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Speaker 1: through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the studio the

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Speaker 1: People's Champ Paul Wall, Ladies and gentlemen. But it dude,

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Speaker 1: Paul wold Man, it's good to see you. Yes, likewise, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having man. Man, what's up with this

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Speaker 1: energy you got about yourself? Man? You light that room up. Boy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's you, man, it's your. It's your, your presence,

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Speaker 1: You know, I think, honestly though, it's something that if

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Speaker 1: yeah through Paul Wall's journey. Let's go all the way

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Speaker 1: back to Joe Runchtown, Texas. Yes, yeah, walk us through

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Speaker 1: a young Paul Slayton. What's that light? Growing up, Well,

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Speaker 1: my grandfather was in the military. His family, both my grandparents,

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Speaker 1: out man, he said, Paula, he ain't say you. You

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00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 1: ain't pop man. I'd be like, oh man, shit, don't

421
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: don't say po Man, ain't know me. It's some mill man.

422
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: They say the Kate Crusay overflow man. Hell no, ain't

423
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: saying that. Pall in here and I'm like, oh man,

424
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: everywhere I go be Sykes, Hey, this my boy po Man.

425
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Quit telling people that's my name. And then I go

426
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: somewhere without them they powa, what's up? And then be

427
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: like a true nickname man, one of the ones you

428
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: don't like to stick with you and everybody called but

429
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: it's stuck. But I just I don't know, man. I

430
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: saw a career path in hip hop as a DJ,

431
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: doing street promotions, marketing, and it was just I just

432
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: loved hip hop. I want to be a part of

433
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: some type of way, and when they let me pass

434
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: out the flyers, that took me to another level where

435
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: I would then go to the college parties and they'd

436
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: be like, because at the high school parties, the record

437
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 1: labels would come, they'd have representatives there. They would be like,

438
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: because it's a straight high school environment, they'd be you know,

439
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: want to they want to tap into the high school

440
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: environment to to promote whatever artists. If Willie D got

441
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: an album coming out, okay, it'd be Rapple out in

442
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: the house promoting it. Willie D got an album coming out,

443
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: So I would see people from record labels, they're doing

444
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: promotions and I would just hey, man, how can I

445
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: get down with you? My boy five four, my boy Ace,

446
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: my boy Lump, and they would, you know, Lump and

447
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: as they would handled like the big big accounts like

448
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: Universal Deaf Jam, no limit, you know, cash money and

449
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: real priority. So this is anything. This hip hop was

450
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: coming through them. And of course if you do marketing,

451
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: you're always looking for a good flyer, passler outer, you

452
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was the guy. Now I

453
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta ask you this. I gotta ask you this, and

454
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: this is this is very relative to anybody who's ever

455
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: passed out flyers. Have you ever dumped the box of fliers? Man?

456
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Never I would do. I would do this with my

457
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: homeboy and he would dump the flyers and I'd be like, bro,

458
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: there's somebody gonna find it. Man, they're gonna come it's

459
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 1: gonna come back on us. And he'd be like, man,

460
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna find out, they're gonna know. And he

461
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: dumped like a whole boxing and leave like a little

462
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: stack and just passed them out like he's still doing it,

463
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: but now not me because I don't know. I just

464
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: I was always talking about my mama that God's always watching.

465
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Guys always watching, so you can you know, you might

466
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: get scam somebody or get over on your parents to

467
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: teach you, but gods always watching, and then that KRM

468
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: are gonna come back. So I would always just want

469
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: to do right, not because I'm being seen and I'm

470
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: doing right, but because it's the right thing to do.

471
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: So I felt like I really bought into that really, like,

472
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: man if I do good, it's gonna come back. If

473
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: bad happens to me, that's all right. You gotta you know,

474
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Grinn and Bared fight through it, keep a positive attitude,

475
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: and the reverse is gonna happen. Good it's gonna start

476
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: to come come to you. You know. You know, some people,

477
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: especially this day in the day, I see a lot

478
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: of people who like match energy, like are you gonna

479
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: be a whole? Fucking I'm gonna be a whole too.

480
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: But I mean I've always felt like there's more power

481
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: in just maintaining a level head. You know, if if

482
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: you keeping even killed, you know, a demeanor about yourself,

483
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: because if all it takes to set you off is

484
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: just some random person to come up to you and

485
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: say a few words and then they set you off

486
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: and you didn't shot somebody or stab or kill somebody

487
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: or cut somebody, or or even if they just took

488
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: your energy and all of a sudden you're having a

489
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: horrible day because they said some words to you. It's like, man,

490
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I feel like you're giving them all the power. I

491
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: feel powerless. If that's all it takes, somebody got to

492
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: come up and say some words to me, then I

493
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: have no power over my energy. I'm giving the whole

494
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: world power. The voice reloaded podcasts will keep right back

495
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: after the support. Is there anything that somebody could say

496
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: that could get under your skin enough, that could trigger

497
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: you enough to make you want to cause them bodily on?

498
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Definitely it's happening in the past, but you know, it's

499
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: the situations you learn from and you just really try

500
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: to you understand, especially today's day and age with everything

501
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: in social media, based, cloud based, you captured on video troll,

502
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, type of thing. So I'm prepared for it now.

503
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: And you know, if you keep like I say, if

504
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: you keep a cool, calm demeanor. I'm not saying, let

505
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: somebody just cold come up and disrespect you and just

506
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: completely disrespect you, and you know, or let somebody just

507
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: handle you. But I mean, you know, if it says

508
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot more about a person, if if they talk

509
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: crazy to you and you just don't care, I'm bothered

510
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: by it. You know, then whether they say something to

511
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: you and you just all ready to fight whatever. And

512
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: then I got a lot of friends like that. Like

513
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends, they never left the neighborhood,

514
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: never left, never went to the other side of the town.

