1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome to Wednesday edition to Texans 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: John Harris. Glad to be with you this evening, and 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun because it's Wednesday night, so 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a Wednesday night draft. And so 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna do in his first segment and what we're 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna follow up with in the second segment is pretty 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: much the inspiration brought to us by Mike Adams. It's 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: our first piece of Texans news that we've we had 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: in a while, I guess probably since a combine. And 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: there the official news. Now there's some other news that's 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: out there that I've seen floating around, and I really 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: want to be true about lock snapper John Weeks, but 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: we'll wait for that to be a thousand percent true 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: before we break into that one. But what was made 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: one hundred percent lock it in not changing happen on 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football this morning as Mike Adams, who played 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: here his final year for the Texans, called it quits 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: as he said time to hang him up. Sixteen year 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: career out of Delaware, played for Sam Houston, state head 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: coach Casey Keeler where Casey was up with Delaware, they 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: won a championship, and I believe it was Mike's last 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: year there in two thousand and three. He was one 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: heck of a player in the league. Played for the Panthers, 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: played for the Browns, played for the Colts, and that's 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: when we saw him twice a year. And I love 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: the fact that we had an opportunity for one year 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: to be able to catch up with Mike Adams. It 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: was really fun. No that news came on Wednesday morning, 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: but Joe Doherty and I typically record in the lab 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: on Tuesday and are in the lab every now and again. 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: We kind of go on the way back machine, and 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: I figured, yeah, you know what, why not start with that. Tonight? 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: We went in the way back machine, and we'd like 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: to redraft. We like to take a draft that happened 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: and kind of flip it on a tier and look at, 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in hindsight, of course, what the Texans could have done. 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: And in the two thousand and four draft, when the 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Texas drafted down Day Robinson, a very good pick, mind you, well, 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: that whole draft it was kind of whacky, and the 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Texas could have gone a lot of different ways, but 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: sitting at pick number ten, there was a certain quarterback 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: they could have taken. Now, we don't have time for 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: the entire draft and letting you know what we all 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: had on the show. If you want to hear that, 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: here the go to the ind the Lap podcast wherever 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: your great podcasts are available. Typically there're a lot of 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: you iTunes iTunes podcast and you can hear the full 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: podcast because in that podcast, we actually drafted Mike Adams 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: for the Texans back in two thousand and three and 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: we eventually got him in twenty nineteen. So you want 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: to hear who all we drafted. It's an incredible undrafted 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: list of players and a few of them ended up 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl and we ended up drafting him 55 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: on our team Texans. You think the Texans draft picks 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: and draft schedule is weird this year, Wait, did you 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: hear what it was like in two thousand and four 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and see if you agree with our decision to go 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: back and draft a quarterback at number ten in a 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft. Here is Drew Doherty and 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: myself in the lab going back to the year two 62 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: thousand and four, and we are re picking for the 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Okay, it's gonna be a fun time. So 64 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, yep, if you don't remember two 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: thousand and four, that was Eli Manning at the top. Yeah, 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger draft and for your 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Texans that waste Robinson. Yes, so let's read better first 68 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: round draft picks by the way. Yeah, he was a 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: he was a solid player for the Houston Texans, did 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a good job, played here for about five years. For 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: five years. He was picked tenth overall, and you know, 72 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: he was probably your best corner in between uh, in 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: between Aaron Glenn and John and Joseph, i'd say, in 74 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: franchise history, and it's not a long time really, but 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: that's who i'd go with. So he was your first 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: plit pick tenth overall. Didn't pick again until the fourth round, 77 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: John and Wow went with went with a guy name 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Actually you picked you picked a joking there. You went 79 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: with Jason Babin again in the first roun. Yeah, that's right. 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: So he had two firsts. So technically you didn't pick 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: to the fourth round. Well technically you did, but in 82 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: that sense you didn't. What you're saying so you had 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: a pair of ones, a four, three sixes, and three sevens. 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I mean, just a weird top heavy and bottom heavy 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: draft and no middle class whatsoever. You had a fourth 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and that's it. So we're repick. Okay, Now, Texans, like 87 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: we said, they went with Dante Robinson, had a solid career. 88 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: He left in two thousand and ten for Atlanta. You know, 89 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: there was the whole brew haha with him getting franchise 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: tag in two thousand and nine. Had pay me Rick 91 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: on his cleats, which I didn't realize it was on 92 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: his cleats until after that game. But yeah, that that 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and four draft, the top ten picks, there 94 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: were seven of the top ten. They wanted to make 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: it a Pro Bowl. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: So at eleven he had Ben Roethlisberger and there were 97 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: other pretty good picks in there. So do we want 98 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to go with Ben Roethlisberger there at the tenth pick 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: instead of Dante Robinson? I think I'm gonna because David Carr. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: We know what David Carr is. But it was tough 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: to make that. We would have been impossible to sell 102 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: that pick at the time. We go with's Ben Roethlisberger 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: when you had a third year quarterback. Yeah, and you 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: had just taken you had just taken David Carr in 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and two. You're giving up on him after 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: two years. It was a new franchise. It's just that 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: that probably would have been the wrong thing to do. Now, 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: the other aspect with Ben and I believe he had 109 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: issues once he got to the league. I don't think 110 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: he had any issues that I remember at Miami of 111 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Ohio that I can remember, but I do know there 112 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: were questions about him off the field from that perspective 113 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: of the other's maturity or whatever the case might be. 