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Speaker 4: Out the prailes. How you what? Nasty, cool and nasty.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it, Ethic Gates are right, my dog young,

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Speaker 1: not y'all, young tig, How you what? I'm chilling bro

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Speaker 1: y'all know this is a special episode for me man

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Speaker 1: or number zero because of this guy. So I'm right,

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Speaker 1: it's a huge genre to have him on the show.

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Speaker 1: We all been trapping by the Doublus this weekend, so

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Speaker 1: sting to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Defeats we left them at the career. We out here

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Speaker 1: getting to it. Yeah, boy, it's crazy, it's for real,

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Speaker 2: Like me and him early on got really cool because

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Speaker 2: you're his favorite player.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't about him wearing zero coup that was no podcast.

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Speaker 4: That's really ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want a lot of money playing with

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Speaker 4: He was locked in.

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Speaker 2: But if you know who this is, look, man Abachi,

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Speaker 2: the man who got it cracking pioneer hoops in the

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Speaker 2: NBA or style of play. They couldn't do like he did.

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Speaker 2: Gilbert Reader some gills and we appreciate you put out

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Speaker 2: the five twenty big Dogs. Man, appreciate appreciate it been

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Speaker 4: This man, why she have been doing your thing? Man?

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to kick off though with a question how

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Speaker 3: you feel about Michael Eley picking up begging good?

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Speaker 7: Is that out of pocket or what if you see

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Speaker 4: Kind of made him un coming, you know, started looking

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Speaker 2: Unless we always tart to show up talking to heat

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Speaker 2: And what better person talk to you? Because listen, you

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Speaker 7: You know it when it came to signature shoes, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm like he tripping. I always hurt. I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: I got him. I got him. I was like a ship.

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Speaker 4: He think he think I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got him. He was like, John, take Jamal,

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Speaker 1: I got him. I was like ship. I was like,

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Speaker 4: Is the way these needs work. You just got in.

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Speaker 4: I figured he was to get shooting like that. Man,

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Speaker 4: I got him. I got him. I'll never forget that. Man.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, Man, what y'all doing over Gills Ren and

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Speaker 2: Man shout out to the crew changing the game. Man, Like,

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Speaker 2: I know we do a podcast, but it's like the point, y'all,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So you know I started back in two thousand and

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Speaker 7: I jumped out of it a few times because you know,

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Speaker 7: So when I got the concept down, I met Rashad

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Speaker 4: Yeah, night man.

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Speaker 7: Bottom en, If you six five, you gotta be athletic

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he nasty. I ain't gonna like nasty. I'll be

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Speaker 1: hundred shots in the morning, things like that.

439
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 4: Does he love it like that? Or they just like

440
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 4: you pluck it?

441
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 7: You don't understand what the love is, right, you know,

442
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 7: he's he's sitting there in that mode of you know,

443
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 7: I got my friends, my girlfriend, my family, school, and

444
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 7: he thinks all of it is on the same playing field.

445
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 4: Like, nah, you're gonna have to sacrifice three the motherfucker.

446
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

447
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 4: Ain't no friends, ain't no girlfriends like.

448
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 7: That, you know, if you're trying to get to that level. Right,

449
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 7: So you know, right now, he likes it a lot.

450
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,880
Speaker 7: And I'm telling like, you probably won't love it until

451
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 7: you make it to the NBA. Something happened, nigga, whoop

452
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 7: your ass out there. You see somebody working at a

453
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 7: level you've never seen before, and it changes how you

454
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 7: look at the game. Right, So, I don't expect you

455
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 7: to be in love with it right now. Just go

456
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 7: and try to you know, practice and just have the

457
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 7: good ass habits you know to make you good.

458
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: And as a high school coach, you know what I'm saying,

459
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: You see a player like that, and as you see

460
00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: the progressive stuff other kids two daughter going to college

461
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: going crazy as well, we see somebody like that at

462
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 2: high school just like you're good now and you're not

463
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: there yet. How does it like to see somebody that like,

464
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 2: it's not untamperatived, like you got another gear you can

465
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: get to you just don't even.

466
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: Know it yet. No, It's like it's like a blank campus.

467
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, he's so talented, he got this and

468
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: got that, and it's just like if he gets this

469
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: or he works like this, there's nowhere nowhere, there's nowhere

470
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: we can say he can go. It's like Skoyt's some

471
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: limit or whatever. But like when I see him with

472
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: the height, the speed to handle the shot making, it's like, damn.

473
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: Once he gets a little stronger and he get the game,

474
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: it's like ship, we're looking at the All Star.

475
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 4: So you know how to get that fuck up there?

476
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's gonna shoot like three people sitting there like

477
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 7: man zero telling you.

