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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number two

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Speaker 1: hundred in eighty one, and today in the show, I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Olympic gold medal winning skier David Wise to

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Speaker 1: discuss how the mental toughness, habits and training that helped

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Speaker 1: him succeed as a professional skier also translates to hunting.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by on X, and today we've got David

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Speaker 1: Wise joining me here shortly, and I want to have

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Speaker 1: David on the show to help us continue this conversation

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Speaker 1: we started last week in the last episode you might

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Speaker 1: remember we began having this discussion around the power of

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Speaker 1: habits and other processes in your life to help you

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Speaker 1: become a more effective hunter. You know. Throughout that conversation

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Speaker 1: me and Dan had we talked about a number of

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Speaker 1: different ideas and systems that I've been learning about through

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Speaker 1: various books and interviews that I've listened to in my

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Speaker 1: pursuit of I guess studying high achievers I'm just fascinated

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Speaker 1: by people who have reached the highest levels of excellence

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Speaker 1: in their various fields. I'm always curious about how the

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Speaker 1: things you can learn from those people, how those habits,

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Speaker 1: how those behaviors and systems, how they might all be

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Speaker 1: applicable to hunting. You know, can we learn from, you know,

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Speaker 1: an elite businessman or an elite athlete and take something

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Speaker 1: from from their lessons learned and from their life and

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Speaker 1: apply it to what we do when we're trying to be,

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Speaker 1: So that is this this thing that's been kind of

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Speaker 1: percolating in my mind. And we began to explore that

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Speaker 1: last week with some examples from my own life and

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Speaker 1: dance too. But today I wanted to take things to

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Speaker 1: the next level and really test that theory by actually

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Speaker 1: talking to and learning from an elite performer in some

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Speaker 1: other world and see if there's something that translates to

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Speaker 1: that David Wise would be the perfect guy to help

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Speaker 1: us do this, because not only is he an elite athlete,

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Speaker 1: only is he doing these incredible things with his skis,

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Speaker 1: but he is also a hunter, so he knows exactly

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Speaker 1: how some of these things might cross over to these

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Speaker 1: two parts of his life. So here in a minute,

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Speaker 1: we're going to discuss with him the habits and the

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Speaker 1: we're gonna explore how he handles high pressure situations, how

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Speaker 1: he deals with failure, how he overcomes obstacles, how you know,

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Speaker 1: how we can get better at training towards the goal,

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Speaker 1: and all sorts of things like that that I think

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Speaker 1: All right with me? Now on the line is David Wise.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to show. David Hey, thanks for having man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time. I know, uh,

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Speaker 1: to to dive into a whole slew of different things because,

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Speaker 1: there's this really interesting crossover I think, UM, that we

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Speaker 1: having a family and having these two super time consuming

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00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: passions is very challenging. UM. But it all comes down

431
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: to the balance thing for me where um, I feel

432
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: like the bow hunting balance is the skiing for me,

433
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: and the family balances both both passions. Where UM, if

434
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm honest with myself and I have that kind of

435
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: Jesus moment, I have to remind myself that my family

436
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: is most important. If I put my if I ranked

437
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: my family first, um, then it really takes the pressure

438
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: off of all these other things that I do. It

439
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: takes a pressure off of needing to perform while and skiing.

440
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: It takes a pressure off of needing to uh bring

441
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: home the biggest buck of my life every time I

442
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: go out it. Um it creates a balance. So as

443
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: long as um, my wife and I are communicating well

444
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: and she's aware of what's coming down the pipeline, and

445
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: I take enough time uh out of those other passions

446
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 1: that I have to make her feel allowed to make

447
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: sure that the kids get enough of my time and attention,

448
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: then it's actually a great combination. I mean, the upside

449
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: of being a professional skier is that I have plenty

450
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: of freedom in the summer my schedule even though I'm

451
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: still training always and I still have that militant approach

452
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: to improving skiing my skiing ability in the off season

453
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: as much as the on season. UM, I have a

454
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: little bit more freedom, Like I can strain it on

455
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,959
Speaker 1: the road, I can we can go for family trips,

456
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: we can go for you random adventures. Where do you

457
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: want to go to day? Let's take an eight hour

458
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: drive to a hot spring and camp out as a

459
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: family and really spend quality time together. Because I am

460
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: gone all winter long. Uh, So I have to balance

461
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: that time away from them with time with them. Um.

462
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: And the same thing applies to hunting. It's not like I,

463
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I honestly don't hunt nearly as much as I would

464
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: like to, but I certainly make enough time to do

465
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: it every year because it's good for my soul and

466
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: it's good for our it's good for our bellies. Um.

467
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: For me, nutrition is a huge part of hunting and

468
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: one of the one of the many reasons besides how

469
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: much I love it that I got into bow hunting

470
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: was just that I had way more opportunity when it

471
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: came to, uh, drawing tags and being able to hunt

472
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: more locations and things like that. So my goal is

473
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: to eat no red meat that you are you know,

474
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: limited ready, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say

475
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: no to a stake at a restaurant or a burger

476
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: or whatever when I'm traveling. But my goal, my my

477
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: season goal is always to provide for the professional athlete

478
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: grind almost exclusively with game meat. That's awesome. That's uh

479
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: something very I mean a hundred percent. Can relate to

480
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: several of things you talked about there. For with the

481
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: different hobbies, Like you talked about how your wife signed

482
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: up for the whole skiing thing, but maybe not the

483
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: hunting deal. Same with my wife, and that she knew

484
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with hunting, and she knew I liked

485
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: to fish and be outdoors and everything. But then when

486
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: I got really heavy into fly fishing, and then when

487
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: I recently said, hey, I really think I want to

488
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: learn how to climb, she was like, you know what,

489
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: we should put a time out on that for now

490
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: with your other twelve different obsessions and maybe maybe take

491
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: a little time out of that. So I struggle with

492
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: the same with the same things. But I noticed that

493
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: something you've done recently. I saw you took your wife

494
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: on her first deer hunt. I watched your your video

495
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: over there and why is Off the Grid series there

496
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: on your YouTube channel, and I thought that was very

497
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: cool to see how you were getting your family involved

498
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: in one of these passions of yours. And it's definitely

499
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: something I'm trying to do too. Do you foresee that,

500
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, continuing growing, developing is as part of that

501
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: balancing act. Yeah, thanks for tacking that up. That I was.

502
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: I was originally heading there and then I went down

503
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: a rabbit trail. Um. Yeah, So in terms of the

504
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: balancing the family thing, my kids, Uh, you know, some

505
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: of my favorite memories, my absolute favorite memories. My dad

506
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: was super supportive in my ski career, my whole life.

507
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: But if I'm honest with myself, my favorite memories with

508
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: him are hunting or fishing, And ironically, I'm not even

509
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: that in fishing anymore because we're you just mentioned the

510
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: lack of time thing. Um, I am a professional skier

511
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: and I'm constantly training, so I really only have time

512
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: to either be really into fly fishing or really into

513
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: bow hunting. And I choose bow hunting because it's way

514
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: more exciting. Um. I do love fly fishing, and any

515
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: time I get a chance to go out, I'll go out.

516
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: But um, all of my favorite memories as a kid

517
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: come down to those times I spend in the outdoors

518
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: with my dad. So that's absolutely where I want my

519
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: family to go. That's our trajectory, and that was why

520
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: I was. I was motivated to get my wife out there,

521
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: and um, for me, it wasn't a pressure thing. I

522
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to pressure her to be on her I

523
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: didn't even really want to pressure her to enjoy it,

524
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: but I just wanted her to understand it, and so

525
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned that to her. I've been mentioning it to

526
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: her casually since we um started dating. I mean, when

527
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: we first started dating, she was a vegetarian, and I said, okay,

528
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: I respect that I have some moral I have some

529
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: moral uh stances about the food we too. What if

530
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: I cooked you some game meat that I harvested ethically

531
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: and and took very good care of And she was like, okay,

532
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: we would be willing to try that. So that's how

533
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: we started. That was our platform of our first of

534
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: our relationship, right at the start, and ever since that

535
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: moment when I fed her games you know, red fedter

536
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: some deer burgers and she enjoyed them. Um, I kind

537
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: of put the bugget ringer. I was like, you know,

538
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: if you just go and get this under safety done,

539
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: then I can put you in for a tag and

540
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: we can go we can go out together. It's something

541
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: we could do together. And I think, Um, when my

542
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: time started getting more and more limited and I and

543
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: simultaneously I started hunting a little bit more, she realized,

544
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: this is actually a good idea because he can't say

545
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: no to it. He can't like he has to spend

546
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: time with me if I give my hunting license. So

547
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: she did it all on her own. So one day

548
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: I came home and she surprised me with her She

549
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: showed me, there, look at my hunting license. I got this. So, UM,

550
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: in Nevada, drawing tags with her rifle is kind of tricky.

551
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: So she actually got her hunting license. And then, UM,

552
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: it took her a couple of years to draw a

553
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: tag in an area that I could hunt, during the

554
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: time of year that I could hunt. So it was

555
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: actually a good thing because then she developed this anticipation,

556
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: this excitement about okay, did I draw to tag this here? Oh?

557
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: She finally drew one, and then you know, it was

558
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: like there was so much preparation that went into it. It

559
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: It was like a two or three year process that

560
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: when we got out there. UM, I think she was

561
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: more excited to hunt than she would have been had

562
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: it been easy, had you know, she just drew got

563
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: her hunting license and we went out and hunted. Um,

564
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I think that the experience would have been slightly different.

565
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: And and even even with the way that the hunt win, UM,

566
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: the first day, we didn't see a single deer, and

567
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: that was perfect. I was I was honestly excited. I

568
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: was like, this is great, this is perfect. It's not

569
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: like I did it on purpose, because, like I said,

570
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't have the ability to be like, oh, I'm

571
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: just gonna take you over here so we don't see

572
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: any deer, Like if I'm out there to hunt, I'm

573
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna go give up my all and try to find

574
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: something to shoot. Um. But we literally didn't see a

575
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: single deer. And so by the second day she was aunty.

576
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: She was like, Okay, where are we going? Where? What

577
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: are we Like, are we gonna have more opportunities today

578
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: than we had yesterday? Because yetually it was kind of

579
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: a duck and so uh, the moment came when we

580
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: had we were in range of something, and um, I

581
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: was setting up the camera and I went to go,

582
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, check on her. I thought, you know, I'd

583
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 1: have to talk her through it. The deer was betted,

584
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: so we had all the time in the world. And UM,

585
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: I look over and I'm like walking down to her

586
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: to help talk her through it, and she's already got

587
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: safety ops, She's ready to go. I was like, Okay,

588
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: this is this is this is for real. So um,

589
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: that experience for her, I mean then she shot the

590
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: deer and cried, and I was like, oh no, I

591
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: might traumatized her forever, Like that's the last thing I

592
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: want to do. I want. I wanted this to be

593
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: a good, positive experience, and I was really adamant about

594
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: not putting fresh around her throughout the process. I was never, um,

595
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: I never. I pretty much told her right from the start,

596
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, we're going out for a date like

597
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: this is a four day backpacking camping experience. We're just

598
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen to have a rifle along with us, and

599
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: if we get a chance to shoot a deer and

600
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: you want to great, if we get a chance to

601
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: shoot a deer and you don't want to totally find

602
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: by me too. Um. But then on once she shot

603
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: one and cried, I was like, oh no, Like, is

604
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: that the last year she's ever gonna shoot? So I waited,

605
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: I waited like an hour to ask her if she

606
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: want it to go again, and her her answer was

607
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: instantaneous yes. And so that was a really I mean,

608
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: that was a really cool that that was probably a

609
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: life changing experience for me, as I was like, took

610
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: somebody who didn't understand hunting, didn't believe in hunting, didn't

611
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: know about hunting, and UM did it the right way.