515
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: You know. I grew up on the north side, So

516
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people I grew up with the only

517
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: time they ever went to the south side was to

518
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: go to Asterworld. You know what I'm saying. That's it

519
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Aster World. Anything else, Nope, they're not going same same likewise.

520
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, my boy Goo, he grew up in South Park.

521
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: When I met him, he would not go past the Galeria.

522
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember one time my car got flooded

523
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: out on two eighty eight Homes Road and I needed

524
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: to ride back to ACA's home, and he was like,

525
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you to the galleria, but you got to

526
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: find away from there because they ain't going past the Gallerria.

527
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: I'm south side of a life and not even like

528
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: come on, man, we got to get past this man.

529
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: But it's just you know, it's just high so to uh,

530
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, any of this type of stuff was something

531
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: that you know, you keep an open mind about. You

532
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: just try to keep up, you know, like I said,

533
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: be even killed about it. Try not to let people

534
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: get under your skin on certain things. And you know,

535
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: and and you live and you learn. Man, you know

536
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: that south side north side thing I'd be hearing about.

537
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we were supposed to not like

538
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, I didn't even know, Like I mean,

539
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: like I found out like years later I'm talking about

540
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: like I was like, damn, we've been hating each other

541
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: for five years now. I didn't even know. I didn't know,

542
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: like because I've never I've never looked at the south

543
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: side of Houston like it was a different world, Like

544
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: it was different, like the people on the south side

545
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: with different people, right, I looked at the south stiwn

546
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: of course we have some subtle differences amongst us, or

547
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: some people might say some some some hard differences. But

548
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: we all acetown. I look at it Ashtown like it's Acetown.

549
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: So when I moved around and I move around with

550
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: these within these city limits, this is my city, you

551
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I don't think of any

552
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: part of Houston that's off limits to me. I don't

553
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: think of any part of Texas that's said the United States,

554
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just feel that way.

555
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: But especially you know, the city that I laid my

556
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: head in, I never got I never got on that

557
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: North Side, south side bullshit that you know, East West,

558
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I never I always started with city. Yeah,

559
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it's like dividing conqueror

560
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: scare tactics of just trying to they're different than you,

561
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: so you're not supposed to like them. They live over there,

562
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: We live here, so we're not supposed to like them.

563
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: And then you know, it get to be, well, we're

564
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: gonna go take their girls. They gonna you know, they

565
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: trying to take our girl. We're gonna go take their girl,

566
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, And then they goes from that to man,

567
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I used to have some people I knew that we

568
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: still cars on the north side. They front the north side.

569
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: They were still cars, but they were still cars on

570
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: the north they front the north side. Was still cars

571
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: on the north side. And then you find a car

572
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: banning somewhere with everything taking off of it, and they

573
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: spray paint south Side on it, or vice versas they

574
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: go to the south side steal a car and spray

575
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: paint north Side on it. But they from the south side,

576
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: and they do it just to make you think it

577
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: was somebody else, and even know it's somebody from right

578
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: around the corners. But people that that behave that way

579
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: to me, they think small. Right. There are artists not

580
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: just in Houston but around this country who are singularly,

581
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: singularly focused on being hot in the neighborhood. They don't

582
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: even care about what's going on outside of their block,

583
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: their neighborhood. They just want to be the top dog

584
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: in their neighborhood. They want to be the top dog

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: in the city. They only think city citywide. That's it like.

586
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: And my thoughts is like, okay, well, what's the highest plateau, Like,

587
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: what's the apex? That's what I'm gonna like who is

588
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: the competition? I never I looked at everybody, you know

589
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, not to Houston, Texas, not the South everybody.

590
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: So when people started talking that, even when people started

591
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: talking that South stuff, you know the South this, and

592
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: you know the East Coast this, and what's trying to

593
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: put the South in the box? Like na partner, like Andre,

594
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: we got something to say, Yeah, yeah, we got something

595
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: to say. You you say you took the name Paul

596
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Wall and ran with it. There's a lot of artists

597
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: today who have started started to use their actual government names.

598
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Do you ever have any regret that you didn't use

599
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: your government name like slavena slave dope? You know, like yeah,

600
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: not really say you know, nah, I mean it wasn't

601
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: There was my stepdad, last name, and my biological father.

602
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: You know. I didn't really feel a connection to him,

603
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen him since I was like four

604
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: or five years old. He was a drug addict, he

605
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: addicted to hero when. He was not somebody that I

606
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: would aspire to be or like that I would look

607
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: up to. And he's still alive, I think he is,

608
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: but he's not somebody I ever want to to see

609
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: he was a child molester man when actually when the

610
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: last time my parents got divorced and I would see

611
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: him on the weekends, So you supposed, you know, your

612
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: parents get divorced to see him like maybe every other weekend,

613
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: once a month something like that. Well that would be

614
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: like that would turn into like once every six months,

615
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and then that would turn into okay, maybe once or

616
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: twice a year. And then I remember at some point,

617
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: it's probably when I was see where it was I had.

618
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I was probably in kindergarten, the first grade, right around

619
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: it was before I wasn't second grade, And I'm just

620
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: basing this off of the school I was at. But

621
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I you know, he went't kidnapped, the girl married her,

622
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: He quote unquote married her, but she was like twelve

623
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: years old, uh, and then took it to Canada, and

624
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: I didn't seen him since that's the last time I've

625
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: seen him. So it's one of the things where shid,

626
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to have nothing to do with him,

627
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: so the ain't no way I'm gonna claim his name

628
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: or none of it. And then when that happened too,

629
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: his whole family, like any of his relatives, you know,

630
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: they from my perspective, they turned it back on it.