478
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 9: A couple of times you said enough, Yeah that was

479
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 9: a And I tell a lot of parents.

480
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: I said, stop team and your kid.

481
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 7: If your kid got talent, stop doing that team up

482
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 7: ship hurt your children.

483
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 4: I said, high school is development for you.

484
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 7: And your child ain't about winning fucking championship.

485
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: Cause I was like, that's why you didn't see him

486
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: right to Sierra and yeah, like.

487
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 7: I've never seen a college coach come down and say, Yo,

488
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 7: how many high school championships you won?

489
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: How many AA championships you want? Oh you no, you

490
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 4: average forty?

491
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 7: I want you right, I got a bunch of people

492
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 7: that can pass ball to you and redoubt and stuff

493
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 7: like that. I'm not I'm not taking a whole scare

494
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 7: of game team. I'm looking for one or two people.

495
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 7: So I would rather you be instead of playing on

496
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 7: see your hand averaging ten. I rathery you be the

497
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 7: dude that get beat by forty but you had forty

498
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 7: because you going to.

499
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 4: You're going to be the one that says hold on,

500
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 4: hold on.

501
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: You agree with that, and you know that's why I'm

502
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: chiming in because Buffy all different. So I can talk

503
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: about this because me and him feel the same way

504
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: getting beat by forty and having forty. It Maybe that

505
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: shit is flowing in Cali and that's cool, but in Indiana,

506
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 3: bru it's gone. Coach is looking at you a little

507
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: bit different.

508
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: Bro, All right now, think about it like this. Your

509
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: team is a bunch of five stars.

510
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the dude that got nobody scored forty on

511
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 7: how it's just you had just to stop that motherfucker

512
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 7: right there. How we want forty. He's supposed to win

513
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 7: by forty. He didn't supposed to score forty on a

514
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 7: bunch of five starts. You're supposed to double him, trap him,

515
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 7: do whatever. So the fact that he scored forty, let

516
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 7: you know that he had to do it against all

517
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 7: five of you.

518
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: So it's it's making him do everything right. Your your team.

519
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 7: Is going half assed because it's just better than everybody,

520
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 7: so they not really digging down. He has to rebound,

521
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 7: he has to try to block shots here, break your

522
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 7: full court press, right, So he has to rough his

523
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 7: engine so hard just to compete with you. That's that's development.

524
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 7: He has to rub his engine so hard to compete.

525
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 7: Now when he gets with a group, it's so much easier.

526
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: Nah, I get you. I understand where you coaching. Yeah,

527
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 4: you trying to win.

528
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's why I'm gonna let the professionals speak

529
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 7: that up on the coach inside.

530
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: I get it you.

531
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 7: You you're trying to do like I'm talking about, just

532
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 7: as the parents trying to go to the next level.

533
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out how to build the tiger.

534
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 7: Because it's easy for you to turn an aggressive person down.

535
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 7: If you haven't been aggressive, it's hard to turn you out,

536
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 7: that's right, Like like somebody like Brodnie James, Right, he's

537
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 7: been at Seer Canyon, playing with all these five stars

538
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 7: and you're like, yo, why you don't shoot enough.

539
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: He's never he's never did it.

540
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 7: He's been passing, winning games, winning, taking full five shots

541
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 7: again and beating everybody by thirty.

542
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: He never had Do you think that mess with his ay?

543
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 4: You run him being that same type of way.

544
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 7: Even we got the same team, Yeah, the same team,

545
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 7: the whole but you got the York Johnson, you got

546
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 7: all these guys, you got the same group. So he

547
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 7: never had a team where it's like, Yo, you gotta go,

548
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 7: you gotta go out there and score for that the

549
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 7: hell out of you.

550
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: But playing double advocate like your kid, your son, he

551
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: has the talent to do that, Like you can see it.

552
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: It jumps off the.

553
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: Screen, Like, Okay, if you put him in a place

554
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: for other five stars, he's still gonna shine as a

555
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: five star.

556
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: It's some other kids, like they might be three.

557
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Stars when they go to a smaller school average forty

558
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: do everything. Then they go play with five stars or

559
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: other good players and they don't know how to adjust.

560
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that that happens.

561
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 4: It happens a lot, and we know of a situation

562
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: kind of like that, like the parents think they five

563
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 4: stars too.

564
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: That's yes, but it's like it's a bunch of kids

565
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: in Indy who went to school smaller schools and stuff,

566
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: and then they get to college and it's like I

567
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: don't know how to play with other good players.

568
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 4: And it's like that's a balance.

569
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 7: You got to still put that kid into a group

570
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 7: where like so like he plays by himself at this school,

571
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 7: then he plays on compon Magic.

