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Speaker 2: My ex cheating on me twice and said I was

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Speaker 1: I'm Riley John. What should they do? Dude? Leave? I

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Speaker 1: a third time. No, leave, leave the relationship and just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So what's by the time I met a girl we'll

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Speaker 1: Cute. Have you ever seen Grease? Yeah? I know the premise. Okay, great.

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Speaker 2: I traveled back to the city where I was studying,

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Speaker 1: Pretty good. A bit about Joy.

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Speaker 2: She's bisexual and has social anxiety. Hell yeah, or so

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Speaker 2: she told me? Oh so she lied about Oh which

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Speaker 2: Our first discussion was around Christmas times when I was

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Speaker 2: she is bisexual and that would be cheating. Wait if

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Speaker 1: It was just it was just a me. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? To shut that down

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Speaker 2: I already told him the story what. I don't know what,

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Speaker 1: He has an okay story story? Oh my gosh, okay.

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Speaker 2: Interesting red flag too in hindsight, so she brought in

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Speaker 2: But they made amends. They were good for a while

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Speaker 2: She then got a part time job at a grocery store,

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I love that, right, They'll be like, yo, don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pants down, call me pants down? Say call your

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Speaker 2: A go weeks later, Joy was going to a party

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Speaker 1: Dude? He called? And I see you, dude. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Your frame was no, because nothing was gonna happen between them,

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Speaker 1: You're drunken and after slur Oh that's what she said, realife,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna happen. It's fine, We're not gonna do Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that're tickling me. We're going to be fine.

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Speaker 2: No, yiks, No, After I called and asked how her

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Speaker 1: Run man, run Forest run.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this was great since I had purchased her expos Christmas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was early on half one. Wait, this is summer vacation. Wait,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I said we should break up, but she didn't want

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Speaker 2: from the end of August to December without exchanging any

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Speaker 1: No, I've got it. I've got a quick okay, story

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Speaker 1: time after this. It's no, this is horrible. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Why I saw people break up over letters in the past, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a good question. They've had to Okay, there is

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Speaker 2: a small twist though. In the end of November, I

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Speaker 2: She made me not depressed anymore about the break up

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Speaker 2: I was going through, and we chatted every day and night.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Joy is out there with LB. Just Joy, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't, don't feel bad, OP, You're You're good.

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Speaker 1: I can honestly see that. Yeah, I know, but it's

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Speaker 3: he is?

436
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 1: Actually freaking waffle? Oh what a waffle?

437
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 3: Someone in the comments called me a waffle. I just

438
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 3: think it's a brilliant insult man.

439
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: Honestly, Okay, give us your best shot right now, guys.

440
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 1: You I have to be honest. You guys, come up

441
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: with some hilarious stuff. Just destroy me, go for me,

442
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: roast me completely right now. I want to see what

443
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: you guys got. I swore Jay was a dead memory,

444
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: but my curiosity and desire to get closure with him

445
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: is pestering me.

446
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 3: Oh of course, like I'm not gonna you don't not

447
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 3: take up that Yeah that meat.

448
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: You can't. It's like a car crash, you can't look up. Yeah. Yeah.

449
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: My current boyfriend supports me in whatever I decide, and

450
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: I feel, out of my respect to him and how

451
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: wonderful he's been, I should just ghost Jay. Yeah, well,

452
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 1: that makes it complicated with you have a boyfriend that

453
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: it does. I'm very confused and I never expected to

454
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: hear from Jay again. I have no idea what to do.

455
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: Please help, yeike. I mean, I would love to hear

456
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: what all of y'all would.

457
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: Through this situation.

458
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: I actually have two perspectives that I'm curious about. I'm

459
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: a perspective what would you do from the perspective of ope,

460
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: and then also as the boyfriend as OPE, like damn,

461
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: I want some closure. Definitely as the boyfriend like not

462
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 3: that I would be sweating, but like she almost married

463
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: this guy, there's gonna be there's gonna be feelings that

464
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: are rekindled.

465
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: Oh as oh p he's current boyfriend.

466
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, as Op's I want to know what he's feeling

467
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: because it's like like, like you want to be supportive,

468
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 3: and I think as the boyfriend, if I was in

469
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: that situation, I'll be like, girl, you do you because

470
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 3: I would probably be secure in the relationship. Yeah, But

471
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: if I was insecure, I would be sweating, yeah, because

472
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: like that's you know, that much pain.

473
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: I would just be just because of the toxic relationships.

