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Speaker 1: California postpones high school football and recruiting will be sent

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Speaker 1: forgot to watch. I spent all week watching The Wire instead.

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Speaker 1: are five here. Um. This one's from Slava to one

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Speaker 1: And number two, there is a Cadberry peanut butter bar,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, since you brought up Khalil Tate, Um,

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Speaker 1: Amsden's family. His his name Khalil Tate Amsden, and Ralph

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Speaker 1: you found out, Ralph, Well, he was released by the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And let's be let's be very honest here. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: You don't think? So did you him play? He would

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Speaker 1: school never not been a joke, even for non athletes

429
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: going back as long as I can remember, your junior

430
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: year is the tough one, and senior year you get

431
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: to kind of coast. Right. That's why people get senior

432
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: itis because there's not really anything to to focus on.

433
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: It's no longer you're you're no longer in an ascent um.

434
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: And so you know, if you take high school seriously,

435
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: you could be done in three especially if you take

436
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: two summer school sessions. You know, my my senior year,

437
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: I was doing nothing. I was you know, I I

438
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: I dropped out of high school my senior year. But

439
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: in the in the UH, in the two months that

440
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I was there before I took the took the G

441
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: E D on A on a dare and and pass

442
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 1: it um, I had like three prep periods and pe.

443
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, I was, I was out of stuff to do.

444
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: And that that's most students in that situation. And so

445
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: it's not that difficult. Um. You know a lot of

446
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: athletes have maybe a more difficult time because they're focusing

447
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: on other things, which doesn't allow them to graduate on time.

448
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: But now a lot of these schools that when they're

449
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: recruiting you, I know for a fact that a s

450
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: U is one of them that goes up to athletes

451
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: and says, hey, you will increase your standing as a

452
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: priority on our recruiting board if you can graduate in

453
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: the spring. So that that's been the game plan for

454
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: a lot of these athletes from the moment they started

455
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: getting college attention their freshmen and sophomore years. Can you

456
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: angle to be done in January? And now you have

457
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who were angling to be done

458
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: in January, who seasoned isn't even gonna start until after

459
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: they graduate. Yeah, that is bizarre, dude, That is absolutely bizarre.

460
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: Um And I think that this is all trickling down

461
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: not okay, So in addition to the to the recruiting

462
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: and all that aspect, it's also trickling down to the

463
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: colleges because the colleges are directly impacted by by Gavin

464
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: Newsom's uh uh, his his rulings and in his um

465
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: his mandates throughout the state where schools aren't opening, while

466
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: high schools and middle schools, elementary schools aren't opening private

467
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: or public until there are fourteen consecutive days of of

468
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: COVID number dclines, And so that's kind of trickling over

469
00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: into colleges. And we saw today that cal this side

470
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: it that they were going to go to all online classes,

471
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: and that was one of the things that people wondered. Okay,

472
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: if you if the schools are only gonna have online classes,

473
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: how does that then translate into football players being able

474
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: to be on campus and making well and playing ball.

475
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Because I think that COVID has really exposed what we

476
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: all knew, which is this is about the money. It's

477
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: not about the goodness of amateur sports and the purity

478
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: of college football and the purity of amateur sports. No,

479
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: it's about the money. They want the revenue. And because

480
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: if it were about anything else, if you are going

481
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: to have students on campus, then then the football players

482
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: are student first and athlete second. So why would they

483
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: be on campus? Right? And let's be really clear, this

484
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: is a different kind of greed. This isn't like we're

485
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: we've got the American spirit. Therefore we need to continue

486
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: to expand and innovate and increase. It's not like that.

487
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: It's that we have a system in which it's dollar in,

488
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: dollar out. Therefore, everything is based on this swollen, one

489
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: year at a time budget. And even though you can

490
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: build this enormously successful business, it's all fragile, it's all

491
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: in quicksand because one year and it all goes, it

492
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: all goes away, it all goes to complete garbage because

493
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: you're you're making ten times, twenty times, fifty times what

494
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: you were making fifteen, twenty years ago. But you can't

495
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: put any of it away for a rainy day. You

496
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: have to spend all of it. And so you set

497
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: yourself up to have this enormous swollen budget based on

498
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: the money that you're expecting to come in, and all

499
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden that money can't come in. What do

500
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: you do? So we've we have created this mess through

501
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: and I think that this might accelerate some of the

502
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: inevitability of detaching athletics completely, perhaps even setting up its

503
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: own like LLC or something that's loosely affiliated with the

504
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: school but isn't necessarily completely tied to it academically. And

505
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the direction that we've always been headed

506
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: as the million dollars became ten million dollars became a

507
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars became us talking about billions, right, because

508
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: that's not the reality of college life outside. And now

509
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: you also have colleges that have been updating technologically along

510
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: the line, year after year after year, and all of

511
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, every single one of these colleges is prepared

512
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: to be fully online. Yet they've invested tens of millions

513
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: of dollars, hundreds of millions billions in the cases of

514
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: some of these schools in buying land and building buildings

515
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: and updating their infrastructure, when the fact of the matter

516
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: is those things were slowly becoming obsolete the entire time

517
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: they were investing money into a system that was going

518
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: the way of the buffalo. So we're going to find

519
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: out that, you know, not only are we comfortable with

520
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: the idea if it gets us sports, of having sports

521
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: be separate from the student athlete experience, but that the

522
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: student experience doesn't even necessarily need to be what it

523
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: was as far as going to the university and having

524
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: the um having the you know, in classroom experience. Uh

525
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: that that that people traditionally assigned to being in college.

526
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, we're finding out really quickly that a lot

527
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: of these things aren't necessary. And I wonder if we're

528
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: going to take the natural next steps, which is some

529
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: of these schools selling off some of their lands, selling

530
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: off some of their buildings, recognizing that as long as

531
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: as if if you're cool with just the brand name

532
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: being on your degree but never having shown up on

533
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: campus because you can do it online, are you willing

534
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: to go ahead and do it that way? Maybe you

535
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: can start your life a little bit earlier. Maybe you

536
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: can start your career a little bit earlier. And then

537
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: are we comfortable with with athletes, um, you know who

538
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: who were young essentially being in a minor league instead

539
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: of in in a college experience. And I think that

540
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: people are sports starved enough where they realized that all

541
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: of those ties that we thought were so precious, um

542
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: pale in comparison to just our desire to have that

543
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: competition there in in the first place. You know, we

544
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: could be moving to a completely different landscape. This pandemic

545
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: could be the catalyst for all sorts of radical changes.

546
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: So buckle up. I've been saying that, like everybody keeps saying, Oh,

547
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to normal. Normal is done bro

548
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Like if you look at take take, for instance, the

549
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: restaurant industry, which figured out that it was built on

550
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: a house of cards as well, that you have so

551
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: many businesses going out of business after one month and

552
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: they've had to figure out a new model that you're

553
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna have innovations that that caused, you know, businesses and

554
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: industries to be able to thrive because the way that

555
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: things were done previously. I mean just just look at

556
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: before the pandemic, brick and mortar businesses that weren't like

557
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: professional services where you actually, like if you were getting

558
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: a massage, you're getting a haircut, like something where people

559
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: had to touch you. Those businesses were already going under,

560
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: like brick and mortar because you could order online. And

561
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: now you're just figuring out a better way. So real estate, Mike,

562
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: where you had commercial real estate for some of these

563
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: brick and mortar businesses, it's not as valuable as what

564
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: it used to be. So well, it's what did I

565
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: tell you? Way, we were having this conversation four months

566
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: ago and you asked if it would be ridiculous to

567
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: have games in front of no fans, and I think.

568
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, everybody who has a podcast or or anything

569
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: at the time was probably trying to wrap their head

570
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: around the idea of these games being played without fans there.

571
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: And I told you, not only could I envision that,

572
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: but I could also envision some type of system existing

573
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: in which we could add to the ambient noise of

574
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: the situation from our own homes. And what did we

575
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: have this week, George? Yep, you can, but you can

576
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: record your booze and tears to be pumped into the stadium. Nothing.

577
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Nothing is off limits. Anything can be tapped into or changed.

578
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: You know. I always was a little bit leery of

579
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, Arizona State was pumping four

580
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars into updating a stadium in which every

581
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: trend was showing that live sports were were rapidly decaying

582
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: as a priority for the American consumer, you know. But

583
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: at that but that that you have people who have

584
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: been part of the situation for so long that are

585
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: like no of course, and there you either have to

586
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: find a way that makes the stadium experience so unique,

587
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: like you like you almost have to before thinking about

588
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: the stadium experience for you to be ahead of it

589
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: with your up updates. So but but with Cal going

590
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: online and all this, um, the question is a lot

591
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: of people thought, Okay, so I guess that's gonna shut

592
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: down the back twelve season because because if you don't

593
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: have students, then you don't have classes, then how can

594
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: you play ball. Here is the reason why the Pack

595
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: twelve is not shutting down at this point in time,

596
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: because you have schools like Oregon and Washington, they don't

597
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: start school for ten weeks, so like conditions could be

598
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: significantly different or better to where you can go and

599
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: play ball, which will which would be premature to shut

600
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: down at this point in time. So while it is

601
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: noteworthy that Cal is doing that, and which means that

602
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: you're likely gonna have U c L a follow suit.

603
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: And then Stanford's gonna make their own independent choice because

604
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: a they're a private school and be they are you know,

605
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: they have their own uh you know, specialists, epidemiologists, all

606
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: of this that are that go to the smart guys school.

607
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Not maybe they can red shirt people for the first time, right,

608
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: they might actually act like a normal school. But um, yeah,

609
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: so the Pack twelve, it still appears to be going on.

610
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: But so when they went to conference only schedules. They

611
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: did it what two days a day or two after

612
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: the Big ten announced it, And part of that was

613
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: because of the nonconference matchups. You had Washington playing Michigan,

614
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Oregon playing Ohio State, so those games were gone. But

615
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: do you think the conference made the right move into

616
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote going to conference only schedules if they even

617
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: play or do you think it was premature and they

618
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: should have been doing what the SEC Big ten, I'm sorry, SEC,

619
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Big twelve and a SEC are doing trying to reschedule

620
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: opponents and all that. Ah, it's so easy to criticize

621
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: everything in the PAC twelve. Does we knew that they

622
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: weren't going to be the leader. We knew that they

623
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: were going to follow someone's example. Um, and so obviously

624
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: the Big ten made a move, and then the PAC

625
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: twelve made a move. And as somebody pointed out, I

626
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: can't take credit for this, I just don't remember who

627
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: said it at the time. But you have schools like

628
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, um, you have your your fcs FBS pay

629
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: games and a lot of those are done in state

630
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: and uh. And somebody who's just laughing at the idea

631
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: of like, are you telling me that it's safer for

632
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Utah to travel to the state of Washington than it

633
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: is to drive sixty miles to Provo. Are you telling

634
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: me that n AU and a s U is not safe,

635
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: but a SU going um, five miles to Salt Lake is?

