1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: My guest today is television personality and friend Tyler Cameron. 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Tyler first received national attention on the fifteenth season of 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, starring Hannah Brown, which he was the runner 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: up of the season. He is a stand up guy. 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: He is a good person. He's honorable. He's been called 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: the feminist. I find him interesting. I think he's intriguing. 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I think his looks are the least interesting thing about him. 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm really excited now Tyler is joining season two's cast 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: of Special Forces World's Toughest Test. Make sure to tune 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: into Fox on Monday, September twenty fifth. This will just 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: be with Tyler Cameron. Let's get into it. We've met before. 12 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: We met in New York right after you were on 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, and I've read so much about you now 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that like I felt like I knew you, and I 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: think your book is really good. Like I have to say, 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: you did a great job. 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you so much. That was that 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: was a great experience writing the book and doing that, 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: you know, I you know, it was it was therapeutic, 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: honestly to kind of dive into those things and brought 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: up a lot of conversations with me and my dad 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: needed to have my brother, so it was really good. 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: So when we met your mom and when you were 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: on the show, your mom was alive, and that was 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: something you were struggling with, and I feel like you 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: were talking about it as a viewer. I thought I 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: thought she was going to be okay, And I wonder 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: if you thought the same thing, Like it felt like 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: you turned a corner and then went backwards again. 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she had a brain innerism. And when 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: when they told me that, when it happened, it was like, 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: it's probably nothing's going to bring her back, you know. 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: But they did all the tests and we kind of 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: kept things under wraps for a lot long time, probably 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: like three days into it, and then then things started 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: to come out. So then that's kind of how it 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: all transpired. But yet, no, it was it was pretty much. 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: It was such a big aneurism in her brain that 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: it was like the size of a quarter. They said 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: that on the main artery. 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm really so, I'm really sorry. 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was that was a tough one. 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it still is a tough one, I'm sure, 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: and I'm really sorry because the way that I think 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: of you is family first. That's just how I see you. 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: And I think it hasn't been something that you've quote 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: unquote pushed forward. I think it's just who you are, 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: which I think is why people have really connected to you. 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you're a pretty face, you're handsome, 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: you're in great shape, you're charismatic, you're charming. But I 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: think that, and you've had your player passed, but you're 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: ultimately a family person and I see that because you're 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: always going home to your family and you're going into 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: Florida in the summer when no one goes to Florida 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: if they don't have to. Although I like it because 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: I love off season, but I just see your connection 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: to your family and the family business, and I really 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I love that part about you. 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, no COVID. COVID and my mom's passing kind of 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: got me back home and then being home for that 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: much time, and I just feel so much more happier there. 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: I was around my family, I was around my friends. 63 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: All that stuff to me matters more than really anything. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: You know, my pops, you know his battles with his health, 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: you know, so it's just important to be around we 66 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: do projects together. We have a couple of construction projects 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: going on. Like guess, We're always working and doing stuff together. 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: It's fun. I love Jupiter. I'm a homeboy. I'm just 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm there now full time. You know. I kind of 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: put New York behind me and I'll go visit when 71 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: I need to. But Florida. I love being a Jupiter. 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: I love being a small town. I love you know, 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: like I want to be the high school football coach 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: there one day. 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that, because I think that 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: people think that when you achieve fame, why would you 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: choose to go back? Meaning everyone sort of thinks of 78 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: me as a New Yorker. I also, my time in 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: New York City has done too. It's a quality of 80 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: life thing. It's a choice. It doesn't matter how if 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: all the glitz and glamour and press and red carpet 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: stuff is there, which I don't even enjoy Anyway, I 83 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: feel like, how are you spending your life every day? 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? How do you feel good? Like? 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: Fame isn't cuddling you at night? Money, Money's not cuddling 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: you at night. I and listen, you're young as you 87 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: get older, I think that'll become even more the case. 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: But I love that you've chosen to be home. So 89 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: fame has been like an accessory in your life. You 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: don't really you don't really care about it that much, 91 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: do you. 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, I think the most fun I ever 93 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: have is is doing the stuff of my people I 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: grew up with in my family, you know. So it's 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: like like, if I do have some type of activity 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: or thing that fame has brought me, I bring those 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: people with me, you know exactly. So it's always I 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: don't hang I'm not really in the industry. I only 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: hang around those circles. I kind of just do my 100 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: own thing in Jupiter with my people, and when I 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: get opportunity, I bring them with me, you know. 102 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: And they probably don't even give a shit. They don't 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: even know really who you are. They couldn't care less. Right, 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the best. 105 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: People to have around you because they'll humble you, they'll 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: tell you when you're right, and when you're wrong, you know, 107 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: they they'll they'll you know, they're the best people to 108 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: go for advice. When but when I was running around 109 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: New York or LA, I was with just a bunch 110 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: of yes men and run a wild you know, and 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: there was nobody to say that you chill out, you 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: need you don't need to be doing this, you know. 113 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: So that really is cliche, but it really did happen 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: to you, like you really found that everybody was doing that. 115 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean because they always wanted to 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: go and do whatever was cool in New York or 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: LA and you know, and I was, and I was 118 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: also going in those circles that were filled with those people, 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: you know, so I was kind of following that too, 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: you know. And then I realized that this isn't very 121 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: this isn't me, this is very fulfilling. Like I love, 122 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Like my favorite day is just to be on my 123 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: boat on a Saturday, like you know, get up in 124 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: the morning, do something to do with some type of 125 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: physical activity, and go hang on the boat with my friends, 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: you know, like that to me is my person and 127 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: then watch it, watch you know, watch a movie, be 128 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: bid by eight. I don't I don't need to be 129 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: going out to all these clubs, don't. 130 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I want to. I don't, do. You know 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Griffin Johnson, by any chance. 