Speaker 1: Santiago is the Stadio Nacional. It's normally a cauldron of sound,
Speaker 1: a NonStop, throbbing sea of red as Chileans cheer on
Speaker 1: their national team La Roja. When the Chilean national team
Speaker 1: is playing. I mean, it could be a World Cup match,
Speaker 1: it could be a Cope America match, it could be
Speaker 1: a friendly, an exhibition, and it is like a national holiday,
Speaker 1: a World Cup qualifying match in a soccer mad country
Speaker 1: like Chile. But even the most festive holidays to shame, wild, emotional,
Speaker 1: full of anxious anticipation. So you would have expected a
Speaker 1: Studio Nacional to be erupting this November day in at
Speaker 1: stake for Chile a final spot in the upcoming FIFA
Speaker 1: World Cup. But the stadium was practically empty. It's wooden benches, barren.
Speaker 1: The utter absence of fans of voices was a testament
Speaker 1: to the absurdity of the situation that was unfolding. Samuel
Speaker 1: Galvez remembers watching the game at home on a black
Speaker 1: and white TV that was unbelievable. Was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the stadium full of people, but nothing like that happened,
Speaker 1: Nothing like that happened. Oh my goodness, Dressed in their
Speaker 1: traditional red tops and royal blue shorts, the eleven members
Speaker 1: of Laroja were ready to go. They lined up at
Speaker 1: the center of the field. The Chilean national anthem blared
Speaker 1: over the speaker system. The players seemed relaxed, confidently waving
Speaker 1: to the few thousand supporters that had turned out. It
Speaker 1: was a perfect South American summer day for soccer. The
Speaker 1: only thing missing the other team, the eleven players from
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. We're nowhere to be seen. Now. You
Speaker 1: might think you need an opposing team to play a
Speaker 1: World Cup qualifying match FIFA in ninety three, It turns
Speaker 1: out did not so. In the referee blew his whistle.
Speaker 1: The Chilean team made nine passes. None were particularly crisp
Speaker 1: or under control. The Chilean squad looked like a group
Speaker 1: of friends at a park. If you watch the video,
Speaker 1: you can almost see them giggling at the bizarre kabuki
Speaker 1: theater they were acting out as they casually worked the
Speaker 1: ball across midfield and deep into their opponent's territory. The
Speaker 1: Chilean captain, Francisco Valdez, ever so calmly kicks the ball
Speaker 1: into the unguarded net Just thirty seconds after the opening kickoff,
Speaker 1: the referee blew his whistle and called the match. The
Speaker 1: game was over. The scoreboard made it official. Chile one
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union nil for the first time in nearly
Speaker 1: a decade. La Roja was heading back to the World Cup. Yea,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that since. You know, a
Speaker 1: team have to score a goal without the opponents on
Speaker 1: the pitch, and that's how it ended. And this, you know,
Speaker 1: weirdest forfeit ever. Chilean American John Gonzalez says the absurdity
Speaker 1: of the match is etched in his mind when we
Speaker 1: talk about the situation with the Soviet Union. That was
Speaker 1: a political event, that was something that was beyond the sport.
Speaker 1: Chile's military dictator, General Augusto Pinochet was no doubt celebrating
Speaker 1: his brutal regime had dodged the bullet all thanks to
Speaker 1: the lords of soccer. To understand what led to this
Speaker 1: empty net goal, this force of a World Cup qualifying match,
Speaker 1: and why FIFA pimped out one of its games to
Speaker 1: prop up a violent authoritarian regime, you have to go
Speaker 1: back a few years before sports and global politics met
Speaker 1: on the pitch in Santiago. I'm Connor Powell. This is
Speaker 1: episode seven, Seeing No Evil. On this faithful September morning,
Speaker 1: the buses in Santiago were more crowded than usual. The
Speaker 1: passengers were in a foul mood, nudging and pushing each
Speaker 1: other for a little extra space. Some even hitched the
Speaker 1: ride on the outside, standing on the buses bumper comfort
Speaker 1: at the expense of safety. A nationwide strike had been
Speaker 1: called in the summer of three by truckers, taxi drivers,
Speaker 1: and middle class shopkeepers. The transportation system was paralyzed, the
Speaker 1: economy was a wreck. Chileans were fed up and frustrated.