572
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: He plays with cold thy right so and ship.

573
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 7: He's still even like yo just you you can tell

574
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 7: me fast.

575
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: But but I I like that because I can you

576
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: can sit him down and say yo ad because if

577
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 4: you if that person is never at that level when.

578
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 7: You need him to do it. He don't know what

579
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 7: it looks like. You don't know what hitting game winners

580
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 7: feel like. Right, even somebody like you know Cooper Flag,

581
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 7: Cooper Flag in the last two years probably never hit

582
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 7: a game winner, never been in a situation too, right,

583
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 7: They've been blowing everybody out. Team's been winning. You remember,

584
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 7: you have for sixteen thirteen this year. So he's never

585
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 7: really had takeover takeover, but he did, and he in

586
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 7: that ey b hold on gid run. He was bringing

587
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 7: them back from crazy.

588
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: They was down a few times, so he had a

589
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: willing back sixteen years.

590
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's why he's never coming

591
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 4: out party. He's never played. He never played seventeen year ever.

592
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: But right, so when the like, so when everybody else

593
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: is playing seventeens, he went down to sixteens. He's he's

594
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean, he's dominant.

595
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 7: But what he's saying, what I'm saying is when it

596
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 7: comes to like putting him to them game winners, he's

597
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 7: never felt the pain of missing and of being a

598
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 7: disappointment to your team or uh, you know, getting the

599
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 7: ball stolen and like my son had to go through

600
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 7: all that, right, missing the lab and the rest of

601
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 7: the teammates like, oh man, now you got to bounce back, right,

602
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 7: what you're gonna do tomorrow?

603
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: Right hitting the game winner?

604
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 7: Shit, you know, sitting there miscalculating the boy, steal it,

605
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 7: tie game, beat him at the buzzer.

606
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: Nigga, Damn, they're thrown up in the bathroom because you

607
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: let the whole school down.

608
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 7: How you're going, how you're gonna react tomorrow though, So

609
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 7: you get it. So if he had one year at

610
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 7: Mount Verb, Yeah, but what I'm saying is that you

611
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 7: still got to go through the fire. You can't go

612
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 7: to the NBA and then take your first game winner

613
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 7: lose man. You're gonna get ate up if you're not

614
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 7: built like that, right, Even like Kerry, Kerry wasn't a

615
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 7: game He didn't hit many game winners in the beginning

616
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 7: of two championships because it's blowing everybody else. So he

617
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 7: was sitting in the fourth quarter. So when Kevin Durant

618
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 7: got there, Kevin like, YO, give me that ball. They

619
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 7: haven't they was like, ship, we've never been in a

620
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 7: situation know who to get the ball to.

621
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: You gotta have some experience. You gotta have some experience.

622
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: And I y'all pros, bro, and I never go against y'all,

623
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: but this one, bro, he the best player in the country.

624
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: Sixteen No, no, the best player in the country.

625
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 7: But you can see like because of the blowouts, he's

626
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 7: never been really really battle tested. Eight players all that

627
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 7: they franchise guys and they won't take the game winner

628
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 7: because they're scary.

629
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, you put it in your mindset

630
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: to be the guy. Guy like some guys is comfortable

631
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: being number.

632
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: Two, you know.

633
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: So if you number two, a the NBA. Now you

634
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: get two hundred eighty million, that's crazy.

635
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 10: Like some people cool would be a number two. So

636
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 10: Cooper flag number two string my book, hell of a

637
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 10: number two.

638
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a franchise guy.

639
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 7: But you know you have to like like right now,

640
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 7: it's like he needs to be put in a situation

641
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 7: where he gets battled.

642
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: You don't want to go.

643
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 7: To the NBA and then you go to a locker

644
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 7: room and niggas don't like you anyway, and you do

645
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 7: something wrong.

646
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: You already know they're gonna jump down your back. If

647
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: you ain't you ain't been built.

648
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 7: The statement watch out, you're gonna you're gonna fall behind.

649
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: But you don't really get that until you and like

650
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: year three anyway, the watch out, watch out.

651
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're a rookie, it's already somebody there. You know,

652
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: somebody there is gonna tell you, hey, I got that.

653
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: And then when you're the franchise players a rookie, they

654
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: already hating on you.

655
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 11: You have you have been you Andrew I had speak

656
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 11: from us, had so it wouldn't watch out.

657
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I know they was fighting with that. God damn, you

658
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: wanted to check. It was like, who're taking this last shot.

659
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, Joe getting that, Bro. I can tell you

660
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: about jo Jo that tell Jamal now, jam he shot

661
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: a couple of them. Yeah, you're gonna get the motherfuckers.

662
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 4: Up for sure. I'm like you sweing about it, Joe, Bro.