631
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: It was just me and my sister and my mama

632
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and my grandparents who lived and my grandparents live in Austin,

633
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: but it was just me and my sister and my mama.

634
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, they turned that back on y'all because they

635
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: were in denial or they were they didn't like the

636
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: fact that you guys wanted to hold him accountable. Or

637
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: was it just the fact that he turned his back

638
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: so they turned that back. I think a little bit

639
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: of all of the above. He was kind of like

640
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: the black sheep with the family or his family, so

641
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: they already kind of didn't fool with them too much.

642
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, and that's why, you know, it's

643
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: something that you grow older. You as a kid, I mean,

644
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: I was how I blamed all of them, man, all

645
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: of them. Man, they left us hanging. But as you

646
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: get older, you know, it's like nuances when you know,

647
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: people to get divorced, and it's it's tough sometimes when

648
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: the family want to reach out but they can or

649
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: whatever these type of things. But you know, my mama

650
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: is one of them. Mama's just like the sweetest, nicest

651
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: people you would ever meet on earth. You know, just

652
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: people like that sometimes you meet and she's one of

653
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: them where she literally wouldn't hurt a fly, like if

654
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: there was an aunt's crawling on it, she wouldn't kill

655
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: them because she think they got spirits and she don't

656
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: want to kill her at creature. You know, she one

657
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: of them type of people. So she I'll tell you,

658
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: she one of them people where it's like, Okay, if

659
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: you get into it with her, it ain't hurt. It

660
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: ain't on her. You know what I'm saying. She one

661
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: of them type of people. So it's like, Okay, I

662
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: don't know, but so I don't know. I don't know

663
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: how much of that they knew or whatever. All I

664
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: know is we had bills that needed to be paid.

665
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: My mom's a single parent. She as a teacher. You know,

666
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: she was a teacher for thirty years. Teachers we all

667
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: know they don't get paid. So it was she would

668
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: be kind of looking for help, and you know, my

669
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: biological father wouldn't provide it, you know, his family wouldn't

670
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: provide it. Then later on, come to find it. I

671
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: just found this out like maybe twenty seventeen. I asked

672
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: my mom just because you know, it's something, you know,

673
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: I personally just move on from, like I trying to

674
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: think about it harp on even as a kid. You know,

675
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: it's all right, I'm not gonna let this define who

676
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: I am. I'm gonna go out and be somebody with

677
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: my life. You know, I'm not gonna think about this

678
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: every day. If I do think about it, it's gonna

679
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: be the fuel me. But not on some I'm gonna

680
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: prove them wrong type of thing, you know, nothing like that,

681
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: just on something. I was a very firm believer in

682
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: that God had a plan for me and that everything

683
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: that happens in my life is just an ingredient to

684
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: go into the recipe of whatever the plan is. So

685
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: you take one of them small ingredients out and it

686
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: just don't taste the same. You know, you add too

687
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: much of an ingredient, it's also not gonna taste the same.

688
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: So I just was like, Okay, hey God, I'm gonna

689
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: follow this path you pointed direction, and I'm gonna follow.

690
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask questions. So that's that's how it was.

691
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: But for for you know, like I said, I never

692
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: had any intention of using his name, But like I said,

693
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I guess I just found this out recently,

694
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: and it's like, damn, I don't know how to feel

695
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: about this. You know, we grew up. We didn't have

696
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: no money, you know, like I say, we had more

697
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: than something. We had a lot less than a lot

698
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: of others. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't

699
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: the uh. You know, I'm not trying to get into

700
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: the poor Olympics, like, oh I had it worse than

701
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: all this. Deep I was silver medal in the poor

702
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: olymp No, no, no, no, So I'm not gonna complain

703
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: none of that. Whatever I had, I'm grateful that I had,

704
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, even if it was small. But then I

705
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: find out later on in life my biological grandfather or

706
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: great grandfather was some type of oil tycoon, was like

707
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: man supermoti mean, like almost big there, And I'm like, man,

708
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: what And we grew up like this? Where was y'all

709
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: a like man and like? And then that's when I

710
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: really started feeling like, I don't know, he starts to

711
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: seep in like almost anger of like, damn, man, y'all

712
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: really left for us hanging like that. Man, y'all really

713
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: left us out there like that. But then I see

714
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: I think of a sense of gratitude of growing up

715
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: to what I did because I've seen people who had

716
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: it all and how they turned out. Like I said,

717
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: when the jump, they weren't happy. Most of the time,

718
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: they weren't happy, or if it was it was you know,

719
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: fleeting where they happy for the moment, and then right

720
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: after that they stretched out and miserable, you know. And

721
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I think about all the things that I do have,

722
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: even though compared to what I could have had, you know,

723
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: what I did have wasn't much. I'm still so grateful

724
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: for the things I had, and it had a tremendous

725
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: impact on me being grateful now, like grateful for what

726
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: I have now. But when my mom married my stepfather,

727
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: that's when they started to get a little bit better.

728
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: We got two incomes, you know, we uh, you know,

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: we went from you know, lower to the middle class,

730
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: and you know, then to lower and lower middle class

731
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: and it's okay, just middle class and okay, we're kind

732
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: of coming up here, you're making some money, and it

733
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: was okay. That's when you really get to be appreciative

734
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: and you see the journey, the hard work, or where

735
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: we are to where we're you know, how far we've

736
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: come to where we want to go. And it's just

737
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: it's one of those things, you know, and your kid,

738
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: you think stuff fall out the sky in your lap.