474
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: That is, people do be toxic. People be toxic all

475
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 1: the time.

476
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 3: People go go back to the most toxic relationships and

477
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 3: of people.

478
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: That's true.

479
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: So hopefully it seems like OP has a good head

480
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: on her shoulders. But what would you do? Uh, you're

481
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: in luck because there's an update. Oh So, first off,

482
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: I want to thank everyone for the advice. I honestly

483
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: wrote this post and just to vent my frustration and

484
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: confusion and possibly get some advice. I honestly forgot about

485
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: the post for a few days until my sister and

486
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: I were talking and she mentioned she saw a post

487
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: from a girl getting left at the altar and her

488
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: ex showing up again years later.

489
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: Yo, she literally saw her post. I was like, oh,

490
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: this is like reminds me of you. It's like that

491
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: is actually though. Yeah, I saw this person. Her life

492
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: was rash, like it was garbage. I told her the

493
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: post was mine, and she's been pushing me to do

494
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: an update post. I figured that it might be therapeutic

495
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: to write everything down his final closing of the Jay chapter.

496
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: And this all went down two weeks ago. Okay, I'm

497
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: so curious. What is this man's excuse it's about It's

498
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: about to get juicy against most of the advice I

499
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: did meet up with Jay.

500
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: As a lot of you said, a lot of people

501
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 3: said to not do it. It sounds like it I

502
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 3: would have I would have said I probably if I

503
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: was commenting, other probably said.

504
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't not like I would do it, So

505
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: I cannot suggest. Yeah, but I get I get the

506
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: rationale for why not you? Also, it was part of

507
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: a twelve step program of him making amends. Oh that's

508
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: why he reached out. I don't know if that makes

509
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: me feel better or worse about it. That's the thing

510
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: is like, it's not the closure can oftentimes be for

511
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: the aggressor or whatever, not the victim or whatever.

512
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: The term is exactly. Yeah, So, you know, good for

513
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: him forgetting me.

514
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, try, I mean, I guess, I guess anyone can try. Yeah.

515
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: We met up at a park and my boyfriend came

516
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: with me. Oh, that's an interesting thing. That's interesting. My

517
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: boyfriend sat off to the side while Jay and I talked. Okay,

518
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I actually feel stupider after meeting with him. Why there

519
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: were a lot of things in our relationship that would

520
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: have had me out of the door if I paid

521
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: more attention and if he wasn't such a great liar. Basically,

522
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: for the last year of our relationship, he was doing

523
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: substances and cheating on me. He had been struggling with

524
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: his sexuality for years, and it's not surprising it ended

525
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: up the way it is now knowing the truth, if

526
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: you're picking up what I'm putting down, Oh, my man

527
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: loves man.

528
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: Wow, that was I did not expect that twist at all.

529
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Wow. And he was struggling with with substance abuse at

530
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, in the last year of

531
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: their relationship. That is so confusing. Right, it completely changes

532
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: the dynamic of a whole, well, piece of ship. It's

533
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: still yeah, piece of pieces, just a piece of shit.

534
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: There's like that's that's you know, he's not just like

535
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: oh I saw some smoking hub babe with beefcakes on.

536
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: Her rear end and you know, yeah, yeah, I mean

537
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 3: I have more sympathy. I guess I have a little

538
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: bit more sympathy because he was struggling with his sexuality.

539
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: But he's still a piece of ship A hundred excuse

540
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: the actions, but like you know, this mean if you're

541
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: if he's coming from maybe a conservative background or like

542
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, he already just doesn't accept himself, which it

543
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: seems like he didn't. Like yeah, I understand, you understand more. Yeah,

544
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: but also love all that ship garbage. Yeah you're a

545
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: little garbage, but wow, closer for sure. Yeah yeah I

546
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: would Actually, I don't know if I feel I think

547
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: I would feel better because it's not you basically yeah yeah.

548
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like she was probably thinking, like, what's I

549
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: do wrong? Yeah, because there could be like there's Reddit

550
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: stories you read it's like, oh, like you just weren't

551
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: you were just weren't doing it for me? Blah, blah blah,

552
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: and like chose to leave them at the altar with that, Like, yeah,

553
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: his family is incredibly homophobic and are horrible people. Yeah.

