach, what approach the Steelers 443 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: will take offensively, because in that game, like they have 444 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: not been a team really for much of the season 445 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: that's taken taking deep shots, but they did that first matchup. 446 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: For the very first series of that game, they were 447 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: taking shots down the field to DK Metcalf and it 448 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: worked in their favor. 449 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: And now Metcalf's not he's not going to play in this. 450 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: Game because of his suspension, and so they don't really 451 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: have that weapon to be the deep shot guy. Calvin 452 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: Austin can kind of be that, but he's not DK 453 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: Metcalf and he's coming off a hamstring injury. So I 454 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 3: wonder if they will go back to more of the style, 455 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 3: the short, quick game stuff that we saw from them 456 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: earlier this season and what they were doing against the Browns, 457 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: or if they'll see feeling. 458 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to stay in favorable downs and distances. 459 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: It's a lot of passes to the running backs, it's 460 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: short stuff to the tight ends, pick there's gonna be 461 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: fewer I think, pick your spots still to try to 462 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: push the ball down the field, but fewer opportunities for that, 463 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that game well is 464 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: a problem. And Jalen Warren there's two very good players. 465 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that they're going to try to get the 466 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: ball outside to them and find creative ways to get 467 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: get the ball in their hands. They'll take a shot 468 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: to MVFS, you know, they'll they'll still take a couple, 469 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: but I agree it's probably not going to look like 470 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: here several weeks ago. 471 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: Well. 472 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: The other part, too, is even in that game against 473 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: the Browns, in some kind of curious short short yard situations, 474 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: Rogers took shots down the field like he was throwing 475 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: fade routes to Scottie Miller and mvs like in these 476 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: critical situations late in the game and also even earlier 477 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: in short yard situations. And so I'll be I'll wonder 478 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 3: if now they didn't work in that game, and does 479 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: that deter the Steelers from trying that against the Ravens 480 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: or does is that what they want to do. I 481 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: think that that's something I'm curious about. The other piece, too, 482 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: is just like big picture for the Ravens given the 483 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: success they had against the Packers. Derek Henry had his 484 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: best game in a Ravens uniform, over two hundred yards 485 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: on the ground, four touchdowns, and I think a lot 486 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: of people feel like, here's your recipe, Like you found it, 487 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: you found your identity. You've been a little bit all 488 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: over the place this season. You've had you've had injuries 489 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: on offense, namely to your quarterback. But now you've found 490 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: your identity with Derrick Henry, and this is the recipe 491 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: moving forward. Just do that again and what's your take, 492 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: what's your read on it? Will that be what the 493 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: Ravens do in this game and ideally moving forward. 494 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: I think it'll still be a heavy dose of Derrick Henry. 495 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to duplicate thirty six carries, 496 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: which was a career high. And obviously a large part 497 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: of it is is it working right. If it's working 498 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: early on, then yeah, I think the Ravens will stick 499 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: with it. But the Steelers, you know, for a defense 500 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: that was struggling against the run for a good chunk 501 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: of the season and kind of hit rock bottom in 502 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: their loss to the Bills in which the Bills ran 503 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: the ball fifty one times for two hundred and forty 504 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: nine yards. Since that game, over the past four weeks 505 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, they've played the run better. Now. The 506 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: Ravens ran for two hundred and seventeen yards against them. 507 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Last time. Keith Mitchell had a long run, but Derrick 508 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Henry was held It was, you know, he was kind 509 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: of held in check. The average three point eight per carry. 510 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: So they did a decent job against Derek but Keaton 511 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: gashing him for one in the Ravens ultimately, you know, 512 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: forty for two seventeen. 513 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: You'll take that. 514 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Since that game, the Steelers run defense has been really stingy. 515 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean against the Miami Dolphins and Devon h They 516 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, was one of the top running backs this 517 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: year sixteen carries for sixty three yards for the Dolphins. 518 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: The Lions have one of the best, if not the 519 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: best running back tandem in the league with Jamir Gibbs 520 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: and Dave Montgomery. They ran twelve times for fifteen yards. 521 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: The Browns had twenty five for seventy eight. So this 522 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: Steelers run defense has been better in recent weeks. Is 523 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: it up to the challenge against the Ravens is the question. 