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Speaker 1: What's up? His way up with Angela Yee and doctor

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Speaker 1: Wendy Josepho is here with me today. Welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is long overdue, very long, and this is perfect

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Speaker 1: time and no right on time, because you did not

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Speaker 1: tell me that you are a distinguished professor at Wesleyan University.

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Speaker 1: I graduated from I went to wesley Yes I did.

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Speaker 1: I was just there teaching the students yesterday. First of all,

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Speaker 1: why did you not tell me this? You didn't know

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Speaker 1: that I want to have.

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Speaker 2: A yes speaker in my class.

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Speaker 1: They would love that, all right, so let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's can relate with that, okay, because we

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Speaker 1: didn't watch on Real House as a Potomac when you

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Speaker 1: wrote the letter to resign from Johns Hopkins, right, which

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Speaker 1: was you said? But that is also a good feeling

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Speaker 1: to say I'm leaving this situation rather than you know,

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Speaker 1: the other way around. It's always true.

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Speaker 2: I felt, like, you know, there comes a time when

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Speaker 2: you feel like you've occupied the space for a long time,

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Speaker 2: and there was nothing left for me to accomplish in that, right,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like I sort of outgrew it.

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Speaker 2: It was becoming something that I knew it like the

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Speaker 2: back of my hand. That wasn't challenging anymore. And I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to just do the mundane and just do

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Speaker 2: like the rigamarole. I want to be challenged, and I

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Speaker 2: also need to break real talk. I've been there, I feel,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been a professor since I graduated my PhD.

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Speaker 2: And that was the first thing I did, and I've

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Speaker 2: just been in the same spot like I wanted something new.

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Speaker 2: My time was up for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm all into challenging myself because some people love having

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Speaker 1: a routine, knowing what they can expect, doing the same

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Speaker 1: thing and being comfortable. I am not good with that.

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Speaker 1: And so once you start feeling like, all right, this is,

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Speaker 1: like you said, mundane routine, it's time to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is you know, if I can't do more

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Speaker 1: here or we can't figure out how we can challenge ourselves,

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Speaker 1: because I've been in that position before too. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: we also have to realize that it ain't like you

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Speaker 1: own the university. And if they have a reason to

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Speaker 1: be like, okay, we're going to move on from you, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they'll do it. And so we shouldn't ever feel too

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Speaker 1: much loyalty as far as I need to be here

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Speaker 1: for X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 2: You know, someone told me, I said, we're having the

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Speaker 2: conversation about careers, and they said the house always wins,

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Speaker 2: and that stuck out to me because at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, they're going to do what's best for them,

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Speaker 2: So it's up to you to do what's best for you.

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Speaker 1: And doctor Wendy, I always say that you gotta walk

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Speaker 1: away while you're.

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Speaker 2: Up Hello, way up, not just up up, way up.

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Speaker 1: It's truly about this curriculum because I can imagine right

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Speaker 1: now at Wesleyan that the students are like, this is

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Speaker 1: the course that we want to take. It's a course

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Speaker 1: that you also developed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I wrote it. I took the summer off after

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Speaker 2: I resigned from my other university. I took the summer

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Speaker 2: off and I was like, all right, let me travel

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Speaker 2: while I was traveling, I was like, it's not that

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Speaker 2: I don't like teaching, it's just that I want to

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Speaker 2: do it my way. So I wrote a course and

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Speaker 2: it's titled the Sociology of Reality TV. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: who best to talk about reality TV? For my academic

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Speaker 2: then me. So this course really examines the way reality

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Speaker 2: some important subjects from racism to colorism, to gender roles

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Speaker 2: I teach, and I just love it. It's liberating for

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Speaker 2: me because when you go into reality TV. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about you, but for me, I was like, you

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Speaker 2: and I said, how do I flip this on this

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Speaker 2: And that's why I did and I wrote this course.

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Speaker 1: That's how people feel like I call it a dacy series,

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Speaker 2: And that's why I always told my students is we've

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Speaker 2: You are yourself, but an exaggerated version of yourself. You

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Speaker 2: You guys are watching reality TV to be entertained, So

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Speaker 1: I remember when you joined Real Housewives of Potomac, but

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Speaker 1: why would she do that? Because that's, like you said,

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Speaker 2: But you come on there with your intentions and then

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Speaker 2: also think that it's important for people who are watching

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Speaker 2: nothing more, nothing less. I know some people will be like,

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Speaker 1: Like it goes? It's work, Yeah, it's work.