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Griff. He looked closer to me and 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: I moved, he moved to West Palm Beach exactly. 134 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I could see you guys being friends. 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: He cares about like going like alligator hunting or swimming 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: or whatever the hell he's doing. And he does all 137 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: that kind of like big truck stuff. Like he's very 138 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: down home, also very family and very down to earth 139 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: and also a very attractive, successful man that's you know, 140 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: dabbled in the game, but really knows his roots and 141 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: knows who he is. That's why I thought you guys 142 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: would be I mean, he's younger, but I thought you 143 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: guys would be friendly because he's very he reminds me 144 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: of you. 145 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we always connected right away I met him. I 146 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: met him like four years ago, you know, and he 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: was a baby then, you know. But I always was 148 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: like I liked his values, like what he was about. 149 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a coachy boyfriend I think like 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Indiana or or something like that, or Illinois or something 151 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: small town. Yes, he always had those values and I 152 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: was appreciate a griffin for that, you know. And he 153 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: and he's honest with me. I don't I don't. I 154 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: don't belong in the circle of this right. But when 155 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: he got and I think when he got to Florida 156 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: he became so much more happier and healthier. 157 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Exactly does it do you feel defined by your looks? 158 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Does that bother you? Do you think? I mean, does 159 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: that annoying when people try to like make your being 160 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: a family guy and you know you're in construction, like 161 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: make that sort of like like like a gimmick or 162 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: like an image. 163 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: No, because for me, it's what gets me in the door. 164 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: You know. Then it's up to me to change their perspective. 165 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: So it's a tool, you know, so if I can use, 166 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: you know, if that's what gives me the door people, 167 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's what got me in this world, you know. 168 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: So but now it's up to me to, you know, 169 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: hope you use my voice and my actions to change 170 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: and prove that I'm more than just all that. 171 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: It's funny because when you were on I don't know 172 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: why I watched your season of The Bachelorette. I don't 173 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: know what, Like I just might have been flipping and 174 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: then just decided to commit, or I was watching with 175 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: my daughter, and I remember, and I haven't seen so 176 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: many seasons of it, but I remember saying to a 177 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: producer friend that I know who worked on House. I said, 178 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: this guy's got legs. He's gonna go all the way. 179 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: And she said please, he's about like, you know, like 180 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: the rest of them. And she thought you were going 181 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: to end up in some like bachelor pile. And I 182 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: was like, no, I think that guy is going all 183 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the way. I actually made a bet. I wish I 184 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: knew what it was for so I could collect, but 185 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: I was like no. And every time I see you 186 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: doing something amazing, I always say to her, told you 187 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: that guy was going places. I really did. I had 188 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: a feeling about you. There was something poised and confident, 189 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: and you handled yourself well. It's you know. The truth 190 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: is many people who are attractive are very confident and secure. 191 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to. There are a lot of guys 192 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: that I call trick guys who were unattractive in high school, 193 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: never got girls, then make a lot of money later 194 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: and their dicks because they feel like it's not real. 195 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: They don't trust anybody, they don't trust women, and they're 196 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: the trickier ones. It's sometimes the ones that are like, uh, 197 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: you know that there doesn't have to be some player 198 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: aspect behind you. If that makes any sense, Like you 199 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: could be a nice looking, smart, well adjusted family man 200 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: and it could just be what it is. 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, credit too. I've had a lot of great women 202 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: and friends of my life that you know, Like my 203 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: mom was probably my closest friend growing up, and then 204 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: my two best friends are are women. It's it's Molly 205 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: and Katie, and so always being around them and always 206 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: having them around always made me so comfortable, but also 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: always made me so protective of them and other women. 208 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Well, respecting women too. I guess people say, look at 209 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: a person's relationship with their mother, and you honor your 210 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: mother and you respect women, which is a big part 211 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: of it. So what are you doing for? If someone 212 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: were next to someone on a plane, they said, what 213 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: do you do for a living? What would you say 214 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: you do? 215 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: I tell them I work in construction and restaurants. You know. 216 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: I try to keep it at that because I want 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: that part of my life to be what I'm known 218 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: for now. You know, all this stuff is added bonus 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: and it's great, and I want to keep building on 220 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: it and the TV stuff, but I want to build, 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: like my goals to build a construction company and a 222 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: real business and and really dive into the real estate world. 223 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: I got some really cool projects happening right now. I 224 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: got a house for sale in a couple of weeks coming. 225 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Out in Florida, like a flip I know, I spec. 226 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: Home built, ground up. Okay, yeah, so that comes on 227 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: the market in two weeks. And then I'm also in restaurants, 228 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: you know, I just live it up. My fourth restaurant 229 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: on Atlantic Avenue. 230 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: In w A Beach, really which ones. 231 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: It's called Three Natives, So it's like a health like 232 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: a like a health bast food type chain. It's really 233 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: good smoothies. Also you bowls, wrap salads, and uh it's 234 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: my fourth one, and I love the brand. I love 235 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: the product, and I'm just going to keep wrong with 236 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: the brand. 237 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: You invested with them or you started the brand at 238 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: three Native Floridians. Is that what it is started? 239 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I joined as a franchise, but I have 240 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: to with the guy who started the company. And then 241 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: I have two franchises with my other. 