636
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: You know, So some of those didn't necessarily make a

637
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. So you're gonna have no Colorado

638
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Colorado state, even though those two towns are an hour

639
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: from each other. But Colorado is going to be able

640
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: to go to l A. So you know, Uh, that

641
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: part of it didn't make a ton of sense to me. Um,

642
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: But then again, you know, I'm on the outside looking in. Um,

643
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: I I don't know if it was about saving money

644
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: for the pay games. And don't we have somebody suing

645
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: one of the schools? Yeah? Was it Portland's state or

646
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: somebody like that. Somebody's pissed somebody's yeah, and so, UM,

647
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so easy to criticize almost everything

648
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve does. I almost want to give him

649
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: a pass on this just because it's another conference made

650
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: the move which eliminated it broke a couple of the

651
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: games that the Pack twelve had scheduled and it's probably

652
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: easier to just say we're going all conference than it

653
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: was to try to get those things scheduled. Then that

654
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: hurts a bunch of the Mountain West schools, That hurts

655
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: b y U, that hurts a bunch of these other

656
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: teams who were hoping, um, to to get a game

657
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: in and get a pay day, and then they're having

658
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: to figure stuff out now, um and so you know,

659
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: it just put everybody in kind of a in kind

660
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: of a weird spot. And then to not to have

661
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve not come out and commit to everybody

662
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: plays everybody. He has been the most frustrating thing, because

663
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do this, then let's play everyone. Everyone

664
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: should play everyone. That that's I don't understand the logic

665
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: behind not doing that. It's big, it's too this. Do

666
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: you know who's not trying to do that? The the

667
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: SEC they're still trying to play eight conference games, Like dude,

668
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: you you cowards. I just cannot for the life of me,

669
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: makes sense of just just just get your games in.

670
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: You want to get ten games in, it's very important

671
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: play your nine I mean play if you can play

672
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: ten conference games, because everybody can except for the Um,

673
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: except for the Big Twelve because they only have ten teams.

674
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: But if you can play eleven games, play eleven games,

675
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: if you can play ten, played ten, you want to

676
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: get the maximum amount of games this, George, would you

677
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: rather have? Um? I mean, I know where I'm at

678
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: a percent on this, but I'm really curious as to

679
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: what you think. Would you rather have eleven games and

680
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: a conference championship or nine games in a postseason? Depends

681
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: on who's in that postseason? Are are are my ducks? Nine? Nine?

682
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: And oh? Then yeah, I do would like to see

683
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: them go to the college football Playoff. Yeah, I would

684
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: rather have I would rather have eleven games and then

685
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: just say the conference championships for all the marbles this year. Oh,

686
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: I would be okay with that. I would be okay

687
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: with that too, because you're gonna have so many asterisks

688
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: and so much like I am less convinced, all right,

689
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: So I am less convinced about the the the viability

690
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: of seasons because the further that we get into October, no, November, December,

691
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: what are we running up on? Ralph? Oh God, more diseesus.

692
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, I hate to be the

693
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: bearer of bad, bad news, but it is what it is. Um.

694
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: I want to see games, and I want to see

695
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: everybody play everybody. I do think that that's the optimal scenario, AREO,

696
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: and yes, some of these you know U tah b

697
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: y U. They seem like very probable and easy to

698
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: do games. I just think you just run a very

699
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: very big risk of being able to schedule. I do

700
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: like the conference only because it does allow flexibility, because

701
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the conferences can then reschedule and maneuver pretty quickly with

702
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: open weeks and reshuffle games and all of that, quicker

703
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: than you can with teams that are outside of your conference.

704
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: But I can't. I just want to guarantee that it's

705
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: going to kick off. That way I can. Finally, you

706
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: can I get a guarantee, Ralph, I told you believe

707
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: it when you see it. Basically, I'm supposed to start

708
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: in two days, and I still I am convinced that

709
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: baseball is going to start. I am not convinced. I

710
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I only believe at this point in time, because it's

711
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: supposed to happen in two days, that baseball is going

712
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: to play Opening Day. I don't believe any day past that.

713
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: I mean I'm living minute by minute here, buddy, I

714
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: get that. I just want to know, am I mourning

715
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: the out of conference schedule or on my morning football together?

716
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: Because I'm not gonna sit down and cry over no Utah, Wyoming,

717
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: no North Dakota State, Oregon. I'm I'm no USC Alabama.

718
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: You know I'm I'm not gonna sit down and and

719
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: and and uh listen to boys to men. You know,

720
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: how do I say goodbye to yesterday until I know

721
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: that that's the only thing we're losing? Yeah, yep, um, yeah, No,

722
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I just think you just gotta just mourn one thing

723
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: at a time. Um. I do think though. So here,

724
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. With the loss of the non conference games,

725
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: do you know who the biggest winner in all of

726
00:45:54,480 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: this has been University of Southern California. Yep. Usc USC

727
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: went from uh two losses to too for pretty much

728
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: for sure, losses to Alabama and Notre Dame. So they

729
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 1: increased their win percentage for sure, because if you take

730
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: two losses off, your win percentage is going to skyrocket

731
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: when you only played twelve games to begin with. So

732
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: so now presumably you know, like their their schedule looks

733
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot more manageable, because if you looked at it,

734
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: their games looked extremely difficult at at Oregon against Alabama

735
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: and then against Notre Dame, those looked like mindument that

736
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: it would take hercule, hercule and efforts to win those games.

737
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: And now you've got Clay Clay Hilton, who we found

738
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: out basically has an entirely guaranteed contract. I mean, like

739
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: nobody was like, what the hell was len Swine doing

740
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: playing golf? He came off a five and seventh season

741
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: and you gave a man a pay raise and a

742
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: new guaranteed contract, not sevent and now they can't fire him.

743
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: He's recruiting better. So everything is quote unquote but believably happy.

744
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: But they they won the Lotto, bro, They won the

745
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: Lotto by escaping their non conference games. Which one are

746
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: you most upset about? What? What? What game are you

747
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: most upset about? Losing? What? Oregon, Ohio State besides the

748
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: oh besides that Michigan, Washington for sure. Yeah, and and

749
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: everybody knows that I hate the stinking dogs, but I

750
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: was rudy. I'm a back to back twelve guy. So

751
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: this despite the Washington Oregon rivalry, if you play out

752
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: of conference, I'm in. I am in. I've written about it,

753
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: We've talked about it on this podcast. I am back

754
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: the pack guy, and if you are not, I will

755
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: fight you over it. Family at least, I'm Utah. Wyoming

756
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: was one that I had circled on the calendar well,

757
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: and they came from the Mountain West, and that was that.

758
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: I won't say it was a rivalry because it was

759
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: all Utah all the time, but it got it got

760
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: pretty got pretty heated, and so uh, you know, I

761
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: was I was looking forward to the reprisal of that,

762
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: and it was in Laramie. And you remember they beat

763
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Missouri last year in Laramie, and it would have been

764
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: a one of the earlier looks at at Utah. And

765
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm super curious about what they're gonna look like. But

766
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: the one that I'm mourning the absolute most kind of

767
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: an off the radar game. Todd Graham returns to Tucson, Oh.

768
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna yeah that it was his last regular

769
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: season game was against University of Arizona, and then he

770
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: did coach the Bowl. But then his first game back

771
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: was going to be against the University of Arizona, and

772
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be. I mean no, I

773
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, could have been a blowout lost for Hawaii.

774
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: But I just was going to be super entertained by

775
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the return of the return of Todd Graham and the

776
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: fact that it was happening in Tucson. Um, like, that's

777
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: that was. I was going down for that one. And uh,

778
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm bummed about missing that. Yeah. And then and that

779
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Texas Tech Arizona State game was I thought would have

780
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: been a good matchup as well. I thought that was

781
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: I thought that would have been good. I think it

782
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: was Arizona though, right Arizona State. No, it's Arizona State, right, No,

783
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, the biggest It doesn't matter anymore. Yeah,

784
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: it's over anyway over um. But Ralph, guess what time

785
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: it is. It is time for your favorite new game

786
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: in mind on the back twelve apostles, it is time

787
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: for it. Start, Sit and cut. This is where we

788
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: decide to start an item or a thing or a person,

789
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: sit one and cut one. And today we have two topics.

790
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: The first topic is baseball movies. So this is our

791
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: new feature. You guys asked for it. It seemed to

792
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: go well, except for I got be rated about a

793
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: fantastic take about chocolate and peanut butter being terrible together.

794
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: But um, but wait, when at what point in your

795
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: life did you learn that you had no taste? Butts, dude, butterfingers,

796
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: Reese's pieces, and Reese's peanut butter cups have always been

797
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: the horrible to me from there, it has never been

798
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: been at time. Oh and do you like to peanut huh?

799
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: So like a peanut butter cookie. No chalk of chips,

800
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: nothing like that cookie? Are you kidding me? It's the

801
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. We will then then we

802
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: we know what we have to rank next. Do you

803
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: not like peanut butter like itself? I love peanut butter?

804
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: What ah? No, no, no, no, I'm just I'm I'm

805
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: understanding my wife's frustration now because I just told her

806
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: the other day that the peanut butter and jelly sandwich

807
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what kind of joke, because the peanut

808
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: butter overpowers everything, and so it doesn't matter. Peanutter and

809
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: jelly sandwich is peanut butter and jelly sandwich. And she

810
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: has been talking to me like I'm an idiot ever

811
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: since I said that, And now I'm understanding where she's

812
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: coming from. When I have to deal with you not

813
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: understanding that peanut, butter and chocolate go together. Okay, so start,

814
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: so we will we will have the rink cookies, neg

815
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: and next week I will blow your mind. I'm excited

816
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, with with that one, cookies and sweets,

817
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: because you will get another take for me that you

818
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: will probably make your head explode. Um, So starts it

819
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: cut best Baseball Movies? Which baseball movie are you starting?

820
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: Ralph starting? Um? Or actually? Or or or would you

821
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: like do cut first? Well, if we can, we can

822
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: go cut. I'm gonna I'm going to cut major League three.

823
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: Anything after major League two should not have ever existed.

