Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, October twenty twenty four. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. We're stuck remembering tg IM.
Speaker 1: It's me and your man named g Marcus Grant, joined
Speaker 1: by Michael f Florio and LaQuan Jones. I never told
Speaker 1: you guys that I have beef with Steve Burkle, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows that. But what yes, it'd random. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this goes back to college. There was a college night
Speaker 1: at a local amusement park and my friends and I
Speaker 1: were in line for a roller coaster and Julia White
Speaker 1: and his friends came walking up the exit ramp and
Speaker 1: got in front of everybody and got on the ride
Speaker 1: and wave and smiled. And one of my friends had
Speaker 1: some that nice things to say to Steve Brkle as
Speaker 1: the as the trainer was pulling out of the station.
Speaker 1: That is neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: Definitely in real life thought he was Stefan, not Steve Stefan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind of He's gotta giving up Stefan Erkle
Speaker 1: vibe or kel vibes that day. Oh, by the way, CJ.
Speaker 1: McCollum Stefan Urkel same person as far as I'm concerned anyway,
Speaker 1: I did not. We'll start to show that way, but
Speaker 1: that is where we are. We are through five weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. We got some big questions heading into
Speaker 1: week six, also our waiver wire deep dives and folks
Speaker 1: that we are putting back into the free agent pool.
Speaker 1: But let's start with some big running back questions. The
Speaker 1: last few weeks, I've kind of gone just general, but
Speaker 1: this week there were some interesting running back discussions. I
Speaker 1: think we're worth having. So I listed three running backs
Speaker 1: that I have questions about and curious whether or not
Speaker 1: you guys feel the same. Florida. Let's start with Breeze
Speaker 1: Hall because in the conversation between did you draft Breeze
Speaker 1: Hall or do you draft Bjon Robinson? The argument in
Speaker 1: favor of Hall was he doesn't have as much competition
Speaker 1: in the backfield for touches, right like Jon Robinson's got
Speaker 1: to deal with Tyler alg Who's gonna take touches from
Speaker 1: Brece Hall. Apparently Braylan Allen was the answer to that.
Speaker 1: On top of it, Breeze Hall has just not been
Speaker 1: all that efficient with his opportunities. Is it time to
Speaker 1: be concerned about a guy that was maybe a top
Speaker 1: three pick in your league.
Speaker 2: A little bit, but I'm not panicking until I see
Speaker 2: next week because Breece Hall still played over seventy percent
Speaker 2: of the snaps, which you want. The issue is the
Speaker 2: Jets were trailing, and for much of this game it
Speaker 2: was a multi score game, so they had to just
Speaker 2: completely abandon the run. It was very poor game script.
Speaker 2: But next week they get the Bills. And I know
Speaker 2: it might sound like I'm picking on my team or whatever,
Speaker 2: but before week five, I was like, hey, if you're
Speaker 2: in a deep league and you need a sleeper dari
Speaker 2: Ogumbawalle because the Bills get torched by past catching running backs.
Speaker 2: And I think Brece Hall is in play obviously, but
Speaker 2: Braylen Allen I think is a sleeper in week six.
Speaker 2: So if Breese Hall goes out next Monday night and
Speaker 2: has another game like this, then you could catch me worried.
Speaker 2: But I would say right now is probably a good
Speaker 2: time to try to acquire Breshall more than anything else.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of nervousness there. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I'll say this, Lukuan, should we pick up should
Speaker 1: we be rostering Braylan Allen at this point?
Speaker 3: Yes, only because of how productive he is on the ground,
Speaker 3: and he's kind of taken on that role these last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and you know, you're still hopeful that
Speaker 3: bries Hall still gets his touches in the red zone.
Speaker 3: He's still seeing the targets out of the backfield. But
Speaker 3: I love the explosion if out of Brandon Allen when
Speaker 3: he does make his way, you know, through the tackles.
Speaker 3: So I think he's definitely worth him to pick up
Speaker 3: if he's going to be getting these type of touches,
Speaker 3: if he's going to be as productive with the limited
Speaker 3: opportunities he's getting, I don't see why you wouldn't go
Speaker 3: pick him up, being that, you know, he's a productive
Speaker 3: running back that's actually getting some type of time share.
