WEBVTT - The Paul Wall Episode 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.800 G gettle boys, it's back and reot it all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.119 your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.440 the real, the real roading, the distant franchise the truth 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.480 to escape gooding, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.000 so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.439 South against Code, the GB mike. We're keeping your head 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.079 bobbing and it ain't no stopping and wants to be 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.480 drips head by. And then the system is so corrupt 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:28.360 they threw the rock out of their heads and then 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.840 blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on Code 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:37.520 and me and dance it for no butterment biscuits. It's 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.559 really d y'all. Ghetto boys in the house reloaded with 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.800 another episode of information, adding instructions to help you navigate 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.959 through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio the 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.000 People's Champ Paul Wall, Ladies and gentlemen. But it dude, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.000 Paul wold Man, it's good to see you. Yes, likewise, man, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.720 thank you for having man. Man, what's up with this 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.760 energy you got about yourself? Man? You light that room up. Boy. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.360 It ain't the go man, It ain't the grie o Man. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.000 It's it's you, man, it's your. It's your, your presence, 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.120 your persona thank you man, praise praise God for that. Man. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.959 You know, I think, honestly though, it's something that if 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.080 I was to walk in the room and it'd be empty, 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.160 my energy is different, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.040 getting out of bed in the morning, it'd be like, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.199 oh man, I get out of bed. But as soon 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:24.399 as I don't know I'm around other people, it's just 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.679 something that bringing out of me. And my wife will 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.039 always she get on me because she'd be like, man, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:30.800 you'd be in a bad mood till we see other 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.920 people and they don't have to be like somebody who's 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.360 like paula, you know, just a random person. If I 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.760 just bump into a random person who don't have a 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.600 clue who I am, it's just something that energy would 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.800 just come out of me. But when it's just me, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:50.840 I'm I'm sluggish boy. Man. Man, yeah, man, Let's take 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.920 it all the way back. Let's let's take a walk, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.320 yeah through Paul Wall's journey. Let's go all the way 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.720 back to Joe Runchtown, Texas. Yes, yeah, walk us through 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:10.160 a young Paul Slayton. What's that light? Growing up, Well, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.880 my grandfather was in the military. His family, both my grandparents, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.280 their family came from North Carolina. But when he joined 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.480 the military, he never looked back, never went back. He uh, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.360 you know, was stationed all around the world. You know, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:30.040 he was in East Germany before the Berlin Wall fell. Uh, 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.800 everywhere from Jerusalem to you know, he was a certain 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.840 Korean War. You know, he was in World War Two 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.280 all over. So my mother, who was born in nineteen 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.239 fifty three, she grew up she was born actually in 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.120 El Paso, but you know, grew up all around the world. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.640 So they landed in Austin or Beaudah, which is like 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:55.639 right outside of Austin, like ten minutes from sixty Beaudah Buda. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.440 I thought it was is that Beauda and Texas because 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.720 I thought beau exist. I don't know, it's different. It's 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.240 on beautiful because they get on me because I say 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.760 it wrong. They're like, now you're saying it wrong. You 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.280 gotta say it right. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's right by Kyle. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.440 It's like ten minutes from sixth Street. It's back then, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.480 you know what we're going there from six different yeah, okay, yeah, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.840 so you right now we now we go the different cities. Yeah, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.760 we go to now we're like, man, it's right down 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:25.440 from sixth Street, man. But yeah, anyway, my mom was pregnant, 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.960 that's where she was at. And I guess the closest 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.920 hospital was in Georgetown, so being born in Georgetown. And 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.280 then my mom she lived right in uh In like 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:40.520 Hempstead Waller at the time, so she just you know, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.040 we lived at my grandparents' house out there, you know, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.119 till I was I don't know, maybe six months old 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.600 or something, and then moved to you know where my 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.120 mom actually lived, which was right and you know, right 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.680 outside of Prayer of You right there and Waller. And 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.880 then when my mom, you know, she was a single 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.440 parent and she met my stepfather, that's when we moved 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.760 really closer into Houston. This one. I was maybe five 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.840 years old, six years old, and we lived right out 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.240 for like two ninety old out there a little closer 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.560 and and and it's what it was, you know what 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:17.279 I'm saying village now. It was like Fairbanks almost but 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.599 not quite Jersey. It's like one of the things where 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.080 you're on the outskirts looking in where You're like, damn, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.800 they got money over here. But then you go a 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.039 little further into your house and you're like, why we 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.760 ain't got no money, Like all the neighborhood we just 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.360 passed up. But it's you know, it's one of the 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.760 things when you get to experience a mixture. You know, 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.640 I lived in a very mixed community, so racially economically 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.760 it was very mixed. So it was you know, Commedia 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.560 lived down the street from it. He was my best friend, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.640 of course, you know, we grew up best friends, but 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.560 there were also other people, my boyfood, he was viting themes. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.200 It was all continent, all kind of races and everything. 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:00.520 But I think economically the mixture is really wood like 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.200 taught me a lot because you would see people who 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.440 came from, you know, all type of wealth, and they 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.440 just had an attitude about themselves. Sometimes it was like 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.560 almost entitled. And then you see people who came from nothing, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.920 and they would their entitlement was I'm gonna go get it. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.720 I'm gonna find a way where the other entitlement where 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.640 you you're giving everything. The entitlement is you expect everything 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.000 to be given to you. But when you see people 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.920 like I say, who didn't have anything, they would have 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.560 this attitude about, man, I'm gonna find a way to 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.240 go get it. And you know, hard work was something 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.960 that was instilled into me, you know, at a young age, 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.680 being grateful and you know, just doing your best, you know, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.559 not coming up with excuses, not complaining, you know, because 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.600 you always, like I said, I could see right there 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.480 clares day, no matter how bad I had it, it 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.640 was somebody across the street who had the worse and 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.080 somebody across the street who had a better. So it's 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.480 like you always are taking like an audit of your 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.440 life of you know, how good I got is it 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.320 better than them? Should I be happy? A lot of 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.400 times you waited with materialistic things. If you get something new, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.159 or you know, you get showered with gratitude and joy 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.600 and love, and all of a sudden you feel good 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.960 about yourself, or you get something like a some tereialistic 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.440 you feel good about yourself. But you know, when I 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.240 would see the people that would truly be happy, the happiness, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.320 the joy that they would have, it would be because 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.839 of the people that was around them, not because of 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.040 any materialistic things. You know, of course you're gonna get 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.960 happy if you get a new car or something, or 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.240 you know, something like that's your birthday, you got some 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.760 nice gift or something. But the people that really I 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.360 saw that had the real joy. It was the other 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.040 people around them that brought the joy out, not the 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.680 materialistic things. And usually, man, the people that had the 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.240 most materialists of things, they were also you know, in 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.599 a high stress work environment and life environment, so they 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.000 seemed miserable. They didn't seem happy in their marriages, you know. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:57.880 You know what I'm saying. They didn't see happy with 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.719 their kids. They didn't seem happy with any part of 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.279 the family, like extended families. And it just was, man, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.800 you know, you see, which path do I want to 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.280 walk down? Who do I want to be? Like? What 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.440 do I I wouldn't be happy when I grow up? 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.400 You know what I'm saying? Which one of these people 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.440 was happy? I'm gonna follow the people that's happy? And 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.320 who did you want to be? Like? Is that particular 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.960 person and in your family or maybe somebody on television 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:27.280 or radio or whatever. Man, I don't know, Uh, it's tough. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.960 Maybe my grandfather, you know, he's somebody always looked up 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.360 to and admired. He also somebody man. Yeah, he was 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.280 a he was a you know somebody didn't was always 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.840 had a good attitude, and you know, he taught me 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.520 at a very young age. You know, did one time. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.200 I remember one time, I you know, I asked them 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.400 something like, man, it's anything you don't like, anybody you 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.080 don't like, or anybody you hate like and he was like, yeah, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.960 I hate biggots. And so it was something he always 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.000 instilled in me at a young age, like if you 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.560 were biggot under any certain dance and he's not for you. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:07.440 What's your granddad name, William? Well? Yeah, rest in peace man, Yeah, William. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.560 And look the dude fly Ready's name. Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.280 you know what that's a well, that's a way. Yeah yeah, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.720 yeah that's what. Now. Were you an inquisitive kid? What 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.200 did you play sports? I did, but it was one 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.440 of those things where I played it because my friends 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.600 played it. Played t ball. I remember. I remember being 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.520 in kindergarten. I played t ball and I got MVP 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.199 but I was sorry. I was sorry, and I was like, Mama, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.559 how get MVP? I ain't. I'm sorry I didn't get 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.640 that one hit the whole I'm talking about T ball. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.760 I'm striking out every time I'm at back, and she 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.199 was like, well, you wanted me to tell you the truth? 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.840 They picked your name out of hat and I was like, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.880 for real, but I didn't care. I got to you know, 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.439 we want a free trip to pizza. I'm like, man, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.040 that's why I got my name. I was like, okay, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:01.480 I'm thinking to myself, is that they might have had 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.080 to you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking like that. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.560 But I remember too, like the last game in season 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.160 on T ball. I'm walking and you know, you see 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.640 the next level up when you're walking past them, and 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.280 you know, the life the fast pitch. Even though you 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.440 know I might have been five, they might have been eight, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.920 it was still like a big step up. And I 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.120 was just walking by, like, man, there ain't no way 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.240 I'm gonna be able to hit them ball coming that fast. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:25.959 I was like, oh, this might be my last year 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.000 of baseball. And then growing up me and come in there. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.240 You know, we love basketball, so we would play basketball. Man. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.240 We'd go to any park. We were fine. Any anyway 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.599 there was some hoops, we would go pull up and 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.280 play basketball, even football. I was always like you know, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.240 I was athletic, so I was strong or very strong, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.400 and I had like a you know, good attitude and 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.240 you know, a hard work ethic. So you know, those 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.320 are those are all you know, characteristics that could lead 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.080 you to have a good sports career. But now, I 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.480 just remember when we would lose a game, it'd be 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.440 people crying and I wouldn't care, like I don't know, 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.560 maybe because I had you know, issues going on at 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.120 home in real life. There was like worthy of crying 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.280 about where It's like, you know, we lose a game here, 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.200 it has no effect on my life whatsoever. You know, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.160 of course I want to win, but I'm not you know, 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:16.920 I can still you know, this is not gonnaffect whether 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:21.199 I can eat tonight or yeah, that't gonna pick my name, 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.480 my dad, no matter what. Yeah, it was, it was. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.720 It was something I liked that I like the camaraderie 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.960 or sports. I like to you know, the team work 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.560 that was taught. You know, when you're down, you gotta 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.800 you know, fight back and never give up. All those 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.719 type of things. They really they go far, you know 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.040 I'm saying and building character and you know a young 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.960 person who's looking for you know, somewhere looking for a 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.120 direction in life. So it did. It did really provide 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.320 a lot for me either, even though like the athletic 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.040 side of it was like I could you know what 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.840 I'm saying, They tell you at a young age, you 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.360 could do anything. You know, you want to go to 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:56.680 the pros, you could do it. You want to go 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.760 be president, you could do it. And I believed it. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.960 I bought into most of that for the most part. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.880 But at the same time, I'm just thinking, like, man, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:09.680 you know, I could work twenty four hours a day 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.319 for the next twenty years. I don't know if I'm 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.240 going to in the NFL, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.760 I don't know if I'm going to the NBA. I'm 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.200 all right, you know what I'm saying. And if I 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.920 put in every ounce of effort I could do, is 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.000 it possible. It might be possible because you see size wise. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.280 You know, I'm six foot tall, but size wise, you 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.680 see people that'll be you know, like Spud Web you 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.840 know our generation. You see younger people that would be 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.840 I mean, shorter people that would be like, oh, giggee, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.560 hope like man. But then I see Spud with dunking 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:44.240 and stuffing like, Man, I'm dunking like mah man, they 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.200 still dunk. I'm barely I'm barely touching the bottom of 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.360 the backboard, you know what I'm saying. I'm struggling and 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.560 touch the bottom of the net. So I'm like, man, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.679 I don't I don't know if this is for me. Man, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.720 I'm I like the sports, but I would see myself 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.040 more as like you know, That's why I got the 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.960 nickname the water Ball, because I just want to be 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.000 on the team. We're talking about the Astros. Look, Hey, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.920 what's the lowest position I can be to win a ring? 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.679 If the Astros win the world? Serious? Is it? I know? 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.720 I know I can't be on the Yes, let me 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.480 just be on the winning team. I could be the 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.920 parking attend that. I don't care, man, just let me 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.600 be on the team. Okay, but that's close to me 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.040 because I don't want to be the parking attendant. But 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.080 I do want to be on the team. Yeah, and 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.880 I will be that. I'm that dude that will I 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.240 will die for the loose ball and bust my head 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.520 to me to get that ball to help us. That's me. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.160 I hold the most dangerous player on the team. Yeah, 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.680 don't pass me the ball on the open lady. Those 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.120 five yeah, you need those five fives. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.200 you know what I'm saying. Don't don't put me at 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.400 the free throw line with the game online. But if 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.640 you need me to give a foul, I do it. Yeah. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.680 You need me to go to take some files now right, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.520 it's it six five yeah, so you need those six fives. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.840 Put me in the game. But also you know, if 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.200 I need to pass the ball, if I need to, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.280 if if you need to take me out the game, yeah, 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.680 put somebody in better help us win. I'll be on 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.240 the sideline with you. Come on, you get what I'm saying, Like, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.360 I want to win. That's me, man, that's me all day. Yeah. Man, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:24.199 you mentioned Chameleonaire, and it's hard to mention you what 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.880 I can what I mentioned in Chamillionaires, just like it's 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.080 hard to mention me what I mentioned and get oh boys, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.880 you know a scarface of Bushwick, right? You know you 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.600 guys are synonymous, you know, like and y'all joined at 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.000 the hip. Ye. At what point did you and Chameleonaire 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.000 decide that you wanted to pursue a career in hip hop. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.240 I remember being a young age, you know, I know 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.839 him since I was about six years old, five years old, uh, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.480 And I remember maybe even as far back as that, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.160 you know, just being on the school bus freestyling, you know, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.680 being at the lunch table, everybody rapping. Everybody freestyle and 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.439 it wasn't something that that I did. It was something 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.000 that everybody did. So if you know, as it's going 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.080 around the table, you know it's coming to you, so 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.000 you better, you know, be prepared. And I always had 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.520 a knack for it. Comina always had a knack for it. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.120 And I think that's what kind of let it we shine. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.480 Every time we would freestyle do something, we shine, and 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.200 it just, you know, the doors opened up for us. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.160 And I don't mean like industry wise or record label 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.800 wise or something like that. I just mean just just 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.640 the doors opened up for us to show us that 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.240 this could be a career path if we if we 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.720 put our hard into it, and we put our you know, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.800 hard work at it. Like I said, all of these characterists, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.080 we put all that into it, this could be a 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.560 career path. And that's when you know I brought into 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.080 the well shit, I could do whatever I want to 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.200 I can achieve whatever I want to in life. And 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.320 he started looking around and say, well, it ain't. Nobody 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.960 been from my neighborhood had been a professional rapper. But 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.560 then you look at it too, like, okay, man, hip 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.800 hop still as a genre art form and still relatively 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.520 young even in them days. I remember, you know, watching 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.160 MTV or other whatever, and they would just treat hip 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.200 hop like it was a step child or the music 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.040 industry like, oh, that's a cool, little fat job guy 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.120 going on there, but it's gonna be out of here 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.600 in five years, like you know, you know, as the 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.040 styles of hip hop change, you know, you'll see some 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.400 people that will be like, man, I can't wait till 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.800 this era hip hop's over, you know, because of whatever 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.960 they don't like. Maybe they don't like, you know, how 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.440 the beats are or the subject matter or whatever. But 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.000 it will be people to, man, I can't wait till 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.640 this era hip hop is over. They go to that. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.240 That's kind of seemed how it was like for the 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.240 other genres of music. They were like, man, I can't 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.960 I can't wait till this fad of music hip hop 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.120 is over and we can get back to rock and 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:53.000 everything whatever else. They were into. But I never you know, 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.000 I always saw beyond that, like, no, this is uh, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.720 this is not gonna be Maybe maybe it's temporary for 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.040 man mainstream stay, but now a hip hop is not 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.560 going anywhere just because it was none the people that 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.360 that had a love for it. It wasn't just you know, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.760 a casual you just listen to some musics, you like. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.720 It was a passion where when you listen to something 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.920 hip hop wise, you are proud of it and you 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.120 feel an obligation to put other people onto it. Man, really, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.600 did you heard this new song? I got right? Man, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.560 look look at it. You know, not my own person, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.920 but you heard this song I heard just on this mixtape, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.520 this verse somebody did you know freestyle? Man? You gotta 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.360 hear that boy went off? You know, you just feel 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:36.600 obligated to put other people onto dope music. And I 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.040 don't know, I always I never thought I would have 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.400 a career as an artist, but I always thought I 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.920 was gonna be on the team. Yeah, so that I 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.080 was like, man, you know, my dream at the time 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.600 was to be a DJ, you know, because personally I 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.440 didn't like the mainstream music out here. I like the 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.320 you know, the deep cuts on the album or the 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.000 B sides. Oh you know. I would listen to an 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.360 album and now I have my favorite song, Man, this 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.840 song jamming, and then it'd be the song you hear 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.320 on the radio or you see on TV, and it'd 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.080 be like, it wouldn't be the same song. The song 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.199 you see on TV and the radio is not the 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.240 song that I would be like, man, why are they 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.680 not playing this this song jamming? So as a DJ, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.000 I could control what I play. I would just play 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.959 what I want to hear, whatever I want to hear, 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.800 That's what I'm gonna play. So I would, you know, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.399 whatever I'm normally listening to in my car whatever, that's 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.720 what I would play what I'm DJ and it wouldn't 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.680 be necessarily the same things it is on the radio. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.000 But that was just that passion of just loving, you know, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.879 hip hopping. That was my dream, dream goal was to 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.720 be a DJ. And even beyond that was like, okay, 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.840 what else can I do? I love promotions, passing out flyers, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.439 doing marketing things like that. So it was something that 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.520 was that was that was my entrance into the hip 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.080 hop industry. The rap industry was doing street promotions, passing 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:58.040 out flyers the scrubs. It even before that. This is 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.879 when I started doing this. It was for I first 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.000 first started off. Actually it was for Switch Out of fourteen, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.760 and they used to do parties. Michael Watson run see 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.000 smooth Gee. They would do parties at the All Star. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.600 This place called the All Star. It was like a 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.280 sports complex, like batting cages and stuff like that arcade 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.920 and they throw parties. Though. It's right by my neighborhood, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.119 so they throw parties there on like Friday nights, like 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.200 high school parties. So I would go to the parties, 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.119 but they would never pass out flyers at my school. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:30.840 At school I went to was Jersey Village. I would 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.960 always know about it. My god sister went to Eisenhower, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.000 so we see the flyers at Eisenhower and I'd be like, man, 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.080 I'd go up to Michael Watson run see man, Hey, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.399 how come you ain't got no flyers going around these 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.240 other schools. And they'd be like, well, we don't know 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.080 nobody in the schools. A pap man let me pass 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.080 out the flyers. And it was like all right, you know, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.840 don't pass them out, go ahead. And then it got 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.119 to the point where I would make my own flyers 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.679 for the events. And it was just high school, so 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.520 it wasn't like, you know, like it wasn't like a 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.719 you know, Draking concert and I'm making them own. Hey, 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:01.560 Drake comes, I'm making my flyer for it. This is 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.080 just some high school party type stuff. So I'll make 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.320 my own flyers. Go to Kinko's, get him pressed up, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.439 pass him out of my school or whatever other schools 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.960 I'd go to. Uh, we had to track NICs, basketball games, whatever. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.720 I passed out the fliers. And then when Friday night 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.760 would come around, you see people from my school or 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.760 the schools I went to there and they'd be like, oh, 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.280 it's working, the fliers are working. And actually, at that time, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.200 I went to school with ug I mean, I'm sorry. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.159 I went to church with og run See, with his uh, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.600 his mom, his stepdad, his sisters, me, and his cousin 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.280 with best friends. He gave me. Even one gave me 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.240 the nickname Powall, so they you know, that was kind 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.719 of my boy Brandy Sykes, my boy b Sykes and 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.080 fact we worked at we were working at James Cone 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.239 Island at the time, and I would just be in 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.720 a freestyle and rapping, and he just would I would say, Man, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.760 I'm gonna call you Powa. You know a Houston thing. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.320 Everybody every name rhyme. You know, Kiki, Poyo, screw Zoo, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.120 he got, you know, so he's like, man, I'm gonna 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.359 get your nickname Powa. I think he might have knew 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.920 somebody that he like went to school who actually had 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.560 the name Paul Wall and he was like, Nah, your 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.360 name pot now you Powall. So I used to hate 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.920 it because at the time I had a rap name. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.040 You know what I'm saying. My rap name was a 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:15.080 kpe Crusader, Overflow, Overflow the kpe Crusader. So Pola got 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.760 a little nice, a little ring to it, but Overflow 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.960 the kpe Crusade was like, Man, that's the name I'm 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.880 trying to push. And then we'd be at the parties 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.320 and ron C would be like, hey, b Sykes in there, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.479 what's your boy name? Go church? My MoMA Powall in here, 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.560 and I'd be like, man, don't say Pawa man, because 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.320 people to go to my school they don't know mis 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.600 paw even as Paul Slayton. So you're you're getting shout 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.800 out man, he said, Paula, he ain't say you. You 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.360 ain't pop man. I'd be like, oh man, shit, don't 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.439 don't say po Man, ain't know me. It's some mill man. 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.920 They say the Kate Crusay overflow man. Hell no, ain't 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.000 saying that. Pall in here and I'm like, oh man, 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.840 everywhere I go be Sykes, Hey, this my boy po Man. 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.000 Quit telling people that's my name. And then I go 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.080 somewhere without them they powa, what's up? And then be 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.840 like a true nickname man, one of the ones you 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.080 don't like to stick with you and everybody called but 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.560 it's stuck. But I just I don't know, man. I 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.000 saw a career path in hip hop as a DJ, 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.280 doing street promotions, marketing, and it was just I just 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:12.960 loved hip hop. I want to be a part of 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.560 some type of way, and when they let me pass 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.879 out the flyers, that took me to another level where 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.600 I would then go to the college parties and they'd 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.600 be like, because at the high school parties, the record 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.719 labels would come, they'd have representatives there. They would be like, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.000 because it's a straight high school environment, they'd be you know, 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:34.960 want to they want to tap into the high school 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.199 environment to to promote whatever artists. If Willie D got 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.480 an album coming out, okay, it'd be Rapple out in 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.000 the house promoting it. Willie D got an album coming out, 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.680 So I would see people from record labels, they're doing 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.119 promotions and I would just hey, man, how can I 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.120 get down with you? My boy five four, my boy Ace, 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.119 my boy Lump, and they would, you know, Lump and 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.199 as they would handled like the big big accounts like 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:03.080 Universal Deaf Jam, no limit, you know, cash money and 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.560 real priority. So this is anything. This hip hop was 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.399 coming through them. And of course if you do marketing, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.000 you're always looking for a good flyer, passler outer, you 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.159 know what I'm saying. I was the guy. Now I 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.000 gotta ask you this. I gotta ask you this, and 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:21.240 this is this is very relative to anybody who's ever 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:26.720 passed out flyers. Have you ever dumped the box of fliers? Man? 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.840 Never I would do. I would do this with my 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.760 homeboy and he would dump the flyers and I'd be like, bro, 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.560 there's somebody gonna find it. Man, they're gonna come it's 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:38.959 gonna come back on us. And he'd be like, man, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.760 they ain't gonna find out, they're gonna know. And he 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.000 dumped like a whole boxing and leave like a little 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.240 stack and just passed them out like he's still doing it, 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.680 but now not me because I don't know. I just 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.119 I was always talking about my mama that God's always watching. 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.000 Guys always watching, so you can you know, you might 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.440 get scam somebody or get over on your parents to 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.520 teach you, but gods always watching, and then that KRM 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.080 are gonna come back. So I would always just want 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.520 to do right, not because I'm being seen and I'm 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.400 doing right, but because it's the right thing to do. 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.959 So I felt like I really bought into that really, like, 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.240 man if I do good, it's gonna come back. If 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.679 bad happens to me, that's all right. You gotta you know, 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.240 Grinn and Bared fight through it, keep a positive attitude, 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.160 and the reverse is gonna happen. Good it's gonna start 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.800 to come come to you. You know. You know, some people, 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.280 especially this day in the day, I see a lot 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.640 of people who like match energy, like are you gonna 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.120 be a whole? Fucking I'm gonna be a whole too. 