Speaker 1: I leave in I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 1: time and.
Speaker 3: A termino and gage aid.
Speaker 4: We want to send you off in style.
Speaker 5: We wanna welcome you back home.
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 5: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 1: Malborn?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do your need.
Speaker 6: Ride with Karen and Chris?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 4: It is yes, this is the future.
Speaker 5: I know the future is here and is waiting to
Speaker 5: pick you up. I'm so sorry that's not so Hi Hi.
Speaker 4: Hi y Mark, good to see you. Yeah, we must apologize.
Speaker 4: Karen's hair was wet. Oh no, I'll take the full blame.
Speaker 5: Now the future. I'm going to back down the street.
Speaker 5: You can go straight? Oh I can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe we went to your old house first.
Speaker 5: Did you go to Belden? Did you go to Belden?
Speaker 5: Is that the one it's up behind the Gelson's. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I was like, guys, I know where it is. I've
Speaker 5: been to this multiple times, but we got all kind
Speaker 5: of This is our first episode back in the car
Speaker 5: since the pandemic. Yeah, oh, that's incredible. You're a premier guest.
Speaker 1: I'm honored.
Speaker 5: This is really cool. This is this is your car?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: Now, this is incredible. And do you have to plug
Speaker 1: it in?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you plug it in at your house? I do?
Speaker 5: I have a charger in my garage.
Speaker 4: Did they install that for you?
Speaker 5: I had to have an electrician install it?
Speaker 4: Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then how many How does it compare compare to
Speaker 1: going to the gas station.
Speaker 5: It is so much cheaper, It's crazy, and I feel
Speaker 5: like this the savings. Uh, I couldn't afford not to
Speaker 5: buy it. Well, I actually ended up first of all
Speaker 5: the state. And I'd like to make is I bought
Speaker 5: a Tesla before Elon Musk came out as a full
Speaker 5: on Nazi, right, so I'm absolutely considering getting rid of
Speaker 5: it or at least shopping for other electric cars. But
Speaker 5: I will say this, I bought this car right before
Speaker 5: the gas crazy gas was like eight dollars a gallon.
Speaker 5: I got it right before, and I was so like
Speaker 5: a little devil giggling to myself because it felt like
Speaker 5: such a win. Yeah, sure, you go ahead, but uh yeah,
Speaker 5: so it's it's great because then you just plug it in.
Speaker 5: I don't even drive that much, so it's really worth
Speaker 5: it and really good.
Speaker 4: What if all the electricity in the city goes out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, then I walk.
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's a good if you want to exercise
Speaker 4: in the future.
Speaker 5: But then do you can it drive you?
Speaker 1: This? Can you?
Speaker 5: It's supposed to be able to. But I would never
Speaker 5: do the self driving. I don't think they really have
Speaker 5: the technology in the way where you don't kill children.
Speaker 1: Right, it seems really weird. Yeah, I would be so
Speaker 1: freaked out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't because I think, like driving up north,
Speaker 5: you can put it on, like if you're just on
Speaker 5: the five and you're still steering, but it's just gassing
Speaker 5: and breaking for you. But oh I think it also
Speaker 5: can steer for you. But I don't trust anyone or anything, So.
Speaker 1: I don't even do like cruise control, right, I've never
Speaker 1: ever done that.
Speaker 4: I feel the same way. I like to be in
Speaker 4: control of my accelerating and my breaking and my Jake breaking.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be relaxing in the car and
Speaker 5: kind of like not.
Speaker 1: And like just you know, being a passenger, you know
Speaker 1: you're supposed to drive it. But then but this is
Speaker 1: really cool. Like so the whole skylight, it's like a
Speaker 1: big you're in the outside.
Speaker 4: I didn't even look.
Speaker 1: Up, you see, Like it's like such a trippy thing
Speaker 1: because it's like a big window. Yeah, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: really it's weird because the tint is really good on it.
Speaker 1: So I don't it's not like you get hot or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about my melanoma or anything.
Speaker 4: As far as I know, I'm sold on it. Except
Speaker 4: for that whole Nazi thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a real wrench. It just yeah, he ruins it. Yes, but.
Speaker 1: It's also such a cool car.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 1: It's really fast, it's great on the freeway.
Speaker 4: I mean it looks like a modern home. I thought
Speaker 4: this was made to look like Marble with it. But
Speaker 4: it's little pop prints.
Speaker 5: It's all dog. Oh dogs, little dog. It's dogs going.
Speaker 1: Where are we going?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 1: Do they like the car?
Speaker 5: They both get pretty stressed out. They're not car dogs really.
Speaker 5: So I have a dog named Blossom who is famous
Speaker 5: for throwing up within five minutes of being in the car. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think she thinks I'm driving her back to the pound. No,
Speaker 5: and I try to tell her, but she won't listen.
Speaker 5: And then Frank just is always kind of stressed out.
Speaker 5: So they don't love it. But yeah, maybe with time,
Speaker 5: maybe if I just keep torturing both of them, they'll
Speaker 5: get into it.
Speaker 4: Time. Heals all dog truck, My.
Speaker 1: Little dog that loves She loves the car. But she
Speaker 1: always knows when we're home because I do this really
Speaker 1: hard left into the driveway that I don't ever make
Speaker 1: in any other situation. So that's when she knows we're
Speaker 1: home and that she she has like this bed that
Speaker 1: is like in the front seat and it's got like
Speaker 1: a little harnessed it's like her seat belt. And she
Speaker 1: just really loves the car.
Speaker 5: Oh, she's very comfortable in it.
Speaker 4: I love for your dog.
Speaker 1: She's sweet.
Speaker 4: I'm not like it's uh Chihuahua and maybe something else.
Speaker 1: She's Chuahua Dalmatian mixed, but I don't.
Speaker 4: See the Dalmatian. I don't neither at all. Would not
Speaker 4: expect that dog to fight fire.
Speaker 1: Is she is?
Speaker 5: She bigger than a regular Chua.
Speaker 1: She's so she's about five pounds and a half pounds.
Speaker 4: Like it is a full on dog that you could
Speaker 4: have in this purse.
Speaker 1: Oh, Yeah, she's like a like a juicy couture ye
Speaker 1: two K.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton. That's hot dog Like it's a very little
Speaker 1: you know, the Lure track suit.
Speaker 4: Your dog is a Los Angeles when I moved here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 5: Very Melrose in two thousand and two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and needly forget the movie Beverly Hills Chihuahua. Yeah,
Speaker 4: very that.
Speaker 5: Your dog always has her midro showing.
Speaker 1: She's really into crop tops and.
Speaker 5: She's a very belly chains.
Speaker 1: Belly chains. And Matt pilates, she does a lot of
Speaker 1: mat plata.
Speaker 5: He keeps it tight.
Speaker 4: But your dog's eyes, there's so much. I just was
Speaker 4: staring into that dog's eyes.
Speaker 1: She loves men. Oh, she loves men so much it's
Speaker 1: really embarrassing.
Speaker 4: So I shouldn't have taken it personally.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just she loves any man any like she
Speaker 1: just and she loves all of the men of Largo
Speaker 1: in particular, like Flanny and and and my goal.
Speaker 4: And yeah, she loves she loves guys. That show that
Speaker 4: I was honored to do was very a very magical night.
Speaker 4: And I don't say that phrase ever, but it's.
Speaker 1: A great it's a great I wish that Karen would
Speaker 1: do the show with me. I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: we can do some comedy.
Speaker 5: I think, can you people treat it up?
Speaker 1: We should do our thirtieth anniversary of the People Tree
Speaker 1: up and bring Bruce and Sue.
Speaker 4: What it's the People Tree?
Speaker 5: Margaret and I. I can't believe I've never told you this,
Speaker 5: Margaret and I what year was that? Like ninety seven?
Speaker 5: Ninety six?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was like ninety six.
Speaker 5: We wrote a sketch show and just put it up
Speaker 5: and it was like me, Margaret, we had Jeff hats
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 1: We Jeff was really great at Bruce Daniels, Bruce Daniels,
Speaker 1: Stey mcculluch, Y McCullough, John Travis, Oh, John Travis, and
Speaker 1: John Travis was kind of like he was more of
Speaker 1: an outer member, so he was moving more like the
Speaker 1: Buck Henry or he would have maybe done like mister
Speaker 1: Bill kind of sketches like he was sort of a
Speaker 1: little bit like outside of it but still in it.
Speaker 5: Honorary.
Speaker 1: And so the sketches we did, we had two picture
Speaker 1: frames and then we would put the sketches happening in
Speaker 1: the comedy were happening in.
Speaker 5: The sketch the picture frames, Yeah, so I remember.