Speaker 3: So I definitely think, you know, in the coming weeks,
Speaker 3: you know, we'll actually understand and figure out what that
Speaker 3: dynamic really is between Breese Hall and Braylen Allen, because
Speaker 3: right now it's still trying to figure out what's exactly
Speaker 3: going on because Briest Hall just has not been great
Speaker 3: on the ground the last couple of weeks, and I
Speaker 3: can't believe that, you know, for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: This is how it's gonna look.
Speaker 1: The Jets offense is borderline dysfunctional at this point, but
Speaker 1: there's so much talent it's hard to get away from them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, Braylon Allen's gonna be in a sleeper column
Speaker 1: this week. You can check that out at NFL dot
Speaker 1: com slash Sleepers. Okay, so we talked about Breeze Hole Lacan,
Speaker 1: let's stuck keep it here with you. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: b Jeon Robinson because, Uh, last Thursday night, it seemed
Speaker 1: like everybody was getting in the fun right. Drake London
Speaker 1: was doing things, Kyle Pitts is doing things, Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: putting up huge numbers, Ray Ray McCloud and Darnell mood
Speaker 1: or dude Jon Robinson. He was the he was the
Speaker 1: squidward meme, just sitting in the house watching SpongeBob and
Speaker 1: Patrick Frolick. Uh, is this is this kind of a
Speaker 1: minor thing or is there an issue going on there
Speaker 1: in Atlanta?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say minor only because you know, everybody was
Speaker 3: quick to remind me that, you know, he was on
Speaker 3: a short week, he was kind of banged up, and
Speaker 3: et cetera.
Speaker 1: Et cetera.
Speaker 3: But I'm just going to toss it to that. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, Hala Jear's not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 3: He's definitely gonna be involved in this backfield. He's going
Speaker 3: to get the touches, He's he going to get the opportunities,
Speaker 3: and you can't knock a player making the best of
Speaker 3: his opportunities. He's taking the maximum effort on every touch
Speaker 3: he gets. But Bijon, more so like they need to
Speaker 3: stop running him outside and more inside the tackles because
Speaker 3: I feel like that's where he's really explosive and he
Speaker 3: gets downhill and then he can get into open space
Speaker 3: and due to things that he's able to do that
Speaker 3: we know and in love but the highlight tapes. But
Speaker 3: more so, man, I am just going to be a
Speaker 3: little bit cautious, you know, in the next coming weeks
Speaker 3: with his production, because since week two, this fantasy points
Speaker 3: had just been dropping and dropping. Outside of the short week,
Speaker 3: outside of the injury and et cetera, et cetera. It's
Speaker 3: just more so just keeping an eye on it, you know,
Speaker 3: in these next couple of weeks. But I think he
Speaker 3: is due for a bounce back this upcoming week.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean exact Floyd don't. I don't really
Speaker 1: know where I go. I mean because Week three thirty
Speaker 1: one rushing yards, Week four twenty eight, I mean he
Speaker 1: had sixty one in Week five. But it just feels
Speaker 1: like the usage is inconsistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, look, Wan hit the nail on the
Speaker 2: head that like, if there's something, it's not like it's
Speaker 2: all Kumbayau over here or whatever. But this one game
Speaker 2: in particular, it's a trend that I've I've started looking
Speaker 2: into a little bit more. Is like it seems like
Speaker 2: teams are on Thursday Night are wanting to distribute the
Speaker 2: running back touches a little bit more. Like Devon hen
Speaker 2: had twenty two on a Thursday night game, but like
Speaker 2: James Cook only had eleven carries. We saw on the
Speaker 2: other side for the Bucks, neither one of their guys
Speaker 2: had more than ten carries in Week four. The Giants
Speaker 2: were getting in Gray and Tracy with Devin Singletary is
Speaker 2: still playing at that point, So like this is something
Speaker 2: that maybe you just we just have to lower our expectations.
Speaker 2: It seems like this could be a new trend around
Speaker 2: the NFL for Thursday night games.
Speaker 1: Also Florio. Should we be alarmed about Travis Etn? I
Speaker 1: know we talked about Tank Bigsby on Monday's show. He
Speaker 1: is ascending. Does this mean that ETN is going to
Speaker 1: continue to disappoint.
Speaker 2: I'm very worried about Travis Etn to the point I
Speaker 2: have a team that I share with the two good
Speaker 2: friends of mine, and we have Travis ETN and we
Speaker 2: have Tank Bigsby because we were like, let's take the handcuff.