Speaker 1: The country was broke. No food, no mail, no nothing.
Speaker 1: That's Samuel Galvez, an American Spanish language radio host who
Speaker 1: grew up in Chile as a teenager. He remembers his
Speaker 1: homeland as a stable, middle class country, and yes, they
Speaker 1: were passionate about soccer. Chili had its problems, of course.
Speaker 1: Outside the capital Santiago, the country was poor and what
Speaker 1: wealth there was was distributed unevenly. But it wasn't an
Speaker 1: economic basket case or political tinder box either, but it
Speaker 1: had become one by v three with a little outside help.
Speaker 1: The strike causing The traffic on this particular September morning
Speaker 1: was aimed squarely the Socialist government of President Salvador Allende.
Speaker 1: The Doctor Agende was a very nice politician, but west
Speaker 1: nice when he was in the opposition. When he took
Speaker 1: the power, that was a mess, absolutely a mess. Allende
Speaker 1: had been elected three years early on a promise to
Speaker 1: redistribute wealth more fairly. The Soviet Union had sensed a
Speaker 1: new potential ally in the Americas, they made overtures, and
Speaker 1: almost overnight Moscow and Washington opened a new fronts in
Speaker 1: their Cold War. But Allende's agenda was struggling. You cannot
Speaker 1: buy uh, cigarettes, bread, moder anything except if you have
Speaker 1: the ration card. That's that was very difficult. To tackle inequality,
Speaker 1: Allende created new food and health programs for the poor,
Speaker 1: similar to the ones launched by his good friend Fidel
Speaker 1: Castro in Cuba. Allende expanded a plan to redistribute land
Speaker 1: to rural families and a nationalized key industries like copper
Speaker 1: mining and banking. These sectors had long been dominated by
Speaker 1: American and European companies, and these masters of industry seethed
Speaker 1: at Allende's audacity. They warned that the Marxists would soon
Speaker 1: control not just Chile but all of South America. Allende
Speaker 1: is really screwing us. Now, that's US President Richard Nixon.
Speaker 1: He and his Secretary of State Henry Kissinger saw pretty
Speaker 1: much everything that was an American style capitalism as a
Speaker 1: warning sign of creeping communism. The Soviets, they feared, were
Speaker 1: always lurking around the corner. If Allende should win the
Speaker 1: election in Chile and then you have Castro in Cuba,
Speaker 1: what you will in effect have in Latin America is
Speaker 1: a red sandwich, and eventually it'll all be read. Kissinger
Speaker 1: urged Nixon to move against Allende. I would go to
Speaker 1: a confrontation. According to historian Brenda Elsie, Nixon took the
Speaker 1: advice the United States government, particularly Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon,
Speaker 1: immediately start to plan a coup attempt. The CIA began
Speaker 1: funneling millions of dollars to Chilean opposition groups, encouraging strikes
Speaker 1: to destabilize the country. Nixon vowed to make the Chilean economy,
Speaker 1: in his own words, scream by the morning of September eleven,
Speaker 1: seventy three. That faithful September morning, most of Chile was
Speaker 1: in a foul mood, and like the passengers crammed into
Speaker 1: those overflowing buses, their elbows were growing sharp. And that's
Speaker 1: when had happened. And then on September eleventh, nine three,
Speaker 1: there's a bombardment of the presidential Palace. La Moneda Air
Speaker 1: Force planes flew low over the presidential Palace and dropped
Speaker 1: their bombs with deadly accuracy. In the early hours of
Speaker 1: September eleven, the Chilean military had seized control of the
Speaker 1: TV and radio stations throughout the country. The general's demanded
Speaker 1: Allende resign. The socialist president's economic policies had been shredded,
Speaker 1: in part by a not so covert Cia campaign, but
Speaker 1: even after the bombs dropped, he refused to hand over
Speaker 1: power as tanks and soldiers supporting the military coup took
Speaker 1: control of the streets of Santiago. I end A made
Speaker 1: one last radio address, long long lived, the people, long
Speaker 1: moved the workers. On my last words, Salvadora Yende talks
Speaker 1: about the tragedy of democracy being destroyed, that he still
Speaker 1: has faith in workers in the working class. By four pm,
Speaker 1: the streets of Santiago were quiet. Soldiers controlled all the
Speaker 1: key spots the mill. Harry was now in charge Presidential palace.