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.520 But I mean I've always felt like there's more power 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.840 in just maintaining a level head. You know, if if 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:43.200 you keeping even killed, you know, a demeanor about yourself, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:45.879 because if all it takes to set you off is 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:47.480 just some random person to come up to you and 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.640 say a few words and then they set you off 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.880 and you didn't shot somebody or stab or kill somebody 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.480 or cut somebody, or or even if they just took 0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.359 your energy and all of a sudden you're having a 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.320 horrible day because they said some words to you. It's like, man, 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.240 I feel like you're giving them all the power. I 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.440 feel powerless. If that's all it takes, somebody got to 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:07.760 come up and say some words to me, then I 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.160 have no power over my energy. I'm giving the whole 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:15.240 world power. The voice reloaded podcasts will keep right back 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:24.920 after the support. Is there anything that somebody could say 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.919 that could get under your skin enough, that could trigger 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.560 you enough to make you want to cause them bodily on? 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.400 Definitely it's happening in the past, but you know, it's 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.680 the situations you learn from and you just really try 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.119 to you understand, especially today's day and age with everything 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:43.240 in social media, based, cloud based, you captured on video troll, 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.000 you know, type of thing. So I'm prepared for it now. 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.879 And you know, if you keep like I say, if 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.800 you keep a cool, calm demeanor. I'm not saying, let 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:55.800 somebody just cold come up and disrespect you and just 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.800 completely disrespect you, and you know, or let somebody just 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.160 handle you. But I mean, you know, if it says 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.760 a lot more about a person, if if they talk 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.480 crazy to you and you just don't care, I'm bothered 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.199 by it. You know, then whether they say something to 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.760 you and you just all ready to fight whatever. And 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.160 then I got a lot of friends like that. Like 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:18.639 a lot of my friends, they never left the neighborhood, 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.560 never left, never went to the other side of the town. 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.479 You know. I grew up on the north side, So 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.520 a lot of people I grew up with the only 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.480 time they ever went to the south side was to 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.880 go to Asterworld. You know what I'm saying. That's it 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.160 Aster World. Anything else, Nope, they're not going same same likewise. 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.240 You know, my boy Goo, he grew up in South Park. 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.720 When I met him, he would not go past the Galeria. 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.160 I remember. I remember one time my car got flooded 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.200 out on two eighty eight Homes Road and I needed 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:47.879 to ride back to ACA's home, and he was like, 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.040 I'll tell you to the galleria, but you got to 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.400 find away from there because they ain't going past the Gallerria. 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.159 I'm south side of a life and not even like 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:56.680 come on, man, we got to get past this man. 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.439 But it's just you know, it's just high so to uh, 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.240 you know, any of this type of stuff was something 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.760 that you know, you keep an open mind about. You 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.320 just try to keep up, you know, like I said, 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.320 be even killed about it. Try not to let people 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.119 get under your skin on certain things. And you know, 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:16.119 and and you live and you learn. Man, you know 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.800 that south side north side thing I'd be hearing about. 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.600 I didn't even know we were supposed to not like 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.000 each other. Yeah, I didn't even know, Like I mean, 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.560 like I found out like years later I'm talking about 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.119 like I was like, damn, we've been hating each other 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.800 for five years now. I didn't even know. I didn't know, 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.640 like because I've never I've never looked at the south 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.359 side of Houston like it was a different world, Like 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.720 it was different, like the people on the south side 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.600 with different people, right, I looked at the south stiwn 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.679 of course we have some subtle differences amongst us, or 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:54.160 some people might say some some some hard differences. But 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:59.160 we all acetown. I look at it Ashtown like it's Acetown. 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.040 So when I moved around and I move around with 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.080 these within these city limits, this is my city, you 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.200 know what I'm saying. So I don't think of any 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.480 part of Houston that's off limits to me. I don't 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.119 think of any part of Texas that's said the United States, 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:14.560 you know what I'm saying. I just feel that way. 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.240 But especially you know, the city that I laid my 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.199 head in, I never got I never got on that 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.520 North Side, south side bullshit that you know, East West, 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.200 I don't, Yeah, I never I always started with city. Yeah, 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.679 I think it was. I think it's like dividing conqueror 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.479 scare tactics of just trying to they're different than you, 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.800 so you're not supposed to like them. They live over there, 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.080 We live here, so we're not supposed to like them. 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.679 And then you know, it get to be, well, we're 0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.240 gonna go take their girls. They gonna you know, they 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.280 trying to take our girl. We're gonna go take their girl, 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.880 you know, And then they goes from that to man, 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.960 I used to have some people I knew that we 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.520 still cars on the north side. They front the north side. 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.360 They were still cars, but they were still cars on 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.560 the north they front the north side. Was still cars 0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.760 on the north side. And then you find a car 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.239 banning somewhere with everything taking off of it, and they 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.919 spray paint south Side on it, or vice versas they 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.960 go to the south side steal a car and spray 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.640 paint north Side on it. But they from the south side, 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.040 and they do it just to make you think it 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.320 was somebody else, and even know it's somebody from right 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.200 around the corners. But people that that behave that way 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:25.840 to me, they think small. Right. There are artists not 0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:33.480 just in Houston but around this country who are singularly, 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:40.680 singularly focused on being hot in the neighborhood. They don't 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.480 even care about what's going on outside of their block, 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.080 their neighborhood. They just want to be the top dog 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.160 in their neighborhood. They want to be the top dog 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:52.800 in the city. They only think city citywide. That's it like. 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:58.600 And my thoughts is like, okay, well, what's the highest plateau, Like, 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.320 what's the apex? That's what I'm gonna like who is 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.360 the competition? I never I looked at everybody, you know 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:11.600 what I'm saying, not to Houston, Texas, not the South everybody. 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:15.360 So when people started talking that, even when people started 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.080 talking that South stuff, you know the South this, and 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.440 you know the East Coast this, and what's trying to 0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.880 put the South in the box? Like na partner, like Andre, 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.720 we got something to say, Yeah, yeah, we got something 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.720 to say. You you say you took the name Paul 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:37.320 Wall and ran with it. There's a lot of artists 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:41.719 today who have started started to use their actual government names. 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.880 Do you ever have any regret that you didn't use 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.280 your government name like slavena slave dope? You know, like yeah, 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:53.640 not really say you know, nah, I mean it wasn't 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.560 There was my stepdad, last name, and my biological father. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.800 You know. I didn't really feel a connection to him, 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.240 and I hadn't seen him since I was like four 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.280 or five years old. He was a drug addict, he 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.680 addicted to hero when. He was not somebody that I 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.240 would aspire to be or like that I would look 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.719 up to. And he's still alive, I think he is, 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.680 but he's not somebody I ever want to to see 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:21.080 he was a child molester man when actually when the 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.440 last time my parents got divorced and I would see 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.280 him on the weekends, So you supposed, you know, your 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.600 parents get divorced to see him like maybe every other weekend, 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.200 once a month something like that. Well that would be 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.640 like that would turn into like once every six months, 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.960 and then that would turn into okay, maybe once or 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.240 twice a year. And then I remember at some point, 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.720 it's probably when I was see where it was I had. 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:48.440 I was probably in kindergarten, the first grade, right around 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.320 it was before I wasn't second grade, And I'm just 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.959 basing this off of the school I was at. But 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.440 I you know, he went't kidnapped, the girl married her, 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.160 He quote unquote married her, but she was like twelve 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.240 years old, uh, and then took it to Canada, and 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.000 I didn't seen him since that's the last time I've 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:07.080 seen him. So it's one of the things where shid, 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.960 I don't want to have nothing to do with him, 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.720 so the ain't no way I'm gonna claim his name 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.120 or none of it. And then when that happened too, 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:17.520 his whole family, like any of his relatives, you know, 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.880 they from my perspective, they turned it back on it. 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.200 It was just me and my sister and my mama 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.880 and my grandparents who lived and my grandparents live in Austin, 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:27.520 but it was just me and my sister and my mama. 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.040 You know, they turned that back on y'all because they 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:35.640 were in denial or they were they didn't like the 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.800 fact that you guys wanted to hold him accountable. Or 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.760 was it just the fact that he turned his back 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.680 so they turned that back. I think a little bit 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.680 of all of the above. He was kind of like 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.920 the black sheep with the family or his family, so 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.960 they already kind of didn't fool with them too much. 