Speaker 1: It's a deep league. Stuff like this.
Speaker 2: I sent texted our group yesterday. I sent them a
Speaker 2: message and said, should we start Tank Bigsby over ETN?
Speaker 1: Moving forward?
Speaker 2: Because this is numerous weeks in a row where Bigsby
Speaker 2: has looked great and ETN looks like he's running in mud.
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't have a game this year with
Speaker 2: fifteen Fantasy points and even more than that. Besides, like
Speaker 2: he is this past week where he got involved in
Speaker 2: the passing game, but really before that, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: any other game.
Speaker 1: With twenty receiving yards.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pose the question to you guys, because
Speaker 2: I'm just like, is it time where I know, I
Speaker 2: know we're lowering ETN and our rankings and everything. But
Speaker 2: if you have both of them, are you putting any
Speaker 2: consideration in like maybe Bigsby is the one to play
Speaker 2: or have we not got there yet?
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten there yet. I definitely think there's something
Speaker 1: to be concerned about. I think certainly we've seen Bigsby
Speaker 1: be the more efficient of the two backs, especially the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I'm not sure that the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are ready to completely flip the script and make Bigsby
Speaker 1: there RB one, So I'm not ready to do that yet,
Speaker 1: but I I'm with you, I'm really concerned about what
Speaker 1: I've seen lately.
Speaker 3: I think next week will be the last and final
Speaker 3: test for me if I'm gonna be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: starting Tank because the matchup is against the Barton it's
Speaker 3: a great matchup, and Travis ATN doesn't show up and
Speaker 3: put up big numbers after being a week removed from
Speaker 3: the shoulder entry. It's like, well, if Tank's performing against
Speaker 3: the matchups, and I'm gonna play him based on matchups.
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be you know, a little eye opening,
Speaker 3: you know, moving forward after next week?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess, you know, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it goes. But this is Uh, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think at the start of the season, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Think Bigsby struggled to figure out his
Speaker 1: role last year. I don't know if he's gonna get it. Ah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently he's gonna get a big role, gonna get a
Speaker 1: big opportunity, and he has done really, really well with it.
Speaker 1: So now it's a real conversation down there in Jack. Say,
Speaker 1: look at the Waiver Wire Deep Dives. We went through
Speaker 1: a list of name on Monday Show. You can go
Speaker 1: check that out as well. But if we're going a
Speaker 1: little bit deeper, la Quan, where should we be looking
Speaker 1: for help?
Speaker 3: Uh, you should be looking in New York, New Jersey,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. With Tyrone Tracy, I mean,
Speaker 3: the rookie showed up and showed out with his opportunities
Speaker 3: as well. I mean the Giants cannot ignore you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty nine rushing yards and being so
Speaker 3: efficient on the ground with seven point eight yards per carry.
Speaker 3: And look, I honestly feel like, you know, if Devin
Speaker 3: Singletary is still dealing with a groin injury, you know
Speaker 3: you kind of just rest him because he showed up
Speaker 3: and put up you know, good numbers for you. And
Speaker 3: I think right now, as a guy that you know
Speaker 3: personally struggling at the running back position, I need all
Speaker 3: the help I can get. So he's definitely one of
Speaker 3: those guys that you should be looking to pick up
Speaker 3: because the dude can play.
Speaker 1: Absolutely can play. I liked him in the preseason. He
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of opportunities early. Took an injury
Speaker 1: to Devin Singletary for it to happen, But now it
Speaker 1: makes me think that he's going to start to get
Speaker 1: more touches going forward for you, Floria, who is a
Speaker 1: deep dive option this week?
Speaker 2: If you stayed up late on Sunday night, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of I'm sure there was a lot of sleepy
Speaker 2: eyes in Pittsburgh and Dallas in the office on Monday morning.
Speaker 2: But you saw Jalen Tolbert catch the game winning touchdown.
Speaker 2: But even more than that, you saw the Cowboys make
Speaker 2: a conscious effort to get someone else the ball. Like
Speaker 2: it was clear the Pittsburgh Steelers game plan was make
Speaker 2: anyone but ced lambeat us, and for much of the
Speaker 2: game the Cowboys were kind of struggling to adjust to
Speaker 2: that and then they started getting the ball to Jalen
Speaker 2: Tolbert and good things started happening. And it's not like
Speaker 2: this is a one off. I spoke about him a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we did this segment the
Speaker 2: Deep Dive, and he now in his last four games
Speaker 2: has ten plus Fantasy points in three of them. He
Speaker 2: has a touchdown in two of them. He has nine
Speaker 2: or more targets in two of them. Brandon Cooks is
Speaker 2: on the IR. We know that the Cowboys passing game
Speaker 2: is CD. It is Jake Ferguson and it was it.
