1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: How are you welcome to Week four? Kind of nuts's 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: week four the NFL already? He is petfistmores. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm a paron. 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: We're back to talk early bets, survivor and look aheads 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: things you guys should fire on right now. Pat, good 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: to see you before we get to football. You're a 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: golf guy. This will come out and then the games 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: happened Sunday Monday. Yes, but the Ryder Cup begins USA 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: team Europe. What are we doing at bet pleage coming 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: up for this Ryder Cup. 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: I haven't even checked the odds this week, but I 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: locked in the Euros at plus one point fifty a 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: long time ago. They're just the better team, Matt, and 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 3: I know they've got, you know, the home course disadvantage, 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: and it's New York, so those fans are going to 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: be in full throats and probably not being too hospitable 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: to the Euros, but just top to bottom, I think 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: the Euros are a far better team than the US, 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: and I think they're going to win this week. 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, well we're here to talk football. 22 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Hopefully you're wrong. Go to but let's get into the 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Thursday games. Early bets and plays that we like before 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: we get to our plays. I just want to get 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: your take on Thursday because obviously it's a major divisional game. 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: It's a short week for both these teams, for the Eagle, 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: for the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Seak defense looked good, 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: but the Saints are just garbage. So I don't know 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: how much you take away from what happened on Sunday 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: with that game was thirty eight to three in the 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: first half. It was insane. I laid the seven with 32 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Seattle was the easiest bet of the week. What do 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: you make of Thursday night? 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a good game for both of us. 35 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: Never had to sweat the seven and a half at home. 36 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: The Seattle defense is really underrated, Matt, and like I 37 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: think the offense is pretty functional too, Like Clint Kubiak 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: has got the running game rolling pretty nicely. Sam Darnold's 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: still looking pretty competent, and he's gone up against a 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Cardinals defense that has really wrecked as far as the 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: secondary and injuries. So I think they're going to be 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: able to do some business against Arizona through the air. 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: I like Seattle in this game. 44 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I do too, and I'm not. I know. 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: It's one of those weird things in the NFC West 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: is sort of like you can bet on certain teams 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: to beat the other just given the history as to 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: what we have seen. But I like Sam Darnold, I 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: like this offense as to what it's looking like, and 50 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: the defense, like you mentioned, is playing really really well. 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: I'm just not there. I knew in the preseason. I 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: talked to so many people that were all over the 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals to win the West, to go over their win total, 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: like sleeper team in the conference. 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't get there. 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: And I haven't seen anything really this year that makes 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: me change my opinion of Arizona. So I'm with you. 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: I'll take the points. I'll take Seattle on the road 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: on Thursday up against Arizona. 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: All Right, bet number one for you. 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what your eye is going 62 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: to for the first play for Week four the NFL. 63 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Oh Humiliation is such a great motivator in the NFL matts, 64 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: and we saw that last week with the Vikings coming 65 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: off that horrible home loss to the Atlanta Falcons laying 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: it to the Bengals in a second straight home game. 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: I think we see a similar dynamic with the Falcons 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: this week against the Commanders. Second straight home game for 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: the Falcons, humiliated in the first one, losing thirty to 70 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: nothing of the Panthers. I mean, this has to be 71 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: a circle of wagons game for the Falcons, and I 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: think they're going to be upset after how poorly they 73 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: played in that game. This is a legitimate defense and 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: we saw it in Minnesota. Like I know, JJ mccarthen. 75 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: Everyone's going to lay the blame at his feet for 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: that game, but like this Falcons defense is pretty legitimate. 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: They have a pass rush now and they're good against 78 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: the run, were last year too, So I think they 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: hit the Commanders here. Right now, I'm seeing two and 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: a half or plus one twenty on the money line, 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: which I meant like a little more. The odds make 82 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: me think the Falcons. 83 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: Is a home dog. 84 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: That the that Vegas envisions Jayden Daniels coming back for 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: this one interesting and I agree. I mean, don't you 86 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: think the odds with the Falcons is a two and 87 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: a half point home dog make it seem like people 88 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: are expecting Jade Daniels to return. I would think he's 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: because if he's not, and you're getting the Falcons as 90 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: a home dog two and a half points against Marcus Mariotta, 91 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: then this is an absolute steal. But I like it anyway, 92 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: and I think I'm going to take the money line 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: at plus one twenty. 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, because I think it's here 95 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: on it we tape on Tuesday morning. So I think 96 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: it's a defensive mechanism for the books just in case 97 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: he is going to play, and there may be something 98 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: in the water out there that says Jade Danields is 99 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: going to play, So before they open up the limits, 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: let's test the waters. I think it's one of the 101 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: more underrated things about sports gambling that I think the 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: average folks don't understand that they think that a point 103 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: spread is a prediction of what the books think is 104 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: going to happen, and that's not what a point spread is. 105 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: A point spread is a prediction as to which side 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: the professionals are going to be on. So they're going 107 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: to test the waters. Oftentimes, when the limits get opened 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: up later in the week on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, 109 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: the books put up numbers as like a test flair. 