612
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Taught her how to do her the right way, and

613
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: she got to eat the tender alliance of a deer

614
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: she shot that night and now you know, cooked it

615
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: over the campfire. It was amazing. And that's the experience

616
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: that I want to have with my kids. Uh. Sorry

617
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: for going down another rabbit trail there, but that's what

618
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to with my kids because I remember

619
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: my first year with my dad and we really didn't

620
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: know what we were doing. We was out there kind

621
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: of bumbling around and we got lucky and we got one.

622
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: But it was such a cool experience. So I look

623
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: forward to that with my kids. And both of my

624
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: kids are actually pretty fired up about that too. We're

625
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: fortunate to live outside the city and we have deer

626
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: and bears uh sort of roaming through the neighborhood here

627
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: and there, so um, they're there there. Experiences with wildlife

628
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: are maybe a little bit more intimate than your typical

629
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: city kids, so it's pretty fun. That's that's incredible. That's

630
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: that's awesome to hear your wife has such a good experience.

631
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to be able to do something like

632
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: that with my son. UM looking forward to that very

633
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: very much. That point, that final end result when you

634
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: have to pull the trigger, that is kind of the

635
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: top of the mountain that each one of us has

636
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: to climb up all season, right, each one of us

637
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: that hunts. You have this goal of filling some tag,

638
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: there's some animal you're after, You're you're trying to put

639
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: meat in the freezer, and there's a whole lot of

640
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: stuff that leads up to that. And for every different

641
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: person there's a different level of of of time and

642
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: energy that goes into it. Some people just grab the

643
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: gun of the bow on Friday and head out and

644
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: they hunt for the weekend and that's their season. Um.

645
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: But then there's other people. UM, I think you're probably

646
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: in this category, and I certainly am where I'm thinking

647
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: about this almost every day of the year. I'm doing

648
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: things leading up to the season, during the season to

649
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: try to make sure I'm as prepared as I possibly

650
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: can be, to make sure that everything is in order

651
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know achieving that goal is

652
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: is going to happen, or at least that I did

653
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: every single possibly thing I could to achieve that goal um,

654
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: And when you look at a lot of folks out

655
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: there who who are really goal oriented or these high achievers,

656
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: one of the things that seems to be pretty consistent.

657
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's it's all the time, but something

658
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I hear about a lot is the importance of a

659
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: morning routine. A lot of folks within various fields talk

660
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: about the power of having like a good start to

661
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: your day, and that's something I've been trying to to

662
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: build into my life, and I've I've kind of wondered, like,

663
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: is there something there that could help hunters too. Maybe

664
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: it's just you know, a good start to the day

665
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: all throughout your year is going to be helpful and

666
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: just like getting all these different things, or maybe that's

667
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: even applicable actually during the season. I'm not sure. I'm

668
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: just starting to kind of think about this, but I'm

669
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: just kind of curious, do you have any kind of

670
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: morning routine or any kind of way that kick starts

671
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: you to make sure you're as effective as possible? Um,

672
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: whether that be off season, um, in the season of hunting,

673
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: or maybe within your skiing world. I don't know, Like,

674
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: when I say this, where's your mind go? Yeah? I

675
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: think um. One of the parallels for me between UH

676
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: skiing and hunting has always been that UM. For me

677
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: on the skiing side, it's getting ready to drop into

678
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: the half by at any big at any high level

679
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: of competition. Maybe it's X Games, maybe it's World Championships,

680
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: maybe it's the Olympics. It's always the same. It's like

681
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm standing at the top, the half is empty, somebody

682
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: calls up on the radio, judges are ready, and the

683
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: and the starter says, go ahead, let her buck and UM,

684
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of the preparation of a year,

685
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: or if you're talking Olympics, four years of preparation comes

686
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: down to one moment. And I love to talk about

687
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: the fact that half I've run last thirty five seconds,

688
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: So four years of preparation will come down to thirty

689
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: five seconds, and how well are you gonna execute in

690
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: those thirty five seconds? And in bow hunting it really

691
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: comes down to about five to ten seconds. From I mean,

692
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: obviously there's there's the there's the physical preparation, there's the

693
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: hunting preparation, there's the shooting preparation. If you're talking about

694
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: bow hunting, you know you gotta you gotta make sure

695
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: your pins are dialed. You gotta make sure that your

696
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: broadheads are flying as straight and as and as true

697
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: as they possibly can. You gotta know that the arrow

698
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: is gonna hit behind the pin that you're using. You

699
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: gotta make You gotta know that your pins are are

700
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: You gotta know which pin is gonna hit at what

701
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: at which range, etcetera, etcetera. Then you gotta do There's like,

702
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: so there's the long term preparation. There's the habitual drawback

703
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: anchor settle your feet, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull until

704
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: it goes off. There's that kind of preparation. Um. And

705
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: then there's the fitness aspect being fit enough to be

706
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: able to get out there. Uh. For me, in terms

707
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: of Western hunting, a lot of a lot of success

708
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: is based on how far in you can get or

709
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: how or how fast you can get there. Most of

710
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: the time for me, it's like, oh, there's one and

711
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: I have half an hour to get there? Can I

712
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: make it two miles and a half hour? And um,

713
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: So the fitness plays it, you'd aspect into it. And

714
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: then there's the more acute stuff like can you stay cool, calm, collected,

715
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: and if the wind switches while you're on your way in,

716
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: can you make the right decision and and and take

717
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of extra time or possibly even move

718
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: faster or whatever it is. And so then you get

719
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: in range of this critter and then it all comes

720
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: down to that five seconds of draw the bow, back

721
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: anchor settle, level the bow, and pull till it goes off.

722
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's so that there's so much similarities

723
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: for me in that way. I'm constantly training, I'm constantly

724
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: improving my skills. Um, But it doesn't matter if I

725
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: landed ten runs out of ten in practice, in the

726
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: same way that it doesn't matter if you hit the

727
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: dot ten times out of ten shooting at the target

728
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: in camp before you went went out and blast the hillsides. Uh,

729
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: comes down to that one arrow that you get to

730
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: release when you're in range. And um, that's so fascinated me.

731
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: I love that. I love the pressure. That's part of

732
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: what has drawn me to skiing over time. It's like

733
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of different aspects of skiing that

734
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: I could could have pursued, but half five competition appealed

735
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: to me the most because of that pressure. In the

736
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: same way that bow hunting appeels to me the most

737
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: because of that pressure. I love. I love developing habits

738
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: that do encourage you to be successful in that moment.

739
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: So um, in terms of habits, Uh, you brought up

740
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: a fascinating concept to about a morning ritual, and um,

741
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: I would say that that's actually twofold and one of

742
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: the things that gets ignored potentially is actually the evening ritual.

743
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: So um, I've done some studies with different companies that

744
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: I work with, and um with some of my trainers

745
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: with the ski team and my trainer here at home,

746
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: and we found out that, UM, well, I mean, I

747
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: think this is kind of a popular topic in in

748
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: athletics right now. Quality of sleep is way more important

749
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: than quantity of sleep. And um, so I've done some

750
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I wore an e KG for a week and tried

751
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: some different habits and saw which ones. You know, it's

752
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: it's not about necessarily that you're that you're just asleep.

753
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: It's about the fact that you're asleep and your heart

754
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: is um is settled and it's steady. When your heart

755
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: rate is extremely uh rhythmic and slow and steady, that's

756
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: when you're getting the most rest. That's when you're getting

757
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the most recovery. UM. So I have both a morning

758
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: routine and an evening routine, and that for me is

759
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: is actually the greatest basically creates the greatest quality of sleep.

760
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: And that's something that I started to apply to my

761
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: unting last year because, like I said, we were talking

762
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: about earlier in the podcast, where you get out in

763
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: the field and you've been waiting all year and you're

764
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: so excited to hunt again and you kind of get

765
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: off your rhythm and all of a sudden you're making

766
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: bad decisions. You're like, why am I mentally off today? Well,

767
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I've been sleeping at such and such equality for the

768
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: last six months, and all of a sudden, I'm out here,

769
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping poorly, I'm waking up at the weird times

770
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: as I want to get out there in glass, and

771
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: of course I'm mentally off my game. So I started

772
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: actually applying these things that I had that I had

773
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: learned and put in practice for skiing for hunting as well.

774
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: And so for me, the evening routine is just something

775
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: that settles my heart rightdown, um. Because if you spend

776
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: your time right before you fall asleep, which a lot

777
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: of us do, and I have a tendency to fall

778
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: back into it as well, reading emails on your phone

779
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: or flipping through Instagram on your phone or staring at

780
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: a screen. Um, that's the last thing that your consciousness

781
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: reflects on, right, but for you fall asleep and it

782
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: inevitably plays into the quality of sleep. So before I

783
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: go to bed, I try to whether it's just a

784
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: ten minute stretching routine or maybe it's a little jog

785
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: around the block. I'm not trying to spike my heart rate,

786
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not going for a sprint or going for

787
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: a long run, but just something active that gets my

788
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: heart rate slightly elevated. And then I'll read a book

789
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: or something calming before I go to bed. That drastically

790
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: increased my quality of sleep. UM, you talked about family

791
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: and the balance of family. For me, one of the

792
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: things we discovered I did this, UM, I did this

793
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: e KG study. I was talking about one of the

794
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: things they discovered. The scientists who looked at the data

795
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: were like, Man, every time you skiped your family before

796
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: you went to bed or FaceTime or whatever, you slept

797
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: way better. So maybe you should introduce that into your routine. UM,

798
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: so you know, and it calls it all comes down

799
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: to each individual person. I'm not saying that there is

800
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: a formula first success in that way, but there is

801
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: certainly each person has their own formula, and mine happens

802
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: to be, um, settling myself down drastically before I go

803
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: to bed, and then like you said, yeah, waking up

804
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: and doing um, not necessarily exactly the same things, but

805
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: having certain benchmark things that start your day out in

806
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: the same way, so that you you feel like, no

807
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: matter where you are, you have a rhythm. Uh. As humans,

808
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: part of the reason we like dance and we like

809
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: music so much is because we're rhythmic beings. And so

810
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: if you can develop that rhythm from the start of

811
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: your day, your day, it will go better. And so um, yeah,

812
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: whatever whatever happens to be, if you have to even

813
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: if you have to adjust your schedule at home so

814
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: that your schedule and when you're in the field can

815
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: match it a little bit better, maybe that's gonna be

816
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: a good thing for you in the long run. Because Yeah,

817
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things on a long hunt is

818
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: is finding that rhythm again, because it is it is

819
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: way different for me. Most of the hunting I do

820
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: is in late August early September, and so first light

821
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: in August is that like five thirty in the morning.

822
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not. I mean, I'm kind of a

823
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: morning person, but I don't love getting up at four

824
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Like six thirty spine, but four

825
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: thirty man, that's his struggle. So of course it's gonna

826
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: throw you off the rhythms. So if you can find

827
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: certain things, uh, for me, it's coffee. It's like I

828
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: always have a hot cup of coffee or sometimes sometimes

829
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: if I feel like I've been drinking too much caffeine

830
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: lady lately, I'll do tea, just something hot to start with.

