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Speaker 1: the draft is in two weeks, so what do we

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Speaker 1: Cayler Murray, Colt McCoy, and zach Ertz. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode six forty two, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Food Baker, What Heart? What print? This

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Speaker 1: ten half of five peas in again, So for Harry Magic. Whoa,

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Speaker 1: here's Craig griolou So two weeks from today, as we

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Speaker 1: I think the longer this goes, maybe this is every year,

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Speaker 1: targeted seventy two, seventy one, and sixty nine times, so

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Speaker 1: he was a part of that Colts offense and then

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Speaker 1: it just he just he got lost in the shuffle

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, but he is looking to kind of get

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Speaker 1: back into that offensive mix. But I bring up why

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Speaker 1: receiver because when you have eight picks and perhaps you

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Speaker 1: do lose the DeAndre Hopkins. The Cardinals this week, according

439
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Speaker 1: to reports, are having a top thirty visit with TCU

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Quittin Johnston, who is among the top two

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Speaker 1: top three wide receivers in this draft. Obviously not a

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Speaker 1: consideration at pick number three. But do you drop down

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Speaker 1: middle first round, late first round, early second round for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. No, sorry, carry on wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: the first round or second round. So for you, it's

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Speaker 1: not even It's not a first round consideration for me

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Speaker 1: at all. What about top of the second round. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this as someone who is obviously not watching

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Speaker 1: film in the same sense and evaluating players like a

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Speaker 1: scout or somebody in the front office. Like, let's make

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Speaker 1: that quite clear in an eye, because you're running the team,

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Speaker 1: so you have people doing your job. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I would take a wide receiver earlier than the third round.

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Speaker 1: I think depending on the players there, you have plenty

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Speaker 1: of needs in the trenches. Defensive tackle, interior offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: defensive end, cornerback. Those are all needs based on not

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Speaker 1: just the need, you know, looking at the players already

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Speaker 1: on this roster, looking at the depth in this draft class,

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Speaker 1: you have I feel like enough wide receivers at this

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Speaker 1: point where I feel like maybe you can find another

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Speaker 1: veteran with that size. Like I just I don't think

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Speaker 1: that this wide receivers draft class is deep enough to

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Speaker 1: where getting a wide receiver not in the first round

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Speaker 1: or top of the second round, I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: much of an immediate impact player they are going to make.

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Speaker 1: And to me, you have much greater needs to use

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Speaker 1: in the first round or second round, and really the

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Speaker 1: third round than a wide receiver. I agree with you

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Speaker 1: as far as needs the immediate needs, but with the draft,

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Speaker 1: it's also you're looking long term. First round draft pick

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Speaker 1: that's four years plus a fifth year option, second round,

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Speaker 1: third round, fourth round, and beyond. You get that player

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Speaker 1: for four years, and you look, if DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 1: not on this roster, Hollywood Brown, last year of his contract,

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, while he needs to be healthy, because we

476
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Speaker 1: really don't know what he's capable of doing, so you

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Speaker 1: don't have that wide receiver in the room that you

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Speaker 1: can say, oh yeah, two, three, four years out, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be our guy. At least right now. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of question mark. But to your point, no

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Speaker 1: wide receiver is, there's edge, there's defensive end, there's defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: there's offensive tackle, center, offensive guard, before and cornerback before

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Speaker 1: you get to wide receiver. But when you're the general manager,

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Speaker 1: as you are Danny with the Arizona Cardinals, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at that board and when your name is up there,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are on the clock, and you've got

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Speaker 1: your top one hundred or whatever it is, top one fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and you see that wide receiver who you have ranked

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Speaker 1: as the tenth best prospect. That's hard to hard to

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Speaker 1: move away from, even though you've got you know, whole here,

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Speaker 1: whole there, whole there, whole here. So I get all that,

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Speaker 1: and that's the discussions that are happening right now. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. That's a good point that I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'd probably put as much thought into as you have

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Speaker 1: of thinking more about the future at that wide receiver

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Speaker 1: spot specifically. I think for me, I'm just looking at

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Speaker 1: the year this team is coming off of and the

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Speaker 1: holes they have that I think looking at those other

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Speaker 1: spots fills both the immediate and long term leaves, so

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Speaker 1: you don't really find yourself in the same position that

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have found themselves in right now. That's the

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Speaker 1: interesting part of the draft of you find yourself in

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Speaker 1: a position of its drafting best player available or position

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Speaker 1: of need, and sometimes that fills both and sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And that is why I am glad i am not

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Speaker 1: the general manager of an NFL team. No offense to

507
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, because that is a pretty big decision to

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Speaker 1: be made, because you have to ask yourself this question.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's your franchise quarterback. Who's he throwing the ball too?