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: So I think for two reasons, it probably even looking back, 115 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: would not have been a tremendous fit. Right, So, I 116 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: think it would have been tough. Now, using hindsight as 117 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: our guide, you gotta go with it. You go with it. 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to. You have to. I mean, 119 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: because you set yourself up. Now when we redrafted too, Now, 120 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: here's the question redrafting a two thousand and five knowing 121 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: how things worked out, and he drafted two thousand and five, 122 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: we got Aaron Rodgers at that point. I probably it's 123 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: an interesting thought here because you could wait. You could say, 124 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: let's go with Jonathan vilmam right, he's I mean, he'll 125 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: be great for you, and you'd put Vilma a couple 126 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: of years later, you'd put Vilma next to Damiko Ryans. 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: But the question becomes, if you have Vilma, do you 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: feel like you have to go get Ryan's because you 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: have Vilma. The thing about Vilma and Ryan's having both 130 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: would have been tremendous. You would have had Captain c 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: oozing out of your ears, because that was Vilma and 132 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Ryans were kind of wired the same way, very much 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: the same way, and played the game the same way. 134 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: They were very similar from the respective quarterbacks of the defense, 135 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: found the ball, smart, could run, They had all that. 136 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: So in oh four, my bacwards are still pretty good. 137 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: So I think in hindsight, tryan site, you'd take Ben 138 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: and it'd be tough to take Vince Wilfork who went 139 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty first, because you had two pretty good interior guys 140 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: in Gary Walker Seth Payne. So that would have been 141 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: a tough sell. Yeah, that would that would have been tough. 142 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Now here's one, and now keep in mind two thousand 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: and four. You also when you look at the players 144 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: that were drafted, the guys that turned into, you know, 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: pretty good players in this draft. Two thousand and four 146 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: was not a time in which you turned away from 147 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: running backs in the first round. We've kind of moved 148 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: more towards that. The running backs are just kind of 149 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: not as valued as they right they were. Uh, Stephen 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Jackson was taken at number twenty PI number twenty four, 151 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and that's a little bit down the road. But Stephen 152 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Jackson was a horse you talk about, get on his 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: back and ride. My goodness, he was that kind of 154 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: back for the Saint Louis Rams now the LA Rams. 155 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson was an absolute dude. So if you felt like, okay, 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: we can't pull the trigger on Roethlisberger, so Davis, Yeah, exactly, 157 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: And that's the other problems you did. You had dominic 158 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: Davis too. So that's what makes all this kind of 159 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: tricky in some sense with the players that are on 160 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the board at this time because you're pretty good at linebacker. 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: You just drafted a quarterback two years prior and you 162 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: really didn't see sort of the the breakdown yet. Well, 163 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: he would wind up in two thousand and four that 164 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: that was his best year. They went seven to nine. 165 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: They had a chance in December to go right, which 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: means that two thousand and five, probably i'd take Aaron 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers either, but because we're doing a sure hindsight, we 168 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: probably take Ben Roethlisberger. And okay, right, so we're going 169 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: with Ben roethlis We're banning the beard now. Now we 170 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna stick with the trade. We're gonna honor the 171 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: board because we're gonna trade up. And the Texans wanted 172 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: some pass rush help and they thought they were getting 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: it out of Western Michigan's Jason Babin. Yeah, he didn't 174 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: wind out working out, wind out, We're wind up working out, right. 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: He had some good years later in his career Tennessee, 176 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: who played pretty well there. So we've moved up. We're 177 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: not taking Babin. You go with an offensive tackle and 178 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Chris Snee pretty darn good player play guard the Giants, 179 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: Very very good. Chris, Tom Coughlin's son in law, had 180 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: a great career. Yep, you could, um, you could do. 181 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,479 Speaker 1: Julius Joe do some things running back for the Cowboys. 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: I want a difference maker, and I want a difference 183 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: maker at a spot that this franchise has been deficient 184 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: in for a long long time, and I think it's 185 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: only changed until recently. And I saw a guy who 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: he was kind of like a comment played great for 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: a few years. He sort of burnt out. But you 188 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: know what, I'm still gonna use a second on him 189 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: because the guy wound up becoming a defensive player of 190 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: the entire league. So give me Bob Sanders, a Biowa, 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: a strong safety. He went forty fourth overall. He was 192 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: in the second round to the Colts. So let's weaken 193 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: a division rival and let's strengthen our defense. Let's get 194 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: Bob Sanders. You cool with that, Daman Sanders. I have 195 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: one of my favorite documentaries all the time as a 196 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: documentary called The Last Game, and it followed Mike Pennen's dad, 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Mike Penner's defense coordinate for the Packers, and he was 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: a coach at a school called CB West and actually 199 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Mike penn Jr. Was at a school called Penn Hills 200 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: North Penn Sorry, and they were one two in the state. 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: They were father and son. They were wanted to two 202 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: in the state. And it's just phenomenal documentary and CBUS 203 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Mike penn Senior's team is going for a forty five 204 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: year old record, and in the final, in the last game, 205 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: championship game, they play Erie Cathedral Prep led by Ed Hankle, 206 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver who went to Iowa, and a running back 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: by the name of Daman Sanders Bob Sanders, and he's 208 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: phenomenals a running back, and early in that game, when 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: he's playing safety, he knocks out the star running back 210 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: for a CB West and so CB West ends up 211 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: winning the game on a blocked punt with two minutes 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: left in the game. Phenomenal story. But Bob Sanders, I 213 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: remember watching that and I'm like, he was tiny. I 214 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: don't think people understand he pounds. He was, he was short. 