110 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: This is a prime example of this. I think you're 111 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: absolutely right. Let's see what the what the pros think. 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: Let's put up one and a half first move on 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: Washington to two and a half. That tells you the 114 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: books got what they wanted. They got the information that 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: uh Dannis is playing. Let that number go up and 116 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: we could see a three point home dog for the Falcons, 117 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: and that's probably a good spot to jump in if 118 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: the number does get to three to take Atlanta. I'm 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: gonna look at a total and I will. We just 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: watched it last night. I know it's a short week, 121 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: but I don't like the Browns defense, and I like 122 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: the Browns defense on the road, and I really like 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: what we saw out of the offense yesterday from the Lions, 124 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: that running attack. And we'll talk about Baltimore later on 125 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: as to what they looked like and whether, you know, 126 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: we want to put more on the Lions are more 127 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: on the Ravens defense for what they saw last night. 128 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: But at home it's been pretty much an ATM machine. 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: When the Lions are at home with that number is 130 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: below fifty, you bet the over and it normally goes 131 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: and gets gets you to the window. It's forty five, Pat, 132 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: I just can't see this game being low scoring between 133 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: the Browns and Allions. 134 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: Our colleague Andrew Erickson does refer to Ford Field is 135 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: the cores field of the NFL. Mat Yeah, I mean 136 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: it is a short week for the Lions and maybe 137 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: it's sort of a letdown spot for them after the 138 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: big win against the Ravens. And I thought the Browns 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: defense looked pretty amazing against my Packers last week, but 140 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: then again, the Packers offensive line was kind of wrecked 141 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: by injuries. They had a couple of key guys Zach 142 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: Tom and Aaron Banks leave the game early in that 143 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: one that undoubtedly helped. 144 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: So I don't know if I'm going to bet this 145 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: one myself. 146 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't dislike the over here based on the trends, 147 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: and maybe the Browns are getting a little bit too 148 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 3: much credit for what they did to the Packers. In 149 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: the setting of this number, I did expect a slightly 150 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: higher number. I thought it was going to be forty 151 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: six or forty seven, So maybe there is some value here. 152 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to touch it myself, but if 153 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: I were going to play one end of it, I 154 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: like the over two. 155 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: All right, bet number two for you? Where are you 156 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: going here a Week five. 157 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: In Week four the NFL, speaking of the Green Bay Packers, 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: They've obviously had this game in Dallas circled on the 159 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: schedule for a while, the Micah Parson's homecoming game, and 160 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: as a kind of a bonus for it, Like I 161 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: don't like betting seven. 162 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: Point home dogs. 163 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Obviously that is a that automatically sets off red lights 164 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: and sirens. But obviously the defense is going to be 165 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: fired up. Micah Parsons is going to be motivated, the 166 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: Packers in general coming off that toast stubbing in Cleveland. 167 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are going to have their full 168 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: attention this week. And the Cowboys are beaten up. No 169 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: CD Lamb this week with his ankle injury. They're down 170 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: a couple of offensive linemen. Not the best time to 171 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: be down a couple of offensive linemen when you're trying 172 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: to block up Mikeah Parsons, you know, Like, I just 173 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: don't know if Dak Prescott can lean on George Pickens, 174 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: who it seemed like there were a few times in 175 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: that game against the Bears where Dak looked like he 176 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: expected Pickens to do something other than what he did. 177 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: So I don't know if he can just take over 178 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: as the lead receiver for that and after that, who 179 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: else do you have? Jalen Tolbert, Cavante Turp And I 180 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: just this is a really good spot I think for 181 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: the Packers, and I'm gonna lay the touchdown and take 182 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: them to win easily. 183 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I am nervous about this game. 184 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: You you said it in the open about bounce back 185 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: spots and everyone talking about how badly this Cowboys defense is. 186 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: And look, I don't know if they fix it in 187 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: a week, but Matt Eberflus has some worries about his 188 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: job in Dallas if this continues, because you can't expect 189 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott to score thirty five points a game like 190 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: they just their offense can score. 191 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: But like you mentioned, without Ceedee Lamb, they did not 192 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: do very much. 193 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: They ran the ball effectively in the first quarter, but 194 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: then they got behind and then things just really didn't 195 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: go the way they wanted to. And then once Lamb 196 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: went out, they couldn't do anything offensively. Their game plan 197 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: was shot and the Bears just were able to pin 198 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: their ears back and get after Dak Prescott. So I 199 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: do expect at a better effort of the Cowboys the 200 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: number worries me. 201 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: It's a big number. 