1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Surely that is the discussion here, how to understand what 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: national security is, how to correctly regulate technology at a 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: time where people are talking about the potential influence of 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: We turned out to someone who is brave. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: Enough to make the commute directly from the inauguration festivities 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: in Washington, DC to the alpine vistas of Davos, Switzerland, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders joining us now here in Davos. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: I am wondering, Governor Sanders, given the fact that a 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: lot of people didn't decide to make that journey, are 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: you acting like an ambassador, fielding a lot of questions? 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: What are some of the questions people have for you? 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: Certainly don't need an ambassador. President Trump will address the 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: group here today, although he can't be here in person, 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 3: certainly dominating almost every conversation, but. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Not just here. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Across the globe, I think there is so much excitement, 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: so much optim about him coming back into the White House. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: People across the world are. 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: Excited to see what he's going to do, and he's 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: hit the ground running and gotten a lot done in 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: a short amount of time. This is somebody who now 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: is coming in as a seasoned veteran. He has been 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: there before, and there's no learning curve. He is getting 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: a lot of things done and in short order, and 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: the people are excited to see what's happening. 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: Henry was just talking about some of the discussions around 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: TikTok last night on Fox News and this question around 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: what is national security? How do you adequately regulate big 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: tech when you have also this focus on celebrating the 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: national champions of US tech companies. You're here to talk 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: about tech, how do you reconcile that you know. 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: One of the things that we're looking at, and certainly 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: one of the places that we're leading in Arkansas and 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: as governor, is you can protect national security. You can 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: look at continuing to grow some of the technology and innovation. 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: But one of the places I think that we have 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: to do a better job is on our young people. 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: We've seen a mental health crisis take place and nobody 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: is immune from it, and so one of the things 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: that we can do is a better job protecting the 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: young people from constant access and infiltration of NonStop device 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: in their hand. They still need to get outside, They 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: still need to pay attention in class. That's one of 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: the things we've been doing in Arkansas, one of the 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: things that we've talked about here, and I think one 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: of the things that I hope to see the United 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: States lead on. 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: And as a mother and someone who sees a lot 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: of children, and I think there are a lot of 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: people who would. 53 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Agree with you. 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: There is this large attention though, and last night we 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 2: really saw that display when President Trump was talking about 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: they're just a bunch of kids looking at some silly videos. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: Do we really need to care about that so much? 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that premise? Or is this something 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: that goes to national security but also the heart of 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: something else about what it means to have appropriate technology. 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Certainly, there can be a great resource in technology. It's 62 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: a tool that a lot of us used to I 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: think one of the reasons that Donald Trump became president 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: is because he was able to use technology to get 65 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: his own message out and go around the mainstream media 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: and talk directly. 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: To the people. And so I think it can be 68 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: a great tool. 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: However, it can't be something that our kids are spending 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: ten hours a day doing. 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I think that we. 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: Have to look at one of the things we're talking 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: about a lot, the pressure, the anxiety, the depression, the 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: suicide rates that have skyrocketed in large part because a 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: total access and connection to social media, and so protecting 76 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: kids I think has to be one of the big 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: topics of conversation. 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Do you think the President Trump agrees? 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: You know, that's a conversation I haven't had with him, 80 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: but it's something certainly that I look forward to talking 81 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: about with him as he takes the reins here. 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: At the White House. 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Do you think there is clarity about what national security 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: is and what isn't. 85 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: I think there are some big differences in kids versus 86 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: national security, and whether or not they can focus in 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: the classroom, and whether or not other countries are taking 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: all of our data. 89 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Those are very different conversations. 90 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: This is a president who I know cares a lot 91 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: about protecting American interest and is always going to do 92 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: what is necessary to protect our country. You've seen him 93 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: taking action on day one, so I have no doubt, 94 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: no concern over that. 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: One of the things I do think that has. 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: To be a greater part of the discussion is the 97 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: mental health impact that it is having on young people. 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: You're on two panels. One of them is talking about this. 99 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: The other one is with Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer, who 100 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: is a Democrat, and I believe you guys are staying 101 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: in a similar place and imagining the sharks and jets 102 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: walking past each other. It's a panel about the role 103 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: of governors and states in a presidential transition in implementing policy. 