Speaker 1: And then we did something ap parroting the Canadian Broadcasting
Speaker 1: Company at some kind of like it was like a
Speaker 1: Canadian children's show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't it was a teen show. I shudder
Speaker 5: to think what those sketches were like. I know there
Speaker 5: was one where like you were winning an award and
Speaker 5: then I was at home, like in my picture of Rame,
Speaker 5: I was drunk at home. Remember that one where I
Speaker 5: was just kind of like it's my time. It was
Speaker 5: very like a little bit Gray Gardens is funny, nervous breakdown.
Speaker 5: There were some highlights, there were some low lights.
Speaker 1: I think you broke your leg too.
Speaker 5: I broke my ankle at that fucking theater in Santa Monica.
Speaker 4: Yeah, during I strained.
Speaker 5: I did this thing when we were rehearsing and I
Speaker 5: was like, I have to go to the bathroom, and
Speaker 5: I ran across this stage did a jump just because
Speaker 5: I was like so happy and having so much fun.
Speaker 5: When I landed, I was I landed right on a
Speaker 5: black wire that didn't have any like warning tape on it,
Speaker 5: and so I just slid and then rolled my ankle
Speaker 5: and then just had this fuck up ankle.
Speaker 4: When people get punished for having fun.
Speaker 5: That's what it felt like. It was very dramatic.
Speaker 4: Did I tell you about the time that I was
Speaker 4: Howard Kramer's backup dancer and broke my arm during a
Speaker 4: show and did not know. I did the diving worm
Speaker 4: and there was a mattress and I missed the mattress,
Speaker 4: but I continued to dance shit and found out later
Speaker 4: that I had broken my arm.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, surprisingly, though there's many there's a whole spectrum when
Speaker 4: it comes to arm breaking, and mine was at the very.
Speaker 5: Low hairline fracture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hairline or green stick as they often say. Oh,
Speaker 4: but not as often as hairline. So why did I
Speaker 4: even say didn't cast? I didn't. It was too late.
Speaker 4: It it healed on its own.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you powered through it. Sorry, Margaret. I'm just
Speaker 5: randomly driving. Do you want me to take you anywhere specific?
Speaker 5: Or should we just drive around?
Speaker 1: We can drive around. I was thinking. I suggested the
Speaker 1: Korean market, but that's very close to here, which if
Speaker 1: you wanted to go there, you could just go right
Speaker 1: okay here or towards the right.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, when I when I mentioned that we will
Speaker 4: take you somewhere, I didn't realize. I didn't mean to
Speaker 4: plant the idea that we would go into the market
Speaker 4: and be able to record. We aren't that mobile, even
Speaker 4: though we're in a car.
Speaker 1: Well, then let's just strive.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, we're fine but perfect.
Speaker 4: If you had planned and brought a list for the
Speaker 4: Korean market, we can go there.
Speaker 5: No, it's all right. Are you going to get a
Speaker 5: bunch of those really awesome gummies that are like Kiwi
Speaker 5: flavored and shit, and they can get from here?
Speaker 1: They're all like individually packed. They're so good.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do love it.
Speaker 1: Very realistic grape flavors. All of those gummies are really
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 5: A white grape gummy like you didn't know you wanted
Speaker 5: it until you're eating it.
Speaker 1: It's so delicious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're our whole lives. We just assume that it's
Speaker 4: okay that purple grape flavor that's not as nowhere near
Speaker 4: what grape is. It's a candy flavor, right.
Speaker 1: But those Asian like a muscat grape or very real,
Speaker 1: hyper realistic, but not there's not really a real flavor.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. They're trying to match a thing.
Speaker 5: I really because of my deep passion for gummy candies.
Speaker 5: I had no idea how good the and is it
Speaker 5: Korean or is it Japanese?
Speaker 1: I think the ones that you are specifically thinking of
Speaker 1: a Japanese or they're individually wrapped once. The kiwi ones
Speaker 1: are Japanese.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of racist that I'm even talking.
Speaker 1: About No, no, no, I mean it's they're all sort of
Speaker 1: like all marketed to them. Asia is like a big,
Speaker 1: big They're all kind of the same in a way. Yes,
Speaker 1: that like School of Candy and the peach ones that's
Speaker 1: very Japanese.
Speaker 5: Like a white peach, Oh yeah, so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 4: I think I've only had white peach and tea form.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it seems like a tea flavor.
Speaker 1: It's a but the the candy. I love a sour
Speaker 1: cola bottle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: I haven't had one of those since I was ten.
Speaker 5: I feel like the cola ones, the coke bottles are
Speaker 5: harder to chew than all of the gummies.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: The biggest challenge, well, they're trying to remind you then
Speaker 4: in real life they are indeed made of glass, right,
Speaker 4: so much like the you know when you're you're you're
Speaker 4: digging into a whole bowl of runts and then you
Speaker 4: come upon the banana. It's just reminding you don't bite
Speaker 4: into a banana peel. That's why they're rock hard.
Speaker 1: The runs are the ones that are they have like
Speaker 1: a little hard banana.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ye, so hard, I guess because they're longer. And
Speaker 4: they were like, hey, these are getting brittle in the bag.
Speaker 4: What do we do. Let's make them tooth chippingly hard
Speaker 4: and that they'll maintain their integrity.
Speaker 5: The kids will love the integrity.
Speaker 4: I just love miniatures, and I love the through of
Speaker 4: the loom logo, and I love tiny fruit. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna hide it anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: You know it's so good, it's so yeah, my mouth
Speaker 1: is really watering.
Speaker 5: If you had to. If we were to stop at
Speaker 5: any store right now.
Speaker 4: Uh oh uh?
Speaker 5: All the time?
Speaker 4: Do we do it?
Speaker 5: Should we go there?
Speaker 4: Margaret? We used to always go through the Starbucks drive through,
Speaker 4: so much so that at any time I have a show,
Speaker 4: I would receive Starbucks cards and I through the entire
Speaker 4: pandemic live off of them.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: It's been a year since I received one, and now
Speaker 4: I'm not Let's do it.
Speaker 5: We got to do it.
Speaker 4: Right your set the other night. You're very good at
Speaker 4: stand up and it was fun to watch and I
Speaker 4: learned from watching you. But also You're audiences was ridiculously great.
Speaker 5: They were wonderful. I mean you, you're so funny.
Speaker 4: They were enjoying the way I was talking.
Speaker 5: I just they loved you so much.
Speaker 4: I thank you.
Speaker 1: They really loved you.
Speaker 4: I think I wasn't fishing for a complimentary no, but
Speaker 4: they feel great.
Speaker 5: They were so enamored with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's one of those situations where you're just talking
Speaker 4: in between jokes, and that was getting laughed since I thought, well, wait,
Speaker 4: are they making fun of me because I stammer and
Speaker 4: I'm not riddled with confidence, you know, because that's never
Speaker 4: been my thing. But they were just great. I just
Speaker 4: realized halfway through, like, oh, this is going well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: Building.
Speaker 5: Does everyone just want to order for themselves?
Speaker 4: I think we should. This is very exciting. We haven't
Speaker 4: done this for years, and I wanted to let the
Speaker 4: briest and know we haven't done this in years.
Speaker 5: Hi, I'll take a tall mocha with just one pump
Speaker 5: of mocha in it, please.
Speaker 4: I will have a grande iced coffee with some almond
Speaker 4: milk and I'll get one pump, also a vanilla.
Speaker 1: I would like a cookies and cream cake pop.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I will never learn their sizes.
Speaker 5: Why not, it's been twenty nine years.
Speaker 4: You would think would be Oh, I don't know the
Speaker 4: tallest one, but it's in fact small.
Speaker 5: Right, so it's always befuddled me.
Speaker 4: Sounds huge and then VENTI sounds like something you say
Speaker 4: when you say goodbye at a party where people kiss
Speaker 4: each other on the cheek. Karen went to Italy.
Speaker 5: I just came back from Italy.
Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, for a month.
Speaker 5: My glasses are so dirty. I look like a dirty well.
Speaker 4: Oh I thought they were broken one pair of glasses.
Speaker 5: No, no, oh that's yeah, that's as mudge.
Speaker 4: You know what. This is going to blow your mind.
Speaker 4: Watch this. I'm sorry that I'm being so aggressive. Don't
Speaker 4: watch this.
Speaker 1: Whoa, no way.
Speaker 4: This is a glasses cleaner that I keep in my
Speaker 4: pocket like a weirdo. Oh and I've lost my phone.
Speaker 4: I'm new to glasses, and so I get frustrated that
Speaker 4: they're always dirty. But if you just put these in
Speaker 4: your pocket, all types of pocket residue and oils. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and this just fits in its little coin.
Speaker 5: Purse, so it has its own yeah older, Yeah, nice,
Speaker 5: thank you. I really needed that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those were it's shockingly yeah, it's really. This is
Speaker 4: more time than I usually spend.