Speaker 2: Now they have a third option that I think, and
Speaker 2: if Jalen Tobert continues to play well, I don't think
Speaker 2: he gives the job back to Brandon Cooks. This is
Speaker 2: something we talked about the last time we brought him up.
Speaker 2: Like Brandon Cooks kind of looks like he's at the
Speaker 2: end of his rope. There's an opportunity here to be had.
Speaker 2: And look, if you're a pass the number two wide
Speaker 2: receiver from for Dak Prescott on a Cowboys team that
Speaker 2: has pretty much abandoned the run. They're throwing the ball
Speaker 2: in around seventy percent of their plays, it's easy to
Speaker 2: get fired up. So don't look at Jalen Tolbert as
Speaker 2: just like a one week thing or something like that.
Speaker 2: I think this is someone that brings upside moving forward.
Speaker 1: There was very much a conversation about who the number
Speaker 1: two wide receiver was going to be in Dallas. Coming
Speaker 1: into the season. We knew Ceedee Lamb was going to
Speaker 1: be at the top of the charts, but after that
Speaker 1: it was pretty much an open question, and Jalen Tobert
Speaker 1: may have made a very strong case to get more
Speaker 1: opportunities going forward. I know that the Cook's still going
Speaker 1: to be out for another couple of weeks, so I
Speaker 1: was see what happens when everybody is back, But I
Speaker 1: think Jalen Tobert really making a strong case to be
Speaker 1: that wide receiver too. There last two week's been really
Speaker 1: good for the Andre Swift, But don't think that Rashawn
Speaker 1: Johnson isn't going to have a role in this offense.
Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks, it looks like Shane Waldron
Speaker 1: figured out that Travis Homer wasn't it and starting to
Speaker 1: get more touches for Rashawn Johnson had a couple of
Speaker 1: touchdowns against the Panthers this past week, at the end
Speaker 1: the ten carries for twenty five yards. I mean, not
Speaker 1: a whole lot there, but they are using him near
Speaker 1: the goal line. He's getting some of those high leverage touches.
Speaker 1: And more importantly, he's a guy that they can trust
Speaker 1: in pass protection a little bit more, which means he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field in passing down situations. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the field in those third downs when
Speaker 1: you know Cavin Williams has to drop back and pass.
Speaker 1: So it looks like it's gonna be a two headed
Speaker 1: situation there in Chicago, which is fine. We can sort
Speaker 1: of sort that out and figure out how to make
Speaker 1: it work. So if you were in a deeper league
Speaker 1: and you need help at running back, which pretty much
Speaker 1: everybody does, Rashaan Johnson should be on a whole lot
Speaker 1: of rosters and potentially has the opportunity to be a
Speaker 1: flex option when you need him to, especially because we
Speaker 1: have a whole lot more buys coming up over the
Speaker 1: next several weeks. So if we are adding folks, we
Speaker 1: have to also be saying goodbye to people. Lakwan, who
Speaker 1: are we putting back in the free agent pool?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm sending back to Cardio king Gabe Davis.
Speaker 3: He's doing what we know he's loved to do, run routes.
Speaker 3: He's leading the team in routes, but yet he's not
Speaker 3: being productive with his opportunities. So I was facing one
Speaker 3: of my league ma it's one of my good buddies
Speaker 3: from home, and he started Gabe Davis. I'm kind of
Speaker 3: texting him on the side, like what are you doing, dude,
Speaker 3: Like you know, he hasn't done anything, Like I know
Speaker 3: we're down bad right now, but the dude doesn't do anything.
Speaker 3: It's donuts everywhere. It's a donut party for Gabe Davis.
Speaker 3: But he should not be rostered in forty percent of
Speaker 3: the leagues right now. When you have guys like Wandell
Speaker 3: Rops and Josh Downs, guys that are emerging as useful
Speaker 3: players and have a solid target share and being productive
Speaker 3: with their opportunities, it's time to make room. Get the
Speaker 3: zombies off your bench. Goodbye, Gabriel Davis.