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Speaker 1: In three or four years from now? It's good a question,

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Speaker 1: not just wide receivers, like your tight ends. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Trey McBride. Can he be that number one tied

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Speaker 1: end when Zach Ertz decides to retire and spend time

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Speaker 1: with his family. Without sounding like I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: push things off, I just feel like you have so

516
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Speaker 1: many needs blasting right now. They are just like the

517
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Speaker 1: red light is shining in your face that it's like

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Speaker 1: not to put that on the back burner by any means,

519
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Speaker 1: but you just have so many other positions that you

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Speaker 1: are desperate to fill right now. You don't have a

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Speaker 1: center who's had any NFL sent her snaps except for

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Speaker 1: yelde Froholdt, who has I believe what four games. That's

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Speaker 1: a pretty big issue to me. Craig. Again, it doesn't

524
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Speaker 1: matter who Kyler is throwing the ball too. If they

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Speaker 1: can't get the ball. That's word for where what I

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Speaker 1: was going to say se same page right here, right

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Let's quickly touch on players that

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Speaker 1: we do know that are on this team, that are

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Speaker 1: under contracts with the Arizona Cardinals. Just some quick updates,

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Speaker 1: injury updates, because the offseason strength and conditioning program is underway. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is here. No, he's not participating with his teammates,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that he is in the building and

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Speaker 1: according to head coach Jonathan Gannon, right where he needs

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Speaker 1: to be in his rehab, I think is a huge

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Speaker 1: positive sign for this Cardinals team. Again, don't know when

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Speaker 1: we'll see Kyler on the football field, whether that's the

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Speaker 1: offseason training camp or week one, no idea, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that he is here around his teammates continue to

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Speaker 1: rehab great sign. And this is phase one. This is

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Speaker 1: just workout so offense is working out with offense, defense

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Speaker 1: is working out with defense, and they're doing some strength

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Speaker 1: and conditioning work out on the field as well. But

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Speaker 1: there's no helmets, they're not practicing by any means, and

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Speaker 1: this is all voluntary. Like I gave this caveat on

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground, I'd like to share it to that, and

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Speaker 1: this really goes in general. But just because whether that's

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Speaker 1: like us or team account, just because a specific player

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Speaker 1: is not being mentioned or they're not shown in a

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Speaker 1: video does not mean that they're not here. And a

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Speaker 1: reminder that this is the time that these players get

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Speaker 1: to make up and be around their family. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of them don't even spend the off season in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: And that's not just the Cardinals, that is every team

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Speaker 1: in the ENAF felt you're not going to find a

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Speaker 1: team where all the players stay. They have people that

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Speaker 1: they trust and have been working out with for years,

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Speaker 1: and it's in their home state and they get to

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Speaker 1: be around their family. So just because they're not first

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Speaker 1: of all, just because they're not in a video or

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Speaker 1: not being talked about, it doesn't mean they're not here.

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Speaker 1: And even if they're not here, doesn't mean they're not

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Speaker 1: working out and doing what they need to do. This

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Speaker 1: is all voluntary. This is phase one of the workouts.

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Speaker 1: But it is great. You're right to see these players

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Speaker 1: get back together, get to work with the new strength

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Speaker 1: and conditioning in sports medicine staff. To see Kyler, Murray

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, who aren't doing the workouts but are going

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Speaker 1: through rehab here feels good. Football is inching closer at

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Speaker 1: this point. And who's to say if you were not

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Speaker 1: spotted or seen on Monday when the excuse me, on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday when the offseason program began. But you're here Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Friday the rest of the time. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: down there every single day taking attendance. So to your point, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's if you don't see in the photo galleries, of

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Speaker 1: the video, whatever, or on social media posts, doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they're not here. That this might not be spotted on

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Speaker 1: that given day. But you bring up zach Ertz had

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Speaker 1: a chance to hear from him. He is well on

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Speaker 1: his way to perhaps being ready week one after tearing

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Speaker 1: his ACL and undergoing surgery in November. But it was

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Speaker 1: interesting to hear him say, yeah, week one is the goal.