824
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: And even major League two is suspect not bringing back

825
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes. Um. But major League three I've got a

826
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: massive problem with because first of all, we don't want

827
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: a minor league baseball movie. We didn't ask for it,

828
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: we don't need it, um And and second of all,

829
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: like the plot is that Roger Dorn owns the Twins,

830
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: and I know that there's rumors that Kevin Garnette's gonna

831
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: try to buy the Minnesota Timberwolves, and that a Rod

832
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: took a shot at the Mets and I know that

833
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's is the majority owner of Charlotte, But Roger

834
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Dorn do you think he had the cheese? He was

835
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: playing past his He had to be in it for

836
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: the money. He was playing past his prime for the money.

837
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: We're supposed to believe that he had enough money to

838
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: buy the Twins. Yeah, no, no, there should not. There

839
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: just should not have been a Major League movie past two.

840
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: And even then, I'm Omar Epps fan, but I no,

841
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes kind of bothered me. They should have just

842
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: made it a different character. They shouldn't have. Um, they

843
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: would have been fine. They should have been like his

844
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: cousin or his kid or something. Replace Willie Mays Hayes

845
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: with with the with an imitation, Dude. They tried to

846
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: pull a fresh Prince of bel Air and go from

847
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: dark skin up viv the light spinout vivid. Yeah yeah,

848
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: so that that one. Anything after Major League two is

849
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: cut forever. Um, I am cutting Field of Dreams. It

850
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: is a it's it's a good movie. If you build it,

851
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: they will come. But it's a movie that you only

852
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: really need to see one time. So after you see it,

853
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: you get all emotional, like you feel good, good about it.

854
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: You put it away. It's not a movie that you

855
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: need to see more than one time. So I am

856
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: cutting a Kevin Costner and Field of Dreams. Despite I

857
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: believe it being a good movie, I don't need to

858
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: see it again. Like I feel the Dreams is on,

859
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: I am not watching it again, but the But there

860
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: are plenty of other baseball movies that I would happily

861
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: watch again. I would watch forty two a billion times.

862
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: I would watch The Bad News Bears before I watched that.

863
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there are countless baseball movies that I will

864
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: watch before I watch Fill the Dreams again. Ralph, Field

865
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: of Dreams most misquoted movie of all time. And you

866
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: even did it. You even did it. Uh, it's if

867
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: you build it, he will come. The assumption was always

868
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: because it was like people will come and watch baseball here,

869
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: but it was his dad would come back. I think, right. Um,

870
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: actually the exact let me tell you what the exact

871
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: quote is. It is, if you build it, he will come. Yeah,

872
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: I've only every way to go, smart guy. Well, but

873
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: because I've only ever heard people say if you build it,

874
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: they will come, And I'm like, I don't think that's

875
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: from the movie. Correct, it has to be the most Yeah,

876
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: because if you if you said, if you build it,

877
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: he will come, people be like, what is that? Like,

878
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: that's how misquoted it is. That's how ingrained in just

879
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: the changed the entire movie. Okay, so who are you

880
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: what are you sitting? I'm gonna sit Angels in the

881
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: outfield because while I have fond memories of that movie,

882
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: it does not stand up to the test of time. Um.

883
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I definitely glossed over the

884
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: foster care portion of the plot. Now as a dad,

885
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: knowing that the entire plot was predicated on um on

886
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Roger Bowman and his friend j P in the foster

887
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: care system. Roger asking his dad when they'd be a

888
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: family again, and his dad said, I'd say when the

889
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: Angels win the pennant and that God intervenes because of

890
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: this kid's misguided prayer, of the fact that he has

891
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: a deadbeat dad. Like as a father, now that whole

892
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: plot set up, he is horrifying to me when you

893
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: put it like that, when you really break it down

894
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, that is horrendous, Like like the kids

895
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: just trying to get his dad beat dad back and

896
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: his dad gives him such an outrageous take that he

897
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: doesn't think can happen. So he's like, yep, cool, I've

898
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: put him up in a position where he can't win. Yeah.

899
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: So at ten years old, At ten years old, I

900
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: was like, man, what a great inspirational movie. At thirty

901
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: six years old, I sat through it piste off the

902
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: entire time, and then at the end of the movie,

903
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: I was angry at God like that that should never

904
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: be your reaction to a Disney film is is anger

905
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: at the creator of Heavens and Earth. I'm I'm so

906
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm sitting this movie. It was good at the time,

907
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: but oh my goodness, and and and it's still the

908
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: best sports movie that Tony Danz has ever been in. Uh,

909
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the uh Philadelphia garbage Man Kicker movie

910
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: that he was in. Um, and it's always good to

911
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: see Christopher Lloyd and anything. But yeah, I can't. I

912
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: can't do this movie anymore. Yeah, I am sitting Moneyball.

913
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm sitting Moneyball because it like it showed the analytics

914
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: in baseball. Brad Pitt did a great job all of that.

915
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: It was almost like a documentary. But Moneyball doesn't win

916
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: like Moneyball does not win championships unless you cheat like

917
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: the Astros did. So, Um, yeah, so I'm out on

918
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: money Moneyball parts. I'm sitting Moneyball because I'm a bitter

919
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: Dodgers fan and it doesn't work. So that's why I'm

920
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: sitting it. Who you mean you mean? That's real quick though?

921
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: Since I sat Angels in the Outfield and you sat Moneyball,

922
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: which movie had the better cast? Oh, Andrew Andrew's inn Outfield?

923
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: Do you think so? Because Moneyball got nominated for a

924
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: bunch of awards, right, You got Brad Pitt, one of

925
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: the best actors of all time. You got Jonah Hill

926
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: as an up and comer, Chris Pratt. Oh so, I mean,

927
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: but then you look at Angels in the Outfield. Matthew

928
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: McConaughey was an outfielder. Adrian Brody was on the team.

929
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: So you've got two Oscar nominees. Oh yeah, bro and

930
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: and you yeah. And Joseph Gordon Levitt was the main character.

931
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: And you got Danny Glover Christopher Lloyd come on, man,

932
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: that that's back to the future and and Alite the Weapon. Yep, sorry,

933
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: I gotta go there. Um, who are you starting? Mr?

934
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: Three thousand. What Mr three thousand is the most slept

935
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: on base. I'm I'm a massive, massive Bernie Mac fan

936
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: and uh, and it just seemed like something that could

937
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: legitimately happen, like a diva athlete, uh struggling team to

938
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: where like, yeah, we'll we'll bring him back. Um. It

939
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: just it seemed realistic to me. It was funny. Um

940
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: it just deserves more recognition than it got at the time.

941
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: And uh, I just I miss Bernie Mac. And this

942
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: wasn't him at his absolute best. Um, but it showed

943
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: that if more people were willing to take a chance

944
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: on and put him in in these feature film roles,

945
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: that he could do some pretty good work. And just

946
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: the plot of the plot of retiring at three thousand hits,

947
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: building an entire business, uh empire on the fact that

948
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: you've got three thousand hits and then having it come

949
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: up that you actually never got there, uh and having

950
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: to come back and then going hitless in his first

951
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: like appearances and then never getting to three thousands. Like,

952
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: I just I love the idea for them. I thought

953
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: it was a super creative thing. Um. It didn't make

954
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money in the box office, but I

955
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: feel like it definitely needs more love than it got.

956
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm so ashamed of you, Ralph. I've said shame you twice.

957
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: I love Bernie mcma Mr. Three thousand. How did you

958
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: miss so many like great movies? I am going to

959
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: everybody knows those movies are great. Everybody to start. The

960
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: best baseball movie there is period, hands down. There is

961
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: no argument about this, The sand Lot. The sand Lot

962
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: is by far the best baseball movie. How on Rotten

963
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: Tomatoes it's further down the list. Is absolutely asinine to me.

964
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: It is one of the most quotable movies. You play

965
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: ball like a girl. Um, some somebody named Baby Ruth

966
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: signed it. This is absolutely one of the best baseball movies.

967
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: It's nostalgic, it's funny. Adults still can watch it, and

968
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: there is no reason why they should have ever made

969
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: a SoundBite too. Yeah. I mean, that's a movie about

970
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: friendship with baseball in it. Um, but I'll give it

971
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: to you that that's to me, that's a top ten

972
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: movie ever made. It stands up. It's the cast is awesome. Um.

973
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: The fact that like the one kid from the neighborhood

974
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: made it is super relatable. Uh. The the whole kid

975
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: not knowing any of the baby ruth I identified with

976
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: small so much and that I would just pretend in

977
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: order to make friends and then you get exposed. But

978
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: the fact that like kids are super forgiving, you know,

979
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: as long as they can give you crap about it,

980
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: they're happy to have you around and have somebody to

981
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: play with. Um, the puking when they tried chewing tobacco,

982
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: that's definitely something I went through. Um yeah, no, it's

983
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: a that's a perfect movie. Yeah, I totally agree. So

984
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: with our start start sick cut today, Um, our first

985
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: thing was the baseball movies. Ralph's clearly off base with

986
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: with his But our second topic for start Sick Cut

987
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: is Pack twelve Offensive Player of the Year. Um yeah,

988
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: this is I know we have a lot of people

989
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: who listen to this podcast from different places in the

990
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: PAC twelve. Some of you are going to be very

991
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: upset right now. So if you do hit us, hit

992
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: us up, tell us how you feel. There's even a

993
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: link to leave a voicemail. UM yeah, if you need to,

994
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: and we will play it on the podcast if you

995
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: would like. So, who are you cutting for? PACT twelve

996
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, Offensive Player of the year cutting

997
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: your running back, man, I think I just I think

998
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I think that it's the most Yeah, that's not that's

999
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: not that's not a good because he might get there.

1000
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he and he doesn't have to worry

1001
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: about going up against the Bison defense North Dakota State.

1002
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: I think that because he is the statistically the best

1003
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: UM returning running back, I think all eyes will be

1004
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: on him. But I think all eyes will be on

1005
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: him as far as um the defensive game plans as well.

1006
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't. I don't think CJ. Verdell. I

1007
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: think c J. Verdell repeats his production. I don't think

1008
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: that he blows up, you know what I'm saying. So like,

1009
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to disrespect his talent at all.

1010
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: I just think that it's gonna be more of the same,

1011
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's gonna be enough to win

1012
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: PAC twelve Offensive Player of the Year. Mm hmmm. That

1013
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: brings me to my cut guy. It's going to be

1014
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: unpopular because we have some sun devils who listen to

1015
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: this and I'm cutting Jaden Daniels as far as a

1016
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: PAC twelve Player of the Year candidate, and the reason

1017
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: why is for the same reason why you said about c. J. Verdel.

1018
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: He passed for twenty yards, seventeen touchdowns, two interceptions. That's

1019
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: not gonna cut it. That's not even gonna get you

1020
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: even remotely close your I mean he would. He's gonna

1021
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: have to at least double his touch down output to

1022
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: even get close. And the team is going to have

1023
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: to be probably win the Pac twelve South for him

1024
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: to win it. And I don't see that happening either.

1025
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: So I'm cutting Jaden Daniels as my as the Pack

1026
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: twelve Player of the year Offensive Player of the year

1027
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: for Okay, yeah, I'm I don't. I don't really have

1028
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: anything to say about that. I think that if he

1029
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: repeats his performance from last year, I think it sets

1030
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: him up for a for a big for a big

1031
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: junior year. There's a lot, a lot, a lot of

1032
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: hype surrounding Frank Darby, his number one receiver, and that's

1033
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: that's really for me what it's gonna come down to,

1034
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: because he's gonna have a lot of young guys who

1035
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: who flash, but he needs somebody consistently there for him,

1036
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: and they expect Frank Derby to be that guy. And

1037
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. To me, he's your nine

1038
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: route ball threat and they need him to be everything,

1039
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: and I'm just I need to see it. I mean,

1040
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: I have a s U players telling me personally every

1041
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's gonna blow up. And it said

1042
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: the same thing about Brandon Auk and I didn't really listen. Um,

1043
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: but I think you has maybe more of the well

1044
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: rounded skill set to have done what he did. Um,

1045
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they're going to be

1046
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: able to get Derby the ball seventy eight times, I

1047
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: just don't see that. And if they he can't get

1048
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: Derby the ball seventy times. I don't think that he's

1049
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna blow up this year. I think he's still gonna

1050
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: have a very good year. But yeah, so I don't

1051
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: have any issue with you with you go in that direction. Okay,

1052
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: who are you sitting? I think I am ready to

1053
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: cash in my chips on Um, I'm on ros st Brown.

1054
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be the next great Pack

1055
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: twelve wide receiver, sure fire first round pick. He was

1056
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: just so physically dominant in high school and he I

1057
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I'm hearing a lot of things

1058
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: about how he's supposed to UM finally step into that

1059
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: role and really take over UM. And I think that

1060
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: it would have been within reason to say, like if

1061
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: he met his expectations coming because I think he's a

1062
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: five star recruit, if he met his expectations coming in

1063
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: and they're running this air raid, and if he was

1064
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: able to just destroy all of the Pac twelve defensive

1065
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: backs that he was going to face. There's some talented

1066
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: defensive backfields out there this UM this year, A s

1067
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: U and Oregon, you know amongst them, and then Cal

1068
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: and Utah have shown us what they can do. UM.

1069
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't, I do not think that he's going to

1070
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: live up to the high So I'm i'm I'm I'm

1071
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: sitting him. I'm sitting the idea that he could have

1072
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: a breakout year where he is the Pack twelve player

1073
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: of the year. I would agree with you. I would

1074
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, he was dominant in high school,

1075
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: but it's just not turning into that right now. I

1076
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: think he's a I think he's talented that he can

1077
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: be a game breaker. He just hasn't been dominant. Like

1078
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: it's not like where we're watching you know, Woods or

1079
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 1: some of these other USC wide receivers who Marquis Lee,

1080
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: but they would just feed the meter like you know,

1081
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: he was gonna catch the ball ten times a game

1082
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: and there was nothing you could do about it. And

1083
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 1: I don't see him doing that. Um, I am sitting

1084
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: a guy that and I'm sitting him not because I

1085
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: don't think he can win. I'm sitting him because I

1086
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,480
Speaker 1: think he's a dark horse. And that's your boy, Chase Garber's.

1087
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: I am in on Chase Garber's. Ralph is still needs

1088
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: to be a believer. He is my version of Caltate

1089
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: if you will, um, I will adopt him into my

1090
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: into my family. Um. And we know from last year

1091
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: Ralph adopts bad quarterbacks and I adopted good ones because

1092
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: because because he got Jacob Eats into last year. UM,

1093
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: I think the Chase Garbers took a big step last year.

1094
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: His maturity, his accuracy is overall good quarterback play, and

1095
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: he is a dark horse Pack twelve Offensive Player of

1096
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: the Year candidate. So I'm going to sit him comfortably

1097
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: in the second spot right now. Okay, UM, I I

1098
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: actually thought about I thought about starting Chase Garber's However,

1099
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: you did, I did I thought about it. Yeah he was.

1100
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 1: He he was my my, my one b um, and

1101
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm really comfortable going with my one a

1102
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: because if if he continues the trajectory that he had

1103
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: last year in spot duty, he could do some very

1104
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: very special things. And if he's good, his team might

1105
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: be good. And no one expects his team to be good,

1106
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: and so if his team is good, it's just all

1107
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: the shine is gonna head his way. And that's Davis Mills.

1108
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: I am starting Davis Mills as a potential Pack twelve

1109
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year. He completed sixty of his

1110
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,480
Speaker 1: passes in just eight games last year through eleven touchdowns.

1111
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: If they opened this offense up, people forget. And we

1112
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: mentioned on this podcast all the time the number one

1113
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: recruit in the country. That's who Davis Mills was. And

1114
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: if he lives up to um those expectations heading into

1115
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: his senior season, I think that I think I, for

1116
01:11:52,960 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: one will say that I at least was not surprised. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1117
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: I can I can go there, I can go there. Um.

1118
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: The guy that I'm starting is pas I'm starting. That's

1119
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: that's my question, is that the dude is that there

1120
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: were some you know, whispers about it last year. I

1121
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: mean truthfully, out of the candidates last year, you had

1122
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: Zack Moss, Tyler Huntley, and nobody else was so spectacular.

1123
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: Like I thought that if anybody was going to win

1124
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: PACT twelve Player of the Year last year, that wasn't

1125
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: a running back or a quarterback. That Pinas Soul should

1126
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: have won last year because Tyler Huntley was just it

1127
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: was it was a game manager, wasn't special. Zack Mass

1128
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: had candidate what are you talking about? Who Tyler Huntley?

1129
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, stop, I don't remember. Oh yeah, exactly. That

1130
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: was a terrible move and then Zack mar ended up

1131
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: winning it. Just it just wasn't a you know, one

1132
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: of those banner years for a skill position player. So

1133
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: and I think that Pine will actually generate some buzz

1134
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: because people talked about it last year. And I think

1135
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: the people were just so high on Utah, which turned

1136
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: out to be you know, they should have sold sold

1137
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: high and bought bought low on them um at the

1138
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: end of the year. So yeah, So he is the

1139
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: guy that I'm starting for bactwelve Player of the Year

1140
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: because he is the best player in the conference right now.

1141
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: I want to know who I need to bribe to

1142
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: uh for Utah to turn the keys of the offense

1143
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: over to t J. Green, because I know, I know

1144
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: he's not like directly in line to be, but I

1145
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: promised if they give him a shot, he could do.

1146
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: I just there there's a couple of guys from Arizona

1147
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: on that team that I love, and t J. Green's

1148
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: one of them. Sloman Enis is another. They got the

1149
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: talent to do some to do some stuff this year

1150
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: Utah does. But I just don't know if the way

1151
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: they do things warrants that type of recognition, like they

1152
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: had to manufacture this Heisman campaign for Tyler Huntley when

1153
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't even you weren't even the best player, most

1154
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: important player on that offense. So you know, I I

1155
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I think. And then there's some other sleepers

1156
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: that could find a way. I mean, what if jeby

1157
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: A blows up in that Oregon State offense. I mean

1158
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: there's they won't win enough games for him to winpack

1159
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: to a player the year. Yeah, that's fair. And then

1160
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: we got we got we got dtr Um. You know

1161
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is that you and I could both be

1162
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: wrong about him this could his breakout year could come

1163
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: as a sophomore instead of I mean, it's all a

1164
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: breakout year, right, and he had his breakout year already

1165
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: as a freshman. But we're talking like if for him

1166
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: to equal some of the stuff that he did in

1167
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: high school where he was just treating the record books

1168
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: like toilet paper. And then I mean, what if Ethan

1169
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: Garber's wins that job at Washington and he's as efficient

1170
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: um or even half as efficient as he was UM

1171
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: as a high school senior. You know where the truth is.

1172
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: There's just so much we don't know. But I would

1173
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: be willing to bet that if if that, if it

1174
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: came down to giving it to a quarterback or an

1175
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, that they're probably not going to give it

1176
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: to the old alignman, even though that he's the best

1177
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: player in the conference heading in the next year. That's

1178
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: I think that's inarguable he is the best offensive player

1179
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: Penay Swell heading into the next year, that he's the

1180
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: If we held a pact toll draft, which maybe we

1181
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: should do. We got time, um, if we held it,

1182
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: he'd be the first pick, yeah, no question. And and

1183
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: if he comes out and dominates again, he could be

1184
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: a two time Outline Trophy winner, which would definitely cement

1185
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: him as one of the best op intive linemen and

1186
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: players in the history of the Pack twelve, which would

1187
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: be absolutely crazy to do in three years. Um there

1188
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: was a huge story though, well actually quick quick piece

1189
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: of news. Um I was something came up on the feed.

1190
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: The state of Washington has pushed there their high school

1191
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: football season back to the spring. That just came along

1192
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: the wire and not like January where uh California said

1193
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: there's is in quote unquote season three which will be

1194
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: going on in around end of February March time. So yeah,

1195
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: so that's when Washington is supposed to play high school football.

1196
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, so there's that. Um. So there was a

1197
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: huge piece of news that got circulated sort of kind of,

1198
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: but it got picked up because former Pack Twealth quarterback

1199
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: Rudy Carpenter. I'll let Ralph tell to tell the entire story,

1200
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: but he is he's very well connected in the Pack twalve.

1201
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: He has can um he's trained a ton of UH

1202
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: quarterback recruits. He and so that means that he knows

1203
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: some of the wide wide receivers to you know, he

1204
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: is welcome would you would you agree with that? Very

1205
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: well connected in the pact wealth community, very well connected. Yes,

1206
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: And he sent out a tweet which I'll let Ralph

1207
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: describe to you. Well, Um, anything that I say about

1208
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: our friend Rudy Carpenter, uh is going to be probably

1209
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: taken through the lens of me not necessarily getting along

1210
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: with Rudy Carpenter and me having blocked Rudy carp Order

1211
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter because the last time we were on the

1212
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: phone together, he uh, he threatened my life a couple

1213
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: of times. But he's a fiery guy. He played that

1214
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: way and he has stayed that way, quite passionate. Um.

1215
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: So uh. But basically, what what Rudy said was that

1216
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: a coalition of fifty players across all twelve Pack twelve

1217
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: teams was being put together to bring a list of

1218
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: demands to the PAC twelve that included like better COVID testing,

1219
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty revenue split um and and six years

1220
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: of insurance post graduation and some just like just stuff

1221
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: they're never gonna get right, um, which made the tweet

1222
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, alarm bells ring, because if they expect to

1223
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: get a fifty fifty revenue split when it doesn't have

1224
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: anything to do with the conference. When that's n C

1225
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: Double A rules on amateurism, you know, then there's not

1226
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: going to be a football season. So immediately you see

1227
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: Rudy Carpenter say that a coalition of fifty players is

1228
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: being put together spearheaded by cow players. UM, that is

1229
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: demanding all these things that they're going to sit out

1230
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: the season. Then your immediate read of that is, well,

1231
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: then they're going to sit out the season because they're

1232
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: not going to get a revenue split from the Pack

1233
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: twelve because that would require a changing of n C

1234
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 1: Double A rules. Regardless. The insurance thing is an interesting

1235
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: thing to bring up, but you picked a weird season

1236
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: to hold hostage because there might not be a season

1237
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 1: at all, um, you know. And then the COVID thing,

1238
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: COVID testing thing. You know, we've seen UM protests, coordinated

1239
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: protests from NFL players to ensure that more was done

1240
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: to take care of their safety, and that's an ongoing process.

1241
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: So it's understandable that the players would try to exercise

1242
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: some of their you know, newfound UH power to organize

1243
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: UM to look out for their own best interests. But

1244
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Rudy is the only one that tweeted this,

1245
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: uh Wilners on vacation, and even since he's come back,

1246
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't I hadn't seen him say anything about it.

1247
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: Every article that I saw online about this all sited

1248
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: Rudy's tweets, and only Rudy's tweets. So you and I

1249
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: also have connections all of the Pack twelve. And I

1250
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: reached out to cal players, parents of players, coaches all

1251
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: over the Pack twelve. I hit probably thirty different sources.

1252
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: Twenty nine of them had no idea what I was

1253
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: talking about. One of them said that he had a

1254
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: roommate who had heard second hand that something like that

1255
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: was going on. So that was the first confirmation of

1256
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: any kind that I got that a conversation had even

1257
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: taken place, which verifies Rudy's account in one instance that

1258
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 1: it was going on, but not in another instance, which

1259
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: was that they had a coalition of fifty players across

1260
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: all twelve teams. And then I had a parent of

1261
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: an Oregon State player reach out to me and say,

1262
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: my kid was approached about something like this, UM, but

1263
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: you know he he doesn't he doesn't know UM what

1264
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: he should be doing. He's just he's just trying to

1265
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: lift and get ready for the season. So is definitely

1266
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: a thing at Oregon State. It was definitely a thing

1267
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: at CAL, and we find we found out even more

1268
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: so that it was a thing at CAL because you know,

1269
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: after I tweeted that, you know, Rudy has a lot

1270
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: of connections, UM, and I haven't been able to verify

1271
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: his very direct claims, but you can't dismiss what he's

1272
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: saying out right. Rudy threw you forwarded a message from

1273
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: a cow player that was asking him to delete his

1274
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 1: tweets because it would hurt their efforts. And so Rudy

1275
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: actually and I mean, he didn't cross that player's name out,

1276
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: so we know that it's a CAL senior who is

1277
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: at least part of some type of committee UM to

1278
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: to have these conversations. I think what I ran into

1279
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: is the thing that Rudy presented as being an organized

1280
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: effort was actually so deep in its infancy that the

1281
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: mere tweet from Rudy Carpenter might have derailed the entire thing,

1282
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: Which is why you don't see any other journalists anywhere

1283
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: else reporting on this being a solid organization of players

1284
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: who are all approaching the Pack twelve with a with

1285
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 1: a UM specified list of demands which still could happen

1286
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: in the future but hasn't happened yet. I think that UM,

1287
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: Rudy essentially broke a story before it was a story

1288
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: which changed the future outcome potential for that story. And

1289
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: so you know, UM, and Rudy's in a situation where

1290
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: he's also the trainer of some of these kids, which

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01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: is readily available. He tweets of these kids all the time.

1292
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: It's not like I broke any news saying that he

1293
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: trained you know, Cal's freshman quarterback or anything like that. Um,

1294
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: But you know, it puts him in sort of a

1295
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,959
Speaker 1: weird spot as media and somebody who has a relationship

1296
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: with the players, uh, in that you know, it makes

1297
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: it seem like that might be what his sources are

1298
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I mean, you can definitely trust that

1299
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: he's plugged in, at least in some way to most

1300
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: of the programs in the Pact twelve. So I'm not

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: disparaging Rudy or what he were the news he broke

1302
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: or or anything like that. I think he just got

1303
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 1: to it a little early, which made it less valid. Yeah,

1304
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: I would agree with that, And so I am speaking, UM.

1305
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm testifying actually in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee

1306
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: tomorrow UM on name, image and likeness UM. And one

1307
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: of the things that we're he talking about is, you know,

1308
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,440
Speaker 1: some of these financial issues, and one of them specifically

1309
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: is about the well the the schools are in a

1310
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: position with these huge budgets to where like they can't

1311
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: even really afford to really pay the students and keep

1312
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: up doing what they're doing and now being a position

1313
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: to save money too. So the optimal solution is not

1314
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 1: for the schools to be able to pay the players.

1315
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: It's to be able to have the players make their

1316
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: own money, which makes more sense because then they're not

1317
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: employees all of this stuff, and they can actually um

1318
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: union not not not not not even unionize, but there

1319
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: will be a uh there is Okay, So the Players

1320
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:45,520
Speaker 1: Association has a group licensing partnership called one Team Partners

1321
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: and they want to represent college athletes and so they

1322
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:57,440
Speaker 1: don't have to unionize. They would just negotiate licensing deals

1323
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: on behalf and then college player can just opt in

1324
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: or opt out of it. So so that would mean

1325
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: e A could then go make the video game again

1326
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: in see double A and then players can opt in

1327
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: and get their royalty checks just like players doing Maden.

1328
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: So that's how that would work. Um and yeah. So

1329
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: but I do believe that the insurance thing is something

1330
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: that players should push for, But in terms of a

1331
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: revenue split with the with the conference, that just doesn't

1332
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: seem that seems like something that you're gonna end up

1333
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: legislating instead of trying to demand because they're like, the

1334
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: PAC twelve is already in a financial crisis, and especially

1335
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: with COVID as well, you're gonna have um the and

1336
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 1: these nonconference games gone. You're gonna have the PAC twelve

1337
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: at another significant, uh financial deficit because the PAC twelve

1338
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: networks are nowhere. You're an eighteen million homes and where

1339
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the SEC network, uh, Big ten games, Big ten network,

1340
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 1: they're everywhere so people can watch them. That's more revenue.

1341
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: So the PAC twelve is going to be even in

1342
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: a bigger hurt. So trying to demand something that you

1343
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: don't have and that don't need, that they're not even

1344
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: legally able to do is a is a non starter

1345
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, and I mean could colleges live

1346
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: on half of what they have now? Yeah, I mean

1347
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: they did it just a few years ago. Um do

1348
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: they want to? Absolutely not. They don't want to share

1349
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: time with these players. And what was interesting was to

1350
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: see the reaction to this was split kind of down

1351
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: the middle of where people said that they're spoiled brats

1352
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: for even trying to ask, and it's just another sign

1353
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: of the apocalypse in in in the gimme generation that

1354
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: we're um that that that we have enabled UM through

1355
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: giving them trophies for finishing seventh or whatever the whole

1356
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: thing is, and the other side of it was like, good,

1357
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: it's about time, and it's it's interesting to see the

1358
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: amount of people that sort of have that attitude. George,

1359
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: I have some late breaking news for you that we

1360
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: did not discuss before hitting record on this podcast, So

1361
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what you think. Uh. Citing the

1362
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: rise of positive COVID nineteen cases among people aged nine

1363
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: in the state, New Mexico's governor has formally asked University

1364
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,480
Speaker 1: of New Mexico and New Mexico State leadership to suspend

1365
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: football and other contact sports this fall. What do you

1366
01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: think about that? I thought coming, I mean, are we

1367
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: going to see that in other place? We're gonna see

1368
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: that with Pac twelve schools. Wait, what are you gonna have, Gavin?

1369
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 1: Are you you think Gavin News something's gonna turn around

1370
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 1: and ask California to not have college football. This stuff,

1371
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: all of this stuff is making my wife seems super

1372
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: Sae take a year off, dude. People are gonna have

1373
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: to run. I mean, truthfully, they're gonna have to run

1374
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: into a brick wall to to to do something else.

1375
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what. Like, it is

1376
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: literally going to take getting hit in the face with

1377
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: a sledge hammer for anything to change because the money

1378
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: is so like thee like it is. It is like

1379
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: it is like when you watch a movie and you

1380
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 1: see the bad guy or the good guy who whoever

1381
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: the whether it's the protagonist, whether he's an actual good

1382
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: guy or bad guy or whatever. The the pro protagonist

1383
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: is walking into certain danger and you know, and he

1384
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: knows in his heart that this is a bad idea,

1385
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: but he feels like this is the only option that

1386
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: is possible for him to achieve his goal, and he

1387
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: still does it, and you know what the outcome is

1388
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna be. So I feel like that's where we are

1389
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: right right now, and people can hope and wish, wish

1390
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: upon wishes and hope upon pond hope. But you know,

1391
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I think your wife is very is very sane. So

1392
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, we will see who's right and who's wrong.

1393
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 1: And I pray that I'm wrong. I am pray that

1394
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: I can come on here and say, you know, you

1395
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: know what I was wrong about this. I should have

1396
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: been more optimistic. I should have been way more hopeful, Ralph.