215 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: Now he was stocky, and he could deliver. He was fearless, 216 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: come out. So you just mentioned how smolly was. I 217 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: gave him the dimensions. So he combined that with his nicknames, 218 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: which were the hit man and the eraser, and that's 219 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: from Tony Dundee because Bob Sanders tended to erase them 220 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: stakes his teammates. When you combine hit man with a 221 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: small stature usually going to be a recipe for a 222 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: short window of success. So he played in in UH. 223 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: He played more than six games in a season, only 224 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: twice oh five and oh seven. But Darnett when he 225 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: played man, he was good. There was one other player 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: that I suggested at this particular spot to Drew. Go 227 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: check out the end Lap podcast. You can see we 228 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: eventually did settle on Bob Sanders because I was a 229 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: huge Bob Sanders fan, huge Bob Sanders fan, even though 230 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: didn't stand in the field. But when he was on 231 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: the field, man Drew said it. He is was dynamite. Dynamite. 232 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: But you gotta listen to the whole thing because you 233 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: gotta see all the different Pro bowlers we were able 234 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: to draft for the Texas, including Mike Adams, who's the 235 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: inspiration for our Wednesday Night draft. We will have that 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: for you next your favorite non drafted tex We drafted 237 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: three rounds and talked about this next right here on 238 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Texas Axis. It's time for our Wednesday Night draft, and 239 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I've brought the team around us. I have John Harris, 240 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: he'd be seated to my left, Drew Dory to my right, 241 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: and we have reserved an open share for the absent 242 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Mark Vannimir so see on an audition for something he 243 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: might be. He might be. I don't know Strenger thinks 244 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: for us coming out, he has been he's always want 245 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: to Russia. He noticeably absent, And what do you say, 246 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: he's in Russia. I said, he's always wanted to go 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: to Russia. I just haven't seen the trailers yet. The trailer, 248 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even dene on season three. Drew is Drew's 249 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: duel with season three, and I came to the party 250 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: late on that. I'll say this, man, maybe it's not 251 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: the best show ever, but dang it. Just about every 252 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: single episode through those first two seasons, at some point 253 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: in the episode I would get goose bumps. Yeah, because 254 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: I was watching on the big screen. I wasn't you know. 255 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't watching on a phone or on a tap. 256 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: I was watching on my TV. It was good, it 257 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: was really I really like it's a It's an enjoyable show. 258 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: I liked it up until season three. Season three, I 259 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: haven't been able to finish it. But what I like 260 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: about it is it takes place in the eighties in Indiana, 261 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: which is my jam of course, because the cars, the 262 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: license plates, the houses, like it's so for me especially, 263 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: it's so do you know it's shot in Georgia though, right, well, 264 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: but they made it look like I didn't know that, 265 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: but but it looks. But even the license plate they 266 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: had one it was wonder Indiana was the slogan at 267 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: one point, and I was like, oh, those are the 268 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: ugly Wondering Indiana license plates that were super costuming. Is yeah, 269 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: they do it awesome. It's brilliant. I didn't look that 270 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: fashionable in the eighties. They make it look at eighties 271 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was in middle school at that very time, 272 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: So looking back at some of the clothing and what 273 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: they were wearing, I'm just, yeah, I do the same thing. 274 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: It's nostalgic. But my daughter had watched the first two 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: seasons and so I, for some reason just decided I 276 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: thought she'd watched it. Wasn't sure. I was like, well, 277 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna just start it and see 278 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: what happens. And usually it's my son that I'll watch 279 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: a show like that. And I started going through and 280 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I was like, hey Megaro, did you watch this? And 281 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: she goes, oh, yeah, I'm all the way through all 282 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: both seasons. I was like, oh, okay, I gotta get 283 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: caught up. And so she would want updates like where 284 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I was, and there would be times I would just 285 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: text her out of them blue like, oh my god, 286 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: this happened. This is nuts. Uh, it's it's a really 287 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: good show now. A guy that who was a who 288 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: was a really good player in his career was Mike 289 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Adams aka Pops. He announced his retirement today on Good 290 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Morning Football. And we faced Mike a number of times. 291 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he played for the Colts for a number 292 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: of years and we saw him twice a year, and 293 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: he was a he was an excellent player, and I 294 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: just remember always facing him like I just knew he 295 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: was smart, he was gonna make a play against us. 296 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Hated playing agaim playing against him, and then we find 297 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: out he's coming here to Houston and he was for 298 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: a year. He didn't do earth shattering things. He was 299 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: in his sixteenth year. He didn't do earth shattering things. 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: But a lot of people not paying attention missed the 301 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: fact that he made some gargantuan plays in that playoff game. 302 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: He had to go in against Buffalo because I think 303 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Jalil was banged up and they were banged up at 304 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: the safety position and Gibson was on r Yeah, Sean 305 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Gibson go ir Mike had to come in because they 306 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: were banged up, and he made a couple of massive 307 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: plays in that game. And I talked to Mike a 308 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: few times, and I just really enjoyed his company. I 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: would assume that a lot of people in the locker 310 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: room did. I thought it was such a shame that 311 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: in Baltimore he was taken out by in a workout 312 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: before the game. I remember it was so I mean, 313 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: he just got he just got cranked. I mean, some guy, 314 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: I think it was Ty's Bowser was running in one direction, 315 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: he was running in the other and just nailed him. 316 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: And it was such a shame that he missed a 317 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: few games because of that. But it got me thinking 318 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: about what we could do for our Wednesday night. Because 319 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: over the years, since we've been in, since we've been 320 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: in the building, since we've been around. I've been around 321 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: since twenty and seventy. You've been you've been in the 322 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: building since twenty thirteen, Drew, you've been in since two 323 