831
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: UM and not allowing myself to just stare at my

832
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: phone first thing in the morning is really important. So

833
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: whether I'm going to read read the Good Word for

834
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: the to start my morning or UM, or just take

835
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: some time to be solid, to be silent and and

836
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: have some solitude before the day. It's important for me

837
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: not to look at my computer screen or my phone

838
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: the first thing in the morning, because like I said,

839
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: that just sends me up, and the same thing before

840
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: where I go to bed. Yeah, the nights that I

841
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: stare at my phone right before I fall asleep. I

842
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: sleep poorly. The nights that I, uh take time to

843
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: read a book or listen to a podcast or something

844
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: like that, I do much better. Yeah, it's a really

845
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: interesting point something that I've struggled with two and um

846
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: it makes me think of when we talked about the

847
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: whole sleeping thing. Definitely thinks like in the white tail world.

848
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: For me, it's when you have like the heat of

849
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: the white tail rut and you're hunting maybe seven or

850
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: fourteen days straight all day every day. You're waking up

851
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: at the you know, well before the break of dawn,

852
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: and you're out there in the woods in a tree

853
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: all the way until after dark, and just it really

854
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: it's one of those rhythm things. It really throws you

855
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: off your rhythm from regular life and it's just so exhausting.

856
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: Or if you're in the Western world, you know, your

857
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: big seven to ten day trip out in the mountains

858
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: like very physically and mentally grueling. So sleep so great

859
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: point in the quality of sleep. That's something that I

860
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: that I'm not thinking about as much. I've tried to

861
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: get better at quantity and inconsistency. I've heard that having

862
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: consistent times can be helpful. Um, but you brought up coffee,

863
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: and I'm curious. This is something I've been working on

864
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: two specifically, when I go on these trips during the rut,

865
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: when you're doing like for me this like two weeks

866
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: or three week just marathon um during November. For us

867
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: here in the White Tail Woods of the Midwest. For

868
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: many years, I was horrible when it came to how

869
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: I ate during those days because it was like, Wow,

870
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not thinking, I don't have time to

871
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: really you know, think through healthy meal. So I would

872
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: just buy all sorts of snacks and junk food and

873
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I would grab something more and throw in the backpack,

874
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: and my my meals for the day would be, you know,

875
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: a Snickers, a bag of chips, uh ho ho, peanut butter,

876
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: jelly sandwich, can of pepsi, and like all sorts of

877
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It was just like binge eating junk

878
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: food for twelve hours during the day, sitting in tree

879
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: standar or something. And the last couple of years I've

880
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: noticed that's not that's not helping me. It's not helping

881
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: me keep you know, high energy throughout the day. Staying

882
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: folk us throughout the day. Um, in a whole lot

883
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: of ways, I'm imagining that's that's probably not a good thing.

884
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: So I've I've started to shift. Um, whether it be

885
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: that kind of situation or Western trip. I gotta believe

886
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: that what you're eating and drinking plays a factor and

887
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: how effective you can be as a hunter. Um. I'm

888
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: guessing that's something you think about. Two. Do you have

889
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: any thoughts on that. I'm sure it's a big part

890
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: of your the other side of your life in the skiing,

891
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing where's your head on all those things? Yeah, absolutely,

892
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: It's it's funny like we I think we all, especially

893
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: people who are really into hunting, uh, inevitably get really

894
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: into nutrition. Are not really into it, but we but

895
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: we have. We take an interest in nutrition. There's a

896
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: reason that we like to eat game meat is because

897
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: it's better for us. And then all of a sudden

898
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: we suspend that when we go out in the field,

899
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: as if it doesn't even matter and where eating jump

900
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: with it. I've been guilty of the same thing. I'm like,

901
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what to take. Here's swelve Snickers ball

902
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: and you know, like I'll just snack on those throughout

903
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: the day, and then I expect the same quality of

904
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: performance out of myself as if I had been eating

905
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: the same you know, high quality complex carbohydrates, HI high

906
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: protein diet that I normally am used to, and then

907
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm surprised when I when I'm under performing, and um

908
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: for me at the discovery came, I mentioned my wife

909
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: is super supportive. She's very supportive of my skiing career,

910
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: which she's actually uh sort of drink accoolate with me,

911
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: and she's super supportive of both my love of bow

912
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: hunting and my level of archery in general. And it

913
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: was she was the first one who pointed out to

914
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: me that um, I was underperforming on the archery side,

915
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: because I had been doing a couple of shoots archery

916
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: tournaments and she's like, well, what are you eating during

917
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: the day, And I was like, oh man, it's an

918
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: archery shoot. You know. We we McDonald's breakfast on the

919
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: way there, because you've gotta be at the gotta be

920
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: at the range at like, you know, six thirty in

921
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: the morning, that we don't have time to cook a

922
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: nice meal for ourselves. And then she's like, Okay, what

923
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: do you eat during the day. Oh, well, you know,

924
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: they got like a snack jack midway through on on

925
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: shot number eighteen or shot number twelve where you can

926
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: buy a burger. And she's like, that is not the

927
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: quality of food that you're used to eating, so of

928
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: course you're underperforming, and she just kind of like opened

929
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: my eyes and I was like, wow, I don't know

930
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: how I didn't recognize that myself. So then I started

931
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: making preparing myself healthy snacks throughout the day, whether it

932
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: was avocado in a zip block bag with lime juice

933
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: squirted in there so that the avocado didn't didn't spoil

934
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: and it also had that that little tang of lime.

935
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm eating that. And then I had smoked salmon in

936
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: my in my archery backpack, and uh, you know, just

937
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: some higher quality food. And all of a sudden, my

938
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: performance was what I expected it to be. I wasn't

939
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: suddenly a professional archer. I wasn't shooting better than my practice,

940
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: but I was at least shooting as good as my practice.

941
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: And so that I learned that on the target archery

942
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: side and applied it last year to the hunting side

943
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: because I realized, wow, I do I hunting food. Even

944
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: even those back country meals, the rehydrated stuff is usually

945
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: not the best quality. You know, it's quantity, and we

946
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: all think that we need this quantity, but the reality

947
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: is it's it's just like sleep, Quantity doesn't really matter

948
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: if the quality is terrible. So even though you're fueling

949
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: the machine, you're not feeling the machine in the right

950
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: way if you're eating this jump. So um. Yeah, it

951
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: does take a lot more prep on the preparation side,

952
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: but that's one of the things that you can be doing,

953
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: uh during the off season and being getting ready for

954
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: There's there's all kinds of um. As I've gotten more

955
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: and more into it, there's all kinds of information out

956
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: there for how to make your own back country meals

957
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: that are awesome, or how to prepare for um, how

958
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: to prepare for the grind outside outside of of of

959
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: just you know, running to the supermarket right before your trip.

960
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: And one of the things this is just that this

961
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: is a random life hack because I know guys that

962
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: utee your show like to like to listen not lighthecks. Um.

963
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: I got really into cold brew coffee, uh, just because um,

964
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: I felt like the quality was better for what it

965
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: just tastes the best to me if I take the

966
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: French press, I have just a normal French press in

967
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: my house and put the coffee grounds in the night

968
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: before and leave it in the refrigerator overnight with water

969
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: and let it brew overnight and then press it in

970
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: the morning. To me, that's the best cup of coffee

971
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I can drink. So I looked into, Okay, how can

972
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: I have this out in the field, because this is

973
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: obviously the best. I'm not about to bring a French

974
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: press out into the field and do cold press coffee

975
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: cold brew coffee overnight, but you can dehydrate. You can

976
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: cold brew and dehydrate coffee down to like a shot size.

977
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: So essentially you either um put it in the fridge

978
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: and let it let it evaporate off itself, or leave

979
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: it out in a back grde off your yourself itself,

980
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: or you just boil it down to just the sort

981
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: of the dregs of the coffee and you put that

982
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: in shop form. You can just add it to a

983
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: couple of water and there you got. You got your

984
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: cold brew coffee first thing in the morning. So that's

985
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: what I did when I was sent last year. That's

986
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: what I like it so speaking of of life hacks

987
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: and things like that, and you kind of talked about

988
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: a couple UM activities that I think would fall within this.

989
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: You mentioned, you know, the need to be staying fit

990
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: leading up to hunting, or you mentioned shooting your bow

991
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: leading up to the hunting season. Um. A lot of

992
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: these things can become a part of your life if

993
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: you have a thoughtful approach to him and and for

994
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people, that thoughtful approach hopefully usually leads

995
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: to habits. This is something that seems to be pretty

996
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: darn't consistent across a lot of different fields. High achievers

997
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: usually have really good habits around important things in their life.

998
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: What are those good habits for you? Um? Or how

999
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: or how I guess, how does this work for you

1000
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: within your life of of skiing and or hunting um,

1001
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: whether it be creating good habits or breaking bad ones? Yeah. UM.

1002
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: I stumbled upon this concept luckily for me early on

1003
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: in my career, where rather than just training what was

1004
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: easy or what was comfortable for me, UM, I started

1005
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: training what I call training the fringe, and that means

1006
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: preparing for UM, preparing for the worst case scenario or

1007
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: preparing for the hardest thing that you're going to do,

1008
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: rather than just preparing for the easiest thing that you're

1009
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. I think people have a tendency, especially when

1010
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: it comes to hunting preparation, to um go out set

1011
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: of targeting up flat at thirty to forty yards and

1012
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: if they can shoot the dot uh five times in

1013
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: a row, they feel good about it, like there there

1014
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: it is, I'm ready. But um, anybody who has ever

1015
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: been out in the field knows that moment when you

1016
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: have a deer in range never feels that in You're

1017
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: never nearly as calm as you were when you were

1018
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: shooting at that dot. So um, there's a there. It's

1019
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: a good practice to practice things in as hard of

1020
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: a way as possible because and I'm not saying you should,

1021
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: um practice things that are like super challenging and then

1022
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: try them in the field. But if you practice, if

1023
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: you practice the ultimate extreme of what you're capable of,

1024
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: then when you have something that's less than that, it's

1025
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna seem easy. So um. For if we're talking about

1026
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: life hacks, one of one of the things I do

1027
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: before both season, UM, Western hunting is a little longer

1028
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: range than white tail hunting, I think in some ways

1029
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: because we're open country spot in stock, so, um, I

1030
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: would like to be I like to be effective where

1031
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm willing and comfortable taking a shot out to sixty

1032
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: sixty five yards at a deer. So if I'm said

1033
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: telling myself, okay, I want to be effective, I want

1034
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: to be able to hit a you know, I want

1035
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: to be able to hit an orange ten times out

1036
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: of ten at sixty five yards even when my heart

1037
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: raise up. Then I have to practice at an even

1038
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: greater range with an elevated heart rate. So I'll usually

1039
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: practice at a hundred maybe a hundred and ten yards,

1040
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: and I'll do a wind sprint first. So what I

1041
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: do is I take two arrows, and I shoot both arrows,

1042
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: and then I sprint to the target and sprint back,

1043
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: so that's two yard win sprint, and then I throw

1044
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: the arrow on almost as soon as I get back,

1045
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: so that the first shot is super super elevated heart rate,

1046
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: and then the second shot is sort of a mid

1047
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: to high heart rate. And if I can get consistent

1048
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: putting both of those arrows in the effective zone, uh

1049
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: and putting them in similar spots, then I know, you know,

1050
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: if I get a shot at sixty sixty five yards,

1051
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I can handle it, and you know, then I'll then

1052
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: I'll practice off my knees. Or if you're a white

1053
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: tail hunter, you should practice that extreme angles. You should

1054
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: practice shooting basically directly under your feet, because what happens

1055
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: if the deer is literally right below you. You know,

1056
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: practice the extremes because it's gonna make you just that

1057
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: much more effective, uh, conversion rate, like you're I think

1058
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: for bow hunting, the most important thing is your conversion rate.