1397
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: And we're still and I mean we need we need

1398
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: to very like point this out. We're still deal with

1399
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: potential life and death situations. You know. I'm my entire

1400
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: week is filled with talking to parents who are like,

1401
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: you do you know how bad it is for our

1402
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: kids to not be in school? And I'm like, yes,

1403
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I have four at home. You know. I I schooled

1404
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: my kids all through the summer and I just got

1405
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: tired this week. And I have let them sit around

1406
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: and do whatever they want for about five days in

1407
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: a row now, and they have turned into terrible human

1408
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: beings right before my eyes because I I just needed

1409
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: a week off from giving them structure. And I need

1410
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: to gather myself so that I can dive back into

1411
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: doing it, because who knows how long I'm gonna I'm

1412
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: going to have them around, you know, and me be

1413
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: responsible for their for their education. So yes, I'm you know,

1414
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking to all these parents and I'm like, yeah,

1415
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: I completely get it. Kids need to be in school. However,

1416
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: the people that I'm worried about are the teachers and

1417
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: because they are typically closer to that at risk age

1418
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: range and brack it. And I'm concerned for these coaches

1419
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: who essentially, in order to coach the team, surrender the

1420
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: privilege of being around some of maybe their family members,

1421
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: their parents or whatever else. You know, They're giving up

1422
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: a lot in order to just coach um. And it

1423
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 1: just came I just saw word cross my timeline that

1424
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: out here in Arizona, Chandler High School, which people might

1425
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: recognize as being the school that you know on the

1426
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: football end producing to kill Harry and Brett Hunley and

1427
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins and you know, hamilcar Rashid and all the

1428
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: all these other guys. A football powerhouse, um, but they're

1429
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: also a big time swim school and they've sent guys

1430
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,440
Speaker 1: like Mark Jurk to USC and their swim coach um

1431
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: a beloved man, uh coach cross White. He just passed

1432
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: away of COVID. And that's the thing that I'm worried about,

1433
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 1: is that a lot of these coaches are in more

1434
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: of an at risk a drains. I think the kids

1435
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: will get over it, the college athletes will get over it.

1436
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do if we get football all

1437
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: back together and someone on Chip Kelly staff gets sick?

1438
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: You know what? How are we going to look at

1439
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: ourselves when all we did was banging the drum for

1440
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: football to come back. I'm well, I'm I'm worried about

1441
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: those things. I want football more than anything, except for

1442
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: the health and wellness of the people who produced the

1443
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: sports that we get to talk about. Yep. Agree with you, Ralph,

1444
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, And I'm just I'm tired

1445
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: of getting harped on for being the the the doom

1446
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: and gloom guy, you know. So we shall see. We

1447
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: will leave it at that. UM. Now it's time for

1448
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: our recruiting updates, because this was a busy week. This

1449
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: was a busy busy week from UM. In the Pac

1450
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 1: twelve recruiting landscape. You have had multiple recruits from different

1451
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: UM from from from different states. You have had teams

1452
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,879
Speaker 1: moved way up the rankings. The pack twelves recruiting who

1453
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: had COW had um more five star prospects. Then I'm sorry,

1454
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: four star prospects. Then every other team not named USC

1455
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: and Oregon combined and now they have one less than

1456
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: every school. COW has five four stars, and you have

1457
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: used Washington with three, U c. L A With one,

1458
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State with one, and you talk with one and

1459
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: nobody else has one. I think that's bad. It's probably

1460
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: it's probably not good. It's good for Oregon and USC,

1461
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: it's probably not good for everybody else. But at the

1462
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: same time, you have brought this up, George, how accurate

1463
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: are these ratings when we didn't get to see any

1464
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 1: these kids this summer. That's a good question. I mean

1465
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: we I think that we are going to see who's

1466
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: really watching film and who's watching rankings, because the coaches

1467
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: who really put in the time to find the kids

1468
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: that fit are very talented. Because you're gonna need something

1469
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: because some of those three stars are really supposed to

1470
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: be mid four stars, some of those four stars should

1471
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: really be bottom tier four stars are high three stars,

1472
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: and you were gonna see some of that movement in

1473
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: the summertime and during this season, because the longer and

1474
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: longer the recruiting rankings have been going, the more and

1475
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: more accurate that they have been been getting. Yes, two

1476
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: stars developed, sometimes three stars develop into superstars some some sometimes,

1477
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: but where they were at that point in time, they

1478
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: are pretty accurate with where they are physically at at

1479
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: that time. So what a you got this week, Ralph? Well,

1480
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I figure i'll just run you through. I'll touch briefly

1481
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: on um every pack twelve team and what they have

1482
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: going on. I'll try to make it brief. There's not

1483
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a rhyme or reason. I'm not gonna go

1484
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: alphabetical because I know that confuses you. George so started

1485
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the bottle. Hey, now, you're the one that admitted on

1486
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: this PS. Admitting admitting on this podcast that that you

1487
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,799
Speaker 1: that alphabetical order wasn't the way that you typically lived

1488
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 1: your life is now secondary to not liking peanut butter

1489
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: and chocolate. So at least you knocked that one down

1490
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: in the in the rankings, you don't care about alphabetical order.

1491
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: When your last name starts with W, that's fair. I

1492
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: got the A last name, so I'm That's the only

1493
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: thing I've ever had to look forward to UM got

1494
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 1: to be the line leader every once in a while.

1495
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: Uh So, Washington State did just land a couple of

1496
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: players since we recorded our last podcast. I know we

1497
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Jon Hicks UM from Las Vegas last week, I

1498
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: think briefly, but they also just got David goose Stuff

1499
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: from San Bernardino, California. He's a six pound defensive tackle.

1500
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: And they actually got a kicker out of Melbourne, Australia

1501
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: and his name is Nick have Herr. And so they

1502
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: got the special teams locked up. When I look at

1503
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Washington State's overall recruiting class, I know that one of

1504
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: the problems coming in UM for for coach Rolovich was

1505
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: that Mike Leach had burned a lot of bridges with

1506
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: the in state recruiting scene up there. And Rollovich did

1507
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: manage to get a pledge from a linebacker, Ryan Kershaw

1508
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: out of Yakima and uh Andrew Edson, a defensive end

1509
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: out of Snow Qualmy in Washington, so they do have

1510
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 1: to in state commits. I thought that with Rollovich coming

1511
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: over from Hawaii that he might have UM the ability

1512
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: to get some recruits from a state of Hawaii to

1513
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: come over to Wazoo and he has not done that.

1514
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: They don't have any commits from the state of Hawaii. However,

1515
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: they have people from all over the map. They got

1516
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: a couple of kids from Texas, obviously the kid from Vegas.

1517
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: They got someone from Salt Lake. They have one from

1518
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: down here in Arizona where I'm at, a few from California,

1519
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: and even one Xavier Young from Tallahassee, Florida. So what

1520
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 1: do you think about that, George. They've kind of taken

1521
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: a national approach. There's no no Hawaiian kids, and they've

1522
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: they've cracked open a little hole in that clogged pipeline

1523
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: into the state of Washington. I think that that's paramount, right,

1524
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: It's paramount to having a good program, I think, is

1525
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: to be being able to pluck good talent out of

1526
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 1: your state, because if you are a talent rich state,

1527
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: then that that's mandatory. You can't just be just like

1528
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: letting people come in and poach out of your backyard.

1529
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: You have to put tecked your you know what you

1530
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: have going because when you get big time recruits, mind you,

1531
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 1: if you're in cal California, you know you're gonna have

1532
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: some of the type recruits in the state every single

1533
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: year from northern and southern Cali, California will actually from

1534
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: the whole entire country. But if you're Washington, Oregon, you're

1535
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 1: gonna have higher years than other years. Arizona as well,

1536
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: but like you need to capitalize on that, Like Arizona

1537
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: State needs to do that in Arizona. Washington and Oregon

1538
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: they try to do that with their with their states

1539
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: because it actually it actually is like the kids from

1540
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Arizona should dream of going to Arizona State or Arizona.

1541
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Same thing with Washington. They should dream about being a

1542
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: husky or or a cougar. Oregon they should want to

1543
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: be a beaver or be be a duck, like that

1544
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: should be their first dream and then it should expand

1545
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: from from there because if you are are ingrained in

1546
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: the culture, then you are going to get some of

1547
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: these kids. Like it's gonna be a layup because everybody, man,

1548
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to play for I've been wanting to

1549
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: play for Arizona State my whole life, like and now

1550
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I got got an offer and it's a good situation. Two,

1551
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in you know what I mean? Yeah, you

1552
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: and you you brought up university of Washington, which has

1553
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: traditionally done a really good job in their own state,

1554
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: and the class of one might be Washington's best in

1555
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: state class ever. Uh And they already have six kids

1556
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: in in the class of verbally committed to them from

1557
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 1: the state of Washington. Their most recent one oh apprentice

1558
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman at of Seattle six four to seventy.

1559
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: He gave his pledge about about five days ago. And

1560
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: if you just look at their class overall, um, they've

1561
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: definitely got some size in some of their uh their um.

1562
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: The recruits that they're bringing in Robert worsh out of

1563
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: soake Well, California, six ft seven two sixty pounds. I

1564
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: got a four star tight end, Quentin More out of Independence,

1565
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: Kansas through six six two fifty pounds, and they got

1566
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: a six six to forty defensive end out of Rancho

1567
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: Santa Margarita in California, and Maurice Himes and so um,

1568
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: they're doing good on size and they're doing good in state. Comparatively,

1569
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: it's not the greatest class in the world, but they've

1570
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 1: still got a shot, um at a couple of big

1571
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: time kids that could make this a special class. So

1572
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: University of Washington seems to be doing well. Let's move

1573
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: on to the utes. Uh, this is this is rough

1574
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: to even try to digest. They've got six total commits. Um.

1575
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: The most recent commit that they they they had was

1576
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: on July one. Uh Diamikio Nathan, a wide receiver out

1577
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: of Grand Prairie, Texas. They do have a running back

1578
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: out of Tampa, Florida, so they kept that Florida pipeline going.

1579
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: And Ricky Parks, a five eleven, two pound four star

1580
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: running back, it's got Utah written all over him. Um,

1581
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 1: they've got a four star quarterback at a mission viejo

1582
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 1: in Peter Costelli. It's a it's a nice foundation for

1583
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: a class. But when everybody else has between twelve and

1584
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: seventeen commits and you're sitting there at six, when you

1585
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: um were close to go into the college football playoff

1586
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, it's not good. I don't know how

1587
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: they get better. It's on Utah to make the brand cool.

1588
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: Like they don't seem to be doing anything to make

1589
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: the brand cool. And that's what I think the issue is.

1590
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Who else? I guess, I mean, I guess i'd agree

1591
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 1: with you in that, Like those kids have no problem

1592
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: going to Lincoln, Nebraska. Lincoln. I've been to Lincoln. It's

1593
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: it's really not that that that bad. And it's not

1594
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: that far from Omaha, which is not terribly either. Let's

1595
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: talk about Stanford. They just got a verbal commitment from

1596
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Mitch Leiber, an athlete out of Laguna Hills, California, six

1597
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: ft one two pounds, that he's the fifth member of

1598
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: their class. It is not a good class. It is

1599
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 1: not a deep class. Um. Here's something that I do

1600
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: not have an answer to, and that is what are

1601
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: the academic leniencies doing for Stanford? Is the fact that

1602
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: they're private? Na A, It's dude, it I didn't even

1603
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 1: read I don't think I've read an article where they

1604
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: said that they're even like gonna stop using the the S,

1605
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: the S, A T and a C T. So so yeah,

1606
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 1: they don't care. Why does every single thing that happens

1607
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: seem to ad firstly affect Stanford, Like they are out

1608
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: there that Stanford is the fullback of the pack twelve

1609
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: any change, they take the brunt of it first so

1610
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 1: everybody else can get through the the whole. It feels

1611
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 1: like it just feels like they're always trying to ice

1612
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: skate uphill, and I feel bad for him. Who else

1613
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: we had? Well? Usc USC is building a class that

1614
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: is big and fast and fun and flashy. Is a

1615
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: usc class of old. Despite the fact that they got

1616
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,759
Speaker 1: six offensive lineman in last year's class, they went ahead

1617
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: and locked up uh three pretty darn good ones in

1618
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Maximus Gibbs, Mason Murphy and Siah uh Oh, that's a

1619
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: rough last name mapaka t lolo oof. I'm gonna practice.

1620
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I only get that one right next time. Average height

1621
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: six five and a half, average weight three pounds. Um.

1622
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: So they got some big linemen. They they the they

1623
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: just got a recruit who's going to go down an

1624
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: all time name team out of Elk Grove, California, Prophet

1625
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Brown an athlete eleven one seventy six four stars. Um.

1626
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 1: They have eighteen total amendments. They have landed a couple

1627
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:07,440
Speaker 1: of really really highly sought after quarterbacks in Miller Moss

1628
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: and Jake Garcia. Jake Garcia had one of the most

1629
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 1: heartbreaking tweets of the week. I think he said, I've

1630
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: yet to play a full high school season and he's

1631
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: probably not going to get one this year. So oh man,

1632
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: I feel I feel bad for him. You know, he's

1633
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: and he's transferred like three times just looking for opportunity

1634
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: to play. He's a fantastic quarterback and so that's no

1635
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 1: fun um. But the couple of the Crown Jewel athletes

1636
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: to this class, I would say that Anthony Beavers is

1637
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: somebody that everybody in the pack twelve one it will

1638
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how they use him. And

1639
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: then Michael Jackson, a four star wide receiver out of

1640
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, is somebody who a lot of people

1641
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: are really excited about as well. So there's nothing to

1642
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: complain about if you're IF. If you're USC, this is

1643
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: the best class you've had in a in a long time.

1644
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 1: And as long as you can hang on to most

1645
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: of these guys and at least one of the quarterbacks,

1646
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: then you should be pretty happy. Moving on to u

1647
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: c l A, U c l A has not had

1648
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: any commits since the last time we got together to

1649
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 1: do a podcast, where they do have two in the

1650
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: month of July and twelve overall. Uh Kyantes Lewis out

1651
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,759
Speaker 1: of East St. Louis, Illinois, six seventy pound wide receiver

1652
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and Garrett did Georgio, an offensive Lineman out of Feeling, California,

1653
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: six ft six three pounds. Those are the two that

1654
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: they landed just in the last UM couple of weeks.

1655
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,720
Speaker 1: One of the recruits on here that sticks out to

1656
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: me dj Justice Miller Moss's main wide receiver last year

1657
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: at Bishop Alamany. He's pretty talented. He's David Justice's kid. UM.

1658
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: He was the first commit in this entire class. And

1659
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: they also have another son of a well known athlete,

1660
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: Isaiah Newcomb, who is a wide receiver that they maybe

1661
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: they could maybe find a place for him in the

1662
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: defensive backfield as well. His dad was, I believe, the

1663
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 1: quarterback at Nebraska after Scott Frost, Bobby Newcomb, and he's

1664
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 1: a high school coach down here UM in Arizona. So

1665
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 1: they have an interesting class they put together. You and

1666
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: I were laughing about the fact that they had seven

1667
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: linebackers in last year's recruiting class. Well in this one

1668
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: so far, of their twelve commits, they have zero because

1669
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 1: they don't need them. UM. But I think U. C

1670
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: l A Is doing a pretty good job, especially when

1671
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of criticism around whether or not Chip

1672
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Kelly good recruits. So I don't I personally feel like

1673
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: they're they're doing well. Um. Oregon State, let's touch on

1674
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: them for a second. They only have six commits. UM,

1675
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I would say beat patient with them. I think they're

1676
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: going to have the biggest benefit of of uh. You

1677
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: know some of these teams that do get to play

1678
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: um because they'll have the most room and they are

1679
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: a Power five Conference school and they run an attractive offense.

1680
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: So UM, they have a lot of needs and holes. Uh.

1681
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 1: And hopefully they don't just take anybody just to take them. UM.

1682
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 1: But I think Demir Collins, the running back out of Portland, Oregon,

1683
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: is probably the gem of their class so far. And

1684
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 1: then they have kind of an interesting prospect in Alex Lemon,

1685
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: who was a JUCO defensive end who was at one

1686
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: time committed to Arizona State if I remember correctly, and

1687
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 1: I think he's been in JUCO a year longer than

1688
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 1: he probably should have as well, so he'll at least

1689
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,719
Speaker 1: be physically mature by the time that he he gets

1690
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: around to playing for them. I also am a little

1691
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: bit curious about the quarterback they landed, Sam vid Lak,

1692
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: two star on Rivals out of Grants Pass Oregon. There's

1693
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of good quarterback options out there, and and

1694
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: I haven't watched film on this kid, but I definitely

1695
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: want to check him out because, um, you know, they

1696
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: took his commitment and there's still a few options out there,

1697
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 1: so I'm interested to see what they saw in him. George,

1698
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: do you think that Oregon State will be able to

1699
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: benefit from the act that everybody else is going to

1700
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,600
Speaker 1: have kind of a full class before we see some

1701
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 1: of these seniors play. Yeah, and they're gonna have the

1702
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 1: benefit of what we talked about earlier. Some of those

1703
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: class some of those kids signing early saying no, I

1704
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 1: want to get in and have a spot. Then Oregon

1705
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 1: State is going to be able to get some gems hopefully. Yeah. Um. Oregon.

1706
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Oregon doesn't have much to worry about.

1707
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: They're currently sitting on you know, for we're using Rivals rankings.

1708
01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Twelve four star commits, one of which being Ty Thompson,

1709
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: who could very well end up being close to a

1710
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: five star. Um. I heard he looked fantastic out at

1711
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: Elite eleven. The offensive line recruiting in this class has

1712
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: been good. The linebacker recruiting in this class has been good.

1713
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 1: The wide receiver recruiting in this class has been excellent. Um.

1714
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: If anything, they need to maybe focus a little bit

1715
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Uh. What's interesting

1716
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: about out their recruiting class is while they have just

1717
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: star power all over the place so far, at least

1718
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: if we're going by the Rivals rankings, five of these

1719
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: commits are three stars. Two of those three star commits

1720
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Buckner out of Chandler High School, which we've already

1721
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the podcast. Um who who is

1722
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 1: the um son of Brentson Buckner, who is the Arizona

1723
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: Cardinals defensive line coach former Oakland Raiders defensive line coach.

1724
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: I think he has enormous potential to do big things,

1725
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: and he's one of their lowest rated recruits. And the

1726
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: other guy on here who I think is very possibly underrated,

1727
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 1: is I have two guys that work on my staff

1728
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,879
Speaker 1: down here for Arizona Versity that tell me that Jackson

1729
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Light is the best center in the country. You've got

1730
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: to feel pretty good if you're a Ducks fan and

1731
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,879
Speaker 1: you have told me that you had heard that they're

1732
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: they're still planning on finishing really strong. Yeah. Yeah, they

1733
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: have a couple of kids that they're super high on,

1734
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: that everybody in the country is high owned, that they

1735
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 1: do believe that they have a legitimate shot at at

1736
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 1: signing and maybe even the number one recruit in the country.

1737
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 1: UM Colorado real quick. They had a really strong recruiting

1738
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: year last year and then obviously coaching transition for the

1739
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: second year in a row. UM they had built some

1740
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 1: inroads into Texas, so I was interested to see if

1741
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: they were gonna be able to keep some of that up.

1742
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 1: They did get one offensive line commit from Minneola, Texas

1743
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: in Jackson Anderson, six pounder. More recently, since the start

1744
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: of July, they've actually landed four kids, one of which

1745
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: is a tight end named Eric Olsen out of Littleton, Colorado,

1746
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: who is actually really really good player. Colorado has failed

1747
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 1: year after year to use the tight end in their offense,

1748
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: so maybe this will be the time when when when

1749
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 1: they finally UM find a reason to do so. Uh.

1750
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: They did did to defensive back commits, one from Council

1751
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: Plus Iowa and one from Cornelius, North Carolina. So they're

1752
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: recruiting all over the place and that's a trust in

1753
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Oliver and Tyrone Taylor and they just got a defensive

1754
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 1: tackle from Jacksonville, Arkansas in Tias Martin who six for

1755
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: three d and fifteen pounds. What do you think of this?

1756
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: George of the University of Colorado's commit list currently as

1757
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: people from they got a couple of in state guys,

1758
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: but they got Texas, Nevada, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina and

1759
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: Arkansas all represented here. Let's talk about cow another another

1760
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: strong showing um as far as what they've been able

1761
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: to do relative to the success that they've had. I

1762
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 1: was interested to see if they were going to start

1763
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 1: cleaning up with defensive backs based on what they've they've

1764
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: been able to do. They don't have any elite elite

1765
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 1: recruits at defensive back, but I'm I'm a big fan

1766
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: of Hunter Barth, who is six ft two two hundred

1767
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 1: um is a safety. They could even grow him into

1768
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,879
Speaker 1: a linebacker. And I've heard really good things about Fattou

1769
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Valu Iosefa out of Mililani in Hawaii. I think that's

1770
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: one of the recruits that they're most proud of. They

1771
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: did get one four star tight end, Germaine Terry. Did

1772
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of really good tight ends in the Pac

1773
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: twelve footprint UH this year. And then obviously we talked

1774
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 1: about Achille Calhoun, who has made the decision to just

1775
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: go ahead and skip his senior year. They have three

1776
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: commits in the last five days. William Read out of

1777
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 1: some Amish, Washington, six ft six two hundred and sixty pounds,

1778
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: Moses Ala Day Joe out of Elk Grove, California. He's

1779
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: a linebacker six three to I'm surprised he escaped U

1780
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: C l A's grasp. And Dylan jim to Guard out

1781
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:49,799
Speaker 1: of Yelm, Washington, six four, two seventy pound offensive linemen.

1782
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: So they have started to pick up the pace and

1783
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: they are currently at twelve overall commitments and according to Rivals,

1784
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: have the number forty four recruiting class in the country.

1785
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: You disappointed by that, Georgia. Do you think they're They're

1786
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: right along where they should be. I think they're right

1787
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: what they should be, and they should finish stronger. The

1788
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: whole point is that you really want to have foard

1789
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: of five teams within that top twenty five top thirty range,

1790
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 1: but three of them in the top fifteen for for sure,

1791
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 1: and at least one of them in in the top

1792
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: five if you if you want the conference to really

1793
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: begin in the respect that they deserve. University of Arizona

1794
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: has kind of an interesting recruiting class um in that

1795
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: they have landed a lot of guys who don't have

1796
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 1: any Power five offers other than University of Arizona, which

1797
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 1: is always a little bit of a risk. But as

1798
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: long as your talent talent evaluations on point, and they

1799
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: fit your system, then perhaps you can make the most

1800
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:55,879
Speaker 1: of um of their talent. Uh they had a really

1801
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: strong week. They got a wide receiver named Tyrese Johns

1802
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: and out of New Orleans, Louisiana, probably the best player

1803
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 1: in this class so far, if I'm being honest, based

1804
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: on his film six to pound wide receiver. This team

1805
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: is desperate for help at the wide receiver position. Uh

1806
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:15,679
Speaker 1: Luke Eckhart a six or six two hundred seventy pound

1807
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Richmond, Illinois to star according to rivals.

1808
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 1: And they also just landed their very first in state recruit,

1809
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: meaning that eleven of the twelve pack twelve teams have

1810
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 1: secured an in state recruit. Stevie Rocker Jr. A running

1811
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 1: back out of Canyon del Roh High School. The same

1812
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: high school that gave them Cadeem Carey, former Chicago Bears

1813
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: draft pick and probably one of the best running backs

1814
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 1: in the in the pack twelve in the last ten years.

1815
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 1: Uh Stevie Rocker is a little bit different of a

1816
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: body type. He's six ft hundred eighty seven pounds. I

1817
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: would I when I watch him play, he reminds me

1818
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: Chase Lucas a little bit. I could see them moving

1819
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: him to defensive back. We will ultimately see what they do.

1820
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: Probably the best thing that University of Arizona has done

1821
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: for themselves and this recruiting last is they did land

1822
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 1: to graduate transfer defensive lineman Aaron Blackwell, who is probably

1823
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: the best um, one of the best edge guys at

1824
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 1: University of New Mexico and Roy Lopez Jr. Who has

1825
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I think thirty nine starts under his belt for New

1826
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 1: Mexico State and you saw New Mexico State schedule the

1827
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: last couple of years. This is a guy that's got

1828
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 1: experience against Alabama and and schools that are are big

1829
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: time and he held his own. So getting some maturity

1830
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: on that defensive line via grad transfer was huge for

1831
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: University of Arizona. However, they lose Tony Fields, which when

1832
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: I think of University of Arizona, that's the guy I

1833
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 1: think of. I think he's their second leading tackler returning.

1834
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: He's never missed a game and he's a three year starter.

1835
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: So that's unfortunate. And that's a guy that might actually

1836
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 1: end up at USC or another Pack twelve school because

1837
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: he he had said that it just the pandemic made

1838
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: him realize that he could were as options. So, um,

1839
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: what do you think of that, George, of of not

1840
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: really being able to hang out with your team so

1841
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 1: you get kind of a wandering eye. Yeah, the absence

1842
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: does not make the heart grow fonder. I think we've

1843
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: learned that in in life. People say that quote, but

1844
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean and according to you, I hope

1845
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm quoting that quote properly. If you build it, uh,

1846
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: your linebackers might leave and then uh last, And I

1847
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 1: saved this one. There's there's no bias here. I saved

1848
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: this one last because they had the most absurd week. Um,

1849
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's worth talking about. Arizona State landed

1850
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: five players in the last six days. They are Tommy Hill,

1851
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: six pound wide receiver who they might use that defensive

1852
01:56:55,040 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: back out of Orlando, Florida, lun Ya to Alexander six

1853
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 1: receiver who is um? His film is crazy good. He

1854
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: you and I had touched on him, George, I think

1855
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: off before we recorded, this is a kid that's probably

1856
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: underrated on the rival side. UM got a lot of

1857
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: size and speed and skill. Um, and he's at a

1858
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: Burying Washington. And then Martin Lucas, a sixty pound athlete

1859
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: out of a Bingen, Virginia. I've never heard of that

1860
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: town name in my life. Garin Stansbury six five to

1861
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: thirty out of Franklin, Louisiana. And R J. Reagan a

1862
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: six seventy pound defensive back out of Orange, California. Five players,

1863
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: five states, five days. What do you think about that, George?

1864
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean they aren't getting him from from Arizona, so

1865
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 1: that I gotta get him from somewhere. I mean, that's right.

1866
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: They are the only team in the pack twelve without

1867
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: an in state commit. This just doesn't feel like a

1868
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:11,839
Speaker 1: sustainable model to me. I mean, especially with with COVID

1869
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: getting kids, I think that you have set yourself up

1870
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 1: for a Ford commits all over the place because I

1871
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: think that you you're gonna kids are gonna want to

1872
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: stay more local this year, particularly as this thing progresses.

1873
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: If it continues to to stay you know, very very

1874
01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 1: active and high numbers and stuff getting shut down, people

1875
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: aren't gonna want their kids far away. So I think

1876
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: that Arizona State may have been overplayed their hand in

1877
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 1: but we schelsee, Well, what do you think of the

1878
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: So having been in the room where Al lou can Bill,

1879
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: their director of player development, former San Diego State head coach,

1880
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 1: he had said, one, and they want to get bigger,

1881
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 1: like that was their main goal. They want to get bigger. Two,

1882
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:09,000
Speaker 1: they want to evaluate these players themselves. They have an

1883
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: entire evaluation office. They ignore recruiting rankings altogether. And Three,

1884
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: the thing that they had said in the beginning was

1885
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: that they wanted to make sure they were getting players

1886
01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: from the Pac twelve footprint. Now they've thrown the footprint

1887
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: thing out of the window. They've gone national. They've got

1888
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: recruits in this class from Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Louisiana, Washington, Texas, Virginia,

1889
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Apologies if I said any of those

1890
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: states twice. However, not a single player on this list

1891
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 1: is under six ft tall and eight of them are

1892
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: at least six five, So I mean that was goal

1893
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: number one for them was to look big, get coaches

1894
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: that you trust to develop the big pieces of clay

1895
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 1: and the big works of art. That was the goal

1896
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 1: from the get go. They got a six eight off

1897
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, a six ft seven linebacker, six ft six

1898
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Speaker 1: defensive end, to six five tight ends and uh get

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Speaker 1: of football players. I mean, like some sometimes the best

1900
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Speaker 1: football players don't fit into the measurable package that you

1901
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Speaker 1: want them to. I mean, physical freaks do, but I

1902
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Speaker 1: mean like some of the best players that we have

1903
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Speaker 1: seen aren't. Aren't they like aren't gonna win, you know,

1904
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Speaker 1: an underwear model con football player contest, and that shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the goal. Like like like, yes, you don't want

1906
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Speaker 1: your wide receivers to look like Champ Champ Flemmicks at

1907
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Speaker 1: at Oregon State, who's what five six yeah? Yeah, five

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Speaker 1: five five? You don't want your receiver there. However, taking

1909
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Speaker 1: a five tin wide receiver that's not a bad move.

1910
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Speaker 1: I mean, if he's a ball, I mean that's I'm

1911
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Speaker 1: unras st st. Brown. Yes, any school in the Pac

1912
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Speaker 1: twelve would take him, but Arizona State at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, might might add Nay, he didn't fit into

1914
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Speaker 1: our box. So you think they should be more bothered

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Speaker 1: by the fact that if you take the top ten

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Speaker 1: ranked players in Arizona, they are committed to Oregon, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Minnesota, cal Oregon, Utah, and then undecided. Correct,

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Speaker 1: that means that top number land. That means you have

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Speaker 1: top tier town. Could as you get some of these kids,

1920
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Speaker 1: and what could they do to get some of these

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Speaker 1: kids recruit him? I mean like with the same I mean,

1922
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Speaker 1: with with the same fervor that they that they tweet

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Speaker 1: out Callie flock with I'm sorry, Kelly whatever, whatever Arizona

1924
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Speaker 1: State says about Kelly Um with the same fervor and

1925
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Speaker 1: intensity that they want to own the West owned califern California.

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Speaker 1: They need to be trying to own Arizona. I think

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Speaker 1: that that's a simple, simple solution, because the state is

1928
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Speaker 1: proving that they're putting out blue chip talent year in

1929
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Speaker 1: a year out the the the fact that you weren't

1930
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Speaker 1: even in the mix for Killy ring Up last year

1931
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Speaker 1: went to Georgia. You weren't even in the mix for

1932
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Speaker 1: thy Thompson you weren't in the mix for a lot

1933
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Speaker 1: of these other top tier kids. That's a problem, But

1934
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Speaker 1: you want to be in the top ten for you know,

1935
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Speaker 1: a cornerback out of out of New Jersey. How about you?

1936
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Speaker 1: How about you get the cornerback in your own backyard?

1937
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Speaker 1: What if the kid in New Jersey? Six three? Though?

1938
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Speaker 1: Come on now, who cares? Thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 1: to the pack twelve apostles. We appreciate your time, we

1940
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Speaker 1: appreach ate your energy. Thank you guys so much for listening.

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1942
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1943
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1944
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Speaker 1: hit us up at I'm mad at Unafraid show dot

1945
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Speaker 1: com and hopefully we can get Ralph to watch Outcry

1946
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Speaker 1: this week so we can talk about it. I will,

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Speaker 1: I'll watch it right now. Perfect, Peace out