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Speaker 2: We are a group of friends. By the end of

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Speaker 1: So what did you learn about yourself in the first season,

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Speaker 1: because it's an adjustment period, right, anybody who joins a show,

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Speaker 2: Right, I wish they told me. They didn't tell me.

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Speaker 2: You know, our show, we don't. We do not get

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Speaker 1: And so I mean, what did you have to learn quickly?

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Speaker 2: is don't take anything personal. Okay, you can't take any

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Speaker 2: I'm just laughing like you. I'm having so much fun.

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Speaker 2: They're going at it. I'm just laughing at them. I'm

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Speaker 2: But then there's other seasons where it's like non stop,

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Speaker 2: And I think to answer your first question about what

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Speaker 2: did I learn about myself my first season is that

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Speaker 2: you have to remain true to you. You cannot change

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Speaker 2: like who you are is who you are and doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter what your fellow cast members are telling you, doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter what the viewers are telling you. You know who

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Speaker 2: you'll have a million people telling you who you should be,

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Speaker 2: and that's a problem. So say true to yourself.

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Speaker 1: And then even in the space of you have a

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Speaker 1: nothing else and nothing else, baby, that's it. You have

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Speaker 1: a lot of other things, I mean being a wife,

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Speaker 1: and then also in politics, being able to have those conversations,

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Speaker 1: as they call it, liberals are looking like this, and

435
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Speaker 1: they enjoy that. Like if you say something because I

436
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Speaker 1: just said something, I said, reparations for white people is crazy.

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Speaker 1: And there were people in my comments and you know

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Speaker 1: you can and they were like, Ah, you're forty and

439
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Speaker 1: you're not married, you're forty percent. I'm first of all,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like crazy to me. If that's what

441
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Speaker 1: you want to.

442
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Speaker 2: Do anything, anything that has nothing to do with nothing,

443
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Speaker 2: you know, do y'all keep on playing with Trump. Trump

444
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Speaker 2: is Trump is going to show y'all. Yeah, And he

445
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Speaker 2: ran this election. He ran his presidential bid one thousand

446
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Speaker 2: percent like a reality star, and he ran it like

447
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Speaker 2: that was his platform. And let me tell you something

448
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Speaker 2: that is definitely a lesson for you. And I'm going

449
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Speaker 2: to pitch that one because he ran his campaign a

450
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Speaker 2: thousand percent like a reality start.

451
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Speaker 1: And that's I watch the show of the White House.

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Speaker 2: HM stamp it, professor.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming for that. I'll come to take notes in there.

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Speaker 1: I love this for Wesleyan University, though I love it

455
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Speaker 1: for them too, you know, honestly, like for me, I haven't.

456
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Speaker 1: And there's some amazing people who have graduated from there.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was there, Yeah, I did. I got

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Speaker 1: the Distinguished Alumni a word a couple of years. That's

459
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Speaker 1: really But it honestly is such a great liberal arts

460
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Speaker 1: college just because I went there because there was no

461
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Speaker 1: core curriculum and I was an English major and I

462
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Speaker 1: really wanted to be able to do that creative you know.

463
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Speaker 1: I took screenwriting, I took playwriting, I took like all

464
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Speaker 1: the courses that I really wanted to take. And that's

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Speaker 1: something that if that would have been there when I

466
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Speaker 1: was there, so progressive and so today and so relatable

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Speaker 1: to real life.

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Speaker 2: I love the university. The campus is beautiful, the students

469
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: are having the time of their life, and it is

470
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Speaker 2: a liberal campus. I remember coming to campus the day

471
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Speaker 2: after the election and the students were just like so bombed,

472
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Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, keep your chin up.

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Speaker 2: You guys are the next generation. You guys are going

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Speaker 2: to make sure that the world is a better place.

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Speaker 2: But Wesleyan is amazing and I'm so honored that they

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Speaker 2: not only you know, invited me to be a professor there,

477
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Speaker 2: but then gave me the title distinguished professor.

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Speaker 1: I know that's right, that's an honor.

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Speaker 2: This little black girl, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna make listen everybody going wrong, going wrong, and

481
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Speaker 1: you know, I do want to just talk about your

482
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Speaker 1: future on Potomac. So you know, you feel like that's

483
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Speaker 1: gonna keep on going, like you want to be there

484
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Speaker 1: because I know, you know, Candace left, she decided that

485
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Speaker 1: she you know, she had her baby. Congratulations to her,

486
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Speaker 1: you know for that you do your clubs. Yeah, I

487
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Speaker 1: met her on there, and I love Candas, but you know,

488
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Speaker 1: she was like, okay, I need to some people do

489
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Speaker 1: need some times to step away. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: you've mastered the way to kind of go through there

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Speaker 1: at least on this season.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we will take a season by season.