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. We've got to know these players, We've 324 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: gotten to see where they come from, and a lot 325 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: of them are drafted, you know, DeAndre Hopkins, Shaw Watts 326 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: and J. J. Watt. These guys are drafted or there 327 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: have been players that have been signed as undrafted rookies 328 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: that have stayed in their career. Aaron Foster is a 329 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: great example of that. But there have been plenty of 330 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: players over the years, like Mike Adams that have come 331 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: to the Texans and they have whether it's for a year, 332 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: whether it's for you know, a handful of weeks, whether 333 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: it's for a few years, whether it's establishing the the 334 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: longer part of maybe a two part career. One guy 335 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: that we've seen for the last what nine years, and 336 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: so at some point we've obviously those those guys have 337 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: become some of our favorites. So I figured for our 338 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: Wednesday night draft, let's draft our favorite non drafted or 339 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie Texans and dep you're going to start, well, 340 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: I have to take Jonathan Joseph. I have to take 341 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: I knew you would, yeah, because I just feel like 342 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: he's one of the I mean, he what a difference 343 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: he's his addition has made since two thousand and eleven 344 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: during the lockout year, him and Daniel Manning. I mean, 345 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I think if the Texans ever ever had a single 346 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: greatest day of a free agent signings. That's that way 347 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: that might be it. It's better than the Ostweiler Lamar 348 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Miller day. I was like, we did get Lamar Miller 349 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: out of that, we lost Bergstrom, we lost Oustweiler, and 350 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: uh there was a m Jeff Jeff Allen was all right, 351 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: all right, So it was it wasn't a total fiasco. 352 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: But um, I think Jonathan Joseph for obviously for the 353 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: reasons on the field, I think he had a lot 354 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: to do with Kareem Jackson's turnaround and his career. Kareems 355 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: talked about it very much at length. I think you 356 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: had aj Boyer coming up, you know, as as a 357 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: as a scout player, I think Jonathan Joseph has done 358 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things for young wide receivers and the 359 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: young dbs here and while he is what I mean, 360 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: what is this going to be year fifteen for him? 361 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed talking to him in the locker room 362 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: because I think his perspective on the game. I mean, 363 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for the day he retires and just 364 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: immediately gets an office somewhere as a coach, hopefully it's here, 365 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: because he just knows so much about the game. And 366 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: I know Cecil Shortz was on with us several months 367 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: ago during the season and he told me that after 368 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the Texans would play the Jags, Jjo would go up 369 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: to him and sort of talked him about his game 370 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: and things that differently. I mean, he just loves the 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: game so much, and I think he's just so giving 372 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: of his of his knowledge and his time in a 373 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: great interview. He's one of my favorites in the locker room. 374 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: So I gotta take Jo as the years go by, 375 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: And looking back at the two tho ten season before 376 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: the year before he got here, it's remarkable that the 377 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: Texans were able to win six games with that defense. Now, 378 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I had a pretty potent offense and they were able 379 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: to move the ball, but that's one of the I 380 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: think for time, until about December, it was it had 381 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: been the worst past defense since the am Felt NFL merger. 382 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they got shredded, and they got shredded by everybody. 383 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: It didn't matter if it was a good receiver a 384 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: pro bowler they were going against. They got roasted by 385 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: guys like Saggia Jeer or two two what and then 386 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: that guy he had his career day against Texans. So 387 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph when he came in the next year, he 388 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: was kind of like the the lead dog, the tip 389 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: of the spear. And one of the reasons that defense 390 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: got so much better now. Another one was Wade Phillips. 391 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: He came and changed the scheme. Connor Barwin got healthy 392 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: and had eleven sacks drafted. Jji Watt was solid as 393 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: a rookie and then took off in December and January. 394 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: But Jonathan Joseph, I'm with you that that's a tremendous 395 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: choice for what he did on the field before all 396 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: the stuff you mentioned off the field, that was a 397 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: great It's gonna be a different locker room when he's 398 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: not in it anymore, And I almost can't even imagine 399 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: what that's gonna be like without him in that corner 400 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: locker in the corner of locker room. And every year 401 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: we talk about the potential that he may retire, and 402 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: then Mike Adams News obviously brings it to the forefront, 403 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: like is j Joe you know, I mean, he's getting 404 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: up there in years too. But while he's here, I've 405 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed getting to know. Yeah, he's been, he's been, 406 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: he's been fantastic. I mean, somebody you could talk you 407 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: talk football with, you can talk about we talk about 408 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: our kids. I talked about my kids. He always asked, Deepe, 409 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: how are the kids doing? What are the kids up to? 410 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean it just I just you know, he's just 411 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: such a personable guy. Yeah, he really is. All right, Drew, 412 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: you are, by the way, We're gonna go four rounds 413 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: and if you just tuned in, we are selecting our 414 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: favorite non drafted or non undrafted rookie Texan didn't start 415 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: their career with the Houston Texas. Now was my player 416 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the greatest player on the field, per se, No, very 417 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: far from it. Came to town. I know where you're going. 418 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine. I had a position that was unheralded, 419 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: and he did a lot of dirty work. He did 420 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: so if he listened to Wade Phillips, if you listen 421 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: to Gary Kubiak, he did so and did so admirably. 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: He helped make the team better, even though you might 423 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: not have been able to see it. But off the field, 424 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: he was a he was an MVP. He was really 425 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: really funny, and he did on the nose with Sean 426 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: Cody one of my he's my favorite guy to deal with. 427 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: It's played many many times. Yeah, he's he's my choice. 