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Speaker 1: But he wants to be able to practice during training

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Speaker 1: camp and not just say all right, it's week one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I had a couple of days of practice leading

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Speaker 1: up to the game versus late August. I think he

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Speaker 1: wants to get I don't know how many days, but

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Speaker 1: he wants to be on that football field and training

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Speaker 1: camp with the goal of week one and not step

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Speaker 1: foot for the first time on the field with his

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Speaker 1: teammates in a practice setting here at the Dignity Health

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Training Center. He wants to do that at

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Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium during training camp. Well, that makes complete

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Speaker 1: sense to me. You want to get back out there

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Speaker 1: and practicing football, I would imagine feels very different than

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Speaker 1: just going through rehab and feeling okay. And I think

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Speaker 1: that ties in really nicely with what head coach Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon and a few times he's talking to the media

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Speaker 1: has already brought up a handful of times, and that

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Speaker 1: is making sure that players are not just physically but

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Speaker 1: also mentally ready to return. And his words with the

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Speaker 1: media this week, he reminded us that the players are

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Speaker 1: going through car crashes every week, that's what's happening to

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Speaker 1: their bodies, and so when you're also coming off an injury.

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Speaker 1: You want to make sure that the player trust themselves

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Speaker 1: and trust their body that they can go one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily just something that you can say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll do that, and it's going to be that simple,

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Speaker 1: especially coming off a significant injury like ERTs and Murray

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Speaker 1: with those acls and having to miss so much time,

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Speaker 1: and that recovery takes a long time on average, you know,

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Speaker 1: a shorter recovery is what roughly ten months. That's still

613
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Speaker 1: a long time. So to get back out there and

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Speaker 1: practice football, I'm sure feels very different. I like the

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Speaker 1: fact that they are making it very clear that they're

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Speaker 1: going to take that mental side of things in a

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Speaker 1: consideration to make sure that the player feels comfortable and

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Speaker 1: they're being put out there in a position to be successful.

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Speaker 1: And that mental side is something that I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people and I'll put myself in that

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Speaker 1: category as well. Sometimes don't always think about or when

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Speaker 1: you look at a timetable four to six weeks, four

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Speaker 1: to six months, whatever it is for whatever injury, You're right, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am healed physically, but am I hesitant when I'm

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Speaker 1: going out on the football field to do football activities.

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Speaker 1: Do I have the confidence to be able to do

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Speaker 1: what I could do prior to the injury? And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what a lot of people think or point

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Speaker 1: to with Kyler Murray especially, is heki Benny? Is he

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Speaker 1: going to be as free wheeling when things don't go

631
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Speaker 1: well the pocket breaks down, he takes off and runs immediately.

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Speaker 1: It's what sets him apart. But now with this first

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Speaker 1: significant injury that he has suffered early in his career,

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Speaker 1: how does he adjust? Does he adjust? And that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have an answer to that. I don't have an

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Speaker 1: answer to that, and we're not going to know until

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Speaker 1: we actually see him on the football field. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't have a problem with being told by

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff that there is no timetable for his return.

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Speaker 1: And I know people don't like to hear my answer

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Speaker 1: and that and I understand why it is important to

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Speaker 1: ask that question. I do, but it's not fair for

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Speaker 1: the players to go out and put on the record

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Speaker 1: this is the timetable for them to return, because you

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. They can do everything right,

646
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: they can work closely with the training staff, and they

647
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: can Everyone who has a hand in the rehab process

648
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: can do the right thing, and everybody's body responds differently,

649
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: and same with the mind. And I like the fact

650
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: that we're not having a hard timetable set for your

651
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback to return to where he feels like he

652
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: is under pressure, so that if he doesn't return by

653
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: the timetable that is set, well, suddenly he's lazy and

654
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play, and he just wants to

655
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: get money without actually doing the work, and all these

656
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: things that we know people are going to say about him.

657
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I like not putting that hard timetable on Kyler Murray

658
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Speaker 1: so you can actually let him progress the way that

659
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Speaker 1: he needs to and rehab and be ready to go

660
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent physically and mentally when that time comes.

661
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Speaker 1: It can be frustrating for the media the fans when

662
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Speaker 1: you don't know when a player may return. Yet at

663
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Speaker 1: the same time, if you do put that time table

664
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Speaker 1: and it goes a day a week past that, you're like, Okay,

665
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Speaker 1: well what happened, Well, nothing happened. My body heals differently

666
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Speaker 1: than your body heals, and maybe I'm not quite ready.