739
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: You should think people rich and oh he rich, Oh

740
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: let me ask some money, and now I'm rich too,

741
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: And it don't work like that. You gotta put in

742
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: years and years and years of training of hard work

743
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: for whatever you want to do, and you put out

744
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: the energy that you want to get back. And if

745
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: you put out the energy or you want to quick

746
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: come up or you want to get over on people,

747
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: then somebody're gonna have a quick come up and they're

748
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: gonna get over on you. If you put out there

749
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: that you want to you know, you're willing to put

750
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: in the hard work, take the time to really learn

751
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: whatever trade you're trying to do. For me, it was

752
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: hip hop or whatever, you know, whatever else I had

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: going on. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna do right

754
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: by people. And if some bad happened by circumstance, dance

755
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: or accident, man, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna eat the

756
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: bullet just so that we can have peace and we

757
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: can get prosy. Somebody trying to get old on it's different.

758
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: But if you know, it's if something happened and it's

759
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: nobody's filed or you know, we're gonna make it work.

760
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I've always tried to be a

761
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: problem solver, you know, whatever the situation might be. But

762
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: now that last name, I don't know. Power always Uh

763
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: that's something too, that's like, man, maybe he should I

764
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: change my name the power. That's some I'm gonna change

765
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: my name too, like change my biological name. I had

766
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: to change it once when my mom waa remarried. I'm

767
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: gonna change it again. I thought about it here and there,

768
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I got changed kids. Yeah, changed

769
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: kid's name all that. Yeah, go to voice. Reloaded podcasts

770
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: will keep right back after the point apparently you uh well,

771
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I would say obviously that you can't be responsible for

772
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: the actions that you're parent take, right, But do anybody

773
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: ever try to like label you because of the actions

774
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: of your dad. Did he ever try to like throw

775
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: that in your face and say, oh, your dad this

776
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: or you probably this or whatever. Whatever. Definitely, man, just

777
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: from the first time I ever mentioned it, and you know,

778
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: it's not something that I just go around just telling people.

779
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But as you get older, you realize there are other

780
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: people who experienced similar childhood or they something something you know,

781
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: where it's somewhat similar, and they also are shamed of it.

782
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Now I grow my whole life are saying to my

783
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: biological father to things he did. These are horrible things

784
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 1: that you know, you hear about this, Like, man, that's

785
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: where I came from. You think, is that who I'm

786
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna be? You know? So I've my whole life making sure, Man,

787
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I am never gonna do that. You know, the type

788
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: of things he did, you know, but definitely, like I said,

789
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: the first time I spoke out about it, you know,

790
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: from there as people all kind of you know, kind

791
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: of me, all kind of name like I decent, I

792
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: ain't doing it, did it? I'm exposing him for doing it?

793
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, what were you talking about? But you know, again,

794
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: I think those are some of it. Is like you know,

795
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: the scare tactics people have of trying to get people

796
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: to shut up and not talk about stuff, because if

797
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: you just don't talk about it, then you don't realize

798
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: it goes on, you know, And if you don't realize,

799
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: it goes on, and it can keep going on right

800
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: under your nose. And but you know, I feel also

801
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: a sense of like a shame from him doing it,

802
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: but also just because of the age I was. I

803
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: was so young at the time, like, damn, like is

804
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: this something I a matter of fact, the the girl

805
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: my father, my biological father, kidnapbum when we would go

806
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: see him on the weekends, she was twelve years old.

807
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: She'd be over there. You know, I'm five years old,

808
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: so she twelve. To me, that's a grown up, you know.

809
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: You you see a twelve year old with a wig

810
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: on to make up, dressed like a grown up, that's

811
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: a grown up. You're not a question. She had a

812
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, full grown wig makeup, dressed like a grown person.

813
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, this's my new girlfriend whatever. And I'm

814
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: We're just like okay, you know, I don't I'm not

815
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: known as a child, you know, a kid. But you

816
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: I feel like, damn, man, how could I've not known?

817
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: What should I say? You know, well, who I'm gonna tell?

818
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, mam and daddy got a new girlfriend.

819
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: You know, like even then, like my mom wouldn't have known,

820
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: Oh you got a girlfriend? He a grown man? You

821
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: know why wouldn't he have a girlfriend, But you're not

822
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: thinking it's a child. But even you know, I think

823
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: for me to this particular girl, man, when they ended up,

824
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 1: they went to Canada and they got caught or something happened.

825
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: They got caught, they came back to America. When they

826
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: came back to America, this girl killed herself. So it's like, man,

827
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: this shit is to me, I feel like, damn. You know,

828
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: you think like, okay, any change of action might have

829
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: changed the whole course of her life. So if she

830
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: you never know, even as a fire ye old, what

831
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: am I supposed to say? What am I going to say?

832
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: But damn you I feel like a sense of guilt

833
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: of damn, I should have known because you know, as

834
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: a as a growing up. Now you see a twelve

835
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: year old in a wig, Man, that's a twelveyear old.

836
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Ain't that sets a grown up? That sets a grown up?

837
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Put that on you, bro? Yeah, I know that. But

838
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: you know it's that's that's that's so viraltle. More so

839
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, damn man, this is

840
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: and then it being that it was my actual biological father.

841
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: But it's that's why it's said that sense a shame

842
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: of man, I nil will take on his name. Man,

843
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: you can't put that on yourself, and likewise, nobody else

844
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: can put that on you. And for all you uncivilized

845
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: much out there, they count trying all you uncivilized much

846
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: out there we ever tried to pain something like that

847
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: that man's uh, you know, father's actions on him. You know,

848
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: every last one of y'all going to hell in a

849
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: hand basket, see a lot of times. Man. This is

850
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: why I think it's important to be very very careful

851
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: of the information that you put out there, because the

852
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: uncivilized much of world will take that information and they'll

853
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: try to use it against you, you know, like even

854
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: when you're trying to help somebody, even you see, what

855
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: you did was very honorable if you put that information

856
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: out that because there's other people that are living that

857
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: that life, that has the similar experiences, and they need

858
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: to know that it's people like you can come from

859
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: the absolute worst of humankind and they can turn out

860
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: like you. You know, because I don't know anybody that

861
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: don't like Paula. I'm coming. Sure you got your enemies,

862
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: but I'm saying and just general general conversations or whatever,

863
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: I've never heard somebody say anything bad about pa Wa. Yeah,

864
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: I've overheard people say bad shit about me more often.

865
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, so so so so you you're a good dude, bro,

866
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: and you know you should absolutely not feeling any type

867
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: of shame when somebody's trying to put that something like

868
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: that on you. That's another way of blaming the victim,

869
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: because you are also victimized by having to live with

870
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: that burden of having a father, you know, who is

871
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: a child molested. You know, this guy's it's one of

872
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: the worst, right, So you also a victim, and for

873
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: somebody to not realize that shows you how uncivilized they are. Yeah,

874
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: it said that, you know this happened, and you know, so,

875
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: like I said, my whole life, I've always been on

876
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: a path of I'm not gonna do that. So whatever

877
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: he did, it made him do that? Was it? Drugs?

878
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: Was it? He was alcoholic? Was it? Because he was molested?

879
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: He was molested also by a pastor when he was young,

880
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: which probably started the path of him to do that

881
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: because a lot of times the victims, yeah, exactly. You know,

882
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: although you know it's that's also a touchy subject because

883
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: then people who have been molested, instantly get pointed as

884
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: is there the molester. You're gonna do it too because

885
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: you were molested, and it's that's completely unfair. But you know,

886
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: miss Parker, I got a chance to, you know, a

887
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: long time ago, work with Miss Parker passing predator and

888
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: when she approached me to help her do some one time,

889
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, yeah, I'd love to do something

890
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: with this, Like just because of my background, I always

891
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be an advocate for children or especially hurt

892
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: children of children who are victims of predators, stuff like that.

893
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: So Ever since she came to me, I think that

894
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: might have been like two thousand and twelve, two thousand

895
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: and eleven, some time around then. Man, I've been Man,

896
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: we do stuff all the time, when she do stuff

897
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: all the time anyway, But I'm doing stuff with her

898
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: all the time, just being an advocate. But even then,

899
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: you know you will see something and every nine and

900
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: something else say oh yeah, yeah, you know, Paul, you

901
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: know you'll your child molester just like his daddy. Like, man, god, damn,

902
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: what you mean I'm gonna be advocating for kids. We should, man,

903
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: we should talking about But to me, I think that

904
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: just be the you know, the ignorance some people have,

905
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta fight through that too. If

906
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: you really want to be an advocate for children and people,

907
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: you got to realize that there are people, sometimes extremely powerful,

908
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: people like you know, the Epsteins of the world or whatever,

909
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: who have money, power, reach authority that they can silence

910
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: you if they want to. So if some rapper want to,

911
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, speak out against something, it ain't too many

912
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: cars they gotta make to shut me up, you know

913
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if they wanted to for whatever it is.

914
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, if I'm I'm smoking weed in my studio

915
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: and oh, they'll let you make it because I'm not

916
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: hurting nobody. It's just weed, all right, Well you pissed

917
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: them on a person off, they're gonna push that button

918
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: and he's smoking weed, Go get his ass right now,

919
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever petty thing that they might let slide,

920
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: or you know they following you watching. I gotta you know,

921
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: expire registration on my car. They waiting for me to

922
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: put out because they know okay and and slot I

923
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: know he got a pistol on them. Okay, expire registration.

924
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna get the pistel. He might have something you

925
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: might smell like weeds, and then we're gonna this and that.

926
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, boom, now you just whatever just to

927
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: A lot of times it don't even be to you

928
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: know and I and you know a lot of times

929
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: it don't even be to seeing you to jail. A

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: lot of times it be to hurt your image, to

931
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: destroy your image of oh he was called with guns

932
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: and weed and this even though the gun is registered

933
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: to me, you know, you know what I'm saying, even

934
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it may be, it's just for the

935
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: headline of to destroy somebody's character, you know what I'm saying.

936
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: And they are definitely powerful people out there who who

937
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: aren't afraid or shamed or you know, they get a

938
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: kick out of doing that to people. But you know,

939
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if the purposes to

940
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: speak up for children who don't have an advocate, don't

941
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: have somebody speaking up for them, then you know, in

942
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: the grand screaming scheming thing, what's worse somebody talking about me,

943
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, on the internet in a comment, or somebody

944
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: actually getting hurt and molested and whatever as a child victim.

945
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: So you know, somebody talking saying some words that are

946
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: typed out. You know what I'm saying. You know what

947
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying on a screen that you scroll the past.

948
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: You know it can those words can hurt sometimes if

949
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: you feed into it, it can definitely ruin your day

950
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: or really fuck you up. But at the end of

951
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: the day, when you weighing it too on the scale,

952
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: which one is, you know, got a heavy or wait,

953
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying the words on the internet

954
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: or the actual child's being hurt And I'm not a

955
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: fool or think that, oh, just because I say something

956
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna oh, you know, I spoke up against you know,

957
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: child victims. That's the end of all child trafficking. No,

958
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: I know that it ain't, you know, but you gotta

959
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: like look past the people that you got to see

960
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: past the people that will try to tell you down,

961
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: bring you down, and you gotta really think about what

962
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: you're doing it for. To your point, what you do

963
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: is when those uncivilized much rear their head, you just said, oh,

964
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: I see what teach on, I see what that is.

965
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: That's how you gotta do it. Just be like, oh,

966
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: you're trying to give me off my squad that's all

967
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: that is. They uncivilized much. They ain't gonna be shit.

968
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: The daddy won't ship, right right, His daddy won't ship,

969
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: and mama won't ship. The grandparents won't ship. They ain't

970
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna be ship. Their children ain't gonna be shit. Ain't

971
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: gotta have that kind of mentality. Man, I know that,

972
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: ain't you, But that's for me. That's me. I'm trying

973
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to challenge some will it Yeah yeah, yeah,

974
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: like that's that's my mentality. I like, like I see it.

975
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: I see when these uncivilized much are speaking out against

976
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: my name and they don't even know me, they don't

977
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: have doing them nothing about me, and but they see

978
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: them shining, so they ain't talking about you if you're

979
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: not shining. So they see me shining. They got to

980
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: put my name in ain't off, you know? So I

981
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: get it. I see what they're doing. And you know,

982
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I see you in traffic. You know what I'm saying.

983
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna stop my life to go deal

984
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: with y'all all that, man, because I see that's what

985
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: you want. So I'm gonna give you everything that you

986
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: ain't looking for. You did what I'm saying, man, back

987
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: in the early tooth thousands, you Chamellionaire, Mike Jones, slim,

988
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: y'all yelling it. I mean, y'all, y'all all, y'all just

989
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: took off. And I thought it was like, you know,

990
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: we had like a h town revolution going on in

991
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: hip hop, and we was just gonna take this thing

992
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: to the next level, next let level. And I was

993
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: almost like, you know, after you know, two three years

994
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: of it, breaks just everything came to a screeching heart.

995
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: What happened? Man? I think about that a lot in thinking, Okay,

996
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: did we make why is this sort? Why is decisions?

997
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: Why choices and how we handle certain things? Or could

998
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: we have took different routes on things. I correlate a

999
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: lot of it to you know, uh, just sports activities.

1000
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: Like right now, Lamar Jackson, you know he talking about

1001
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: he want to be traded from the Ravens. Okay, you

1002
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: think about you know, where we're at today, but five

1003
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: years from now, looking back, we're gonna be able to

1004
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: look back and say, oh, well, if he would have

1005
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: did this, or he did could have did this, or

1006
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: that was a good decision he made because he got

1007
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: traded to this team and they went on to win

1008
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Whatever, you know, whatever, you you look

1009
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: back at the decision. But you know, you look at

1010
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: those sports decisions. You know, you look at somebody who's

1011
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: a marquee player like that and former MVP. You know

1012
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, okay, and he's so young too.

1013
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: Should he take less money for you know, a deal

1014
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: just so that he could be on a team and

1015
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: they can use that money in other places? Or if

1016
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: he does that, is a team just gonna say thank

1017
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: you in pocket the money or are they gonna really

1018
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: use it to you know, allocate that money to go

1019
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: get him, you know, a lineman or receiver or whatever

1020
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: he might need. You know, if he goes all out

1021
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: and gets every dollar he's worth, you know what I'm saying,

1022
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: Are they gonna give it to him fifty five men,

1023
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: sexty me and whatever it might be. Whatever they're going

1024
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: rate for a quarterback is not you know what I'm saying.

1025
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get that, you know, because he's worth

1026
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: it and he got it, but not a handicapped the

1027
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: bill need to go get other players and pay other people.

1028
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: You know what is the perfect recipe? I look at

1029
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: the same way with us with the hip hop we

1030
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: all knew our value. The one thing I can say

1031
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: is we were all on the same accord even without

1032
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: talking to like we didn't ever sit down and have

1033
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: a roundtable discussion. Ay, this is what we're gonna do

1034
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: when we go go to the labels or when when

1035
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: we're renegotiating our contract. This is what we're gonna do.

1036
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: This our strategy of stay. We never did none of that,

1037
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: but just coming from the same background, the same come up,

1038
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: we all seen it clear as day. You know, what

1039
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: our value was, what we were capable of, where we

1040
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: came from. This just coming from the underground, the independent game.

1041
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: I think it's different than when a lot of artists

1042
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: get signed to a major label and that's their first

1043
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: record deals with a major label. A lot of times

1044
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: artists like that they seem to be kind of major

1045
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: for life, and when they're not major, they're no longer

1046
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: an artist. But the independent artists, you know, they and

1047
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: their artist for life. You know, my favorite artists that

1048
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: were independent are still putting music out, you know, and

1049
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: that was the career path I wanted. This was something

1050
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: I love, so I want to put out you know

1051
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be Wally Nelson. Really, I'm trying to

1052
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: be Wally Nelson. I'm Paul Wally Nelson. I'm gonna be

1053
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: eighty years old on tour, you know what I'm saying.

1054
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be putting new music out whatever and yeah,

1055
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: selling grill. Hey. I wanted to run down a quick

1056
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: checklist of names that I think of often when I

1057
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: think of you. These are names that I associate with you,

1058
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what your your

1059
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: current relationship is like with each of these individuals. Let's

1060
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: start with Chameleonaire, my boy. We grew up together, had

1061
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: the same dreams, same goals. We came up together, and

1062
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: then we went out several ways and we had me

1063
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: in his solo success. We were able to put our

1064
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: differences to the side, come back together, appreciate the brotherhood

1065
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: we had as children, Appreciate the success we achieved as

1066
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: young men. Where we had today is that's that's my boy.

1067
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, proud of them. Anytime I see

1068
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: his name, see him anywhere, I'm you know, rooting for him,

1069
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: just like as if you know jose A two hit

1070
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: the home run, so you know, what I'm saying. He's

1071
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: somebody I joke with all the time about coming out

1072
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: of retirement, although he always remind me he not retired.

1073
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: I always, you know, I kind of uh, you know,

1074
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: be joking with him, like, man, I might have to

1075
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: sacrifice myself to the rap guards and dish you or

1076
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: something I'm gonna put out of I'm gonna discommed and

1077
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: just to wire him up to come out of retirement,

1078
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Like you know, I

1079
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not no battle rap or nothing like that.