202 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: That's a big number at you know, for for a 203 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: matchup in which Dallas really needs it, given what the 204 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: divis looking like. I mean, the Eagles could very well 205 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: have a monster lead in the division if the Cowboys 206 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: lose this game to the Packers. So this is one 207 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: of those like hinge games where like the season can 208 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: hinge on this performance and if you win or lose. 209 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: I've just seen this before with the Packers. You know, 210 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: Matt Lafoor gets off to a red hot start and 211 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they just start to fall all 212 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: over themselves and they lose to the Browns, they lose 213 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: to the Cowboys, and just everything kind of falls apart 214 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: in the middle part of the year and then they 215 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: bounce back later. Lafloor is great in weeks one, two, 216 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: and three. Once you get outside of the first three weeks, 217 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: things start to get a little bit difficult for Matt 218 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Lafleur because the other coaches figured out what he's doing. 219 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, wait, I'm worried about that number one thing. 220 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: I'll add Matt, like, I know, we're kind of trying 221 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: to reckon with what the Dallas Cowboys are, and maybe 222 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: in that Week one loss to the Eagles where they 223 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: play the defending champions close throughout, people thought that maybe 224 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: the Cowboys could be a playoff contender. I think we're 225 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: trying to decide whether they're that or just really bad team. 226 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: And we saw the really bad team come out against Chicago. 227 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: I think they're closer to being a really bad team 228 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: than a true playoff contender. Like their defense, I know 229 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 3: they get Deron Bland back, which will help with the 230 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: pass coverage a little this week. I still think that's 231 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: a really, really bottom tier defense. 232 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. 233 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, My concern is that if the Packers do not 234 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: get after Dak, and if Dak can move the ball, 235 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, primetime home dogs in the NFL, generally speaking, 236 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: are a pretty good ticket to take to grab onto 237 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: versus laying points. 238 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I know why the number where the number is. 239 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: I mean, anyone with eyes can see that the Cowboys 240 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: defense is garbage. The question is can the offense keep 241 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: up in prime time turnovers? I mean that interception that 242 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: Jordan Loved threw that costs the game. 243 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: There. 244 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: You can talk about the block kicks all you want, 245 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: and I lost two Survivor pools on the Packers loss. 246 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I lost my bet, my teaser bet on the Packers, 247 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: Like I did not think they would lose that football game. 248 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: And then it was ten to three and the pick, 249 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: and I was like, you gotta be kidding me, Like 250 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: this is just so, that's the worry. The turnovers can 251 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: change a football game. And if if Love keeps on 252 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: throwing picks, this could be this could be tough everything. 253 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was just gonna say, I do think 254 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: that if it weren't for the home dog on national television, like, 255 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: I think this line might be nine. 256 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: That's kind of why I think there's value here. 257 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: It could be. 258 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on papers, Packers are a much better 259 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: football team than a scary bet. 260 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: It's a scary bet. 261 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: Though you're right, I am also selfishly hoping that you're 262 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: wrong because I want to bet the Packers to win 263 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. And if the Packers lose this game 264 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: and they open up two and two, I'm going to 265 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: get a really good price, and I'm going to get 266 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: a better price than what I would have gotten in 267 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: the preseason on the Packers to win the super Bowl. 268 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: So I want to bet that. I like your team 269 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: a lot. I think they got some really nice pieces. 270 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: When the offensive line's healthy, I think they have some 271 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: really nice pieces. So selfishly, I want them to lose 272 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: this game so that I can bet them to win 273 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: the super Bowl because I do think this might be 274 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur's year, because I really do like their pieces. 275 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: It's just kind of a bump in the road for them, 276 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: as every NFL season will have. Everyone's gonna hate my 277 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: second pick, and I'm okay with it because everyone says 278 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: you cannot bet the games overseas. Do not bet, do 279 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: not bet, do not bet. You talked about it the 280 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: Vikings bouncing back. I watched the entire Patriots Steelers game. Okay, 281 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: that is one of the most insane wins for a 282 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: team that I've ever seen in my life, who was 283 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: dominated in every facet of the game. The Patriots had 284 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: four fumbles and one interception, and that's why they lost. 285 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: They fumbled two times at the goal line to the 286 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: Packers Aaron Rodgers, and that offense didn't look dangerous. That 287 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: defense was giving up huge plays all over the place. 288 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: And I look at the Vikings and how they played 289 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: last week against the Bengals and defensively. I'm like Aaron 290 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: Rodgers is in trouble. I don't care if. I don't 291 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: care if this game is in Ireland or not. I 292 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: don't care where I think it's I think the number 293 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: being two and a half is simply because it is 294 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: in Ireland. And so everybody is like, oh, you can't 295 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: bet those games overseas because they get wonky. You know, 296 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: body clock is all messed up. And I don't care. 297 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: It's Kevin O'Connell. It's a team that is rolling against 298 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh Steelers team that I don't think is very good. 299 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: And look at the Patriots aren't very good either, but 300 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: the Steelers aren't very good. 301 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the two and a half. 302 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 2: I get less than a field goal here, pat I'm 303 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: taking the Vikings on the early morning slate on Sunday. 