1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Let's give this. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome inside Final Hour tonight the Jason Smith Show 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: with my bes friend Mike Harmon. And his name is 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: John c That is not John Cena. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: That is not the John Cena. 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: The Battle, the Final Battle coming up against Goonter later 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: on this week. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Hi Carol, We're John Cena. Uh. The NBA Final four 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: E Cup teams are set. Your overwhelming favorite, the New 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: York Knicks, also a favorite, the thunder He Orlando Magic, 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: and the San Antonio Spurs. The final four of the 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: E Cup is set. The Knicks the only team to 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: make to the quarterfinals all three years. Here, they are 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: two steps away from what would be every bit the 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: equal to winning the NBA title, the Larry O'Brien Trophy. 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Joining us now on the Hotline for all the big 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: news in the NBA, including what's going on with the 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: honest Fox Sports one NBA insider extraordinaire. Check out the 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: On the Ball podcast. He is on Twitter at Rick Buker. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: It is Rick Buker. What's happening? Man? How are you? 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: I am? I'm better than the Lakers right now. Let's 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: put it that way. 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: You have NBA cup fever? Rick, I could tell you 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: have a cup fever. 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: You know what's funny is it's there's something about like 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: the advertising by uh some by broadcasters, but by everybody. Hey, hey, 34 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: you got a chance to go to Vegas. I'm like, 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: these are NBA players. They don't really need I mean, 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: Vegas is nice, but they don't need Vegas to have 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: a good time. 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: So this is not. 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: We're not talking to middle you know, We're not. 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 5: Talking to Joe Schmo in Lincoln, Nebraska. 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, hey, you know, you win this tractor poll, 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: You're going to Vegas. 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: And Joe CLO's gonna be really excited about that. 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: Daron Fox is like, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that'll be fun. 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: I think the fun The most interesting thing was Ruey 46 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: Hatsumura talking about like what he was gonna do with 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: the five hundred k. 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: And one of the options was I was just going 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 5: to put it. 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: All on black, and then I got nervous. That to me, 51 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: that that illustrates to me the difference between lifestyles of 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: an NBA player and just about anybody else. 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want an extra five hundred K. 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: And I thought, you know what, let me roll the 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: dice on it. Let me just put it on black. 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: Can we do the show, Rick, that we just roll 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: guys straight into the postgame show, into the casino. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: You lure them towards the tables. What do you think 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: you want in sure? 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: I'm there. 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm there now tonight to talk about Cup action here. Uh, 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: it really is. I was not surprised at the start 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the Spurs had this season, because I knew it sometime 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: this year Wenby was going to be the best player 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: in the NBA. But it really shocks me. He's been 66 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: out and the Spurs have been just as good and 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: they just roll the Lakers tonight, Rick, Like, this is 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a team. Their supporting cast is terrific. They have young 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: stars everywhere. I mean, the Wenby era is coming. If 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: he can stay healthy and get back but and this 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: is impressive what they're doing. 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. And I but I think a big 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: part of it is with web Ben Yama. There's so 74 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: there for you know, the last couple of years now, 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: when you prepared for the San Antonio Spurs, you prepared 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: to face Victor Wembnyama and all that he uh, he 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: puts in front of you, and then you take him 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: out of the equation. It's like, what are we preparing for? 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: I mean some of these guys, you just say, opposing 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: teams haven't seen a whole lot of and certainly hasn't 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: seen them playing in primary roles, and so. 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: In the regular season that can. 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: Be a real challenge. 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: And then as you point out, like there is talent. 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: There and as for tonight, this is just this is 86 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 4: the worst possible matchup that you could ask for with 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: the Lakers, the Lakers, and it's and it and it, 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: and it pointed up every single reason why to think 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: that the Lakers, no matter what lou or Austin Reeves 90 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: are doing, or they simply defensively, they can't contend with 91 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: the better teams in the league. Everybody is going to 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: push the pace. Everybody's going to say, you know what, Luca, 93 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: you score as much as you want. We're going to 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: try to stay home on everybody and limit everybody else. 