667
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Speaker 1: I always like the fact that yeah, if it's an

668
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Speaker 1: athlete says, you know what, I'm feeling good, all right,

669
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Speaker 1: as the trainer or whomever, the doctor come back to

670
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Speaker 1: me in four days, because now all of a sudden,

671
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: it's you're giving that player more time mentally, not physically,

672
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Speaker 1: but going back to that mental conversation to make sure

673
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Speaker 1: that they are ready to go back on that football field.

674
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Speaker 1: No one wants to rush, because when you rush, that's

675
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: when you suffer a setback or you injure reinjure something else,

676
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: and then that puts you on the shelf for maybe

677
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season or even get on the

678
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Speaker 1: football field. Yeah, I mean that's that's and that's true

679
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Speaker 1: with all injuries. Not to put my dad on blast,

680
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: but I think like my dad's had like major like

681
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Speaker 1: back surgeries, and like think about like anyone who's listening

682
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Speaker 1: if you've had any of that. Like some weeks, you

683
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: go through the process, you get surgery, you go through

684
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: physical therapy, you do what you need to do, you

685
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: feel great, and then other weeks it's like, oh, like

686
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: feel a little more sore. I don't feel as great

687
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Speaker 1: this week, Like I'm going to slow things down like

688
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: that's normal. I think it's so easy to forget that

689
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Speaker 1: these athletes, in large part to athletes like Buddha Baker

690
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: who have special blood or healing powers, that at the

691
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Speaker 1: end of the day, like they are still people who

692
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Speaker 1: are recovering from physical injuries, and while we love to

693
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: see them week after weeks, sometimes that's just not feasible

694
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Speaker 1: with the injuries they're recovering from. The one player that,

695
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Speaker 1: according to JG is ready to go and ready to

696
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Speaker 1: go right now, and that is quarterback Cult McCoy, who,

697
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Speaker 1: again we still do not know what happened. We were

698
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Speaker 1: told by owner Michael Bidwall on the Day Patch podcast

699
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: back in February that Colt would be limited this offseason

700
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Speaker 1: due to an undisclosed injury, but apparently whatever that injury

701
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Speaker 1: is will not keep Colts off the field this offseasonally

702
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Speaker 1: sess the expectation now, which is good because if you

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Speaker 1: don't have Kyler Murray now all of a sudden, are

704
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Speaker 1: all eyes going to be on David Blow this entire

705
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Speaker 1: offseason and into training camp to be maybe your week

706
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Speaker 1: one's daughter if Kyler is not back. The quarterback situation

707
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Speaker 1: is very intriguing to me. Is the plan to just

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Speaker 1: have a competition between Colton McCoy and David Blow, and

709
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Speaker 1: which Colton McCoy would likely win that competition, and he

710
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Speaker 1: is your backup quarterback, your starting quarterback for the first

711
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Speaker 1: roughly four ish weeks that Kyler Murray is expected to

712
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Speaker 1: miss next season. I think I would be okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I think I would need to see how the rest

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Speaker 1: of the offense well look, because there's a chance that

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Speaker 1: you could still be missing some significant pieces. I think

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Speaker 1: i'd be okay with Colton McCoy. The question is, did

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Speaker 1: they resign David Blow with the thought that you're going

718
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Speaker 1: to find and they likely will either draft late or

719
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Speaker 1: sign after the draft another young quarterback and they'll fight

720
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Speaker 1: for a spot in the depth chart. Is the plan

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Speaker 1: to have a quarterback the year starter for those first

722
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Speaker 1: couple weeks without Kyler Murray who's not on the roster.

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Speaker 1: It's intriguing. I think there's a couple of questions there

724
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Speaker 1: of like how is the rest of the league going

725
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: to shake out? But I think of this offense, you

726
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: can really have a strong offensive line set, whether that

727
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: is so the draft or veterans you're going to sign

728
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: later on, depending on what you do with the wide

729
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: receiver situation and where do you DeAndre Hopkins is playing

730
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Speaker 1: in this league assuming you have zach Ertz back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of factors, but I think if you

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Speaker 1: can kind of get things under control offensively, I think

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Speaker 1: I would feel okay with Colton McCoy as you're starting

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Speaker 1: QB for the first couple of weeks. The question was

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Speaker 1: asked to JG on Tuesday about would it be Colts

736
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Speaker 1: and Blow battling for the backup position? Backup to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You give a great coach's answer quote everything is a competition,

738
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Speaker 1: which basically shut down any conversations or follow ups that

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Speaker 1: you could have with that answer. So, yes, a first

740
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Speaker 1: year head coach, but a very veteran response from Jonathan Gannon.