Speaker 1: Bomb that day continued to burn. The pungent smell of
Speaker 1: the day's violence, burnt carbon and metallic sulfur. You know
Speaker 1: what if you've smelled it lingered over the city. Then
Speaker 1: came the news and SALVADORI and dies. A witness claims
Speaker 1: he took his own life with an a K forty
Speaker 1: seven given to him by Fidel Castro, but no one
Speaker 1: really knows. As quick and violent as the coup had been,
Speaker 1: its brutality was nothing compared to what was about to happen.
Speaker 1: In the days following the coup, soldiers rounded up thousands
Speaker 1: of Chileans, workers, students, politicians, and artists who were arrested
Speaker 1: and imprisoned. In the fall of it was dangerous to
Speaker 1: be a supporter of Salvador, and military death squads roamed
Speaker 1: the country. Chileans were arrested in mass imprisoned, killed in Santiago.
Speaker 1: Bodies floated in the currents of the Mapocho River each morning,
Speaker 1: victims of killings. The night before, the US race to
Speaker 1: recognize the new ruling military junta led by General Augusto Pinochet,
Speaker 1: Samuel Galvez remembers the confusion and horror each day brought,
Speaker 1: and the desperation people felt trying to stay alive. Suspicion
Speaker 1: was everywhere. Chileans were forced to whisper to each other,
Speaker 1: hoping to clean any shred of information about a missing
Speaker 1: neighbor or family member. Hey, do you know that guy
Speaker 1: who used to leave at that corner? The Secret Service
Speaker 1: came and took it, and we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's the issue. The main issue among the many who
Speaker 1: were arrested in the days after September eleven was the
Speaker 1: famous Chilean folk singer Victor Horror. His hands were smashed,
Speaker 1: his interrogators mocked him. They demanded he played the guitar
Speaker 1: with his mangled fingers. Horra defiant until the end, instead
Speaker 1: sang a Chilean protest song at the top of his
Speaker 1: longest Horror's body, riddled with bullet wounds, was dumped and
Speaker 1: displayed outside of sports arena stadiums throughout the country, overflowed
Speaker 1: with prisoners, their lights always on, the screams piercing the
Speaker 1: US back regime. They didn't even try to hide what
Speaker 1: was happening, The military government in Chile said today it
Speaker 1: executed six so called extremists over the weekend and promised
Speaker 1: the same fate for others, and thousands of people out
Speaker 1: of favor with the new regime are being held prisoner
Speaker 1: in the stadium. That stadium, a Stadio Nacionale, home to Laroja,
Speaker 1: was packed with so called subversives. There, the military junta
Speaker 1: tortured and killed anyone deemed to be an enemy of
Speaker 1: the state. Even Chile's famous soccer players went into hiding,
Speaker 1: afraid their long hair and mustaches would brand them as radicals.
Speaker 1: Leonardo Valley's, one of Laroja's captains, spent days trying to
Speaker 1: track down an uncle who had been taken to the stadium,
Speaker 1: while the team's doctor, Alfonso Reis, was brutally tortured for
Speaker 1: his Communist beliefs. Hugo Lepe, a retired player and leader
Speaker 1: of an important soccer union, disappeared. Other players, like Carlos Kazili,
Speaker 1: would spend months trying to free family members. Foreigners were
Speaker 1: also rounded up. Among the thousands taken to the stadium,
Speaker 1: two british Men, Richard Barber and Adrian Jansen. Brutality. You
Speaker 1: could see people kneeling. Long row of people kneeling with
Speaker 1: the legs widespread, with their hands hype out their heads.
Speaker 1: One of these men or three of these men were collapsing.