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: And the other thirty secret is Lebron James coming back 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 4: now means less time for Marcus Smart, who's going to 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: help you Defensively, it diminishes the role that ruly Hatchamura 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: can play, and it takes the ball out of Austin 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: Reeves hands to a degree. And so it's weird to say, 100 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: but unless Lebron James there was moments in the game 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: where defensively he got after it or he played with 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 4: great energy and transition like that, Lebron James can still 103 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: help this team. But Lebron James just kind of being 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: out there is not it's taking away something. Really, this 105 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: is the transition that he has to make. He's a 106 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: role player now on this team. It sounds weird to say, 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: but he's he's a role player on this team and role. 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: Players have to play with energy and if he doesn't. 109 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: Do that, then, as as strange as it may. 110 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: Sound, I don't know that they're better with Lebron James 111 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: on the floor. 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: Wow. 113 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: I could see coming through the microphone on that. Wow. 114 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: I mean. 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: It's it's I mean, this is I think this is 116 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: why Rich Paul said what he said about where this 117 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: team is. And particularly what I found interesting was Rich 118 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: Paul was saying, they're the way they play offensively, I 119 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: don't think they can get to the Western Conference finals. 120 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 5: And I'm like, offensively, what are you talking about? 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: Offensively? Defense is the problem with this team. But if 122 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: you point to the office, then you're pointing to Lukadancis, 123 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: and you're pointing to and you're pointing to Austin Reeves 124 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 4: and a team that is asking Lebron James to be 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: a complimentary player offensively. Basically, Rich Paul is saying, you 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: know what, when when Lebron James was the straw stirring 127 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: the drink. Not that that I think he's suggesting that 128 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: Lebron should still be the primary playmaker on this team, 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: but I think he's basically saying, hey, you know what, 130 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: we were contenders when when Lebron was the main guy. 131 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: This Lukadocic thing not quite as good, probably not going to. 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Get you as far. 133 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: It's funny to throw that out the Rich Paul. 134 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: Other part of it that I found interesting Rick was 135 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: he goes they was asked directly, is Lebron going to 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: finish the season with the Lakers? 137 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: He said, where's he going to go? Where would you 138 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: send him? And what would you get back in return? 139 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't I don't know that you. I 140 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: mean with the salary that he's making, I just I 141 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: don't know who, and the oxygen that he takes up 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: in the room, where are you going to send him 143 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: for the money that Lebron is making and the pieces 144 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: that you would have to give up. I don't know 145 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: that place. And certainly there's not a contender that is 146 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: looking at what they would have to give up just 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: in salary in order to get a Lebron. It doesn't 148 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: make a whole lot of sense. What I found again, 149 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: what I found most interesting is the way Rich Paul 150 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: framed it as like Lebron's not going anywhere, as if 151 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: Lebron has decided I don't want to go anywhere. It's 152 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 4: just like there was a time where Lebron James was 153 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: that powerful. I would say this, if the Lakers could 154 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: find someplace to send him, I think they would. It's 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: just and he doesn't have a no trade so this 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: really isn't up to Lebron James. It's just the reality. 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: At this stage, there's not a place for Lebron James 158 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: to go stick. 159 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: The Cavaliers are a middle of the pack team. He 160 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: could go home and finish, and he could spin it like, hey, 161 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm going home to finish. He can go back to 162 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland in the path of least resistance through the Eastern Conference. 163 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: I think that Lebron is smart enough to know that 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: he has a pretty strong legacy in Cleveland and going 165 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: back there again for what they'd have to give up financially. 166 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 5: This is Look, Look, the reality. 167 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: Is Lebron James just isn't the same player now that 168 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: Father Time isn't, you know, just catching up with them. 169 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 4: Father Time has got his arm around Lebron's neck and saying, brother, 170 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: it's been a good run, but I think it's time 171 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: that you come with me. Now. That's where we are. 172 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: That's where we are. He's still smart enough, he's still 173 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: smart enough and savvy enough that he can get numbers 174 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: and make it look like he's the same impact player, 175 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: but he's simply he's not at this stage. And so 176 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: for whatever the East is, and I think you're right, 177 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: like the East is very much up for grabs. 178 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 5: But. 179 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,239 Speaker 4: Again, Cleveland's struggling the way they are. Orlando and Detroit 180 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: are I would say, better versions of the San Antonio Spurs. 181 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 4: So I don't know that Lebron is going to go 182 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: back there and do anything with Cleveland that would change 183 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: the direction of this. I said it on my podcast 184 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: this week that that Lebron and Chris Paul really find 185 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: themselves in a very similar place. The Banana boat crew 186 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: is once again doing things together, which is getting ready 187 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: to ride off in a sunset. 