524 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the I know a lot of the criticism around 525 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: the Ravens run game has been just the opportunities that 526 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry has received. That was the That was the 527 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: conversation after the Patriots game. It was not that case 528 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: against the Steelers. I mean the first time around. That 529 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: was not the criticism. He got the ball twenty five 530 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: times twenty five for ninety four yards in that game, 531 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: so he had plenty of opportunities that the Ravens just 532 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: didn't have a ton of room on the ground with 533 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: with with Henry again, Keaton Mitchell had that big run 534 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: in that game and they ended up with over two 535 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: hundred yards on the ground against the Steelers, but it 536 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: wasn't the type of game that we saw against the Packers. Now, 537 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: like all of a sudden, if you the thing about 538 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 3: Henry and the ground game in general is you can 539 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: be three yards four yards, three yards, four yards, but 540 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: then he's capable of fifty yards. He's capable of forty 541 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: yards in a hurry, and so you. 542 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 2: Get one of those long runs. 543 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: It changes those numbers in a hurry, and that's part 544 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: of the rationale for sticking with it. 545 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: And I think that I think. 546 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: It's too The way I view it is that it's 547 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: it's far too simplistic to just say, all right, the 548 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna do that again. They found exactly what's 549 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: working and they're gonna stick with that. However, I think 550 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: that there will be a clear commitment to getting Henry 551 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: the football, whether it's Snoop or Lamar at quarterback, and 552 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: they're gonna be They're gonna be consistent with it. They're 553 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: gonna be committed to it, and I think that that's 554 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: gonna be the focal point of the offense. That's the 555 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: way I I think that's I think that's the way 556 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: it starts. You find you find out whether you're having 557 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: success with that formula first, and if you need to 558 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: pivot from that now, you don't want to pivot too soon. 559 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: You want to give it a good You would have 560 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: given its time. 561 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: It's it's opportunities. But you know from there, obviously you 562 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: know you're not going to go in and say that's 563 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: that with only one option, you know. But but until 564 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: they stop it, to me, the Ravens are going to run. 565 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: At them the other thing too, Like, let's not forget. 566 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: They're up against it like they're gonna load they they 567 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: watched they watched the film, they watched that Green Bay game. 568 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, they know what happened. They know what the 569 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Ravens did to them down the stretch last year, and 570 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: there's final two games against them. They ran down their 571 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: throat and Mike Tomlin talked about it in the offseason 572 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: all several times that that lost to the Ravens in 573 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, he couldn't sleep at night because 574 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: of the way the Ravens just bodied them physically in 575 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: that game and ran up and down on them, and 576 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna do everything that he can. They're gonna load 577 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: it up to say, nah, you're not gonna stop. You're 578 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: not gonna beat us that way. We're gonna We're gonna 579 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: make sure that you're gonna have to beat us some 580 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: other way. Now, you know. Do the Ravens say, Okay, 581 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: we'll take our chances and go the other direction then, 582 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: or do you stick with what just worked in Green Bay? 583 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: That's that's the question. If the Steelers are hell bent 584 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: on stop doing everything they can to take away Derrick Henry, 585 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: can they run it anyway in the face of that, 586 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: or do they need to pivot. 587 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the question. I would argue that last year 588 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, the Steelers also expected the Ravens to 589 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 3: give him a steady diet of Derrick Henry and they 590 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: couldn't stop it. 591 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: The Ravens won game twenty eight to fourteen. 592 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: Henry had twenty six carries, one hundred and eighty six 593 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: yards two touchdowns, and. 594 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like they stopped it very much. 595 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: And now, one one point that I will make that's 596 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: different from the first time these two teams matched up 597 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: earlier this season is that Derek Harmon, their rookie first 598 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 3: round pick, is back on the lineup five lineman out 599 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: of Oregon, and he was a guy that the Steelers 600 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 3: drafted basically to stop Dereck Henry in this Ravens rushing attack, 601 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: Like that was why they took Harmon in the first round. 602 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: He missed the first game with an injury. He's back 603 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: on the lineup and he's he's a really good player 604 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 3: who's having who's shown some real flashes as a rookie. 605 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: So that's another added challenge that the Ravens have to 606 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: contend with. But I still think there's just gonna be 607 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: a commitment to it, and to your point, the Ravens 608 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 3: are gonna make them stop it before going away from it. 609 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: And like that's what happened last year in that playoff 610 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 3: game against Steelers. It was like, we're just gonna keep 611 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: running the same play over and over and over again, 612 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: and if you stop it, great, but we're just gonna 613 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: keep We're gonna keep the ball on the ground. We're 614 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: not even putting it in the air unless you make us. 615 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: And in order the one point I'll make on that too, 616 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: is in order to go with that type of approaching 617 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: game plan, you have to you the game script has 618 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: to work in your favor. You can't have turnovers that 619 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: put you in bad situations. 620 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: You can't. 621 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: You can't pin yourself back dep with penalties early in drives. 