663
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: You out of pocket. Bro. I'm like, damn, Joe, you're

664
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: gonna loud. Come get the show. Get this show propertly.

665
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: I got to ask why you're here. Man. See, we

666
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: got resurfaces injury's topic. You know what I'm saying.

667
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: We had a conversation on show about staff padding, and

668
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: people didn't like it. I saw yesterday was one of

669
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: the nastiest displays. I'm happy that that double double streak

670
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: ended because that was one of the craziest things I

671
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: have seen it a long time in basketball.

672
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: Man.

673
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: I understand that happens, but I'm so happy that streak

674
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: ended because there's no way we could glorify that that.

675
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Man, if it was that easy, everybody would have tried it.

676
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: She wasn't. She just couldn't make late the first time

677
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: lay up when you down twenty left the game, begets

678
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: the double double. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. Listen,

679
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: listen listen, there's four people on shouts at Liberty. You

680
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: already got the record, you're trying to extend it.

681
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 7: There's gonna be situations where they might come down to

682
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 7: rebound to a miss, and you're gonna miss it.

683
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: To keep it going for sure, that's just it. You

684
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

685
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 7: If I got twenty twenty trip of doubles, right doubles,

686
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 7: and I.

687
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: Need one with three seconds left.

688
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 7: I don't give what we have. I need this basket.

689
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 7: I'm going to get the basket. You can fight me after.

690
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: I know that streak is going. I ain't mad at it.

691
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at it, but I told you she

692
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: don't make don't make layups. So now you know she

693
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: getting her office rebound that do your thing.

694
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Somebody gave her the best comparison that we ever had.

695
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say his name, but he said she

696
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: was Kenneth f Reed mm hmmm, And I said, I know, yeah,

697
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: that is a great comparison.

698
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 7: She's a she's a great rebounder. She's not very gifted offensively.

699
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 7: That was her achilles heel. But this is going to

700
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 7: be the worst that we get to see of her.

701
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 7: But you know, It's just she's just a bound the defender.

702
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: Hell of a rebound killer.

703
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: That's It's just funny though, because she's trying to get

704
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: that triple, I mean double double and next triple team

705
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: around the baseline with ten left in the game, they

706
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: are sixty.

707
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: That ship was funny. Bro haters, for sure. You don't

708
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: want that record bit like you want to get the

709
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: people that broke. That's like you're getting that rebound and

710
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: sucking up the park, like, oh yeah, they was hot

711
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: that man. I got a rebound.

712
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Bobby Porters needed one rebound to get like to hit

713
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: the parlay or whatever, and I grabbed it. Man, Milwaukee

714
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: was hot. It was cussing me out and I didn't

715
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: know what was going on.

716
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: The like what the fuck day? You don't even playing

717
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: out in the way to get a stab. I had

718
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: one rebound.

719
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 12: Somebody somebody probably have me points. I was the.

720
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: Man. That is crazy. Man.

721
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: But also with that being said, with you know what

722
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, with that bit so prevalent now today's space

723
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: the sports game like that for you also, even going back,

724
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: how would you feel you would have did with n

725
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: Il Arizona.

726
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest, man, I wasn't like that. I

727
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 7: wasn't him right. I mean I was the leader scorer

728
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 7: on the team. But I played with four uh all Americans, right,

729
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 7: so you know Jason Gardner, Richard bag right like they

730
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 7: would have Jay.

731
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: Would have probably.

732
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 7: You know, I was more of a scavenger dog, right.

733
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: You know, I got n I l I was. I

734
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 7: got my money. I was selling. I was selling autographed

735
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 7: balls they signed that signed, that sign break back into

736
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 7: the locker room, still all limb.

737
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: Right. So I was getting this and I was getting

738
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: my money. I was doing well.

739
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 7: I wasn't starving at all.

740
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: This When I got drafted, I said it. I got

741
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: driving a second round.

742
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 7: Other man, I took a paint cook come to the

743
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 7: NBA man to college, said that again.

744
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: I took him. Get in trouble. I've been tripping right now.

745
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 7: I just spend all this money, want this sheep bass

746
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 7: chain and escalated when I saved money on the fake

747
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: diamond qub, No, baby, how want.

748
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: You spend on cunia trying bands? Yeah? Big, it was

749
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: Christmas you.

750
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 7: Cause you're up that ship back then, right, Dip said

751
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 7: had the whole everything was coming all the way there

752
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 7: and everybody did their initials. So everybody ship was like

753
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 7: this big so that GJ just sitting there just yeah,

754
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 7: I made it.

755
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: I remember Brand telling me about that, called it the

756
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: ice age. You said he spent two hundred and fifty

757
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: thousand on the chain. Yeah, he said, you crazy as hell.