188 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Rick, Let's go to a guy who's still in the 189 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: prime of his career, hotly tested. Now all the chirping 190 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: going around, that's Giannis and Tennekopo out for a couple 191 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: of weeks with the injury. I can't expect to see 192 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: him for another couple of weeks. But how do you 193 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 3: think this all plays out as we get closer towards 194 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: the dead Lakers. That's how you make that money work, Rick. 195 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, trying to sell Lebron James on broatburst and 196 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: beer in Milwaukee is that the only Yeah? I mean 197 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: again again, Financially numbers wise, obviously, Janni's has a lot more, 198 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 4: has a lot more value. I Yannis has to decide 199 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 4: what he wants to do. And I think that the 200 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: reason that we're getting so many mixed signals out of Milwaukee, 201 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: based on having talked to people that were there previously 202 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: and and and are there now, is it's not really 203 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: clear what Yannis wants. He's obviously up for an extension, 204 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: and I do think that he's torn because he he did, 205 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: you know, he raised a family in Milwaukee. I do 206 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: think that he is very much attached to that city. 207 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: But he's also looking at am I going to be 208 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: able to contend for a title again anytime soon staying here? 209 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 4: And so he's looking around, and I think that's why 210 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: we get these mixed you know, these mixed reports not 211 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: just from from reporters and sources, but literally doc rivers 212 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: saying he's never asked to be traded. And then we 213 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: get a report that he's talked to his teammates and said, 214 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: you know, ignore the the trade talks, and Kyle Kuzma 215 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: comes out and says, yeah, we never had. He's never 216 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: talked to us about that, one way or the other. 217 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: And so I think a big part of the confusion 218 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: is is that there is confusion on yanis his part 219 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 4: in terms of what he really wants to do and 220 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: kind of going back and forth or giving people mixed 221 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: signals in terms of where his intentions lie. So for 222 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: me to tell you how I think this is going 223 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: to end up, I've always felt push comes to shove 224 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: that he's going to stay in Milwaukee. But again, you know, 225 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: he could reach a point where the Milwaukee Bucks say, hey, look, 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: this is the timeline we have. We're ready to move 227 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: on because we can get a boat load for you, 228 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: and maybe they come to an agreement that it's best 229 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 4: that that Giannisco pursue another championship someplace else. I think 230 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: that's what it would Ultimately it would take is for 231 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: the two sides to sit down and say it would 232 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: be in our and the best interest to both of 233 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: us if we if we moved on. But I don't 234 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 4: think we're there yet. 235 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: All right. Lastly, Rick, you talk about contending for a championship. 236 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: This is what it looked like when the Warriors rolled 237 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: through everybody on the way to seventy three wins. What 238 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: it looked like for the Bulls when they rolled their 239 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: way to seventy two. Oklahoma City just doesn't even seem 240 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: like they need to try. Guys don't need to play 241 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. They tie the seventy three win Warriors with 242 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: a twenty four to one start. I mean, at this point, 243 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: if you told me they would finish seventy eight and four, 244 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I would say sure, because it seems like they could 245 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: do it without really trying. It's not like they're saying, hey, 246 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: every game is tough, we want to whatevery game. It's 247 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: like they're just out everything everybody right now. 248 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: They are, But here's the danger in doing whatever they're doing. 249 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: And the Warriors seventy three and nine team is a 250 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: cautionary tale because I know that as that team was winning, 251 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: there was people inside the organization saying, yeah, you know what, 252 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: we're winning and we're blowing people out, but we're are 253 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: Our quality of play, the way that we're playing is slipping, 254 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: and when we get to the postseason, the way we're 255 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: playing and beating people in the regular season is may 256 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: not be good enough, and indeed it ultimately costs them. 257 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: There was some other things that went awry, but bottom 258 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: line is they weren't able to get the deal done. 259 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that Oklahoma City is going to 260 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: face the same fate. But that is the danger in 261 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: that when you're just when you have so much depth 262 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: and you're so young and. 263 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: You know you can win even when you're not completely healthy. 