Speaker 1: As they collapsed, they were beaten or kicked or trampled
Speaker 1: onto to get them up again. In the west, example
Speaker 1: I saw was about eight men coming in one by
Speaker 1: one to urinate, and after that they were gunned by
Speaker 1: it very heavily, into the back, into the shoulders and
Speaker 1: into the stomach and ribs by carabineros. We saw one
Speaker 1: of these men next day in the cell. They seemed
Speaker 1: to have been very heavily worked over. Barbara and Jansen
Speaker 1: were released shortly after the queue, traumatized but alive after
Speaker 1: more than a century. Chilean democracy was far less fortunate
Speaker 1: with American help, Marxism had been defeated there, but so
Speaker 1: had democracy In Chile. Democracy had become a casualty of
Speaker 1: the Cold War between the Eagle and the Bear. As
Speaker 1: the world watched the violence and a once vibrant democracy crumbled,
Speaker 1: Chile's national soccer team, Laroja, was preparing for one of
Speaker 1: its most important matches in decades. In a twist of fate,
Speaker 1: Laroja was set to play the Soviet Union No. Longer
Speaker 1: a friend and now a political foe. Their match with
Speaker 1: the side the final spot in the FIFA World Cup,
Speaker 1: But after seeing the carnage across Chile, the Sylviets threatened
Speaker 1: to boycott the game, demanding FIFA move the match away
Speaker 1: from the stadium that was still dripping with blood. Why
Speaker 1: didn't FIFA listen? The answer to that question is a
Speaker 1: stain on the organization, as the lords of soccer cast
Speaker 1: their lot with Pinochet, giving the dictator the one thing
Speaker 1: he wanted most of all. The Nationalist Stadium is a
Speaker 1: horrific place to be. The prisoners. You can see some
Speaker 1: of them on the bleachers, blood, urine, and God only
Speaker 1: knows what else, staying the walls and floors, moaning, crying.
Speaker 1: The crackling sound of electricity echoed down the long corridors
Speaker 1: until it was drowned out by the screams ere a
Speaker 1: piercing the sounds someone makes when they're hit again and
Speaker 1: again and again with fifteen thousand volts from a cattle prod.
Speaker 1: The lights and the makeshift prison cells were always on,
Speaker 1: so too were the lights in the stadium. With their
Speaker 1: hands tied behind their backs, the prisoners sat there day
Speaker 1: and night, listening to the sounds of torture from the
Speaker 1: benches they once sat in to cheer on Chile's national
Speaker 1: soccer team. The prisoners being held in a Stadio Nacionale
Speaker 1: were accustomed to seeing soldiers in their crisp green uniforms
Speaker 1: with a little black patch on their left chest declaring
Speaker 1: Army of Chile and the rifles the prisoners knew all
Speaker 1: too well with the strike from the butt of a rifle.
Speaker 1: Felt like they were also familiar with the journalists who
Speaker 1: were regularly paraded through the makeshift prison. But who were
Speaker 1: these men? What were they doing inspecting the grass pitch.
Speaker 1: A few prisoners tried to call out from underneath the bleachers, udonos, udonos.
Speaker 1: They pleaded for help. The well dressed soccer officials didn't
Speaker 1: stay long and left without making eye contact. The men
Speaker 1: were a small group of FIFA officials who had traveled
Speaker 1: to Chile to inspect the pitch at a Stadio Nacional.
Speaker 1: The fierce international debate about the final World Cup qualifying
Speaker 1: match between Chile and the Soviet Union had been raging
Speaker 1: for weeks. Here again, Brenda Elsie Soviet's refused to play
Speaker 1: in the stadium citing all of the reasons. Our comrades
Speaker 1: have just been tortured and killed in the stadium. We
Speaker 1: do not want to legitimize this government, and they refused
Speaker 1: to play it. Reports of the torture and abuse have
Speaker 1: been circulating in Western press and amongst soccer officials for weeks.
Speaker 1: Italian powerhouse inter Milan had even canceled a friendly match
Speaker 1: with Chile because of the violence. FIFA saw what was
Speaker 1: happening and went ahead anyways. Elsie was granted access to
Speaker 1: FIFA's archives for her own research. FIFA knows what's going on.
Speaker 1: They are getting dozens of letters every day from different
Speaker 1: people within football organizations, from club members, from citizens, from
Speaker 1: people that were in exile throughout Europe, throughout the world,
Speaker 1: writing to FIFA to say, please don't legitimize this government,
Speaker 1: Please don't play this match. Legitimacy is exactly what the
Speaker 1: military junta craved. Recognition from the Green Gooes in Washington
Speaker 1: and London wasn't enough. Pinochet wanted no, he needed global
Speaker 1: respect and who better than the lords of soccer, the
Speaker 1: captains of the World Cup to bless his new regime.