242 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Buddy, so they are handling operations and like how it's run. 243 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: You're you're investing and ambassador and promoting, et cetera. Amazing 244 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: Good for you. I love that. So all in Florida, 245 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: all in Florida. 246 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to grow. I want to. I 247 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: want to. I want to take it out to like 248 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: college towns. I want to take it to Dallas. Those 249 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: are the markets I want to hit next. So I 250 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: want to get these one situated first and then and 251 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: then start growing more. 252 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Is it the kind of place that works better in 253 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: a college affordable place or like a wealthy community, because 254 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: Atlantic is a wealthy community. 255 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: We like to say we want to be in communities 256 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: where uh you know, like Atlantic Avenue, like you know, 257 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: like the you know, we want people with either their 258 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: dad's credit card or the driving BMW's. We want to 259 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: be in those community you know what I mean. 260 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: First of all, in all all of the things that 261 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: I was reading about you, I didn't see about that 262 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: dancing thing that I loved. When you did the dirty 263 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: danceing thing? What was what was in my mind? And 264 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, but you reminded me 265 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: exactly of him. You totally fucking channeled Patrick Swayze. Nobody 266 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: puts baby in the corner. You did the lift. I 267 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: need to know what that was because I was obsessed 268 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: with that. 269 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: That was that was so much fun it was like 270 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: a little quick thing that came up. I just said, 271 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: you want to do this? And I love the dance 272 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 2: I was. I was almost a dance minor in college. 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, let's let's give this a run. 274 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, the movie's iconic. Uh. We got 275 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: to the hotel where they shot the movie at in 276 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: Virginia and we got to compete to be the best 277 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: baby in Johnny and I was trying to be my 278 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: best Patrick Swayzey. It was It was so much fun. 279 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: It was so smart of them to do you that 280 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: was so good and you just finished. I didn't know 281 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Special Forces had a first season. I thought this was 282 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the first season. So you just finished the second season 283 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: of Special Forces. And they're kind of like simulating the military. 284 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, so they so yeah, they're basically simulating Hell 285 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: Week essentially for like selection for like an SAS or 286 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: a Seals and whatnot. It's all led by uh staff 287 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: that was you know, part of the Seals or says 288 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: type of Special Forces like that, and uh. And it 289 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: was the hardest thing I've ever done, Bethany. I mean, 290 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: it put me through the ringer. I thought it was 291 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: gonna be easy. I thought it was gonna be la 292 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: like foo flu Hollywood, right, you know, we'll be eating 293 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: good foods, we'll be driving around all this stuff. No, 294 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: they grinded us out. 295 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: And so was it about physical endurance? Because you have 296 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: more respect for Hannah Brown after doing it, like what 297 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: do you what? What was it about? Like Survivor seems gnarly? 298 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Like what was it about? 299 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: It was physical, mental, and emotional exhaustion and like and 300 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: like they just beat you know, Like when when Hannah Brown, 301 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: like Hanna Brown passed first season, I was like, if 302 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: she can do this, I got this, you know. And 303 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: then and I got into it, I was like, oh, 304 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: this is a beast, you know. And because it's not 305 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: about you know, like it's everyone's own level of you know, 306 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: you're in your own competition like golf, so exactly exactly okay, 307 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: and so like what I'm going through is super hard 308 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: for me and maybe it's different for somebody else, you know. 309 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: And once I did it, man, I had so much 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: more respect for for Hannah and Carly Lloyd and you 311 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: know those are the finishers you know, the last year, 312 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: Like those people are bad ass, you know. And but yeah, 313 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: I got through it. And then it just gave me 314 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: even you know, we got to get a little sliver 315 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: and taste of what the military goes through. And I just, 316 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, the amount of respect you know I already 317 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: had is now even way more above all that my 318 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: brother's in the army. I'm like, jeesus, like, you guys 319 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: go through this all, you know, and they don't even 320 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: get them the love and the credit I think they deserve, you. 321 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Know, totally totally. Like you think about Navy Seals training, 322 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: like what that must do to your mind? 323 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: Now it's incredible. 324 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like a great experience. I mean, how 325 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: long were you there? 326 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Eight days? 327 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Eight days? Okay, so they put you how many people 328 00:14:59,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: are there? 329 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: Fourteen of us? 330 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: So they put you in a room with Tom Sandoval? 331 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Uh were you aware of everything that was going on? 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Like there's no time to talk about that nonsense. 333 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know Tom Standibal. Well I started to understand 334 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: who Tom Standible was because I mean everyone in the world, 335 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: you know, saw the scandal and all that stuff, and 336 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: so oh this would be interesting to you know, be 337 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: on the show with this guy. And and I mean 338 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: I was sat next to the guy. We our bunks 339 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: were right next to each other, you know. So I 340 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: got to got to be around on quite a bit 341 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: and get to know him, you know, quite well. And 342 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: you know Tom. Tom's an interesting guy. 343 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: So I think you're a pretty good judge of character. 344 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: And he's on a reality show and The Bachelor is 345 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: a real or the Bachelor at Bachelor Nation is a 346 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: reality show, but it's a different type of reality show, 347 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: the same way that The Apprentice is a different type. 348 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: Like there's a goal, there's like they only care about 349 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: pretty much the goal, and then there are other things 350 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: around it, but that's what it is, whereas Bravo type 351 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: vander Pomper House, it's kind of a little bit. It's 352 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: a little bit different. So my question is, and I 353 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: think it's they're like the Unsullied. It's their job to 354 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: create ratings, you know, it's their job to create drama 355 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: and ratings. And yes, The Bachelor is like that. Two 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation is like that too, but it's a little 357 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: different in my opinion from what I've heard. So I don't. 358 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I never really watched Vanda Promper Rules until 359 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I was interviewing Rachel for my podcast. I did not 360 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: know what I was walking into I did not know 361 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: the explosion that this was going to be. Honestly, it's insane, 362 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: this this this thing. But my question to you, you know, 363 