264 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: When you have that kind of advantage, you can end 265 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 4: up developing bad habits or thinking that you're actually playing 266 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: better than you are. And there's still a Denver Nuggets 267 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: team out there that I think is a is a 268 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: worthy opponent that in a seven game series is capable 269 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: of beating Oklahoma City, And so they have to have 270 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: it in their minds that we're not trying to win, 271 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: you know, have them set the record for most wins 272 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: in the regular season. We're trying to gauge our Are 273 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: we good enough when we play to take care of 274 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: business when we get to the playoffs? Is this is 275 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: the level of play good enough? And if it's not, 276 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: then they need to focus on that. So I don't 277 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: think it's a FATA complete, but I also think it's 278 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's no mirage that they are something 279 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: teams the way that they are because they are legitimately 280 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: that good and that dominant. 281 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick 282 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Bucker f S one insider extraordinarily on the Ball Podcast, 283 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: The Knicks, Well, we'll get to the Rick. The Knicks 284 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: have figured out all their early season issues. Now everything 285 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: is fine, Everything is good. All I. 286 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: All I know is I want a replica of that 287 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: Emirates Cup in the studio when they take it. 288 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: All okay, Yeah, we are going to call you when 289 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: when we count down to zero on the clock when 290 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: the Knicks beat the thunder one twenty eight to ninety 291 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: seven to win the E Cup. We'll call you as 292 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: the clock is ticking towards zero. 293 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'll uh. 294 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't worry. 295 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: About having my phone on mute if that happened. 296 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: What Jrick doing sleeping? 297 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: He's done? See you, buddy. We'll talk to you next week, buddy. 298 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: All right, Great stuff from Rith Buker. Yeah, yeah, I 299 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: don't want to chicks the Cup. That's fine, that's fine. 300 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: Exit up out of Fresco Exit Swelling Dome. Great stuff there, 301 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Lebron James Lakers role player. We got more NBA, We 302 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: got a big story from tonight coming up next. 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But you know, tonight was the thirty for 323 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: thirty on Stu Scott on ESPN Stuke Scott's life career, 324 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: and it's got a lot of attention the last few 325 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: days and and and people are just starting to realize 326 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: just how tough a time he had at ESPN and 327 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: trying to cut through as a as a talent, and 328 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: you're seeing some stories there that you know, you had 329 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of suits that didn't really get his act 330 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: and what he was trying to do, and it was 331 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: really hard for him. And you know, early in the show, 332 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: I told, look, I worked with Stu when he first 333 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: got to ESPN on Sports Night, the ESPN two Flag 334 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Show that was all about all these crazy sports we 335 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: covered and uh, you know, the first like year or 336 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: so whatever it was when he was there, we worked 337 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: together every day and and I told you that, you 338 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: know that the you know, one thing to say about 339 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Stu Scott that people don't realize is that this is 340 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties and he was ahead of his 341 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: time when it came to being a personality and he 342 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: is is There's a lot of people who owe their 343 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: career being able to break through because Stu Scott broke 344 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: through for everybody else. You know, the tough times he 345 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: went through, Uh weren't weren't great, you know, it was 346 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: he was you know, he's he's in there ESPN and 347 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: a in the mid nineties African American host hosting a 348 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: big flagship show on ESPN two, and he had to 349 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: deal with a lot of stuff, a lot of blowback 350 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: at ESPN who you know, people who didn't get what 351 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: he what he did. And you know, I told you 352 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: stories earlier about what it was like to work with 353 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: him in the depressions he had back then to say, Hey, 354 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: when we do sketches for the show, I want to 355 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: get a black person and a woman into the into 356 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the sketch we do. I want to be able to 357 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: spotlight them. And this is thirty years ago. He's thinking 358 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: about this, right, He's a guy ahead of his time, 359 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: but I owe this is always my my favorite story 360 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: about him, you know, and and talking with Rick Bucker 361 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: and talking basketball. You know what made me think of 362 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: it is that you know, and this is the kind 363 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: of guy stew was. You're gonna hear guys like Rich 364 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: Eyes and tell you stories about you know, and they 365 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: were closer with him, and they can tell you really 366 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: inside stories. But I'll tell you this, this is the kind 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: of guy that Stu was. So this is back when 368 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I was hosting All Night on ESPN Radio, and it 369 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: was the day of the AFC NFC Championship games, right 370 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty was coming up, and the Steelers won 371 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks once we're getting Steelers in the Seahawks, right, 372 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: So okay, great, I know what my show is gonna 373 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: be that night. It's gonna be all AFC and NFC 374 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: Championship game. It's gonna be all Super Bowl preview, all 375 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: of it. Right. Well, then what happens that night in sports, Well, 376 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: a young, enterprising NBA head coach named Sam Mitchell decides 377 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: the single guard Kobe Bryant for an entire basketball game. 378 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: And Kobe Bryant goes for eighty one points, right, biggest 379 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: point total we have seen since Will Chamberlain, A huge, 380 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: huge deal. So on the show that night, Like this 381 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: is me on ESPN, and I'm saying, boy, you know, 382 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I really I think this is the biggest This is 383 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: a bigger story than two teams going to the Super Bowl. Like, 384 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I wonder what Sports centers lead their lead story is, because, yeah, 385 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: we saw this the football games earlier in the day. 386 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: This is new, this is highlights people haven't seen. This 387 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: is eighty one points. Man, you don't see this all 388 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the time. Like, this should be the lead story. And 389 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I think Sports Center led with the football games and 390 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: they went to Kobe whatever it was, so I'm doing 391 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: this on the air, and it's that's a whole big thing. 392 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, my producer gets on and says, hey, Jase, 393 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: when we come back from break, what's up. Stu Scott's 394 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: calling in. He wants to come on the show. And 395 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, okay, sure, he goes yeah, you know, 396 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: because he hosted Sports Center tonight and he wants to 397 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: come on, and I'm going okay, And now for the 398 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: next like three minutes, what's going through my head is just, oh, man, 399 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I have picked a fight with Sports Center now and 400 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Stu is gonna be mad and awesome. And all I'm 401 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: thinking of is that, I mean this years before Pat 402 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: mcafe can say things like this executive sucks and this 403 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: guy's terrible, this guy's the worst. You know, I'm like going, oh, 404 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, what's gonna happen? Right? 405 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure there were a couple of people in the 406 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: building that could have said that. Nobody would have done 407 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: anything either. 408 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: And you know, and the other part of it is that, 409 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if Stu remembered me because 410 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: we worked together in the in the mid nineties for 411 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: a while. But then I left and I went and 412 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: this is like, you know, eight nine years later. So 413 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if he remembers me, but okay, 414 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: you know what. So he comes on and he's awesome, 415 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: and he says, oh, Jason, let me tell you the 416 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: conversations we had in the newsroom about what to lead with. 417 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: We talked about that for seven hours and it was 418 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: a phenomenal guest visit with him on the show right 419 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: all about what went into it, and we talked. Then 420 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: we got into the games and everything else, and I 421 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, that's amazing. That's amazing. Right now, 422 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: I thought here was gonna call and say, hey, man, 423 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: who are you going to question what we're doing on sport? Right? 424 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, it was a great it was 425 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: a great interview. And so I tell my my producer 426 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: after I said, wow, that was awesome. Uh, you know, well, 427 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: we'll play it back, we'll put it on the website. 428 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: All this, I go, hey, do me a favor and 429 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: tell them, uh, you know, thanks, and tell them that 430 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: thanks from uh from from me. If you're I don't 431 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: know if you remembered me, but we I worked with him, 432 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: uh at you know, a ESPN on on U on 433 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: ESPN two a long time ago. And so he sends 434 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: out the text and he goes back, he goes, well, 435 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: I got a I got a one line text back 436 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: from Stu after I emailed him and I said, I 437 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: got to TEXTI I said, Okay, what did he say? 438 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: He said, hey, Deuce, family got to take care of 439 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: their own and I was like, oh my god. So 440 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: he remembered me and he and he called him to 441 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: come on. I mean, that's that's the kind of guy 442 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: that Stu was, right. He always thought about other people 443 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: and his impact and what he could do with other people, 444 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: and not in a way where it seemed like I'm 445 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: self important. Like that's kind of who Stu Scott was. 446 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: And I get that people didn't always completely get him 447 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: as a personality back then, but that's what I mean 448 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: when I say he was ahead of his time and 449 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and if he came up now, he would be he 450 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: would be a huge, big, super duper star and of 451 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of shows everywhere. But make no mistake, he 452 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: blazed that trail for a lot of people to have 453 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: the careers they have now. And you know, just that 454 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: just to tell you that that's kind of the guy 455 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: he was. Haven't seen any of the show obviously, but 456 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you get some more stories like that, which 457 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will on the thirty for thirty. 458 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I gotta imagine over the next couple of days 459 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: even more war stories come out there, yours one. You 460 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: and I have talked to the paths right going on 461 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: our years here at Fox Sports Radio together, and you've 462 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: always spoken so fondly of Stuart Scott and that and 463 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: those interactions because you felt heard, which is something that 464 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: you know, we try to be mindful of here. Does 465 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: it always work quite so well? You know, and get 466 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: up and down the ladder, but certainly that's that's a 467 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: big part of his legacy. 