304 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: I think the only way they don't win this game 305 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: is if Carson Wentz is terrible. And you know, he 306 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: was competent against the Bengals and that's all they need 307 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,119 Speaker 3: him to be. He gets Jordan Addison back from suspension 308 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: this week, so he's got that dynamic trio of Jefferson, 309 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,239 Speaker 3: Addison and Hockinson. 310 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 311 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Matt, Like, the Steelers could very well 312 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: be zero to three right now. They should have lost 313 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: to the Jets. They absolutely should have lost to the 314 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: Patriots if the Patriots hadn't kept shooting themselves in the 315 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: foot inside the ten yard line. So yeah, I mean 316 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: like this, Steelers have the most expensive defense in the 317 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: league and it has arguably been the most disappointing defense 318 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: in the league. 319 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Like, they are just not very good right now. 320 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: And the numbers climbing about betting it early. 321 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: You know, most are at two and a half, but 322 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: South Point here in Vegas has gone to three this morning. 323 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: So is Fanatics, so is hard Rock. 324 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean, so we're seeing early money coming on the Vikings, 325 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: and I think that's the that's the right side. I 326 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: would take it before it gets to three. We talk 327 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: about betting early. This is not my pick to bet early, 328 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: but this can classify as betting it early, laying the 329 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: two and a half versus laying three or higher. 330 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: Yep, I'm with you, Okay, bet number three for you 331 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: on the. 332 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: Week, Broncos, I'll give up the touchdown of the Bengals. 333 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: Bengals are a train wreck, like they never should have 334 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: been two and oho, we saw like the one good 335 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: thing the Bengals had going for them this season was 336 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: the passing game with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and 337 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: t Higgins, and even that was kind of in jeopardy 338 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: of being thwarted by the offensive line problems. Well now 339 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: they don't have Joe Burrow anymore. Trey Hendrickson is about 340 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: the only thing the Bengals have going for them, and 341 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: he's a one man defense basically, like Denver's pretty legit. 342 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: I know they didn't throw their best punch in Week 343 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: one against the Titans. They've lost a couple of tough 344 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: games since then, but like we saw them go to 345 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: toe to toe with a really good Chargers team last week. 346 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: That was a game that was a coin flip. 347 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: Either team could have won that And the Denver defense 348 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: man like another tough spot for Jake Browning after getting 349 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 3: the Brian Flores. 350 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: Treatment last week. 351 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to fare much better against 352 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: this Denver d which you know, with personnel, they might 353 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: be the best defense in the league, not the Green 354 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: Bay Packers. So I think Denver handles business very easily 355 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: at home and covers the seven. Yeah, we talk about 356 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: survivor pools. This is my Survivor pick for the week. 357 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: I just if you haven't used the Broncos yet, I mean, 358 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: this is the team that I would use because I look, 359 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor without Joe Burrow is now eight and twenty 360 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: three straight up without him. So there are two coaches 361 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL that I believe that should not be 362 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: coaches in the NFL. Zach Taylor is one in Brian 363 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: Callahan is two, and so we will see if either 364 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: one of those are still the guy next year. Brian 365 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: Callahan might get tossed this season. I don't think they 366 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: would move off of Zach Taylor simply because the excuse 367 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: is built in without Joe Burrow. It's hey, I lost 368 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: my quarterback. What do you want? But you see, you know, 369 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell lose his quarterback. What does that team look like? 370 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: You see good coaches who can coach up, you know, 371 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: mediocre quarterbacks or average quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks and go and 372 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: win football games in the NFL with them. It may 373 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: be ugly, it may not be the way you want 374 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: to win in the playoffs, but you can find a 375 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: way to win. Not so much with Zach Taylor and 376 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: this Bengals team and without Joe Burrow, this team is lost. 377 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: And Denver, I think this is a get right spot 378 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: for the Denver Broncos here. I like your side. We'll 379 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: get to survivor picks here in just one second. But 380 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: my third and final I'm fading the Bears. I mean 381 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: here in Vegas. I get Vegas at a pick. I 382 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: get the Raiders at a pick them just basically to 383 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: win the game here against Chicago. 384 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: This is where I think. 385 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: The Bengals sorryry that the Bears have a problem because 386 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: of all the flowers being thrown at the feet of 387 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams that he's arrived. This team is unbeloved. I 388 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: think it was all the Cowboys. Okay, I think that 389 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: was all the Cowboys defense. I like Caleb on the 390 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: road though. In this spot for Vegas. After a really 391 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: bad performance against Washington, I was on the Commanders last week. 392 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was a bad matchup against Marcus Mariota, 393 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: who played very well for the Commanders. 