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.720 And then you know, and that's why, you know, it's 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.000 something that you grow older. You as a kid, I mean, 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.240 I was how I blamed all of them, man, all 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:01.800 of them. Man, they left us hanging. But as you 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.400 get older, you know, it's like nuances when you know, 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.960 people to get divorced, and it's it's tough sometimes when 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.840 the family want to reach out but they can or 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.320 whatever these type of things. But you know, my mama 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.600 is one of them. Mama's just like the sweetest, nicest 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.440 people you would ever meet on earth. You know, just 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.720 people like that sometimes you meet and she's one of 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.880 them where she literally wouldn't hurt a fly, like if 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.840 there was an aunt's crawling on it, she wouldn't kill 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.640 them because she think they got spirits and she don't 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.640 want to kill her at creature. You know, she one 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.320 of them type of people. So she I'll tell you, 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.360 she one of them people where it's like, Okay, if 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.720 you get into it with her, it ain't hurt. It 0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.640 ain't on her. You know what I'm saying. She one 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.040 of them type of people. So it's like, Okay, I 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.920 don't know, but so I don't know. I don't know 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.360 how much of that they knew or whatever. All I 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.920 know is we had bills that needed to be paid. 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.640 My mom's a single parent. She as a teacher. You know, 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.360 she was a teacher for thirty years. Teachers we all 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:03.080 know they don't get paid. So it was she would 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:04.959 be kind of looking for help, and you know, my 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.959 biological father wouldn't provide it, you know, his family wouldn't 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:09.760 provide it. Then later on, come to find it. I 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.880 just found this out like maybe twenty seventeen. I asked 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.320 my mom just because you know, it's something, you know, 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.600 I personally just move on from, like I trying to 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.800 think about it harp on even as a kid. You know, 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.280 it's all right, I'm not gonna let this define who 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.040 I am. I'm gonna go out and be somebody with 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.520 my life. You know, I'm not gonna think about this 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.040 every day. If I do think about it, it's gonna 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.360 be the fuel me. But not on some I'm gonna 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.560 prove them wrong type of thing, you know, nothing like that, 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.520 just on something. I was a very firm believer in 0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.520 that God had a plan for me and that everything 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.400 that happens in my life is just an ingredient to 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.920 go into the recipe of whatever the plan is. So 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.280 you take one of them small ingredients out and it 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.760 just don't taste the same. You know, you add too 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.520 much of an ingredient, it's also not gonna taste the same. 0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.080 So I just was like, Okay, hey God, I'm gonna 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.880 follow this path you pointed direction, and I'm gonna follow. 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.080 I'm not gonna ask questions. So that's that's how it was. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:10.279 But for for you know, like I said, I never 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.799 had any intention of using his name, But like I said, 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.960 oh yeah, I guess I just found this out recently, 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:17.799 and it's like, damn, I don't know how to feel 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.759 about this. You know, we grew up. We didn't have 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.279 no money, you know, like I say, we had more 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.640 than something. We had a lot less than a lot 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.680 of others. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.439 the uh. You know, I'm not trying to get into 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.920 the poor Olympics, like, oh I had it worse than 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.279 all this. Deep I was silver medal in the poor 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.320 olymp No, no, no, no, So I'm not gonna complain 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.719 none of that. Whatever I had, I'm grateful that I had, 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.360 you know, even if it was small. But then I 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:47.360 find out later on in life my biological grandfather or 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.880 great grandfather was some type of oil tycoon, was like 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.560 man supermoti mean, like almost big there, And I'm like, man, 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.880 what And we grew up like this? Where was y'all 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.719 a like man and like? And then that's when I 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.480 really started feeling like, I don't know, he starts to 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.080 seep in like almost anger of like, damn, man, y'all 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.560 really left for us hanging like that. Man, y'all really 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.959 left us out there like that. But then I see 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:17.080 I think of a sense of gratitude of growing up 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.120 to what I did because I've seen people who had 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.040 it all and how they turned out. Like I said, 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.160 when the jump, they weren't happy. Most of the time, 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.400 they weren't happy, or if it was it was you know, 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.839 fleeting where they happy for the moment, and then right 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.799 after that they stretched out and miserable, you know. And 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.239 I think about all the things that I do have, 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.239 even though compared to what I could have had, you know, 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.760 what I did have wasn't much. I'm still so grateful 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.719 for the things I had, and it had a tremendous 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.040 impact on me being grateful now, like grateful for what 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.160 I have now. But when my mom married my stepfather, 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.839 that's when they started to get a little bit better. 0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.840 We got two incomes, you know, we uh, you know, 0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:01.920 we went from you know, lower to the middle class, 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.880 and you know, then to lower and lower middle class 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.200 and it's okay, just middle class and okay, we're kind 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.719 of coming up here, you're making some money, and it 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.560 was okay. That's when you really get to be appreciative 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.799 and you see the journey, the hard work, or where 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.239 we are to where we're you know, how far we've 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.960 come to where we want to go. And it's just 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.680 it's one of those things, you know, and your kid, 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.480 you think stuff fall out the sky in your lap. 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.719 You should think people rich and oh he rich, Oh 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.319 let me ask some money, and now I'm rich too, 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.080 And it don't work like that. You gotta put in 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.120 years and years and years of training of hard work 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.040 for whatever you want to do, and you put out 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.359 the energy that you want to get back. And if 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.160 you put out the energy or you want to quick 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.839 come up or you want to get over on people, 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.040 then somebody're gonna have a quick come up and they're 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.319 gonna get over on you. If you put out there 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.160 that you want to you know, you're willing to put 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.279 in the hard work, take the time to really learn 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.560 whatever trade you're trying to do. For me, it was 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.359 hip hop or whatever, you know, whatever else I had 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.160 going on. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna do right 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.360 by people. And if some bad happened by circumstance, dance 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.279 or accident, man, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna eat the 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.160 bullet just so that we can have peace and we 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.720 can get prosy. Somebody trying to get old on it's different. 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.960 But if you know, it's if something happened and it's 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.520 nobody's filed or you know, we're gonna make it work. 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.600 I'm a I'm a I've always tried to be a 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.040 problem solver, you know, whatever the situation might be. But 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.360 now that last name, I don't know. Power always Uh 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.239 that's something too, that's like, man, maybe he should I 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.399 change my name the power. That's some I'm gonna change 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.480 my name too, like change my biological name. I had 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.200 to change it once when my mom waa remarried. I'm 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.839 gonna change it again. I thought about it here and there, 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:39.160 but I don't know. I got changed kids. Yeah, changed 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:45.239 kid's name all that. Yeah, go to voice. Reloaded podcasts 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:57.319 will keep right back after the point apparently you uh well, 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.680 I would say obviously that you can't be responsible for 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:08.799 the actions that you're parent take, right, But do anybody 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:14.400 ever try to like label you because of the actions 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.239 of your dad. Did he ever try to like throw 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.360 that in your face and say, oh, your dad this 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.640 or you probably this or whatever. Whatever. Definitely, man, just 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.680 from the first time I ever mentioned it, and you know, 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.520 it's not something that I just go around just telling people. 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.799 But as you get older, you realize there are other 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:36.480 people who experienced similar childhood or they something something you know, 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.719 where it's somewhat similar, and they also are shamed of it. 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.680 Now I grow my whole life are saying to my 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.480 biological father to things he did. These are horrible things 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.479 that you know, you hear about this, Like, man, that's 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.200 where I came from. You think, is that who I'm 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.680 gonna be? You know? So I've my whole life making sure, Man, 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.200 I am never gonna do that. You know, the type 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:59.319 of things he did, you know, but definitely, like I said, 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.000 the first time I spoke out about it, you know, 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.520 from there as people all kind of you know, kind 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.480 of me, all kind of name like I decent, I 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.440 ain't doing it, did it? I'm exposing him for doing it? 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:12.240 You know, what were you talking about? But you know, again, 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.239 I think those are some of it. Is like you know, 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.680 the scare tactics people have of trying to get people 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.680 to shut up and not talk about stuff, because if 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.840 you just don't talk about it, then you don't realize 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.360 it goes on, you know, And if you don't realize, 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.160 it goes on, and it can keep going on right 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.560 under your nose. And but you know, I feel also 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:33.120 a sense of like a shame from him doing it, 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.640 but also just because of the age I was. I 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.080 was so young at the time, like, damn, like is 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.640 this something I a matter of fact, the the girl 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.239 my father, my biological father, kidnapbum when we would go 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.960 see him on the weekends, she was twelve years old. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.239 She'd be over there. You know, I'm five years old, 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.840 so she twelve. To me, that's a grown up, you know. 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.000 You you see a twelve year old with a wig 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.399 on to make up, dressed like a grown up, that's 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.320 a grown up. You're not a question. She had a 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.120 you know, full grown wig makeup, dressed like a grown person. 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.120 He's like, yeah, this's my new girlfriend whatever. And I'm 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.040 We're just like okay, you know, I don't I'm not 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.360 known as a child, you know, a kid. But you 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.919 I feel like, damn, man, how could I've not known? 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.879 What should I say? You know, well, who I'm gonna tell? 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.760 You know, Hey, mam and daddy got a new girlfriend. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.399 You know, like even then, like my mom wouldn't have known, 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.759 Oh you got a girlfriend? He a grown man? You 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:28.880 know why wouldn't he have a girlfriend, But you're not 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:33.080 thinking it's a child. But even you know, I think 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.840 for me to this particular girl, man, when they ended up, 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.959 they went to Canada and they got caught or something happened. 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.880 They got caught, they came back to America. When they 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.600 came back to America, this girl killed herself. So it's like, man, 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.160 this shit is to me, I feel like, damn. You know, 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:53.480 you think like, okay, any change of action might have 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.239 changed the whole course of her life. So if she 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.640 you never know, even as a fire ye old, what 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.279 am I supposed to say? What am I going to say? 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.520 But damn you I feel like a sense of guilt 0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.799 of damn, I should have known because you know, as 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.160 a as a growing up. Now you see a twelve 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.040 year old in a wig, Man, that's a twelveyear old. 0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.319 Ain't that sets a grown up? That sets a grown up? 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:13.279 Put that on you, bro? Yeah, I know that. But 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.520 you know it's that's that's that's so viraltle. More so 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:17.600 you know what I'm saying, like, damn man, this is 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.359 and then it being that it was my actual biological father. 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.440 But it's that's why it's said that sense a shame 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.399 of man, I nil will take on his name. Man, 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.879 you can't put that on yourself, and likewise, nobody else 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.440 can put that on you. And for all you uncivilized 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.600 much out there, they count trying all you uncivilized much 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.680 out there we ever tried to pain something like that 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:43.560 that man's uh, you know, father's actions on him. You know, 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.680 every last one of y'all going to hell in a 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.840 hand basket, see a lot of times. Man. This is 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:55.920 why I think it's important to be very very careful 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.560 of the information that you put out there, because the 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.399 uncivilized much of world will take that information and they'll 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:04.879 try to use it against you, you know, like even 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.320 when you're trying to help somebody, even you see, what 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.760 you did was very honorable if you put that information 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.640 out that because there's other people that are living that 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.960 that life, that has the similar experiences, and they need 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.640 to know that it's people like you can come from 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:26.520 the absolute worst of humankind and they can turn out 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:30.840 like you. You know, because I don't know anybody that 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.200 don't like Paula. I'm coming. Sure you got your enemies, 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:39.919 but I'm saying and just general general conversations or whatever, 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:45.319 I've never heard somebody say anything bad about pa Wa. Yeah, 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:51.040 I've overheard people say bad shit about me more often. 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.040 You know, so so so so you you're a good dude, bro, 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.839 and you know you should absolutely not feeling any type 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.920 of shame when somebody's trying to put that something like 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.520 that on you. That's another way of blaming the victim, 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.880 because you are also victimized by having to live with 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:18.320 that burden of having a father, you know, who is 0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.920 a child molested. You know, this guy's it's one of 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.440 the worst, right, So you also a victim, and for 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:30.879 somebody to not realize that shows you how uncivilized they are. Yeah, 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.920 it said that, you know this happened, and you know, so, 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.080 like I said, my whole life, I've always been on 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:42.520 a path of I'm not gonna do that. So whatever 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.720 he did, it made him do that? Was it? Drugs? 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.640 Was it? He was alcoholic? Was it? Because he was molested? 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.359 He was molested also by a pastor when he was young, 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:55.040 which probably started the path of him to do that 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:59.360 because a lot of times the victims, yeah, exactly. You know, 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.439 although you know it's that's also a touchy subject because 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:07.759 then people who have been molested, instantly get pointed as 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.399 is there the molester. You're gonna do it too because 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.880 you were molested, and it's that's completely unfair. But you know, 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.239 miss Parker, I got a chance to, you know, a 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:21.560 long time ago, work with Miss Parker passing predator and 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.719 when she approached me to help her do some one time, 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.560 I was like, hey, yeah, I'd love to do something 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.160 with this, Like just because of my background, I always 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.640 wanted to be an advocate for children or especially hurt 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.040 children of children who are victims of predators, stuff like that. 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.160 So Ever since she came to me, I think that 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.600 might have been like two thousand and twelve, two thousand 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.960 and eleven, some time around then. Man, I've been Man, 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.000 we do stuff all the time, when she do stuff 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.719 all the time anyway, But I'm doing stuff with her 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.040 all the time, just being an advocate. But even then, 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.640 you know you will see something and every nine and 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:56.680 something else say oh yeah, yeah, you know, Paul, you 0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.000 know you'll your child molester just like his daddy. Like, man, god, damn, 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.640 what you mean I'm gonna be advocating for kids. We should, man, 0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.279 we should talking about But to me, I think that 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.480 just be the you know, the ignorance some people have, 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.319 but you know, you gotta fight through that too. If 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.560 you really want to be an advocate for children and people, 0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:16.920 you got to realize that there are people, sometimes extremely powerful, 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.439 people like you know, the Epsteins of the world or whatever, 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:23.920 who have money, power, reach authority that they can silence 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.360 you if they want to. So if some rapper want to, 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.040 you know, speak out against something, it ain't too many 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.320 cars they gotta make to shut me up, you know 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.920 what I'm saying, if they wanted to for whatever it is. 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.440 You know, if I'm I'm smoking weed in my studio 0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.000 and oh, they'll let you make it because I'm not 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.040 hurting nobody. It's just weed, all right, Well you pissed 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:42.919 them on a person off, they're gonna push that button 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.200 and he's smoking weed, Go get his ass right now, 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:48.280 you know, for whatever petty thing that they might let slide, 0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.200 or you know they following you watching. I gotta you know, 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:54.680 expire registration on my car. They waiting for me to 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.440 put out because they know okay and and slot I 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.880 know he got a pistol on them. Okay, expire registration. 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.480 We're gonna get the pistel. He might have something you 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.680 might smell like weeds, and then we're gonna this and that. 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.759 You know, Okay, boom, now you just whatever just to 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.480 A lot of times it don't even be to you 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.080 know and I and you know a lot of times 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.880 it don't even be to seeing you to jail. A 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.239 lot of times it be to hurt your image, to 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:19.160 destroy your image of oh he was called with guns 0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.400 and weed and this even though the gun is registered 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.319 to me, you know, you know what I'm saying, even 0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:25.640 or whatever whatever it may be, it's just for the 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.839 headline of to destroy somebody's character, you know what I'm saying. 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.120 And they are definitely powerful people out there who who 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.000 aren't afraid or shamed or you know, they get a 0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.520 kick out of doing that to people. But you know, 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.759 at the end of the day, if the purposes to 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.680 speak up for children who don't have an advocate, don't 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.840 have somebody speaking up for them, then you know, in 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.279 the grand screaming scheming thing, what's worse somebody talking about me, 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.880 you know, on the internet in a comment, or somebody 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.880 actually getting hurt and molested and whatever as a child victim. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.799 So you know, somebody talking saying some words that are 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:00.880 typed out. You know what I'm saying. You know what 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.280 I'm saying on a screen that you scroll the past. 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.120 You know it can those words can hurt sometimes if 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.359 you feed into it, it can definitely ruin your day 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.560 or really fuck you up. But at the end of 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.400 the day, when you weighing it too on the scale, 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.520 which one is, you know, got a heavy or wait, 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:18.920 you know what I'm saying the words on the internet 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.160 or the actual child's being hurt And I'm not a 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.640 fool or think that, oh, just because I say something 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.640 that's gonna oh, you know, I spoke up against you know, 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.840 child victims. That's the end of all child trafficking. No, 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.160 I know that it ain't, you know, but you gotta 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.319 like look past the people that you got to see 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.319 past the people that will try to tell you down, 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.200 bring you down, and you gotta really think about what 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:45.000 you're doing it for. To your point, what you do 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:50.680 is when those uncivilized much rear their head, you just said, oh, 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.880 I see what teach on, I see what that is. 