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what role they're all playing as characters 364 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: because the show is in a bar. So my question 365 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: is do you think he's a good guy or a 366 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: bad guy? 367 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: I think you know, Tom, Here's what I told everyone 368 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: about the show. As the show strips everyone down to 369 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: their core, right, okay, and you I think watching the show, 370 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: you'll you'll have a different opinion of how you look 371 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: and perceive people, you know, Okay, because Tom had a 372 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: lot of ship talk to him, a lot of hate. 373 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: Nick had a lot of ship, a lot of talk 374 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: to him, a lot of hate. Like you're watch and 375 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna see, like my views and perspective, you know, 376 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: perspective of them changed. I think Tom Tom fucked up. Tom. 377 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Tom did something you should never do, should never cheat 378 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: on your woman, you know, like we all know that 379 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: problems did it, and it's broadcasted to millions of people, 380 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: and then the pilot right that we live on and 381 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: the canceled culture we live on just goes and like 382 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: like he got you know, he he cheated but you 383 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: know it was treated like murder, you know. 384 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: And interesting. So you think he's a good guy that 385 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: does bad things or has done bad things. 386 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean when he talked, he 387 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 2: looked out for everybody there on the show. He was 388 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: you know, he would he would help out, you know, 389 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: he wouldn't even you wouldn't even ask for his help, 390 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 2: and he'd be helping you out. You know. He like 391 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: he was a guy who you know, when you're doing this, 392 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: you need each other. And he was there for everybody 393 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: that needed him when he needed you know, sometimes Tom 394 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: would do some things on his own, and Tom would 395 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: fuck up here and there. You know, Tom makes mistakes. 396 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: We all make mistakes, you know, on the show, and 397 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: Tom would make mistakes sometimes more than others. But at 398 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: the end of the day, Tom never had ill intent 399 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: in his heart towards any of us, towards anyone on 400 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: the show. He was just there to try and make 401 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: it better for everybody else, you know, And. 402 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: You could tell, like on a Survivor, you could tell 403 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: who Richard Hatch was or wasn't, like you're saying, you 404 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: could tell. In this experience, it's stripped down a situation, 405 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: so you feel like you have an accurate That's very interesting. 406 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: That's an interesting that I'm trying to get at overall. 407 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: Where Listen, I if I invested in all those seasons, 408 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: what I maybe have hated Raquel for what was portrayed, 409 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: But it also is the thing that literally kept the 410 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: show from cancelation. That's been said, and it's been millions 411 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: and million, tens and maybe hundreds of millions of dollars 412 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: in profit as a result of that affair. So you know, 413 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: and I know that some people everyone plays a different part, 414 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: and some people are there to be the villain that 415 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: may be the only role that they're good at playing, 416 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: or this is what producers are leaning them towards her, 417 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: this is what they're making money for. And it was 418 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: an interesting thing overall because you said that you thought 419 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: that you thought that she had some sort of a 420 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: hold on him Raquel, like that he she was in 421 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: his heart or his mind or present there, like he 422 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: did have a feeling for her, which I was surprised by. 423 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: Repel the new girl. 424 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Raquel's the girl he had the affair with, yes, not 425 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: the yeah like you, I hadn't seen it until I 426 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: had to see it. But yeah, Raquel's the one who 427 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: had an affair with while he was in a relationship 428 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: with Arianna living together for ten years. 429 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: He definitely talked about it in a positive light and 430 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: wanted to grow their relationship and wanted to move forward, 431 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, like he had. He wanted to try and 432 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: grow that, you know. And so I mean, I think 433 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: this show you'll really get to see a lot of that. 434 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: You know, you'll see a lot of character development with Tom. 435 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: You know, I think this was the greatest. This show 436 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: was probably the best thing for Tom's and the timing 437 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: of the situation that Tom was in this is interesting, 438 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: probably the the best thing for him to cut. And 439 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: we talked about it, you know a little bit yesterday 440 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: when I was with him at the event the premiere 441 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 2: to the premiere event. You know, he's like you kind 442 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: of gave him a little slap on They asked, like, 443 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: all right, you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. You 444 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: need to go move on with your life. You know, 445 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: like you made your mistakes, you took your beatings, you 446 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean, you need you need to move 447 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: on all your life. How many people do you know, 448 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: you know that have cheated on their spouse. You know 449 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: they have some shame and guilt from about you know, 450 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: some people here and there in their community, but they 451 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: don't have to answer to the whole town or the 452 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: whole country. 453 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: Brilliant, very smart, very insightful. The woman sometimes he took 454 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: it bad. The woman's son, his higgs even worse because 455 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: she's known as the vixen, the minx, the slut. You know. 456 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: It's just so it's interesting. It just was as brought up, 457 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: an interesting topic overall, bigger than a reality show. But 458 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: what you say is true. It's something of the answer 459 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: to the world. Like it was murder. He's not married, 460 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't have kids, he's on a show fueled by alcohol. 461 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: I had the same reaction as you, But I just 462 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: think everyone got hooked into that at that exact moment. 463 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: To me, I had something. I think it's terrible and 464 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: it's it's awful. That's something I never want to experience 465 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: with my spouse, you know, But it happens in the 466 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: pylon culture, the cancel culture. It's so sickening, and and 467 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: people just what you put someone through by doing that, 468 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: the nasty comments and messages like it's just it's to me, 469 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: it's just terrible. 470 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: People love it. It's gotten really people really enjoy it. You 471 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: see people enjoying it. So I didn't. So do you 472 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: think you would have been a professional athlete? You threw 473 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: out your shoulder and you said I got to have 474 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: a new path, and I didn't realize, like, how seriously 475 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: on the path you are. 476 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a couple of things messed up my path. Well, 477 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: three things i'd say, I'd say probably the wrong guidance 478 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: early on about what positions and things I should be playing. 