Speaker 1: So qua saying goodbye to Gabe Davis, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Duncan. Meanwhile, for you Florio, who is getting a
Speaker 1: life jacket going back at the pool, I.
Speaker 2: Guess we could stick with that because Duncan is like
Speaker 2: the most famous place in Boston. But it's over for
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry. Like Week two was awesome, twelve targets, eight catches,
Speaker 2: one hundred and nine yards, and I know he was
Speaker 2: a big waiver wire pickup and stuff, and it was like,
Speaker 2: all right, tight end is so bad right now that
Speaker 2: this guy he could be useful. He could help your
Speaker 2: team keep afloat. Then he goes out, he puts up
Speaker 2: two catches for nine yards against the Jets. You're like,
Speaker 2: all right, but the Jets are a good defense. Then
Speaker 2: he does it against the forty nine ers and you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: but the forty nine ers are elite at shutting down
Speaker 2: tight ends. And then he does it against the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: who have not been stopping anyone. So now, in that
Speaker 2: one game in Week two, he has more one hundred
Speaker 2: and nine yards in that game seventy one in his
Speaker 2: other four games combined, four targets are fewer two catches
Speaker 2: in all.
Speaker 1: Four of his other games. That one big game is
Speaker 1: clearly the.
Speaker 2: Blip on the radar, and the Patriots offense looks broken
Speaker 2: right now, Like Jacoby brissetid is taking sacks at the
Speaker 2: second highest rate in the NFL. They have nothing going
Speaker 2: on downfield. It should be Drake May time, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. They're outside of the running backs.
Speaker 1: There's no one I want from New England on my rosters.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the case for Hunter Henry is
Speaker 1: basically like, hey, look, they may throw it to him
Speaker 1: and they get down near the end zone, and until
Speaker 1: they figure out their wide receiver group, he was going
Speaker 1: to be viable. But it does look like Jaylen Polk
Speaker 1: is starting to take over a little bit there as well,
Speaker 1: and with a potential quarterback change coming, who knows how
Speaker 1: that's going to shuffle things around in the near future.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm gonna go with to Curtis Samuel, who
Speaker 1: was rostered in a lot more leagues than I thought
Speaker 1: he would be Florida. I know you talked about this
Speaker 1: offense on Monday and how it looks like teams are
Speaker 1: figuring out how to scheme against it a little bit,
Speaker 1: and how much it made a difference not having Khalil
Speaker 1: Shakir there. Curtis Samuel, to me, has always sort of
Speaker 1: fallen into that sort of Duke Johnson category of being
Speaker 1: a dual threat guy who doesn't seem like he's good
Speaker 1: enough at any one thing to get a lot of opportunity. Right,
Speaker 1: He's a good wide receiver, but he's always played with
Speaker 1: better wide receivers. He's good at running the football, but
Speaker 1: he's on a team, always on a team with better
Speaker 1: running backs. He's not He's not quite debo in terms
Speaker 1: of his ability and his dual threat skills there, and
Speaker 1: in an offense that right now is struggling to be
Speaker 1: explosive and score points, it's just hard to make a
Speaker 1: case to keep Curtis Samuel around. I know we like
Speaker 1: the idea of Curtis Samuel, but the reality of Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel is not quite the same. So, because wide receiver
Speaker 1: is so deep, you can find guys off the waiver wire.
Speaker 1: There's really no point of holding onto a guy who's
Speaker 1: just not getting enough opportunity when he does get opportunity,
Speaker 1: not doing enough with it to make it worthwhile for
Speaker 1: having him on your roster.
Speaker 2: Please, I will trade Curtis over this guy.
Speaker 1: This is where we are where we are now.
Speaker 2: Nice, but at least James could run, block and stretch
Speaker 2: the field like he does something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it seems like look and he was.
Speaker 1: He was good in the locker room, like when they
Speaker 1: you know, all of his teammates seemed very excited to
Speaker 1: see him when they met up recently. So and it
Speaker 1: didn't get you any fantasy points, but it does count
Speaker 1: for something.
Speaker 3: In a lot.
Speaker 1: Anyway that hopefully helps you set your rosters and get
Speaker 1: you ready for Week six coming up in the meantime.
Speaker 1: That will do it for this edition of the NFL
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