468 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome, Jason Smith, 469 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Just 470 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: a bit of kind of who he was. We'll get 471 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: back into the biggest story of the day. Oh, I 472 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: thought's do it right now. Why not? We got late 473 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: breaking news tonight about Sharon Moore and what is happening 474 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: right now with the University of Michigan and Moore's situation. 475 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: He was fired earlier today after what Michigan said after 476 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: a complete investigation, he had an inappropriate relationship with a 477 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: staff member. Since then, in the ensuing hours, he was 478 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: in custody in a Washingtonaw, Michigan County jail as a 479 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: suspect in alleged assault. Police say that it was not 480 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: an random incident. He was taken into custody and there's 481 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: no ongoing threat to the community. So Charon Moore fired 482 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: as head coach by Michigan, taken into custody after an assault. 483 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: And there's all kinds of stories out there about what 484 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: this could be, and there's different opinions. There's different people 485 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: who have been quote identified as this is the woman 486 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: in question he had a relationship with, No, this is 487 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: the woman in question. What he did to get arrested 488 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: for assault, Like, there's a lot of different things out there. 489 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: There's been nothing that's been reported that is been one 490 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: consistent result. Hey, this has been put out. I assume 491 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours we will find out 492 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: more information. We'll get to what we'll get to what 493 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: it was. By this time tomorrow night, we'll have more 494 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: info on what exactly happened with Sharon Moore and what 495 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: happened with his assault, how much Michigan knew about it, 496 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: That's going to be a big part of this. And 497 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: you know they acted today to get rid of him, 498 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: but like how much they knew what was going on, 499 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: We're going to get all those details. One thing that 500 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: really what one Day has done in the sports world 501 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: is that from twenty twenty two until today, the Michigan 502 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: head coaching job is one of the top three coaching 503 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: jobs in the country, right even through the sign stealing 504 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: scandal with Harbaugh. In twenty two, Michigan had their first 505 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: great team. They won the Big Ten. They beat Ohio 506 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: State for the first time in years. The next year 507 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: they beat Ohio State again. They win the National Championship. 508 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: The next year, not a great year, but they beat 509 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State again this year a nine win team. Hey, 510 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: you bring in Bryce Underwood, you thought he was going 511 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: to be great. Wasn't quite what they thought. But Michigan 512 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: in any metric you look at the top jobs in 513 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: college football, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, these are all that 514 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: These are the teams that are up there in one day, 515 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: in one day, or really in a week. Because you 516 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about on the field and off the field, 517 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: they've gone from this is the top job in college 518 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: football too. They feel like they're back to where they 519 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: were now in the aughts, in the early teens, where 520 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't beat Ohio State. Their run of talent had 521 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: really come to an end because really the talent is 522 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: not quite there like it was the last couple of years, 523 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: and now they're riddled in scandal and they're looking for 524 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: a safe hire to come in and kind of right 525 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: the ship right back with Okay, now we're going to 526 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: Brady Hoak, and Brady Hoak didn't work out, and now 527 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: we're now we're going to Jim Harbor. Harbor for the 528 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: first few years didn't work out at all, and finally 529 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: they figured it out, maybe because Connor Stallion has helped them, 530 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: But I feel like in one day, Michigan's gone back 531 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: to where they were, where we're looking up at Ohio State. 532 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: There's a big talent gap. Now we're looking for another 533 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: head coach because we had issues with this head coach 534 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, and no, we weren't winning 535 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: as much on the field this year. Like in one day, 536 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: I feel like they've gone back almost two decades to 537 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: where they were when it was looking up at Ohio 538 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: State trying to figure out their coaching situation. 