Speaker 1: He sends the team with a letter to go to
Speaker 1: the nineteen four World Cup to Basically, the letter's intention
Speaker 1: is to assure everyone that things are wonderful and peaceful
Speaker 1: in Chile and that they're open for business. FIFA's then president,
Speaker 1: Stanley Rouse might have believed soccer could be pure, free
Speaker 1: of world politics, a sanctuary from the Cold War, but
Speaker 1: there was no avoiding the brutality of the Pinochet regime.
Speaker 1: To play a match in Santiago in a Stadio nacional
Speaker 1: would be to ignore the violence of the coup to
Speaker 1: sanction it. The Soviets, no strangers to political violence themselves,
Speaker 1: offered FIFA a way out. They requested the game we
Speaker 1: moved to a neutral country. This surprised and irritated Rouse,
Speaker 1: FIFA around the World Cup, not its member nations, and
Speaker 1: certainly not the Communists over in Moscow. Privately, many European
Speaker 1: countries also argued the match should be moved. Rouse relented,
Speaker 1: but only a bit. In the days before the match
Speaker 1: was set to kick off, Rouse promised to send a
Speaker 1: delegation to Santiago to investigate the claims that a Stadio
Speaker 1: nacional was unfit to host a World Cup qualifier. This
Speaker 1: is the same Stanley Rouse who investigated the South African
Speaker 1: apartheid regime and concluded it wasn't racist those guys inspecting
Speaker 1: the grass pitch the FIFA officials prisoners called out to
Speaker 1: these were those guys. Here's British soccer writers to Horsefield
Speaker 1: and historian Brenda Elsie to explain with those officials, Saul
Speaker 1: and ignored. The delegation are actually made to wait two
Speaker 1: days by the Chilean all thorities while they well, while
Speaker 1: they clear out the stadium for the FIFA visit. They
Speaker 1: clear out the stadium literally, have to pose the blood
Speaker 1: off of the walls and other human excrement and everything else.
Speaker 1: With most of the prisoners relocated to another torture site.
Speaker 1: The few that remain were held at gunpoint and after
Speaker 1: crying out, ordered to stay quiet. The FIFA visit takes
Speaker 1: place while there's dissidents down in the bowels of the
Speaker 1: changing rooms, right of the bowels of the stadium. FIFA
Speaker 1: look at the pitch, they look at the stands and
Speaker 1: not as much as they do, and they see nothing.
Speaker 1: There's political prisoners who are about probably gonna lose their lives,
Speaker 1: probably not a hundred yards away, but it's because it's
Speaker 1: not looked for or because they don't want to look
Speaker 1: for it. It's not seen, it's not communicated by FIFA's
Speaker 1: inspection lasted less than twenty minutes. Somehow they didn't notice
Speaker 1: what was happening, or they didn't care, and they declared
Speaker 1: the Stadio Nacional fit for competition. So FIFA since a
Speaker 1: communicate back to Stanley Rouse, everything's okay, the game should
Speaker 1: go ahead. It lands at the feet of a particular
Speaker 1: delegate named Renee Court. His quotation at that time was,
Speaker 1: when asked about Chile, was quote, we are not concerned
Speaker 1: with politics or what regimes are ruling a country. End
Speaker 1: of quote. Rouse issued an ultimatum to the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: play or forfeit. How could they defy him? Nobody walks
Speaker 1: away from a spot in the World Cup, And as
Speaker 1: is so often the case in such matters, FIFA claimed
Speaker 1: to be above politics, not to be taken sides, But
Speaker 1: in the issuing of that ultimatum, it took the side
Speaker 1: of a ruthless dictator. Even they still refuse to accept
Speaker 1: the politics has a part to play, and they mandate
Speaker 1: that the game goes ahead. But the Soviet Union don't
Speaker 1: travel Moscow said, no, I know, you don't want to
Speaker 1: give too many, perhaps to the Soviet Union in this
Speaker 1: period when it is itself committing crimes and human rights abuses.