1080
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: And if I went against anybody, especially if I went

1081
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: against Commune, probably just started me. But I'll be just

1082
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: laughing like man, I'm like, I'm ana discommed, just to

1083
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: just to bring him out of retirement. You know what

1084
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna sack con

1085
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: fights myself, you know for Texas Himp hop, man, come on,

1086
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: come in, come back. But now that that's my boy man,

1087
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: and uh shit, Man, I know he's getting his money.

1088
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: But I always be like, Okay, one day, one day

1089
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: you meet him, gonna put out another album. Man, We're

1090
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna put out another album. Talking about rooting for Chamillionaire.

1091
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: I remember when he won that Grammy for roding Dirty

1092
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: Dirty right. Uh? Black Cat Clyde Yeah called me and

1093
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: he was like, he said, yeah, man, you know chamillion

1094
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: want chamillion that want that Grammy? Yuh? And I said, yeah,

1095
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: we wont you dig? So I feel you when you

1096
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: talk about wanting to see him win. I feel that.

1097
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's quickly go through some other names. Dash ge

1098
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: dash another somebody who you know, we got a long

1099
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: history with. I don't see him too often anymore, just

1100
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: because I'm not signed to him as a as an artist.

1101
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: So when I when you signed him as a artist,

1102
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: youre talking about all the time, you know. But I

1103
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: see him at events or whether it be like you know,

1104
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: the rodeo or somebody's birthday or one of my events

1105
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: will come out to or switch the house event I'll

1106
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: go to. But he's just somebody you know when uh,

1107
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, I get long winded too, man, you know

1108
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: I talked for hour body every one of these people.

1109
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: But I know that's why quickly quickly, yeah, but he's

1110
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: somebody who Man, when I you know, men comin or

1111
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: when I separate ways. I didn't have a record deal

1112
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: on the table for any label in the world that

1113
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: everybody was like, yeah, you was cool with comed there.

1114
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: Let me know when y'all get back together, you solo artists,

1115
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: good luck to you. You know, that's kind of how

1116
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: it would be. He's you know, t Ferris say, hey, man,

1117
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: I talked to Dash and Watch. They got a contract

1118
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: for you if you want it, Man, yeah, I want to.

1119
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the only offer I got periods,

1120
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't got no other options. Is this

1121
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: or I had to get run, you know? So then

1122
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: shout out to ge dash Man, Michael five thousand, Watch,

1123
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Michael five thousand. Watch. I met him when I was

1124
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: fourteen asking our fliers and he gave me that shot.

1125
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, I was that annoying kid that

1126
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: used to bug him and call him and He's just like, yeah, man,

1127
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: come on. He took me on his wing and man

1128
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: showed me so much. Man. He he allowed me to,

1129
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: you know, showcase my talent on his platform and switch

1130
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: the house tapes another one. Man, boy, I love him

1131
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: for life, man, every everybody your neighbor, man, I loved

1132
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: him for life. Johnny Dash, Johnny Day before Johnny Man, Boy,

1133
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I never thought. You know, when you're a child, you

1134
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: see things you want, Like if there's a car you want,

1135
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: you see a Lamborghini, Johnny Dan, Yeah, and it might

1136
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: be Johnny new nickname, Johnny Dash, that might be that

1137
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: might be a new rap name. But imagine you see

1138
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: like a Lamborghini, You're like, well, I always want to

1139
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: have a Lamborghini. You never would think that, you you know,

1140
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: have a Lamborghini store. You know what I'm saying. And

1141
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: that's how it is with Johnny, Like I always want

1142
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: to Jerry, but I never thought I would be a

1143
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: part of something like so Majors. Is that, you know,

1144
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: just just even being friends with Johnny, you know, not

1145
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: even being business partners or doing jury together any of that,

1146
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: just being friends with him, and he's such an icon

1147
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: for the city. Man and I think we have a

1148
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: similar energy of where we want to have. We want

1149
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: to be happy, We want to be in a good

1150
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: move when we see other people, Hey, what's up? Man?

1151
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: You been what's up? You know so that when you

1152
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: see other people who bring out of you and me

1153
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: and Johnny Man, he we got that. Uh. We hustled

1154
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: in tandem. Man, We we When I met Johnny he

1155
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: had a you know here he still got that accident.

1156
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: But when I met him boar his English, it was difficult.

1157
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: He needed close captions for real. And that's where we

1158
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: where we really messed because, like I said, I always

1159
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: had an affinity for immigrants, just because my mother and

1160
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: my grandfather or my grandparents, they lived all around the world,

1161
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, so growing up my grandparents, their friends were

1162
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: all immigrants or of other races. There was never white

1163
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: people coming in and out of any of these homes

1164
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: that I was in, So you know, whether it's just

1165
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: other Americans or you know, immigrants in general, there were

1166
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: other you know, I always had affinity, I love for

1167
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: people from elsewhere, like you know, like you from where,

1168
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: what's it like there? What do you eat there? What's

1169
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: your how do they talk there? How do you saying

1170
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: this there? You know, whatever it is. So you know,

1171
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: when you meet Johnny, you know, like the same with

1172
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: my neighborhood was mixed race. A lot of you know

1173
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: where I lived over there, there's a lot of immigrants

1174
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: that would come to Houston and this is where they

1175
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: would make their home in our neighborhood, so you would

1176
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: I would see people from all different walks of life

1177
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: from around the world. So seeing Johnny, I wouldn't get

1178
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: hung up or frustrated because I can't understand what he

1179
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: was saying. I looked at it as a challenge. What

1180
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm gonna figure this out. And then, you know,

1181
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: I'd go into the shop and he's arguing with somebody,

1182
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: and they arguing because they can't understand each other, and

1183
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: he's speaking English but barely, somebody else speaking English but barely,

1184
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: and I'd be there just like, no, no, no, no,

1185
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: this is what he's saying. No, no, this is what

1186
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: he's saying, and just just translating English to English, you know.