394 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: It was a no show for Las Vegas and just. 395 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: Hear the ether here in the air here there's a 396 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: lot of frustration with the way the team performed and 397 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: I thought it was really possible because they went east coast, 398 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: West coast, east coast, when now they're back at home 399 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: on the West coast and they have a chance to 400 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: get right here. I like the Raiders to win, to 401 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: go two and two. I'm just not a very big 402 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: fan of this Bears team, and even after the win, 403 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: I still think the Raiders are the better football team. 404 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm kind of terrified by this game, Matt, Like I 405 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: just I feel like this one could go either way. 406 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: I kind of like the over more than I like 407 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: either side of it fair to be honest, because I 408 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: do think like the Raiders might have an even worse 409 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: defensive backfield than the Cowboys. 410 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: Like that is, they can stop the run, but against 411 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: the pass. 412 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: And I worry that, like now that Caleb seems to 413 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: have a little momentum on his side, does he just 414 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: pick this Raiders secondary apart. But at the same time, 415 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: the Bears have a lot of defensive problems to their own, Matt. 416 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: Their two best cornerbacks both injured. Some of their key 417 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: players in the front seven injured too. I think we 418 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 3: could see points. I just don't feel enough confidence in 419 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 3: the Raiders to take this. But I agree the spot 420 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: is probably a good one for them, with the Bears 421 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: coming in feeling a little fat and happy after that 422 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: went over the Cowboys. 423 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, opened up one and a half. It's been bet 424 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: to a pick. So the early money coming in here 425 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: on the Raiders. But also that could be a headfake. 426 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 2: I mean we talked about it a bit earlier, but 427 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: there are times when the pros will take a number 428 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: to drive it down to the number that they want 429 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: and then open it up and hammer the Bears. So 430 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: you know, the most limits Monday Tuesday is one thousand dollars, 431 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: so they'll put one thousand dollars down to move the 432 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: number to a pick, and then they'll go all in 433 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: when the when the limits are up to fifty thousand, 434 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: they'll come in and put fifty thousand dollars down on 435 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: the Bears to win the game. So that could be 436 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: a head fake move where the Bear is gonna get 437 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: the majority of the action late Raiders' money, early Bears 438 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: money late. But I just think the Raiders they need this, 439 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: They need to win their home games. They need to 440 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: quiet down the crowd here because Pete Carroll came in 441 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: with a lot of hype. Gino Smith has played like crap, 442 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: Like he's just played awful for this team so far, 443 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: and there's not much behind him to talk about. So 444 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: there's not like, hey, get the backup Briady to go. 445 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: But Ashjin Genti there's been big conversations about whether or 446 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 2: not he was the right pick for this team and 447 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: has he been a bust? The offensive line has looked 448 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: completely lackluster and not opening up holes at all, and 449 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: the receiving corps is, you know, somewhat questionable. So I 450 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: think this is just like Backs against the Wall got 451 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: a beatable team and the Bears, like you mentioned, coming 452 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 2: in with their secondary and overall defense, Raiders find a 453 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: w not pretty, but they find a way to win 454 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: the game on the pick. 455 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: All right, Survivor pools. 456 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: And as we go, guys through this, understand that your 457 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: own personal journey with a Survivor pool, we don't know 458 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: what teams you have used. So once you use a 459 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: team in Survivor, you can't use it twice. So if 460 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: we recommend teams that you've already used, well sorry, but 461 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: we're just gonna talk about the best, the most likely 462 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: if you have it available on the board, the most 463 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: likely team you guys can select. So for pat for you, 464 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: pat who gets picked? Who is your survivor selection for 465 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Week four? 466 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: It is? 467 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: For me personally, it's the Patriots. Matt. I'm trying to. 468 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to, like, I don't know, get a little 469 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: cute here, say keep my powder dry. I just think 470 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: this is there are only so many spots where you 471 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: can use the Patriots, And I think I like betting 472 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: on the home team that's been home for a week already, 473 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: So like their second straight home game. Yeah, which is 474 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: the Patriots coming off a disappointing loss in a game 475 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: they know they should have won where they totally outplayed 476 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: the Steelers. 477 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: We already talked about that. Now they get the Panthers. 478 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: After the Panthers good game, Like, I feel like the 479 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: Panthers obviously threw their best punch and the thirty to 480 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: nothing went over the Falcons after looking terrible in weeks 481 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: one and two. So can the Panthers play two really 482 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: strong games in a row? I have my doubts about that, Like, 483 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: I think the Patriots win this one pretty easily, but 484 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: the other options, like that Denver Bengals game looks great. 485 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: I just personally use Denver and all my Survivor pools 486 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: in week one, so not available to me, but like 487 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: that is the better percentage play. I think there are 488 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: gonna be other spots for the Broncos later in the season, 489 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: though obviously the Bills are the lowest hanging fruit here 490 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: at home against the Saints, I mean sixteen and a half. 491 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: If you're just playing a survive in a week five, 492 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: that's your pick. 493 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: But other than that, not a lot of like super tractive. 