Speaker 5: It looks like I kind of slept face down on
Speaker 5: like a cheese pizza, isn't it well when you look
Speaker 5: through them continually that you don't see the dirt.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean they're going to be like new.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It's like you're in Italy again with the clear skies
Speaker 4: and then I don't know you saw it the first time.
Speaker 5: Perfect?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: So Margaret, you got to do a Margaret and Friends
Speaker 5: at Largo show like it was like.
Speaker 1: Like it was two thousand and three, and I do.
Speaker 1: I actually have a monthly there, so you should come
Speaker 1: and do the show with me. I love to, and
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's like month like every month, one
Speaker 1: or two months or something.
Speaker 5: But it's fun and you've been doing it, so are
Speaker 5: you like doing it? I've been building another hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it's never like, uh, it's so weird,
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean I always try to do shows
Speaker 1: like there and then go on the road.
Speaker 5: I don't really do that much other stuff in town.
Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine it's is it hard for you to just
Speaker 4: show up? I would imagine it being hard for you
Speaker 4: to just do shows and not have there be chaos?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's it's more that I just don't
Speaker 5: like to drive them.
Speaker 1: So lazy.
Speaker 4: Oh gotcha. So it's the same reason I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm so lazy.
Speaker 5: But if I had a car like this, I might so.
Speaker 4: That ooh boy, that was a pump up flavor. I
Speaker 4: have more of a sweet tooth now that I've stopped drinking.
Speaker 5: So wait, are you saying that you that Largo that
Speaker 5: show is basically what you do in town. Yeah, now
Speaker 5: that you have like a monthly show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really.
Speaker 5: Do very many other things in town. I mean because
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm just so like I don't
Speaker 1: want to leave my house ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, there's always the gamble of most shows not
Speaker 4: being fulfilling, and then you you get a bad read
Speaker 4: on a joke or.
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't know. Oh, like I kind
Speaker 1: of don't. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess I just don't like to I just don't
Speaker 5: like to drive around that much.
Speaker 1: But if I really need to do something, then I'll
Speaker 1: definitely go out and do more shows. I As I
Speaker 1: get older, I'm so less inclined to be out every
Speaker 1: at clubs every night. I think there's something about that.
Speaker 1: Some comics really still do love that, they love to
Speaker 1: just go to leath clubs and hang out. I just
Speaker 1: don't like it that much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I never did. I just keep doing it
Speaker 4: because I still have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: Like when we were younger, we would never at home.
Speaker 5: We'd go out every night. It was it was all
Speaker 5: I wanted to do every single night. Yeah, And it
Speaker 5: was like not even a choice. It was just kind
Speaker 5: of like we would plan like that. The show was automatic,
Speaker 5: and then it's like and should we go to dinner?
Speaker 5: And should we?
Speaker 1: And we'll go to Fellini's and then.
Speaker 5: We'll go we do four things.
Speaker 1: Every night was a show, like it was like Monday
Speaker 1: was like Largo, or Sunday was on cabaret, Monday was Largo, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: I don't know, freestyle mm hmm. Every night there was something, yeah,
Speaker 1: or somebody would be in town.
Speaker 5: Yes, you'd go. Sometimes you would the very bittersweet times
Speaker 5: where it would be us going to see someone else
Speaker 5: do it and then it would just make me want
Speaker 5: to do it more the next night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like Mister Show's tapings yep, because Karen Karen
Speaker 1: was in Mister Show, so that you were like always
Speaker 1: going to those too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Did they tape them at Largo?
Speaker 1: No, they taped them on where was it?
Speaker 5: It was Hollywood Center maybe yeah, yeah, one of those
Speaker 5: those two are really similar to the Hollywood Center studios
Speaker 5: and the other one Sunset Gower, Yeah, maybe, I think.
Speaker 1: And then there was like a Fraser Rap party we
Speaker 1: would like go to, like a Fraser Rap party, you know,
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter, there'd be something we'd just get on the
Speaker 1: list of some party that we would we would no
Speaker 1: businesspan Thursday night we had this thing called.
Speaker 5: Cocktail Club, oh shit.
Speaker 1: And it was a place where you know, you would
Speaker 1: have a party from about six thirty to eight thirty
Speaker 1: and you would go and it was a little bit
Speaker 1: like swing dancing but no dancing.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was very mid nineties. Also. Cocktail Club like
Speaker 5: was started by Richard Rushfield and his friend and then
Speaker 5: we got in there and took over and turned it
Speaker 5: into a barn burner like tear down alcoholism party where
Speaker 5: the person who started it wanted to do like a
Speaker 5: we'll play pink Bartini in the background and be classy,
Speaker 5: and we're like, no, we're drinking straight out of this
Speaker 5: handle of vodka and we're gonna fucking get some shit done.
Speaker 5: And then the girl, the girl quit cocktail club, and
Speaker 5: then all of our front we just took over and
Speaker 5: then it was our thing.
Speaker 1: Very rude, but it was a place where you could
Speaker 1: meet all sorts of people like wearing vintage clothes, hats,
Speaker 1: squirrel nut zippers, might or might not be playing.
Speaker 5: There was Yeah, there was a lot of like did
Speaker 5: you read blank in the La Weekly. There was a
Speaker 5: lot of you know, local journalism warning us about scientology
Speaker 5: mm hmm, important stuff, clothes, cigarettes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, you're painting a real picture. And it
Speaker 4: is the movie Swingers.
Speaker 1: It's very much. It sort of predates the movie Swingers
Speaker 1: and then happened simultaneously concurrently with the movie Swingers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that movie had me taking swing dance lessons.
Speaker 5: It was that did you really? Oh yeah, did you really?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes? And I had a partner, I had a sub
Speaker 4: for in when that partner wouldn't show up, and I
Speaker 4: may or may not have borne a tiny hat. Wow.
Speaker 4: It was a little phase and my my skater friends
Speaker 4: didn't know about it. There was I just went with
Speaker 4: my pal Zach and we would go to swing class.
Speaker 4: But it was it was during that time that the
Speaker 4: you know, the third wave of SKA was I had.
Speaker 4: I was listening to music with horns and it.
Speaker 5: Was like, it's a very cherry pop and daddy.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love that music when it first came out,
Speaker 4: and never liked the name, of course.
Speaker 5: But we used to go see Skank and Pickle a
Speaker 5: lot live. That was a that was a part of.
Speaker 4: Our would Yes, I would listen to Skank and Pickle
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love they.
Speaker 4: Still they rule.
Speaker 1: They're the best I know.
Speaker 5: They had a song called Margaret Show.
Speaker 1: Yes, they wrote a song for me, and they were
Speaker 1: such nice guys and I still am in contact with
Speaker 1: some of them. But they, I mean, skas often misunderstood.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I do too. I'm glad I can be open about that.
Speaker 4: I really still do. I know I was pretending that
Speaker 4: I said I used.
Speaker 5: To, but I really it's it's such an up vibe,
Speaker 5: like it really is a good you know, that's a
Speaker 5: good palette cleanser if you need some energy and some positivity, right,
Speaker 5: But I would like to go back to you taking
Speaker 5: swing dancing lessons, because then was the goal of that
Speaker 5: to then go to a club and swing dance with
Speaker 5: a stranger?
Speaker 4: Well, uh, yeah, it was it. I thought it was
Speaker 4: a healthy way to maybe meet someone in my small town, okay,
Speaker 4: and there were a few places that had bands that
Speaker 4: required that kind of dancing.
Speaker 5: So and do it work?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh oh god, I raked it in a kid
Speaker 4: raked it in. I'm talking about people, for God's sake.
Speaker 4: I yes, that was the reason. And it was fun
Speaker 4: and like if you grow up going to punk rock
Speaker 4: and metal shows, it's a show where everyone leaves happy.
Speaker 4: But there are elements of the music that I like.
Speaker 4: I wanted to learn how.
Speaker 1: To dance that way, so then everybody's doing the same choreography.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, there was. The class I took was more
Speaker 4: like traditional swing, so I'd actually end up going to
Speaker 4: kind of country music shows. Like it was. It was
Speaker 4: not ballroom. I should remember the types of swing, but
Speaker 4: it really is the same rudimentary body movement.
Speaker 5: It's just did you ever flip anybody up over your
Speaker 5: own hat?
Speaker 4: To each side and between the legs. You bet for real.
Speaker 4: I kind of overused the spinning thing, but it's a
Speaker 4: good thing to do when you don't know what to do.
Speaker 4: It's been hold in back to her, back to my
Speaker 4: chest and then out. I would do that three or
Speaker 4: four times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, something scary. Yeah, that's a lot. Were they wearing
Speaker 5: saddle shoes? Did you wear saddle shoes?
Speaker 4: I know, I think I just wore skate sneakers. I
Speaker 4: didn't get into the foot where I want to.
Speaker 1: Penny loafers, wing tips.
Speaker 4: Yes, I wanted something. Yeah, you're right, I don't remember
Speaker 4: what was on my feet. I know I never wore
Speaker 4: a slippery shoe.
Speaker 5: Wait, this reminds me. Sorry to sidebar to Margaret, but
Speaker 5: this makes me think of that bar. Do you remember
Speaker 5: the Deluxe in San Francisco that was in the upper
Speaker 5: height and all the people that worked there dressed like
Speaker 5: they were from the forties. Yes, And it was super
Speaker 5: like intense cause playing the forties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were like so vintage that you just
Speaker 1: like smelled them coming. They with the mothball smell and
Speaker 1: they were really just seriously very with the high eyebrows
Speaker 1: and very like red lip that was really dry.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: But one lady looked exactly like Veronica Lake, like that
Speaker 5: was kind of her thing. And one time she came
Speaker 5: into the gap when I was working there, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 5: Ronica Lake is in real life. Like the only time
Speaker 5: we ever saw her was in that bar. That was
Speaker 5: such a weird fucking time. It was like all of
Speaker 5: culture was like, well, what do we do now, Like
Speaker 5: we've already done the seventies, we did punk. I guess
Speaker 5: now we just go back to the forties, like we're
Speaker 5: starting over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that prohibition thing.
Speaker 1: Well, the nineties does forties. Yeah, But then the intense
Speaker 1: people that live so vintage that to me, it's like
Speaker 1: really exhausting. Yeah, to be that vintage it is.
Speaker 4: I love that you could smell mothballs other clothing of
Speaker 4: people that have passed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just start, you know. To me, it's just
Speaker 1: very But it reminds me of also where I know
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. You know that the rock star. She's Pearl
Speaker 1: She was in a band called Pearl Harbor and the Explosions.
Speaker 4: And I've never heard that.
Speaker 5: Man is the lady that's really tall?
Speaker 1: Uh No, she's probably about my hype. But she was
Speaker 1: married to Paul uh from the clash Paul simonon Oh Shit,
Speaker 1: and she had moved into the hood, and she said,
Speaker 1: the only way that you can be safe in the
Speaker 1: hood if you're not like from there, is to dress
Speaker 1: as rockabilly as possible. Then that's sort of a weird
Speaker 1: cloak of invisibility. So if you're really rockabilly that you
Speaker 1: no one pays attention to you, you have I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe people think that you're just down. Oh it's really interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now I'm remembering that I did wear a
Speaker 4: series of western shirts. Oh so kind of rockabilly. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm afraid.
Speaker 1: So we'll also swing dancing.
Speaker 4: Yes, very I used to be good at multitasking. But
Speaker 4: it also I moved to Austin, Texas in like two
Speaker 4: thousand and three, where I first saw you perform Margaret
Speaker 4: and also you were you were the first comic that
Speaker 4: was political and you were speaking out of all of Austin,
Speaker 4: Texas didn't care for w Bush, but you actually talked
Speaker 4: about it on stage, and.
Speaker 5: I had never what'd she say? Can you remember her jokes?
Speaker 4: She didn't like him?
Speaker 1: But you know, now, I really, I know, I really
Speaker 1: really like I really like him.
Speaker 5: I miss him.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, yeah, how precious, how cute?
Speaker 5: How cute Republicans you be like, how adorable?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think we we know now that he was just
Speaker 4: kind of being used as a puppet and didn't really
Speaker 4: maybe fully realize everything, like the New the New.
Speaker 1: He was a baby. He just kind of got he
Speaker 1: got caught up in it.
Speaker 5: He was the ultimate.
Speaker 1: He was the ultimate Nepo baby. He just kind of
Speaker 1: like was born into it, didn't know how to say no.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would actually be a really good new version
Speaker 5: of succession is the Bush family succession story? Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: with h Walker whatever. That guy's name is some old
Speaker 5: me and one being me and to W.
Speaker 4: Well, oh yeah, that movie Vice kind of opened my eyes.
Speaker 5: A little bit to what he was really like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was funny. I remember it. South By
Speaker 4: Southwest there was a documentary called Journeys with George where
Speaker 4: there's correspondent traveled with al Alan Tippergore in one plane
Speaker 4: and then also on George Bush's plane, and everyone went
Speaker 4: there wanting to hate on w and he was just
Speaker 4: so likable in the thing that it really the audience
Speaker 4: left confused because on his plane there was a margarita
Speaker 4: machine and it's like dancing for the camera and just
Speaker 4: seemed sort of fun. And then then cut to Alan Tippergren.
Speaker 4: She'd be taking the F word out of rap music
Speaker 4: and he was reading about methane farts and or global warming,
Speaker 4: and it was just and there's classical music and they
Speaker 4: just seem less fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're definitely less fun. I just saw TikTok though,
Speaker 5: speaking of that of but it was a really old SNL.
Speaker 5: It was like one of the first What's Up with That?
Speaker 5: You know, Keenan Thompson is the guy does the whole
Speaker 5: long song and the two guests on What's Up with That?
Speaker 5: Were Al Gore and I can't It was an actress,
Speaker 5: some actress that looked like she had been trapped there.
Speaker 5: It was like Kristin Stewart or somebody. Al Gore is
Speaker 5: a really funny person to put in a sketch to
Speaker 5: be boring, because his voice is like it seems like
Speaker 5: he's doing a voice of a boring person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he so would. Yeah, he's like the most wood man.
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine like having to eat dinner with that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be like eating with the table, only
Speaker 1: because he's extreme Wood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's extreme Wood.
Speaker 5: He's he's like particle board Wood. We're just like, sir,
Speaker 5: we're actually and g Dubbs, it's like, yeah, he was
Speaker 5: a terrible public speaker and you know, mishandled nine to
Speaker 5: eleven and a war criminal.
Speaker 1: But but.
Speaker 5: You know he's got like that, you know, like he's
Speaker 5: like he's up for a good time.
Speaker 1: It's just sad, like it's something kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: it's but this is like compared to the Republicans of now,
Speaker 1: who are just I don't even know what's going on.
Speaker 5: They're straight up fucking Nazis. Yeah, yeah, they've they've totally
Speaker 5: unmasked in a way that's like no one is ready
Speaker 5: for this ship. No, it's horrible, and they're but what's
Speaker 5: cool is and sorry because I am fully addicted to
Speaker 5: TikTok and can't stop the me too. I love it
Speaker 5: so much. And there's all these people, these up and
Speaker 5: comers and politics that are just fucking going head dead
Speaker 5: with them and being like fuck you, it's so great.
Speaker 5: And that's a lot of like like you can tell
Speaker 5: they're like women who are like, hey, I was just
Speaker 5: planning on being like a mom and you know, maybe
Speaker 5: having my own small business and instead I have to
Speaker 5: go take on the government.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well everyone has a voice now and it's empowering
Speaker 4: and it's happening. It's kind of cool, it is, That's.
Speaker 1: What it's good about TikTok. But then you get onto
Speaker 1: like the alt right TikTok, which is so gross and
Speaker 1: so depressing and disgusting, or the turf TikTok makes me sick.
Speaker 5: Those people are so mad mentally ill.
Speaker 1: They're mentally ill, but they're just so like smug about it,
Speaker 1: using the bowl glamor filter to like just talk talk
Speaker 1: shit about, like being mad at Britney Grinder for hating America,
Speaker 1: which is like the dumbest you don't even know, Like
Speaker 1: they're like all these other people need to be saved
Speaker 1: from Russian prison, but you didn't even know their name,
Speaker 1: yeah right until this week. Like you're just like making
Speaker 1: shit up. It's just sick.
Speaker 4: How do you watch that side's view on TikTok without
Speaker 4: it changing your phone's algorithm into thinking that's what you
Speaker 4: want to see.
Speaker 1: It's stitched usually by somebody who is like an progressive
Speaker 1: who's making a talk, making a statement about it because
Speaker 1: I really get scared that I might get on that side.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want those people.
Speaker 4: Every once in a while I see them try and
Speaker 4: flirt with me and I'm like, why is this in
Speaker 4: my and I flag it and go like not everything
Speaker 4: I can. Yeah, but then I don't know what it's
Speaker 4: important to keep your enemies close.
Speaker 5: As they say, well, I love when those people when
Speaker 5: the TikTok starts and it's one of those people saying
Speaker 5: they're weird bullshit, and then someone interrupts, but they're not
Speaker 5: doing like a debate style argument. It's just like, have
Speaker 5: you ever seen that guy does? He's doing like an
Speaker 5: old fashioned song and dance to the song called Shut
Speaker 5: the fuck Up. I think he's like a Broadway dancer
Speaker 5: because he has an amazing body and he's like seems
Speaker 5: like a highly trained dancer with like the big thigh muscle. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but he's doing like a tippity tap with a cane.
Speaker 5: It's so fucking funny, and it's like, shut the fuck up,
Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up, and it's that Those are my
Speaker 5: favorite when people are so funny.