758
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: No, that's nuts. Bro ten Grand looked just the same. Man.

759
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things I don't know is obviously

760
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: going crazy, but the games I'll be playing.

761
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: The draft. That ship was fire man. I loved your

762
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: competitive league with that man. Brandon was pissed.

763
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 7: I need the team. Sorry, man, you need some shooting.

764
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go get jeans Worthy.

765
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 4: You don't be going right shooting eight that was he said.

766
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: He said, that's right.

767
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 7: You know what's funny like when when you talk about

768
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 7: the eighties and everybody getting mad, and then you ask

769
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 7: them have you watched the game? They were like no, no,

770
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 7: you know what we got the internet now going go

771
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 7: in and popping and pop in one of them eighties games, buddy,

772
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: the flex cut, the U c l A cut, the weave,

773
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 7: start basketball.

774
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: They don't know what's doing to your step back then

775
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: when they called travel on it.

776
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: When you were saying that when you was like Grant

777
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Hill came in the league and he was doing right

778
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: to left crossovers. He's like, they've never seen that before.

779
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: And I watched that tape and how bad he was crossing,

780
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: pipping and all them. I'm like, yeah, they might have

781
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: been spooky.

782
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: That's what man. Listen.

783
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 7: Even the hand check right, the hand check was great

784
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 7: because the guards didn't score right, they're coming down full

785
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 7: court with it back to the basket, right, so it's

786
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 7: easy to hold on to him.

787
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: Right.

788
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 7: They didn't do that Isaiah Thomas because he was the

789
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 7: scoring guard Tim Hardaway. They didn't do it to u

790
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 7: Kevin Johnson.

791
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: Right.

792
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 7: When these guys came into the league and they're coming

793
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 7: to the basket, what was your hand chicken? Man, it

794
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 7: was still in Obviously you can't hand chick them up

795
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 7: with the stomach, so let me see, has a turn

796
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 7: for you to hold his side. So the fact that

797
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 7: everybody's going down heeled the hand check was irrelevant. All

798
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 7: you doing is just trying to catch up. And then

799
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 7: you did this shit. You wasn't in the league yet,

800
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: where you driving? And then they just pushing it, just sitting.

801
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 7: They were still doing that.

802
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were still doing that baby started doing that

803
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: to me. In practice, he let me go. He pushed

804
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: me right and just sitting and you see the wall rep.

805
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, yea. Then they couldn't move. They couldn't move left right. Man,

806
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 7: the eighties eighties is the year olds today. Y'all don't

807
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 7: move very well.

808
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: Left right. I would have cut y'all because it's glorious.

809
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 7: It's we're talking about a time that it was the

810
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 7: NBA seventy eight when the NBA merged, right, And they

811
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 7: don't like talking about it because it's dark ages like

812
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 7: big drug problems like it was.

813
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 4: They had to tape delay everything, make sure everything was clean.

814
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: But it was going through.

815
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 7: A real big problem in the eighties, right, just like

816
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 7: the world was right. So now you have a bunch

817
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 7: of NBA players just integrated. They got money, So what

818
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 7: do you then they're gonna do? Right, So when Magic

819
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 7: and Bird came in, Magic was the NBA's I call

820
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 7: it the NBA because ABA and NBA when they put together,

821
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 7: it's that's the NBA one league.

822
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: Now.

823
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 7: Magic Johnson was their first baby. That was the baby

824
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 7: boy of the NBA nineteen years old. He was the

825
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 7: baby boy of the NBA BRD was twenty two when

826
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 7: he came in, right, So the first child of the

827
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 7: NBA was uh magic and they held they held the

828
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 7: NBA to get there, and then Jordan just polarized it.

829
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: So you know, that's why those three are iconic. So

830
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 7: when you talk about the eighties, they think you're talking

831
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 7: about them three, right, you know like when you say, man,

832
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 7: eighties suck and we got we got Magic Bird and

833
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 7: yeah we get it out and the rest of the

834
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 7: you always having two hundred and sixteen people draft all

835
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 7: the way up into Nasty Broa.

836
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: I heard somebody said I was drafting the seventh round

837
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 4: before damn.

838
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 7: That was all the way into eighty eighty seven. Eighty seven,

839
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 7: Michael Jordan was two hundred and sixteen people drafted with him.

840
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: That's that's crazy.

841
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: A big guard too. He would have killed them away fast.

842
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: It was a bigger guard though.

843
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: They play like you now, like if you had to

844
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: say somebody like put you on the motor yourself?

845
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: Who what you said? Probably MAXI? Okay, how he just

846
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: wants to come downhill real fast? Now that's a g fers.