1059
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: The reality is, if you spend enough time in the field,

1060
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna get an opportunity or two or five. But

1061
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: how often you convert that opportunity to a harvest really

1062
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: comes down to your preparation. So when I'm preparing for skiing,

1063
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm always training. When I'm in the gym, I'm training

1064
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: essentially more strength and I'll actually need physically, like I

1065
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: want to be stronger than I need to be. I

1066
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: want to be more agile than I need to be

1067
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: just to pull off my sport. And um, there's sort

1068
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: of this attitude and skiing that I was the anomaly

1069
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: for a long time, but now people are starting to

1070
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: embrace the training aspect, because most people would say free

1071
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: skiing is kind of a it's an action sport, it's

1072
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a were the rebels of the

1073
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: of the athletic world, and so they say, oh, you

1074
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: don't need to go to the gym to ski, you

1075
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: just need to ski a lot. But the reality for

1076
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: me when I just skied a lot was that my

1077
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: muscles were only ever being trained to meet what was

1078
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: required of them. So they only were ever being trained

1079
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: to meet how much power I needed for a certain

1080
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: takeoff on a certain trick, but they were never being

1081
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: trained to exceed that. Whereas when I went to the gym,

1082
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: I could train one specific muscle in one or or

1083
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: set of muscles in one way, and I could actually

1084
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: be stronger than I needed to be to pull off

1085
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: that specific trick. And it was a huge asset because

1086
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: the reality is no run is ever that I ever

1087
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: do in skiing is is perfect. It's just how quickly

1088
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: can I react to those imperfections and make them look seamless.

1089
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: In the same way that no stock is ever perfect.

1090
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: Something's always going to go wrong. That's what's that's what's

1091
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: so exciting about bow hunting, you know, the wind swirls

1092
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: and you gotta make the shot quicker than you thought

1093
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: you were going to, or you know, you at the

1094
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: last second you crunch leave the leaf that you didn't see,

1095
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: and the deer's all of said more alert. And those

1096
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: things are never going to go perfect. I mean occasionally

1097
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: they do and it's great and you're like, wow, I

1098
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how that went so perfect,

1099
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: but it did. But I would say most of the

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: time it doesn't. So you have to you have to

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: be prepared for those for the ways that things can

1102
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: go wrong with the way I think, things that can

1103
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: go different than you expected. So yeah, that's that's in

1104
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: terms of preparation and habits um I I habitually practice

1105
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: in harder ways than I would do than shots I

1106
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: would take in the field. I'm never gonna take a

1107
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: hundred ten yard shot in the field. I'm just not

1108
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a hundred yard shot in the field.

1109
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that I shouldn't practice at a

1110
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: hundred yards and be able to hit a candle, you know,

1111
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten or ten times out of ten.

1112
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: That's that's always a goal for me. Before bow hunting,

1113
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: season starts. Yeah, makes makes the real deal at fifty

1114
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: or sixties so much more just just almost easy second

1115
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: nature at that point because it's nothing compared to a

1116
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: hundred ten. So yeah, you're able to stay calm because

1117
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: you're like, well, that's just right there, I can I

1118
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: can do this. So what about this though? What about

1119
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: simply the act of doing the training at all? That

1120
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: even is a challenge for some people I know, and

1121
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: myself included. Sometimes when I I get out of the

1122
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: habit of shooting my bow as often as I should,

1123
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: and I'm so caught up in work, and it's so

1124
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: busy with work, work, work, working. As soon as I'm

1125
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: done with work, that I had to be helping around

1126
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: the house and getting dinner around and then I'm spending

1127
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: a couple of hours of my son before he goes

1128
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: to bed, and then it's nine o'clock and I'm tired,

1129
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: and I do one more thing and work, and then

1130
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: it's ten o'clock and I want to read, and that's

1131
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: your day's gone. Right. So I feel like a lot

1132
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: of people have, in their own little way, struggle to

1133
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: fit in these things that they know are important. Um,

1134
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: but sometimes they slip through the cracks. I'm guilty of this.

1135
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm constantly battling and trying to find ways to

1136
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: to take something that I know I should be doing

1137
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: and and get it into my routine so it doesn't

1138
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: fall through those cracks. Something like shooting your bow or

1139
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: or your gun, or physically fit whatever it might be. Like.

1140
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Take for shooting for example, Um, how do you or

1141
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: do you have a habit around shooting your boat or

1142
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: do you just when you have free time you shoot it?

1143
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: Or is it something that's every day or every week

1144
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: or some kind of routine that it's going to happen.

1145
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: How does that work for you? Yeah, I don't even

1146
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: know if you feel I don't even know if you

1147
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: should feel guilty about that, because life happens, man. And

1148
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: we talked earlier about how my first priority personally is

1149
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: my family and if if hunting ever comes between me

1150
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: and my quality uh and the quality of my fatherhood

1151
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: or the quality of being of my husband nous, I

1152
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: don't know if that's even a word, um, then then

1153
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: I need to put it on the sideline, um, because

1154
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I really do think that those things are the most important.

1155
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: The relationships we have in our life are the most

1156
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: important things that we're going to do. Of course we're

1157
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: passionate about our howies were passionate about um our livelihoods.

1158
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the relationships are

1159
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: most important. So it's really easy to get out of

1160
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: the rim. It's really easy to to let things go

1161
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: and not do them. Um. So habits do help in

1162
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: that in that way where um, maybe it's maybe it's

1163
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: getting up a little bit earlier for me. That's That's

1164
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: kind of what it comes down to, is the things

1165
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: that I prioritize. I'm like you as soon as I'm

1166
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: done training. So I mean a typical day of training

1167
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: for skiing for me, it takes five to six hours,

1168
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: and then you add two to three hours of emails

1169
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: and correspondence with my sponsors and uh stuff on top

1170
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: of that. All of a sudden, I have a full

1171
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: full day of work done. When that's over, I want

1172
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: to come and come home and hang out with my family.

1173
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I want to come hang out with my wife and

1174
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: spend some time with the kids, maybe do something quote

1175
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: with them or whatever. So all of a sudden, that

1176
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: time that I could have spent shooting my bow or

1177
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: going for a run to get fit and ready to

1178
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: hammer the hills looking for elk goes away. So UM,

1179
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: if I want those things, I have to get up

1180
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: a little earlier and do it, and just do them

1181
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: first thing. So UM, when when our three season starts

1182
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: getting closer, if I start to feel aunty like I

1183
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: haven't shot enough late, I'll get up early into or

1184
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: I'll get up early and go for a run and

1185
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: then I'll shoot twenty arrows and when I get back

1186
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: from the run or something like that. So those habits

1187
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: are certainly helpful. But another life hack for you and

1188
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: for for anyone listening. UM. One of the most underrated

1189
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: skills is the power to visualize. Um. It's certainly a

1190
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: buzzword nowadays and people are getting more and more into it.

1191
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: But UM, one of the things that I do in

1192
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: my sport is I was talking earlier about training the

1193
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: fringe or preparing for worst case scenario. I spend a

1194
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: lot of time visualizing the worst case scenario. So that

1195
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: goes from everything to poor conditions in the half pipe.

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a blizzard, Maybe it's you know, thirty mile

1197
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: an hour across wind. Maybe the pipe is poorly cut,

1198
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: so I have to pop extra horror to try to

1199
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: stay in the pipe without landing on top of the

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: landing on the coping or whatever it is. I'll train.

1201
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll visualize myself executing in those difficult circumstances, so that

1202
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: if that happens in my life, I feel like I've

1203
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: been there. And that's something that I've applied to my

1204
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: hunting life as well, where I'll visualize certain things. I mean,

1205
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I think you can hear it in my voice,

1206
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: but I talked about it. I'm obsessed with honey. So

1207
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of videos and I've seen what

1208
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: other dudes have done wrong and how things went wrong.

1209
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: So whenever I watch another video, whether it's you or Steve,

1210
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: or it's Rammy Warren or somebody I look up to

1211
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: and I watched them blow it, I take note of

1212
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: that almost more than the times that they're successful, because

1213
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, they blew that or that opportunity went

1214
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: south for a certain reason. Then I'll actually take that

1215
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: into my repertoire of things I visualized, and I visualized

1216
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: how I could have how they could have been more effective,

1217
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: and I'll visualize doing that, executing that more effectively and UM.

1218
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: So then if happens to me, I feel like I've

1219
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: been there. UM. And in the same way for skiing,

1220
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll i'll actually visualize crashing, and I don't do it

1221
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: a lot. I visualize landing. I would say, I have

1222
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: to certainly visualize landing just as much as I have

1223
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: to visualize crashing. But the reality is, at some point

1224
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a mistake, and so I have

1225
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: to visualize what I do once I've made that mistake

1226
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: just as much as I do. I have to have

1227
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: to visualize what I do when when I haven't made

1228
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: a mistake, you know, like the perfect takeoff, perfect landing

1229
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: is what I'm shooting for. But what about a bad takeoff?

1230
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Can I still fix that? Or maybe I am going

1231
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: to land on the deck and you know it's either

1232
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be a catastrophic injury, or if I stay cool,

1233
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: calm and collect and UM sort of mitigate the force

1234
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: of impact and spread it out between multiple body parts

1235
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: rather than just one, I might actually not get injured,

1236
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: and another person who hadn't been prepared for that situation

1237
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: would have. So that's another thing that you can prepare for. UH.

1238
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: Visualization wise, UM is looking at Okay, what could go wrong?

1239
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: What would I do? What would I do in a

1240
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: perfect world? Uh? Steve talks a lot. Steve Bornella talks

1241
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot about when how there's no way to train.

1242
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: You always say there's no way to train for that

1243
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: moment when you get to make the shot, and I disagree.

1244
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: I think that you can prepare for it. You can

1245
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: see it in your head a thousand times. I'm not

1246
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: saying it's perfect, but it's better than not doing. If

1247
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: you visualize that moment over and over and over again,

1248
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: then when it actually happens, it feels like you've already

1249
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: been there and you your chances of executing well are

1250
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: way higher. I mean, I didn't execute my first shot

1251
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: at a deer well. My second shot certainly went a

1252
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: lot better than my first, and that that was an

1253
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: experience thing. But the power of visualization is that you

1254
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: can develop this familiarity with something that you do. I

1255
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: was about to ask, you actually do it when you

1256
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: do that visual visual excuse me visualization, because for me,

1257
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: I think this is such a great point to bring up.

1258
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: I do this exact thing and I don't even know

1259
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: if I've talked about it before, but I do think

1260
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: it helps so much when I get and so when

1261
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm on a white tail hunt, I climb up into

1262
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: the tree and in my tree stand, I get my

1263
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: bow hung up, all my stuff settled. Usually one of

1264
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: the first things I do once I'm set is I

1265
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: grabbed my bow and I visualize exactly what each different

1266
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: possible scenario might be. So I literally think about seeing

1267
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: a deer emerged from this patch of brush and he's

1268
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: walking this way, and I think, Okay, where am I

1269
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna look at the shot? And I picked the shooting lane,

1270
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: and in my head I'm envisioning him walking into it.

1271
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: Then I draw my boat or kind of fake drow

1272
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: my bow without actually pulling it back. But I make

1273
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: sure that I can go through that physical motion. I

1274
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: think through the whole thing, and I try to do

1275
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: that in each different possible shooting lane or or section

1276
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: of the tree where I might possibly have that shot.