Speaker 1: It's so it's just really I love how when a
Speaker 1: song will take over to that stake, so this week.
Speaker 5: It's like one margarita.
Speaker 1: I'll go over my legs.
Speaker 5: Two margaritas that would give me three baggers.
Speaker 1: I'll put it in, I'll put it in and then
Speaker 1: it just cuts out.
Speaker 4: It's like that Eddie Murphy is a little man. It's
Speaker 4: just a list of things.
Speaker 1: That's right. It bo put it tim Chamu, that's right,
Speaker 1: put a tin can, put a little tiny man in
Speaker 1: your butt.
Speaker 5: That was He was way the funk ahead of his time,
Speaker 5: that Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1: That was a good song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so funny.
Speaker 4: That was his forat and making things for children because
Speaker 4: I was a kid that loved that song so much.
Speaker 1: Book in Your Butt was really was. It was a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bop. It's a good one.
Speaker 5: It's huge. It's huge.
Speaker 4: The things you can do uh well on rowdy powder
Speaker 4: at uh oh. He made that music with Rick j
Speaker 4: Rick James Rick James's House.
Speaker 5: But the Other Party all the Time is a really
Speaker 5: good song.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 5: It's it just is again.
Speaker 4: Cocaine a really good voice.
Speaker 1: I mean he's always had a really music like a
Speaker 1: musicality to his comedy and his you know, yes, everything
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 4: Margaret. Have you you've made music before? Right. Have you
Speaker 4: ever sang in a band?
Speaker 1: Yes, I sing in a couple of bands. I have
Speaker 1: a band with a bunch of people from Wilco and
Speaker 1: actually a member of Crowded House my part, and it's
Speaker 1: called Bros Before Chose. It's so stupid and with really
Speaker 1: dumb songs.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying in a few bands, but it never
Speaker 3: quite stuck, like you know. And I also again, I
Speaker 3: hate carrying shit, so I'm never good. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: be good in a band because I don't want to
Speaker 3: carry anything to the venue or carry anything out.
Speaker 5: It's so embarrassing because you did this for a while too.
Speaker 5: You did guitar some guitar songs when you would go
Speaker 5: do comedy shows. And when I was doing the same thing,
Speaker 5: it was so motherfucking humiliating. Every time I would show
Speaker 5: up somewhere with my big dumb guitar, I would just
Speaker 5: be like, why am I doing this to myself? Like
Speaker 5: this is it's so all the other comics are just
Speaker 5: standing around normal, and then I'm still and they're like
Speaker 5: leaning against a big.
Speaker 1: Old acoustic guitar case, just humiliating. It's just so big
Speaker 1: and heavy, and I just don't want to carry it,
Speaker 1: and then I don't want to soundtrack, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to tune it, and then if I'm done with
Speaker 1: something on but then it's just sitting there and I'm
Speaker 1: not a good player necessarily, so it's not even like
Speaker 1: I can noodle on it.
Speaker 5: It's just it's a hassle. It is true, a true hassle.
Speaker 4: Did you have something with Broken Social Scene?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm actually in that band, tu, but I've never played.
Speaker 4: That is the recess of my brain.
Speaker 1: I've never played a gig with them, yet I'm in
Speaker 1: the band.
Speaker 4: That's amazing. They're one of my favorites of all.
Speaker 1: But there's so many people in it, Like so you
Speaker 1: could just say you're in it?
Speaker 4: Are you? Do you know Emily Hines?
Speaker 1: I don't know Emily. I know Kevin Okay, So he
Speaker 1: said I could be in it, and that I am
Speaker 1: in it if I if I'm asked in the future
Speaker 1: that i'm and I'm still in it.
Speaker 5: I love it so so like if you ever are
Speaker 5: on the road and they're on the road and you
Speaker 5: play in the same city on the same night, I
Speaker 5: can go.
Speaker 1: And and I told him I'll be walking backwards on
Speaker 1: stage playing the Triangle and I'll still be in it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm in it, but that's not I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff with Canadian musicians like a Cy Newman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh he's my favorite. His solo album is actually
Speaker 4: what got me into the New Pornographers and Emily Hines
Speaker 4: or the metric is what got me in.
Speaker 1: I love metrics and I love stars.
Speaker 4: Maybe I should have just moved to Canada.
Speaker 1: They have They have really good music because everywhere it's cold.
Speaker 5: Great bands, Yeah they have to go in the basement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only warm place it's the studio.
Speaker 1: So it's cold, like like Belle and Sebastian, that's the
Speaker 1: best band because it's cold. Yeah, they got to go inside.
Speaker 4: There is something to that.
Speaker 5: It's true. They they said that's why grunge exploded the
Speaker 5: way it did is because everyone and so cool Seattle
Speaker 5: and Portland was stuck inside.
Speaker 4: Just trying to stay dry.
Speaker 5: Speaking which it's like almost the beginning of June and
Speaker 5: it's raining, popular summer and yeah we're in this is
Speaker 5: like where out the Avenue is in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Let's yeah where I'm from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of sporadic sprinkles, I have to I hate
Speaker 4: doing this, but it's a certain age. I just have
Speaker 4: to use the well.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've been in this car for three fucking hours.
Speaker 4: It's well. I added coffee to it. And it's a
Speaker 4: really real Billy Wayne Davis episode where I remember I
Speaker 4: had to go into his house, use the bathroom and
Speaker 4: wake up a baby. But I'm just going to add
Speaker 4: that to Okay, we can do that. I can even
Speaker 4: go into whatever.
Speaker 5: Ever, what's everest? I can't get over.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I imagine they have a mountain
Speaker 4: themed bathroom.
Speaker 1: Can you go into the original Tarioc bowl?
Speaker 4: I wonder if they have a restaurant.
Speaker 5: But they don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know all the remakes. Help wanted.
Speaker 5: Hold on, let's see what's on the right.
Speaker 4: Bad news. I didn't use the bathroom. Good news, I
Speaker 4: got a job.
Speaker 5: What we in right now?
Speaker 1: I think we're in Tonga, Carol, there's a martial arts studio.
Speaker 4: I have to go to the bathroom. Can you guys
Speaker 4: just kick me in the groy?
Speaker 1: Can you find uh times for list? No? I thought
Speaker 1: that was a Tim Horton.
Speaker 5: Speak Oftons. Oh there's a British store, not a bar.
Speaker 4: Okay, I hate.
Speaker 5: Okay, we're back at Starbucks. Okay, so we went to
Speaker 5: we purchased something.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I'll have the evidence in my hands.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: Uh, you two can talk amongst yourself and yourselves in.
Speaker 5: Ketchup and oh we will.
Speaker 4: I will be back shortly. Well, let's be honest, when
Speaker 4: I was in my twenties, it'll take me now. It's
Speaker 4: just a narrow urethra okay.
Speaker 5: And then you're fine. You're fine.
Speaker 4: It's an urgency. The funny thing is I'll be standing there. Well,
Speaker 4: no one wants to hear my man.
Speaker 5: Please don't go into it.
Speaker 4: It's just the urgency. And then it doesn't come out. Okay. Oh,
Speaker 4: the and the I always forget about the mic.
Speaker 5: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: We see you soon, okay.
Speaker 1: Hi hi hi hi, hi hi hi.
Speaker 5: It's nice to see you. I know, I wish I
Speaker 5: could have gone to Italy too. What did you do?
Speaker 5: We just so you know, my sister's friend Adrian that
Speaker 5: I also grew up with. She's my friend too. But
Speaker 5: she and I and our friend Janet, who's really her friend.
Speaker 5: But Janet has a house in Kauhai and we all
Speaker 5: started going there every summer because Janet's husband died, and
Speaker 5: so it was like to kind of support her and
Speaker 5: you know, have fun summers. And my sister, who knows
Speaker 5: all of those people way better, was like, just come
Speaker 5: with us, it's really fun. So we started doing that,
Speaker 5: and then last fourth of July, which is when we
Speaker 5: usually go, everybody got COVID and it was like it
Speaker 5: kind of like every it all fell apart, like everyone
Speaker 5: kind of got in fights and was mad and stuff,
Speaker 5: and so we all decided we're not going to go
Speaker 5: to Kauai again, like anytime soon. And I was like,
Speaker 5: I'd actually like to travel, so I'd let's go somewhere
Speaker 5: we all want to go. I mean, we want to
Speaker 5: go there, but it's like, let's go somewhere fun and
Speaker 5: exciting and new. And I honestly believed during COVID that
Speaker 5: I would never get to go to Italy because I've
Speaker 5: always wanted to, and it seemed like everything was going
Speaker 5: to shut down permanently. So we kind of like a
Speaker 5: little bit on the spur of the moment where like,
Speaker 5: let's go to Italy. So we decided to go for
Speaker 5: three weeks and we went to like four different places,
Speaker 5: so we were in Tuscany and we went out to
Speaker 5: Chinkatara on the coast and where else did we go?