104 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: And this comes at a time where President Trump has 105 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: basically said get on board or face the consequences. Do 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: you think that that is the right way to get 107 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: states on board? 108 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I have a great partnership. 109 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: I want Arkansas to be one of the leaders of 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: a lot of the initiatives of the president is pushing 111 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: We're going to be one of the biggest champions, and 112 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: I want us to be a place of innovation and 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: use Arkansas as a pilot for some of the programs 114 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: that we're rolling out. I think on healthcare, there is 115 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity to do things in a better 116 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: way than what we've done, and I think this is 117 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 3: a president that's going to be able to do that. 118 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: A good relationship with the states. 119 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Is a good thing. 120 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: We shouldn't be in constant battle between the federal government 121 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: and our state governments, and. 122 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that you'll see 123 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: both of us talk about how we can have. 124 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 3: Good cooperation and get things done that benefit the people 125 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: that we govern. 126 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: Do you think it's a good precedent for funding to 127 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: be withdrawn though, from states that don't comply with certain 128 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: orders from the president? 129 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: Look, I am in agreement with where the president is 130 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: and the things that he's trying to do, and I 131 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: think we're going to be able to not only improve 132 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: things happening in Arkansas, but hopefully things happening in all 133 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: fifty states. This is a president who's coming in with 134 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: a huge mandate. People want to see his policies enacted. 135 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: They know exactly what they signed up for because they've 136 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 3: seen his leadership style and one in an overwhelming margin, 137 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: and that's what people are hoping. He's going to come 138 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: in and deliver on all the things that he's been 139 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: talking about over the last couple of years. 140 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: Have you talked with Governor Visher yet? 141 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 3: I haven't yet, but I'm looking forward to spend some 142 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: time with him this afternoon. 143 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: But you guys, both are the children of governors, I believe, 144 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: and you both are coming to the stage, but from 145 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: opposite sides, one Democrat yourself a Republican. 146 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Do you expect it to be collegial, Do. 147 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: You expect it to be a working together kind of feeling, 148 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: or do you feel like that divide is getting more entrenched. 149 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that governors have a unique perspective, and 150 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: certainly I want to promote and bring business and economic 151 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: development to my state. I know he wants to do 152 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: the same. But there's some common threads and some common 153 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: challenges that we're. 154 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: Both dealing with. I think that. 155 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: We'll have a great conversation. I'm really looking forward to it. 156 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: One other reason why you're here is sweet with all 157 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: these business leaders about potentially investing in Arkansas. 158 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Are there specific. 159 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: Projects that you would like to see finance? 160 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: So there's specific streams of. 161 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: Business that you think would be helpful to get international investment. 162 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: Certainly, one of the biggest areas of growth in our 163 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 3: state is aerospace and defense. It's now the number one 164 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: export from Arkansas. Arkansas has the best economic growth of 165 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: any state in the country over the last year. We're 166 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: the number one state for people to move into anywhere 167 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: in the country. There's a lot of great things happening 168 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: in our state. We like to tout that we are 169 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: home to fortune, one little retailer you may have heard 170 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: of called Walmart. So we're not afraid of big business 171 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: and success stories in Arkansas. And we have the opportunity 172 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: to meet with a lot of companies and let them 173 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: know that we're open and we're ready for them to 174 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: invest and make Arkansas their home as well. 175 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: How many meetings are you having me? How much did 176 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: you get just an influx of people who wanted to 177 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: meet with you, And did anyone surprise you or any 178 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: places surprise you where they came from. 179 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: It's certainly a busy couple days, and look forward to 180 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: making them a really productive few days with a lot 181 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 3: of good. 182 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Things to take back home to Arkansas. 183 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: Are you concerned, though, that there's this feeling that maybe 184 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: the US is putting itself first of the loss of 185 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: other countries. 186 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Not at all. I think it's important. 187 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Everybody is going to be competing for the people that 188 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: they either governor or lead, and that's exactly what you're 189 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: going to get in Donald Trump. It's somebody he hasn't 190 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: been shy about the fact that he wants America to win. 191 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: There's nothing negative about wanting the best for your country 192 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: and the people that you lead, and I think that 193 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: people want to see him do that, and that's why 194 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: he won reelection in such a big way. 195 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Governor Sanders, really appreciate your time, and you're making the 196 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: track from Washington, d C. Too, Davos. Not many people 197 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: did that, Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders did