WEBVTT - Wrecking Each Other’s Sleds with Elana Meyers Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where our translucent

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<v Speaker 1>winner body is finally starting to get a little tan.

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<v Speaker 1>This Arizona sun is doing wonders for our vibes. It's Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty eighth. On today's show, you'll hear from a

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<v Speaker 1>true legend, one of the best Bob's letters in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>Alana Meyers Taylor. We spoke a few weeks ago when

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<v Speaker 1>she was fresh off a World Cup Monobob Race victory

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<v Speaker 1>and preparing for the upcoming IBSF bob Sled and Skeleton

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<v Speaker 1>World Championships in Lake Placid. We talked winning after forty,

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<v Speaker 1>racing after babies, two of them, meddling in a men's event,

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<v Speaker 1>racism and sliding sports, and so much more. Now before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that interview, no length they need to

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<v Speaker 1>knowe today, but we know we can't leave you hanging

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<v Speaker 1>without a speed round of what to look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. So in college hoops, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>big one Saturday night with number two UCLA hosting number

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<v Speaker 1>four USC. The two teams met in early February, with

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<v Speaker 1>USC sophomore Juju Watkins scoring a massive thirty eight points

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<v Speaker 1>to hand UCLA it's first loss of the season. Both

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<v Speaker 1>teams are undefeated since so Saturday night, its contest is

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<v Speaker 1>sure to be a good one. In Vib's Love has

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<v Speaker 1>one game tonight and to tomorrow, and the PVF has

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<v Speaker 1>double headers both Saturday and Sunday on the ice. The

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL's inaction on Saturday. In Pro Hoops Unrivals got a

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<v Speaker 1>double header tonight with two more games tomorrow, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>championship weekend for Athletes Unlimited. They'll crown the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five AU Pro Basketball champion in Nashville, Tennessee on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll throw all those schedules. In our show notes, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to take a quick break. Alana Meyers Taylor and

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<v Speaker 1>Moore coming up next welcome back slices before our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Alana Meyers Taylor, a black woman who is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best Bob's letters on the planet. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that one of the first Bob's letters to put

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<v Speaker 1>Team USA on the map was also a black woman.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, y'all. It's time for an epic mashup of segments,

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<v Speaker 1>not just our latest Black History Months Spotlight, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the latest edition of Yes and okay, let's set the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the early two thousands, the US had never

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<v Speaker 1>won a women's bob sled medal. In fact, no country

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<v Speaker 1>had because it was one of the few Olympic sports

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<v Speaker 1>left without a women's event. Then, ahead of the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two Winter Games in Salt Lake City, the

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<v Speaker 1>International Olympic Committee added women's bobsled aka bob slay. Tomato

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<v Speaker 1>Tomato Abiza Abitha enter Vanetta Flowers. She had an extensive

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<v Speaker 1>track and field background as a sprinter and long jumper

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<v Speaker 1>and earned NCAA All American honors seven times at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Alabama, Birmingham. Flowers actually qualified for the US

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Trials twice, first in one hundred meters in ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>then in long jump in two thousand, but she never

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<v Speaker 1>made Team USA and was just about ready to retire

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<v Speaker 1>from competition when her husband Johnny, convinced her to try

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<v Speaker 1>out for the bob sled team. She made that cut,

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<v Speaker 1>became the top US breakwoman, and raced with teammate Jill

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<v Speaker 1>Bachin in the two thousand and two Games. The pair

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<v Speaker 1>went on to win the first women's bob sled gold

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<v Speaker 1>medal ever. Awarded. Flowers also became the first black athlete

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<v Speaker 1>to win gold in an Olympic Winner Games. She actually

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that until a reporter asked her about it

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<v Speaker 1>after finishing the race. She said, quote, I hope this

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<v Speaker 1>won't be the end of it. I hope you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>other African American girls and boys who want to give

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<v Speaker 1>winter sports a try, because there are not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>out there. End quote. Flowers continued competing in bob's led events,

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<v Speaker 1>winning a bronze medal at the four World Championships and

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<v Speaker 1>finishing sixth that the six Olympics in turn in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>After six she retired from the sport. Flowers made a

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<v Speaker 1>mark that can't be erased, and to this day, half

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<v Speaker 1>of the US women's bob sled medalists have been black

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<v Speaker 1>athletes like Alana Meyers Taylor. So yes to new friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, Alana, and to Vanetta Flowers, who paved

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<v Speaker 1>or should I say plowed the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes and.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all, now that you know some of the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the bob sled, let's get back to the present.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my conversation with Alana Meyers Taylor joining us. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she's one of the best bob's sled in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>hot off the heels of her first World Cup Mono

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<v Speaker 1>bob race victory two. Actually, she's a five time Olympic medalist,

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<v Speaker 1>winning three silvers and two bronze across four different Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>a nine time World Championship medalist, owning four golds, two

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<v Speaker 1>silvers and three bronze, and she's won twenty one World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup races as of this recording. She's a graduate of

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington University, where she was a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>softball team. She's the most decorated black athlete in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the Winter Olympics, an activist, a former president

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<v Speaker 1>of the Women's Sports Foundation, Mom Tanico and Noah, and

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<v Speaker 1>a former bride on say Yes to the Dress it's

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<v Speaker 1>the money aka Alana Meyers Taylor. What's up a lotta

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<v Speaker 1>that much?

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<v Speaker 2>So I find it very funny you brought to say

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<v Speaker 2>yes to the dress. That's something most people miss. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something I don't talk about much, but that was a

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<v Speaker 2>good fine So I got.

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<v Speaker 1>To find that episode. When I was getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>my wedding, I became obsessive about say yes to the dress.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course as soon as I got married.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm good now, but I've watched it

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<v Speaker 1>a ton when I was getting ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so did I before I was audit and ever

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<v Speaker 2>since I was audit up like, I'm okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're scarred from fourteen ou Clineman's okay. Most important question. First,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a Bob Sled or a Bob Sleigh kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gal?

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Sled for sure. I mean, the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>world says Bob Sleigh. But we're American. We make up

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<v Speaker 2>our own stuff all the time, So Bob Sled it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're sticking with feet. Screw your meters exactly. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it our way.

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<v Speaker 2>I prefer the meters, though, the meters. We've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this for so long Kilograham's meters. All the metric systems works.

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<v Speaker 1>For me now, well, for sports, it's kind of necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I did track, so of course we ran

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<v Speaker 1>in meters and all the throws were in meters, so

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<v Speaker 1>like all that stuff, it's hard to fight that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like that you're sticking with Bob Sled. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very American of you. Let's talk about those most recent

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup wins I mentioned You've had so much success

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<v Speaker 1>across the Olympics and World championships, you've pretty much done

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<v Speaker 1>it all. But you hadn't won an international mono bob

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<v Speaker 1>race that's the one person bob sledding event for female athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>until just a few weeks ago in Saint Mort's when

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<v Speaker 1>you won twice. Was that on a checklist? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hanging over your head? Is something you hadn't done?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Actually, because when I started monobob, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>start monobob until after I had Nico, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty twenty twenty one was my first season doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a world series, it was just called

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<v Speaker 2>something differently. So I had won event on that series,

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<v Speaker 2>the World Series, but never won a World Cup. And

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<v Speaker 2>actually I didn't even know I hadn't never won a

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup, Like, I didn't really even understand the distinction.

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<v Speaker 2>So for that to be a stat and for that

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<v Speaker 2>to get announced last week, I was like, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. But also I think it's just pretty cool

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<v Speaker 2>because of how old I am, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do the solo monobob, you know, rely so

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<v Speaker 2>much on your athleticism on top of your driving. So

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to be forty years old and show

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<v Speaker 2>that I could still win by myself was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Feat that is pretty cool, and we love as we

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<v Speaker 1>say on this show, we quote Diana Tarassi, old people

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<v Speaker 1>have dreams too. What were the feelings heading in then,

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't something you were aware you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>check off, was it just another race or was there

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<v Speaker 1>this element of like, Okay, I'm over forty now I've

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<v Speaker 1>got two kids, like this is every race is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of an opportunity to continue to prove myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little bit of both, because I had

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<v Speaker 2>been so close, Like it just seemed like all season long,

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<v Speaker 2>things just weren't going right. And I knew I could

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<v Speaker 2>win races still, I knew I could be at the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the podium, and it just felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was bad weather or bad circumstances or it

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<v Speaker 2>just it felt like all the pieces just weren't coming together.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was eager and I was frustrated. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated the whole season. I was like, this luck's got

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<v Speaker 2>to give eventually. And even in that track in State Moritz,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had been driving really well, I'd been doing

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<v Speaker 2>really well at training, and then the first week they

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<v Speaker 2>were there, they actually canceled the race, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually been doing really well on this track. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was really eager to get back there and be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have those opportunities to race Mono Bob again

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<v Speaker 2>because I knew I could be successful on that track.

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<v Speaker 2>In particular, I knew like it was only a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of time before the pieces came together and I could

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<v Speaker 2>show that I could win again.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the monobob. It was just added a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago for those who aren't familiar with the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of ins and outs of Bob's led. For nearly a century,

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<v Speaker 1>men have competed in the two man and the four

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<v Speaker 1>man events, and women just got their first Olympic bobsled

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<v Speaker 1>event the two women in two thousand and two, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the second the monobob was added twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Or did you start in twenty twenty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually they started doing it on the lower level circuit

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<v Speaker 2>in after the twenty eighteen Olympics, so right after that

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<v Speaker 2>year they'd started, but not on the highest level. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was competing on the highest level with two man,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just never had the opportunity until it finally

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<v Speaker 2>got added to the World Cup or World Series circuit

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<v Speaker 2>in the twenty twenty season, twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Seasons, and then the Olympics in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, but it they'd always been around as like

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<v Speaker 2>development sleds, so people will learn how to drive in

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<v Speaker 2>it and then you just go and get into two man.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had never actually driven a monobob, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny when I started driving a monobob there were younger

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<v Speaker 2>drivers who had way more experience in it than I had,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I'd been driving at that for twelve years already.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's annoying. That's like when they introduced a new

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<v Speaker 1>technology that young people immediately understand and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already learned all the other technologies. This is bullshit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you had long campaign for the for Women event,

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<v Speaker 1>but the people in charge decided instead to add the

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<v Speaker 1>monobob to the Olympics instead. So what was the rationale

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<v Speaker 1>given for that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's quite a few different reasons that were given.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether or not they're all true, who knows. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of it was because they thought having the monobob would

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<v Speaker 2>allow more nations to get involved than more small nations.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem with the monobob though, is you still need

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<v Speaker 2>two people because you still have the person driving it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you still need people to move the equipment, to

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<v Speaker 2>prepare the equipment, and all this kind of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>you still need a breakman, whether or not you have

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<v Speaker 2>it or not. So it has allowed more nations to

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<v Speaker 2>get involved, but just not as the levels they thought

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<v Speaker 2>it would. And also they just said, oh, four men

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<v Speaker 2>would be too expensive and all this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But the problem is with monobob you also have to

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<v Speaker 2>buy new sleds. Like nobody had all these competitive monolbobs

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<v Speaker 2>sitting around, so people had to buy new sleds versus

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<v Speaker 2>a foe man. There were plenty of four man sleds

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<v Speaker 2>sitting around. All you had to do was pick one up.

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<v Speaker 2>And as TMOSA, we had tons and tons of sleds.

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<v Speaker 2>But now we're buying monobob sleds every year, which is

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<v Speaker 2>something we might have to do as a foreman. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little ins and out. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was grateful to have an opportunity to even

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<v Speaker 2>have two chances to medal, So it's like a double

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<v Speaker 2>edged sword. I wanted it for women because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it gave more opportunities for more women to win a medal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a team sport athlete coming from softball, like

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to have that team atmosphere versus the monobob.

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<v Speaker 2>It just really gives the drivers another opportunity to meddle,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, the brakemen just have to do all

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<v Speaker 2>the work on a monobob day but getting none of

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<v Speaker 2>the glory, which is seems kind of backwards to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have some follow ups for us non bob

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<v Speaker 1>sled experts. First of all, men and women use the

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<v Speaker 1>same sled so when you say that there's four men

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<v Speaker 1>sleds popping around everywhere, the women could have used the

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<v Speaker 1>same ones that are used for those Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two Olympics meet and a driver free

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<v Speaker 2>del Duca actually use exact same sled in those games.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we use we used to say same sleds

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<v Speaker 2>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of pressure not to wreck someone's ride.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually wrecked each other's sleds. So he wrecked mine,

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<v Speaker 2>I got him back, borrowed his, and wrecked his. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>not intentional. Nobody ever wants to crash course sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, second follow up. Then, so the mono bob they

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that it'd be easier for there to be

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<v Speaker 1>this less expensive sled and for more people to participate

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<v Speaker 1>because across the world there might be more single folks

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to do this as opposed to amassing a

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<v Speaker 1>four person team paying for a four person sled. But

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately the onus is then on that one athlete to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for things and to do things. Tell us more

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<v Speaker 1>about the brakeman and why they are so involved even

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not actually in the sled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the monobob, it's the same exact runners which

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<v Speaker 2>are blades as the two person sled. So before a

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<v Speaker 2>race you have to prepare those You have to stand

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<v Speaker 2>them down, make sure there is frictionless as possible, get

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<v Speaker 2>out any scratches, and one runner alone could take an

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<v Speaker 2>hour at least, so you're talking four runners in four

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<v Speaker 2>hours of just on your feet preparing those runners. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to move the sled back and forth, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the brakemen are doing all that work on race days,

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<v Speaker 2>even in a two man competition, like we don't move

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<v Speaker 2>our own sleds. The brakemen and the coaches and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>All the staff do that for us. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>could imagine then on race days and a mono bob,

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<v Speaker 2>all the brakemen, all from around the world are doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the work, moving all the sleds. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we come down and win a medal and they just

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<v Speaker 2>cheer for us because they don't get one themselves, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like I said, it's always felt backwards to me, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a totally different skill set. It's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>a driver would also learn.

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<v Speaker 2>No drivers, we've learned all that, so we do it too,

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<v Speaker 2>but and especially me, I spent three years as a brakemen,

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<v Speaker 2>so we do it too, but not to the same

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<v Speaker 2>extent as the brakemen do. The brakemen are like the workhorses,

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<v Speaker 2>literally the workhorses, because they're responsible for so much of

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<v Speaker 2>the push at the beginning regards to monopop has caused

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<v Speaker 2>drivers to get in better shape because we have to

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<v Speaker 2>push the slide by ourselves. But in other regards, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a lot of more work for breakmen who

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<v Speaker 2>don't get to participate in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I read about you recruiting a breakman by finding

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<v Speaker 1>out that she could like deadlift a certain amount, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, why don't you give it a shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on over, I'll teach how okay, is getting a

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<v Speaker 1>four women event in the Olympics program something you'd still

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<v Speaker 1>like to see or that other Bob's letters are still

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<v Speaker 1>pushing for.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see it. However, I've had this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation now with the younger pilots and said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your game now, like I'm done after these games,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've had my time. I think four man is

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<v Speaker 2>a way to go. By the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys decide you want to stick with monobob

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what you want to see the future of

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<v Speaker 2>a sport look like, then I'm going to support you

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<v Speaker 2>in any way possible, Like it's time for you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to step up and take over this, and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do whatever I can to support you. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I might disagree with you, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I'm not going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>one controlling direction of the sports. You guys to take

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<v Speaker 2>the mantle and decide where you want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that, Saint Marit's victory was your first win since

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<v Speaker 1>the birth of your second child. Noah in November of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. What were you feeling. Was it relief

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<v Speaker 1>that you made it back on top of the podium

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<v Speaker 1>or was it calm because you were certain you'd be back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was relief relief because, like I said, this season

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<v Speaker 2>had been so much struggle from that point and just

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<v Speaker 2>there's been so many times where I've been close, Like

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<v Speaker 2>in Aldenberg, Germany, our first race of the year, I

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<v Speaker 2>came down and I was in the top three, I

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<v Speaker 2>was in metal position and then came down and crashed,

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<v Speaker 2>and like to start the season off of that and

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<v Speaker 2>then just to go in every week knowing I could

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<v Speaker 2>win and just not putting the piece together, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just frustrating. So when I finally did it, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>relief and it was like, Okay, now we're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>do something. Now we're ready to get back in the

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<v Speaker 2>swing of things, and now we can move forward and

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<v Speaker 2>go into this the rest of the season and into

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympic season knowing that we saw the potential to win.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was really good feeling though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the first mono Bob Gold, first since Noah,

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<v Speaker 1>first after turning forty and Saint Moritz is where your

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<v Speaker 1>husband Nick proposed to you at the metal podium at

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty thirteen World Championships after you won gold and

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<v Speaker 1>mixed team. So this is kind of a special place

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, it's it's like one of my favorite tracks

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, one of my favorite places in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could easily spend the rest of my life

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<v Speaker 2>in Saint Marit's move there and be happy and drive

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<v Speaker 2>taxi bobs forever. I don't know if that will actually happen.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband still got a job to do and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody's got to afford all this, so yep, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just absolutely love it there, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have never gotten a chance to go and do it

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<v Speaker 2>every time you go there, like last year, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a different nanny than I do this year, I made

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<v Speaker 2>sure they take Bob said rides down it, get past

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<v Speaker 2>your rides and all that kind of stuff. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of the coolest places in the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's the birth of Bob said. So you know you

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<v Speaker 2>can't help but like love it there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Switzerland, which I loved, but not Saint Maritz,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got to add it to the list. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always wondered, And I've never spoken to someone who got

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<v Speaker 1>that proposal like on top of another joyful event, end

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<v Speaker 1>of a race, after a title game, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were the emotions. Was it like, oh my

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<v Speaker 1>god that now I'm celebrating the race, or is it

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<v Speaker 1>like whoa, this is so cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, initially I told him because I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to propose at Christmas, like you know, a normal

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas proposal. So I told him. I was like, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>do not propose it world championships, Like, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want World Championships to be about worlds. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>my proposal to be about by proposal. But it ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being really cool, and I'm glad you didn't listen

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<v Speaker 2>to me, because it was just like to have that

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<v Speaker 2>moment and it'll be on the podium and get down

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<v Speaker 2>on one knee and be freezing cold, and to have

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<v Speaker 2>the memories and the video that will last last time,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a really cool thing to look back on.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've got we've got a newspaper coverings

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<v Speaker 2>of it in like Zech Republic covering and all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world people covering it. So that's a memory that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have forever, and it's pretty cool to go back

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<v Speaker 2>there now with my two sons, and he was able

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<v Speaker 2>to join us for that weekend too with the mono.

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<v Speaker 2>Bab wins to have the whole family there again and

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<v Speaker 2>look back and be like, oh my gosh, that was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. That was been in this sport a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>To have that moment of humfortable circle is really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite a precedent to set for the marriage though, that

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<v Speaker 1>you told him not to and he did it anyway. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to look out for that. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break when we come back more with

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<v Speaker 1>Alana Meyers Taylor. I've got an internet friend named Ken Childs.

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<v Speaker 1>He covers all things Bob's leed and skeleton and luge,

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<v Speaker 1>so shout out his sight sliding on ice dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked him what he'd want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>if he sat down with you, and he said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>interested in how you mentally handled coming back from maternity

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<v Speaker 1>leave and not being as strong as a starter when

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<v Speaker 1>you first came back, Like, what was the work you

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<v Speaker 1>did to be patient getting your push start back?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm still not the most patient person. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest thing, and I'm still harder on myself, and actually

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<v Speaker 2>coming back from Noah has been much harder than coming

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<v Speaker 2>back from Nico, like both kids, unfortunately. I say unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>because I really had wanted to have a non sea

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<v Speaker 2>section birth and I had sea sections both of them

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<v Speaker 2>after laboring for two days with both of them, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man, rest in both worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Noah was really really tough recovery. It took

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<v Speaker 2>me a long time to run. It took me a

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<v Speaker 2>long time to get back, and I still am not

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<v Speaker 2>at the peak physical fitness that I was, like even

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<v Speaker 2>eight months after having Nico, So it's been a much

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<v Speaker 2>longer road and it is frustrating, like some days I

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<v Speaker 2>just won't have it. And it's very frustrating as an

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<v Speaker 2>elite athlete to know that you still have the capability

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<v Speaker 2>inside you, but it's so dependent on like what else

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<v Speaker 2>I've got going on, like whether or not I got

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<v Speaker 2>a good night's sleep, or whether or not I've been

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<v Speaker 2>able to get enough water or all this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's always been that way as an athlete, but

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<v Speaker 2>now it's even more so so, like if I have

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<v Speaker 2>a rough night with the kids, I'm now what a

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<v Speaker 2>tenth behind the fastest pushers, where if I have a

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<v Speaker 2>great night and if youthing goes well, then I can

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<v Speaker 2>be even closer. So it's just going in there day

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<v Speaker 2>after day and just putting in the work, but also

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<v Speaker 2>realizing that, you know, I've accomplished so much in my

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<v Speaker 2>career and all of this is opportunity. Like I've got

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to go out there and do something cool,

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<v Speaker 2>do something special, and some days it's going to work

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<v Speaker 2>out and some days it's not. And just keeping that perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, this is a really cool experience. Not many

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<v Speaker 2>people say they've been able to compete in elite sport

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<v Speaker 2>at the age of forty with two kids. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just go out there and do what I can every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Gratitude practice. That's good. It's very smart. Keeps you grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>Fellow Bob's letter Fellow tam Usa Bob's letter. Kaylie Humphries

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<v Speaker 1>is currently in the middle of that journey. She's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back from baby. Have you spoken to her, given her

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<v Speaker 1>any advice, maybe about some potential speed bumps she might

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<v Speaker 1>not have thought of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny. I just encourage her and try to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage her. And then recently we raced in a track

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<v Speaker 2>at Eagles, Austria, and it really is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>tracks like this is the worst track to come back

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<v Speaker 2>from postpartum because it's what we call a pusher's track

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<v Speaker 2>and the start time matters so much there. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I just congratulated her on getting through that race because

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<v Speaker 2>that was the race like you dread postpartum because you're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in I'm not in the bus shape yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really going to take a hit on the rankings,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, she came back and competed, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we share stories sometimes about what it's like for the

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<v Speaker 2>kids to be up at night and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and now having been through that experience twice, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to help her in any way I can,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know how difficult it is just to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and just to figure out like the day to

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<v Speaker 2>day of what it's like. And even for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're traveling all a different place every week with our kids,

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 2>driving sometimes eight hours in the car with a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>stopping for breastfeeding, all this kind of stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 2>try to share as many tips as possible with her

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<v Speaker 2>and just try and encourage her. Like some days it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to suck, but it will be OK.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned your nanny. In some women's sports in

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<v Speaker 1>like the major leagues WNBA and WSL childcare cover just

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a part of player compensation. How does it

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<v Speaker 1>work for bob'slod Is that your personal expense? Does USA

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<v Speaker 1>bob sut help cover the cost for traveling and other things.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a personal expense, USA Bobs I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>afford to cover its whole team, let alone a nanny,

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a personal expense and it's big personal expense,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's the same, like you find ways to make

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<v Speaker 2>it work. Unfortunately, like I knew this was a possibility

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<v Speaker 2>after twenty towy two games because I was pregnant in

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<v Speaker 2>those games, so surprise, surprise, didn't know that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was a possibility after the twenty twenty two games.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically it just saved prize money that I had

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<v Speaker 2>from those games to try and stretch it out to

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<v Speaker 2>make it work. And you know, it's just it is

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<v Speaker 2>a big expense, but at the same time, my kids

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<v Speaker 2>are worth it, and I want them to have an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to see the world and to travel with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and also to see what it looks like for not

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<v Speaker 2>only me, but all the women to compete at a

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<v Speaker 2>high level. You know, I'm raising two boys, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so important for me that they have strong female role models.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're going to have strong male role models.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband's one of them, like my father. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have so many strong male models. It's important for

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<v Speaker 2>me that they also see women going out there being

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<v Speaker 2>professional athletes, being the elite at their sport, and doing

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<v Speaker 2>it while being a mother as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you made history in twenty fifteen when you became

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<v Speaker 1>the first woman to earn a spot on the US

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<v Speaker 1>national team competing with the men as a four man

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<v Speaker 1>pop sled pilot, and then you went on to become

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<v Speaker 1>the first woman to win a medal in international competition

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<v Speaker 1>in a men's event. You did so on a team

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<v Speaker 1>with your husband, Nick, who's a fellow Bob's letter. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about that. What did you learn, What did you

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<v Speaker 1>get from the experience. Why did you want to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, I just wanted to do it because it

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<v Speaker 2>just never made sense to me why women couldn't drive

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<v Speaker 2>a fore man I mean, you had me as an

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic medalist at the time, and there's so much opposition

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<v Speaker 2>in Kille Humphries too trying to drive these for me

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<v Speaker 2>and like, no, no, no, you can't. Women can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop possible, you can't drive these sleds. And then you're

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<v Speaker 2>just letting any guy, random guy who's driven a bob

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<v Speaker 2>sled maybe once track a Horman down the hill. It

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't make sense to me, like that whole adage

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<v Speaker 2>about women not being able to drive. So part of

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<v Speaker 2>it was like my almost stubbornness and my own ego

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<v Speaker 2>being like this cannot be that hard, Like this cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be that hard. Of course, want to try it. But

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<v Speaker 2>then it became so much more than that, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>became an opportunity to do something and to compete at

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<v Speaker 2>the highest level against guys, and it's so rare in

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<v Speaker 2>our sports that were able to do that. But also

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.160
<v Speaker 2>it was an opportunity to compete in the highlight sport,

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<v Speaker 2>the highlight discipline of our sport, Like for a bob

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<v Speaker 2>sled is the show, Like it's one woman and three

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.719
<v Speaker 2>guys jumping in this tiny sled, getting it together, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the fastest sport on ice, and I just want

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity. The competitor in me was like chomping at

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<v Speaker 2>the bit to give it a try. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>had the opportunity, even though I couldn't get any guys

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<v Speaker 2>to initially slide with me, I could give my husband

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't have a choice, so he was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a ringer.

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<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't they participate with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Basically sexism, garden misogyny. Yeah, I even got asked, can

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<v Speaker 2>you even drive a bob sled? And here I am

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<v Speaker 2>coming off of a silver medal, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like you're going to get in this random person

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<v Speaker 2>sled who's never driven a bob side, but you won't

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<v Speaker 2>get in mind. And fortunately I had two guys, Dustin

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Greenwood and a g Adams that agreed to push me.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they made a national team because of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it worked out for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you look at that, Yeah, yeah, that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you hear from any of them that turns

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<v Speaker 1>you down after that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Of course, because they're still on the team and

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 2>still talk to them, and yeah, now it's like a joke.

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Now it's like funny and stuff like that. But years

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<v Speaker 2>later people would be asking me to compete in poor

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<v Speaker 2>Man just because they wanted a competitive chance. They wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be compete against the top guys in the US

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<v Speaker 2>and the top guys in the world, and they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a driver who could do it. And I'm like, well, guys,

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>guess what, I'm out of the game now, so you

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<v Speaker 2>better find somebody else. But I love competing in a poor Man.

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>It was so much fun, and I thought about specializing

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<v Speaker 2>in it and just going after it and just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do Foreman and compete against guys and make an Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>But now the way the rankings work, like women have

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<v Speaker 2>to qualify for the Olympics in both the monobob and

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<v Speaker 2>the two men, whereas men can qualify in just the

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<v Speaker 2>two men or just the four man, So our ranking

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<v Speaker 2>is combined, so they make you do both disciplines.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you want to do four me, and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to add in a four man on top of

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<v Speaker 2>every weekend, so you'd be racing three times every single weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just would be way too much. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cut us out.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the rationale for that for making the women do both.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. I'm not really sure you can do just

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<v Speaker 2>the mono bob or just the two men. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>from a smaller nation, if you're from a Nigeria, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you're from an Australia or something like that, you

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<v Speaker 2>could do it. But because our team's so big and

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<v Speaker 2>because we're so competitive, there's just no you need the

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<v Speaker 2>combined ranking. I don't really know what the rationale is.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's just the drive up participation numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this a team USA rule?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's an international rule. Yeah, yeah, team say our

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>rules still allow women to compete in for mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>so does the international rooms. I mean, that's what's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cool about Bob side is our four man discipline

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<v Speaker 2>is actually an open gender category. It's one of the

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 2>few sports that is actually open gender, which you know,

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 2>people ask me all the time about trans rights and

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<v Speaker 2>trans issues, and I was like, look, in our sport,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't make sense for somebody to come down and

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<v Speaker 2>decide who can compete because we have an open gender

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<v Speaker 2>category and to decide, oh, trans athletes are banned across

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 2>the board just doesn't make sense when we have this

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 2>discipline that's completely open to it. So yeah, I digress.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just one of those kinds of things where

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<v Speaker 2>fore men is the king of our sport, sport, and

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just something that I've always wanted to compete in,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's something that I think more and more people

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<v Speaker 2>should have the opportunity to compete in.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been an advocate for women in sports. You've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a number of issues, and specifically you've also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about racism that you've faced in the sport despite all

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<v Speaker 1>of your success, including a coach from another federation saying

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<v Speaker 1>black athletes need to stay in the back of the

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>sled because they don't have the mental capacity to be drivers,

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<v Speaker 1>and a manufacturer of one of the fastest sleds on

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<v Speaker 1>tour refusing to sell to black pilots has been quoted

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>as saying, if I wanted to see a monkey drive

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<v Speaker 1>a sled, I'd go to the zoo. It is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine making more of a case for your place

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>in the sport than everything you've accomplished. How do you

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>reconcile the reality of your talent with the opinions of

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>those people?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I think it's still something that I have

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to work on, and it's still something that I think

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of black athletes in our sport do struggle

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<v Speaker 2>with because still to this day, a lot of times

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.679
<v Speaker 2>when we're talked about, we're talked about for athleticism and

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 2>not our driving prowess. It wasn't actually until after the

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 2>birth of my sons and I slowed down at the

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>push that I started to get talking about as my

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 2>ability to drive a sled. So it's hard as an

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>athlete to not internalize that and to think, oh, I'm

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>just a fat, pushing athlete that could bang my way

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 2>down a track and not take that personal. But at

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, like I've won the medals,

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I have to have confidence in the fact that I

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>had to drive halfway decent to do it. Couldn't just

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>all ben athleticism, But at the end of the day, also,

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>who the heck cares, Oh, I won the medals. The

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>fact that my time was faster than your time is

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>all that matters. And so I try to have those

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>conversations too with other black athletes and with other different

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 2>athlete groups who are marginalized in this sport and just

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>tell them, like, you know, win's a win, take it.

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Every race is only one by one hundred of the

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 2>support who cares how you get there. And there is

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>still some racism that exists in the sport, I mean,

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>especially on the men's side, the lack of diversity within

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the driver's seat. I think the only people of color

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 2>drivers you see are the Korean team or the Chinese team,

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and that's it. Like internationally there's not much at all.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So you just like it's one of those kinds of

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>things where we need to continue to push it and

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 2>continue to get more and more people within this sport

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, show people that it's even possible to do

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>these winter sports as a person of color.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You've also talked about black maternal health, deaf awareness,

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>down syndrome awareness. When your racing career does come to

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<v Speaker 1>an end, do you have plans to continue your advocacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I thought through the longest time that I wanted

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to go work for the USOPC and to be in

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>that line of work and to you know, become the

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>CEO of the USOPC, Like that was my dream goal

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>for the longest enough time. But now having my children

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 2>who are deaf and now being so much more in

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the deaf world and the disability space and things like that.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>after Bob said now, but I know it's become so

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>important to advocate for my children and so important to

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>advocate for those with disabilities. You know, I don't have

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>a disability, so obviously I can't. I'm not the voice

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>of disabled folks or anything like that. I would never

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 2>try to speak over them. But if I could use

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>my platform in any way, if the only purpose of

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>me winning these medals was to spread death awareness, then

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty cool. And that's a greater honor than I

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>could ever think of. So yeah, my kids are my world,

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and you know, my world is completely changed. Like I

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't in these communities beforehand, I wasn't involved with them.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>But I've come to this whole new world and it's

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful world. And I never could have known how

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>beautiful ner diversity is and how beautiful deaf culture is

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>without being ingrained in it. And so I could share

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that with other people that I'm going to I'm.

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>A decade plus into a charity I started with a

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>young girl who has hearing AIDS, and it's called Here

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the cheers. We raise money for equipment and audiology services

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for kids so they can stay in sports, because most

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>people don't know that insurance doesn't cover hearing aids and

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>audiology equipment, which is wild. But thankfully some of the

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>policies and bills around that are being challenged now, so

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>hopefully that'll change soon. But I'll have to wrangle you

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<v Speaker 1>in for our next campaign and get you involved in

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>some of our fundraising because it is such a beautiful

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>space to work in. Next big thing for you, World

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<v Speaker 1>Championships in March and Lake Placid. So what's your focus

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>leading up to that event? What are you working on.

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<v Speaker 2>When in false disciplines two man monobob and going after it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is gonna be my last opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>win a World championship, and it's all my home ice,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's a great opportunity. You know, also though,

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>because it is to be my last World championship, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really looking forward to enjoying it. I'm really looking forward

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to having my friends and family there, and you know,

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get to in Beijing, so being able to

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>have my friends and family there and everyone there at

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>a home event like I'm really looking forward to it.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's still a chance we might be

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>in Lake Classic for the Olympics, so you just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just gonna be a lot of fun, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's one more opportunity that I have to really

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<v Speaker 2>throw down against the best in the world. And when

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 2>you have that opportunity, especially like now, like I think

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you take it for granted when you're younger, when you're

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, you're like, oh, yeah, another World Championships or whatever.

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But now looking back, like this is one last time

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<v Speaker 2>to show what I could do. This is one last

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<v Speaker 2>time to put on a good show and give a

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<v Speaker 2>good race. And that's what I really like. I like

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>to put on a good show. Like my races are

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 2>always close, they're always exciting, they're always intense, and I

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>have there's no greater feeling than being on that line

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and like hearing the fans and hearing everyone cheer for you,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and knowing that this is a great opportunity to just

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and show what you've worked for all

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<v Speaker 2>these years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, further ahead, you've got twenty twenty six Milan Courtina Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>If you make the team, it would be your fifth

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Olympics and you're currently tied for fourth on the US

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>career Winter Olympic medals list for all sports, which is incredible.

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>But you've never won gold. How important is that to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Before you retire.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important to have the opportunity to go after it.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I used to think the gold medal was the only

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>thing that mattered. I want every opportunity and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do everything I can to get there. Everything like

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>no hold bar. I already told my husband's like, get

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the credit cards ready, because we're spending every dollar we

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>have to next year to try and make this happen.

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Like whether it's bringing in a different nanny every week,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>or bringing in my kids or whoever to get me

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>some sleep.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Those kids are not keeping you up in that week,

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that month, whatever it is.

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nope. So we're going to do everything we can

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>to get there. But at the end of the day,

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I think how I compete is more important. How I

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and show that it's possible to be

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<v Speaker 2>forty forty one next year and put on this show

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>and to be a mom and to go out there

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and to stand for so much more than just sport.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>To stand for disability, awareness, for women's rights, for different things,

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>like it's important to show who I am in those

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>competitive moments more so than to win a gold medal.

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't take anything away from win that gold medal,

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I want it and I feel like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>one thing missing off my resume. By the end of

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the day, if I don't get it, I'm going to

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>be fine.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I love that if it sounds like you've done the

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>work to understand the gravity of your career, the worth

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of your career, even without that gold, because there are

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>so many studies about people who get that gold and

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>then realize that wasn't really what they were looking for.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't solving their problems, it wasn't filling the hole

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that they had for whatever reason, and there was so

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>much more that they had to go work on to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what made them happy. And it feels like

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you've already kind of got that, Like how do you

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>balance that great perspective that you have with having the

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>hunger and the mindset that you need to go try

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<v Speaker 1>your hardest to win it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was kind of in a ways, you know,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>the stuff I've been through with my sons, the stuff

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I've been through already as a parent and with my

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>husband and whatnot, And like realizing that, you know, no

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>amount of gold medals or no amount of metals is

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>going to get my son the early intervention services he needed.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what what how was all this for? Then?

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't get the services I needed, if I

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>can't take care of my family, then what is this

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 2>all for? So I'm actually at the point, which is

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool, is that the only reason I'm here is

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>because I genuinely want to be here, Like, there's plenty

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 2>other things that I could be doing with my time.

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of the things that my children could be

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>doing that time, Like I'm dragging them all away around

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the world. I'm sure they'd just rather be staying at

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>home watching Sesame Streight, you know, right. So the fact

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>that I'm here is generally because I want to be here,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And me and my husband decided that if I was

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>going to do this, that it had to be worth

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>my time, that it had to make sure that every

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>moment was going to be worth it, and to take

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 2>away moments from my kids that I could be upstairs

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>playing with them, or I could be doing different things

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>that I had to make it worth it. So every

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>time I said on the ice, there has to be

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason, and that reason is to try and

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>win that gold medal. However, when I'm off the ice,

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm off the ice. When I'm outside of the Bob side,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm outside of Bob side. So that kind of gives

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>you the perspective that you know there's more things going on.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And also you know, in the US, as much as

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>we love our Olympics, we love our gold medals and

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>things like that, but the end of the day, like

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>when I'm walking around Costco, nobody knows that I'm a

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Bob Slidder. When I'm doing my ticket target, the kid's

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 2>throwing a temper Tanta or whatever, nobody knows that I'm

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>a Bob Slader. So that keeps you in perspective too.

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like very humbling to be in the US and

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the country where we rain medals that you just one

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>of one of those faces. So I think winning a

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>gold medal is very important to me and my family

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and what we're trying to accomplish. By at the end

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>of the day, like my life's going to go on

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 2>whether I win, whether I lose, whether anything happens, like

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I hope to god I could win those gold medals,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, they're probably just

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna once I do, they're going to just go in

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a sack jur with the rest of them and we

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>won't see them until the next time I do, when

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the banner appears or anything like that.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So I refuse to allow that. We're when the career

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>is over, we're putting them up. They're not going in

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a soctar. I will not allow that. I don't know

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>where you live, but I'll find out. Okay, last question

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>for you. You mentioned that Lake Placid might be the

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>spot for the Olympics despite it being a technically an

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Italian Olympics. In February, the IOC said the track is

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>supposed to go through a testing process in March. And

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, in some sports maybe the venue is not

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>as important, but getting used to the ice and knowing

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>where you're going to race is really important. So what's

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it been like dealing with the level of uncertainty that

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>still exists in the lead up to those Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's most difficult things because number one, you want

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 2>the course to be safe and without a without it

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 2>being done with right now, they're supposed to do test

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 2>runs in March. Without being done without the proper testing,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>then you never really know how safe it's going to be.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And so normally, ideally before an Olympics, you know a

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 2>track has done at least two years beforehands plenty of

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>times to get runs and to test the safety of

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>it first and foremost, because it's one thing going fast

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 2>on a track, it's a whole other thing just making

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>it down. And we've had problems. We've had problems with tracks,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Whistler in Vancouver Olympics, where whether it's even Beijing.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>It's not a skeleton athletes. I mean you're talking about

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 2>some of the tracks athletes have gone down and had

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 2>liked altering injuries because we haven't had time to check

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>the safety or the safety precautions weren't in place or

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>something like that. Like our sports signing sports are extremely dangerous.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 2>So it is very much a concern that the track

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>isn't done yet. So I hope everything goes well. I mean,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>my mom's Italian, you know, she wanted me to go

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to these Olympics. I wanted to go to the Olympics

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and have a big Italian family celebration at the end

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>of it. You know, it was really important for us

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>historically to do it, But at the end of the

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>day it's not safe, then I don't want to be

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>anywhere near it, and that's the biggest concern for all

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>of us, is the safety of it.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's so frustrating. It reminds me of the

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 1>events in the Seine at the Paris Olympics, like this

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>is someone's entire life's work and money and time and effort,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and to have people have to pull out or have

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the race be delayed, and then the timing of your

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.439
<v Speaker 1>preparation is affected because they can't figure out if there's

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>ego lie in the fricking sin. That kind of stuff

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>infuriates me. So I hope they figure it out and

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>they get it sorted in time for you to make

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a plan and stick with it. I've just been so

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>fun to watch your success from Afar for such a

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>long time. It's great to get to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with the upcoming events.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, I really appreciate it. And hopefully we're in Italy,

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and if we're not, it's still going to be a

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>heck of Olympics in Lake Placids, So that'll be fun too.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to take another quick break when we return

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to be edified. Welcome back, y'all. Some edification come

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in your way because it's time for another What the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked to a lot about gender dis termination

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<v Speaker 1>in Bob's Led, but its sister sport, skeleton, has its

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>own history of backwards policies. Now, before we dig into that,

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>here's a brief on how skeleton works. So, one at

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a time, individual competitors run as fast as they can

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 1>pushing a small sled down a frozen track. Then they

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>hurled their bodies onto it, face down, headfirst and try

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to finish their run down the track faster than their opponents.

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Some scary shit. So the sport originated in Saint Maritz, Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 1>on the first and oldest natural ice track in the world,

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cresta Run. It was built in eighteen eighty five,

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 1>and back then both men and women competed in an

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>annual skeleton race called the Grand Nationals, But in nineteen

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, the Saint Murritz Toboggaining Club, which decides who

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>is and isn't permitted to race the track banned female

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>racers from competition. Eight years later, women were expelled from

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<v Speaker 1>the club entirely to boggining. Club president James Suddenley told

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<v Speaker 1>the BBC that concerns were initially about skeleton and a

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>link to breast cancer, but it was eventually understood that

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 1>folks were just concerned that women were getting too good

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<v Speaker 1>and too fast. That's some certified hatershit. But in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>wrongs were righted. In December of that year, Saint Murritz

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Tobognan club members voted to nix the band on women

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<v Speaker 1>and in February twenty twenty four women raced in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cresta Runs Ladies Grand National Event once more. English writer

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<v Speaker 1>seen it before, go watch Vanetta Flowers and Jill Bochin's

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<v Speaker 1>gold medal winning run from O two. Watching that sled

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<v Speaker 1>pickup speed. It's a thing of beauty. We'll link to

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<v Speaker 1>it in our show notes. We love to hear from yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Toto and Sunset, rating twenty out of twenty years of

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<v Speaker 1>fun review. This weekend marks the twentieth and final the

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<v Speaker 1>Heckler spring training trip to Arizona. So I got a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out my super slice husband Brad aka the Heckler

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty years of bringing folks together. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get adults to drop everything, whether it's kids, jobs, responsibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>But every single year a wild pack of hyaenas aged

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty five to sixty five would somehow make it

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<v Speaker 1>work because Brad created something truly special. Old friends partying

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<v Speaker 1>alongside new friends, partying alongside folks who signed up for

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<v Speaker 1>the trip solo, not knowing a soul, and found that

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<v Speaker 1>they immediately became part of the family. You're a gem, Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>and your trips were the highlight of the year for

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of folks. You should be very proud.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's to one last round of sunshine and beer

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<v Speaker 1>and barbecue and thunderdrug and baseball and Africa by Toto

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<v Speaker 1>and Sunset. May every single slice out there find a

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<v Speaker 1>community and a tradition as amazing as this one. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's your turn, Slices, rate and review. Thanks for listening, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>See you next week. Good game, Milana, Good game, Vanetta.

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