479 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: You know. Two, I was a knucklehead party boy, loved 480 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: to have like I had my first taste of freedom, 481 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: and I went wild in college. And uh, I didn't 482 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: really focus like I could have. And then three injuries. 483 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: You know. I tore my knees, tore my left knee twice, 484 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: to my right knee once, tore both my shoulders, tore 485 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: both my hips. 486 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 487 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: I was just hanging on my threads pretty much when 488 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: I was trying to go pro with the Ravens. 489 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. But that's still your first love in a way, 490 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: because you said that that was your sort of dream. 491 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm a competitor. I love sports. I love I love football, 492 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: love competing. That's why I love the show because I mean, 493 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: it was it was it was competition, you know, it 494 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: was competing, it was camaraderie, it was being in the 495 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: locker room again, like I love I love that stuff. 496 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: And you know it's when you get away from it, 497 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: you miss it. That was my whole life, you know. 498 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that And I love those those articles 499 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: that say the twenty five things you didn't know about someone. 500 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: I was a good debater in high school too. So 501 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you were a good debater because because you're organized with 502 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: your thoughts and you just what's the reason for that, 503 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: Because there's a certain type that's a good debater. 504 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: I had a really good partner, Bethany. 505 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: Oh you weren't good on your own. 506 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: I mean I debated in the ACC Debate Champion once. 507 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: My buddy was was one of the top debat in 508 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: the country, and he had me come do it, and 509 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: and once I kind of rhythm had like the first 510 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: couple of debates, then I became actually pretty good. But 511 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: as I also able to speak about a topic that 512 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: I felt, you know, passionate about, and it was about 513 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: student ATHLETs if they could receive monetary conversation. And I 514 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: was I mean, now they're all getting paid. You know, 515 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: it's twenty We're talking about this six years ago in debate. 516 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: But so I was able to be passionate about it, 517 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: give you know first, you know, true life examples. So 518 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: we crushed it was it was awesome. 519 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you have a love 520 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: for food. I see your food you get really passionate. 521 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm the same, like you love to get the fine 522 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: and taste the taste and is it really what it's 523 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be? Do you? Are you still doing that 524 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: like just for fun? Are you still obsessed with that? 525 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm big on food. I'm right now I'm trying to 526 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: be my domesticated Tyler Erras. I'm trying to go to 527 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: the grocery store now and cook my own food and 528 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: clean and do all these things at the house. But yeah, no, 529 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: I love food. I mean I've kind of become a 530 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: steak snob. Uh. You know, I'm like, I could this 531 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: is expensive. I could probably make this better at home. 532 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: You know a steak you mean in the preparation or 533 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: in like the Woggi or the Japanese Like we're in 534 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the preparation you're talking about. 535 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I like the wag stuff. I like, 536 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a New York strip guy. 537 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Like, I'm a New York strip guy too, with you 538 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: like the bone or off off the okay, because I'm 539 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: a New York strare person too. Where's your favorite place 540 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: to get stay? 541 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: A fair place to get stak? There's a there's a 542 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: place in town and JUPI are called evo. If you've 543 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: ever done the dry ash New York strips, amazing. 544 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: But charred medium, like what's your temperature? Or you do 545 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: medium rare? Your medium rare? Do you make it at 546 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: home with like the head of gar like and then 547 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: you started off in the in the skillet and then 548 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: you finish it in the oven or because it's harder 549 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: and the grill is good, But the grill I don't 550 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: think it's as good as like the skillet pan rose 551 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: you have. 552 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: So I do the green egg. 553 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: So I charcoal like it's oh you do love the 554 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: green the. 555 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: Green egg with it, and it's nice. 556 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: But that green egg makes a difference in the cooking technique. 557 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: So and I can still do the same because the 558 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: green egg get so hot, So I put it in there. 559 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: You know, I get it, you know, you know around 560 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: two fifty three fifty and I get it to my 561 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: temperature that I needed to pull it off, and then 562 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: I get that green egg to like five hundred and 563 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: six hundred degrees and then I chart nicely on the 564 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: on the outside. 565 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: That's like the Peter Lugers because they have those old 566 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: hot ovens and that's that truck. You've been to Lugers, right, 567 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: they have that old Like yeah, all right, I'm gonna 568 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I might get the green egg if it's that. You 569 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: tell me that big of a difference. 570 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I never could go on propane ever. Again, green 571 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 2: Egg is where to go. 572 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I'm gonna all right, I gotta write that down. 573 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I knew about it, but I just forgot 574 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: that I knew about it. So dating, would you do? You? Online? 575 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: Date? 576 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Was that ridiculous question, like how do you meet people? 577 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: And how do you deal with trust issues? 578 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: You know, I try, like the Rye app, I've tried, 579 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: I've done some, I've done some dating. You know, dating 580 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: has changed a lot for me, probably in the past 581 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: year and a half two years. You know, I dated, 582 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: you know, I dated the model, I dated the influencers. 583 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: I did all that, and then I was like I'm 584 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: kind of stepped away from dating for a while and 585 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: then I'm now putting myself back out there. But my 586 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: whole perspective on the change. At first, I was always 587 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: I gotta date somebody with a name and this, and 588 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: shes gotta be cool, she's gotta be hosh, she gotta 589 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: be all this. And now I'm just trying to date somebody. 590 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: You know, Steve Harvey, who I like to listen to. 591 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: He uh, he said, And I was simple as he said. 592 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: Women are like an elevator button. They can either bring 593 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: you up or they can bring you down. And I 594 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: look at everyone I meet now like can they bring 595 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: me up in life or they can? Are they going 596 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: to bring me down in life? And you know, are 597 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: they going to match my morals, my values? All those things? 598 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: And it's just broken down in a very simple way. 599 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: And I can tell within two three dates if it's 600 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: going to be an up or down type of woman 601 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 2: for me. And that's kind of how I look at 602 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: things now. 603 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: I look at dating celebrities because I've met celebrities before 604 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: and dabble not like you did, I mean you date. 605 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Although Gigi seems like a class act, I've met her mom, 606 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: her sister sort of is a fan of mine. But 607 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: she seems like a class act, but like a different 608 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: level than dating the influencers from my perspective, But I 609 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: would think that that would just feel like a lot 610 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: thinking of who you are, where you come from, and 611 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: how ground you are. Even if a person's amazing, it 612 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: would seem like you're in some machine, like you just 613 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: have to like deal with all that someone's got constant 614 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: glam and social media and teams and entourages. And I 615 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: would think that would be overwhelming. 616 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, I want a simple life, like 617 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: I want to. I want to create a lot of 618 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: opportunity and do a lot of things and make a 619 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: lot of money so I can do the things I 620 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: want to do, which is not much. I want to 621 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: I want, I guess I want to coach high school football. 622 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: I want to live by the water. I want to 623 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: be able to be on my boat, you know, I 624 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: want to have some land to So it's like I 625 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: want to find someone that fits into that lifestyle. And 626 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: I've been back home. I've been dating back home, which 627 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not dating celebrities, I'm not dating influencers, 628 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm dating just people, you know, and I've 629 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: loved it. It's been a good change and it's been 630 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: very healthy and uh, you know, it's getting a lot 631 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: better for me. 632 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: What's the age range? I'm just thinking because I went 633 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: to Pine Crest. I don't know if you know that. 634 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Do you know that? 635 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you went to Pine Crest? 636 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Pine Crest. So I spent a lot. 637 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in Florida, but I 638 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: went to high school in Florida. But what's the age range? 639 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: I probably I saw her. It used to be like 640 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: young twenty two is like my last girlfriend. But now 641 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's got to be like twenty seven, twenty 642 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: six and above. 643 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: Do you date older? 644 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 645 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I would, Okay, I'll think about it. Not that you 646 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: asked me to, but you never know. It's good to 647 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: be set it's good to be set up. I mean, 648 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I would say that's a decent, decent way. And I 649 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: actually I think online is good. Okay, do you care. 650 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't dating someone who's heavily into social media or 651 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: being in a relationship. I don't like that, which is 652 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: a double standard. But there's one peacock I guess in 653 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: this relationship. 654 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: I don't like. 655 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: It turns me off. What do you think about that? 656 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: Honestly, that's one of the things that me and my 657 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: buddies will joke. That's a green flag for us. It's like, 658 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: you know, after all, social media, they don't they don't 659 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: care about that life because that life is so consuming. 660 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: I hate social media, so I hire people to do 661 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: my social media, you know, because I don't want to 662 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: be on it. You know, I don't want to you're doing. 663 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: By the way, no one would believe me. I if I, 664 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: like were taught when I retire, which won't be that long, 665 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be doing it at all. I never understood 666 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: it from the beginning. I never understood telling people what 667 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: you're eating where you are. And I do it a lot, 668 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: but it's become a vehicle, as you know, and you 669 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: do it too, but it's like a really vicious cycle. 670 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: I thot those things away down the road and get 671 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: a flip phone and not to worry about internet on 672 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: my phone. That would be the biggest job. 673 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: It'll happen soon. Keep with the restaurants. I like this 674 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: for you restaurants fishing. You get a whole program. 675 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tool, but and I'll use it for now. 676 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, if she's not on social media, that's a 677 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: huge plus. You know, if she's not on it much, 678 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: it's great. 679 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: You know, that's a green flag. I haven't used that, 680 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: not a red flag. It's a green flag if someone 681 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have it. So about the Bachelorette experience, it seems 682 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: like it was an amazing experience for you. It seems 683 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: like you did it to find love and also just 684 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: for an adventure, Like you seem like that type of person. 685 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: You are competitive, as you said, and in reading about it, 686 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: I think like you really did want to propose, like 687 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to quote unquote when but not really just 688 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: for the show. But it seems like you really thought 689 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: you could have a life together. Is that really like you? 690 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: You were not a little bit freaking out that it 691 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: might happen and that you might have to deal with it, 692 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: think about if it would really last, Like what was 693 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: going on? 694 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, of course I was freaking out, 695 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: Like that morning when I was getting ready to propose, 696 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: I was I was sick to my stomach. I was 697 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: nervous as butterflies, you know what I mean? Because this 698 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: is a big step in my life. But I knew 699 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: if it was meant for me, you would happen, you know, 700 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: and and we figure it out, you know, And so 701 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: I was excited. It was a big day. You know. 702 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: I was definitely like in that I was in bubble 703 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: love for sure. I was ready to fall in love 704 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: with that girl. And and you know, like and and 705 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully build a future. And it didn't 706 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: work out that way, you know, and if it would 707 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: have worked out, you know, who knows what could have happened, 708 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: you know, but you know, everything happens the way as 709 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: opposed to and it was a blessing it didn't, you know. 710 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: But and you're still friends. You still have a good relationship. 711 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so have a good relationship, still friends. You know, 712 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: she's great, Uh, you know, she just got engaged. I'm 713 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 2: very excited for her. You know, I just want her 714 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: to be happy. 715 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: She seems great. I just wonder, like what, you know, 716 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: it it was meant to be also because she's wanted 717 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: this life and entertainment, and you want a girl who 718 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: wants to be like in Jupiter on your boat. So 719 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: that's a part of it too. Like she went on 720 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: the ride, no disrespect her. I think she's wonderful and 721 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: she's got a podcast which got a whole thing going. 