428 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: I gotta put number ninety five up at the top 429 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: of the list there. I need to get him on 430 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: a podcast here soon. We need to do a Drew's 431 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: dozen with him, because it's been too long since we've 432 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: heard from Sean Cody. But that's my that's my dude. Nine, ten, eleven, 433 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and twelve, he was here with the Texans and then um, 434 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, Borrowin left and free agency that year, Cody 435 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: just didn't get signed by anybody. Back had gotten banged up, 436 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: as he said, his riblets had been broken in a year, 437 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: so he was he was done. But now he's doing great. 438 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: He's out in LA he's you know, doing radio for USC, 439 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: his alma mater. Who people people some people forget this 440 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: because he was kind of a journeyman. He's quote labeled 441 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: as a journeyman NFL player. He was the guy that 442 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: turned USC around. He was recruit Pete Carroll got that 443 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: really turned us around because they were flailing and flagging 444 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: in the late nineties and Sean was big time recruit 445 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: and got a lot of other players, so I'll go, 446 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I'll go with Cody, and then shortly after they got 447 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: a guy named Reggie Bush. And then yeah, yea, yeah, 448 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: thanks change. Yeah, my first pick is going to be 449 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: someone that he's only here a year, but mine, this 450 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: one goes a little bit. This one goes a little 451 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: bit deeper because he will always be one of my 452 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: favorite all time college players. And he came into the 453 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: league obviously with some hiccups that had happened in his 454 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: personal life off the field, and I wondered whether he 455 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: could could turn around and if he could, man, this 456 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: guy could be a way of a player. And I 457 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: remember meeting him for the first time we walked in 458 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: this room. I just remember thinking, godly, that's a he's short, like, 459 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: that's not a big dude, and yet when he was 460 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: on the field, he's one of the biggest dudes there was. 461 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: And I know that maybe for us he wasn't as productive, 462 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: maybe I guess as some people want him to be. 463 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: But I remember seeing him as a freshman LSU, and 464 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: I fell in love with the guy, the way he 465 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: played the game, and I was just it was really 466 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: cool to get to know him. My favorite story about 467 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthew was we beat Washington. That was a game 468 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: that Justin Reid had to pick six, and I just 469 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: happened to look back to see if there were any flags, 470 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: and I could see Tyrn having this one man celebration 471 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: down in the end zone opposite where everything was going, 472 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: and he's just freaking out. He's throwing his helmet. He's 473 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: so jacked up for Justin that they had made a play. 474 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: So he had a really good game in I watching 475 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: gamesters or player of the Game, and so I get 476 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: the opportune interview him afterwards and he comes over and 477 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: I could see and having a dad that dips skulls 478 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: entire life. I've seen that that lip before and he 479 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: just happened to walk over by the locker, but it 480 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: did before he came over to do the interview, did 481 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: the interview with the did the interview with the dipping, 482 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: and I just was like, that was pretty cool. So 483 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm going right off the bat with the honey Badger 484 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Tyrann Matthew. I just remember when he was signed to 485 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: the Texans, how excited everyone was. JJ with the honeypot 486 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: with a honeypot tweets and Drew and I pretty much 487 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: high fiving each other because they were like so excited 488 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: to be So here's the other story with Tyra Matthew 489 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: that goes with that. So that was a I think 490 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: it was the third. I think it was a Thursday 491 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: of Friday, and I think it was a Friday because 492 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I was I was getting out of here. It was 493 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: like three thirty three forty five and I literally got 494 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: down Murworth and Mark calls me. He was like, where 495 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: are you? And I was like, I'm coming back because 496 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: I knew at that point like something was happening. Something 497 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: was happening. Goes we might be signing a Honey Badger, 498 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, we just finished. We just finished 499 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: recording the entire show. So we have somewhere on this 500 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: computer we have the unaired Texans all access for we 501 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: Tyron Matthews signing with the Texans Fire our show that 502 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: we never aired because it because it didn't bec official 503 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: two hours after the show. Oh no, but we came 504 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: back and we did that show. We were glad to 505 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: have him anyways. So so there we go. So Jonathan Joseph, 506 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: Sean Cody, Tyre Matthew, Deepie second round. I didn't I 507 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: only got to spend a year with him, and it 508 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: was probably his least popular year in Houston. But I 509 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, when I look back at Texans history and 510 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: we unveiled the top one hundred moments in franchise history 511 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: last year, and I did get to know him in 512 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen and I had a chance to sit down 513 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: and do a deep slant with him. I think the 514 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: match Shob two thousand and seven trade with Atlanta has 515 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: got to be one of the best trades in franchise history, 516 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: just because of what he was able to do with 517 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak and things weren't working out with David Carr. 518 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: And you know, you look at the numbers that that 519 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: Shob put up in those early years. I feel like 520 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: if he was healthy now, and I mean he he 521 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: would be he could fit in pretty much any offense. Yep. 522 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: That you know like that that Kubiaki and offense has 523 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: sort of spread throughout the league, no doubt, you know, 524 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: he's done some great The fact that he's still out 525 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: there as a backup. Actually I shouldn't. I shouldn't talk 526 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: like he's out of the league because he's actually still 527 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, but the trade with Atlanta, I 528 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: went back and I looked up, so second round picks 529 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven and two thousand and eight, 530 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: and you get your starter for two thousand and seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, 531 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, so almost seven years. I mean that panned 532 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: out pretty well, especially now that we know how hard 533 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: it is to get quarterbacks and what you what you 534 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: have to give up in order to get your your 535 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: star quarterback. So um and he and he was a 536 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: great guy off the field. I mean, I think that 537 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about we talked about a lot 538 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: of different things. He hit a lady with a golf 539 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: ball in one of his golf tournaments, and I remember 540 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: that came up in one of my interviews and he 541 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: was just he was he was so apologetic. He did 542 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: he said, I did go and check with her and 543 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: make sure she was okay, and he genuinely still felt 544 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: bad about it, like years later. So that's that's good, alright. 