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Speaker 2: This season was my my favorite season. So yeah, for me,

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Speaker 2: I can't speak to nobody else that peoplecause some other

495
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Speaker 2: people getting dragged by the eyelids. I listen, but it

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Speaker 2: ain't even you know, yes we are, but just as

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Speaker 2: far as we are. But it's more so like about me,

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Speaker 2: like there's something I didn't know you were forty.

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Speaker 1: By the way, but I'm over there you are. Plus

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you look so good.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I was going to say that is

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Speaker 2: there's something about forty that I feel like, once you

503
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Speaker 2: hit it, you just like it just clicks and everything

504
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: just clicks and it makes sense and you feel liberated

505
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Speaker 2: and no one can tell you nothing, like you're so

506
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Speaker 2: sure of yourself. And I think that you guys are

507
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Speaker 2: able to see that the season of Potomac, it's not

508
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Speaker 2: just you know, my mended friendships with some of the women,

509
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Speaker 2: it's literally my mended friendship with myself. Oh good, you know.

510
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Speaker 1: Like like you look so comfortable in some happy.

511
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Speaker 2: So comfortable and so happy.

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Speaker 1: I love it all right, but we'll definitely be watching,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, everything that you have going on. I'm so

514
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Speaker 1: glad that you made it up here finally because I

515
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Speaker 1: know this is something that we've been wanting to do

516
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Speaker 1: and I definitely want to come and you know, do

517
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Speaker 1: your show too at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's not talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Friends. And my girl, Jasmine, I.

520
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Speaker 2: Love Jasmine was at my fortieth birthday party. You should

521
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Speaker 2: came with her.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't invited, but I did sy the pictures, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll run it back. And the nineteen fifty four Equity Project, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about that for a second,

525
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Speaker 1: because education is so important and making sure that we

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Speaker 1: know our own history because things are being threatened so

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Speaker 1: much right now. So can we talk about that brief sure.

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Speaker 2: So I started the nineteen fifty four Equity Project because

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Speaker 2: as an educator, I felt like a lot of times,

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Speaker 2: we want to have diversity on campus, but we don't

531
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Speaker 2: have inclusion. We want to fill these quotas and say,

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Speaker 2: we have these students of color on our campus, but

533
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Speaker 2: how do those students of color field do they feel

534
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Speaker 2: like they're at home? So the nineteen fifty four Equity

535
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Speaker 2: Project provides mentorships and supports for black students to make

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Speaker 2: sure that they feel okay, any resources they need. It's

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Speaker 2: also for students who are the first one in their

538
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Speaker 2: families to go to college because sometimes you don't know

539
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Speaker 2: what to do because you don't have any advice. So

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Speaker 2: it's just like a resource for students to make sure

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Speaker 2: that not only they survive, we don't want them just

542
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Speaker 2: to survive, we want them to thrive, right And that's

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Speaker 2: what the nineteen fifty four Equity Project does.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of thriving this cannabis line.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Happy Eddie. I am an investor in Happy Eddie Cannabis.

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Speaker 2: My husband started it, and I think it's so dope because,

547
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Speaker 2: you know, he came to it from the lens of

548
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Speaker 2: a black man in the cannabis field, and he's an attorney,

549
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Speaker 2: and he sees how so many black people have been

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Speaker 2: criminalized for cannabis offenses and now people are making a profit.

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Speaker 1: I say, people who were criticizing it, hello, opening up spots,

552
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Speaker 1: investing in spots, and it's like you were the main

553
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Speaker 1: You were the main people feel crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I don't understand. So he basically took the lens

555
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Speaker 2: of you know what, if people are going to benefit

556
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Speaker 2: off of this, we're not going to do it off

557
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Speaker 2: the backs of black people and people who are literally

558
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Speaker 2: in prison for it. So not only is it a

559
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Speaker 2: cannabis line that have all the things, they have flower edibles,

560
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Speaker 2: all the things, but he also does social justice work.

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Speaker 2: He partnered with the Last Prisoner Project, which is a

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Speaker 2: program to get people out of the judicial the legal

563
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Speaker 2: system who have been penalized for cannabis offenses so recup

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Speaker 2: like this that Eddie all right, well, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely a pleasure to have you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I gotta come back, okay, all right, it's way