539 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: Well, but all could be done right with the right 540 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: head coaching. Higher here you clean out and this gets 541 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: some of the last vestiges of scandal and all of 542 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: that that went on with the Connor stallions. Well, however 543 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: much weight you put on it, it certainly was a 544 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: weight around the program and the university, and certainly the 545 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: subject of plenty of headlines and one liners along the 546 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: way that maybe this is the next step to go 547 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: into a new path, depending on how quickly you can 548 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: resolve the coaching situation, how much it affects what your 549 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: recruiting class has been, because clearly there's been a long 550 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: run of how much more had been so instrumental to 551 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: a lot of that part of the process. Early odds 552 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: Ready to have some fun, sure, all right? Jed Fish 553 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: is currently the favorite off of one sports book. Calin 554 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 3: de Bour second, Marcus Freeman, third, Jesse Mint four, current 555 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 3: interim head coach Biff Hoji is fifth, Lincoln Riley finds 556 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: his way in here, Joe Brady, and then I wanted 557 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: to go deep enough for this name, which is starting 558 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: to circulate and I've seen it on my timeline a bunch. 559 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: What about Brian Kelly. 560 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: No, man, what about Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin's not on 561 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: that list at all. He's not. 562 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: No, I was Lane, You got John Dan Lanning and 563 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: then it gets to Signetti and then the field at 564 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: plus six fifty Frand Brown would be showered his cigar. 565 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Fran Brown's got enough issues. Let's let him continue to build, 566 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: rebuild Syracuse. Signetti's buyouts only fifteen million. You really want 567 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: to go, go go take him from Indiana. Go bring 568 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: in Kurt Signetti. 569 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: That's what these guys that got extra giant ass novelty 570 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: checks after LSU and Penn's state and everybody fired their coaches. Signetti, 571 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: he didn't get another giant check slipped under his door 572 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: or for Christmas? 573 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: Really, man, you know the people there at the top, 574 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: And I told you earlier in the show, I think 575 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Minter is going to be the guy They kind of 576 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: need a safe hire someone who look who was their 577 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: defensive coordinated when he won the national title, was there 578 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. He's part of the sign 579 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: stealing scandal, but it's enough removed from it. Where is okay? 580 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: He can come out. Yeah, well, because he wasn't sanctioned, 581 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was you know, Sharon Moore 582 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: was in Harbor. He can come back. And he's someone 583 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: that was familiar enough with the recentness of the program. 584 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: A terrific coach. Yeah, I think he's probably the leader 585 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse because you don't know what's gonna happen now. 586 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: He's really gonna go spend it. You could go spend 587 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: a ton of money on a guy, but the whole 588 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: thing is to buy out Lincoln Riley and then give 589 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: him a contract. I think that's a little too much money. 590 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: But somebody like Caylin de Boor who where you know 591 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: every week it feels like Alabama loves them where they 592 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: can't stand him. Let's see how that next game goes 593 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: for Alabama and see how they feel about Kaylen de 594 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: Bor after it, because man, I'll tell you what I get. 595 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I get more than a little nervous because there was 596 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: a part in the middle of the season where you said, Okay, awesome, 597 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: Kaylen de boris right at his ship and everybody loves 598 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: him now. But he finishes with that third loss, squeaks 599 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: into the playoff. They lose to Oklahoma. I really wonder 600 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: if suddenly he doesn't become the odds on favor for Michigan. 601 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: I honestly think it if it comes down to that 602 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: game and Kaylen de Bor loses, yeah, I think you 603 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: got a fifty to fifty shot with him. Yeah, we 604 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: saw a shot to get him. 605 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the early odds right after this transpired, and 606 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: I saw de Bor's name was the first. Because remember 607 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: there was people after their first loss of the season 608 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: that we're looking to oust him from everything. So certainly 609 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: potential for chaos there. But yeah, I love this list. 610 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: And that's the next iteration of this. By all accounts, 611 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: there's well and excess of seven hundred thousand Michigan alums 612 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: running around. You know this is you know, for just 613 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: the price of a cup of coffee, you two can 614 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: dot dot dot. 615 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: H I thought you're gonna say there's more than seven 616 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people on this wishlist to be the Michigan 617 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: head coach. 618 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there are. 619 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you went to Michigan, don't you 620 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: you know, offer up a little bit to whatever guide 621 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: in your universe to say, hey. 622 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: I could be the head coach there. 623 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Okay, sure, sure I could all right, Hey, what I 624 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: could be? 625 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: I could get free on Philip Rivers is coming back 626 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: to the NFL. 627 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Anything is possible. 628 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: I nominate Lincoln Riley coming up next. Yeah, we'll love 629 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: more on Philip Rivers, who may actually play Sunday Plus. 630 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: As we told you earlier this week, I got a 631 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: sneaking suspicion We're gonna get a sixteen team playoff in 632 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: college football next year. We seem to be on the 633 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: doorstep of it after what was said earlier today. That's 634 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. 635 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 636 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 637 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: pm Pacific