741
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Speaker 1: But we'll keep asking these questions because it's the same

742
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Speaker 1: questions burd Gang that we have here on Cardinals Cover two.

743
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Speaker 1: Going back to zach Ertz, though, before we exit stage left,

744
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Speaker 1: so to speak, I'm gonna say this, and I believe

745
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Speaker 1: Danny you'll agree with me. I find that hard to believe.

746
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Speaker 1: If Ertz is going to take credit for John Ram's

747
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: master's win, then I see why no reason why our

748
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Speaker 1: own Danny Serek cannot take credit for the starts of

749
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks. Please explain for our young and old listeners. Sure,

750
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Speaker 1: I had said that before baseball season started, I wanted

751
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Speaker 1: to try to get back into liking baseball. I love

752
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: going to baseball games in person, don't really enjoy watching

753
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: them on TV. They've been a little slow, and I

754
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: know there's a pitch clock now. And at one point

755
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: in my career I worked in baseball. I worked, I

756
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: worked baseball games. And so when you're editing and you're

757
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: already like a pretty men baseball fan and you're working

758
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: like a West Coast game that's delayed or an extra innings,

759
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're working thirteen or fourteen hours editing every

760
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: single pitch kind of doesn't make you really love baseball

761
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: that much more when you didn't have a big love

762
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: for it to begin with. So I took a break

763
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: and I said, it now is the time then going

764
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: to get back into liking baseball. I went to a

765
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Speaker 1: spring training game, which was a lot of fun out

766
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Speaker 1: in Mesa to see the Cubs play, and I went

767
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Speaker 1: to the Diamondbacks home opener, which was a blast. The

768
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: roof was open, the weather was beautiful. And while I

769
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: have been doing the best I can to keep up

770
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: with the team, you know, following them on social media,

771
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I now have the MLB up on my phone. I'm

772
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: not vacation right, I'm not really paying too close attention,

773
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: but I'm trying. I'm not really watching a lot of

774
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: baseball on TV quite yet, but I am making an effort,

775
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to do a little bit with the

776
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. I couldn't really decide of like, if I'm

777
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: going to try and get back into liking baseball, which

778
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: of the two teams do I go on? The National

779
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: League team one American League team? You're fine? Oh they're indifferent? Yes,

780
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: Oh okay, then that's fine. See I'm learning. See this

781
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: is I'm just taking in all this new knowledge. But

782
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: I am making an effort, and I believe the diamond

783
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Backs are doing pretty well in the standings. Correct they are.

784
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: And even though you were at the home opener and

785
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: they lost that they did your presence has spurred this

786
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: team to a five and two records since the home opener,

787
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: so I just shouldn't go anymore. And an eight and

788
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: five record overall, they leave the National League West and

789
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: they have the fifth best record in all of baseball.

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: No kidding, go diamond Backs. See whatever you touch turns

791
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: to gold. Oh, Craig, Oh, well, can we get that

792
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: for the open for next season for the radio shows? Please?

793
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: Whatever happens come week one, Kyler Murray, who knows? Zach

794
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: Ertz who knows? But Danny and I yes, we will

795
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: be ready for Week one and that opening for the

796
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals kickoff show. Who knows what our fine producer

797
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: will put in that open. I'm scared. That's what I've

798
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: learned from last year is that nothing I say is safe,

799
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: even when we're just chit chatting before. That's when most

800
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: of the funny stuff comes out of that Almo likes

801
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: to use and like the radio show opens are not

802
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: even things I'm saying when we are recording a show.

803
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: It's when he's pressed record unbeknownst to me, and I'm

804
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: just chatting away with you guys. It's fascinating. I'm glad

805
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: you find it fascinating. Craig, I enjoy it. I gotta

806
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: say anything else so you'll be you know that. That's

807
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: so we can get on that pregame open. No, are

808
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Speaker 1: you done? So? Okay? I might Okay, sure, I guess

809
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm done. Wrap it up, Craig, all right, because Danny

810
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: said so. On that note, we'll put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday Pride,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to

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Speaker 1: the aforementioned executive producer, Joe Mama Andro for Danny Surrek,

814
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Speaker 1: I'm Greig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two,