722 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: She was amaze. I just think life is interesting. But 723 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know that you genuinely really wanted it. 724 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: Not because I care, not because I'm like a big 725 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: fan of the I'm just curious that, like if what 726 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I was watching was that you really were into it. 727 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: But you're right, Gabby. Wendy came on the podcast and 728 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: she did talk about the bubble, and it makes sense. 729 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: I've been in a situation where I'm going to be 730 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: married on TV. I'm having a baby on TV, and 731 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: it's not something you can control. That is different. It's 732 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: like it's on steroids, the experience you're having. 733 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is, I mean. And that's one thing 734 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: I always told myself was like one of my favorite 735 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: coaches saying is was be where your feet are and 736 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: and I would be on his luxurious you know, dates 737 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: and doing the craziest things. But I always would tell myself, 738 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: remember what you're here for. I get to know this girl. 739 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: Don't worry about the dates, and don't fall in love 740 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: with the scene and the setting. Fall in love with 741 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: this person. You know, and and you know, that was 742 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: kind of what kept me grounded and kept me into it. 743 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: And I like to she was she was an amazing girl. 744 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: I fell in love with her on the show and 745 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: and you know, I thought we could have had something special. 746 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: And when when it didn't happen, it was it was. 747 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: It was a lot of emotions. I was upset. I 748 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: talked to my book how I cried walking down the 749 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: steps in Greece from my resort, you know, and I 750 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: was like, it was I was emotional because you know, 751 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: with her, I was upset didn't work out because I 752 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: really wanted to work out. And then also like in 753 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: my life, I've always come this close to so many things, 754 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, football that, relationships, so many things in my 755 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: life has been right here. Yeah, and uh so that 756 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: was just like, damn here I am again. 757 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: You know that's interesting. I get that. I really get that. 758 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: That's funny. Do you still feel that way now or 759 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: you don't think of things that way coming as close? 760 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: You know, It's it's a great reminder because I think 761 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: a lot of the reasons why I always ended up 762 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: here was certain things in my preparation or things I 763 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: didn't do right, or you know things I can reflect 764 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: on that I can be better at in the future, 765 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: so hopefully I can close the gap on other things 766 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: in life down the road. 767 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: And I read that there. I can't imagine why they 768 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't ask you to be the host. I don't know 769 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: that you would want that. I spoke to Chris Harrison 770 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: on here, but I think you would be so great. 771 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: You're You're funny, you're smart, you think before you speak, 772 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: you're polished, you're solid. I mean, you know the whole game. 773 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: And has that ever come up, Like, would you do that? 774 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: What hosts the show? 775 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 776 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean no, it has It has not come up, 777 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: But I mean I would too. It's the greatest job 778 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: in the world. Do you travel around the world. You 779 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: see you say like three sentences an episode and then 780 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: you're up. 781 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: You know, Like, I think you should have that job. 782 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: I just would like you to have that job. I 783 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: want you to I just I'm saying that right now. 784 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: I think you. I can't think of a reason why 785 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have that job. I'd like that job for you. 786 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: It would be great. I think you know, they probably 787 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: won't want me to go through the Bachelor lead first 788 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: to get to that point. 789 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: But Chris Harrison wasn't a bachelor. 790 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jessin Palmer was. I guess it's I'm thinking, 791 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah. 792 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: No, it's there's a lot of things that happen differently. 793 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm putting that out there. I think 794 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: you're obvious, and I don't know why it's not. It 795 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been said like formally or officially. 796 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 797 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: And ABC called you a feminist and you kind of 798 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: felt like that was flattering, But you were being called 799 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: a feminist for just being sort of an honorable an 800 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: honorable man. That's doing the right thing. 801 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: I don't think I was just doing the respectful right thing. 802 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: You know. 803 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: It's so true. And I have a thirteen year old daughter, 804 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: and it starts really young, meaning the way that the 805 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: girls treat each other and kiss the other person's boyfriend, 806 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: and the way that the boys act like punks, et cetera. 807 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: And it's really, I don't want to say it's a 808 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: full time job. It's a consistent job of me to 809 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: really talk to her about how you should be treated 810 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: like it's something and not to just oh, that guy's 811 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: a jerk, don't I mean, to really like get into 812 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: emotionally what you deserve and you should never settle for 813 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: less than what you deserve. And it's a lot of 814 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: I think that mothers need to start that really early 815 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: with their own experiences, sharing their own experiences and like 816 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: dynamics because I feel like it's working. My daughter likes 817 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: the nice sort of almost not dorky, but like the cute, 818 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: nice boys that are really sweet to her and like 819 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: have the glasses and come up and like give her 820 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: a flower versus like there are young punks at that. 821 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: You know, she's thirteen, and I like that. I feel 822 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: very proud of that because it is an open dialogue 823 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: and it requires a lot of conversation and a lot 824 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: of listening and watching what they're doing and who they're 825 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: talking to. And it starts really early, it does. 826 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just all about I get on my brothers, 827 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 2: my boys. You know. I was like, we never treat 828 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: them like this, you know, like this is you know, 829 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: like we were we're protectors and all our friends. We 830 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 2: have such tight girlfriend groups, you know, And I think 831 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 2: that's where it all started, is like having a really 832 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: great platonic relationship with a girl, so then you can 833 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: respect them, you can be there for them. You can 834 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,959 Speaker 2: hear what they're going through and also be a voice 835 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: for them on the other end of it too, you know. 836 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: And so it's just I'm in a relationship with a girl. 837 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: If I'm seeing a girl, that person is important to me, 838 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna treat that person like I treat my 839 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: best friends. 