545 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Match Shop stops off the second round. Drew, Well, my 546 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: dream scenario rolls on because I get to pick Antonio Smith. 547 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna take Antonio. I was gonna take Antonio. 548 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Was a close second round, but he was also a 549 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine Signy. He played one of my 550 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: favorite interviews. Played really well for the Texans, made a 551 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He you know, whether it was opposite JJ 552 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: Watt or opposite Mario Williams, helped at pressure, put pressure 553 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: on the passer. But just a real character. The ninja. 554 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: He explained how he became a ninja. He learned it 555 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: on the internet, Ninja school. Yeah. He would wear a 556 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: cowboy hat two games to and from sometimes. So he 557 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: was just a lot of fun to be around. He 558 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: was with us in twenty thirteen on the radio at 559 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: the dearly departed Houston Texans Girl Tuesday Nights, and that 560 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: was about the only guy you really want on a 561 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday night during that wreckage of a football series. He 562 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: was so funny. And I think Mark and Drew had 563 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to get to know what was Antonio Smith. 564 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: I hadn't. That was my first year. He signed here 565 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine originally, and I started in 566 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, so it was my first experience doing a 567 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday night players show. Antonio Smith was the first player 568 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: that I got to do that with. And I was 569 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: you and as Drew, I was always in tears laughing 570 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: so hard yeah. I mean he we just we went 571 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: every we talked about him. What was he? What did 572 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: he do at? Was it not steak in ship? He 573 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: was a cook at the cook at. He had a 574 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: he had a ranch with horses. So I just casually 575 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: asked him what the name of his horse was and 576 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: he said, that's not suitable for radio, and oh gosh, 577 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: what did you possibly have named your horse? And during 578 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: the break he he whispered into my ear and I 579 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: just about died laughing. You ever meet me and you 580 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: want to know, I'll tell you what it is. But 581 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: he was with his predictions. He was also tonstr damas right. 582 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: He gave lots of great predictions. It was fun when 583 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: he came back to for that second. I was super 584 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: I got a chance. I got a chance at that point, 585 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: and I a little bit. I remember his very first practice. 586 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: I told a story in two thousand and nine, his 587 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: very first practice. I was like, Oh my god, they're 588 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: gonna be issues. He and Bill Colard knows to nose 589 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and he is losing it. He just signed him to 590 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: big contract and all of a sudden there nos I'm like, 591 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: I looked at my buddy and I was like, oh, 592 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: this could be bad, and he ended up being fantastic. 593 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: He was absolutely fantastic. K from the Cardinals after playing 594 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. He was he was so good and 595 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: another guy that played in a Super Bowl before he 596 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: came here. He should eventually go to the Hall of Fame. 597 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: And he was one of my favorites down on the 598 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: sidelines because he would stand in front of the net 599 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: and then we would just talk about the situation going 600 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: on during the game. He was my favorite. He's from 601 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: my neck of the woods out and um and he's 602 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: from East Bernard. I'm from Richard Rosenberg. I'm surprised take 603 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: him waiting. I just like I knew he was going 604 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: Cody when you like, I better take I'm not getting 605 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: Letler that sideline stuff because you're down there all twenty games, 606 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: including the preseason. I'm just down there for the four 607 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: preseason doing the TV stuff. But after I interviewed, I'm 608 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: not gonna say who the player was. After I interviewed 609 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: a player I think it was two years ago, in 610 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: one of the the in game segments, walk away and 611 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: he's he's right there and he kind of sidles up 612 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: next to me and he's got his helmet on he 613 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: just said out of the side of his mouth. He's like, 614 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: did he say anything intelligible? It's just great to hear, 615 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: you know. He's he was just always We went to 616 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: we went to Oakland and I think it was it 617 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen, went to Oakland. Yeah, and I was 618 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: just starting to kind of get to know him a 619 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: little bit. It was the first trip back, and so 620 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: I started. I asked him just about punting in Oakland. 621 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: He went into this ten minute die tribe about punting 622 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: in every stadium in the AFC. It was amazing. He 623 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: would talk about at night in this corner, Hey, in 624 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: this corner, in this stadium, it does this. I was like, 625 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: oh my god. He like he had it down to 626 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: the science. And I was like, that's it. Blew me away. 627 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: And so he became that guy in his sidelines say 628 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: he would come over and go, hey, how many time 629 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: outs we got? Hey? What what what's replay? Saying hey, 630 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Hey? We just throw it there? 631 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: Like he was into the game and would talk to him. 632 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: It was really it was cool to get to know him. 633 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: Shane Luck was a special dude. Okay, third round, ye, 634 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of running out of time, so 635 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: we can either do two fast or one. We'll go. 636 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 1: We'll just finish on this. Third round. Okay, this is it, 637 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: This is my last. I was debating between two players 638 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: that were here around the same time. I think I'm 639 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna go Wade Smith twenty ten, just because the fact that, 640 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, we've really gotten to know him. I feel 641 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: like I've gotten to know him more since retirement than 642 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: when he was here because he was sort of banged 643 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: up that twenty thirteen year. Um, in twenty fourteen he 644 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: was actually he was here, I got to know him. 645 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: But um, he's just so smart and he just knows 646 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: the game so well. Player for the Texas, and I 647 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, when you when when your offensive line 648 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: isn't doing so well, which was the case the last 649 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: few years, you really miss guys like that that are 650 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: stalwarts in the middle. So I'm gonna go Wade Smith. 