Speaker 5: Florence and then Lake Como at the end beautiful and
Speaker 5: it was fucking I just didn't like, you know, it's
Speaker 5: good and have you been there. It's like I just
Speaker 5: didn't understand how it's amazing.
Speaker 1: So amazing. I've never been to Lake Como. I would
Speaker 1: love to go there.
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable, like because there's these little towns that are
Speaker 5: right on the edge of the lake and then there's
Speaker 5: like a huge, crazy ass villa that like you know,
Speaker 5: the Demeticeese or whatever their name is, like built. Then
Speaker 5: there's like one of those that's up on a hill
Speaker 5: that's just falling apart because someone abandoned it one hundred
Speaker 5: years ago. Like it's very there's a lot of history
Speaker 5: and it's very cozy and very like I did. It
Speaker 5: was just amazing. I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: It's so incredible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really nice. And then it was just nice.
Speaker 5: It was like a really long vacation, which was also
Speaker 5: very nice. So it was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Florence is so beautiful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's so phenomenal. Like I love the
Speaker 1: food and I love the everything. Yeah, I love to say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we there was like, you know, three phrases that
Speaker 5: we all knew, Like we were like, we're gonna sign
Speaker 5: up for Babbel and we're all gonna learn and we
Speaker 5: literally were like garazzi, uh, you know, we learned three
Speaker 5: things chow buenos Sara and we barely knew those. So
Speaker 5: we really started like hitting those ones really hard. When
Speaker 5: people would you know, put down a plate or whatever
Speaker 5: and be like Grozzi mile, that's like the only thing
Speaker 5: you could figure out to say.
Speaker 1: It's so fun and it's just so fun to go
Speaker 1: shopping and look at the fun things in the store.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like not even like to buy, but
Speaker 1: just to look at things and just to eat.
Speaker 5: The food is just so everything is so incredible. The
Speaker 5: way they eat kind of like the way they live
Speaker 5: structured around eating makes so much sense, where it's like
Speaker 5: get up and drink coffee and eat pastry and then
Speaker 5: two hours later eat a huge lunch and then fuck
Speaker 5: around and then eat dinner at like eight or nine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that is brilliant.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so wonderful.
Speaker 5: It just I love all the food, and I.
Speaker 1: Love all of the like I love churches, I love
Speaker 1: all the weird like step like in Rome, all of
Speaker 1: the marble and the Bernini sculptures and everything's just beautiful.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that art is fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing.
Speaker 5: We were in in Florence, like when we first walked
Speaker 5: into the square where the Duelmo is and the way
Speaker 5: it's all like painted on the outside, because I was like, Oh,
Speaker 5: this is gonna beautiful. My dad actually made me watch
Speaker 5: a documentary about the Duomo because the guy that built
Speaker 5: it that he wasn't an architect. He just was like
Speaker 5: I had this plan and I'm going to build it.
Speaker 5: And then they were like it shouldn't have stayed up,
Speaker 5: and for some reason it did. Like they don't know
Speaker 5: how he did it, like you know, one of those
Speaker 5: kind of Catholic dream stories or whatever. So I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: we should go look at that, sure, whatever. But then
Speaker 5: you come around the corner and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: like the way it's painted and the way it's designed,
Speaker 5: it's just unbelievable. Did home Jim go, No, he's home.
Speaker 5: Jim's home. But he's he's good.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't.
Speaker 5: He doesn't like traveling. He's kind of like a bad hip.
Speaker 5: So Home Jim, thanks for listening to my podcast, of course,
Speaker 5: Home Jim. His thing is he went to the Lazy
Speaker 5: Boy recliner store in Santa Rosa and he walked in
Speaker 5: and bought an entire living room set that was already
Speaker 5: set up because he wanted to get one of those
Speaker 5: chairs that stands you up and dumps you out us. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: but he didn't want it to be like a weird
Speaker 5: almost like medical thing in the front room. So he
Speaker 5: got a one and then like a couch and a
Speaker 5: love seat that match, and a new coffee table and
Speaker 5: a new rug and so he like redid the front room,
Speaker 5: which he won't throw my mom's clothes away, and we're like,
Speaker 5: you redid the front room. And now he has this
Speaker 5: chair that like he's like watch this and it like
Speaker 5: stands him up and then he gets up and walks around.
Speaker 1: I know, that's great.
Speaker 5: It's the cutest.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So he's very happy with his gigantic TV and his
Speaker 5: you know, sports constantly.
Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaking of the nineties and right wing politics, that
Speaker 4: place was playing Morrissey so loud and the entire staff
Speaker 4: was like singing, like it was like a fun party
Speaker 4: in there. Oh nice, this is my favorite Starbucks.
Speaker 5: Now I wonder if they're getting ready to close.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it had a real uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's a band called Semi.
Speaker 5: I know those guys. Really you're it's yet another band.
Speaker 1: I'm not in there band, but they're they are really cool.
Speaker 4: Well, other than that song, and surprisingly, there are other
Speaker 4: songs were in some skate videos. I like them. I
Speaker 4: just no one likes that song. I think that's the
Speaker 4: Well now I feel bad. I I personally that one
Speaker 4: song isn't Their best song.
Speaker 1: Is you know what song I've been really obsessed with?
Speaker 1: And it's so weird because I've been listening to this
Speaker 1: band called Bowling for Soup. Yes, and it's like nineties,
Speaker 1: but two thou Earth was like why two KM is so?
Speaker 1: Many of their songs are so beautiful.
Speaker 4: I think once I tried to go get Let's go
Speaker 4: Bowling speaking of Scott and got Bowling for Soup instead.
Speaker 4: They're didn't give.
Speaker 1: It the Some of the arrangements are really majestic, and
Speaker 1: there is which is so surprising for a band called
Speaker 1: Bowling for soup.
Speaker 5: I know, I thought that they were. I assumed they were,
Speaker 5: like they would have been like dead Milkman style joke
Speaker 5: songs kind of, but it's you know what they're like,
Speaker 5: they're like fountains of wayne. Oh.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like that pop that it's there's like
Speaker 1: one kind of joking song that maybe gets them on
Speaker 1: the radio, but then their catalog is like so full
Speaker 1: of amazing, really wondrous pop hits. But I was just
Speaker 1: really kind of like shocked at how I've been very
Speaker 1: like listening to a lot of the Why two K
Speaker 1: songs that I missed, So that's in there, things from
Speaker 1: Dishwala and you know, things were lit and stuff.
Speaker 5: Big Rick Stewart would play for us in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Absolutely like you just there's so much music that we
Speaker 1: kind of missed. Yeah, and because I couldn't see past
Speaker 1: the ear gauges and the big wide pants. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how how deep the music actually was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really does it.
Speaker 4: I've been listening to hum which I often confused for Lit.
Speaker 1: Very very very much in that it's kind of like
Speaker 1: in that three eleven yeah kind of area.
Speaker 4: Yeah three eleven. As as Howard Kramer says the nine
Speaker 4: to eleven of bands, but I don't fully agree because
Speaker 4: I'm nostalgic for it. It reminds me of.
Speaker 5: You know, they weren't bad.
Speaker 1: I love them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, living in a snowboard house with a bunch of
Speaker 4: people that with smelly boots and that's the best time
Speaker 4: of my life.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of remember Pond. Yeah, Pond was good.
Speaker 5: I felt like there were I feel like there was one,
Speaker 5: and I felt like maybe this was a bumber shoot
Speaker 5: show or maybe we were on the road. I was
Speaker 5: opening for you, Margaret, where there was a Portland show
Speaker 5: in that crystal ballroom where the floor mouse yes, and
Speaker 5: we went and saw it wasn't Pond, but it was
Speaker 5: the one of the boys had bleach blonde hair.
Speaker 1: Was that mud honey?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 1: Clear? No?
Speaker 4: No, uh, clutch, They're gonna stop.
Speaker 5: Not the Posies, No, the Afghan Wigs. No, like younger
Speaker 5: and maybe tiny bit well not harder than the Afghan Wigs,
Speaker 5: but like, uh, a little pre emo, more in the
Speaker 5: emo direction.
Speaker 1: Oh a sidebar of the I actually accidentally asked Greg
Speaker 1: Duley on a date and then got rejected.
Speaker 5: What when did that happen?
Speaker 1: Not that long ago, super embarrassing.
Speaker 4: No, maybe he said no on accident.
Speaker 1: No, he said he was already seeing somebody and then
Speaker 1: but I I did it like the most chicken ship.
Speaker 6: Wait.
Speaker 1: If I just asked him directly, I think I probably.
Speaker 1: I mean, he seems something. I would have taken it better.