Speaker 1: But this decision is a good one, it's the right one,
Speaker 1: and they withdraw. But FIFA to create, a game must
Speaker 1: be played, a goal must be scored, as if the
Speaker 1: history books could somehow be deceived, and the torture chambers
Speaker 1: just a race. Once the game goes ahead and there's
Speaker 1: a scoreline. Technically it's a footnote in the World Cup
Speaker 1: qualifying campaign. It's not a result that needs explaining with
Speaker 1: an asterix. It's a It's a football result, and that's
Speaker 1: how FIFA wanted their game to be, and the qualifying
Speaker 1: nature of the World Cup to be. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, FIFA, by refusing to take sides, had
Speaker 1: given Pinochet its blessing and that's all he really ever wanted.
Speaker 1: Section eight. At a Stadio Nacional, the warped wooden benches
Speaker 1: stand out like a battered ship and a sea of
Speaker 1: red modern seats. A rusted out metal fence surrounds them.
Speaker 1: It almost looks like it could fall at any minute.
Speaker 1: At first glance, Section eight seems so out of place.
Speaker 1: Did they run out of money while they were doing construction.
Speaker 1: Did they forget to finish the job. But it isn't
Speaker 1: a mistake. They sat in those benches, the sons, the daughters,
Speaker 1: the brothers, the sisters, mothers and fathers who were held prisoner,
Speaker 1: tortured and murdered in a Stadio National in the fall
Speaker 1: of Chileans have never forgotten what took place there, and
Speaker 1: they've never forgotten the game FIFA made them play. It's
Speaker 1: something that really not just that match, but that era
Speaker 1: is kind of left out a conversation many of times.
Speaker 1: Here again, journalist John Gonzalez. There's such a passion of
Speaker 1: soccer in my family, but I can be honest, I've
Speaker 1: never heard anyone discussed that match. It's hurtful, and I
Speaker 1: really anytime I talked to a Chilean about it, whether
Speaker 1: it be a family member or a friend, you can
Speaker 1: tell that it's definitely something. I don't know if embarrassment
Speaker 1: is the right word, but I guess shame. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of shame around that incident today. No matter how exciting,
Speaker 1: no matter how amped up a crowd is for a game,
Speaker 1: that hunting monument, those warped wooden benches behind the North
Speaker 1: Goal are there always there, the ghosts that never leave
Speaker 1: Chilean's don't have to speak of the horrors to remember them.
Speaker 1: That is really a stain, it's a black eye. And
Speaker 1: I think it's because that incident was beyond soccer. And
Speaker 1: while FIFA would like the world to forget its involvement,
Speaker 1: its decision, it's ultimatum. Samuel Galvez says, the pain can't
Speaker 1: be erased. What can I say it try to forget
Speaker 1: the circumstances. It's like somebody kill your mother and say, uh,
Speaker 1: forget it. When it comes to FIFA's pardon this. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's fair to pin this all on Stanley Rouse, a
Speaker 1: British colonialists who saw the world through the eyes of
Speaker 1: white Victorian privilege. But five years later, FIFA faced a
Speaker 1: similar dilemma, another moral test of what it means to
Speaker 1: promote the beautiful game to an eager world, and that
Speaker 1: decision made in Argentina wasn't made by Rouse. FIFA I
Speaker 1: had a chance to do better and it absolutely failed.
Speaker 1: That's coming up next on the Lords of Soccer. The
Speaker 1: Lords of Soccer Al FIFA stole the Beautiful Game is
Speaker 1: an Inside Voices media production in conjunction with I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: The series was written and executive produced by Gary Scott
Speaker 1: and me Connor Powell. Special thanks to gizli Rossi for
Speaker 1: helping me with the trickiest of the Brazilian names. If
Speaker 1: I screwed up, It's on me, not her Logan he
Speaker 1: Tell and Katie mcmurrn provided the sound design with assistance
Speaker 1: from j. C. Swaddick and Jake Blue Note. Alec Cowen
Speaker 1: is our associate producer and Jeffrey Katz was our story editor.
Speaker 1: Our fact checker is Alexa O'Brien and thanks to Miles Gray,
Speaker 1: who produced the series for I Heart Radio. If you
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