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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to a spoiler edition of Thor, Love

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Speaker 1: and Thunder. The movie review. I am your host movie Mike.

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Speaker 1: I like doing these because I get to talk freely,

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Speaker 1: because if you're here, that means you've seen Thor, Love

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Speaker 1: and Love and Thunder, maybe you just want to get

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Speaker 1: all the details without having to go and see the movie.

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Speaker 1: Either way, we're going to get right into it. The

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Speaker 1: most interesting thing I didn't get to talk about in

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Speaker 1: by Natalie Portman, got cancer in this movie, and that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how they kicked it off. I didn't particularly

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Speaker 1: were trying to add some emotional value here taking on

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Speaker 1: something so serious, and I think a lot of times

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Speaker 1: I go to Marvel movies for a little bit of escapism.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to think about real problems, all the

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Speaker 1: real things that usually face our fictional, hyper fictional crazy

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Speaker 1: things you'd never encounter in your real life. And then

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Speaker 1: they gave Jane a real life, hardcore problem. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I wouldn't have given her such a serious disease

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Speaker 1: it caused her to die, even though she did die

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Speaker 1: I was just happy that she was back in this

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Speaker 1: saddest way. Aside from that, and the intro of the

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Speaker 1: movie feeling a little bit rushed to get through all

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Speaker 1: those things, to get through the diagnosis, to get her

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Speaker 1: becoming mighty Thor, and it really not finding its footing

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Speaker 1: until towards the end of the first act beginning of

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Speaker 1: the second act. That's kind of where Thor lost me

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And then you get to them having

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Speaker 1: this great villain now Gore the god Butcher, And the

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Speaker 1: I didn't see a whole lot of him killing people.

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Speaker 1: You get it a little bit there in that first

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Speaker 1: fight scene where he comes to New Aascard and is,

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Speaker 1: you know, unleashing all his monsters, but you never really

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Speaker 1: It just took a little bit out of the whole

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Speaker 1: Except for the fact that Thora was able to finally

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Speaker 1: Back to Thor. They did mention at the end of

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Speaker 1: You get to see Thor through fatherhood, so it's a

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Speaker 1: Phase four will end later this year with a Black Panther,

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Speaker 1: So once that movie comes out, I'll do my entire

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Speaker 1: ranking and break down Phase four, which has probably had

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Speaker 1: the most criticism so far, but I think it's just

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Speaker 1: us getting used to what Marvel is going to become. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: That is the spoiler review of four. Love and Thunder

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Speaker 1: come back on next week's episode. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: more things Marvel to discuss. I got to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Black Panther trailer. You got to talk about all

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Speaker 1: the new movies they announced, I mean, not one, but

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Speaker 1: two Avengers movies, Daredevil's coming back, there's yet another attempt

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Speaker 1: at the Fantastic four, which could be glorious. There could

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Speaker 1: be another disaster. So I hope to talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week. Until then, later