847
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 7: Like because it was TV then, like people don't want

848
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: to I said in the post, right, it was like

849
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 7: I did I did more post enough than I did

850
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 7: just it was either gonna post up the little guard,

851
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 7: then they have to put the big guard on me,

852
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 7: and then now I'm trying to do one full flat

853
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 7: and be.

854
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: The most drum.

855
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: And you had one thing that I've always seen that

856
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: my dad coached, and he taught it to some of

857
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: our players on the team that like, you can shoot,

858
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: he may not be as fast as quick if you

859
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: can step out a little bit in that three point line.

860
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: Now they got to guard you a little bit different.

861
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: And you was like the pioneer that shit because your

862
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: three point threat was at the volleyball line, so you

863
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: got all the space in the world.

864
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 4: They couldn't do nothing with you. Yeah, So I seen

865
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: some report.

866
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 7: It was like some Synergy report, right, and then it

867
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 7: had like I'm trying to get better, like where are

868
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: my flaws and what okay, this corner this and this,

869
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 7: and I'm like, you know, like it had this like

870
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 7: fifty six percent from here, and like what the fuck

871
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: is this? And it's like did the shot you took

872
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 7: from this is fifty six percent? So I'm sitting here

873
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 7: like three point line thirty eight back here and I'm like,

874
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there like this doesn't even make no sense.

875
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: So then I'm coming to the spot trying.

876
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 7: To figure out like all right, Then I realized the

877
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 7: guard is sitting under the three point line waiting for me.

878
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 7: There's nobody guarding me here, right. If I'm shooting the three,

879
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 7: I'm getting contested here. There's no contests, right, So this

880
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 7: is an open shot. So I started training these shots

881
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 7: right here knowing that they're going to be open. Nobody's

882
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 7: going to be back there trying to play defense. Like

883
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 7: when I came in, everybod he went under because guards

884
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 7: didn't shoot behind the screen.

885
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 4: So that's what gave me the advantage.

886
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 7: Like, like, yo, I'm not Gary Payton, dog, don't you

887
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 7: know I don't like I don't I don't have a

888
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: big man to pull to pass the ball to. So

889
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna sit there and the big men come through it,

890
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 7: and you know, I fan out and then they double

891
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 7: got a swinging, swinging, swinging, and then the last person

892
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 7: that's got the ball, he can't shoot, right, because that's

893
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 7: usually put the worst shop all away on the other side, right,

894
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 7: And that's a nigga who got all the shots.

895
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: That guy go to the corner coming to me.

896
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 7: When I did the first picking roll, big boom and

897
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: they switched out and I was like, oh ship, hey move.

898
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: I did one of those move move because like, what

899
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: are you doing?

900
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm about to take him off the

901
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 7: dribble and I was like, what are you talking about?

902
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 7: Look who I have on me. You're gonna take him

903
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 7: off the dribble. And I was like, son, maybe this

904
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 7: is why you don't play this game. Maybe this why

905
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: you got drafted thirty one year. I Q is low

906
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 7: and I'm like, what it's like you don't see the

907
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 7: guard the big man. Yeah, I've seen that, and you

908
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 7: don't think that's the past. So you want me to

909
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 7: pass on the ball?

910
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 4: Him one.

911
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 7: We don't want no place for him anyway, But you

912
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 7: want me to pass in the ball. What's gonna happen?

913
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 7: They're gonna double, We're gonna swing and swing it. Look

914
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 7: who's in the corner. We don't shoot?

915
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: Right? Is that the play we want?

916
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 6: Nah?

917
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: So you had?

918
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: So I ran it, boom, they swished it, threw it down,

919
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: Swiss swish with it, and I said break because it's like,

920
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 6: you don't know our places and you don't know the

921
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: player person now.

922
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: Ye, So later on that date did the pick and

923
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 4: they switch out again.

924
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 13: Don't Yeah, I didn't play. I was all, there's no

925
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 13: more sat that I can tell you that throw it

926
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 13: to a downal foil.

927
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah you know who?

928
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 7: Donald Foyle, God damn right, my gud said, Hell, I'm

929
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 7: not doing it down at ship.

930
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: I see. I see the look on his face. Don't

931
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: got there was a look.

932
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 7: It was just crazy because it was like like I'm

933
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 7: sitting there like.

934
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: Like we ain't never go to play for this morning.

935
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: This is what we're doing.

936
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 7: I'm glad he got fired because I would have never

937
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 7: got off the bench after that display.

938
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: And you know what's so crazy.