651 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: I love hearing him on the radio. Has been on 652 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: the radio more and more these days. So I'm gonna 653 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: go Wade Smith. That's very good. Drew. Third round, oh man, 654 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: this is tough, but I'm gonna go with Why don't 655 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: we go with Cecil? Basically because of what it's kind 656 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: of like the same long, same lines as Weight. Since 657 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: he's retired, we've got to know him better and I 658 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: just enjoy having a man, enjoy talking with him. So 659 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: it's been fun. Honorable mention, though, Seth Payne, dude, I 660 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: haven't picked yet. Joel Dreeson. I Drew always does he 661 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: always he takes everybody's picks. He just he just puts 662 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: his damp on. He just took my final two picks. 663 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: Don't unwrap everybody's gifts, as Mark Mark VanderMeer says, us 664 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: everybody's gifts. I was gonna pick. I was gonna pick 665 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Seth Payne and pander a little bit because I'm with him. 666 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: I said he was honorable mention. I couldn't get him in. Yeah, 667 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: I get Seth. I get set he always and I 668 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: could tell Seth that story was last. I know I 669 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't should always make him. He always does this. Like 670 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: those are the two guys I'm thinking of, are Seth 671 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Payne and Joel Dreeson. I'm like, I'm always Seth next 672 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: week in the morning because Sean's on his honeymoon, even 673 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: though he's not going to Italy. To David Anderson, well, David. Oh, yeah, 674 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: he was a draft he was uh, he was drafted here, 675 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: so I could he would have he would have been 676 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: my first pick. So pretty good. Jonathan Joseph, Matscha Waite 677 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: Smith for Deepe Sean Cody Antonio Smith and Cecil's shorts 678 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: and no undrafteds for Drew because he didn't play the 679 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: game well. And for me Tyra Matthew, Shane Leckler and 680 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: of course Sports Radio six Tens star Ivy leaguer Seth Payne. 681 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: Nice job. Appreciate that was definitely fun. But Dag, I'm 682 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: Drew stealing my picks man. And yes, I will be 683 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: almost set next week six to ten in the morning 684 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: Shontell's honeymoon, So I'm looking forward to that so I 685 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: could tell Seth obviously the story that I drafted him. Okay, 686 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: we get back. Lots of things happened throughout the league 687 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: and hit a few of them as we go around 688 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. On Texas All Access, Nick, we got one 689 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: final segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. 690 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris. Hopefully you appreciate that Wednesday 691 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: night draft, your favorite non drafted Houston Texan we had 692 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: on nine of them try to throw in like three 693 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: or four. I really liked Jeueldryes and that was another 694 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: one that I would I would have thought about for sure. 695 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Joel is one of my favorites. He will always be 696 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: one of my favorites. I love it when he comes 697 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: back for alumni weekend to see him and his family. 698 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: And he used to bring his at the time newborn baby. 699 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Two our radio shows when he used to do him 700 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: with us with being Sean Peergast and had a chance 701 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: to beat that young man who's now nine maybe ten. 702 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing how time has flown. But those are some 703 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: of ours. I'm sure you can. You've got your own 704 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: hit me up at your hair's football if you want 705 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: to shoot me a few of the names that you had. 706 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's go around the NFL and hit on 707 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: a few cop topics that are top of mind right 708 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: now for your Houston Texans in particular free agency and 709 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: one free agent in particular. I know a lot of 710 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: people in this town have asked me about, They've asked 711 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: each other about. There's been talk on sports radio, and 712 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: that's Chris Harris Junior in rapport NFL Network said there 713 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: are a few team's interested in Chris Harrison that he's 714 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 1: going to get paid. Here's what he had to say. 715 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: And note there's one team missing that a lot of 716 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: people who have thought would be in this mix. Chris 717 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Harris is going to have a real and legitimate market. 718 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: Colleague James Palmer mentioned the Cowboys as a possibilities. They 719 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: say likely goodbye to Byron Jones, the Raiders in the market. 720 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: There's gonna be several teams, the Jets, possibly several teams 721 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: looking for corners. And it's not a really deep corner market. 722 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: So Chris Harris is gonna get paid. Of course, the 723 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: name you did not hear there the Houston Texans. And 724 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a surprise. A couple of things. 725 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Number one, Chris Harris is thirty one, and that last pit, 726 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: that last little pitch right there for me and Rappaport. 727 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna get paid. And I just have a hard 728 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: time paying a thirty one, thirty two year old corner 729 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: a lot of money that he's gonna get from some teams. Look, 730 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I don't even know where the Cowboys are 731 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna get that green Now, obviously they're gonna save not 732 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: having to pay Byron Jones. If they don't have to 733 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: pay Byron Jones, they still gotta pay Dak Well they're 734 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna do with that. So I don't know. It's hard 735 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: to kind of figure out where he's gonna go. I 736 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: think Chris Sherriffs Junior ends up back with the Broncos 737 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: in some ways, some shape, some form, with some reconfigured contract. 738 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: But there's there's a market. You heard the teams, you 739 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: didn't hear the Texans in there. That's not too much 740 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: of a surprise. Now, the last couple of days, Mark 741 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about what's going on in Jacksonville. 742 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: A J boy a traded yesterday for a fourth rounder. 743 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: I had some people that texted me afterwards like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? 