1277
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: And just going through that in my mind, playing out

1278
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Speaker 1: those scenarios, both physically and mentally, I think makes a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge difference. I really do think it in some small

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Speaker 1: way better prepares you for that moment um. So is

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01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: that the main time when you're visualizing things in relation

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01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: to hunting, or are there other times within your training,

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01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: within the months or weeks leading up to things when

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Speaker 1: you do this kind of worst case scenario um thinking through, Yeah,

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: the only the reality is the only person who knows

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: that you're doing this or are really benefits from this

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: is you. So I mean, you can do it. You

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: can do it as much or as little as you want.

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Speaker 1: I personally am a proponent for doing it a lot

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Speaker 1: because I really do believe and I believe it works. Um.

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Speaker 1: But that's a great example most especially if you're in

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Speaker 1: a white tail or not just white tail, but if

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Speaker 1: you're in a tree stand hunting or a tree saddle

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: hunting environment. Um, Once you're out there and you're set up,

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: you still have a lot of time. You know, things

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: don't happen right away. They almost never do, So you

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01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: have a lot of time that rather than sitting there

1298
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: and reading a book on your phone or flipping through

1299
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Facebook waiting for something to come in, you could be

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01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: preparing yourself for whatever situation you could have in that

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01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: location right in front of you and the world. You know,

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be kicking yourself if something comes in from

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01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: a direction you didn't expect and you don't know what

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: to do when it does. So I think that's a

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: perfect time to apply this visualization thing. Is, once you

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: get up in your tree and you're settled, look at

1307
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: every single shooting lane you could possibly have, even look

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01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: at the weird ones, look at the ones that I

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: would be totally unexpected. Yeah. Sure, you you understand the

1310
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: patterns of deer. You know exactly where you think they're

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01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: going to come in from. But the reality is, dear autonomous,

1312
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: they they sometimes do whatever the heck they want to do,

1313
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: and then it's a totally different from what you expected.

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01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: So plan, plan for anything and everything. And then if

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: you've if you've seen those experiences a couple of times

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01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: over in your head, then when it actually happens, like

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01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: I said, it will actually help you stay cool, cool, calm,

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01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: and collect more than if you had just waited and

1319
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: and trusted yourself. I know I'll have this when it happens.

1320
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: And then how many times after the fact you're like, well,

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that to happen. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: visualize a lot while I'm practicing, because first of all,

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01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, I like to make practicing fun. In the

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01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: same way that when I'm at the gym training for skiing,

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: I try to make that fun as and enjoyable as

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: well as effective. So my trainer Max and I we

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Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff that's balanced oriented or eyes closed,

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: one legged or um. He likes to create super balanced,

1329
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: challenging surfaces because he knows that skiing, I'm constantly skiing

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Speaker 1: on an unstable surface. So he'll literally put soap. He'll

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01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: put like a slippery block with soap under it and

1332
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: tell me to land on it without falling, without the

1333
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: things slipping off from under me, or on a balance

1334
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: board or things like that. So I'm constantly challenging myself

1335
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: in a balance oriented way, wow strengthening, and that makes

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Speaker 1: it fun, It makes it interesting, It makes it it's

1337
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Speaker 1: something that I, uh, I can get excited about even

1338
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: though I'm just essentially in the gym grinding again, you know,

1339
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: it takes the drudgery out of it. So that's what

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01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: I do when I'm practicing shooting, as well as I

1341
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: put myself in the most exciting scenario as I can.

1342
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's actually a really powerful

1343
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: tool to be able to use your imagination and be

1344
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'm on this location. Can I imagine this

1345
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: being a hunting like scenario? Okay, maybe I would shoot

1346
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: off my knee, maybe I shoot off my butt. Uh,

1347
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: perfect example. UM, I have never hunted antelope with the

1348
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: boat before, or I had never hunted the handlop with

1349
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 1: the boat before. Um, but somebody casually mentioned that they

1350
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: had shot off of their butt, and UM, I was like, really,

1351
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: in what situation would I ever shoot off my butt?

1352
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: For a Western hunter, that's unheard of. Sure, shoot off

1353
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: your knee, you know, shoot leaning back, you know, shoot

1354
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: on unstable surfaces. But like, in my mind, I could

1355
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: never picture a situation where I would be sitting on

1356
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: my butt shooting a bow. But because this guy's mentioned that,

1357
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm gonna try that. So

1358
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: I literally sat down on the ground flat like you know,

1359
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: Indian style, with my legs splaid out, and practice shooting.

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: And my first couple of shots were awful, but I

1361
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: got to the point where I could still get my

1362
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: bow level and steady and shoot decently well. UM, So

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: then I drew a teg. I drew an antelope tag

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Speaker 1: into the sixteen and went out and hunted it, and UM, Actually,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the episodes I'm gonna be releasing

1366
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: on the Wise Off the Grid channel on YouTube soon,

1367
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: so you guys can go do a little flashback and

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Speaker 1: watch this after having listened to this. Um And I

1369
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: was a little underprepared. I had had a busy summer,

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01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: so I had a couple of spots set up. But

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Speaker 1: I went in and checked those spots and there was nothing.

1372
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Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I'm gonna have to go

1373
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: find this. I had a couple more options. I had

1374
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: done enough preparation that I knew I could go elsewhere,

1375
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't have a blind set up on these

1376
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: other locations. So um, I went in to check this

1377
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: new location. Uh. And I was looking, I was like, okay,

1378
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 1: actually this is a great spot. There's playing an antelope

1379
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: sign here. I hadn't had a camera on there, so

1380
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know if there had been anything coming in

1381
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: coming and going. But I could tell they had been

1382
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: antelope there just because of the tracks. So I was like, man,

1383
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm this might be my spot. I'm gonna set up

1384
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: a blind right here. And I was kind of like

1385
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: crawling through the brush seeing where I might be able

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: to set up the camera, etcetera, etcetera. This is a

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Speaker 1: solo and I was completely alone, and I look up

1388
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: and here's an antelope coming in. While I'm setting the

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: blind up. I'm like building a blind and there's an

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: antelope coming in, and I'm like, oh crap. Obviously I'm

1391
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: not in the blind. There isn't one. So what do

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: I do now? So I just tucked in to the bushes.

1393
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: I actually had to crawl back, you know, thirty or

1394
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: forty yards uphill to get my bow, which is a

1395
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: terrible mistake. Obviously, you don't do that if it's if

1396
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: it's hunting season and the season is open, you should

1397
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: always have your weapons somewhere nearby, because you never know

1398
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Rookie mistake. Crawled up to crawl up

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01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: through the bushes, got my bow, crawled back down to

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Speaker 1: where I had been planning to set up my blind,

1401
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: and I go to draw. I go to pop up

1402
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: and draw my bow back, and I realized I'm gonna

1403
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: be way too exposed if I shoot from my knees.

1404
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: So I sat down on my butt, drew the bow back,

1405
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: and shot the sandal. And if I had never practiced that,

1406
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: but shot. I just did it. I did it on

1407
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: a whim. It was a complete whim. But if I

1408
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: had never practiced that, I wouldn't have been able to

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: I would have probably wouldn't been able to capitalize on

1410
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: that opportunity. So, um, you know, just random things like that.

1411
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, just practice anything and everything, and and visualize

1412
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: while you're practicing because it makes it more interesting. And then,

1413
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: like I said, once you get out in field, um,

1414
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: every terrain is different. Every every time I draw a

1415
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: new tag or hunt a new location, I'm like, oh man,

1416
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: this terrain. You know, maybe I'm hunting aspen used to

1417
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: hunting aspen forests or aspen groves or juniper forest or whatever,

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01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: and I'm in like a full on pine forest. That's

1419
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: obviously different terrain. Uh. So then you then you have

1420
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: to go through the different options in your head. Okay,

1421
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: what would it be like to encounter a deer here?

1422
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: And how would I act? And how would I shoot?

1423
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: Things like that. Just think through those things ahead of

1424
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: time so that when you do get the opportunity, you're ready.

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you do to train mentally, whether

1426
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: it be skiing and or hunting. I think I think

1427
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: the mental side of things, any kind of high pressure

1428
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: UM situation. It could be athletics, it could be hunting,

1429
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: anything that takes a lot of work that leads up

1430
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: to a single moment. There's a lot of mental stuff

1431
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: going on. There was sometimes gloss over. We like to

1432
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: talk about the the weight training, or we like to

1433
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: talk about all the work you're doing in the field

1434
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: to prepare for a deer hunting season order you know,

1435
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: hike in fifteen miles and get in the back country.

1436
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: Not a lot of time to spend about what's happening

1437
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,919
Speaker 1: between the years other than visualization, like we just discussed.

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Speaker 1: Are there any other things that you do to train

1439
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: that muscle, whether it be to handle the moment of

1440
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: truth or anything else. Yeah. Um, And that's one of

1441
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: the things there's no formula for. And a part of

1442
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: probably why that gets ignored is because that is the

1443
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: hardest thing to quantify. That's the hardest thing to teach

1444
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: people is how to be mentally strong mental toughness, uh,

1445
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: the ability to execute under pressure. There is no easy

1446
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: way to do that, as part of it comes from experience, um,

1447
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: but certainly you can do certain things to to prepare

1448
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: for it. And one of the most important things for

1449
01:13:54,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: me is sort of getting my heart right. It's uh

1450
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: reminding myself that no matter what happens at the end

1451
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: of the day, this isn't the most important thing I'm

1452
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: ever going to do in my life, you know, um,

1453
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: whether I'm competing in the Olympics or I'm drawing back

1454
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: on the biggest buck I've ever seen, even if I

1455
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: messed that up. You know, in pyeong Chang last year,

1456
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: I had I crashed on my first two runs. My

1457
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: ski came off on both of my first two out

1458
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: of three runs, and people ask me, how did you

1459
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: manage after all that adversity, how did you manage to

1460
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: land that third run? And part of it was because

1461
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't defining success on if I landed that run

1462
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: or not. I already knew that I was successful and

1463
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: blessed and fortunate to be alive, and I was just

1464
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and enjoy it. So that's where

1465
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: my for my mental fortitude in that moment came from,

1466
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: was just that I didn't I didn't. It's not that

1467
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to land that run, but I knew

1468
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying if I don't land this run. It's

1469
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world, and I think that

1470
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: that's something that can certainly help people keep their heart

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: rate lower, feel less stressed in the moment. Is no

1472
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: matter what opportunity you have in front of you, remember

1473
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: the long game. This, even though it seems like it's

1474
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: the only opportunity you're ever gonna have, you are going

1475
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: to have another opportunity. So take a deep breath, stay calm,

1476
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: be cool, execute the shot in the same way that

1477
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: you always do, and um, take that pressure off yourself.

1478
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: That's that's I mean, like I said, there's no real

1479
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: way to to train people to be mentally tough other

1480
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: than putting them through situations over and over and over again.

1481
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: But obviously you know not already has time to sit

1482
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: down with a mental mental coach and do that. So UM,

1483
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: I think the visualization thing is huge, um, as well

1484
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: as just sort of taking stop. One of the other

1485
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 1: things I was thinking about as we as you're talking

1486
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: through that though, is is right there, There's only so

1487
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: much you can do to train yourself for those moments,

1488
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: you know, going through it, getting you know, getting your

1489
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: head right, in your attitude right about what's really at

1490
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,919
Speaker 1: stake here. But I'm curious if there are any physical

1491
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: because because as I've been studying habits, some of the

1492
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: things that I've been reading about how you establish a

1493
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: good habit is having a queue. The first thing is

1494
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: there's that queue, there's something that triggers the habit. And

1495
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: I wonder if this applies to things like shooting your

1496
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: bow or dropping into the half pipe. Do you have

1497
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: a queue or a trigger that you consistently apply right

1498
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: before that moment to make sure that the next few

1499
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: seconds go as right as I possibly can so you

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: can execute on that game plan. Um. What does that

1501
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: look like for you that a couple of moments before

1502
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 1: you get into it? Yep, Um, yeah, I always have.