939
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: We've been blessed to talk to some great pros in

940
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks and just like mine set

941
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: that you guys have obviously be in guards. I know

942
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: the game probably better than anybody, but it's like your

943
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: own intuition has the cake, because yes, this coach is

944
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: professional and he's telling you what to do, but you're

945
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: just like, well, I'm telling you it's actually right, but

946
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: this is now an ego battle. It has nothing to

947
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: do about what's going on the court. It's about a

948
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: mental or personal thing. How do you overcome that a

949
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: situation where you like, I know what the fuck I'm

950
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: doing is right, but now I got to really prove

951
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: it to you or get lucky that you get fired

952
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: to get out the way I got to deal with.

953
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 7: It's it's on both sides, man, It's a give and take, right.

954
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 7: You know, we have two visions, right, you know, the

955
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 7: player has a two K vision, the coach has a

956
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 7: court side vision. So we're seeing different things, right, We

957
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 7: have two different views of it. So we both are

958
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 7: right and we both are wrong depending on what we're

959
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 7: looking at that time. So you might be saying, you know,

960
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 7: five down right, throw it to the big man, and

961
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 7: I'm watching the game, I'm seeing his menorism, like, nah,

962
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 7: that ain't it.

963
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 4: He ain't got it today. Right.

964
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 7: So the want to put me at the point is

965
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 7: you have to trust my instinct.

966
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: Right.

967
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 7: That's why you have me at the point, to trust

968
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 7: my instinct, knowing that I'm gonna do more right than

969
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do wrong. Right, So as a coach, you

970
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 7: have to give you have to give the freedom.

971
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: Just to just so they can explore.

972
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 7: So you know, like you know there's games where you

973
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 7: have to say, all right, I ain't coaching today. Let

974
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 7: me see what you got. You coach, you sub and

975
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 7: whoever you're gonna sub in. No, you gotta because you

976
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 7: see now you know why.

977
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: You know why.

978
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 7: You got to see how they think, right because you

979
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 7: know how you be subbing players in and niggas be like, yo,

980
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 7: I should be playing this, Oh you do all right, Look, hey,

981
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna coach today. I'm just gonna be watching

982
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 7: players coach themselves. And you try to get up practice.

983
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 7: You're trying to get up and like, nah, no you're not.

984
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 7: You don't get in in the regular game. You ain't

985
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 7: getting in today. They're gonna self checked themselves anyway.

986
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: Be one of them games. You know you're gonna win

987
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: by like forty. We don't got but he does that

988
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: mentality in practice some time practice. You gotta do that

989
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: in the game. Everybody, you got to you gotta read

990
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: the room.

991
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 7: You got one of those teams, got one of those teams.

992
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 4: You're playing all hollanvel everything. You know.

993
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see hardball, that's what I at right now.

994
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: They get to next up right now, harball. Every time

995
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: we plays like a top team in the state though.

996
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: So he always have like well always but the second year.

997
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: But he got a tough schedule usually at the school

998
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: we ad. I don't know if Elijah got up and down.

999
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: Maybe he got the blind or the deaf school and

1000
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: then they got to place here or.

1001
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: No, no, a little bit. So that's what I'm saying.

1002
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: Cali a little different when you and that for you

1003
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: in that four A. But it ain't not really no

1004
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: ducky he got a d one player every night.

1005
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: Oh see. That's see the problem with with the Cali

1006
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: schools is because everyone teamed up, right, you're going to

1007
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: have seven five stars on one team.

1008
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 7: These schools might not have nothing. You're gonna got four

1009
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 7: on that side. So then see Racans in the division

1010
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 7: where most of the teams ain't got no black players, right,

1011
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 7: so for the most part, they're trying to duck and

1012
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 7: forward anyway because it's like we're not equipped to play.

1013
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 7: You guys, y'all not even supposed to be in the league, right,

1014
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 7: you know, y'all done suit the teams up.

1015
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: Y'all can't be in this.

1016
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 3: Regular athlete they're supposed to be on that mount verse. Yeah,

1017
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: they schedule. Yeah, so yeah, bro, don't have that luxury.

1018
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: He ain't got an NBA player every time like when

1019
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: he was playing in high school. But he definitely for

1020
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: sure most like is playing the D one player on

1021
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: the other end, for sure.

1022
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, it's the NBA player

1023
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: every school. Yeah, section, yeah, section, That's why I say

1024
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to slight in the end. Eric and g

1025
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: Hill went to school with him. I had Coordney on

1026
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: my team.

1027
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: Robert we had Robert Vayn and right Mike Josh McRoberts.

1028
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: We can go crazy that more than what section crazy one.

1029
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1030
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: So if you got lucky enough to beat George Josh

1031
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: mc roberts and you got to get Mike Conley, see that.

1032
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 7: L A is so spread. Yeah yeah, l A so

1033
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 7: spread where you don't really you can't. Yeah, it ain't

1034
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 7: really like that. There's so many divisions though. It ain't

1035
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 7: just crazy.