840 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: It's funny. My fiance is like that. He's he has 841 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: a code and it's down to the little things, like 842 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: he would never in a restaurant look over and be like, oh, 843 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: she's hot, or if I even say, do you think 844 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: she's attractive, he won't even comment. Like he has sort 845 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: of a code and just a way that he thinks 846 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: that you're supposed to respect, not a way that you're 847 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: supposed to way that he does respect a woman and me. 848 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: And it's really safe, you know, it's really safe. He's 849 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: not one of these I've dated the hot shot. It's 850 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: really exciting all the time. Feels like you're driving with 851 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: no breaks and everything is a party, and you know, 852 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: he's a very solid, loving, amazing partner, and it's it's 853 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: just different, and I you know, it's different. 854 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 2: Nothing worse than feeling insecure in your relationship. 855 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: Insecure and like I use that with it, like you're 856 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: driving with no breaks, like you're kind of like you know, 857 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: you're ahead of yourself, and it seems good and it's 858 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: just something feels on comfortable. Yeah, it feels unsafe. 859 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. They're miserable. They're terrible. You know, they're anxiety 860 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 2: filled and driven and you know it's it's it's not good. 861 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: Well, I think you're a one last question. I think 862 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: you're great. I really do. I wanted to have you 863 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: on here since the beginning. I liked you from the 864 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: minute I met you. I liked you from watching you 865 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: on TV. I was right in telling my friend that 866 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: you would go the distance as just a human being 867 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: and not being like every other guy. And I think 868 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: you deserve all your success. I genuinely do so. I'm 869 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: really grateful you came on. I can't wait to see 870 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: all the things you're doing. I want to see the 871 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: business deck and I want to you know, we'll get together, 872 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: hopefully in Florida or when you you know, come to 873 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: New York. But I wanted to ask you, uh, your 874 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: rose and thorn of your career, My. 875 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: Rose and thorn. Oh that's a good, that's a good one. 876 00:38:52,840 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 2: My rose. Well, so my rose would be of the 877 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: foundation I started. We started a foundation on in my mom. 878 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I'm able to now give kids 879 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: full scholarships to go to school and we're paying full 880 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: tuition now. We have seven girls right now, and none 881 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: of this would be possible it wasn't for my career 882 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: in this world. It's a way to shine a light 883 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: on my mom still, because this is what she did 884 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: for everyone in our community, was finding ways to help 885 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: them go to college. So I think, you know, the 886 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 2: culmination of everything that this world, in this career has 887 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: brought me has been able to you know, allow me 888 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: to impact others, and to me, that's how I was raised, 889 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: you know, like my mom, she always did everything for 890 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: everyone in our community. My dad's the same way. And 891 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: so the rose is being able to take everything that 892 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: I've gotten this world and then give it to others. 893 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: The thorn would probably be dealing with my phone in 894 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: like social media. To me, that's the hardest thing, you know, 895 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: it's it's just a pain, there's you know, it's I've 896 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: never had anxiety, depression, any of that stuff until I 897 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 2: had this following in this phone and I think that's 898 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: been my biggest thorn. And you know, like you know, 899 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: comments and things like that, Like those things, as much 900 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: as you want to say they don't get to you, 901 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: those things do get to you at times. So those 902 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: things make you trigger shy and to not post or 903 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: be who you want to be on there, you know. 904 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, not beyond this world is such bullshit where they 905 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: act like you, Oh, be honest, you have to be yourself. 906 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: This is the time now, twenty twenty three. It could 907 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: be free and be open, and it's the opposite. It's 908 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: the time for fear. 909 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: I post about things that matter, things that I care about, 910 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: and I post about things that help grow, you know, 911 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 2: and and so I think it's just you know, that'd 912 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: be my biggest thorn is just dealing with the anxiety 913 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: and drama social media. I feel bad for people like 914 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 2: Raquel and like Tom that you know they fucked up, 915 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: but you know, well and then they get crucified forever. 916 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: That's a fast to end. 917 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. And it's funny that you're 918 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: a person that I if I look at your social media, 919 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: I think you've you're You're a perfect example because you 920 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: are a person that I look at your social media. 921 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: It seems perfect, seems like you don't care at all 922 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: and you're just natural at it and everything goes your way. 923 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: And then you tell me this and it actually makes 924 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: me feel like you're human, and wow, it's happening to 925 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: you too, because if it's happening to you, a person 926 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: that looks like you've got, it's so locked and it's 927 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: so perfect, and you're just that guy that like everything 928 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: works out for it. Not belittling your experiences, just meaning 929 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: you post something it looks cool to millions of people 930 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: like it, and you're good looking and you're working out 931 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: and it's perfect, Like that's what I see. So now 932 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: that I hear that there's anxiety behind it, you know, 933 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it makes me feel better 934 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: because misery doesn't love company, but it's relatable. So I 935 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing that because I really do get it. 936 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: It's frightening. You're the best, So it's thank you for 937 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: doing this. I good luck with the show. And your 938 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: book is amazing everyone by it. It's really insightful and 939 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: well written and I can't wait to see what happens next. 940 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. 941 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciate you. She's always good. Catch up 942 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: with you, Bethany, and thank you for having me on here. 943 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: You know, check out our show on Special Forces September 944 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 2: twenty fifth. Whatever you need for me, Bethany, I'm always here. 945 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: So likewise, Tyler's book is you deserve better, and you 946 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: do and the book is amazing. Thank you, Tyler. I 947 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to you again. 948 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, Talk to you soon, Have a good day. 949 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron is wonderful. I met him years ago. He 950 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: is I don't even like saying he's a pretty face, 951 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: because he's so much more than a pretty face. He's interesting, 952 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: he's textured, he's intelligent, he's well spoken, he thinks before 953 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: he speaks. He's methodical, he's a class act. He's a 954 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: family person. He's he's wonderful. I can't say a negative 955 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: thing about Tyler. He's just I really like him and 956 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: I will help him in any way. Like team Tyler 957 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: Cameron all day long. And I would love to have 958 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: a son like that, Like that's amazing. He's wonderful.