744 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Why why couldn't we got an AJ back there? AJ 745 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: didn't play extremely well twenty nineteen. He didn't play well 746 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: at all, So I was not surprised. Now, was it 747 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: a one year blip? Maybe, but he's twenty nine. Broncos 748 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: gave up a fourth they're gonna take on two non 749 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: guaranteed years in that contract. Probably pretty good move for 750 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos. But the Jaguars making some move and the 751 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: thought is there or maybe more Jannika Gockway more likely 752 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: about going back. There's been some talks rumors about Clay's 753 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: Campbell and Brandon Linder, two key figures on the offensive 754 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: and defensive line. What about Nick Foles. Well, Mike care 755 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: follow put a little bit more context to what's going 756 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: on with Nick Foles and the Jaguars because we had heard, oh, 757 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: they're shopping him, and I said, not exactly. People have 758 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: already called the Jaguars from my understanding, and really the 759 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: question here, and the one that I really want to 760 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: clarify for some folks, is that the Jaguars are not 761 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: shopping Nick Foles. So yeah, if they come with the 762 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: right compensation, I believe that there is a strong possibility 763 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: that we can see Nick Foles moved in the coming weeks. 764 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: The fact that teams are calling down at Jacksonville to 765 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: investigate the Nick Foles situation is it's very very intriguing 766 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: to me because you know what his contractual situation is. 767 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: You know exactly what that is. Now, I go back 768 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen, seventeen, twenty seventeen. Now it's not allowed 769 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL to buy a draft pick. It's not allowed. 770 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: It's not allowed to CBA at the time, I remember 771 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: bringing that up and written when Brock Oswather was traded 772 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns, because that's the way it appeared, 773 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: was that the Browns basically by taking on Brock's contract, 774 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: essentially paid for the Texans second rounder because the Texans 775 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: were sending Brock and a second rounder, So the Browns 776 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: were taking on and they could at the time, they 777 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: could take on that salary cap burden, so they essentially 778 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: bought a second rounder. In essence, It's not allowed technically, 779 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: but in essence, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 780 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: team thinking the same way with Nick foles contract as 781 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: the Browns did with Brock Oswather's contract. So I'm not 782 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: totally surprised that there is some action on this, but 783 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: all that Jacksonville is probably gonna have to move Foles 784 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: and a draft pick, and some team will do the 785 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: exact same thing that the Browns did a few years ago, 786 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: and getting that second rounder from the Texans essentially paying 787 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, basically paying the Jaguars to take Nick Foles 788 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: off their hands, and in turn they get a draft pick. 789 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: That's what that feels like. That's what it feels like. Now. 790 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Nick Foles much better player than Brock Oswader, much better player. 791 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know that there is a team sitting 792 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: out there that needs a quarterback going. We think Nick 793 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: is our starting quarterback. Answer. That could be wrong. I 794 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: could absolutely be wrong. But if he wasn't gonna start 795 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, I'm not sure where he could start around 796 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: the league with all the quarterbacks that could potentially be 797 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: out there. Now, I present this to you, Would you 798 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: rather have Nick Foles or would you rather have Jamis Winston? 799 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: Something to think about now. In Indianapolis, there's been a 800 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: lot of talk about whether you'd want Philip Rivers or 801 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady over Jacoby Brissette. Well, one prominent Indianapolis colt says, no, 802 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: I want Jacobe Brissette. Here's Darius Leonard talking about what 803 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: the cult signal caller Jacoby Brissette brings to that organization. Oh, 804 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: I believe that Jacoby and Jacoby is a is a 805 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback. And he showed that earlier in the 806 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: season when he had everyone healthy. You know what I mean? 807 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: You look at it in those quarterback Yeah, your receivers 808 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: go down. I mean, of course you're your numbers would 809 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: go down. But when he had everybody, I mean he 810 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: went five and two. You can look at any other quarterback, 811 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, Tom Bragie putting this year, he didn't 812 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: he didn't have to grong. He didn't have the big 813 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: town receivers this year. So these numbers went out. So 814 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people don't give him enough 815 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: credit to what type of quarterback he really is. I mean, 816 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: everybody see the numbers that he put up in a 817 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: D season, but they don't see what numbers he did 818 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: with the receivers that he did. And I don't feel 819 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: like that the NFL and in the people outside think 820 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: that they don't hear enough. Now, listen to that last 821 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: part reminded me of something. I was racking my brain 822 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: for it, and then I remember, oh yeah, on Tuesday 823 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: of last week when we are at the combine, I 824 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: listened to Colts GM Chris Ballot up the podium and 825 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: there was at one point where he sort of interjected 826 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: in between questions, said, look, I think there's sort of 827 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: a misnomer out there about Jacobe. This guy, he's a 828 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: good quarterback. We need to see more. But this guy's 829 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: done some good things. And then he went on to 830 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: say about the injuries that they suffered, the injury he suffered. 831 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know if the Colts are fully on 832 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: board with everybody else's plan that they need a new quarterback. No. 833 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's just the missive from the Colts to say, hey, look, 834 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: Jacoby has done some good things. We're not gonna bash him, 835 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: but we are going to look for a player to 836 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: compete for that particular spot. The way it sounds just 837 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: listening to Darius, listening to Ballard, is that they will 838 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: look for a young quarterback, a rookie quarterback that's gonna 839 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: push Jacoby and then when it's time, that quarterback steps 840 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: in a where you go. That could be wrong, but 841 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: that just seems to have that feel. Now. Could it 842 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: be Philip Rivers step right in? Sure? But I just 843 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: don't know. Considering how they talked about Jacobe, maybe that's 844 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: the way they go keep a Brissette draft, a rookie, 845 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Brissette starts, rookie takes over away you go. Maybe that's 846 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: the way they go about it. But interesting stuff going on, 847 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: of course in Indianapolis and over the next couple of 848 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: weeks as the twenty nineteen league year ends in twenty 849 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: twenty begins. Oh, it's going to be exciting, there's no 850 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: question about that. Appreciate you guys listening. We will see 851 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: you tomorrow and as always, go Texas.