494 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: Maybe the Lions, Matt. 495 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: I just I do worry about the short week and 496 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: the letown spot with them, and you know, the Texans, 497 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: like they're coming off a bad loss, but it just 498 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 3: might not be any good. 499 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: I think so. 500 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: I think from a strategic From a strategic standpoint, I 501 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: think the Patriots are really crafty play, because when are 502 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: you going to use the Patriots? When when are you 503 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: looking to feel confident to put your whole Survivor contest 504 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: entry down on New England. This very well might be 505 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: the selection the time to go ahead and do so. 506 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: I like Denver if you have Denver available, But I 507 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: also think there's a strategy there, and I know it's 508 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: low hanging fruit, but there could be a strategic move 509 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: to just bet against the Saints every week and just 510 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: say hey, until they get into a situation where their 511 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: point spread is like three or four and there's a 512 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: chance they might win the game, and then maybe you 513 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: look off to somebody else. I mean, that's what I'm 514 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 2: going to do. I'm in a contest where I have 515 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: three entries. I lost two of them on that Packers loss, 516 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: and I was able to get I advanced from I 517 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: think I took Seattle to advance. I'm just gonna go 518 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: ahead and take whoever the Saints are playing for the 519 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: next like month and a half, Like, I'm just gonna 520 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: bet against New Orleans and take it and not worry 521 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: about the path or who they're playing, or you know, 522 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: when am I burning which team? Because New Orleans looks 523 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: completely incompetent, Like I don't know if Kellen Moore. I 524 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: know it's his first year, so maybe they say, hey, 525 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: don't worry about it, it's a pass. But yikes, Like 526 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: that was that was one of the worst games I've 527 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: ever watched. Offense and defense for an NFL football team 528 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: against Seattle. 529 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: And special teams. Matt, don't forget about the special teams. 530 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: They were pretty rough too. 531 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: Ninety five yard punt return to go up fourteen, nothing fumbles, 532 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: mistakes like just it looked like the bad News Bears 533 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: out there. It didn't look like an NFL football team 534 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: with New Orleans. So I don't think it's not something 535 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: you fix in a week, you know, when you're taking 536 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: on Buffalo. 537 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in just advancing. 538 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: You've got to get to Thanksgiving before you can worry 539 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: about path and who's left and whatnot. 540 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: So just survive in advanced. 541 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: If you're just gonna do that bet against the Saints, 542 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: take whoever's playing New Orleans and survivor pools and just hopefully, 543 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, there's not a lightning strike and New Orleans 544 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: beat somebody over the next couple of weeks. But I 545 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: really doubt it'll be Buffalo coming up this weekend. That 546 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: would be that would be something else to watch that. 547 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: All right? 548 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: And for yeah, I was just going to say, for 549 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: what it's worth, anyone with the bet against the Saints 550 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: strategy and survivor they go and buy in week eleven, 551 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: are you crutiful? You could ride that for quite a while. 552 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: And I don't believe the Saints play the Ravens this year, 553 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: and the Ravens have a pretty good matchup in Week 554 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: eleven against what's a road matchup. Well, you wouldn't like 555 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: this one because it's a divisional game. It's on the 556 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: road against the Browns. 557 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: But they always lost to the Browns, so they're gonna 558 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: have their attention, So it's no, no, no, sorry no, sorry, 559 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 2: they haven't played yet, Ravens. 560 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Browns haven't played yet. Sorry, that's not true. 561 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: Wait didn't they play in Week two? Is that the 562 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 4: Week two game? 563 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Those Week two right? Yeah, that was the Flacco game, right? Yes? Correct? 564 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: Or I yeah, okay, but yes, I would take so. 565 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't like it as a divisional game, but at 566 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: some point the Ravens defense is going to get figured out. 567 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: At some point we're going to see them actually look 568 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: competent from a defensive standpoint. 569 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: All right. 570 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: For bets, you would make right now, what numbers would 571 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 2: you fire on here on a Tuesday morning, because we 572 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: look like it looks like the numbers are going to move. 573 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to get the forty nine ers right now 574 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: at minus three against the Jaguars because right now things 575 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: are looking to be on track for brock Perty to 576 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: play in this game for the forty nine Ers come 577 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: back from his toe injury, right. I don't know if 578 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: the line reflects that yet, or maybe it does, and 579 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are getting knocked down a little 580 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: bit for having lost Nick Bosa. 581 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: That's a possibility. 582 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 3: The Jaguars do come in at two and one, but 583 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: it is a fraudulent two and one, Like this team 584 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: is not good man like that. My eyes were bleeding 585 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: from the Jaguars Texans game last week. 586 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: It was that bad a game. 587 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: Wars traveling cross country. Their passing game is just in 588 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: ruins right now. I mean, Brenton Strange is leading them 589 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: in receiving yardage. Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Junior not 590 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: on the same page at all. Brian Thomas Junior dropping balls. 591 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 4: I don't think. 592 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: They've Yeah, they haven't figured out the Travis Hunter usage. Like, 593 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: I don't know who to blame at this point for 594 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: the passing game. Was like, do we finally pinned on 595 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence and say he's just not the number one 596 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: overall pick he was supposed to be? 597 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 4: You know? 598 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: Is Brian Thomas Junior? Like how come he's not playing 599 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: as well as he did last year. Do we blame 600 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen at all? Or do we just skip Liam 601 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: Cohen and go straight to passing game coordinator Shane Waldern. 