1503
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: I stumbled upon this somewhere along the way. Um. I

1504
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: always have a man truck for the year that I

1505
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: write on my sleeve. And so right before I drop in,

1506
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a local competition or to the

1507
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: first competition of the year or the last competition of

1508
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: the year, I try to remind myself to look down,

1509
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: read to sleep, uh, and apply whatever is written there

1510
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: to what I'm about to do. The first one I

1511
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: ever came across was embraced the opportunity UM, and I

1512
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: would just read that to remind myself that, UM, what

1513
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: the judges thought of me, what my competitors were doing,

1514
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: what everyone else thought of me, none of that really

1515
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: added to how well I was going to ski. In

1516
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: that moment. All I needed to focus on was the

1517
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: fact that I had an opportunity to go do what

1518
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: I felt like I was made to do and enjoy it.

1519
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: So I would look down, remind myself to embrace the opportunity,

1520
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 1: and then I would go ski uh this this past

1521
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: one UH for peeong Chang and all of the two

1522
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season, I wrote you cannot fail because it's

1523
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,919
Speaker 1: not your victory, And that for me was a reminder

1524
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: to myself that, UM, no amount of success in terms

1525
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: of gold medals or anything else was gonna make me

1526
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: anymore content or happy. I had already achieved those things

1527
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: and found out that none of those things actually really

1528
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: added to my happiness as much as UM quality time

1529
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: with my family or seeing my kids go through milestones

1530
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: of their own. So I was just reminding myself, that's right,

1531
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: this is just an opportunity, and even in failure, you

1532
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: can still be a shining example of of of a

1533
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: human being so, Um, you cannot fail. Literally, you can't

1534
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,919
Speaker 1: fail because even if you crash, that might be exactly

1535
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: what somebody out there who's watching needed to see, and

1536
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: you can smile about it, and them seeing you crash

1537
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: and then smile about it might be just the ammunition

1538
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: they needed to get over something in their life. Um.

1539
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: So that's where I was going earlier when I fully

1540
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 1: brain farted. Was that. Um, In my opinion, my personal opinion,

1541
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: you really can't fail. All we have is a long

1542
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: list of obstacles and things to overcome, and each one

1543
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 1: that you overcome, each one, each thing that you survive,

1544
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: becomes part of your quiver, you know. And um, So

1545
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: obviously as a bow hunter, I'm trying to and I'm

1546
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: trying to set myself up for as much success as

1547
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: I possibly can. But rather than being bitter or frustrated

1548
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: when something goes wrong, just take stock of what went

1549
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: wrong and add that to your add that to your

1550
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: your quiver. Say Okay, this happened that time and I

1551
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: reacted this way and that didn't work out. So next time,

1552
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: this is how I would This is how I would

1553
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: do things differently. And instead of taking a reactive approach

1554
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: to life. You end up starting to take more of

1555
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: a proactive approach to life, because I think a lot

1556
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: of people are reactive and and the easiest way to

1557
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: add to UM react to hard times this bitterness. Right,

1558
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: if you have something, you know, maybe you got laid

1559
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: off from work, or you were in an accident that

1560
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: was somebody else's fault, or you had something unfair happened

1561
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: to you, the easiest thing to do is be bitter

1562
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: about it because you're like, this is not fair. We

1563
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: all have this like sense of justice that and when

1564
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: things go don't go our way, our sense of justice

1565
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: is UM is offended at that. And I've just realized

1566
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: that things things aren't always going to be just, things

1567
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: aren't always gonna be fair. So rather than getting caught

1568
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: up in the bitterness of it, I just embraced it.

1569
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this this situation may in fact, I'm

1570
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: not going to pretend it doesn't suck, but while it's sucking,

1571
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to learn something from it and

1572
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: use that moving forward. Yeah, man, that there are there

1573
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: are a few things in life that are more i

1574
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know, more universal than that. I'm whether it's skiing

1575
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: or hunting, or work or family, like, there are going

1576
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: to be challenges, They're going to be significant bumps on

1577
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: the road. And I've always tried to take an approach

1578
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 1: similar to what you just describe there. It's like, what

1579
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: if you just look at things from a very practical

1580
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: standpoint and you have something that just happened, and what

1581
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: possible good can like that, you can't change what happened.

1582
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: It's water under the bridge, So you can either choose

1583
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: to be negative about it, and you can you can

1584
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: dwell on it, and you can cry woe is me,

1585
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: and you can get cranky and want to give up

1586
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: and all these things. And maybe that's the the thing

1587
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,480
Speaker 1: that you're body and your motions you know, instinctively instinctively

1588
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: want to do right. That's like the easy thing that

1589
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: feels kind of good in the moment to be piste

1590
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: or to get upset. But but what in a practical

1591
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: sense of the of the thing, what does that achieve?

1592
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: Like if your goal is if you still have a

1593
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: goal out there, how is that going to help you

1594
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: take the next step towards it? And so I've always

1595
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: tried to really quick really move on from whatever it's

1596
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: gone bad, Like what's next? Like, Okay, this thing happened,

1597
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: understand Like it's a like for whatever reason, it's like

1598
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: a counting term always stuck with me. It's a sunk cost.

1599
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: Like it's a thing that happened. That's the reality. How

1600
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: do you move on from that? How do you what's

1601
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: the next thing? There's no point in dwelling on further. Um.

1602
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: It's so applicable in the hunting world. I mean, so

1603
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: many things go wrong. You you screw up a stock,

1604
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: or you you've been in a tree stand for fourteen

1605
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: days straight and you sat there for twelve hours every

1606
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: day and you've froze your butt off, and then you

1607
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: can see the buck of your life and you miss

1608
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: the shot um or or or even worse, you you

1609
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: hit a deer and you can't find it and you

1610
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: wounded it and used to live with that. Um. I

1611
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: mean those are There's so many possible low points where

1612
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: you go from the highest highest to the lowest of

1613
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: lows and it can just send you into a tailspin. Um. Yeah,

1614
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like this is one of those

1615
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: things that is not discussed enough in the hunting world,

1616
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: like how to deal with those mental challenges throughout, whether

1617
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: it be failing or whether it being something that's thrown

1618
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: in your way. Um, and you describe a couple, you describe,

1619
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, crashing on in the Olympics, right, you've got

1620
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: some incredible opportunity and you and you bifoit to the

1621
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: first two runs. Or I know, just recently you broke

1622
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: your femur right, and that's got to be just an

1623
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: unbelievably demoralizing, challenging thing too, that's completely thrown your plans

1624
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: out of whack. That's not just physically damaging, but I'm

1625
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: sure mentally challenging. To Um, what are things that you've

1626
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: And you've described a couple here, but I'm curious if

1627
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: there's other things you've done too to to build up

1628
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: your defenses to deal with this inevitable challenge that's gonna come. Right,

1629
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: we know something's gonna happen. The only thing I can

1630
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: guarantee everybody listening is that you're gonna have some kind

1631
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: of thing like this pop up in your life or

1632
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: your next hunting season. Are there any other things that

1633
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: you do to to mentally armor yourself heading into the future,

1634
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: heading into a hunting season, or any other things that

1635
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: you do to help deal with this kind of a

1636
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: net will obstacles and challenges that that hit us every year,

1637
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: every week in some kind of way or type. Yeah,

1638
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: I think you brought up a good point. It's not

1639
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: a it's not a question of if adversity is going

1640
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: to strike. It's just a question of when. And Um,

1641
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're riding the high point, you get used

1642
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: to it and you learn to expect it. You're like, man,

1643
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: things have been good so long, They're going to continue

1644
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 1: to be good forever. And so the preparation in terms

1645
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: of preparing for hardship is just as important in the

1646
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: good times as it is in the bad times. Um.

1647
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: You know, basically coming off of uh winning the Olympics

1648
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: and sociate in two thousand and fourteen, UM, I had

1649
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: been riding away. It started with the started with the

1650
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: X Games in two thousand eleven to let's yet or

1651
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Yeah, won the X Games two

1652
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, thirteen fourteen, right into my first and right

1653
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: into the sports first Olympics, and I was the guy

1654
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to bring home the gold medal. So I

1655
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: was riding a high and all of a sudden, I

1656
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: went from the highest time of my life to some

1657
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: of the lowest times of my life. UM My wife's

1658
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: dad died, my sister lost her leg. We were just

1659
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 1: surrounded by deaths in the family and deaths among friends,

1660
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: and it was just a really heavy time, really difficult time.

1661
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: And um, I realized that I can't expect things to

1662
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: to continue to going good in the same way that

1663
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: you can't expect things to continue going bad. You have

1664
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: to have during the hard times, you have to have optimism,

1665
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: but during the good times you also have to have

1666
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: a certain amount of reservation. You have you have to

1667
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: appreciate them for where what they are, you know, but

1668
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: you also have to realize, Okay, these this is good,

1669
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: this is this is as good as things can go.

1670
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: And I can't learn to expect this or else I'm

1671
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: certainly going to be distraught when they start going poorly. Um. Ironically,

1672
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 1: while I was having three of the least successful seasons

1673
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: of my career in skiing, I was having the best

1674
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: years of my life as a hunter. Uh you know.

1675
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: I I got into this bow hunting thing and was

1676
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: immediately successful. Um. You know, in a in a period

1677
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: of three years, I think I uh filled every single

1678
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: tag that I purchased. I was like, you know, I

1679
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: drew drew an about a deer tag filled it, and

1680
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: then I was like, well, that's fun. Maybe I'll go

1681
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: buy over the counter tag filled that one. And then

1682
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I bought a nelk tag filled that one, and it

1683
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: was just like, man, I could everything I touched in

1684
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: the hunting in terms of hunting turned to gold. So

1685
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I was struggling on the skiing side and being successful

1686
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 1: on the hunting side, and then last year was almost

1687
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: a flip flop. I went from you know, I had

1688
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: an amazingly successful year in skiing and a really very

1689
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: a really difficult year hunting. UM still was able to

1690
01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: manage to semi filled the freezer, so it wasn't all bad, UM,

1691
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: but it was definitely challenging. So yeah, preparing for those

1692
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: those rough times, UM, reminding yourself what is important. I

1693
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: talked about balance earlier, where UM, I think it's really

1694
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: important to have things that balance you h and make

1695
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: you can that that that you can be content with

1696
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: outside of the things that you're passionate about. So UM,

1697
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I got into writing when I had one of my

1698
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: first injuries, my first knee injury, and I realized, okay,

1699
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: if I ever have a career ending injury, there's something

1700
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: that I can do that still occupies occupies my entire

1701
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: mind and soul that's not skiing. So that takes a

1702
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: little bit of pressure off. So when I have a

1703
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 1: crash and skiing, or have a situation like I'm in

1704
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: right now sitting here with my leg up because I

1705
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: was broken femur um, I have something else to pour

1706
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: who I am into and or I think we were made.

1707
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: I believe we were created, uh to create like we were.

1708
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: We were created by God, to do things with our lives,

1709
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: to do to to make new things or make new

1710
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: pass or um the innovators in some in one way

1711
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: or another. And so having having those balancing aspects of

1712
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: your life, I think it is a huge tool to

1713
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: h to weathering those hard times. Like you said, in

1714
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: hunting especially, it's having enough grit to get through the

1715
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: hard times and still make the shot when things turn around.