1187
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: And we end up being good friends and business partners too.

1188
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: But the friendship I think is above all else. Even

1189
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: with our business relationship, the money, it's not based on

1190
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: money at all. It's you know, our relationship is you know,

1191
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: based off of success, success of the business. What do

1192
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: we got to do to make the business be a success?

1193
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: Not a success this year, this season? But how can

1194
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: we pass this on to our kids? How can it

1195
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: be generational? How can we make an impact in our community,

1196
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: whether it's our immediate community outside the store, the community

1197
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: where we grew up, came from community where we live now,

1198
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: the community where our customers are, fans are, all of

1199
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: that is our community. So how can we dig up

1200
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: our community? How can we uplift our community, give back

1201
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: all these things? It's that's something that man. You know,

1202
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: I've been truly blessed to have a friend in the

1203
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: partner like Johnny Dane. Because you see a lot of

1204
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: other jewelers, you know, it's not always like that. Usually

1205
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: it's about them and there they're individ, usual family. You

1206
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: see a lot of other rappers. It's the same. It's

1207
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: not about you know, building things. It's about how much

1208
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: can I get for me and both of us together?

1209
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: It really is. It's been dope, Crystal, your wife and

1210
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: my wife. That's that's number one. That's number one on

1211
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: the list. Man. She changed my life. Man, when I

1212
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: met her, it was instant falling in love, man, love

1213
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: one of them love at first sight things where you

1214
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: see her which I first met her on TSU campus

1215
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: at the time. No, she had a boyfriend, and uh,

1216
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't think nothing of it. She

1217
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't think of it. You know, we wouldn't know, hollering

1218
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: type of things. Some of you bump into on TSU

1219
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: campus and then next thing you know, they broke up.

1220
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, year, a couple of years go by, I'm

1221
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: passing out fliers for a club play downtown me and

1222
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: my boy Goo used to do on Thursday nights, college night.

1223
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: We had club Rhythms. I was on my rides, trying

1224
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: to come up as a rapper. She's on her rides,

1225
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: also trying to come up as a singer at that

1226
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: time in the singing group. She's out there trying to

1227
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: sell us CDs. I'm trying to sell my CDs my friends,

1228
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: trying to hilight her friends, and well they ain't trying

1229
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: to buy the CDs, they're just trying to hil at them.

1230
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, man, y'all gotta looking broke, man,

1231
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: buy a ten dollars CDs man at least, so we

1232
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be looking broke. So I buy CD from him.

1233
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: The CD end up being scratched, uh, and you know,

1234
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: so then you know, I ended up giving her a flyer. Also,

1235
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: once you come to our spot on Thursday. So she

1236
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: came Thursday to our club. You know, Rhythms was like,

1237
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, Sunday night, Monday night and we've seen

1238
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: it a Thursday at the club and I'm like, man,

1239
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: you know the CD sold me was scratch Then I

1240
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: was DJing at the time, real heavy, so I would do,

1241
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, screwed and chop mixtapes. I would DJ clubs

1242
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: whatever I dj, you know, on community radio stations here

1243
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: and there as a guest DJ, anything DJ related, I

1244
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: was out there doing. So, you know, when I got

1245
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: the CD from him, my vision was all right, I'm

1246
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: gonna screwing chopped this for and give it to it.

1247
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: And you know, this is my romantic way of you

1248
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like I'm gonna take you. I'm

1249
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna take y'all y'all CD and I'm gonna screw and

1250
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: chopp before you and yeah, and then I'm gonna get

1251
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: you know this. Then I'm gonna get me, and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a couple. You know. Now we're gonna be dating.

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Speaker 1: But the CD was scratched. So when she came to

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Speaker 1: the club Thursday, it was like, man, you know that

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Speaker 1: CD you gave me was scratched. And you know it's

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Speaker 1: of all the times I've seen her, from the first

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Speaker 1: time I seen her tears you when I've seen her rhythms.

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Speaker 1: When I seen her at club play and she walked

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Speaker 1: past me, it was one of them things where an

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Speaker 1: energy did you know if if you know Obama was

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Speaker 1: to walk in the room right now, we feel it, Like, man,

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Speaker 1: what does that feel? I feel somebody but whoever years

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Speaker 1: back on Trump it could be. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: it's in a good job. I don't mean that. I

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Speaker 1: don't mean in a good well. I just mean, like

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Speaker 1: the energy is there. You're like, man, like, who is

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Speaker 1: this behind it? Like? What is what's going on? You know? Shit, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a It ain't too many presidents, It's not too

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Speaker 1: many of them that maybe he shouldn't be slabber. This

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Speaker 1: is quite a deserve it slapp Ain't that gonna like

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Speaker 1: me talking about Obama and Trump? Boy, well they Obama

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Speaker 1: and Trump, they got some of the most strongest supporters ever, bro, Like,

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Speaker 1: you can't tell them they never did anything wrong. But

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, Paul wall Man, it's been

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Speaker 1: beautiful and sitting down with you, man, you know, we

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Speaker 1: could talk for hours and you know, obviously you know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we gotta do this again. I gotta come

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Speaker 1: back for five. You know what I'm saying. The door

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Speaker 1: is always open for you. Man. We appreciate you, We

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Speaker 1: appreciate your contribution to hip hop and to society at large. Man,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Wall, No more Talk. This episode

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Speaker 1: was produced by A King and brought to you by

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