622 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: If you're trying to climb out of holes both from 623 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: a drive standpoint and from a score standpoint, you can't 624 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: stick with that game plan. And that's why I think 625 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: it's really important how the Ravens opened this game and 626 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: look early on. 627 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: Yep, agreed, Well, one guy that'd be nice to will 628 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: two guys be nice to having this Gameterrell Suggs and 629 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Marshall yonda talk about two physical dudes. You played a 630 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: lot of ball against the Steelers. The news Tuesday morning 631 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: here is that both are finalists yep, for the Pro 632 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty six. They're 633 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: among the fifteen finalists. Second straight year for them that 634 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: they've reached this final round. Obviously, they didn't get in 635 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: on their first ballot. But Garrett, what do you think 636 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: second ballot for one both none? What do you think? 637 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: I think I really think both of them, To be 638 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: honest with you, I was really surprised that neither of 639 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: them got in last year. I thought at least one 640 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: of them would get in as a first ballot. They 641 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: had their credentials. I think both of them like trell sugs. 642 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: You look at his you go through the stats on him, 643 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: just a quick recap. He's got seven time Pro Bowler, 644 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. He's the one time first 645 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: team All Pro, one time second team All Pro. He's 646 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl twice, once with the Ravens, then 647 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: once later in his career with the Chiefs. He was 648 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: also Defensive Rookie of the Year. He's top ten in sacks. 649 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: He has all the credentials and yonda like it's harder 650 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: with an offensive lineman stat wise, but man, this was 651 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: a guy that lived in the Pro Bowl and was 652 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: in All Pros and is an All Decade Team member 653 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: as well, And so I think that both of them 654 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: are definitely deserving and I think it'd be pretty awesome 655 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: if they both made it when you consider the fact, 656 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: like those two guys, they really formed a bond late 657 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: in their careers, and probably part of it is because 658 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: they were both just great players, but there was a 659 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: definite respect between them and they kind of piled around 660 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 3: a little bit in the locker room as leaders on 661 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: the offensive and defensive side of the ball, And it 662 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: would be awesome to see him get in together. 663 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this about Terrell Suggs. Jared Allen was 664 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: a great Minnesota Vikings pass rusher defensive end. He was 665 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: part of last year's Hall of Fame class. Terrell Suggs 666 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: had finished his career with three more sacks than Jared Allen. 667 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: So you look at, like you said, the credentials like 668 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Terrell Suggs has it now. It took Jared Allen five 669 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: tries to get into the Hall of Fame, so you 670 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: know it wouldn't surprise me if Terrell Suggs waits a. 671 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: Little bit longer. 672 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I think he's certainly deserving of getting in on this ballot, 673 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise if he has surprise me if 674 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: he has to wait a little bit longer. And then 675 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: with Marshall yonda, I think the thing that's difficult for 676 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: him getting in this year is Jarry Evans, who was 677 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: longtime New Orleans saint. You know a ton of credentials 678 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: as well, Pro bowls littered throughout his career. You know, 679 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: you don't have the stats as an offensive lineman, so 680 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: you kind of have the awards. Jarry Evans is a great, 681 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: great guard. He's been finalists twice and so you know, 682 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: does does he get in first before Marshall? And then 683 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Marshall would be kind of the next guard that gets 684 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: through the revolving door. You know, That's kind of the question. 685 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I think with him. 686 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: Right, and Marshall could jump him, even though Evans is 687 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: a great player who's kind of next thing the line. 688 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: But but yeah, certainly the line I think carries some weight, 689 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: but it's not, of course the end all be all, 690 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: And I think again, I think both these guys are 691 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: definitely deserving fingerscross that happens this year for both of them. 692 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: One quick thing before we wrap here is we got 693 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: a question to the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot Net. 694 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: Questions from Eli what happens and hopefully it doesn't come 695 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: down to this, but if it's a tie on Sunday 696 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: between the Ravens and the Steelers, that is a very 697 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 3: good question. If it's a tie, then the Steelers go 698 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: to the playoffs and they're AFC nor champs because the 699 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: first tiebreaker in that scenario, well, they would have a 700 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: better they would have a better record than the Ravens. Yeah. 701 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, so the Ravens have to finish, finish with 702 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: the same record as the Steelers in order to go. 703 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah so in that situation, the Steelers would have the 704 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: better records. Soh no plan for a tie for the 705 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: Ravens in this game. 706 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: You just got to win it, baby, Just win it. 707 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: Just win it. 708 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, No one wants to tie anyway, so uh, you 709 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: just got to win it and you're in. 710 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: So as always, we love hearing from you guys your questions. 711 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: You can email us as the Lounge at Ravens dot 712 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: NFL dot net we're working on a guest for this week, 713 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: so we're hoping to have that for you over the 714 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: course of the next couple of days, and we'll continue 715 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: breaking down everything throughout this week leading into a huge 716 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: Week eighteen matchup in Pittsburgh. Thank you so much for listening. 717 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: We'll be back with you again soon