1716
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Is the hardest. It's the hardest aspect of hunting. Um.

1717
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Like you said, sitting in a tree stand twelve hours

1718
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: a day for ten days in a row and still

1719
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: making that shot out after sitting there for eleven hours,

1720
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: freezing your ass off is hard? Is it really hard?

1721
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 1: But um, if you can find your way outside of

1722
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: making that shot, um, I think it will really add

1723
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: to your ability to make that shot. If you're like, Okay,

1724
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm here, this is an opportunity, I'm I'm I'm here

1725
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: because I love the art of bow hunting, and if

1726
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: I get an opportunity, I'm sure as hell going to

1727
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: make the most of it. But if I don't get

1728
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity, this time was still well spent. This time

1729
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: was still worth it to me. If you can find

1730
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: that place, uh, I think that'll be a huge asset

1731
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: to move forward. Like I said, these are all just

1732
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: my opinions, so you know, take it really Yeah, And

1733
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: we've we've covered some really interesting things here. I I'm

1734
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: realizing now that I had about seven hours worth of

1735
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: things I would have liked to talk to you about it.

1736
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: It's my fault. I've been long winded. Ah my, No,

1737
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm loving the tendency to rabbit trail. That's that's the

1738
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of conversation i'd like. Um. So we kind of

1739
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of things on the mental side,

1740
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: being mentally tough, how to visualize, how to move on

1741
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: from failures, how to prepare your self both both physically

1742
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: and mentally, how to balance things, how to develop good habits.

1743
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: A lot of ground has been covered. Um, But but

1744
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: you're a person that I that I think and I'm

1745
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you are surrounded by a lot of

1746
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: by virtual simply of of what you do professionally and

1747
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: maybe otherwise to just the types of people that you're

1748
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: interested in surrounding yourself with. I envisioned that you are

1749
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of these these elite performers in whatever

1750
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: might be, whether it be business, sports, whatever, And and

1751
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: that might be a tip right there, which is I've

1752
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: always heard that you know, you are the sum of

1753
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: the five people you spend the most time with. I'm

1754
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: curious maybe that's partially true for you if you try

1755
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: to surround yourself with people that that that forced you

1756
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,799
Speaker 1: to grow and involve and become a better version of yourself.

1757
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: But put them the backburner, because my my main question is,

1758
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: of all these people you're around, what's one more trait

1759
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: or quality or or habit or process or anything. What's

1760
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 1: one more life half or something that you see consistently

1761
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 1: across those high achievers, those people that have have figured

1762
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: it out. Those people have done the very best they

1763
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: can possibly do in their space. Is there anything that

1764
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: you see consistently or that stands out to you as

1765
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: admirable or important that that we should leave this conversation with, UM, Yeah,

1766
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 1: maybe you always You always answer questions with a bias,

1767
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 1: So of course I'm gonna answer this question with a bias.

1768
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I noticed about high

1769
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 1: performance more than anything else is their ability to um B.

1770
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to say easy going because I don't

1771
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: want it to be I don't want to sound like

1772
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, there's no big deal that it doesn't

1773
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But one thing I noticed about really

1774
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: affected people is that no matter how hard things get,

1775
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: they react the same way. They are consistent across the board,

1776
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: whether it's things are going exactly right where things are

1777
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: going exactly wrong. They execute their tasks in the same

1778
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: way with the same mentality. And maybe that comes down

1779
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: to have it. Maybe that comes down to programming or

1780
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: ritual or whatever it is. But I've noticed that, um

1781
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: they don't freak out and worry or anxiety. I think

1782
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: have has a tendency. First of all, it's a natural

1783
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: it's it's a natural reaction to difficult circumstances, like, man,

1784
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: this is hard, I don't know what's gonna happen. And

1785
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: you get uncertain and then you start, your heart rate

1786
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 1: goes up, you get stressed out, and all of a sudden,

1787
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: your actions are not optimal. They're they're not as good

1788
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: as they would have been if you had stayed cool commonplex.

1789
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: That's one thing I noticed about really affective people is

1790
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: that they h they're really task oriented. So rather than

1791
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:54,959
Speaker 1: rather than stare at the problem so that arises, they

1792
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: stare at the task that they have to do to

1793
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: come to combat that problem. Whatever the situation is, whether

1794
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: you know your business is tanking or um, you're failing

1795
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: on the stock of a lifetime um. Rather than saying, oh,

1796
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: the stock is falling apart, the deer is blah blah blah,

1797
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: say where am I in this space and what can

1798
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I do next? And just really focusing on the next step,

1799
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: saying in the moment, because it's really easy to live

1800
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: your life. Uh. And it's either it's it's easy to

1801
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: live your life either in the future or in the past. Uh.

1802
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: And you can spend too much time beating yourself up

1803
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 1: for your past mistakes, or you can spend too much

1804
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: time dreaming about the future and fantasizing and saying, oh, man,

1805
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: when I get in on that deer, this stock, when

1806
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: this stock goes perfectly and I get it on that

1807
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: deer and I shoot it, that's gonna be the biggest

1808
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: buck I've ever shot. All of a sudden, you're not

1809
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 1: acting in the moment. You're not you're not you're not focused,

1810
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you're not you're not living where you are. So um,

1811
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: that's one thing that I know is about really really

1812
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a to people like like you said in All Realms

1813
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: is um that they are really good at staying very

1814
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: present here I am what do I do next? And

1815
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: they're still dreamers. I'm not discouraging dreaming. Trust me, I'm

1816
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: a dreamer, man. I I set lofty goals and I

1817
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: essentially try to shoot for the stars and everything that

1818
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: I do because I figured that way, I won't be disappointed.

1819
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 1: Uh if I if I tried something that was too

1820
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: hard and I don't make it, I won't be nearly

1821
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 1: as disappointed as if I didn't try enough. Um. So

1822
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not discouraging dreaming, but I also think

1823
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 1: it's super important to stay tied at the moment and

1824
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and what can I do next in this next moment? Yeah,

1825
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I want to ask you another question what something you

1826
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: just said, But I feel like I should try to

1827
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: wrap this up, so don't keep you too well. I

1828
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: feel I feel to blame for this, So if you

1829
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: want to ask me another question, I'm all for it. Okay, Well,

1830
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask two questions then to what you just

1831
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: said about goals. That's something that I was just recently

1832
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 1: talking about, and I really I think about goals a

1833
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: lot when it comes to each hunting season. And again,

1834
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: this might just be because of how goal oriented am.

1835
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: Some people maybe go into a hunting season and just

1836
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: like hey, I want a good time and that's fine. Um,

1837
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:21,799
Speaker 1: but for those that all that are more goal oriented, Um,

1838
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: how do you and you you alluded to this a

1839
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: little bit, but can you share this a little bit

1840
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: about how you go through the goal setting process, whether

1841
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: it be skiing or hunting, and any advice to those

1842
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: of us for how to either better set goals or

1843
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: better execute on them, because that's a big thing, right.

1844
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: We all have these New Year's resolutions or these yearly goals.

1845
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 1: And then for a lot of folks and I'm guilty

1846
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: of this sometimes too, it's a lot of stuff falls

1847
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: by the wayside. So how do you make sure that

1848
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: you're checking in on it, that you're actually executing on it. Yeah,

1849
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: oh man, that's a that's an excellent question that I

1850
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: would love to answer because it's something I feel like

1851
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: I can I can speak to from personal experience. So, um,

1852
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: I have a really simple, but I feel elegant system

1853
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: of setting goals. And I can't take credit for it.

1854
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: I didn't come up with somebody else did, but I

1855
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: heard it and I was like, yep, I'm gonna do that. So, um,

1856
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: I set goals in three stages. I have my lofty goals,

1857
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: I have mid range goals, and then I have daily goals,

1858
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: and um there, I mean there's a there's a million

1859
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: stages in between. But if I'm just trying to give

1860
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: you a good way to visualize it, it's, yeah, the

1861
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: long term goals, you know, the future goals, the mid

1862
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: range goals, and then what are you gonna do tomorrow

1863
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: to get there? And I think that that's a really

1864
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: effective way to go about achieving your goals, because um,

1865
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: everybody has, like you said, new Year's resolutions. I want

1866
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: to be twenty pounds skinnier by the summer, or whatever

1867
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 1: it is, by by bow hunting season. I want to

1868
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: be you know, I want to be able to run

1869
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: an eight minute mile or whatever it is. And um,

1870
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 1: that's great to have that goal. That's a great starting place.

1871
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: So for me, it starts with the lofty goals. And

1872
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: I said, it was where do I want to be

1873
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: in the future, whether it's a year from now or

1874
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 1: ten years from now. I tell myself where do I

1875
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: want to be in the future, and then I try

1876
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:20,520
Speaker 1: to pick a midpoint that I feel like fits that trajectory. So, UM,

1877
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: I think I feel like it's it's better to speak

1878
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: through examples. So I'll use a personal example. And and

1879
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound cocky to some people, Soviet. Um.

1880
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: I have a long term goal of competing in the

1881
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: summer Olympic Games. So I've been to two Olympics uh

1882
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: in the winter obviously had a pretty good run at it.

1883
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: I'm going for another one in Beijing. In Beijing. In um,

1884
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: those are those are all part of my my skiing goals.

1885
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 1: But as a super long term goal, I want to

1886
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: shoot archery in the Olympic Games. That's first of all,

1887
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: it's obviously it's super locked goal. Like I said, it

1888
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 1: sounds cocky for me to even say that out loud.

1889
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I n percent admit that. But why not shoot for

1890
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: the stars? So that's a ten year goal. Say I

1891
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: call it a ten year goal, twelve year goal, whatever

1892
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's a long it's a long term goal.

1893
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: And so but I'm fascinated with this, this um sort

1894
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: of the this ability that I've stumbled upon to take

1895
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: the mental toughness that I've developed for skiing and applied

1896
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: to being the best skier that can be in being

1897
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: the most effective competitor I can be in skiing and

1898
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: applying it to a different sport. So I personally think

1899
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: this is maybeing cocky Again, I personally think that the

1900
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: skills that I've developed in skiing will actually apply to archery. Uh.

1901
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: If I can learn the technique on the archery side,

1902
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: then I already possess the mental fortitude to compete well.

1903
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: So um, so there's a long the long term goal

1904
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: compete in the summer games in the Olympics. Now, I'll

1905
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: pick a mid range goal for that, and my mid

1906
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: range goal for that would be to be able to

1907
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: shoot professionally. Uh, shoot a boat professionally. So if we're

1908
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: talking Olympics, it has to be traditional, a traditional style bow.

1909
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 1: You can't use a release mechanism. Um. You can. You

1910
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: can put stabilizers in sights, but there's there's a lot.

1911
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: It's a different type of different style of archery than

1912
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: what I currently do with the amount of time that

1913
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: I have. So right now, I shoot compound bow. Um,

1914
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: I'll shoot two or three tournaments a year. I feel

1915
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: like most of the time I'm just shooting the tournaments

1916
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get ready for boss for hunting.