602 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 3: Everyone likes to blame Shane Waldern for everything, so. 603 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: Whatever it is. 604 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: Like, I like a Robert solid defense, even without Nick 605 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: Bosa against this Jaguars passing game, I think they're going 606 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: to make things really hard on him. In the forty 607 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: nine ers, you know, with perty Back and Christian McCaffrey, 608 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: they're going to generate enough offense against this Jaguars defense. 609 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: So minus three, I think it's a steal. I think 610 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: if Purdy is when Purdy comes back, I think this 611 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: is going up to like four and a half. 612 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Five So for me, and this is why it's kind 613 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: of crazy to tape on a Tuesday. While we have 614 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: been talking, the move has come on the Chargers, and 615 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: it has come aggressively. Here on a Tuesday, we're already 616 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: just six and a half at certain books after being 617 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: at five and a half, which is where I wanted it, 618 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: because it was five and a half before we started 619 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: taping thirty minutes ago, and now it's six or six 620 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: and a half. So the professionals agreed with me that 621 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: the New York Giants are gone awful and the New 622 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: York Giants may be starting Jackson Dart which against Jim 623 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: Harbaugh and that defense good luck. 624 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: That's a really bad situation. 625 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole offense is basically cam skataboo and 626 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: that's it for the Giants, so nobody else really to 627 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: jump up and down about for them. It looks like 628 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's going to be the one that gets the 629 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: blame for the lack of offense. 630 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: But it's the defense on top of that and played 631 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: very well. 632 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: I if you can find a six, jump on it, 633 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: I would take the Chargers minus six, but do not 634 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 2: lay seven. I don't want to go there. But if 635 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: you can get it at six, I think the charges 636 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: of the right side. I hate laying points on the road. 637 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: But the Giants are a disaster. I talked about it 638 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: all summer and people push back on me. The Giants defense, 639 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: the Giants. This the Giants stink, and the Giants are 640 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: gonna stink all year. So you know it under five 641 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: and a half with their and their schedule just as brutal. 642 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: I mean, they may be a halfway decent football team 643 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: if they weren't playing the schedule that they're playing. But 644 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: they're playing a horrific run and they lost last week. 645 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: The Cowboys game was a game they should have won, 646 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: and they lost that one. So now you get the 647 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: boo birds and you get all the nastiness. It's a 648 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: it's actually a bad thing the games at home because 649 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: New York fans are gonna go there wanting to boo 650 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: the team if the Charges get out to a decent lead. 651 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: And Jim Harbaugh's played well on the East Coast, he 652 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: hasn't been one of those coaches that haven't had his 653 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: team ready to go in the West Coast. 654 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: So I would lay the five and a half. 655 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: I also really like the two and a half the 656 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: Vikings right now, lay the two, and you know, lay 657 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: two and a half in Ireland before it goes to three. 658 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: Those are the two plays that I would make early. 659 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: What do you make of the Chargers in the Giants bet? Yeah? 660 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: I mean generally, I don't like betting against teams coming 661 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: off kind of a one sided loss, coming off a 662 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: bad game, going against a fat and happy team, Like 663 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: I don't like betting on the fat and happy team there. 664 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: But the condition for that spot to bet against the 665 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: team coming off the bad loss is thinking the team 666 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: that is coming off the bad loss is good enough 667 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: to do something about it. And I don't think that's 668 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: the case with the Giants here. I mean, like, maybe 669 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: the defense at some point gets it together and realizes 670 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: they have Dexter Lawrence and Brian Burns and Kevon Thibodeau 671 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: and Abdul Carter, but like they've not played very well 672 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: so far. Maybe Cam Skataboo is just so freaking good 673 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: that he uplifts this entire offense, but I don't know 674 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: about that, and this is a pretty good Chargers defense. 675 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Like I like Scataboo a lot and think he's gonna 676 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: give this offense a big lift, but not that big 677 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: left to fix the passing game. So yeah, I'm kind 678 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: of with you, Matt, But it is one of those things. 679 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: There's no way I'm touching it at seven. I'm not 680 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: even sure I'm touching it at six and a half. 681 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: At six, I'm interested at six. 682 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. Six and a half seven is well. 683 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: Given the move on Tuesday, we might be looking at 684 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: a number that's you know, seven and a half or 685 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: higher by the time we get to kick off, could 686 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 2: be you know, if the books just go all right, 687 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: there's no resistance. 688 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: What number? How high do we have to put this? 689 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: How high of a number do we need to get 690 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: people to actually go ahead and be a part of this. 691 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, Matt, what what do 692 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: you think if the Giants announced today on Tuesday that 693 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: they are starting Jackson Darts? 694 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: Do you think that moves things towards the Chargers? Oh, 695 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: it becomes eight and a half, you think so instantly? 696 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, instantly goes to eight and a half or nine, 697 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: Like I mean Harbaugh's defense against a rookie. No, no way, 698 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: that's a horrible matchup. 699 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: That's why I mean I said it all preseason. 700 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: I was like, if they decide to play Jackson Dart 701 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: in the first half of their schedule, like, maybe you 702 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: play him against New Orleans in week six. I think 703 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: it is they have the they have New Orleans, Like, 704 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: maybe that's the game you play him, But you don't 705 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: play him against the Chargers. I mean, no, that's uh, 706 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: that's agree bad matchup. 707 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: I know everyone wants to see Dart, but I know 708 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: that the Giants have this gauntlet early in this season, 709 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: and I think so it's you know, they've already faced 710 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: the Commanders and the Cowboys not so hard. But then 711 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: Chiefs Chargers. Oh, it's actually the Saints next week. But 712 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: then after that it's Philly, Denver, Philly. 713 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, maybe you play him against the 714 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: Saints if you want to have him start a game 715 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: and get some get some experience, let him, Let him 716 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: play and see what he looks like against the Saints, 717 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: but not against the Chiefs defense. 718 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Well boy, Chargers defense. 719 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 2: Uh no, Eagles, No, like you're no, this is not 720 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: where you want to start a rookie. 721 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you want to, you either do 722 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: it in week five, or you wait till after that 723 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: second Philly game in week nine or whatever, see if 724 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: you can get through the first half of the season 725 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: with Ross. 726 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: But then again, like Dable, and maybe the one thing 727 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: that could save. 728 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: Dabel's job is if play the rookie, play the rookie 729 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: and he shows promise. 730 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: That's like the one thing. 731 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: It's very very true, guys. 732 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: This podcast being brought to you by our friends at 733 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: hard Rock Bet. 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Concerned about gambling in Florida called one eight 750 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 5: eight eight admit it In Indiana, if you are something 751 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 752 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: one eight hundred and nine with it gambling problem called 753 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: one hundred Gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois in New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. 754 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: In closing pat Any. Final preview thoughts for a week 755 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: four What do you look at? What's the game you're 756 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: looking forward to the most. 757 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: Obviously for selfish reasons. I'm excited about the Micah Parsons 758 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: homecoming in Dallas. Yeah, but yeah, it's a pretty interesting slate. 759 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: I think the game that has the most intrigue for 760 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: me is maybe that Cults Rams game, Like, just how 761 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: real are the Colts? I think we're going to find 762 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: out for sure. You have an early leaning on that one. 763 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: I think it's Rams minus three at home. 764 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 765 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: I like the Rams, but I want three. I don't 766 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: like three and a half. So I want to watch 767 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: that number to see where it goes, because I think 768 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: I think that's a I'm not there yet, okay with 769 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: the Colts. 770 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm just not. They're off to a red hot start. 771 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Shane Steichen's coach of the Year up to this point, 772 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has been incredible. Just not there yet where 773 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay points or even get involved with a 774 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 2: short number with them, you know, against a Rams team 775 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 2: that Sean McVay, how do you blow a nineteen point 776 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: lead against the Eagles like I got's just inexcusable and 777 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: then the block kick return for a touchdown and just 778 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: the most. 779 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, bad beat of bad beats. 780 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: If you were on the Rams taking the points a 781 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 2: three and a half on the road against the Eagles, 782 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: they should have won that football game. So at an 783 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: angry Rams team that I think the Colts are going 784 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: up against, it might not be a good situation. I mean, 785 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to bet it most likely, but for 786 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: me it's Ravens Chiefs because one of those two teams 787 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: will be one in three coming out of that game, 788 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: which is crazy. And if the Chargers win, like I 789 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: think they're going to win, all of a sudden, Look, 790 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: we're only four weeks into this season, but the division 791 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: might be done in the West, like Chiefs might be 792 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: looking at wild card to get into the postseason if 793 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: they open up one. 794 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 3: In three, yeah, and the Ravens open up as what 795 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: like a two point road favorite. 796 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that number currently is two and a half or three. 797 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: Money as we're talking, it's moving. It's now three. Caesars 798 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: is at three, DraftKings is at three. South Points at three, 799 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: so it's two and a half open, but the money 800 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: is coming on on the Ravens. 801 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: It's hard to argue against that because I don't know 802 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: if the return of Xavier Worthy this week, if in 803 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: fact he's back, Like, I don't think that fix is 804 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 3: a Chiefs offense that looks pretty broken right now. 805 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: But the Ravens defense though. 806 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: Also pretty broken right now. 807 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: One hundred and eleven points in three weeks. Like, what 808 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: is going on with the Ravens. 809 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: And the run defense? Yikes? 810 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: Not good at all? A back, a gap and B gap. Guys, 811 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: what are we doing? 812 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: Like? 813 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: This is the Baltimore Ravens are getting pushed around at 814 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: the point of attack. That's yeah, that's not normal for 815 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: a Harbaugh coached team. 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