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.279 That's how you gotta do it. Just be like, oh, 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.480 you're trying to give me off my squad that's all 0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:01.200 that is. They uncivilized much. They ain't gonna be shit. 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.879 The daddy won't ship, right right, His daddy won't ship, 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.719 and mama won't ship. The grandparents won't ship. They ain't 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.440 gonna be ship. Their children ain't gonna be shit. Ain't 0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.279 gotta have that kind of mentality. Man, I know that, 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.839 ain't you, But that's for me. That's me. I'm trying 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.879 to I'm trying to challenge some will it Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.680 like that's that's my mentality. I like, like I see it. 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:29.200 I see when these uncivilized much are speaking out against 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.200 my name and they don't even know me, they don't 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.040 have doing them nothing about me, and but they see 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.560 them shining, so they ain't talking about you if you're 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.400 not shining. So they see me shining. They got to 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.160 put my name in ain't off, you know? So I 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.279 get it. I see what they're doing. And you know, 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.160 I see you in traffic. You know what I'm saying. 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.160 But I'm not gonna stop my life to go deal 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.600 with y'all all that, man, because I see that's what 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.600 you want. So I'm gonna give you everything that you 0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.200 ain't looking for. You did what I'm saying, man, back 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:05.600 in the early tooth thousands, you Chamellionaire, Mike Jones, slim, 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:11.640 y'all yelling it. I mean, y'all, y'all all, y'all just 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:16.239 took off. And I thought it was like, you know, 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.759 we had like a h town revolution going on in 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:21.680 hip hop, and we was just gonna take this thing 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.759 to the next level, next let level. And I was 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.600 almost like, you know, after you know, two three years 0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:33.439 of it, breaks just everything came to a screeching heart. 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.520 What happened? Man? I think about that a lot in thinking, Okay, 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.760 did we make why is this sort? Why is decisions? 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.439 Why choices and how we handle certain things? Or could 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:48.080 we have took different routes on things. I correlate a 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.799 lot of it to you know, uh, just sports activities. 0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.839 Like right now, Lamar Jackson, you know he talking about 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.960 he want to be traded from the Ravens. Okay, you 0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:02.080 think about you know, where we're at today, but five 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.160 years from now, looking back, we're gonna be able to 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:05.640 look back and say, oh, well, if he would have 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:07.719 did this, or he did could have did this, or 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:09.920 that was a good decision he made because he got 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:11.480 traded to this team and they went on to win 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.359 the Super Bowl. Whatever, you know, whatever, you you look 0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:15.440 back at the decision. But you know, you look at 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:17.760 those sports decisions. You know, you look at somebody who's 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.520 a marquee player like that and former MVP. You know 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.279 what I'm saying, Like, okay, and he's so young too. 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:29.160 Should he take less money for you know, a deal 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:30.960 just so that he could be on a team and 0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.600 they can use that money in other places? Or if 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.040 he does that, is a team just gonna say thank 0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.560 you in pocket the money or are they gonna really 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.320 use it to you know, allocate that money to go 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.239 get him, you know, a lineman or receiver or whatever 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.880 he might need. You know, if he goes all out 0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.680 and gets every dollar he's worth, you know what I'm saying, 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.520 Are they gonna give it to him fifty five men, 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.719 sexty me and whatever it might be. Whatever they're going 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.719 rate for a quarterback is not you know what I'm saying. 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:57.799 Is he gonna get that, you know, because he's worth 0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.640 it and he got it, but not a handicapped the 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.799 bill need to go get other players and pay other people. 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.040 You know what is the perfect recipe? I look at 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.840 the same way with us with the hip hop we 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.960 all knew our value. The one thing I can say 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.400 is we were all on the same accord even without 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.200 talking to like we didn't ever sit down and have 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:18.279 a roundtable discussion. Ay, this is what we're gonna do 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.960 when we go go to the labels or when when 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.200 we're renegotiating our contract. This is what we're gonna do. 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:26.400 This our strategy of stay. We never did none of that, 0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.040 but just coming from the same background, the same come up, 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.640 we all seen it clear as day. You know, what 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.800 our value was, what we were capable of, where we 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:41.000 came from. This just coming from the underground, the independent game. 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:44.120 I think it's different than when a lot of artists 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.800 get signed to a major label and that's their first 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.839 record deals with a major label. A lot of times 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.479 artists like that they seem to be kind of major 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.080 for life, and when they're not major, they're no longer 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.840 an artist. But the independent artists, you know, they and 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:03.000 their artist for life. You know, my favorite artists that 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:06.480 were independent are still putting music out, you know, and 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.879 that was the career path I wanted. This was something 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:11.960 I love, so I want to put out you know 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.239 I'm trying to be Wally Nelson. Really, I'm trying to 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:17.920 be Wally Nelson. I'm Paul Wally Nelson. I'm gonna be 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:20.680 eighty years old on tour, you know what I'm saying. 0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:24.680 I'm gonna be putting new music out whatever and yeah, 0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:28.919 selling grill. Hey. I wanted to run down a quick 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:33.480 checklist of names that I think of often when I 0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.120 think of you. These are names that I associate with you, 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.560 and I want you to tell me what your your 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:47.200 current relationship is like with each of these individuals. Let's 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:52.160 start with Chameleonaire, my boy. We grew up together, had 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:57.600 the same dreams, same goals. We came up together, and 0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.160 then we went out several ways and we had me 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.319 in his solo success. We were able to put our 0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:07.400 differences to the side, come back together, appreciate the brotherhood 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.759 we had as children, Appreciate the success we achieved as 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.200 young men. Where we had today is that's that's my boy. 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.600 I'm happy for him, proud of them. Anytime I see 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.480 his name, see him anywhere, I'm you know, rooting for him, 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.719 just like as if you know jose A two hit 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.359 the home run, so you know, what I'm saying. He's 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.279 somebody I joke with all the time about coming out 0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.160 of retirement, although he always remind me he not retired. 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.440 I always, you know, I kind of uh, you know, 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.880 be joking with him, like, man, I might have to 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.840 sacrifice myself to the rap guards and dish you or 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.239 something I'm gonna put out of I'm gonna discommed and 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.600 just to wire him up to come out of retirement, 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.520 like you know what I'm saying. Like you know, I 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:48.560 don't know. I'm not no battle rap or nothing like that. 0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:50.759 And if I went against anybody, especially if I went 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.320 against Commune, probably just started me. But I'll be just 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.200 laughing like man, I'm like, I'm ana discommed, just to 0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.239 just to bring him out of retirement. You know what 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:00.120 I'm saying, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna sack con 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.040 fights myself, you know for Texas Himp hop, man, come on, 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:05.480 come in, come back. But now that that's my boy man, 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:08.279 and uh shit, Man, I know he's getting his money. 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:11.200 But I always be like, Okay, one day, one day 0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:13.200 you meet him, gonna put out another album. Man, We're 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.400 gonna put out another album. Talking about rooting for Chamillionaire. 0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:21.080 I remember when he won that Grammy for roding Dirty 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:26.680 Dirty right. Uh? Black Cat Clyde Yeah called me and 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.160 he was like, he said, yeah, man, you know chamillion 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.600 want chamillion that want that Grammy? Yuh? And I said, yeah, 0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.759 we wont you dig? So I feel you when you 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:41.880 talk about wanting to see him win. I feel that. 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:47.440 Let's let's quickly go through some other names. Dash ge 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:51.040 dash another somebody who you know, we got a long 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:54.960 history with. I don't see him too often anymore, just 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.719 because I'm not signed to him as a as an artist. 0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.480 So when I when you signed him as a artist, 0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.000 youre talking about all the time, you know. But I 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:04.279 see him at events or whether it be like you know, 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.920 the rodeo or somebody's birthday or one of my events 0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:08.879 will come out to or switch the house event I'll 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.399 go to. But he's just somebody you know when uh, 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:15.320 you know, I get long winded too, man, you know 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.840 I talked for hour body every one of these people. 0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:23.520 But I know that's why quickly quickly, yeah, but he's 0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:25.520 somebody who Man, when I you know, men comin or 0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:28.399 when I separate ways. I didn't have a record deal 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.200 on the table for any label in the world that 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.400 everybody was like, yeah, you was cool with comed there. 0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.280 Let me know when y'all get back together, you solo artists, 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.040 good luck to you. You know, that's kind of how 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.680 it would be. He's you know, t Ferris say, hey, man, 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.480 I talked to Dash and Watch. They got a contract 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:45.640 for you if you want it, Man, yeah, I want to. 