1917
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: But my mid range goal and then you know, to

1918
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: to combat or to to line me up for this

1919
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: long term goal is can I make a little bit

1920
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 1: of money shooting a boat? So that for me is

1921
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: a compound boat goal. It's like, can I take my

1922
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 1: compound bow and make a little money shooting tournaments? Um,

1923
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: So that's the mid range goal. And then the daily

1924
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: goal is obviously my daily practice and it and then

1925
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 1: it comes down to and then like I said, there's

1926
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 1: a million goals in between. So obviously I know if

1927
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: I want to be a be a quote unquote professional archer,

1928
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 1: I have to practice quite a bit, so daily goal

1929
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: is to practice. But surrounding myself with guys who are

1930
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: really good at shooting bows and know a lot more

1931
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: about technique than I do is obviously a really good

1932
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: stepping stone towards those two longer lofty goals. So, um,

1933
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: there's the short term goals, the mid range goals, and

1934
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: then the lofty goals. That's that's if if if you

1935
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: call it, you want to call it a life hack,

1936
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 1: that's what I've stumbled into for skiing, and so that's

1937
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: to make it relatable to my skiing goals. Um, I

1938
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 1: will set like I'll make say we're timeing with the

1939
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Olympics in I'll set a a run that I want

1940
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 1: to do. I want to be able to do this

1941
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: this many rotations in this number of tricks by two

1942
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, alright, And so then I'll say, okay, what's

1943
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: the mid range point there? Okay, so maybe the X

1944
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: Games two years before that or a year and a

1945
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 1: half before that or whatever, and I'll say, okay, in

1946
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: order to be able to do this run by then,

1947
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I need to be able to do a run that's

1948
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: at least uh you know of that by you know one.

1949
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: So there's my mid range bowl and then I break

1950
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: it all down into dai legals. Okay, I need to

1951
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: start working towards this trick. I need to get my

1952
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: I need to get my takeoffs better on that trick,

1953
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 1: because if I want to add a rotation to that,

1954
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm getting away with a with a mediocre takeoff now,

1955
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,879
Speaker 1: but if I want to do that with an extra rotation,

1956
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 1: I gotta really tune that that take off up and

1957
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: get it to be almost flawless. So um, yeah, there

1958
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 1: we go. Another long way to answer, a long way

1959
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: to answer to a short question. It's fascinating, um. And

1960
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: it's something I've been thinking about a lot myself, and

1961
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: the challenge being I do something kind of similar to this,

1962
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: but inevitably I find that, you know you either what

1963
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: am I trying to stay here? It's easy to lose

1964
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: track of some of that in between stuff like you

1965
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: might have this big lofty thing you know you want

1966
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: to do, but and maybe the daily things really easy.

1967
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: But then you get like life happens, right, stuff happens,

1968
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: All sorts of things come up, and it seems like

1969
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: the crux for me at least is the the assessment

1970
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: of goals, like how do you check in on or

1971
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 1: how do you stay accountable to them? And so I've

1972
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: been like thinking about trying to trying to find like

1973
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 1: an accountability partner or something like somebody who can you know,

1974
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: call me out on this stuff or that that I

1975
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:54,919
Speaker 1: have to be accountable to and talk about my progress.

1976
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: So far, my wife and I've kind of done this

1977
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, like on an annual basis, but with

1978
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: like my career and and hunting related things, I've thought

1979
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 1: about maybe I need a I don't want to call

1980
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: it coach, but just like someone who who who can

1981
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: be kind of aware of what I'm trying to do

1982
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: and and check me on it. Um, do you do

1983
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,520
Speaker 1: anything like that or how do you think about assessing

1984
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 1: and tracking your goal process? Yeah? I mean obviously I

1985
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: have I'm fortunate enough to have more tools than other

1986
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 1: people do because I'm on I'm on the US Free

1987
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Scheme team, So I have a couple of people. I

1988
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,879
Speaker 1: have a sports psychologists I chat with once in a while. Obviously,

1989
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: my my main coach, Andy h He and I are

1990
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: constantly checking in about strategy and I'm like, oh, what

1991
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: do you think about this strategy? You think that's a

1992
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: good way way to go? Or am I dreaming too much?

1993
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: Am I dreaming too little? And so I'm constantly checking

1994
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: that assessment with him, and then I'm constantly I try

1995
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: to constantly check in with him about am I getting

1996
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: closer to this goal at the right rate? Because I

1997
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 1: don't want to get there actually too fast? Ironically, Uh,

1998
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: part of skiing is strategy for me. It's like, I

1999
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: don't want to get there too quickly because if I

2000
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: reached this apex too soon, everybody else is going to

2001
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: have a chance to match it. So I want to

2002
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 1: reach it just at the right time. So we have

2003
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: to strategically plan these long term goals, and that's what

2004
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: makes it fun. That's what Andy and I enjoy doing.

2005
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, what where are we going next? Are

2006
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: we getting there at the right rate? How are we

2007
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 1: going to overcome this? This challenge is setback. Obviously, I'm

2008
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be down not I'm supposed to be not

2009
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: sitting here with the broken femur training right now, So

2010
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: how are we gonna overcome that? So personally I am

2011
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 1: visualizing I have these tricks that I want to work towards,

2012
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: and since I can't ski right now, I'm visualizing that

2013
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And part of this

2014
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: mandatory break that I'm taking, I'm using as an opportunity

2015
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: to dream. I'm like, Okay, that dream that I had,

2016
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: maybe it is, maybe it's cool, maybe it's not enough,

2017
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: or maybe by the time I get there it will

2018
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: have changed. Um, So why not taking an opportunity to

2019
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 1: dream up some new things or some different things or

2020
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: each see different runs in my head? And um I

2021
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: think that that that ability to adapt is important too,

2022
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: because I'm probably never gotten to a lofty goal in

2023
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: terms of my goal setting structure. I just talked about,

2024
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: I've never gotten to a lofty goal in the way

2025
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: that I anticipated game. A lot of times I have

2026
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: gotten there, but it was totally different than I expected.

2027
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 1: So being able to adapt your method while retaining the

2028
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 1: same goal is important. And I think I think an

2029
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: accountability of partners is super key for that. Finding somebody

2030
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 1: who understands what you want to do and just checking

2031
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: in with them once in a while is super super effective. Yeah, yeah,

2032
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 1: I think that mcent agree with you, and definitely trying

2033
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: to find some ways to incorporate that into my life,

2034
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: both hunting in non hunting related. I think that would

2035
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: be very beneficial. And if you can't, I'll just throw

2036
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: into not everybody's sportsnate enough to have a buddy who

2037
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: they can have as an accountability partner. But the reality

2038
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: is we all own the paper. And if you start

2039
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: a goal journal and you write down those journals, you

2040
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: write down those goals, lofty goals, midrange goals, daily goals,

2041
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: you just write them down. All of a sudden, you

2042
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: have something to check two weeks from now, or a

2043
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 1: month from now, or a year from now, and you

2044
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: can go back and say, Okay, what was my goal

2045
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: a year ago? It maybe has changed and I need

2046
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: to I need to adapt it. But um, that's that's

2047
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 1: another super effective range tool. That's something that I do.

2048
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 1: That's something I do on top of all the other

2049
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: things I described, is I have a goal setting journal

2050
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: and I'm constantly just reading my own words. What did

2051
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: I think I wanted to do by this time last year?

2052
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: And I'll oftentimes laugh at what I wanted to do

2053
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: by this time last year. Um, and other times I'll

2054
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: be like, dang man, I thought I was gonna be

2055
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: wait further long. How often do you update that or

2056
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: going there and create new goals or write this stuff?

2057
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: Is that like an annual practice or how often are

2058
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: you are you going on that dream journal? It depends

2059
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: on the time of year. Um, that's like that. My

2060
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 1: goal journal and my competition journal are kind of the

2061
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 1: same for me. So during the ski season it's weekly. Um,

2062
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: during the off season it's more probably monthly, but I

2063
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't ever I wouldn't say it's ever less than monthly

2064
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: because it needs to be part of your practice, an

2065
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: easy part of your habits for it to be really effective. Yeah,

2066
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. Well, this, uh, this

2067
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: has been one of my favorite conversations. Like, I've really

2068
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed this. It's got me excited to try to do

2069
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: more of this. This is so interesting to see how

2070
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: different people's ways of of excelling in life and other

2071
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: areas can be applied to what we do as hunters. Um,

2072
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: it's it just fascinates me. And um, you had so

2073
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,719
Speaker 1: much to share, David. So I'm bummed that I've talked

2074
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 1: so much because I wanted to hear from you more.

2075
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we just scratched the service, so maybe

2076
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: I can maybe I can convince you to come back

2077
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: for her own two sometimes soon? Yeah? Why not? Man,

2078
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Yeah, one last thing, I want

2079
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: to make sure to let folks know about what you've

2080
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 1: got going on out there and how they can fall

2081
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: along with what you're up to. I have been watching

2082
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: a number of YouTube videos leading them to this conversation

2083
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: and really enjoying them. Um, can you give folks just

2084
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 1: a quick heads up on on what you're doing and

2085
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: where they can find it? Yeah? In terms of um,

2086
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: the best way currently to follow my journey is is

2087
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 1: through YouTube. So UM, I have my Mr David Wise channel,

2088
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: which is just my lifestyle as a skier and as

2089
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: a family man, a little bit of everything. And then

2090
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: we have a subchannel on there called Wise Off the

2091
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 1: Grid and why is off the grid as us embracing

2092
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: my My wife and I both have this dream of

2093
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: being off the grid completely. That means eating game, me,

2094
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: growing our own food, and um, you know, doing solar

2095
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: power and as much as much as we can while

2096
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: remaining practical and being part of this world we live in.

2097
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: So we're not going to just completely check out and

2098
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: turn our cell phones off and not have the Internet,

2099
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: but we do want to work towards this tenure goal

2100
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: of being off the grid. So why is off the

2101
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:17,839
Speaker 1: grid is where you can watch all of my hunting

2102
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: endeavors or our hunting endeavors, I should say, because the

2103
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: only hunt that's up on there right now is actually

2104
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: my wife's hunt. But I have some content that I

2105
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 1: have been sitting on for a really long time. Uh,

2106
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 1: I've been basically solo filming all of my hunts from

2107
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: about two thousand fifteen on and I was actually going

2108
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: to use that content for another show that fell through.

2109
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 1: So now I have all this banger content that I'm

2110
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 1: excited to share with the world. So you guys can

2111
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 1: keep you guys can tune into that and you'll be

2112
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: seeing some of my old hunts, some of my some

2113
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite hunts, and uh, moving forward, some of

2114
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: the new hunts. So that's the best way to follow

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Speaker 1: my hunting stuff is through YouTube, my instagram personally my

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Speaker 1: skiing Instagram page Mr Davil Wise and then we have

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Speaker 1: a Wise off the grade wise Wise at wise o

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Speaker 1: t G is our Instagram page that goes along with Wise,

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Speaker 1: not the grid. So those are the easiest ways to

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Speaker 1: follow me very cool. Well, like I said, really have

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Speaker 1: enjoyed everything I've seen on there so far and highly

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Speaker 1: recommend everyone check it out. So, David, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man, Let's talk again soon. Yeah, and that is

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Speaker 1: the end. Like I just said, this was a very

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Speaker 1: very fun conversation for me and it inspired me to

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Speaker 1: maybe see if we can do more episodes like this.

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious to hear what you think. This is

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Speaker 1: definitely not like our average show or we just dive

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Speaker 1: deep with one hunter about how he hunts. This is

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Speaker 1: a lot more high level, but man, I think it

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Speaker 1: can be just as useful, if not more so, then

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Speaker 1: the typical show we have. So let me think what

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Speaker 1: you Let me know what you think by sending me

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Speaker 1: a message or a comment on Instagram or over at

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Speaker 1: the wire done face foot page, or hit me up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Would love to get your feedback. And with that,

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Speaker 1: I will just leave you with a big thank you

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Speaker 1: for spending your time with me here today and until

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Speaker 1: next time, stay Wired to Hunt.