554
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: I wanted nothing to do with them when we were together,

555
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: but he insisted on them being around just for big

556
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: life events like our wedding. The substances were something to

557
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: get him through the day and act like he was

558
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: in love when he actually was in love with someone

559
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: else WHOA. He had met his boyfriend at work, and

560
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: I actually met him a few times when I would

561
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: drop Jay off for lunch, so he was having a

562
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: whole other affair.

563
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: Yo, dude, it gets crazier, No, it does it.

564
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying that far was crazier. But I met me.

565
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: When our wedding approached, his boyfriend said he needed to

566
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: choose between me or him. Ultimato, dude, ultimato yo. So

567
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it is. So he packed his bags up

568
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: and pretended everything was great until his boyfriend picked him

569
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: up and they moved two towns over. So basically he

570
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: put on a whole facade only two towns over. That's like,

571
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: bro moved to Brazil.

572
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking like, yo, I moved to Costa Rica

573
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: or something like what if she's visiting a friend or

574
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: you're going back and you just like they think, like

575
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: I feel like people like two towns over is is

576
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: it's a town, it's close.

577
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. That is absolutely cra crazy. Wow. Wow,

578
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: now here's here's here's another. Here's another line. It's kind

579
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: of shocking. I asked him if he was still with

580
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: his boyfriend and he said no, Oh, so the relationship

581
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: he you know, I mean obviously he wasn't attracted with

582
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: her to begin with, but like the whole thing that

583
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: like caused all that pain and all the thing. Yeah,

584
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: but I mean, like honestly, honestly, better for the really

585
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: like her the wedding to fall apart, then for her

586
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: to be like that is twenty years down the line,

587
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: then find out and then find out. Yeah. Yeah. He

588
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: thought he could quit the substances once he was free

589
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: of his family and lying, but he could not. His

590
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend found out and left him. He kept going getting

591
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: high and hooking up with random people. Well, he apologized

592
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: for not just being honest with me and leading me

593
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: on like he did, and he wished he could go

594
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: back in time and be truthful because I would have

595
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: been one of the most accepting people about his sexuality.

596
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: He said he missed me when he left because even

597
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: though he didn't love me or romantically, I was his

598
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: best friend.

599
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: Ooh just ah, I mean right, oh, right, Fuck, dude,

600
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: that is so confused.

601
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: It it's a lot. It was a lot to take him.

602
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: I told him, while I'm glad he's okay and he

603
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: is doing better, I would prefer for us not to

604
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: have any contact moving forward, but I do forgive him.

605
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: He said he understands, and he was only in town

606
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: for a few more days and he'd be gone for

607
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: good soon. Again, I'll admit, when I got home, I cried.

608
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: That's a perfectly reasonable thing to do. My boyfriend held

609
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: me in order to be my favorite takeout. He's been

610
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: really the best and didn't pressure me to talk about

611
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: anything until I was ready. So if I got anything

612
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: out of the worst day of my life, it's led

613
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: me to who I'm with now. Boyfriend current boyfriend. Sounds

614
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: like a total win.

615
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: Dude, congrats op on that, but holy crap, it's gonna.

616
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: Be one of my favorite stories. That. Yeah, I mean

617
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: just in saying and I I found the story and

618
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: completely forgot what happened.

619
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I was on for the journey.

620
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: I know this man. Okay, so what do we learn?

621
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: What do we learn? Okay, so if you get left

622
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: at the altar, it's gonna be great.

623
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: Yes, get left to the altar. Move past it. They

624
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: were like they were a piece of shit, right, So

625
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: move past it. Get yourself a nice good boyfriend. If

626
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: you are that new boyfriend and your current girlfriend gets

627
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: hit up by the guy that left or at the altar,

628
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: I think they did the total right thing. I like,

629
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: now thinking about it is like say, like dude, babe,

630
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: what have you gotta do?

631
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: You know? Get I think he uh went with her

632
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: but was like completely completely out of earshot.

633
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: I think that's fine. That's and I think maybe he

634
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: went there just as support for her.

635
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: And justin you know, like just in case, like hey,

636
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: we're going to be on this bench, just go like

637
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: in the reading the car or something. Give us some space, yeah, boyfriend.

638
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: W And then also forgiving, like in W for forgiving

639
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: big W for forgiving, and also to the to Jay

640
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: you know, toll piece of ship, but less so for

641
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: uh going through the twelve steps and apologizing and and giving.

642
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: Some something terrible is now doing work to become better,

643
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: so you'll got you can give them that.

644
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you know, That's that's all we can ask. Right,

645
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: The past is the past. You can only be better

646
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: from there, that's right,