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.760 I don't know. It's the only offer I got periods, 0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:50.759 I don't. I don't got no other options. Is this 0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.000 or I had to get run, you know? So then 0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.919 shout out to ge dash Man, Michael five thousand, Watch, 0:55:57.160 --> 0:55:58.960 Michael five thousand. Watch. I met him when I was 0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.080 fourteen asking our fliers and he gave me that shot. 0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:04.239 Was like, all right, I was that annoying kid that 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.359 used to bug him and call him and He's just like, yeah, man, 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.359 come on. He took me on his wing and man 0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.120 showed me so much. Man. He he allowed me to, 0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:14.839 you know, showcase my talent on his platform and switch 0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.120 the house tapes another one. Man, boy, I love him 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.040 for life, man, every everybody your neighbor, man, I loved 0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:27.120 him for life. Johnny Dash, Johnny Day before Johnny Man, Boy, 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.960 I never thought. You know, when you're a child, you 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.080 see things you want, Like if there's a car you want, 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:39.840 you see a Lamborghini, Johnny Dan, Yeah, and it might 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.840 be Johnny new nickname, Johnny Dash, that might be that 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.919 might be a new rap name. But imagine you see 0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.120 like a Lamborghini, You're like, well, I always want to 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:51.560 have a Lamborghini. You never would think that, you you know, 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.960 have a Lamborghini store. You know what I'm saying. And 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:56.920 that's how it is with Johnny, Like I always want 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.680 to Jerry, but I never thought I would be a 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.360 part of something like so Majors. Is that, you know, 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.880 just just even being friends with Johnny, you know, not 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.239 even being business partners or doing jury together any of that, 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.919 just being friends with him, and he's such an icon 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:12.920 for the city. Man and I think we have a 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:16.200 similar energy of where we want to have. We want 0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:17.880 to be happy, We want to be in a good 0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:19.600 move when we see other people, Hey, what's up? Man? 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:21.200 You been what's up? You know so that when you 0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.880 see other people who bring out of you and me 0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:27.240 and Johnny Man, he we got that. Uh. We hustled 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:30.600 in tandem. Man, We we When I met Johnny he 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:33.520 had a you know here he still got that accident. 0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.840 But when I met him boar his English, it was difficult. 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:40.560 He needed close captions for real. And that's where we 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.560 where we really messed because, like I said, I always 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.840 had an affinity for immigrants, just because my mother and 0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:51.000 my grandfather or my grandparents, they lived all around the world, 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:54.480 you know, so growing up my grandparents, their friends were 0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.760 all immigrants or of other races. There was never white 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.640 people coming in and out of any of these homes 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:02.760 that I was in, So you know, whether it's just 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.560 other Americans or you know, immigrants in general, there were 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.040 other you know, I always had affinity, I love for 0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.720 people from elsewhere, like you know, like you from where, 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:15.600 what's it like there? What do you eat there? What's 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.200 your how do they talk there? How do you saying 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.200 this there? You know, whatever it is. So you know, 0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.160 when you meet Johnny, you know, like the same with 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.880 my neighborhood was mixed race. A lot of you know 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.640 where I lived over there, there's a lot of immigrants 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.520 that would come to Houston and this is where they 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.360 would make their home in our neighborhood, so you would 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.320 I would see people from all different walks of life 0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:37.600 from around the world. So seeing Johnny, I wouldn't get 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:40.520 hung up or frustrated because I can't understand what he 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:43.320 was saying. I looked at it as a challenge. What 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.760 you're saying, I'm gonna figure this out. And then, you know, 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.560 I'd go into the shop and he's arguing with somebody, 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:51.320 and they arguing because they can't understand each other, and 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:54.480 he's speaking English but barely, somebody else speaking English but barely, 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.600 and I'd be there just like, no, no, no, no, 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:57.800 this is what he's saying. No, no, this is what 0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.200 he's saying, and just just translating English to English, you know. 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:05.760 And we end up being good friends and business partners too. 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.640 But the friendship I think is above all else. Even 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:14.160 with our business relationship, the money, it's not based on 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:17.600 money at all. It's you know, our relationship is you know, 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.840 based off of success, success of the business. What do 0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:22.760 we got to do to make the business be a success? 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.720 Not a success this year, this season? But how can 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.920 we pass this on to our kids? How can it 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.600 be generational? How can we make an impact in our community, 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.800 whether it's our immediate community outside the store, the community 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.320 where we grew up, came from community where we live now, 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:40.040 the community where our customers are, fans are, all of 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.840 that is our community. So how can we dig up 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.240 our community? How can we uplift our community, give back 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.000 all these things? It's that's something that man. You know, 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:52.400 I've been truly blessed to have a friend in the 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:54.680 partner like Johnny Dane. Because you see a lot of 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.120 other jewelers, you know, it's not always like that. Usually 0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:01.040 it's about them and there they're individ, usual family. You 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.320 see a lot of other rappers. It's the same. It's 1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:06.240 not about you know, building things. It's about how much 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:09.760 can I get for me and both of us together? 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:14.680 It really is. It's been dope, Crystal, your wife and 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.080 my wife. That's that's number one. That's number one on 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:20.200 the list. Man. She changed my life. Man, when I 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.840 met her, it was instant falling in love, man, love 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:24.480 one of them love at first sight things where you 1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:28.360 see her which I first met her on TSU campus 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:32.840 at the time. No, she had a boyfriend, and uh, 1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:34.560 you know, and I didn't think nothing of it. She 1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:36.560 didn't think of it. You know, we wouldn't know, hollering 1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:38.520 type of things. Some of you bump into on TSU 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:41.520 campus and then next thing you know, they broke up. 1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:44.320 You know, year, a couple of years go by, I'm 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:47.280 passing out fliers for a club play downtown me and 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:49.760 my boy Goo used to do on Thursday nights, college night. 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:54.360 We had club Rhythms. I was on my rides, trying 1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:56.320 to come up as a rapper. She's on her rides, 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.200 also trying to come up as a singer at that 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.600 time in the singing group. She's out there trying to 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:03.840 sell us CDs. I'm trying to sell my CDs my friends, 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.680 trying to hilight her friends, and well they ain't trying 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:08.720 to buy the CDs, they're just trying to hil at them. 1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:11.560 And I'm just like, man, y'all gotta looking broke, man, 1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:13.840 buy a ten dollars CDs man at least, so we 1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:16.600 ain't gonna be looking broke. So I buy CD from him. 1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:20.200 The CD end up being scratched, uh, and you know, 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:23.360 so then you know, I ended up giving her a flyer. Also, 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:25.920 once you come to our spot on Thursday. So she 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:28.960 came Thursday to our club. You know, Rhythms was like, 1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:32.040 I don't know, Sunday night, Monday night and we've seen 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:33.840 it a Thursday at the club and I'm like, man, 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:36.520 you know the CD sold me was scratch Then I 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:39.560 was DJing at the time, real heavy, so I would do, 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:42.880 you know, screwed and chop mixtapes. I would DJ clubs 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:45.680 whatever I dj, you know, on community radio stations here 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.560 and there as a guest DJ, anything DJ related, I 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.400 was out there doing. So, you know, when I got 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:54.840 the CD from him, my vision was all right, I'm 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:57.360 gonna screwing chopped this for and give it to it. 1:01:57.520 --> 1:02:00.040 And you know, this is my romantic way of you 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:01.760 know what I'm saying, like I'm gonna take you. I'm 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:03.880 gonna take y'all y'all CD and I'm gonna screw and 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:06.000 chopp before you and yeah, and then I'm gonna get 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:07.360 you know this. Then I'm gonna get me, and you're 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:09.080 gonna be a couple. You know. Now we're gonna be dating. 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:11.200 But the CD was scratched. So when she came to 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:12.880 the club Thursday, it was like, man, you know that 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.880 CD you gave me was scratched. And you know it's 1:02:16.360 --> 1:02:17.920 of all the times I've seen her, from the first 1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:20.920 time I seen her tears you when I've seen her rhythms. 1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:23.440 When I seen her at club play and she walked 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:26.760 past me, it was one of them things where an 1:02:26.960 --> 1:02:30.760 energy did you know if if you know Obama was 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:33.840 to walk in the room right now, we feel it, Like, man, 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:40.120 what does that feel? I feel somebody but whoever years 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:42.280 back on Trump it could be. And I don't mean 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.920 it's in a good job. I don't mean that. I 1:02:45.960 --> 1:02:47.640 don't mean in a good well. I just mean, like 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:50.360 the energy is there. You're like, man, like, who is 1:02:50.400 --> 1:02:53.840 this behind it? Like? What is what's going on? You know? Shit, Yeah, 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.640 it's a It ain't too many presidents, It's not too 1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:59.320 many of them that maybe he shouldn't be slabber. This 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:02.920 is quite a deserve it slapp Ain't that gonna like 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:07.320 me talking about Obama and Trump? Boy, well they Obama 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:11.840 and Trump, they got some of the most strongest supporters ever, bro, Like, 1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:15.920 you can't tell them they never did anything wrong. But 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:18.720 I tell you what, man, Paul wall Man, it's been 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:20.680 beautiful and sitting down with you, man, you know, we 1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:23.640 could talk for hours and you know, obviously you know 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:27.400 we're gonna we gotta do this again. I gotta come 1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:30.120 back for five. You know what I'm saying. The door 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.680 is always open for you. Man. We appreciate you, We 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:37.800 appreciate your contribution to hip hop and to society at large. Man, 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:44.760 Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Wall, No more Talk. This episode 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:47.040 was produced by A King and brought to you by 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:51.640 The Black Effect Podcast Network and our Heart Radio