Speaker 1: But I accidentally asked him a date through somebody else,
Speaker 1: which I shouldn't have done. Oh yeah, and I should
Speaker 1: have just said it myself.
Speaker 5: Did you say, will you tell ask ask your friend?
Speaker 5: If you LEXI? It was.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like that, like I'm in second grade?
Speaker 4: Yes, no, maybe boss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so embarrassing. I'm like, oh, in my mid fifties,
Speaker 1: I can't be doing that.
Speaker 5: But look, here's the thing. Here's the upside of doing that.
Speaker 5: When when the no response came back, you were just
Speaker 5: safe at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to drive anywhere, but thank god
Speaker 1: I would have had to drive somewhere. Oh the pain
Speaker 1: so embarrassing.
Speaker 5: But what band did we go see? Oh? Vibe like
Speaker 5: more in that realm? I'm I feel like I had
Speaker 5: Todd No and the Monsters, But I feel like big
Speaker 5: head Todd in those and mud Honey were like long
Speaker 5: hair dudes and these were like the kind of a
Speaker 5: little bit after those guys in the when the short
Speaker 5: hair more Portland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, helmet sounds like helmet. I mean helmet was very hard.
Speaker 4: I can still lessen helmet and will and do well.
Speaker 1: There was one there was one place where we uh
Speaker 1: I remember that we had come in and I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but we were at the place where there was a
Speaker 1: slipknot show and we were just looking at the people
Speaker 1: in line at the slipnot show. Oh, that's an interesting.
Speaker 4: So many things you can do with those zippers?
Speaker 5: Do they look kind of like what did you say?
Speaker 4: So many things you can do with a zipper?
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, lots of zipper, lots of uh, you
Speaker 1: know people just in macrimate or like kind of a
Speaker 1: burlap sack for a fit.
Speaker 5: With one hole for an eye and a button on the.
Speaker 1: Other eye with maggot spilling out of it, you know,
Speaker 1: in a pants you could put that together. Just a
Speaker 1: quick trip to jo, you know.
Speaker 5: Last minute slip knock tickets. They have to run down
Speaker 5: to Michael's real get your shit together. They're like, are
Speaker 5: you gonna dress up as a scarecrow? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: don't it's fine, I'll do it myself. Don't try to
Speaker 5: help me.
Speaker 4: Okay, are you making clothes fashion design stuff?
Speaker 1: No? But I got rid of my uh sewing machine,
Speaker 1: and so I haven't made anything for a while. I
Speaker 1: always think that I'm going to go back to it,
Speaker 1: but my eyes are not as good as they were,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to do that.
Speaker 5: Also, my cats will rip it up.
Speaker 1: I could make cat toys, oh, that would be good,
Speaker 1: or dog toy.
Speaker 5: You were making clothes.
Speaker 1: I was making clothes and I had a little bit
Speaker 1: of a fashion line and and and stuff. But then
Speaker 1: that was kind of like I didn't I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to do it. And you have to keep on
Speaker 1: when you make clothes, like you have to do this
Speaker 1: like do a season, do a collection per season. It's
Speaker 1: just like too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these shorts you were wearing at Largo, but I
Speaker 4: want to say, le May.
Speaker 1: Gold, those are really uncomfortable and they give me such
Speaker 1: a meaty tuck. I uh meati tuck is like when
Speaker 1: you're a drag queen and you have to put your ship.
Speaker 4: Okay, and so it's what I thought.
Speaker 5: It's a meaty tuck.
Speaker 1: But I really did like the way those look.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they They're awesome and they have like fringe on
Speaker 4: them when you ruffles Karen.
Speaker 1: They're like these adult baby diaper panties. They're like pink
Speaker 1: and really like metal. They look they're made of metal.
Speaker 4: But were they pink?
Speaker 1: They're they were like silver paint.
Speaker 4: There's chos, let's go get some.
Speaker 5: Wait, and did you make those?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't make those, but that's but that's the
Speaker 1: that's the kind of esthetic. That's what I would make
Speaker 1: if I if I make clothes, I would make land.
Speaker 1: That's what I was unwearable things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the bush eyes beaning around was did you make
Speaker 4: those shorts?
Speaker 1: But I didn't make those, but I would.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Should we take you home? We're really sure? This has
Speaker 5: been long, right.
Speaker 1: It's been fun. But I don't live very far, so.
Speaker 5: You can go ahead, Okay, I to my old house.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've been to my new house if you tied,
Speaker 1: I know if my new house quite a few. I've
Speaker 1: been in this house for twenty two years.
Speaker 4: And then and then Karen revealed that it wasn't even
Speaker 4: your old house. It was a Laura.
Speaker 5: That you want to curse on? I did a weird no, no, no,
Speaker 5: not curse on. Remember Laura used to live up behind
Speaker 5: the Gilson's. I was like, oh, yeah, Laura's, oh the
Speaker 5: wooden I was combining. No, that was Beechwood, her last
Speaker 5: house before she moved. Okay, Uh so I was combining
Speaker 5: turning up your street that you do live on. But
Speaker 5: I just basically tacked that onto the top.
Speaker 1: But that's so funny. Behind girls should have just gone
Speaker 1: to Cathy Griffin's old house while you're at it.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, you have to tell me how to get okay,
Speaker 5: so make it you turn okay.
Speaker 1: Not here.
Speaker 4: As for that very visible sign.
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw your house on Architectural Digest. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, it's so beautiful. You have to come over.
Speaker 1: I would love to. I have to do cribs next week.
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm really nervous about it because I don't
Speaker 1: want to clean. Did you have to clean up? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: your house was so clean. Well, and also there's not
Speaker 1: that much shit in.
Speaker 5: It, like I I planned it that way because I'm
Speaker 5: so messy that I'm just like, if there's if everything
Speaker 5: is kind of like open, uh clean surfaces, then I
Speaker 5: can't keep it messy.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I don't know. I'm still so messy. I'm
Speaker 1: so messy and I have like just the biggest mess
Speaker 1: and they're gonna look in my refrigerator. I have so
Speaker 1: much old food in there, and they're gonna look at
Speaker 1: my closets.
Speaker 5: I don't have anything in display. Everything is like it's
Speaker 5: a mess.
Speaker 4: I would, yeah, just leave the messes that you have
Speaker 4: a funny story about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you like act like it's like diamonds where you're
Speaker 5: opening our for drum and be like, yeah, y'all, this
Speaker 5: is like this goat cheese eight months ago.
Speaker 4: It's crystal goat cheese.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so it's I'm not going to clean I
Speaker 1: don't want to clean it. I'm not. I'm rejecting like
Speaker 1: the kind of like the promise. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to clean it.
Speaker 4: I didn't know they still made cribs.
Speaker 5: It's new they do.
Speaker 4: I love it. Can I Is it a good chance
Speaker 4: for me to pimp my ride?
Speaker 5: Yes you should. They should send over a producer to
Speaker 5: be like eyeball the play and then they should clean
Speaker 5: it if they want. You know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you should be like, hey, you guys should come and
Speaker 5: clean this if you really want.
Speaker 1: Well, I said that I'm fine with them photographing whatever.
Speaker 1: It's totally okay. Just don't let the cats out, but
Speaker 1: everything is. I'm open to for them to see it all.
Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of funny too. If you
Speaker 1: go to somebody's house, like if you went to one
Speaker 1: of those things, and if their house is trashy and
Speaker 1: it's not hoarders, right, that's kind of funny.
Speaker 5: You're changing it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it could be sort of oh, this is okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Well what I saw in the background the
Speaker 4: last time we zoom podcast, and you have a very
Speaker 4: beautiful main room.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's a beautiful house.
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful house.
Speaker 1: It's a very uh, it's messy because I don't like
Speaker 1: organize anything.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, why unless you're having company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just me, so I don't really care.
Speaker 1: You know, you should give people a tour of all
Speaker 1: the different piles. You're just like, here's my mail. Sure's
Speaker 1: some stuff I'm going to take care of later. It's
Speaker 1: piles and piles of like old lip balm that I
Speaker 1: never got to the end of.
Speaker 4: When you mentioned Marjorie Taylor Green's lips.
Speaker 1: Carmacks, she has the most CarMax.
Speaker 5: So true.
Speaker 4: I love those specifics.
Speaker 1: She's so that that's just like the joke is that
Speaker 1: I think she's so dikey looking. And whenever she's on TV,
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this women's golf? Because she's so carmxed
Speaker 1: she is.
Speaker 5: She won't pick a color, she only goes.
Speaker 1: She just likes the you know, the Menthol color mental,
Speaker 1: the addictive Menthol of CarMax.
Speaker 4: She is like a Menthol cigarette.
Speaker 1: But she's she's gross.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the worst, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we we had it so good with the
Speaker 1: Republicans before we really fucked it up.
Speaker 5: Remember Nuke Gingridge. He seemed like so reasonable.