1036
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: We just got four a well we got one day,

1037
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: but don't nobody really played that.

1038
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: But still even with those for the NBA players, he

1039
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: still played with D one Cowboy players on his team,

1040
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 3: colling them.

1041
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: Still they said, like eight players.

1042
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, so it's different now, in had different it's

1043
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: basketball for real, even like it's a hood school called Arlington,

1044
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: ain't the school no more. They had a dude like

1045
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Deontay vnent to Cincinnati. They beat Greg Olden and Mike Colley.

1046
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: They lost of the year. Yeah they only lost it

1047
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: the year but he them.

1048
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they was ranked twentieth in the country.

1049
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, okay, so okay, it's cool.

1050
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: You know what.

1051
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 7: Now using to me already when we I did ball up,

1052
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 7: ball Up, my dad was running the too, that's what running.

1053
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 7: And then we went to indyed not going like yeah

1054
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 7: we had an indie team. Yeah, it was jumping motherfuckers out.

1055
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 7: It was like, yeah, they can get it here. Then

1056
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 7: Michica I was like, yeah, y'all got some bouncies.

1057
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: See nap is one of the places that you'll go

1058
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: to open gym.

1059
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: It's a round nigga who just drank the fifth about

1060
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: to come hoop, but he probably had d one talent

1061
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: and his But just basketball in Indianapolis especially just mean

1062
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: too much. Like the open gyms in the city be

1063
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: different than most places. You're going there with d on

1064
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: level tal that's got off there.

1065
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 3: Eight our shift, y'all got top heavy players in Cali

1066
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: like you Russ Big, I got a lot of all stars.

1067
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 7: To for sure, pop piers like we don't. But even that,

1068
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 7: that's still spread out though, because like you know, you

1069
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 7: got you have the l A schools you get, so

1070
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 7: you got City section, Southern Section. They don't play each other.

1071
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 7: So for the most part, like unless you schedule it,

1072
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 7: like Jason Crow Junior and my son, they would never

1073
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 7: see each other.

1074
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: But because they both led, so Jason.

1075
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 7: Crow Junior as a freshman led the country or ed

1076
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 7: CALLI and scoring my son was number two, everybody's like,

1077
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 7: we want to see them play against each other, so

1078
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 7: now we have to section each other. But their team

1079
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: is better than my son's team right there, even though

1080
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 7: in their section they suck like shit, right, It's just

1081
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 7: it's all divisions, you know, it's all divisions, so it's

1082
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 7: all spread out, so it's hard for Yeah, that's tough.

1083
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 7: Like even though you know, my son him playing against

1084
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 7: Sierra kan and everybody's like, oh, he needs to be

1085
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 7: in this. It's like he does the rest of the

1086
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 7: team they won't even make the C squad at your school.

1087
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't even dribble. They they better not take the.

1088
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: Ball out, you know what I mean, Like that over

1089
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: there where like more than rebound, like Martin and Rebound.

1090
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Speaker 3: You got one of them teams over there. Your team

1091
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Speaker 3: couldn't they couldn't come to Indiana.

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Speaker 7: To the state the state, Like if it's an Indy,

1093
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 7: he's just gonna go to one of those those schools.

1094
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Speaker 4: You're not gonna be on the bottom feeding he come

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Speaker 4: to bike.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he care taking that for sure, but yeah you could.

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00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: It ain't no schools like that. There's no sad schools.

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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: And then for yeah, like we get beat by him

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00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: the Southeastern or like Fishers, they got the best they

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Speaker 1: want state and it's.

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Speaker 4: All white dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you like we're about to go playing, you're like, man,

1103
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: about to kill them. They start hooping you like a ship. Yeah,

1104
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: they play like cutting like Yo State, but they wasn't

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Speaker 1: holding the bush and they were scoring.

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Speaker 4: Like one hundred points eighty five points.

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Speaker 3: But his son got the luxury to it being trained

1108
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Speaker 3: by him too, So that's kind of yeah, it make

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Speaker 3: a difference for sure.

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Speaker 4: Sure. Man. Listen, this has been a wonderful time for us. Gil.

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Speaker 4: We've been waiting for this episode.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you Blankings man, Presidence Man, this great man

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Speaker 1: be here before we get out of here, telling people

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Speaker 1: that can buy some merchat shop.

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Speaker 4: Club five twenty dot com, Baby, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Club five twenty gils Arena. We appreciate this happening. Hey,

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Speaker 1: shout to Hullisco one time for the one time showing

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Speaker 1: us love all week. We appreciate y'all like share, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: all that good ship.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back next time. Resource World Vegas man, for sure.

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Speaker 1: The volume