Speaker 1: Now now he seems like he's so reasonable, just like
Speaker 1: you know, do you go.
Speaker 4: That Peer one name parts often?
Speaker 5: I have not been there, but it's abandoned.
Speaker 1: It's abandoned, but there was when I lived in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: we went to Peer one and got those Papasan chairs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we put them on my patio.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yes?
Speaker 5: I do. That was our the summer of the Food
Speaker 5: Network and Xanax.
Speaker 1: That was great.
Speaker 5: Also, that red couch you got that kind of got
Speaker 5: red on our clothes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were like the white pants a little
Speaker 1: bit inspired by the khaki ads that were there swing
Speaker 1: dancing in in the gaps.
Speaker 5: We were wearing a lot of lighter colors on a
Speaker 5: red couch that we laid on all day long, and then.
Speaker 1: We would make it the red bleed onto the pants,
Speaker 1: which that doesn't happen anymore, does it with like couch colors?
Speaker 1: Or maybe because we're in a different tax.
Speaker 5: Bracket, maybe that and maybe because you got that couch
Speaker 5: up Pompa.
Speaker 1: Oh we got it a.
Speaker 7: Palmba to say that again, there's a there's a furniture
Speaker 7: store that used to be on I believe, Beverly and
Speaker 7: anytime we drive by it.
Speaker 5: Margaret got to go to Pompa and it was one
Speaker 5: of those things that like and maybe because of my
Speaker 5: excessive drinking or whatever, it would get stuck in my
Speaker 5: head of hearing you say, yeah, got to go to Bump.
Speaker 5: So years later I would like take pictures and text
Speaker 5: it to her and be.
Speaker 1: Like, I drove by Pampa and then oh, during the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter Riot, like the sort of things like
Speaker 1: the everything their windows got broken at Pompa?
Speaker 5: Did it really? I think I sent you a picture
Speaker 5: that sounds like black ops. That sounds like it was
Speaker 5: like fake, super fake.
Speaker 1: It was fake. Not really black lives matter, but it
Speaker 1: was like right wingers pretending. Yeah, ye, that's what all
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 5: Because they went and parked that old cop car that
Speaker 5: was like a Chevelle and then they lit it on
Speaker 5: fire right in right by Television City. Yeah, and everyone's
Speaker 5: standing around like what are you doing? Like the marches
Speaker 5: down there, that was crazy.
Speaker 1: There's like there was like all of these weird they're
Speaker 1: called accelerationists, and they're like trying to pretend that people
Speaker 1: that were protesting police brutality were actually doing these violent
Speaker 1: acts and that that's not the case at all.
Speaker 5: No, it was bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know, trying to blame it on this
Speaker 1: idea of antifa, which also doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The most obvious example of that was in Santa Monica.
Speaker 4: They were breaking into the Patagonia store and running out
Speaker 4: with longboards and flaps. It was footage blew my mind.
Speaker 4: But it got results protests. I'm into it. I'm into protesting.
Speaker 4: I didn't know I was not to be contra racial.
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to silence the already quiet car.
Speaker 1: I like a protest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know they work so well.
Speaker 5: Well, I like the fact that, especially compared to when
Speaker 5: I was in my twenties, and we were in our
Speaker 5: twenties and no one gave a single shit about politics
Speaker 5: in the least, like you weren't supposed to except for
Speaker 5: like Bill Clinton, ha ha ha whatever. And now people
Speaker 5: are so I mean, they're just mobilized, and it's awesome
Speaker 5: to see. Yeah, we're not leaving it to all the
Speaker 5: old people to take care of it anymore. Oh no,
Speaker 5: because they don't.
Speaker 4: Like my dad said, all the old people like him
Speaker 4: need to just die off. But then that makes me
Speaker 4: think he's talking about himself, and it makes me sad.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a nice sentiment, though I know what he means.
Speaker 4: Yes, I appreciate what he means. And no offense of
Speaker 4: your bold.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm old, I'm old, I'm we're all. Well,
Speaker 5: that's I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to be middle aged, right right.
Speaker 1: I used to think middle age was thirty.
Speaker 4: Though, right, well, the life expectancy used to be sixties
Speaker 4: back in the thirties. Back in the thirties. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was looking at I don't know why the football team
Speaker 4: from the University of Montana in the fifties and they
Speaker 4: I mean they're all at cigarettes and they're valding. They
Speaker 4: were eighteen years old, but they all looked like extras
Speaker 4: from Dick Tracy. It's just so interesting how I guess
Speaker 4: we're evolving as humans.
Speaker 5: It's also weird how getting older but then still feeling
Speaker 5: I think I still feel like twenty eight, yeah all
Speaker 5: the time. It's just a I thought it would go away. No,
Speaker 5: it doesn't go away. I mean I think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why, but I've never felt younger actually, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like just so immature and young.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. I think that that's the goal in life.
Speaker 4: We're doing it.
Speaker 1: But I did have a hemorrhoid, right, there's the little
Speaker 1: there's in there. You could have a hemorrhoid when you're young.
Speaker 4: Too, yeah, if you push too hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think mine was from excessive sitting.
Speaker 5: Oh no, well then I'm in real danger.
Speaker 4: I have to sit on one of those donuts.
Speaker 5: I think I do need like a donut, like a
Speaker 5: hemorrhoid pillow.
Speaker 4: I just used my airline neck pillow.
Speaker 1: Oh just sit on that. Yeah that's handy, yeah, good,
Speaker 1: double duty to.
Speaker 4: Sit on the end of a massage bad. Yes, just
Speaker 4: poke it through there.
Speaker 1: So when you're gonna go, you're gonna make a sort
Speaker 1: of a little lefty here, but you're not gonna just
Speaker 1: go up and then you're gonna go right at this light.
Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4: Do you have to do any traveling? What are you
Speaker 4: preparing for?
Speaker 1: I'm going to just go day after tomorrow, but I'm
Speaker 1: only there for a few hours. I'm going to do
Speaker 1: s Francisco on my show, then in Portland, and then
Speaker 1: Seattle for the weekend.
Speaker 5: So it's very.
Speaker 4: Fast, just three days in a row.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just Friday, the Pacifying Arts, which nice. It
Speaker 1: just reminds me of the Exploratory, which is not even
Speaker 1: there anymore. You would touch a cold thing and think
Speaker 1: it was wet. My science Science museum that was interactive.
Speaker 4: Like Wolf kind of Oh that's in uh uh not.
Speaker 4: I always want to say Al Paso, but it's in
Speaker 4: New Mexico and it is called Santa Fe. Yeah, has this.
Speaker 4: It's called me Wolf and it's installations like it's an
Speaker 4: art museum, but it's interactive and you crawl. You follow
Speaker 4: a storyline and you end up crawling through like go
Speaker 4: into a dryer and then all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 4: in your grandparents kitchen and then you get in the
Speaker 4: left lane here and it's kind of like you figure
Speaker 4: out a puzzle that it's it's all art installations and.
Speaker 5: It's and then turn left at this. Okay, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: the Exploratorium is in San Francisco, and it was more
Speaker 5: like you could pull a bow back and forth and
Speaker 5: play a violin. They'd like had this kind of thing
Speaker 5: and it was just basically where you went for field trips. Yeah,
Speaker 5: when you didn't live in San Francisco. But did you
Speaker 5: also do it when you did live in Scrancis. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great and it was like it was
Speaker 1: like for kids, but it was like a science museum,
Speaker 1: but it was like very hands on, interactive, early interactive.
Speaker 1: It was super exciting.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I did Me on Wolf, it was all kids
Speaker 4: and me just giggling and running with a group of kids.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so fun. I was if we had
Speaker 4: that growing up, I would have blossomed. They knew a
Speaker 4: better person.
Speaker 5: Well, it's never too late.
Speaker 4: It isn't. That's what we've we're all twenty eight.
Speaker 5: Margaret, thank you so much for being our premiere guest.
Speaker 5: I loved it. Thank you, Margaret, thank you, thank you
Speaker 5: very long.
Speaker 1: Thank you, good to see you, to see you too.
Speaker 5: I love you too. I miss you.
Speaker 1: I miss you. Let's do largo. Okay, something that'd be great.
Speaker 4: I'm going to remind Karen that she said she would
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, great, Please have great shows. Oh there's
Speaker 5: a button, so future have great shows. Thank you, have
Speaker 5: a great time.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks again for the other night.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for kickbok bye.
Speaker 5: Oh she's the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hello, sir?
Speaker 5: Should we wrap it up? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just well, I'm so sorry. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I was just in a car and we were hanging out.
Speaker 4: You've been listening to Do You Need a Run?
Speaker 5: That's actually what we were doing. That's the beauty of
Speaker 5: this podcast.
Speaker 4: Funny, I forgot were podcast. Yea, we're just driving in
Speaker 4: a car while recording.
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